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- 0:00Hello there. It's time for most things
- 0:02Kenobi. Shouldn't it be all things
- 0:05Kenobi. Hmm.
- 0:20Hi everyone, welcome to another episode of most things Kenobi.
- 0:22A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
- 0:26I'm your host Lauren and I'm your host Leanne, and this week,
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- 0:38little tinny but that's okay because we're together.
- 0:41We are together. The space twins have been
- 0:43together for an extended period. It's been wonderful.
- 0:46It's been so nice and like getting to record in person as a
- 0:49rare tree. We've only gotten to do it.
- 0:50I think once before yeah but now we're not going out a couple
- 0:54episodes so you'll hear this again?
- 0:55Yes. No doubt but This week's
- 1:00episode. It is Execute Order. 66, I hate
- 1:05that. I mean, I'll try not to take it
- 1:10personally. No, no.
- 1:15I mean, This since it's our 66th episode, it seemed appropriate.
- 1:22Yes to talk about the great Jedi Purge and the source of all of
- 1:27our pain here. We're seeing more and more like
- 1:32personal private examples of what people experienced during
- 1:36Order 66, which with each new piece of Star Wars material that
- 1:40comes out. I mean, even little grow goo.
- 1:42Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:45It's always painful and Bingo example has been like very hard
- 1:49to watch. Yes.
- 1:52But we are getting glimpses. They're interesting glimpses.
- 1:56Hmm, they're frightening and and downright awful.
- 1:59Yeah. Luckily they're not showing too
- 2:02much. Although there's seems to be One
- 2:06or two in the community of the Star Wars fandom that really
- 2:10want to see more of Order 66. And I think we've seen enough, I
- 2:16think touch-and-go like little glimpses are fine, but we all
- 2:19know what happens. We don't need it in detail.
- 2:22I mean, it's even if you've seen Revenge of the Sith, if you
- 2:27watch the Clone Wars and you watch Revenge of the Sith, it is
- 2:32awful. It's so especially hello khun
- 2:35for me. Bad everyone.
- 2:37Everyone felt that one. That was so fucking sad,
- 2:40especially because we know how like cleaner wolf.
- 2:44Is it just got so fucking awful and like, we know Cody's the
- 2:50one. Yeah, that might quite a, quite
- 2:53possibly hurt. The most, I mean, we've seen
- 2:56what happened like, Rex as it was happening.
- 2:59My gosh. Yes.
- 3:01So what are 66 has betrayal at its finest and Bubbly one of the
- 3:07greatest crafted. What would it manipulation plan
- 3:12of Destruction Palpatine? Really put all of his energy
- 3:16into making this happen? And it was so well done.
- 3:20I'm saying this from a crafted story and an evil plot.
- 3:25Yeah. Sense here.
- 3:28It was so well done that it worked, right?
- 3:32Like how what politician ever has made anything that was
- 3:37successful on such a large scale, right?
- 3:40Under the Jedis noses, they were like hiding in plain sight
- 3:43almost. This was the plan all along well
- 3:47and that's what makes that episode about fives.
- 3:51So horrible, because he kind of starts to discover and realize
- 3:56something isn't right. Go through all of this testing
- 3:59and he goes on the run and he's being hunted down and nothing
- 4:03changes. No, they almost like it was
- 4:07almost falsely. I'll start it makes him feel
- 4:10insane. Yes.
- 4:11Like being gas-lit basically. Totally.
- 4:13Yeah. And from a clones point of view,
- 4:17we see it especially in season seven of the Clone Wars, which
- 4:21was a beautiful tale of the tragedy of what happens to the
- 4:26clones. Think about it.
- 4:27Yeah. It happened to them.
- 4:30They did not choose the ones that did choose like racks
- 4:34struggled to do so. Mmm-hmm, they were built with a
- 4:39command. It's terrible to think about.
- 4:42It's so interesting to though, because from the very beginning,
- 4:45even the first episode of Clone Wars, It's All About the Clones
- 4:50are fighting for people to understand that, they're
- 4:52individuals and that they have free thinking and they have they
- 4:55have the ability to make their own decisions.
- 4:57We're not droids. They have to say it over and
- 5:00over and then in the end you flip a switch and they have no
- 5:03free will anymore. Yeah.
- 5:05It's it's against every like they have no control over it.
- 5:09So it's from a storytelling point of view.
- 5:12It's really interesting, really smart.
- 5:14But like from an invested audience member, it's really
- 5:18fucking devastating. Devastating is the word.
- 5:20Yeah. And, and of course, with bad
- 5:24batch. We learn a lot more.
- 5:26Yeah. Yeah.
- 5:27I find it interesting that there was so much discourse on kamino
- 5:33Yeah, like after they had to organize yeah it was cool to see
- 5:37the kind of chaos and the Empire came right in likeness ready
- 5:41swooped right in. I loved seeing the very
- 5:46beginning of bad batch. It took my breath away at the
- 5:50stuff with deeper the lava. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:54Oh, it's so off and it's cool though because we all know
- 5:57Canaan and now to see how traumatic that was, what his
- 6:01actual experience was. And then to, to have Hunter,
- 6:06yes, there was a really interesting thing they said
- 6:09about it at Celebration where they're saying Hunter couldn't
- 6:13help cane and he was trying to any failed him.
- 6:15So that's why he couldn't fail a mega like it was really
- 6:18important for him to read like even subconsciously redeem
- 6:21himself by rescuing and saving a mega because he couldn't save
- 6:25Kanan. Well, you could argue that that
- 6:29kanan's path is what built him into.
- 6:33What he the the individual, he became the Jedi he became and he
- 6:39was able to then instruct azra and you know, continue on post
- 6:43Order 66 but What caught me is deepest sense, mmm, and we see
- 6:50it with a less correct to. There's a, there's a second of
- 6:54detection in these Jedi where something is not?
- 6:58Right. Hmm.
- 6:59And then it's too late before they can deep.
- 7:03At least was able to put up a fight as long as she could to
- 7:06save Canaan, which is just heartbreaking.
- 7:09Really cool to see. I love that pose where she gets
- 7:11her. Yeah, her bicep like that.
- 7:14It's such a, she's such Amazing character and she like gets no
- 7:18exposure. Representation, pretty much at
- 7:20all. This is the first time we even
- 7:21like here. I'm sure she she's there in the
- 7:24prequels. She doesn't really get a scene
- 7:27you know, where you hear her talk and understand her
- 7:29relationship with cannon at all. So, it's really cool, but that
- 7:32was really cool. What, according I've done some
- 7:35reading because I wanted to know how many Jedi actually survived
- 7:40and the, the number varies between canonically and of
- 7:44course non-canonical Quickly. So if you take into into
- 7:47consideration, all of the comics, this number gets bigger,
- 7:51mhm, and legends and whatever. Hmm, but cannot actually less
- 7:56than 20 known Jedi and that's not including the ones that
- 8:01escaped, and then turned to the dark side or became part of
- 8:04Palpatine's plants. So, we're talking 20 individuals
- 8:07who stayed light, who are able to escape.
- 8:10That's not a lot. No.
- 8:12And I've always wondered like how many Jedi existed.
- 8:15That time like at the time of The Purge.
- 8:17Right? So you know that's like A drop
- 8:20in the bucket. Totally and It's really awful
- 8:28because we saw in the Kenobi show.
- 8:34Did we not see one or two down in that prison the suspended
- 8:40Jedi in the prison and child and you know and then we of course
- 8:45we know what happened? Luma luminara Luma, it's Uma
- 8:51Numa Luma. I don't know, luminara escapes,
- 8:56but then gets captured. And actually her death is used
- 8:59to lure additional Jedi in to capture and They're cold in like
- 9:05a comic somewhere or something because I'm that story seems
- 9:08like would be very dark. That was one of the creepiest
- 9:11moments in Rebels that I remember.
- 9:15It says here, unduly survived the initial wave after many
- 9:20believed her dad. However, the Empire caught her
- 9:22shortly after sentencing, her to the Spire prison on stage and
- 9:26Prime. She was later executed in the
- 9:28Empire, used her remains to lure other surviving Jedi, that's
- 9:31fucked up. That's of all the Jedi who
- 9:34survived the initial wave of Order. 66 and Dooley is the only
- 9:38one who did not survive long term, Wow, and did not turn to
- 9:42the dark side. So she's not one, she stayed
- 9:44light but was executed and then used, we know what happened to
- 9:47beerus, no, because she was arrested.
- 9:54We don't even know if she was in prison right before.
- 9:58The the person is did they release all of the prisoners?
- 10:02Because they essentially took over the temple.
- 10:04She seems like the kind of person that Palpatine would
- 10:07eventually go after. Well, the, the fan favorite
- 10:10theme is that she becomes one of the inquisitors or this one of
- 10:13the sisters there. Yeah, but there's never any
- 10:16confirmed, which is funny because what we've talked about
- 10:19with the inquisitors is how like disorganized, and they seem and
- 10:23how unprofessional they seem It's like what happens to what
- 10:28you those brain when you break it, make them turn to the dark
- 10:30side. They become like bickering,
- 10:33little shit. Well it said it's a Vie for
- 10:36power because it's all they've got right?
- 10:38It's really true and really it's survival of the fittest.
- 10:42They know that if they fail what's waiting for them.
- 10:46Well, and that's the way of the Sith, right?
- 10:48We're constantly trying to overtake your master crabs, in a
- 10:51bucket. Oh my God, it's so accurate.
- 10:56Crap, In a bucket. Disgusting and true.
- 10:59Let's terrible. They're all trying to get.
- 11:02Yeah. The top of the bucket by using
- 11:03each other. It really is visually, very,
- 11:06it's a word picture you've painted.
- 11:08We are a podcast. That's funny Order 66.
- 11:15I was also curious, you know, I come with facts or at least
- 11:18series. What does the 66 mean?
- 11:22And there's several theories because, you know, George Lucas,
- 11:25it's never an accident. but it's always a dilemma verse and The
- 11:30one that seems to be the most logical is pulled from World War
- 11:34Two, when Roosevelt ordered 9066, which was terrible and we
- 11:42won't get into it here, but it was World War Two inspired.
- 11:46And so they think that perhaps Order 66 was just the shortened
- 11:49version because it essentially led to the same thing, which is
- 11:52purging of a group of people or at least internment.
- 11:56Yeah. Purging.
- 11:57Yeah, but then, there is equal 0. very um, Then there's the 66,
- 12:04which is 666. 666, this is a tongue twister.
- 12:11It's a papa, which is the mark of the beast.
- 12:14If we want to go religious, which is the devil, right?
- 12:17So you could say it was pure evil, but I kind of like the
- 12:21third Theory, which is the sixth letter in the Latin, alphabet is
- 12:25f. So put two F's together, FF is
- 12:28friendly fire, mmm. So again, In plain sight
- 12:33Palpatine. Always the Puppet Master.
- 12:37Yeah, I mean in to see these characters that we've grown to
- 12:41love turn on the other characters that we've grown to
- 12:44love. Yeah, I mean, we saw it in, we
- 12:47talked about this many times in the umbara arc, where the Clones
- 12:52are shooting each other. I'm sorry.
- 12:54Fuck, pong, Krell just throw that in there.
- 13:00Carry on Friendly Fire is always particularly horrific.
- 13:04Yes. And so to have it be on a large
- 13:08scale. These you know, the Jedi are on
- 13:10a pedestal, everyone's always thinking that they're kind of
- 13:12invincible. So whenever you see them get
- 13:14overrun or turned on its really kind of shocking.
- 13:20Honestly. Yeah and very depressing.
- 13:24Did I get the right Arc? The on Barra?
- 13:26Is that pong Krell? Oh yeah.
- 13:27Mmm, yep. Okay, just making sure I'm not
- 13:31throwing out just Hannity's for no reason.
- 13:37And I don't disagree, but well, I don't need a group of what, I
- 13:40just making sure because I'm like, oh, is there another?
- 13:45No, that's correct. But it's interesting how it all
- 13:49kind of fucking starts. We have the fives Discovery.
- 13:53Mmm. So he kind of starts with
- 13:56Obi-Wan killing Grievous because like, yeah, like shit, they're
- 14:00in a position X Out, time's up, time to go, you know, he
- 14:05initiates it and it's, it's actually quite good, how it's
- 14:08delivered. With the execute.
- 14:12Oh yeah. Six just I mean, it's it's so
- 14:18evil is so it like over the top. Yeah mr.
- 14:22Bernier Burns moment. It's really awful.
- 14:28I hate it. But it's a brilliant plan.
- 14:31I will give it that. I will appreciate it for the
- 14:35story that unfolds Beyond it because Hoo boy.
- 14:40Hmm. You know yeah, I mean well they
- 14:43start with killing is it typically and tipler the twin
- 14:48sisters who are Jedi with yes, green and the pink.
- 14:51You make one's pink ones, Green Room at least one of them.
- 14:53If not both of them are voiced by Anna, Graves we love you,
- 14:57Anna. Shout out but they one of them
- 15:02at least gets killed by a clone and that's where in the Clone
- 15:08Wars. To me is like this turning point
- 15:10where we know things will never be cheerful again and they cover
- 15:15it up by saying she got she got killed by a virus or the Clone
- 15:18did something with. Yeah.
- 15:20There's a couple of covers it out.
- 15:21Yeah. Hmm.
- 15:23Hmm. Very depressing.
- 15:25I don't like it. It's sus.
- 15:30You could say, palps has been sus since day one.
- 15:34I mean, honestly you ever see that picture.
- 15:37At qui-gon's funeral when it's taken down the row and it's
- 15:41Palpatine and Anakin's on the other end and in between them is
- 15:46Obi-Wan Padme, right? And it's like everyone that he
- 15:49has to get through to get to Anakin.
- 15:51Yes. And I love it and you too.
- 15:54I wanted that was intentional or not.
- 15:55It's great, seems so intentional but you know, I don't know.
- 16:01Can we talk about it from Anakin's point of view because
- 16:03this pains me, mmm. How do we get here?
- 16:09We know what got to him, hmm but holy shit.
- 16:15It still seems really extreme like whether you disagree with a
- 16:19war, a movement choices made, you know, when whether it's
- 16:24Ahsoka you know what the Yeah Jedi did with Ahsoka or didn't
- 16:29do and the constant, you know, are we fighting a war for the
- 16:34right reasons and Obi-Wan's influence of like whatever
- 16:38Anakin told. Self, you know, and you know,
- 16:42Anakin's predisposed issues, you know, they were, they were
- 16:49there, does it still equal marching with your troops?
- 16:55He didn't have an inhibitor chip.
- 16:57Yeah, he fucking chose it. He listened to an order and did
- 17:01it. So on the same scale, All good.
- 17:05Soldiers, follow orders. Yeah, he followed his first
- 17:08order from Palpatine without even blinking an eye.
- 17:10It seemed well in the where he was promised that it would lead
- 17:14to. Yes.
- 17:14I mean, even so even so it's very extreme to go in and
- 17:20butcher all of your friends. The people you grew up with
- 17:24everyone in your wake, including children who were powerless to
- 17:28defend themselves. I mean, we spoiler.
- 17:31Spoiler alert forget OB series, yes.
- 17:35He stabs Riva as a child and leaves her for dead like looks
- 17:40right in her eyes and then still the years later.
- 17:43Does it again with no empathy? I see, I agree with you.
- 17:49Look, how do you go from this to that even with that kind of
- 17:53Promise? Yeah, that's why I liked it in
- 17:55when he goes to Mustafar and he's killing everyone and he's
- 18:00got tears just streaming down his face because he knows it's
- 18:03just Destroying parts of himself, while he's doing it but
- 18:08like, thank God. Rex wasn't with him.
- 18:11Can you imagine? Because he got split up and sent
- 18:13with Ahsoka. He didn't get pulled into being
- 18:16part of The Purge. That would have been really
- 18:19truly. I don't know if I could have
- 18:20watched that know. And like the fact that because
- 18:23he was with Ahsoka, she actually managed to save him from himself
- 18:26and remove the inhibitor chip. Where is he would have been on a
- 18:29totally different path like what happened to Cody?
- 18:32Yeah. Which is, I guess your verbal.
- 18:35We might see my guess because he is what he's in the second
- 18:38season of bad batch. I think, is the, that's, it's
- 18:42either that or tails of the Jedi, but I'm pretty sure its
- 18:44second season of bad batch code. He's supposed to show up.
- 18:46Oh God, and I'm not prepared, I'm not either.
- 18:50It's like, what are, what exactly are we going to see?
- 18:52Because some of the previews that we've seen there was one at
- 18:55Celebration, but then there's been another one that's been
- 18:58released. He's kind of like questioning it
- 19:01too. Crosshair.
- 19:05Yeah. And it's like what's gonna
- 19:09happen. I don't want to see Cody died.
- 19:12No, I'm not. I can't see that.
- 19:16It Cody's always been the mystery, right?
- 19:18The one that we never really knew.
- 19:21Yeah, and it's great because there's fanfics but mmm, I'm
- 19:25scared. Very scared.
- 19:27I am too because they had talked about using him.
- 19:30Apparently, there was like first drafts of the Kenobi series that
- 19:33we're all about. Cody going to Tatooine hmm.
- 19:37If they didn't use it, there are, they going to use it in the
- 19:40cartoon? And if they do, or don't either
- 19:43way like, this is going to be who would be very bad, because
- 19:47you never see him in any of the content, basically.
- 19:52Rogue one forward, I would say, so far, so either he doesn't
- 19:57survive or they just haven't worked out, what his plot would
- 19:59be. I'm very scared, either way.
- 20:02It's bound to be unhappy mean, which version would you rather
- 20:07have that? He's still hunting Obi-Wan down
- 20:09or that he realizes what he did? I don't know because both
- 20:14options are terrible. I kind of I I would appreciate
- 20:22from a story standpoint him possibly questioning.
- 20:26Mmm. Even though it's more painful
- 20:29for Cody. But I think from a story
- 20:31standpoint that would be more gratifying.
- 20:33Mmm, if he's just a machine then it's like damn.
- 20:36None of it meant anything. Yeah.
- 20:39Well, like, he was higher ranking the Knicks.
- 20:42He, he wasn't as What's the word?
- 20:46I don't want to say likeable because I love Kody.
- 20:49Kody is more like a straight edge.
- 20:52Yeah, yeah. Whereas reject, you work with
- 20:55Shinobi so well, like Rex works with Anakin and Ahsoka really
- 20:59well and they were just paired off perfectly so I don't know.
- 21:04Rex is more in touch with blurring the lines, a little.
- 21:09Hmm. And Cody's more rigid and
- 21:13structured and we didn't really know them when they came.
- 21:16Into play in Revenge of the Sith in and Rex didn't even exist and
- 21:21Revenge of the Sith and Cody, you only see him a few for a few
- 21:25minutes of the whole movie. It's not like we had established
- 21:28a relationship at that time. So now after Clone Wars,
- 21:32everyone's like what happened there.
- 21:35Like there's literally no talk about it.
- 21:38No evidence. Nothing in the movie, and I
- 21:41really want to know, but also, I don't want to be hurt.
- 21:44Well, That's not possible in this world of a fanbase whole
- 21:50franchise. It is like totally possible that
- 21:54we could see a Cody and I'll be one reunions and bad batch which
- 21:59I'm not sure I'm ready for that. I don't know if I'm ready for
- 22:02that either. I would really like to see that
- 22:05like, at the same time I like, I want to see the actors come
- 22:08back. Well that yes, yes, absolutely.
- 22:10Their performances won't be fucking, Tim is all in.
- 22:13So he I would See him and the scar that we have no idea about.
- 22:19Yeah, it's for us there's three things we want to know.
- 22:24In in Star Wars number 11 is Anakin whispering to the zai
- 22:27Jian. Queen number two where did
- 22:29fucking Cody get that scar? Yeah.
- 22:31Number three. Yeah.
- 22:37We're leaving that in time, for dinner.
- 22:39It's time for dinner. That was a loop alarm.
- 22:44Yeah. It's my wife.
- 22:48Okay, well, I was gonna save when when did oh Obi-Wan?
- 22:52It's a teen fuck. But those are the three
- 22:56questions. I'm dying to know, but it's
- 23:01appropriate. That Luke interrupted that one.
- 23:03All right about that. I thought it wouldn't go off.
- 23:04We're doing this in one in. One take this were in One mic
- 23:08and we're in one setting. So editing is a little tricky
- 23:11and I have to get this out within 24 hours.
- 23:13So this episode is going to be shorter than usual.
- 23:16So don't hate us. It's a joint.
- 23:17Be depa sewed. Speedrun.
- 23:19Yeah, but Order 66 is very impactful and I I as an Anakin
- 23:27fan, hate it. Yeah, it takes a lot for me to
- 23:35be. Like okay this makes sense
- 23:38because it's so extreme like we talked about it's very extreme.
- 23:42So many people always use this as an example to of like how
- 23:46shitty Anakin is? Well there has to I will say
- 23:49this. Okay I'm not blind to the
- 23:52obvious This doesn't, you know how people say like oh, he or
- 23:57she's just snapped. Mmm, I don't really believe
- 24:01that. I believe something simmers and
- 24:04there's something in there and then someone makes a choice,
- 24:08it's a rash choice or it's a, you know, it's a compulsive one
- 24:15or impulsive rather. I think there is a lot of hate
- 24:21in Anakin whether it was justified or not, that would
- 24:27allow someone to do that so quickly.
- 24:30Yes, Palpatine groomed him, straight up fucking groomed him.
- 24:35Someone in his ear constantly telling him all the things he
- 24:38wanted to hear all the things he craved.
- 24:40And this is a fragile individual.
- 24:42Mmm. And he made that fucking choice
- 24:47but it's what makes this character.
- 24:49Very interesting. I'll just say that Mom we've
- 24:51discussed before that, like he was created by the wills.
- 24:55You know, like how crazy that they chose this fragile
- 24:58individual to be their vessels. So to speak, right?
- 25:02And there's a lot of questions with that because I'm not going
- 25:06to ignore this either. Mental health is a real thing,
- 25:09mmm, and it counts, and it needs to be taken care of.
- 25:13When it isn't and it's fostered in such a way that it's used
- 25:16against someone or for some bigger plan.
- 25:19Look at what can happen. If you take a person's week,
- 25:22weakness is quote unquote and turn them into devices that you
- 25:28use. Yeah.
- 25:28It's what gas lighting is. Yeah sent.
- 25:31Yeah. And so your sense of reality, it
- 25:34can happen to anyone. I have that's the thing that
- 25:39people sometimes don't understand, unless it's happened
- 25:42to them that Abuse is not ever something a person chooses, and
- 25:47it's often times, you don't even know it's happened to you
- 25:51sometimes, you know, for sure that it's well, there's many
- 25:53types of abuse but like, mental abuse, sometimes you don't even
- 25:57realize. So you look back and you're
- 25:59like, wow, well it's done by the most skilled.
- 26:03Hmm. Who have the least amount of
- 26:05care for an individual and so they're very good at it because
- 26:08they don't care for someone so and so Palpatine it fits that
- 26:12bill. Oh yeah.
- 26:13And it's no wonder. He thought this out he had years
- 26:18to work on it and perfect it and play his little game and it
- 26:23worked and it, but did it because they were unable
- 26:30Palpatine. He was unable to get the one
- 26:33Jedi. He needed the most and that was
- 26:35Luke. Yeah.
- 26:37And like your timer said, I'll never turn to the dark side.
- 26:42I'm a Jedi like my father before For me, my favorite quote and
- 26:45Star Wars mine, too. She's why it's my alarm but so
- 26:48it's a choice. Yeah, and I think that even even
- 26:53so Anakin was pretty fucked up, he was by the time Palpatine got
- 27:00him. So Palpatine didn't get what he
- 27:01wanted fully like he wanted Anakin and his fullest most
- 27:06enraged, strongest young self. And what he ended up getting was
- 27:12a person with A broken psyche and no arms and legs who like
- 27:18his strength and even his range of motion with poorly
- 27:22diminished. It didn't stop him.
- 27:24Obviously, you know, but there's stuff in the comic books that
- 27:27implies that Palpatine was aware that.
- 27:28Now he had a much more limited skill, which is why he wanted
- 27:33Luke so much. Yes, Luke was the key.
- 27:36Yeah. Because he was going to and
- 27:37again thing that Anakin had been, yeah, it's really fucked
- 27:41up and I hate Palpatine. Yeah.
- 27:44He's a, he is nothing to lose nothing because he doesn't care
- 27:48about anybody but himself and that's what makes it so
- 27:50dangerous. Because even if everything falls
- 27:55apart all of his plans, don't work people died.
- 27:57He doesn't care. Nope.
- 27:59And that's when a person is the most dangerous because they can
- 28:04do anything. Their path is destruction, and
- 28:07they're fine with that. Yeah, for the sake of it.
- 28:12He's a true Sith. I mean, arguably the most crafty
- 28:18one, I'd like, what's the ultimate goal here?
- 28:21Palps, like, what are you our like and for what, though?
- 28:24But like ego. Yeah, it's it's not anything
- 28:28that can actually ever be satisfied.
- 28:29No, never absolutely never know. Yeah, which is why people like
- 28:34that. Keep, they keep straight because
- 28:36they cannot feel the satisfaction.
- 28:38It's never enough and so like it becomes brutality for the sake
- 28:43of brutality, basically It reminds me of a Bruce
- 28:48Springsteen song, quote. Hmm, I'm not going to sing it.
- 28:52Well, maybe I will, but it's one of my favorite.
- 28:55It's in the if anyone is familiar with Springsteen's
- 28:58work, I'm a huge fan. He's a personal hero of mine.
- 29:02Hmm, his old stuff. Not as radio Cuts, but the, the
- 29:07song Badlands It goes like this, poor man.
- 29:11Want to be rich, rich man. Want to be king and the King
- 29:14Ain't satisfied till he rules. Everything.
- 29:16Mmm-hmm, because the cycle never ends.
- 29:19Yeah, they're never satisfied because a person who's already
- 29:22craving that level of power is a different kind of person.
- 29:26Yeah. That is not satisfied with
- 29:30anything. The lonely regular person could
- 29:33possibly be satisfied with and that's the difference right
- 29:35between the Jedi who are supposed to focus only on.
- 29:39Here and now it's right in front of them, never being attached,
- 29:42to never craving power because they don't need it because they
- 29:45only have what's right here and then the total opposite of that.
- 29:49Yes, with the Sith and well, howdy in and just want, like
- 29:52wanting everything. And it's so interesting, your
- 29:56final thoughts on The Purge. My biggest question, besides
- 30:03Cody is what we're going to see, grow gu reveal true.
- 30:08That feels to me like a story. They're still telling with the
- 30:11little flashbacks that we've seen how to get out and buy who
- 30:14and I think that's a big key. I think it'll be a big reveal
- 30:18whenever they decide to do. It's going to be something where
- 30:20we're all, like we shit. Yeah, it was crazy.
- 30:23Yeah. So that that's that's the thing
- 30:27that keeps me. Still very interested and every
- 30:29time they reveal something, Like, for example, in bad batch
- 30:32and even at the beginning of Kenobi, where they show the
- 30:37children. Yeah.
- 30:39In order to 66 that I was just like instantly in tears because
- 30:42it's so hard to watch it. Yeah.
- 30:44It's the fighting Jedi that are just doing battle and probably
- 30:50wondering what what is happening.
- 30:53These are my friends, my comrades, my trusted and I've
- 30:57said it a million times watching them.
- 30:59Kill clones is also the So, it's to see the 501st walk up behind
- 31:03Anakin and such a tote, like, a totally different manner is just
- 31:08devastating every time I see that shot.
- 31:11Yeah, it's awful. Its paint, it straight up pain.
- 31:14You know, Star Wars this pain but it was a brilliantly
- 31:20executed plan. Hmm.
- 31:23And I hate Palpatine for it. But at the same time, Hope
- 31:29prevailed in the good guys win. Always, yeah.
- 31:38This week, our question for you listeners, it's painful one.
- 31:42Do your best. Yes please.
- 31:45What do you think happened to Cody After Order 66?
- 31:48What do you think? We might see in a bad marriage
- 31:51coming up. What would you want to see?
- 31:54Like what are your headcanons about it?
- 31:55Even if you don't think it's realistic, we want to hear So
- 31:59let us know your thoughts next week's episode.
- 32:02We since I'm here visiting my space.
- 32:05Twin Lauren, we went to see Rogue one in theaters and saw
- 32:09the featurette on and or which was holy shit, great.
- 32:13We'll get into all of it, including the crying, the
- 32:16sobbing, and the cheering all next week's in next week's
- 32:20episode. So join us.
- 32:21We're going to revisit Rogue one.
- 32:26So in last week's episode, we talked about Obi-Wan Kenobi in a
- 32:29Hawaiian shirt. We sure did amongst other
- 32:32interesting features character cameos.
- 32:36I know there's a lot of weird shit going on over on the Lego
- 32:39Universe. But we asked our listeners, what
- 32:43was their favorite part? We got a few people saying the
- 32:48we had a few people saying that they loved Anakin in particular.
- 32:52Of course, the ob1 in the Hawaiians, you're willing to
- 32:54give it Again we assumed, but Rebecca said, she sent me a
- 32:59message saying, my favorite part of the Lego movie was definitely
- 33:02mats will be one Kenobi and is absolutely adorable, laughs
- 33:06after work. Yes, yes, we, Matt.
- 33:09Lanter is a joy was so glad him and James Arnold Taylor were
- 33:13back for this and I wish they had gotten to record together
- 33:16but probably not because their parts and even overlap but we
- 33:20loved hearing them. Yeah.
- 33:21The Anakin laughing honestly besides over one part It's my
- 33:25face in Munich flippers. Oh my God.
- 33:27I mean it like shaking the flip ya shake.
- 33:30This is a toy folks but it was great.
- 33:32It was a joy. It was precious.
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