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Episode #79: Blessed By His Blood: A Story of Faith & Hope · Beyond Labels Premium

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  SPEAKER_01: I rolled over, hadn't even gotten out of bed, and he said, I need for you to preserve the blood.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's exactly what he said.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I am.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm telling everybody not to get the shot.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm explaining to them.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm educating them.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing all the things.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm being very vocal.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm getting kicked off Twitter.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing all the things, you know?
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  SPEAKER_01: And and um he said, No, it's bigger than that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so from May to September of 21, I was like, I'm here for it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm here for the person.
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  SPEAKER_01: I understand what you're saying, and I'm here for the person that's gonna do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I will, I will be the foot soldier.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: And in September of 21, uh God and I have have very um, very friendly dialogues, you know, and I'm like, God, why is nobody doing this?
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like, this is my thing.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, why is nobody doing this?
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  SPEAKER_01: I hadn't even gotten it out of my mouth.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he like responded and he said, because you're not.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody, welcome to another podcast from Beyond Labels with your co-hosts, myself, uh Joel Salatin, and my great co-host, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Cena McCullum.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today we have the great privilege of talking to someone who saw a need, stepped into the gap, and is and is is creating an option uh in a time when many of us feel like we're running out of options.
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  SPEAKER_02: And boy, if there's a time when we need options, it is now.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so it's really my distinct pleasure to introduce you to Liz James, who has started a blood bank, basically, a nationwide blood bank called Blessed by His Blood.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: And it is to uh offer uh blood options, blood transfusion options, uh for blood that does not have the mRNA jab in it.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_02: On this program, we tend to not use the term vaccine because that is not really a vaccine.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: We all know that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we just call it the jab, and everybody knows what we're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, Liz James, thank you so much for coming on the program with us, and uh we look forward to to having a great discussion.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for the invite.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm just delighted to be here and to be able to share um what our vision is and um kind of how all of this came to pass.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, so let's let's start with uh with the first question.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um, and of course, Cena, I'm gonna turn this over to you pretty quickly as soon as it gets technical.
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  SPEAKER_02: But uh uh Liz, uh give us a bit of your tell tell us the tell us the genesis.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well it's kind of it's kind of a long convoluted story, and but I think people's stories, their own personal stories, is often what prompts the change in everything.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: And um I'm I'm a pharmacist.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm still licensed, but in September of 2020, um I stepped out away from behind the counter um because I refused to give the COVID shot to anybody.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: And it just was not something that I was willing to do.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: And that was after 30 years behind the counter.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um the first 10 years of my pharmacy practice, I was very much um, I drank the Kool-Aid in pharmacy school.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I did all the things.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: And then I had my own health situation that popped up when I was about 33.
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  SPEAKER_01: And through that, um, I found food as a healing agent and did started doing a ton of research and became very much a um a natural health advocate moving forward.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so for the last 20 years, I've spent a lot of my life um off away when I'm not when I wasn't behind the counter, I would be studying and learning alternative ways to heal.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: And um I had so many people in pharmacy, like fellow pharmacists and technicians and everything, they're like, Why are you still even here?
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it, you know, I jokingly would say, Well, I guess I'm a mole at this point because you're because I get the information and then I go home and find out the truth, and then I come back and tell you guys.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_01: And um I I can I can happily and thankfully say that so many of the people that I used to work with didn't get the COVID shot themselves because they would call they called me and said, What do you think about this?
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so they actually they actually didn't.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um anyway, so after I quit in September, I'm I'm curious about that because the as you know, the um the the stigma, the whatever, the you know, the juggernaut was so so profound.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: And as a pharmacist in in a in the pharmacy field field, uh I can't imagine the kind of whatever philosophical, emotional, and financial pressure uh had to have been on people to take it.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what did you find?
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  SPEAKER_02: What did you find was your uh I mean, I'm just I'm just I'm amazed, and of course, as a debater, uh I I love it when there's a winning argument.
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  SPEAKER_02: So how in the world did you did you win the argument with some of your pharmacy colleagues uh in a time when when everything in the culture, including their own training and their own thinking, uh seemed to be pushing them the other direction?
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Joel, I think um, you know, for for the previous 20 years, I had walk the talk.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and for some of the pharmacists that I that I've known that long, they saw me doing that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, the other thing is when you walk away from a six-figure income, that's that's pretty compelling.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like if I was willing to walk away from a six-figure income, who who does that uh on um, you know, I mean, I'm not I'm not saying that to toot my own horn or anything, but that that's the reality is like I put my money where where my mouth is and and said, I know I'm not gonna do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna hurt somebody.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the interesting thing about that answer is uh you're not giving me a a compelling argument.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: In other words, uh I convinced them that you know, whatever, that that uh that there were anomalies in the mRNA or or whatever.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it it was your own personal convictional uh action uh activity that was the most compelling argument.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: I I think that's a we can stop the podcast right now, so you know that that's that's a compelling that's a compelling takeaway for today.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: Is uh and and and and encourages people, and I think on this podcast, we encourage people to um it's it's not so much what you say, it's what you do.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's the beyond labels idea is do this do these things.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Cena, you jump in when you when you need to, but let's finish the story here and get where blessed by his blood actually so you walk away in 2020.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so in 2020, literally, and I have I'm I have a really strong faith.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but in 2020, on September 9th of 2020, I was literally driving home from work and it was about 8:30 at night, I think.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: And like literally, just in my head, I just heard God say, You're out.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that um I drove home and it was just like so profound, like there wasn't even any question about it.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: But when I when I walked inside, um I was talking to my husband as we were getting ready for bed, I didn't say, I think God just talked to me.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I'm getting really nervous about what's about to be asked of me in the pharmacy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and he knew exactly what we were talking about because he's on the same page I am.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um, he didn't even flinch.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: He said, Well, then you need to quit and we'll make it work.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: And so it was like it was like affirmation right there.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: And so I really thought, you know, but again, behind the scenes for the last 20 years, I've been doing uh like holistic health coaching.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: I do advanced lab work analysis for people.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: I helped them find ways to step outside of the big pharma lifestyle.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: And so, but I hadn't been doing it as a full-time gig.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was very, very part-time.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: And so I thought, well, this is what I'm just gonna jump into, and I'm gonna, I'm this is I'm just gonna do this, you know?
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: And so I started trying to build my business.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: And every morning I get up and have um prayer time and quiet time.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: And in January of 21, like I got up, I hadn't even gotten out of bed, and God said in my head, like the first thing, like first thing that popped in my brain when I woke up was he said, if you have no country, you'll have no business.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: And so I was like, okay, what am I supposed to do?
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like I was like, it was almost like a panic point.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: And so um I signed up for a constitution class that day and started taking, and I took the con a constitution class, and from there I ended up taking a biblical citizenship class, and then I started teaching biblical citizenship classes, um, which I which I teach online.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm on my seventh series now of teaching that, teaching those.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought, okay, here's I'm I'm in the game.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: This is what I'm supposed to be doing.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm teaching people, especially, especially Christians, that we're supposed to get out there and do the things, you know, not be quiet about it.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and in the process, I found out that the the um town that I live in, in the precinct that I live in, um, did not have a precinct chair, and I don't think ever ever has had a precinct chair.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so um I kind of threw up in my mouth a little bit and stepped into the the um precinct chair role as well, because it's like again, you're gonna have to get in there and start to do the dirty work, which is dirty.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if it is dirty, and but if there's not good people in there, then who's gonna who's gonna be in there?
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's the people who are making it dirty.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um now my plate is really full.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like really, really full.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I thought this is where I am, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And life is like I've got all the things because we live on a farm too.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have dairy cows and and chickens and and garden and and all the other things too.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but then and in May of 21, um I've again he like hits me in the morning a lot of times.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I I rolled over, hadn't even gotten out of bed, and he said, I need for you to preserve the blood.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's exactly what he said.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I am, I'm telling everybody not to get the shot.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm explaining to them, I'm educating them, I'm doing all the things, I'm being very vocal, I'm getting kicked off Twitter, I'm doing all the things, you know.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: And and um he said, No, it's bigger than that.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: And so from May to September of 21, I was like, I'm here for it, I'm here for the person.
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  SPEAKER_01: I understand what you're saying, and I'm here for the person that's gonna do it.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I will I will be the foot soldier.
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  SPEAKER_01: And in September of 21, uh God and I have have very um, very friendly dialogues, you know, and I'm like, God, why is nobody doing this?
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like, this is my thing.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, why is nobody doing this?
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  SPEAKER_01: I hadn't even gotten it out of my mouth.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he like responded and he said, because you're not.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: And it was like a smackdown.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um it like, I mean, my heart, I my heart started beating.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: And even even now I almost lose my my words.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I'm nobody.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: I am like, you know, I don't have a face, I don't have a following, I don't have I don't have finances.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, I'm not anybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he said, he said, every he said, the people you're thinking about are too much, and you're just enough.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: And what that what that what that means is when this works, it's all God, it's not me.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: So and that's the way it's supposed to be, you know.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I reached out to um about I I have I was in a chat group of about 250 people from all over the United States that we've been friends for several for you know three or four years.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, I am gonna do this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Would anybody like to help me?
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I had seven people raise their hand and say, I'm I I'll help you.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, what are we gonna do?
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, heck if I know, we're gonna figure it out though.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: So so from September to November of 21, I was just like, like, okay, what am I supposed to do?
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  SPEAKER_01: How am I supposed to do this?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's it just seems so big, but it was kind of like a a resting period of of a waiting period.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: And in November of 21, I was at a Weston A Price conference.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: And um I on the second day of the Weston A Price Conference, I was late, and so I missed about half of the first session.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: And so I said, I'm just gonna go into the exhibitors hall and walk around while it's quiet in there.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: And um then I'll I'll hit the second session.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so when I got into this into the exhibitors hall, I was walking around and I started a conversation with a gal.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: And then all of a sudden, God just downloaded pretty much everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, this is how you're gonna do it.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: And so I sat down, I missed the second session.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: I like was writing all my notes down.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was very unusual because um, you know, I live in Texas, and there was a couple of very specific things.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: One is that we we were to be a cooperative, we were not to be a 501c3 um to keep the government out of our business.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: The other thing is that um it was supposed to be out of Minnesota, not out of Texas.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: And at that time I didn't know anybody in Minnesota.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, although interestingly, the first lady that I met at the Weston A Price Conference was from Minnesota.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: So that was that was just kind of a funny aside.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: But after I get, I was like, okay, it needs to be out of Minnesota.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: I've got to start finding a lawyer.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: So um it took me from November to January to find a lawyer in Minnesota that would work with us.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: And unfortunately, I found five lawyers, but only one of them said yes.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I was looking for a Christian, I was looking for somebody who believes in what we're doing, and um, somebody who wasn't afraid, you know, and somebody who's a patriot that actually loves our country.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: And they all they all fit three, but not the fear part.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Four of them stepped away because um they were afraid of the Minnesota bar.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: So and and two of them actually said that.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like they were they were afraid of that and afraid of of what that might mean to their practice.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: So um in the end of January, beginning of February of 22, we actually launched.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like I mean, we knew immediately what our name was gonna be, we knew immediately what our logo was gonna look like, we knew immediately what our mission statement was.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was like all just very simple.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but getting everything together, I mean, this has been a massive learning curve and process from a business standpoint.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and you know, Charlie, my husband, he and I initially we were just pulling money out of our retirement to make this happen.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: We are a not-for-profit cooperative, so um nobody's ever gonna make a ton of money on this.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: Every every member will be a member owner.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: And um, today is actually our soft launch day.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: And that doesn't mean that everybody can hop in.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's not open like that.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like we're we're doing some beta testing to today and over the next week with um some very key people who can identify any bugs that we have.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: We have a fantastic um IT guys that are have built our membership program for us.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: The way it the way it's gonna work, because there's no testing, right?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: There's no testing for the blood to know for sure if somebody's had the shot or not.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um so what we are relying on is the community.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: And after three years, we know who our people are.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we know exactly who stood up within our own individual circles.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: And so we are um like I'll have a membership number.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: And then if I know somebody in my circle that I know didn't get the shot, I'll I'll hand my membership number over to them, and then they use that as a referral link to sign up.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Now they have to fill out a there's a membership application that has um about 30 questions on it.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: We're pretty detailed.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, our my membership coordinator is a nurse, and so she and I have sat down um on the medical side and we've worked out a set of questions based on the things we don't know because there's so much we don't know, right?
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is where all of this goes down.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know what we don't know, therefore we have to protect the only thing that we have that is of incredible value is our DNA.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we have to protect that.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's got God's name written in our DNA, and and the thought of becoming something less than human over time um is is concerning on a physical level, but it's also concerning on a spiritual level, too.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I when I was in pharmacy school, um, that was at the height of um uh HIV and the blood transfusions, you were getting people were getting HIV from blood transfusions.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that that's probably one of the first things that jiggled my brain, you know, even pre-May of 21, was this is a problem for the blood because everything is still emergency use authorization, right?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, so there's not there's not adequate testing.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: There never has been any adequate testing on any of the vaccines we have now.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm talking all of them, they've they're all um not tested um correctly, right?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: So um, but the fact that we have DNA being or mRNA that goes in and changes your DNA is problematic, not to mention the tremendous amount of spike proteins that are generated and are therefore in the blood as well, um, in people who've gotten the shot.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: So that's pretty much my story.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we're that's where that's where we are right now.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I've I've got just the best um group of board of directors.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, God put um I call them the A team because I mean he could have he could have assembled like seven CPAs, right?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: And he didn't.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: He gave me he gave us an edge an educator, um, uh somebody who's who's very good at numbers and a paralegal and a nurse.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, like I have uh some I got somebody with IT and marketing background, and I mean it's just it's great.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's I mean he gave you he he gave you a uh he gave you a money guy and some fishermen.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly right.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh wonderful.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well Cena, I think it's time for you to jump in and drill down into some of the uh the I mean I th I think we have two basic threads here.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: One is kind of a spiritual thread, and yeah, Tina, we're both wiping our eyes here.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's such a compelling story.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um we've got two threads.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: One is a spiritual thread, uh that that our body is, you know, is it's a it's a temple.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: God made it.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: And and so uh who are we to adulterate it this way?
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: We also have a physical thread.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, what is this actually doing um uh uh for us physically?
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: So um with that intro, Cena, I'll let you pursue uh kind of that that physical element at this point.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um is that fair?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, I would love to do that.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: So and yes, I was totally tearing up during your story because that this sounds um remarkable.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: It sounds similar to my healing journey, right, Joel, where um for a while I was afraid to come forward and to say, like, what did God show me?
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because sometimes people view you like you're crazy, like, oh, you're fearing God now, or like God's showing you things in your mind.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: So part of this is um, I'm so grateful for you, Liz, because this is affirming for me, you know, that I am not crazy.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: God is actually communicating with me.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: And when you choose that face over fear, amazing things can happen.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's incredible and And I'm sure you've seen this too, but I have met people now all over the country and talked to people all over the country, like leaders.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, people, and when I say leaders, I'm talking about people who God has tapped on the shoulder and they have chosen to listen.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like it's like we're on a road and there's like little tributaries coming in on the road, and we're all walking on this road now, carrying a piece of the puzzle that is that and that piece of the puzzle is is of the way things are supposed to be, you know, and it's just so beautiful to keep running into these people like you guys who have your own piece of the puzzle, and we can't do it without each one of us having our own piece to bring to the table.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly right.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that, you know, the piece you're holding is this blood component.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, like you said, the blood is not just physical, it is, it is spiritual, it is, it carries an energy with it.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: And most people don't actually think about, you know, what if I need a blood transfusion at some point, right?
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: We don't usually walk around thinking, oh, I might get into a car accident and need a blood transfusion.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not like in the forefront of our minds.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I I want to get into some technical questions with the business, but I also want to just quickly share this one story.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um so when I gave birth to my third child to Trinity, uh the short version of the story is I lost, it was a home birth, you know, because it's during COVID where they would take your baby from you if you tested positive.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I gave birth at home and I lost a lot of blood.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: It was like a you know, a water birth, a lot of blood.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I had a medical doctor with me and a midwife.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: And um, nobody took me to the hospital, even though I was in and out of consciousness saying I need to go to the hospital.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: And the bottom line was later on we found out my hemoglobin had actually dropped to around five, which is, you know, you're either gonna have a heart attack or you're gonna die at that point.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's very, very critically low.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I should have, by all accounts, had a blood transfusion.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, a week later is when I saw my OB, and she was furious that that medical doctor didn't take me in and give me blood transfusion.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: And even a week later, it was so low, she wanted me to have a transfusion.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I said no.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I said no for two reasons.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: One, I said because the power that made my body will heal my body, which of course is God.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: And the second reason is because I did not want a blood transfusion for other reasons.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like the COVID vaccine wasn't available at that time, but I was concerned about possible spike protein.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Also, other things that can be in the blood, like glyphosate or plastics or heavy metals.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was the first time I really came face to face with this concept of what if I did need a transfusion?
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: They're telling me I do need one.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling weak, I'm I'm I'm almost gonna vomit, I'm nauseous, I can't really stand up.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, by all accounts, I should have it done.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: But God convicted me: no, you don't want to put that in your body.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: And second, I will take care of you.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: And he did.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: I came back in and did blood tests again because the OB insisted on it to track the hemoglobin and the hematocrit.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: Within two weeks, all my levels were normal.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, two weeks from going from a hemoglobin of five.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: The OB was dumbfounded.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, This is we've never seen this happen.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: I can't believe the hematocrit is is is totally in the normal range, you know.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm I'm sure you weren't eating the standard American diet and doing yes, I had that going for me, you know, and he helped me.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, you know, God was like, eat, you know, eat more spinach, eat more red meat, you know.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: I I did take an iron supplement that I found that was, you know, as clean as it can be for a supplement.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: So he helped me.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: He gave me um the keys, he gave me those pieces of the puzzle.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: But it's the whole concept that, like you're saying, number one, there's just power in your faith, right?
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: And what he can, what he can, how he can deliver you, you know, to peace and health and joy.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: But number two, this is not a topic that most of us think about.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm very grateful that he led you on this path because this is a big missing piece of the puzzle.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: So my first question is, um, how does the company structure actually work?
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're not like your blood's not right in every hospital, right?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: So, how do when people become, I'm assuming, a member of the of the cooperative, if they need it, how do they actually get the blood?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so so the way the way we are structured to work is we have a two-phase rollout.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Our phase one is non-emergent need, because we had to start somewhere.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: And so our non-emergent need is um scheduled surgeries, births, like you, like you were just talking about, um, and known transfusion needs for for whatever reason.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: And that gives us a little bit of leeway time because you need like three to five days beforehand um to be able to get the donors together.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: And the way, and again, this is phase one.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'll talk about phase two in just a minute, but this is the most economical way we can do this to get started and also to get a little bit of income coming in.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the membership will be it's$25 annually per adult, and it's free for children.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: So, again, we're trying to keep this as low, uh as low priced as possible to help as many people as as we can.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: We don't want price to be a deterrent at all.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and what will happen is like say you have a need, then um we will get note, you'll notify us, or your husband, or somebody will notify us that there's a need.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: And then we in our database, we will go in and identify who those members are who would be compatible blood donors.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then we will actually be the ones who reach out to them.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but your job or your husband's job is then to get the designated donor order written by the doctor.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: And so it is important that people have a doctor that understands and is willing to work with you.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's very interesting.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we've actually had to branch out into a third aspect of this that we weren't we weren't planning on it, but it's turning into a need is legislation.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: So what we have found in all of our conversations with people, um, and we have like I said, we've got a we've got several thousand people that are standing in queue waiting to to apply for membership somehow.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: And um in the in that queue, there's people we've had conversations with who have already gone through this on the in within their family and had had pushback from either the doctor or the hospital.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: And it's very interesting because you know, I'm in my 50s, and when I was in my 20s, I had a minor procedure done.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, with every procedure, there's a risk of of major blood loss.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: And that was during the time where HIV was an issue and in blood supply.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: And so my mom and my brother donated, and the blood was on standby.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: Again, this is has decades.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's been going on for decades.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: And the fact that a doctor or a hospital uses their white coat authority to deny somebody that that option that is a legal, often used option that's been around for decades, is galling.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the fact that we even have to have this discussion about legislation to prohibit somebody in the medical profession from denying somebody this, it number one, it violates the 14th Amendment section one.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Number two, it violates the 1990s Patient Self-Determination Act that says the patient has the right to say what does or does not happen to their own body.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: And number three, it violates the International Code of Religious Bel and Freedom.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I religion and belief are similar, but they're two different things.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: If you believe something, you have the right to that belief.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so all of these things together, um, I've written a legislative packet that I've started handing out at as I can get down to Austin in Texas, because this needs to be done on a state-by-state level, um, to start trying to find senators and representatives who are willing to get this try introduced as an amendment to a medical freedom bill, because there's a bunch of medical freedom bills out there right now, and it it fits nicely in a lot of the bills.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I found out yesterday that I've got a senator who's actually done that.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: So that uh a Texas State Senator.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's our first start.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: But I've got a Gallup in Idaho, I've got another one in Georgia, and I've given them the information and they've started working on that.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: And we're also putting together a petition where people can start.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, if we can get three or four hundred thousand signatures, then we can start taking it all across the United States saying this needs to be added, you know.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um I guess that one I'm sorry, just to interrupt, but but just to make it clear for our for our listeners to understand, you're telling me that even with all this, if I go in for a scheduled surgery and and and I have uh I have three three people in the co-op that donate uh uh you know some blood apiece on standby for me, that a doctor or a hospital could deny me that blood and require me to use something else.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: That is correct.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: That is correct.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: That is that's why it's very important that you know your doctor well and that you know the hospital that you're gonna be working with well, and that whoever has medical power of attorney or your living will needs to state some things very clearly.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, now the other thing before I get into the the phase two is we also want people to be aware of there's something called autologous donation.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: And autologous donation is is if you know far enough in advance.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, let's be let's be clear on this.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: Your safest blood is your own.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, without a doubt.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: So if you know a month out or two months out that you're gonna have surgery, then you get your doctor to write a designated order and you and you donate your own blood to hold on standby.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: It only it will only stay for you know about 50 days, but you can get usually two pints donated in that period of time.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: So that's a that's I would say that should be for people who have the time to do that and have the and are healthy enough to do that, that should be first option.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the second thing is in surgery, they have something called cell saver technology.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: And if you but you have to ask for it in most cases.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: And this in this situation, there has to be a perfusionist on standby so that say you started bleeding out on the surgical table, they would take your blood and and put it through a machine.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: They would collect it as it as you're bleeding out, they collect it, they put it through a machine, and then they would re-admin administer it to you.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's actually the safest way of all to, and there are hospitals that have what they call bloodless surgeries, that that's what they're doing.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're giving you your own your own blood back.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: And there's there's a handful of those um hospitals throughout the United States that do that, and you can you can look that up online.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: But um, so those those are some other options.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: And and um I guess well, before we I move on to phase two, do you have any any questions about any of this?
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um well, one kind of more technical question I have is so you said that um the membership, even in this phase one, it's based on who you know, right?
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're not testing the blood.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: In your FAQs on your website, you do state that testing is being developed.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: So, like they're they're developing some kind of testing where they're going to be able to distinguish between a person's blood who had the jab and a person's blood who did not.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: So, what are the markers that they're looking for to distinguish between the two?
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that I don't know.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just aware of of two separate entities, one in Texas and one up in Idaho, that are working on this testing.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: And the question here's the problem.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there's a lot, there's lots of problems.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: Number one, whatever testing that we that is done has to be widespread.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: It can't be just in two locations, it has to be economical and it has to be simple.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like, like I don't believe the PCR testing is bunk, but it has to be something that's like PCR testing simple, where it could be like just a really quick test.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and who how far out that is, who knows, you know.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it and you know, call me a conspiracy theorist, but I doubt that there's a lot of money going into this because you know, I mean, there's it's gonna have to be somebody doing it independently with independent independently financed, because just like what we're doing now, uh the big the big corporate world is not gonna want anything to do with that because as soon as they do that, then they're admitting that there's something wrong with the blood.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're admitting there's a difference, right?
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: And we we've seen this, Joel, in the food supply, right?
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: Even with like RBGH recombinant bovine growth hormone, they still have to have that FDA disclaimer on there that FDA says there's no difference between RBH treated cows and none.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: So they cannot, I in my opinion, I completely agree with you, Liz, they cannot maybe ever admit that there is a difference in the blood, you know, at least at these elite levels, like government levels.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why we're really we understand that we're gonna have to, I mean, there's a there is a parallel system being developed.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's there's a parallel system in the food world, there's a parallel system in the medical world that's being developed.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: And and, you know, people are gonna make their choice where they want, where they want to go.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I believe what's gonna happen is it's there's almost gonna be like a medical tourism type.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I and I I say tourism not as like a vacation, but where people opt to go certain places to have things done because they know what they have what what their freedom is, you know?
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and so in terms of that, so we're still in phase one, in terms of who can become like a member.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: So obviously, you know, you're talking about getting blood donations from people who have not been jabbed.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: What if there's somebody who did receive the jab and now they're like, oh, I don't want to do that anymore, you know, but and I want to be part of your program.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna be a blood donor, but can I pay and become a recipient of the blood?
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: So, so right now we're approaching this as um, you know, like on the airplane, they say we take care of you when the oxygen mask drops down, you take care of yourself first, and then you start putting the oxygen mask on everybody else.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's the way it goes in in an airline.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: Now they now they have to now they have to say, first take your mask off and then put the oxygen mask on.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: There well, there's there there's that.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: There is that.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: But wait, so by that you mean in taking care of putting the putting the mask on yourself first, you mean the per the member who's actually signing up then has to be unvaccinated.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: The member has the member.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because then they're in the pool of people who could actually receive the blood.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: So if someone has been vaccinated, even if they've changed their mind and now they're like, oh, for lack of a better terminology, I'm gonna change and come over to this tribe.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I regret doing that, they still don't have the ability to join your membership.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_01: So what we are our membership right now, and and it will remain this way, our membership, we're identifying the discerning individuals, the people who have had who have made their choice from the very beginning.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_01: Now, when we're up and running, after we are sure we can take care of those people, like we have the blood supply to take care of those people, we will eventually offer scholarships for people just like you're talking about.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: They will not be members, they will be, they will submit as a scholarship, and and then we'll work to take care of them.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: So, but but first we have to take care of the people who have worked so hard to and you're right.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's a lot of people out there who said it who say I I wish that I'd never gotten a shot.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: I work with a lot of those people in my in my private practice.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, so and there's I mean, there's so many problems right now with the blood supply.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's not any testing uh in terms of what happens when you mix all the different kinds of vaccines together, then what happens, you know?
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's just, you know, I I run into so many people and talk to so many people who have family members that did get blood transfusions that now have blood clots.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, who've never had any history of blood clots.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I've got one in in the hospital in Arizona right now that I've been working with.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's I mean, it's just um we I I hate, I I don't like that we have to do this, but at the same time, there's just not any other way um to to identify.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if we let if we let other people in, then that puts our members at risk.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if you let them in as donors, yeah.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: If we let them in as donors, we have but we've some of the questions that we've asked, like, what is the effect on say you have a spouse, one got the shot, one didn't.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_01: So right?
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: Or or an intimate partner, whatever.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: If if that's the case, we're allowing like the wife to become a member, but she is a recipient only, because we don't know we don't know what's gone on otherwise.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, uh literally we're we are mapping this after the way um things things were mapped once HIV was found to be how is HIV was HIV transmitted?
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's what we're when we don't know, we're referring back to that.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: I love that you have a model to go off of and that um, you know, you obviously were chosen by God um for this particular reason, and it's quite evident in speaking to you about why he chose you.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like you have this knowledge and this background that you can pull from to really make this thing successful um and to make it um really easy to engage in, to explain it, and to make sure that it stays true, right?
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: That you're able to deliver on that, on that promise and on the word.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm happy to hear that at some point um you are considering open up to those other people, not as donors, but as recipients.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because as I was reading, you know, through the website and talking about it with my husband, that was one thing that came up to us was um, you know, for for us, this is also like a biblical principle that you don't want to, you know, turn away from anybody who wants to come in because you're repeating the cycle of how they treated us, you know, when we when many of us were shuns.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: I I can't and I can't tell you the number of hours we we as a board debated on this.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we again we we really tried, we look at the the modern science HIV, but then we go back and look at Noah too.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, there's that.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's funny that you say that because just this morning, when I was discussing this with my husband, he used that approach.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, and I even wrote it down.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, Are you creating an arc and inviting everybody like Noah?
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: Or are you creating division and judgment and setting up two a two class system now with the clean and the unclean clean?
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think we create we were the ones that created the system, if you want to go that far.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, I know, but that's what he's saying.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: They created that system.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so is it right for us to turn around and be like, now we're gonna do the same to you in a different way?
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: And you're saying you're not doing that.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: You're not doing so this is a this is kind of a personal story, but um God actually spoke to me on the on this.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: And last last March, um, this is kind of a a uh a little rabbit trail here, but it has everything to do with what we're talking about.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um it in March of last year, we had a possum get in our our um chicken coop, and my our dogs broke into the chicken coop and killed the possum.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so um I went out there and it was about 9:30 at night.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: The dogs were making a lot of noise, and I go in there, there's a very dead possum, very dead, and babies all over babies all over the place, baby possums.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I turned around and I went back inside and I said, Charlie, you're gonna have to deal with this.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: I can't do it.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: I can't, I can't do it.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: And so he went out, and as soon as he went out, as soon as the door shut, God said, Hey, you know that verse about the least of these in the Bible?
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I said, Yeah, he said, You just turned your back on the babies of the least of these.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Ah, I felt terrible.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I felt so bad.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I do a lot of of animal rescue and and have raised a ton of baby animals.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh my word.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so he came back in like about 20 minutes later.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't even ask what had gone on.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: I just felt awful.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: And the next morning I went out and I was feeding and it was raining and cold, and and um, there was one little possum that was like I thought it was dead in the in the chicken coop.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: And um so I I picked it up and I was gonna throw it in the woods, you know, because I thought it was dead.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it just barely moved and it didn't have it, it didn't even have its eyes open, and it was about, you know, just tiny little thing, and it moved.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_01: And God just said like that fast, he said, here's your do-over.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_01: And so I put her, I put her in my pocket, in my flannel shirt pocket, finished feeding everybody, doing all the things, came inside, and I was like, All right, what am I gonna do here?
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so I ended up doing a, you know, every three hours around the clock, um taking care of taking care of this little possum.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_01: And she lived in my bra for almost well, six weeks.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, she's a marsupial, and that was as close as I could get to the situation.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: So um, so anyway, but the I was talking to a friend of mine that I've met throughout all this process, and she's a massage therapist up in Chicago, and she was saying, There's there's something to the story.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not I'm not like going on this weird rabbit trail or whatever, but I was talking to my friend in Chicago, and and she's we were talking about the jabbed versus the unjabbed because there's a lot of like, I mean, there's the shedding, there's you know, the the personal involvement, the hands-on personal involvement, you know, it's like how much are you willing to get involved?
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_01: And she said she was taking care of somebody.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_01: She didn't even know that I had this possum in my bra where we're having this conversation.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, she said, you know, she said, it's the strangest thing.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_01: I live in Chicago, I work in Chicago.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_01: My little practice has like a little porch area.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, I got done working with this person, and I've been sitting there thinking about do I how do I handle people who've had the shot?
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_01: Do I want to continue to engage them in my practice?
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: And for her, she said, right about that time, this she said, this ginormous possum star walked across her back porch.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, I just heard God say, you're not healthy enough yourself.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: You need you need to protect yourself or you won't make or you you it will affect you.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, so I've just decided that I just can't.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: I just can't.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: And at that very moment, at that very moment, God said, Where's your possum?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: And he said, It's right next to your heart.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: And he said, everybody has it backwards.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's like they think the unjabbed are the least of these, but it's actually the jabbed are the least of these.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so my heart is there.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: And for my personal practice, I have my hands on the jabbed people all the time.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_01: And God said, I will protect you and it will be okay.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: But everybody, I can't say that for everybody else, you know.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I've we've got to we've got to protect the people that that need to be protected.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_02: So Yeah, I I'm I'm sure you're not um you're not showing a guilt trip on me for all the baby rats and possums I've killed in the in the brooder that uh that eat that that that kill all my chicks.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I I call them Philistines.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_02: Philistines.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_02: We kill them, men, women, babies, children, everything.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_02: Get rid of them, you know.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh hey, listen, listen, we're all we're almost out of time here.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh what a delightful conversation.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, can can we can we do phase two here in just in just a minute or so?
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: Because we're we're definitely up against the clock here.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, we sure can.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: So phase two is emergent need.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I and we've already started talking to doctors and clinics, and I've had doctors reach out to me saying, I want to be part of this.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: How can I help?
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: And so the money that that comes in in these$25 or in larger donations, I mean, the quicker we can get to phase two completely depends on the finances we have in our in our coffers.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we will start what we want to do is to because we know a lot of doctors have left corporate medicine because they didn't want to do what corporate medicine and corporate insurance was asking them to do.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so they've become concierge, doctors, whatever.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: But in the process, they've left behind, you know, equipment and everything else because because they're starting over again.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so our plan is to take the money and say, we will help provide the storage facilities in throughout the United States if you will, if you will be the one to do this.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_01: And so um I've got I've got a hospital up in Ohio, and they're independent.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: These are independent um that is very interested in what we're doing.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: I've got um another one in Idaho.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: I've got like they're starting to pop up.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: I've got some in Texas.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so it's just getting the word out and finding our location so that we can say, we've got it.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we've got and it's so it's gonna happen, but it's all grassroots, right?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not it, and I'll tell you what, I mean, if God has gotten us this far, we are not gonna fail.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's gonna he's gonna take it to completion.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I love that.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_00: And where can people go to find um the company that you're setting up and you know to be part of this co-op?
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_00: Where can they find more information?
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: And you said today is the day that you launched the beta testing, right?
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: So when do you think it might be open for people to actually become members?
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: So we are anticipating that to be um if beta testing goes well, I mean, in seven to ten days, we we might be open and running.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_01: If if we have no bugs or or small bugs that can that are quickly fixed, you know, it'll be it'll be you know seven to ten days.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: If not, it might be just a little bit longer, but we fully anticipate before the end of the month being uh a hundred percent up and running.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: So, and there is there is in addition to the membership agreement, we also have a covenant that we require people to sign.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: And that covenant um is I mean that's spiritually, that's a greater thing than than getting it notarized or whatever, because you are actually signing a document before God saying everything I've submitted here is true, and and I stand behind it.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, and and what is the name of the website?
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's www.blessed by his blood.com.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Joel, we're about out of time.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want to wrap us up, Joel?
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm I I can.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_02: What a what a wonderful uh um uh we I feel like this is as cutting edge, Cena.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: Don't you think?
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like this is as cutting edge as any podcast we've we've ever done.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and I certainly didn't know today was the soft launch.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we hit that right on the mark, March 1.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so so I'll tell you what, uh Liz, you have you are just you are a champion.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_02: You are a true I'm almost our crying here.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_02: You're you're a true hero.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_02: We are you thank you.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_02: We appreciate you.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_02: We will do everything we can to make this to uh to be God's people at this time uh to be like Esther for such a time as this.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's what we want to be.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you for being with us.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you all for listening to another episode of Beyond Labels Podcast.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_02: We look forward to visiting with you next week.