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OBN JAY - The Bacon Sandwich · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Why it was namous Obi and j R. Harman. Today
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  Speaker 1: we even while I broke your heard me with Coco
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  Speaker 1: and we got Dorito's bread bacon. We make a bacon
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  Speaker 1: sandwiches about the show y'all High Woods when I was
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  Speaker 1: broken brom nice and this reminds me of like would
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  Speaker 1: i'd imagine my little brother ate after school to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: like super simple when you when I see anything red
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  Speaker 1: or chips, gang some cyrial, I was actually thinking you
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  Speaker 1: were gonna go for cereal. But um, but I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: to eat some bacon. The last time I eat bacon
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  Speaker 1: was a long time ago. I think now I just
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  Speaker 1: buy a turkey bacon, so cook me, feed me. So
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  Speaker 1: some people don't know how to work it, I know
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  Speaker 1: how to Rookie. I feel like you're a real cook
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  Speaker 1: because when we were talking earlier too, it's just like
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  Speaker 1: you're so comfortable. I know what I'm doing. So what's
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  Speaker 1: your backstory? It wasn't a real cook. But when I
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  Speaker 1: was growing up, my mama had a stroke when I
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  Speaker 1: was about ten. She actually had two when I was
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  Speaker 1: ten and like thirteen, so I couldn't. I had to
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  Speaker 1: fix up. I had to, really, I had to like
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  Speaker 1: bathe the feed up, all kinds of stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't really know how to cook. But I
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  Speaker 1: got an older brother and the older sister who did
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more. But when it came to me,
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  Speaker 1: it was baking bread. You know what I'm saying, all right?
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  Speaker 1: And this was like this like after school dish or
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  Speaker 1: just around the clock dish. This was if I'm hungry. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: probably like autter school or someth because at school, I
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  Speaker 1: probably ate breakfast or something. You know that the schools
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  Speaker 1: had free breakfast and ship but really one of those
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  Speaker 1: that loaded up on the free sereal or mm hmmm, nah,
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  Speaker 1: because my appetite when I was when I was going on,
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  Speaker 1: my appetite was just my appetites Tuesday still like I
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  Speaker 1: eat this a little bit, so I wouldn't greet you
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  Speaker 1: or nothing, because I couldn't eat at home, but I
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  Speaker 1: make sure I eating stuff taking home and I see
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  Speaker 1: what's what they got next. Whatever. However, so when was
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  Speaker 1: the last time you made this dish for yourself? It's
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  Speaker 1: been years years, but it ain't been that many years though,
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  Speaker 1: probably high school. Like I was in high school, I graduated,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, but when did you get your like your
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  Speaker 1: first start on like your music career. I started recording
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  Speaker 1: when I was seventeen years old, so and then a
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  Speaker 1: year after that, I just worked. I worked work for
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  Speaker 1: a whole Australia. You didn't have straight I got signed
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  Speaker 1: like November tween the eighteen to Columbia Records. So and
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  Speaker 1: how did you get how did you go from rapping?
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing like in your your friends right, and then
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  Speaker 1: how did you get to Columbia? Like how does Columbia
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  Speaker 1: get a hold of your music? From bad Ridge um? Columbia?
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  Speaker 1: They like discovered me on YouTube. A lot of my
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  Speaker 1: stuff was going viral, million's reviews and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: By time I was signed, already had like ten or
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  Speaker 1: fifteen million views, like just streams without the label, Like
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  Speaker 1: it just went viral unexpected. I ain't even think it would.
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  Speaker 1: I just shot videos. I started like taking the series
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  Speaker 1: like then let me try to step out. So they
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  Speaker 1: see this video and they immediately just reach out to you.
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  Speaker 1: They reach out all the label I took a trip
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  Speaker 1: to New York and me were like ten and labels
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna just go with Clump
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  Speaker 1: And what'd your parents say? Well, all this is going on.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't know what the same mom. They was just
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  Speaker 1: like all right, because damn really they wasn't into music,
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  Speaker 1: Like they weren't not really for it for real. I
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  Speaker 1: ain't gonna say they wasn't really for it, but it
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  Speaker 1: was a surprise. I wasn't even tell the moms and pops. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I I grew up in a single home, so moms,
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  Speaker 1: but I talked about pops too. We got a good relationship.
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  Speaker 1: But I wasn't telling her like when I leave a house,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to the studio. It was just going I'm
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  Speaker 1: just trying to picture. What does the studio look like?
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  Speaker 1: Is this like a studio at your friend's house or
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  Speaker 1: like like an actual studio. It was a studio in
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  Speaker 1: my friend's house. He had a studio. He had a
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  Speaker 1: too speakers and a microphone set up in one of
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  Speaker 1: his rooms in his house. And he made he actually
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  Speaker 1: like uh he actually like um a platinum producer right now.
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  Speaker 1: We both like started like in his house and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But he uh, he actually got some success too, but
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  Speaker 1: but started yeah, and he's like I probably still got
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  Speaker 1: videos in my phone to us making one of my
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  Speaker 1: hits in the crib yeah, like he's like my first
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  Speaker 1: couple of songs that started blowing up. They came out
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  Speaker 1: of his carib I'm gonna just wait on. So he
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  Speaker 1: you both weren't like yeah, we both were just you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a pushing for a dream. Now. Do you guys
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  Speaker 1: still clap? Yeah? Yeah, we just Uh. I had my
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  Speaker 1: first arena showing Baton Rouge just past three days ago,
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  Speaker 1: like three days ago, first ever and we uh he
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  Speaker 1: came out and support came performed with me and Stiff
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  Speaker 1: because all my songs that's hits, he produced them. Man,
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  Speaker 1: we both like, you know, yeah, Chris James. This name
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  Speaker 1: is Chris James, probably like five six years older than you,
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  Speaker 1: probably about four five years older than me. So would
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  Speaker 1: you consider him like a mentor? Did you have mentors? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Not really? He uh he helped me with certain things.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, like we help each other though, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you look at me like Bertie did
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  Speaker 1: your thing, like hold up what I should do? And
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  Speaker 1: I give him? We both we feet ot. We we
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  Speaker 1: ment to each other for for real, like we help
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  Speaker 1: each other whatever. You know. So you were first record
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  Speaker 1: deal on two thousand and eighteen. You're not currently fine
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  Speaker 1: to Columbia. Correct, No, with Empire you Yeah, so was
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  Speaker 1: there like a pivot or like something crazy to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious what happened. Uh, well, honestly it was. It
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  Speaker 1: really wasn't any too crazy. Columbia just was behind all time.
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  Speaker 1: The way I said my deal up was we should
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  Speaker 1: drop by this amount of time. If not, you owe
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  Speaker 1: me anything. It used to at that up like that
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  Speaker 1: what my lawyer did. Yeah, my lawyers that, and you
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  Speaker 1: had people people are also coming at you, so you
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  Speaker 1: can kind of control that, right, Yeah, And everybody wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: agreeing to that. So that's why in Columbia was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, that's cool, okay. And then so it
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  Speaker 1: was easy to get out to deal if they didn't perform, yo,
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  Speaker 1: like okay, we ain't gonna give you this, but we
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  Speaker 1: don't let you continue your career and everything I got,
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  Speaker 1: my masters and all that. They ain't interfering with it
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  Speaker 1: and nothing like that. So a little bad blood Columbia's
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  Speaker 1: still rock with him. It's all good. But I'm with
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  Speaker 1: Empire now. So that's that's the team. How does someone
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  Speaker 1: from your background, you don't have any music business experience
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  Speaker 1: elevate to overnight. A. Um. It took me feeling real
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  Speaker 1: or something going out the way I thought it would go,
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  Speaker 1: like come, let'ta bea I thought it alright, cool, it's up,
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  Speaker 1: like I ain't with about men. I know I got
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  Speaker 1: the support. It didn't go like that I already had.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking I either the label for support when
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  Speaker 1: I already had fifteen and streaming when I got signed.
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  Speaker 1: I was I was young though, you know, so this
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight was music distribution. It was still
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  Speaker 1: heavinly Le Digital at that time, right, yes, so you
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  Speaker 1: really didn't even need them for a distribution I made.
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  Speaker 1: I made a super I made a wrong decision. I
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  Speaker 1: did because Empire actually gave Match the same deal with Columbia.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be major. It didn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense. But now can you explain to everybody who
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  Speaker 1: listening to the difference that you learned between major and independence? Yes, Major,
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  Speaker 1: you know all your masters or nothing like that. Distribution
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  Speaker 1: is just you know, they give you funds to put
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  Speaker 1: out whatever you distribute and through them like like marketing
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  Speaker 1: or studio signed. But that both okay, it's actually both.
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  Speaker 1: In the advance, yeah, it's everything. It's everything. A label.
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  Speaker 1: Dou is just but there's no record stores now like
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  Speaker 1: when I was younger, you know you would get distributions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're wearing Walmart wherever. So now the question is this,
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  Speaker 1: and I hate to be the devil for the record labels,
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  Speaker 1: is like, what role are you really playing when you
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  Speaker 1: have an artist like yourself that has this yeah and
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  Speaker 1: can sell his own music and fill his own show
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  Speaker 1: the seats at his shows, like, um, some artists maybe
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  Speaker 1: be needing the bag sometimes and then some artists be
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  Speaker 1: getting the results. And then some artists do us for
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  Speaker 1: different reasons. I feel like sometimes every they don't every
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  Speaker 1: art and then a lot of these artists I feel like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say I feel like because that's very opinion.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of people tell me like I'm one
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  Speaker 1: of the smartest guys, like young guys, don't safe that
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  Speaker 1: just that's doing music because I don't know just I'll
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  Speaker 1: be thinking different. I'd be thinking like this, does this
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  Speaker 1: make sense business business wise and all that. I'll be
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  Speaker 1: like it, actually think about that type of stuff. Some
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  Speaker 1: people do it fuss money, you might get a two
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  Speaker 1: all events. They ain't worry about if their music blow
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  Speaker 1: they're like, dang, I was just broke my problem. But
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  Speaker 1: now the two hundred thousand all about back right through
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  Speaker 1: your Well what impart is very simple? A is uh,
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  Speaker 1: whatever music you distribute, that's the only way they can
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  Speaker 1: get their money back from you. Oh not shows, not shows,
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  Speaker 1: not none of that. Yeah, do we hear that in
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  Speaker 1: your music? Like your business stuff? Are you not? Really?
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  Speaker 1: But you here? You here hot intelligent. I don't people
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  Speaker 1: be like, man, you're different. You do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you'll ever go that route of breaking down the map
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  Speaker 1: on because that's a that's a huge story, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I always see the rappers and I even seen in
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  Speaker 1: your videos like you showcase all from the money and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but the behind the scenes is also so
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  Speaker 1: important that to see that you're managing their own career,
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  Speaker 1: paying attention, not any mortal question and Carter here, okay
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  Speaker 1: for management. But at first it was a lot. But
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  Speaker 1: that's I was doing it all by myself, so it
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  Speaker 1: was way harder. I would say it was way harder,
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  Speaker 1: and it was way more like um, it was way
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  Speaker 1: more learning process. I got all my experience from like
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  Speaker 1: just doing it alone going wrong, like still not because
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  Speaker 1: you know when you do. You are altaist. You really
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  Speaker 1: got too much management power to make power move you
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  Speaker 1: just the artist, And it's easy for somebody in position
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  Speaker 1: to say nah when going your way. So what do
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  Speaker 1: you do with your first sex? I got me a
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  Speaker 1: place to love. I help my mom got with which
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  Speaker 1: she needed. Uh not a fact, That's really what I did.
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  Speaker 1: I held my I bought me a car. I carried
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  Speaker 1: it out on the car. What kind of car? Mustang?
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  Speaker 1: It was funny seven, it was funny eight thing. I
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  Speaker 1: bought a twenty eight team convertible Mustang. Um, I heard
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  Speaker 1: my mama take a She got a massive degree to
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  Speaker 1: be in college, but he couldn't really afford it, like
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  Speaker 1: for for and she needed money for this test and
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  Speaker 1: I gave her some money and she asked to graduated college.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, that's amazing. How do you feel feel good?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't feel like you no other way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I ain't really bragg him, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like That's what I posted through Connor.
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  Speaker 1: She would have did it for me. So do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like people arrived as an artist? Arriving? Still arriving,
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  Speaker 1: still arriving like there's more miles songs you'd like to hit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you hit some of the major ones already. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I did a couple of things, but not a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things. What would you say is the hardest? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I just had my first arena show, you know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how many people are about for a thogo when you
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  Speaker 1: feel it? Yeah? Wow, that's amazing. Did you have other
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  Speaker 1: people on the show with you? Yeah? Right, Way was
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  Speaker 1: on the show. He was actually the headline for real,
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  Speaker 1: for real. But the feedback I'm getting like I had
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  Speaker 1: a real good stew I'm gonna just say that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the feedback I'm getting I had a really show. So
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  Speaker 1: what was like the hardest things? And you had to go,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry the smoke. You know, what's the hardest thing
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  Speaker 1: you have to go through so far in your career? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: trying to manage myself, I was saying, trying to make
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  Speaker 1: moves myself. That's probably the hardest thing. Would you say,
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  Speaker 1: thank your hardest, sorry guys, your hardest um smile phones,
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  Speaker 1: or your in your career or in your personal? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Well that's in my career trying to managine myself, but um,
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  Speaker 1: my heart is probably personal because I'm still human. Your
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  Speaker 1: career always go work. I could be big tomorrow, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting support, so I ain't never don't too much
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  Speaker 1: be like I'm grateful. Just oh dagn this ain't working
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  Speaker 1: right now because I see the process. I see him
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  Speaker 1: getting big every day. I don't really be triggering, but
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  Speaker 1: like probably personally, like, can you give us like an example, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like my well, my mama she more, she ain't more healthier,
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  Speaker 1: but like my pops, he still got that BEETI city
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  Speaker 1: this day. You just got out to the hospital like yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: So like stuff like that. Uh, me helping out like
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  Speaker 1: hand bills and stuff like that for pops and moms.
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  Speaker 1: I got brothers and stuff like that. Are you the
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  Speaker 1: main source of income for your family? No? But I
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  Speaker 1: always feel like as long as I'm doing something, uh,
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  Speaker 1: as long as I'm doing something positive and generating money,
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  Speaker 1: I should always be other help. Maybe she give us
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  Speaker 1: two more pieces. Yeah, we're gonna need a third for later.
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  Speaker 1: But um, I want to try this. Yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be rough. I'm getting your guys. I'm getting it
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  Speaker 1: there smoking like I don't want to say at a barbecue,
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  Speaker 1: I got to kiss smoking, hold on little it's down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit though, Yeah, I don't want to set
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  Speaker 1: off on sprinkling. So your single's blowing up right now,
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  Speaker 1: what can we expect like in a few tire for you, uh,
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  Speaker 1: some more singles blowing up? But for real? Uh, just
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  Speaker 1: me evolving, don't get knowledge to different different media sources
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  Speaker 1: and even TV and stuff like that is evolving as
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  Speaker 1: a all right, So tell me something that we don't
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  Speaker 1: know about you. Uh uh. I don't know why, but
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  Speaker 1: I just bought my first bed, keen bed in my house. Right,
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  Speaker 1: I had a CAREERIB since I got signed the first time, right,
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  Speaker 1: but I was sleeping on the same bed my mama
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  Speaker 1: brought me since sixth grades. I felt like a twitter
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  Speaker 1: or something like a full size frame though or was
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  Speaker 1: it weeks ago? Like literally, I promise you huh didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a bad frame and it was a good bed.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great bed. It had a bad frame, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like it was a good bed. But I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 1: I got all this money and I'm just but i'd
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  Speaker 1: never be at home too though. He'd be like that,
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  Speaker 1: that's cool. Actually that's something I would have never even thought.
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  Speaker 1: I just took it up. Feel me, you did Prussia
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  Speaker 1: camera time? All right? Then you how to get your bread?
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  Speaker 1: All right? We're looking real smooth. So I put it
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  Speaker 1: on there. I could really see you making this like
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  Speaker 1: every day. You can see me making this every day. Hunh.
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  Speaker 1: Why it look too good at something? It's like a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: go to It's it's easy. You got a lot of making. See.
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  Speaker 1: If you got this problem like this, you just fold
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  Speaker 1: it up so it can fit your bread. You see
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You don't want too less avacan though,
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  Speaker 1: because you would be like, damn, you know bread. Remove
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: that from the hot burner because I feel like it's
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: we're smoking. Slide it over. Yeah, don't touch that. Don't
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  Speaker 1: touch it. It is this. It's just because it's so hot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna touch you. I ain't crazy. I burned
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  Speaker 1: myself out a long time ago. I'll take that one. Yeah,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you can take that one. There he goes my first
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  Speaker 1: thank you. So I'm guessing this is how you do
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  Speaker 1: your dish. You got your chips on the side. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta have a spicy chips, any kind of spicy chips.
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  Speaker 1: It's a going You gotta have a power way to
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  Speaker 1: me lecture lighted something that's gonna, you know, really smooth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal some of yours and drink this water
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  Speaker 1: to something here that's cool. You don't try to pick
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  Speaker 1: some of the fat off like this, right, Yeah, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I do, definitely. Damn, Oh, this one's not that fatty though, Yeah, yours,
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  Speaker 1: I fix sure, it's good. I should have deep pop
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  Speaker 1: on mind. But it's all right, all right, let me
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  Speaker 1: get something actually, or some of your cup first, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I was like, I'm sure he's gonna need
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  Speaker 1: mao butter something. No, none of that. Ain't we have
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  Speaker 1: all that? I really ain't had as much bacon. How
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  Speaker 1: many slices on average? Did you put? Like two? Probably
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  Speaker 1: about two? Probably about three? Three? About three? Max? It's good, awesome,
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  Speaker 1: Here we go the time of truth. Time of truth.
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  Speaker 1: It is a super simple dish. So I have faith
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  Speaker 1: in you alright ready. And even though I think cheese
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: would have been great, but cheese is a luxury, right cheese.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a cheese person, you should have had some
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  Speaker 1: cheese here. Good bacon soundwich, Yeah, it's the spot I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you. I'm telling you. Bacon sound this would go
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  Speaker 1: to it really does? Is bacon and bread and some chips?
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  Speaker 1: Did you give it a look with? You know what?
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  Speaker 1: And first I was like, okay, well here's this Bob.
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  Speaker 1: It's totally it's the spot, the spot, man, I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you you gotta whip it up power right yep. So
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: what's your next milestone? Mm hmm um. Honestly, I'm trying
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: to go Plano plantum right, that's my names mostime, I
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: want one of my riggers to go planning. So I'm
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: gonna definitely put you on the spot. And you can't
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: avoid the question because I know you're in this industry.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Oh m hm. I'm really like, genuinely cares me get
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: another stip? I'm genuinely curious. Who are your top I'm
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: gonna give you up to five favorite rappers in order
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: mm hmm. You can't play some top five just rotating
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and our uh huh. If you want, I could go
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: first to buy you some time to think on my
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: top five to help you out, but that's really helping
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you out. I have to go first, go first, Thank
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you first? Yeah, because I always feel like if you
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: say your top five and then someone may have forgot
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: somebody thought later like that, So you go first. All
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: right problem all time. Hm mhm, better life mm hmm.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I'm let's say Michael Jackson tupap little baby to live baby?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Who who would I say? Like the little baby? Now? Yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: little baby. I had to go from back all the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: way to now from baby a little battery. Mm oh
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you thug, young thug and probably Boost a badass because
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I'm from bad rouge and that's just I'm judging you
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: right now. There's the top five. Yeah, that's my top five.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I gave you two points. I'm gonna give you mine
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and let's see if you still stick with your top five.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick on my top you think so, yeah,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: because I mean I listened to a lot of music.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: But mm hmm, Okay, here we go. I'm gonna give
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: your credit on m J. H. Well, you know what,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: are you sure you don't want to switch on MJ
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: because technically he's not hip hop? So I'll artists, I'll
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: hip hop, hip hop, hip hop, lou Wayne Baby, Little Wayne,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Little Baby, Kode Black, Kevin Gates, and Boost is Okay,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, okay, and y'all can
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: rate this, okay. Um, I'm gonna my team, you know, whatever,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it's up to perspective. But I think you're gonna change
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: after here. Mine, I'm gonna go with I have to
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: go with j because that's my favorite rapper of all time.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Ok Um. I have to go with Drake because I
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: think he's just phenomenal and he creeps up in my
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: my rotation a lot um Little Wayne for sure, just
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: on respect overall, um eminem m okay, and then there's
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: so many greats after that. What was that at for um? Damn,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna mess this up. You didn't say Tupac in
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: your top five just now when you redid it. Yeah,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: it's always hard. It's always hard when someone says five.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with. I mean, there's so many, there
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: could be d M X Tupac. Uh, there's so many.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And then on the female side there's Cardi. I love Cardi. Yeah.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: What do you feel is your biggest threat to your career? Now?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Just I don't know. I can only get in the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: way of was I heeard of me, so I would myself,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: my country get myself was Yeah. I think from hanging
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: out with you, I've learned that you're so versatile and
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: your turnover. It's like you learn a lesson and you're
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: just like, I learned a lesson, I made a mistake,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I moved back, I moved from it, you know. And
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: then the fact that you yourself garnered your own career,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: fighting for your own dreams. It's really cool. What advice
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: would you give to someone that's following behind you. Y'all
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: told him, never stopped. They will stop working and just
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: keep working. There's always somebody who just have a moment
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and they stopped. Yeah, they see something go wrong and
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: they stopped. They give all, they discouraged thing, they're not
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: excited about whatever, they whatever goal is they trying to meet.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: So I just tell me, just keep working. Yeah, I
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: always keep working. What I thought was interesting when I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: was trying to book you with your team, one of
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the things that stood out was we were trying to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: figure out whether to do a morning interview or afternoon interview. Now,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: most rappers always it's like late interviews slash possible cancelations
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: just unfortunately they just the missfights or whatever, and it's
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: just something I got used to. But what was interesting
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: about your team was they were like, um, we can
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: do eight in the morning. Jay will go Jay's j
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: will Ja doesn't miss his stuff. They're like, it doesn't
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: matter what hour we could book him, And I thought
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that was different, Like the way they were talking about
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: your work ethic. I'm available and tell them unavailable, Like
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: if I'm just booked, if I'm booked every alway and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I can't, then that's the point where I say, I
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: can't make it. Yeah it ain't gonna work, but I'm working.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I ain't missing nothing nothing that's for me, you know
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was step with my journey, like
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it was still count So I just you know, this
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: experience I've never been even on even for yeah, but
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I just want my baking up on that. Yeah, Like
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I don't miss. I only trying to miss too much
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: stuff for me because I know sometimes to just be
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: one in a lifetime chance sometimes and then after that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: chance you take and they go, well, now you've got
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a hundred more chances other than that chance you took.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Now you've got zero chances. And another stereotype that I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: hate to do two rappers in general is the whole
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: smoking or drinking, and you don't you're definitely not high,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: so you don't do any of that. I mean, I smoke,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: but I don't when I have to be, when I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: have to present myself, I'm always presumable, and I'm not
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: gonna you know what I'm saying, because it's just too
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know people people people looking for that, you
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like you say, I ain't drunk,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you could tell like I'm just chilling. People always see that,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: So I just do it on my own time for real,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: for real. Okay, do you feel like hip hop's definitely
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: stepping away from from because there was a point where
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: hip hop was like we Chris Stall and all that stuff.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like hip hops evolved so far away
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: from that because I feel like all these rappers now
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: have their own and like you own your own lane,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you know, but there's no more push of the alcohol
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: or the vices I feel, you know, yeah, because it
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: is more I ain't gonna see. It's all the way
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: just far away from me because a lot of rappers
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: every almost every rapper smoke, almost every rapper drink. But
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I've been meeting more rappers like, oh no, I don't smoke, bro,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I'm good, And they'd be like, hello, who have you met?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: So far that shocked you. That doesn't smoke. Oh, it's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a guy named Playboy. He's from my city. He also
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like multi gold and platinum, so he he also artists,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: not to like you got a couple of ruggers going
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: on going in, but he smoked like a drink. Like
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: he'd be like, bro, I ain't trying to I to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: be like, bro, all right, it's cool. I'll be like
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: all right, Now, have you met or worked with like
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: your dream person that you wanted to work with or
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: is there someone on the line up that you do
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: want to work with? Yeah, like the Little Baby somebody
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: like that. Ain't gonna lot like he inspired me, like
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: anybody any I'm gonna say you, this is anybody who
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: like doing good consistently, Like I like make the Stallion
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: CARDI b Megos, they successful, anybody that's successful and they
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: did they they for show, like yeah they certified for show. Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: It just inspired me so like and you kind of
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: come from the same background where you built your own audience. Yeah,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: she's smooth. She did she had to do. I respect that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like that? And Rouge supports you for
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: some people that arena show that I just had the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: first time they support me. Yeah, yeah, they support me.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: At first, it was like, huh, it would be hard,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: like I'll be back home and they would be like
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: sometimes scared to support me, like or they'll be like
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I was scared to ask you for a picture because
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know bad rules, just way totally different ages.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: All friendly and sweet is not? Its completely the opposite.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: So everybody like just on their own time and still
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: but they really used to be like, man, I thought
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: you was gonna be mad if I asked for a picture,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: like scared to support it. They probably do it on
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: their own time. But but the rend of show it
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: showed me like, all right, they don't. They don't care.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Have your friends switched up at all? Um? Yeah, I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: may not know, not my real friends, but who I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: thought that was friends? Because you have two different types
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: of switch ups. You have to switch up where they're like, um,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: they act like you owe them something. But then you
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: also have to switch up where people that are your
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: friends are afraid to call your phone. They're like, I
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: didn't want to bother yoursel so big. Now you know,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: do you have both or do you just have the ladder? Yeah?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Even my mama would do that sometimes I thought you
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: was busy on call. I'll be like, what's wrong with
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: you to call me? But yeah, I got a lot
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: of that going on though, But I don't be too mad, dude.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I called up. I called my friends whenever I'm thinking
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: about it, or my mom or whoever, who all, who
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: ever feel like that. I just always make sure I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: get him a call tool, because if you don't call,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: then it is way easier for them to say, yeah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: he's busy. You ain't talk to him in three months.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: He ain't called me. He's too way too busy he is.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You can't reach you no more. So I always just
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: called back home, whoever, my friends, my real friends, even
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: if they don't you know what I'm saying here my
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: phone or what though. Yeah, I saw this thing on
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: CARDI B. I think it was yesterday or one of
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the days. She had a birthday party for her daughter
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and she just went on there. It was like, if
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you're related to me, if you came out of my
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: grandma's coach, you know, just DM me and I will
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: send you the information, like you know, like I may
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: forget who to send it. That was so real, because
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that is an actual problem that people face when they
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: blow up. It's like all of a sudden, people are like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: well maybe you forgot about me, or or maybe I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't invited, and it just get famous. It's so many
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: people they be they be looking like man, so many people.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: He don't even know who I am. Normal, like bro,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I know who you like that? Yeah, yeah exactly. But
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: but I think it's cool that you know you've got
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you and she you guys take the extra step to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: like reach out or say you know I'm here. But
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it is an additional responsibility. M. But anyways, thank you
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: so much for feeding me today. This sandwich is pretty good.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I was yapping you ate all yours. Yeah, so this
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: is my meal for today. I really had a struggle
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: meal today. It's my lunch. M. It's delicious. Um. Thank
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: you again for taking the time after day eating your
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: first meal for shore for the day. Now, I know
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I appreciate. I don't need eggs and cheese. Eggs and cheese,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I said, I won't need him. Oh, I was about
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to say, I think I said you don't eat eggs
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and cheese. I was about to say, you know what
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like if you know I'm running short on
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: groceries and bacon and bread. I could be like up
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: that Obian special. I'll call it special, and you guys
• 34:40
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• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Wall Broke, which is really simple. Obviously, bread and bacon.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: You're pretty good to go. Thank you so much. I
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: gotta make that bacon right though. Yep. For more Eating
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