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- Mark Hayes (00:01.134) All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. If you missed the breaking news, the Supreme Court hollowed out a landmark law that had protected minority voting rights for not four, not five, but six decades. Welcome back to Two Men in Black and White. I'm your host, Mark Hayes, along with my co-host, Brock and Ellis. Two Men in Black and White, an honest conversation where we look at the political shit show happening to our country right now through our respective community lenses. The Black. and Jewish American communities. Brock, it's time for black folks to get off the sideline and start making some real noise here. Those six lunatics on the Supreme Court are just awful. They are literally the devil's spawn, including Clarence. And he has not been a part of the black delegation since the Anita Hill hearings and his confirmation. Brock Ganeles (00:55.766) Well... glad you brought up the idea of having to come off the sidelines because this is such a deep reach right into the black community and a distant, you know, I mean, this is just like state sponsored disenfranchisement. You know, was one thing, right? The DEI being rolled back, fucking with your economics and your educational opportunities. And now, you know, going after the fundamental right to vote. wasn't it interesting as two states, both Louisiana and Tennessee, Louisiana put a Mark Hayes (01:05.079) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (01:27.673) to primaries that had already started mail-in voting to maybe redraw some maps. Tennessee's gonna try to redraw some maps. So you didn't think that MAGA World and Project 2025 was gonna take anything laying down. So as soon as California and Virginia tip the balance, MAGA World comes fighting back hard. Mark Hayes (01:29.537) Immediately. Bye. Mark Hayes (01:52.012) Yep. Remember the huge swing, but a whiff that we saw in Tennessee. They saw the tide changing there. What was it like a 30 point swing? Brock Ganeles (02:06.422) Yeah, I it was 31 points actually in the end. Mark Hayes (02:09.358) Yeah, and we didn't win, but it was a lot of lost ground there when you look at the Red Party. don't know, what are they? Conservative, Republican, MAGA? It's just MAGA, right? Because not at all, not at all. 22 % of the US population is MAGA, but that's 50 % of the Republican Party. Brock Ganeles (02:21.315) It ain't conservative. It ain't conservative. Mark Hayes (02:37.984) I don't know what other way there is for them to cede control of this nation than to steal elections. And that's exactly what we're witnessing right here in real time. Brock Ganeles (02:52.884) Yeah, the whole wait for the elections crew, you know, it's got to be ready for a fight. Everyone's going to have to fight for the registration to vote. Everyone's going to fight to find a polling place that they can vote at. And everyone's going to have to fight to make sure that their vote is counted. Right? Like absolutely nothing will be able to be taken for granted. The one thing that might backfire on Mago world is as they redraw districts, they kind of tend to thin out their advantage a little bit because they scoop in some democratic districts and they think they're going to win. But the needle has swung pretty hard to, you know, a good 20 points in a lot of places to where they may overshoot and actually shoot themselves in the foot. But in the meantime, before we learn that. Mark Hayes (03:23.723) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (03:42.154) They're just going to try to rig this deck as much as possible. And like you said at the top, Supreme Court's totally on board with it. So rule of law, as we've said many times, absolutely gone. Mark Hayes (03:55.38) out the window. Brock, this is not just the rule of law. This is one of the most consequential, one of the greatest legislative landmarks in American history, the right to vote for African Americans. You know, at the time I was born, my parents didn't have the legal right to vote. A lot of our parents didn't have. the legal rights. This is not ancient history. This is within my lifetime. Right? The 1964 Voting Rights Act. America's greatest legislative landmark to date, LBJ, was the one who championed it, got it done, got it over the hump. You know, I'm a huge consternation. and rebellion from white America, but it was still signed into law. And at that time, it was the biggest, most consequential conversation we'd ever had on race. Brock Ganeles (05:12.798) Until now. Where that conversation is being flipped on its head and we have a government that basically is telling the country that it that it's a white supremacist power structure and that no one else really belongs here who has the same rights. As you were saying it, I was like, well, what an embarrassment that the country had gone for like its first one hundred and ninety years without. Mark Hayes (05:14.274) Hmm. Brock Ganeles (05:39.591) equal rights, equal voting rights that everyone had to fight for them, right? Women had to fight for them. Black women had to fight for them. You know, these are all hard fought rights, but now we have a white supremacy movement that wants to roll them back because they they can't win otherwise, right? They have to shrink the pool of voters down to in essence, pretty much only white people in order to continue to maintain power in the way that they want it. It's I mean, Mark Hayes (05:56.012) Right. Mark Hayes (06:07.457) Right. Brock Ganeles (06:09.846) I mean, you can blame all six of the Supreme court justices and a heritage, Leon, Leon, Leo, or whatever, who was behind and Mitch McConnell, who was behind sort of stacking this court, but God, Clarence Thomas has probably been the worst black American in the history of the country in terms of the impact that he's had on other black citizens. Mark Hayes (06:29.522) Judas. Mark Hayes (06:37.038) Meanwhile, he's in Easton's health. Brock Ganeles (06:37.604) He's got me as like number one. Mark Hayes (06:41.25) He is public enemy number one for Black America. Regardless of whether you know his name or not, he's made your life exponentially more difficult by voting in lockstep with racist, evil, diabolical, I would even say, lawmakers who have sought to... make the African-American contribution to our history and to the construction of this country null and void. And he doesn't want you to get any further than you possibly could have gotten. He doesn't want any assistance for you when it comes to the kinds of things this government should be providing. for the people who built this country for free. We built this shit for free. Everybody's gotten reparations except for black America. The last remaining Wall Street, Tulsa, black Wall Street survivor couldn't get reparations and we know the impact now of what that cost, that community and this country. There was a hotel there that was destroyed that probably would have rivaled the Hilton hotel chain had it been allowed to survive. And if you don't believe me, go back and Google it and read it yourself. There were banks, there were laundromats, cleaners. Every business you could imagine was self-contained on Black Wall Street in order for it to exist away from white America. And white America still was not happy. So they destroyed it and burned it down. this is, and Clarence Thomas is an accomplice of white supremacism. Brock Ganeles (08:42.384) I I'm really hoping that this triggers like a massive, you know. voter registration movement and voter turnout movement in the black community where it's kind of like, you know, fuck you. You're trying to take away a right to vote. it just motivates anyone and everyone who ever was complacent about showing up in the ballot box and everyone fights for this right. And, you know, to and fights for the right to implement change in the country. I'm hoping that's the outcome. We're for 24 hours into it right now. It's just a bunch of, know, anger. I hope it fuels that. But I also think this action by the Supreme Court and the fact that it even got to the Supreme Court To me, it just debunks so many false theories and so many false theories that people in the white America, complacent white America, liberal white America, independent middle of the road white America have wanted to cling on to so that they can feel better about ourselves and about our country. Number one, and this hits Bernie right in the nose. And you know, I love Bernie Sanders in general, but it Mark Hayes (09:58.87) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (09:59.113) America is not just it's not just a class war. We don't just have a class problem. It's not just about unions and the working class banding together against the oligarchs because that working class is not banned together. We saw it when the unions wouldn't endorse Kamala Harris despite the fact that she and Biden were out walking the picket lines, but they couldn't come around and endorse her. I wonder why. Right. And we said that, you know, Mark Hayes (10:03.99) No! Mark Hayes (10:14.754) Mm-mm. Mark Hayes (10:26.615) Cool. Brock Ganeles (10:29.076) back when when it was going on that it's much bigger race runs much deeper than class it's much more inbred in people's thinking and their social status in the country and America has a race problem and a class problem but never again do I want to hear anyone say we just have a class problem Mark Hayes (10:49.964) Yep. Mark Hayes (10:55.306) No, no, because it's much deeper than that, right? And a lot of our class warfare is determined by race, right? I mean, it all starts with race and then it moves down to class. And, you know, that's why we are worth, you know, 1 17th of the average white family. And it's getting worse. after what Doji did to us and the muskrats and what Donald Trump in Project 2025 continue to do to us on a daily basis. And that's one of the things that I don't think America understands fully. Project 2025 and ALEC, the American Legislative Executive Council, or whoever they are who make these laws that end up punishing Black people way more harshly than they do white people, are some of those unseen forces that we have not educated ourselves enough about. And we continue to see mass numbers of African Americans caught up in mass incarceration, continuing. to fill the coffers of the prison industrial complex and continuing to provide cheap labor or no cost labor in some instances for these major corporations, AT &T, Victoria's Secret, Walmart, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. There are so many on the list. Idaho Potatoes is another one, all backed by prison labor. And, you know, Brock, until Black America decides to get up off its tail and get in this fight. And, you know, we don't we don't have to die in order to be in this fight. What we've got to do is take a page out of Dr. King's book, right, and create a nonviolent movement. Mark Hayes (12:57.142) Right? Because we don't want to smoke with the Trump administration because they're going to shoot first and ask no questions. Right? There won't be any investigations. There won't be any, you know, any, any, you know, post mortems. There won't be anything except dead bodies. And we're going to have to. beat them at their own game. And that is a lot of that is contained in what you said, getting out there to vote, making sure your registration is good, bringing someone with you, register everybody you know. you know, especially when we see organizations like the SPLC being indicted, right? And then we've got these Trumpsters on the court. you know, just go ahead and they just go ahead and gut, you know, the most consequential legislation ever signed on Capitol Hill. Brock Ganeles (13:55.413) It's just going to have to get embedded into people's conversations and just be a part of the entire vibe. Like, Hey, are you registered? Are you voting? Did you vote? Are you coming with me? Like just, it's going to have to be like, there's almost going to have to be a shame and embarrassment factor for those that aren't registered or fighting for their registration to where there's a sense that they're letting other people down if they don't fight for their right to vote. We're to have to get that kind of positive peer pressure. movement going so that it just is you're almost like an outcast if you're Deem yourself, you know, deem yourself too lazy to go Take the steps necessary You're not willing to fight the fight for that right to vote because so many people have fought so hard for it and the only way to get it back for the next generation is to change who's in power and codify these laws even deeper so that they're harder to uproot. And you can't just be one fucking delusional fanatical, you know, dementia-ridden racist and, you know, fucking manifesto behind them to change almost like every fucking law in America. Mark Hayes (15:07.572) Right, right. It's frightening what we're doing right now. And quite frankly, I'm shocked that there is so little outrage. There just is no outrage. And I sent you that Ted Autette between Eddie Gillott and Stephanie Ruhl on MS Now. And Eddie Gallaud was saying that the racism that the MAGA party has is not why they voted for Donald Trump. And he says he doesn't believe that. He says they voted for him because they are racist. Stephanie Brewell was saying that's not why they voted for him. They voted for him because their lives were getting too damn expensive. And Eddie Gallaud said he just couldn't believe that. And I'm with Eddie Glott on this, right? I mean, it's always been the racism for these folks. Brock Ganeles (16:14.524) It was a it was that was a great like one or two minute clip and you know my first reaction to you was this is why there's no black and white co-hosts because Stephanie Ruhl just somewhere in her psyche she did not want to acknowledge and admit the deep seated racism that has been and still exists in America and that that drives people's behavior. She wanted to believe it was the price of eggs. It would make her feel better if it was the affordability issue that drove the voting. But we're talking about 250 years now. So it's always another issue, right? They've been voting the racism even when there was affordability, right? It wasn't the price of eggs that changed things. Mark Hayes (16:43.724) Yeah. If it was the price of eggs. Mark Hayes (16:52.183) Right. Mark Hayes (17:01.687) Right. Brock Ganeles (17:02.046) They're racist. They see a racist leader in Trump. They're allowed to be even more overtly racist now. They don't have hide it as much anymore. It's been mainstreamed. And that's what drives it. It's the social capitalism that comes with the hierarchy of America. Yeah, they're aggravated and annoyed and unhappy about the fact that prices are going up, but they're voting for fucking Donald Trump anyway. Mark Hayes (17:12.928) Mm-hmm Mark Hayes (17:29.652) no doubt. Brock Ganeles (17:29.942) They just wanted to give an excuse that sounded better, that made them feel better, and it made the Stephanie Wolves of the world feel better, and Stephanie just couldn't get there. And it's like, feel sorry for her listening to her. It's like, OK, but because you can't get there, we can't fix this problem because people like you won't acknowledge the problem. Mark Hayes (17:35.266) Well, you're home. Mark Hayes (17:39.351) No? Mark Hayes (17:49.313) Right. And that's the issue. And Stephanie Ruehl, God love her, know, really good journalist, great at the economic stuff. But, you know, she's like most of white America, right? Can't see the forest through the trees and doesn't understand, you know, how powerful the forces of racism are. And that's exactly what we're looking at here. The inability for people to say, you know what? If everybody was adequately represented in our democracy, it would still be fair. White America doesn't want a fair democracy. White America wants a democracy where they're in charge and they decide what's fair and what's not. And that's the issue we're having right here, especially for MAGA. You all this America first bullshit, you know, is America first while we're bombing Iran? Is America first when we're taking up a war for Bibi Netanyahu? Is it America first when Vladimir Putin tells us, don't help Ukraine? Like, this is America first bullshit is nonsense, right? But it's just something these these MAGA folks got to tell themselves when they're trying to, you know, contort themselves into all kinds of pretzels to make it make sense. Brock Ganeles (19:11.402) They can mentally twist themselves to get there, right? You can find a justification. Iran's been coming after us for death to America for 49 years and they were going to get a nuclear weapon. Okay, that justifies that one. Israel's our only ally in the region. We got to back Israel all the way against those brown people around them, those terrorists that they're surrounded by. Okay, justified that one. You know, the Russia one gets to me is the hardest because it's white on white, right? It gets the, that one gets the trickiest because Mark Hayes (19:27.854) you Mark Hayes (19:37.995) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (19:41.825) pretty much an entire generation, multiple generations of people were grown up anti Russia and they were the great evil and our number one threat. So of all of them, that's the hardest one, I think, to justify Russia against the democratic state. White on and when it's white on white, so there's no racist play there. The other two have an easy racist play. Mark Hayes (19:59.009) Right. Mark Hayes (20:04.512) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (20:06.57) But that, yeah, but there's a constant mental gymnastics that has to go on. Cause think about how much avoidance Stephanie Ruhl had to go through to not acknowledge that racism was the driving factor basically in America, right? We're sitting, she was sitting there discussing the rolling back of the voting rights act. We still didn't want to go there and wanted to like buy. Mark Hayes (20:14.264) Mm-hmm. Mark Hayes (20:20.609) Yeah. Mark Hayes (20:27.307) Right. Brock Ganeles (20:31.38) bifurcate that from the vote for Trump and try to pretend like that was for economic reasons. But by the way, 16 months later, we just happened to come around to stripping voting rights away. Mark Hayes (20:44.654) You're right. Brock Ganeles (20:45.36) as if the two things weren't related at all. And there was no project 2025 and MAGA movement and white supremacists and all that stuff. Like she doesn't know, she doesn't notice, she doesn't notice Trump's administration is like all white people. Like she just, you can't be that oblivious to the world around you unless you're trying to be, because it makes you feel better. Mark Hayes (20:51.811) Bye. Mark Hayes (20:55.278) They're good at all papers, Stephanie! Mark Hayes (21:08.5) Exactly. And unfortunately, you know, she's trying to make herself feel better about herself. And, you know, I mean, nobody is saying that, you know, she's practicing racism, but in a way she is really, you know, moving the needle on it because she is rolling with it. Brock Ganeles (21:29.622) She's rolling with it. She's rolling along with it. It's really hard for white people to acknowledge racism. They just don't like to because they feel like in some respect it takes away from themselves. They haven't achieved as much. They haven't done as much. They're not as good as they think they are or want to be. And I don't understand that. I'm an outlier. I don't understand it. I don't understand why. Mark Hayes (21:42.956) Yeah. Mark Hayes (21:54.69) Me neither. Brock Ganeles (21:58.41) how you can not just recognize something that's so fucking obvious right in front of you and why you have to feel like it takes away from you to acknowledge it when you don't feel that way about other aspects of your life. Mark Hayes (22:04.718) Well. Mark Hayes (22:14.35) And need Right. And Brock, I don't sit here and say I'm not on TV anymore because of the man. Right. Systemic racism didn't take me off TV. I took myself off. Right. I'm not sitting here blaming, you know, the man or whoever undercover brother was going after in the movie. Right. I'm just not. I'm not going to do it. I got other stuff to do. I have another purpose. And, you know, because systemic racism exists, doesn't mean we're pointing a finger at anyone in particular. You know, it always kills me when I hear white people say, well, you know, we didn't own any slaves. No, but you benefited from those who did. Okay, let's just. Brock Ganeles (22:58.933) Yeah, and you live in a society that allowed it and allowed it to be legal and created an entire economic and social hierarchy around it. Mark Hayes (23:02.924) Great. Great. Mark Hayes (23:11.596) Behind it, yep. Brock Ganeles (23:12.979) And so, yeah, maybe we were born into that. That's how I always feel. I was born into that. I had no say of anything that happened prior to me coming onto this earth. could only only can look at, OK, then what did I do after I got here? And I'll be the first to acknowledge. Not enough. Not enough. OK. Mark Hayes (23:25.806) you Mark Hayes (23:30.583) Right. Brock Ganeles (23:36.864) All right, well, I got some time left, right? There's still more to be done, right? Books not written. I don't understand why everyone just doesn't look at their life that way and just be like, books not written. I hope Stephanie Ruhl walked off that set and then drove home in her car, you know, and thought about the conversation she had just been in and reevaluates how she looks at things. I hope she learned from that. Mark Hayes (23:39.982) Yeah. Mark Hayes (23:53.39) Right. Mark Hayes (23:59.404) Okay. Right. Brock Ganeles (24:05.291) Discussion with Eddie wad I'm not optimistic because I don't think people Learn unless they want to are open To learning but maybe you know, maybe Maybe it's gonna hit her a little bit differently and maybe she's gonna function a little bit differently going forward I mean, I would I would hope it's just not that fucking hard It's just not that hard Mark Hayes (24:13.421) Right. Mark Hayes (24:34.658) Right. Brock Ganeles (24:35.191) It's as obvious, acknowledge it, think about it, think about how you live your life, you know? And you're still gonna be, you know, I'm still advantaged by the society I'm in. I still say and do racist shit sometimes that's so embedded in me, and I still do it, you know? It's... Mark Hayes (24:46.51) I'm ready. Mark Hayes (24:52.248) Hold on, hold on, bro. We gotta pick it up at that point. It got kicked off the seat. It's uploading on my, okay. Brock Ganeles (24:56.629) No, we're still alive, we're rolling. What's that? We're rolling. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (25:04.181) Yeah. So I think so. So look, I just don't think it's that hard. And this is my appeal to like white America. just take yourself out of it. Stop thinking that in any way it's going to diminish you. Mark Hayes (25:06.83) Okay, yeah, so. Brock Ganeles (25:21.075) Yes, in America, particularly the racism against black people is the worst, but then take it a step further and start thinking about the biases against LGBTQ people and why you carry that and, you know, or sometimes, you know, against Latinos and why they're now being rounded up by ICE and like the fact that we have these fucking concentration camps filled with Latinos all over the country. What are we doing? How do you feel? Mark Hayes (25:34.478) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (25:50.969) You know, think about that. Mark Hayes (25:52.206) But Brock, remember what I said when we first started seeing ice snatching and disappearing on Dino's? I said, look at white America. They're upset about this. But white America said we should have complied when we were, you know, unalived when we were unarmed by police officers. It was a totally different reaction. And I can't understand why white America doesn't want us to be a contributing part of this society if they had their way. Like, I don't understand. Because white America gets an opportunity or black America gets an opportunity doesn't mean white America loses one. There's enough to go around. There is plenty of money out here for people, for all of us to make a good living. And you know, again, Brock, we're not asking for pie in the sky. We're not asking for everything. You know? Brock Ganeles (26:54.807) Yeah, now you just want to be able to vote, right? Now you just want to be able to fucking vote in a democracy. Mark Hayes (27:01.345) I mean, call me crazy for wanting to be able to cast my ballot for the person I would like to represent me in a democracy in 2026. We're going fucking back. This guy's taking us fucking backwards like nobody's business. Brock Ganeles (27:16.919) in a country that always harkens back to the great founding fathers who wrote all men are created equal. And you got to fight for the right to vote in a country that has pounded its chest about being the greatest democracy and greatest nation ever conceived. I mean, we've gone to the nth degree in terms of how positive we've been about ourselves. Mark Hayes (27:22.443) Right. But they wrote it. All Mark Hayes (27:36.703) Right. Mark Hayes (27:44.487) Exactly. I mean, we call ourselves the greatest nation in the world, but yet one in every five of the world's prisoners resides right here in the United States. Right? We have 20 % of the world's prison population. Brock Ganeles (27:53.835) Yeah, we get it, we get it. Brock Ganeles (27:59.288) That's why we gotta fight for the vote left and right because we have to absolutely revolutionize America. I mean, there's no going back. I think that consensus has sort of been coming around that there has to be like a new version that's created that's better going forward. Um, I think that's where the push is going to be. There's just so much to overcome and how so much damage is going to have to be unraveled, but it'll be worth doing. I think that's where the consensus is. I think that's why candidates like Janet Mills dropped out of her Senate race in Maine because she was getting her ass kicked because they're the democratic party. Certainly just, she had no constituency. She's a Chuck Schumer anointed candidate and Mark Hayes (28:24.653) Hmm. Mark Hayes (28:40.832) No! Mark Hayes (28:45.441) Right. Brock Ganeles (28:46.205) middle of the road, centrist Democrat, she was having her head handed to her. Mark Hayes (28:52.587) Yep. Yep. Brock Ganeles (28:53.429) because that's not where certainly Democratic Party is in with, you know, Janet Mills, you know, one foot in each camp, Maga light, let's play to the middle, Chuck Schumer, strongly worded letters types. So I think that was, that's encouraging when I see that type of candidate get swept aside by the Democrats, cause that tells me the Democrats aren't, the centrists aren't winning. The progressives are the people who are thinking about Mark Hayes (29:06.934) Yeah? Mark Hayes (29:18.976) Right. Brock Ganeles (29:23.723) really changing America in the next iteration are being pushed to the forefront and that old school, cause Janet Mills like 70 fucking something also is being told like, step aside, get out of the fucking way. Chuck Schumer should get out of the way. He should learn that if he's candidate Mark Hayes (29:41.421) and we should be out of there. Brock Ganeles (29:45.301) It was the governor of Maine, can't even get through a primary in Maine that Chuck Schumer, that you are not the leader of anything in the Democratic party. You have no constituency. Mark Hayes (29:52.557) 86, Chuck, no. Not at all. Not at all. All right, buddy, give me a quick hit. Let's get out of here. Brock Ganeles (30:01.815) Tomorrow's May Day. Tomorrow's the day we're supposedly going to have an economic freeze out. And I'm just hoping and praying that people follow through and don't buy from Amazon and don't go to stores and we actually have an economic shock sent through the system. Because... Mark Hayes (30:23.575) Right. Brock Ganeles (30:27.978) I wanna... have the government have to acknowledge the fact that the economy sucks and not have to read bullshit like that Q1 had GDP growth of 2 % which I know is a fucking lie and why anyone believes what's coming out of this fucking Trump administration in terms of economic data is an idiot and the fucking media let us down yet again today by putting those numbers out there as if they were the gospel and just playing along to the propaganda but I want to see the people send some shockwaves so I'll be a part of that tomorrow Mark Hayes (30:39.573) system. Don't go away. Brock Ganeles (30:58.839) be buying shit from anyone, anything, anything economic, not a nickel is coming out of my pocket tomorrow. Mark Hayes (31:00.926) No indeed. Mark Hayes (31:07.197) Absolutely. King Charles headed back home. Was there anything accomplished by his visit aside from Trump saying that King Charles agreed with him on this ridiculous war in Afghanistan and you know the things that have to be... Look, you know, King Charles should have known that... Trump was gonna go off on a tangent while he was standing up there next to him. So you look like you agree with this moron, whether you do or not. I don't think anything was accomplished by this visit. I don't think the American people care. I think the Europeans, the British are going to be more annoyed at the King for even coming and taking an audience with this buffoon. Brock Ganeles (31:59.946) still not sure why he came. They may have thought that he would be like an olive branch to a certain extent, Trump's age. I think he gave a good speech to Congress, that it was laughable that Congress was like giving him standing ovations because he's there telling them that they should be more assertive and Mark Hayes (32:02.133) Nope. Nope. Brock Ganeles (32:21.303) As soon as he walks out of the room, they go back to doing the same shit that they've been doing for the last 16 months, which is rolling along with whatever Trump says. So then they got to have a big dinner where a bunch, know, Bezos and Tim Cook and a bunch of those other fuckers, Ivanka and all those fuckers showed up too. And like it became just the oligarchy event. So, yeah, I'd say in the end that it was much, you know, much ado about nothing. Mark Hayes (32:49.895) Always, always a lot of pop and circumstance, a lot of tax dollars wasted from, you know, a largely ceremonial, you know, figurehead that has nothing really to offer this country and our people at this time. I don't again, I'm with you. I don't know why he came. I don't know what he wanted. I don't know what Trump could have possibly offered because he'd forget as soon as the king you know, moved on to the next topic. Doesn't take him five minutes to forget everything he just talked about. So, you know, I can't see that there was any kind of a win in this for the King and Camilla Parker Bowles coming over here and having to sit with, you know, the former call girl and, you know, his pimpedness, Cheadle Mussolini. So. That's all I got. You got anything else? Alright. Brock Ganeles (33:49.781) Nah, I think we're good. I think we're good, Mark. Always a pleasure. Pick it up again tomorrow. Mark Hayes (33:56.991) Sounds good. Revolution.