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The Late Debate | 6 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately. Welcome to the laitter base.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the late Debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with kayleb Bond and Freyer Leech coming
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  Speaker 3: up tonight. Sadik Kahan promises to show Donald Trump around London,
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  Speaker 3: but wait until you hear how the London mayor describes London.
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  Speaker 3: Plus Family Feud used to be a great family show.
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  Speaker 3: The clue is in the name, but the latest episode
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  Speaker 3: in America has got families calling for a boycott and
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  Speaker 3: trainee solicitors claim the bar exam discriminates against non whites
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  Speaker 3: because it's too difficult, which sounds kind of racist to me.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into that shortly, but first, Melbourne primary school
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  Speaker 3: children are being taught to scold their parents for not
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  Speaker 3: doing enough in the fight against climate change. Idling car
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  Speaker 3: engines at school pickups are contributing to global emissions, and
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  Speaker 3: who better to tackle this existential crisis than nine year
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  Speaker 3: olds who can barely spell emissions but know exactly how
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  Speaker 3: to ruin ap Pearan's day with a climate lecture. Researchers
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  Speaker 3: from Deacon University spent two days teaching kids about the
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  Speaker 3: evils of idling cars at the school gate and providing
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  Speaker 3: them with talking points so.
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  Speaker 2: They can have the chat with mum and dad.
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  Speaker 3: Now we've not seen the talking points, but we imagine
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  Speaker 3: kids were taught to greet mum and dad at the
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  Speaker 3: school gate with something like this, you have.
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  Speaker 4: Stolen my dreams in my childhood with your empty words.
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  Speaker 4: People are suffering, people are dying, and entire ecosystems are collapsing.
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  Speaker 4: We are in the beginning of a mass extinction.
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  Speaker 3: How dare you hand lo The researchers noted a forty
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  Speaker 3: percent drop in idling cars. If my kid came home
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  Speaker 3: as Greta Tongberg, I'd be scared too. The researchers say
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  Speaker 3: the point was to resource kids, who are often anxious
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  Speaker 3: about climate change with tools to do something about it
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  Speaker 3: and therefore feel empowered and less scared. But they also
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  Speaker 3: noted children are very useful in driving behavioral change. So
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  Speaker 3: is this a good thing or is this just another
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  Speaker 3: way kids being turned into activists while failing nap plan Caleb.
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  Speaker 5: How can they argue that it makes the kids less scared,
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  Speaker 5: because you have to scare the kids into thinking that
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  Speaker 5: their parents sitting out the front of the school with
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  Speaker 5: their cars idling is terrible. And going to kill the planet,
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  Speaker 5: so that they then go off and tell them, well, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to leave nothing for me when you leave
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  Speaker 1: this world.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, for goodness, say, climate anxiety in children is
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  Speaker 5: a real thing. It is driven by the curriculum. Climate
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  Speaker 5: is integrated into all parts of the curriculum essentially, and
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  Speaker 5: they do the same with aboriginal affairs.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, even in mathematics and English and whatever.
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  Speaker 5: They're instructed as part of the curriculum to work the
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  Speaker 5: themes of climate change into it. A great research by
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  Speaker 5: the IPA you can find online into this recently.
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  Speaker 1: And this is just a ploy to scare kids further,
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  Speaker 1: not to.
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  Speaker 5: Alleviate any of their concern And I love the idea
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  Speaker 5: that they've finally woken up to the fact that these
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  Speaker 5: eco activists that idling cars is a bad thing, because indeed,
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  Speaker 5: idling cars chew through fuel unnecessarily and they spew stuff out.
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  Speaker 1: Into the atmosphere needlessly.
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  Speaker 5: If only they'd realized that when they were gluing themselves
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  Speaker 5: to the road and forcing cars to sit on roads,
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  Speaker 5: major roads, idling in our capital cities for hours on end.
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  Speaker 1: Think of all the emissions.
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  Speaker 5: And fuel that were burnt, while those you know whatever
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  Speaker 5: they're called, what were the extinction rebellion plea a rising
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  Speaker 5: time blue rinses were gluing themselves to the road. They've
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  Speaker 5: done more to cause idling cars than anyone else.
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  Speaker 6: Look, the part of this that I do like is
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  Speaker 6: that they're teaching kids to take action instead of just
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  Speaker 6: being victims. So tell your parents to turn off the
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  Speaker 6: car instead of just scare them about climate change. But
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  Speaker 6: there are so many other causes you could be teaching
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  Speaker 6: kids about that take far more lives every year than
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  Speaker 6: climate change. We have fifty million people in modern day slavery.
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  Speaker 6: Eighty million people a year die from household pollution from
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  Speaker 6: burning wood and kerosene, three million because they don't have
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  Speaker 6: access to cheap, abundant energy like coal that I'm sure
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  Speaker 6: these eco warriors would like to ban as well. So
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  Speaker 6: there are a lot of problems in our world. Climate
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  Speaker 6: change is a small one in comparison to the massive
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  Speaker 6: issues faced by millions of people every single year.
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  Speaker 3: Forgive me for being cynical, but I don't think the
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  Speaker 3: researchers here, and I don't know the researchers, but I
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  Speaker 3: suspect they're less interested in empowering kids to overcome climate
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  Speaker 3: fear than garnering kids as little activists to get in
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  Speaker 3: the heads of mums and dads, because as we showed them,
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  Speaker 3: and we had a laugh at Greta Tunberg when we watched.
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  Speaker 2: But remember when Greta gave.
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  Speaker 3: That speech and world leaders were like, oh, we've got
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  Speaker 3: to do something because a kid has just told us off.
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  Speaker 3: Kids do have nag power shops. Climate activists know it,
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  Speaker 3: and I suspect that's the real motivation for this.
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  Speaker 6: And also how many of these kids are studying, how
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  Speaker 6: many of these kids are doing their homework, how many
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  Speaker 6: of them are making their beds. Before you try to
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  Speaker 6: fix the world out there, fix your own backyard, fix
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  Speaker 6: your age.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to my sons, please. They need to hear that.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, they say, we're alleviating the fear. They
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  Speaker 5: create the fear. So it's like, I'm going to create
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  Speaker 5: a problem by telling the kids that the world is
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  Speaker 5: going to end because of climate change. And guess what,
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  Speaker 5: I have the solution for your fear, which is to
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  Speaker 5: go and tell your parents to not have their cars
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  Speaker 5: idling at the front of the schools. It is patently
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  Speaker 5: ridiculous and worse than that, it's actually bad for children.
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  Speaker 5: It's introducing ideas into children's brains, particularly primary school aged kids,
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  Speaker 5: that they're just not equipped to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: Leave it for later in school. But how good is this?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you thought that was a funny story. This
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  Speaker 5: one I think takes the cake for tonight. Over in Spain,
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  Speaker 5: a bunch of people just sitting around on the beach having.
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  Speaker 1: A whale of a time. I think they were on.
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  Speaker 5: The Sotillo beach just enjoying themselves, selling and they see
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  Speaker 5: this boat rock up and all these people jump off
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  Speaker 5: the boat, illegal migrants that they then chase down. You
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  Speaker 5: can see the footage there on the screen of an
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  Speaker 5: illegal margrant being chased. That's the boat rocking up to
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  Speaker 5: the beach, and they just watch these illegal migrants brought
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  Speaker 5: in by the people smugglers, jumping off the front of
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  Speaker 5: the boat.
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  Speaker 1: And they're sitting anything.
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  Speaker 5: What on earth is going to these people jumping off
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  Speaker 5: for a swim or something. No, they are illegal migrants
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  Speaker 5: brought in by people smugglers. So the sun loungers on
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  Speaker 5: the beach decided to take matters into their own hands
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  Speaker 5: and tackle them to the ground until the authorities could
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  Speaker 5: come to get them. I suppose you know two things.
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  Speaker 5: One is the just the you know, the fact that
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  Speaker 5: you would even think you could rock up at a
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  Speaker 5: busy beach in Spain and just jump in the water
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  Speaker 5: and walk on land and get away with it. It
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  Speaker 5: probably tells you what they think of the migration laws
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  Speaker 5: in match of Europe. I know we've talked a lot
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  Speaker 5: about the UK recently, but they're trying it on in
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  Speaker 5: other parts.
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  Speaker 1: Of Europe as well, obviously.
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  Speaker 5: But good on these people for taking the initiative to
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  Speaker 5: chase them down and hold them down and get the
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  Speaker 5: authorities involved.
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  Speaker 1: These people deserve medals, well.
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  Speaker 3: They do deserve medals, but it likely made no difference
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  Speaker 3: because after handing these illegal migrants to the authorities, the
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  Speaker 3: authorities would have put them in a luxury coach air conditioned,
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  Speaker 3: driven them to a five star hotel and put them
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  Speaker 3: up for three months at taxpayer expense.
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  Speaker 2: Which explains why you said they're so bold.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's incredible audacity to rock up to a
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  Speaker 3: major beach and just jump into the ocean, as if
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  Speaker 3: you know no one's going to bat an eyelid. But
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  Speaker 3: I think it demonstrates how real people react when illegal
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  Speaker 3: migrants arrived. They don't welcome them, and they jump on
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  Speaker 3: them as we saw there, holding them down until authorities arrived.
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  Speaker 3: Because beach goers realize, if you have a whole lot
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  Speaker 3: of illegal migrants arriving over and over again, eventually you
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  Speaker 3: won't be having a vacation at the beach because the
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  Speaker 3: country will be fundamentally changed.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, mass immigration is the one policy no
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  Speaker 6: one voted for, but everyone gets and no one wants
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  Speaker 6: to stand up to this, and so it's good Spanish
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  Speaker 6: citizens are taking things into their own hands.
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  Speaker 7: But I do fear you're right.
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  Speaker 6: They would have caught these migrants and then probably been
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  Speaker 6: released into the community. Because Spain has a left wing government.
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  Speaker 6: They actually started a program in May of this year
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  Speaker 6: to make three hundred thousand illegal migrants legal every single year,
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  Speaker 6: so they're making almost a million illegal migrants legal under
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  Speaker 6: Spanish law if they've been there for two years or more.
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  Speaker 6: So clearly the Spanish government themselves have no respect for
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  Speaker 6: their own laws, their own borders, and how does a
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  Speaker 6: country survive.
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  Speaker 2: It's given me an idea Thoughka.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've got virgin commercial aircraft pilots now patrolling
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  Speaker 3: our borders looking out for enemy warships. We could have
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  Speaker 3: Spanish beach goers patrolling the top, Spaniards keeping illegal migrants out.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: Who needs the border force? You can just get a
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  Speaker 5: boatload of Spaniards. And the thing, of course, is, as
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  Speaker 5: you say, that, nobody asked for any of this, but
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  Speaker 5: it just keeps on happening. And it's almost like, and
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  Speaker 5: I mean it's been the case for more than a decade,
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  Speaker 5: but it just feels like there's a level of inevitability
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  Speaker 5: to this that you just go, well, that's just how
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  Speaker 5: it is now, because no one has actually taken the
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  Speaker 5: time to do anything about it. I mean, thank god
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  Speaker 5: you have people, obviously not in Spain, but thank god
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  Speaker 5: you have people like Nigel Farage in the UK who
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  Speaker 5: are starting to seriously talk about this. And if you
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  Speaker 5: look across the rest of Europe during EU elections and
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  Speaker 5: other local elections in France and Germany, you've seen a
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  Speaker 5: rise of right wing and conservative parties in response to
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  Speaker 5: this mass migration that they are experiencing in Europe. Finally,
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  Speaker 5: it feels like people are empowered to stand up and say, actually,
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  Speaker 5: I don't want this to happen to my country.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sad it's taken this long.
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  Speaker 5: For it to happen, because if they've been saying this
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  Speaker 5: fifteen yar years ago, we wouldn't be in the pickle
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  Speaker 5: a Europe is in now.
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  Speaker 1: But at least we finally.
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  Speaker 5: Reached a point where people feel comfortable to say it,
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  Speaker 5: and people feel comfortable to tackle illegal migrants on beaches.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you're now in a position where people in many
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  Speaker 6: parts of Europe feel like strangers in their own lands,
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  Speaker 6: strangers in their own what was supposed to be their home.
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  Speaker 6: Another place where people feel that is London, where white
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  Speaker 6: British citizens are now a minority in their own city.
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  Speaker 6: They have been for at least a decade now, and
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  Speaker 6: part of that is thanks to Mayor Siddiq Khan. He's
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  Speaker 6: been in a stoush with Trump really since twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 6: but it has escalated again recently. When Trump was in
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  Speaker 6: the UK meeting with Sarma, he had some not so
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  Speaker 6: nice words to say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of your mayor.
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  Speaker 6: I think your manager, I think he's not terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Joe the Mayor of London a nasty person.
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  Speaker 2: I think is a friend of mine. Russia.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think you shown a.
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  Speaker 6: Terrible chat kiss Salma doing the awkward tie shuffle there.
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  Speaker 7: This is how Citi Khan responded, Come to.
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  Speaker 8: London and let me take let me shame around. I
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  Speaker 8: wonder if for diverse communities. Let me take him on
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  Speaker 8: the pride march, this come in summer, next summer, let
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  Speaker 8: me take him to a mosque. Let me take into
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  Speaker 8: some of our diverse communities and understand that actually it
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  Speaker 8: is perfectly compatible to be a Westerner and to be
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  Speaker 8: a Muslim. It's perfectly compatible to treat.
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  Speaker 6: Women with risp So city Khan's grand vision for all
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  Speaker 6: that London could offer to Donald Trump and the world
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  Speaker 6: is pride, Islam and diverse communities.
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  Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure he's just proved Trump's points.
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  Speaker 3: He's promising to show Trump everything except London. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I remember when I went to London and you would
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  Speaker 3: know you Trafelga Square, Big Ben, the London Bridge, Buckingham Palace,
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  Speaker 3: Pride marches and mosques.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean the boldness of Sidik Khan to say
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  Speaker 2: that with a straight face.
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  Speaker 3: And did you notice he's being interviewed by a couple
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  Speaker 3: of presumably.
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  Speaker 1: White bread Brits who.
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  Speaker 3: Don't raise an objection at all. They just smile as
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  Speaker 3: if this is perfectly normal. Sadik Khan has got London.
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  Speaker 3: Well you can imagine the rest.
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  Speaker 1: By the goa nay.
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  Speaker 5: And this is what I mean about the inevitability of it,
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  Speaker 5: because those words coming out of the mouth of the
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  Speaker 5: Mayor of London is almost like, well, of course he'd
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  Speaker 5: say that, you know, this is just the point we've
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  Speaker 5: come to. I mean, it's about fourteen percent of the
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  Speaker 5: population of London is Muslim. Across the UK, it's about
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  Speaker 5: six and a half percent, and that's the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 5: one census, so you'd assume it's grown since then. But
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  Speaker 5: that's the latest data that we know, so more than
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  Speaker 5: double the average British population of Muslims in London. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there would be plenty of mosques to go and.
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  Speaker 1: Take a look at.
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  Speaker 5: He says that is a Muslim man himself, as though
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  Speaker 5: that's the greatest thing that London has to offer, and
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  Speaker 5: that there's not something odd about that. And of course
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  Speaker 5: that's not to say that Muslims can't live in London
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  Speaker 5: or they can't live in the UK.
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  Speaker 1: Of course they can.
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  Speaker 5: But when you're saying that this is part of the
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  Speaker 5: Greatness of the United Kingdom.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no it's not. I mean, if you think about.
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  Speaker 5: I want to go to London and check out London,
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  Speaker 5: all the things you listed off, James are the things
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  Speaker 5: that you would think of.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who's ever thought.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to take my winter Australian holiday, summer europ
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  Speaker 5: holiday in London so I can go and look at
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  Speaker 5: the mosques and the Pride marches. It's not what people
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  Speaker 5: associate with London, but that's what he wants people to
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  Speaker 5: associate with London for some sick reason. I hope Trump
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  Speaker 5: takes him up on the offer. And of course Trump
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  Speaker 5: has already accepted.
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  Speaker 1: An offer from King Charles the Third to go and
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  Speaker 1: have a state visit over there, so I hope he
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  Speaker 1: takes him up on the offer, because how funny.
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  Speaker 5: Will it be to see Sadik Kahan leading Donald Trump
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  Speaker 5: around London to Pride marches and mosques. It will be hilarious,
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  Speaker 5: almost as good as him standing next to Jerome Powell
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  Speaker 5: that the new building.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it will be so good.
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  Speaker 3: Only there's more chance of Anti Albanzi going to meet
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  Speaker 3: Trump and you can't actually making good on that offer.
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  Speaker 6: But the other thing is if all you want to
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  Speaker 6: see are mosques and pride marches. Come to Sydney, go
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  Speaker 6: to Melbourne, go to any city in the western world.
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  Speaker 6: There is nothing quintessentially British or London about that, and
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  Speaker 6: that is the whole point. We have replaced and he
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  Speaker 6: raised our own cultures for this experiment of endless openness,
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  Speaker 6: diversity and multiculturalism.
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  Speaker 7: We are a multi racial society.
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  Speaker 6: That's great, but we have to have a shared culture,
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  Speaker 6: shared values, customs, institutions. Otherwise society will break down and
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  Speaker 6: all you're left with is generic phrases about mosques and pride.
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  Speaker 7: Could be London, could be anywhere in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of society breaking down and staying in the UK,
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  Speaker 3: it's a clothing store used to be called Marx and Spencer,
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  Speaker 3: major department stores in the UK. They're under fire after
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  Speaker 3: a transgendered staff member harassed a fourteen year old girl
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  Speaker 3: who was.
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  Speaker 2: Shopping with her mum.
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  Speaker 3: Now the mother complained she'd gone to the store with
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  Speaker 3: her fourteen year old who was buying her first bra,
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  Speaker 3: when a transgendered staff member that is a man who
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  Speaker 3: identifies as a woman about six foot two, comes over
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  Speaker 3: to the fourteen year old girl and offers assistance with
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  Speaker 3: trying on her first bra.
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  Speaker 2: The girl was.
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  Speaker 3: Horrified, immediately reported it to her mum and they left
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  Speaker 3: the store. Then they complained as you would, and this
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  Speaker 3: is the response they got from the store. They replied
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  Speaker 3: in writing, we want our stores to be inclusive and
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  Speaker 3: welcoming places for our colleagues, staff and customers. We've written
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  Speaker 3: to the customer and explained that our colleagues typically work
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  Speaker 3: across all departments in our stores, and customers can always
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  Speaker 3: ask to speak to the colleague they feel most comfortable with,
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  Speaker 3: except that it was the transgendered staff member approaching the
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  Speaker 3: fourteen year old girl, not the girl picking and choosing
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  Speaker 3: or having a lack of choice as to who served her.
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  Speaker 2: JK.
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  Speaker 3: Rowling, the Harry Potter author, has taken this up and
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  Speaker 3: she has posted on social media it's time for women
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  Speaker 3: to vote with their wallets. If stores like M and
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  Speaker 3: S continue to flat the Supreme Court ruling on women
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  Speaker 3: only spaces prioritizing the wishes of men who want to
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  Speaker 3: undress near or help fit bras on teenage girls, a
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  Speaker 3: boycott seems appropriate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's absolutely true.
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  Speaker 3: I should point out the incident at Emins happened in March.
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  Speaker 3: The Supreme Court ruling was the month after that, So
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  Speaker 3: there is that factor. But the department stor's response to
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  Speaker 3: the mother is entirely unsatisfactory. There wasn't an apology, There
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  Speaker 3: wasn't an acknowledgment that this was not only wrong, it
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  Speaker 3: was gross and completely inappropriate. It was just this language
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  Speaker 3: of well, we're all about inclusion and we're all about welcoming.
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  Speaker 3: Inclusion would have to be the most overdone word in
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  Speaker 3: Western culture right now, and it's used to cover a
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  Speaker 3: multitude of sins.
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  Speaker 5: I know, And from a legal standpoint, there's probably a
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: question over whether a brass section of a department store
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: is actually a women's only space. But putting that to
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: one side, you would think, just as a matter of business,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: you would no.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: You say that who else would go to that? Well?
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: Is there a law saying that a man can't walk
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: through the bras section of a department store? So I'm
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: just saying on a legal sense, law of common sense,
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: But in a legal sense, if you took it to court,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: I don't think you'd get away with that as it
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: being an issue, but you would think as a matter
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: of business that you wouldn't have male or you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: biological men who now say they're women going up to
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: people in the brass section of a department store, particularly
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: a teenage girl, and asking them if they want to
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: try a bra on. And the thing that I just
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: don't understand is this having happened, which is a situation
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: that I assume management didn't foresee happening for pretty obvious reasons,
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: because it's not all that long ago. You wouldn't have
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: had transgender staff walking around in there anyway. But having
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: now had that experience and a complaint being made, that
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: they don't just turn around and say, yes, we understand
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: what the problem is. Henceforth, we will advise male staff
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: and transgender staff who are biological men not to work
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: in the brass section of the shop. I mean, how
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: obvious is that stuff? But they can't do it because
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: they are slaves to the diversity agenda.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: The bigger problem here is either men can become women
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: or they can't.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: It's a binary.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Choice, right, they can or they can't, and we all
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: know they can't, but we pretend they can. And so
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: now we've got all these weird things where this person
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: is a woman in this situation, but can't be a
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: woman in that situation. Nicholas Sturgia in Scotland tried to
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: say that transgendered women could go to women's prisons unless
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: they committed a sexual offense, in which case they had
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: to go to So you were a man or a
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: woman based on the type of crime you had committed.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: And we're playing all these games.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Because we know it's not true, but we're trying to
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: pretend like it is, and all these anomalies keep cropping
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: up where we have to compromise. You cut, something's either
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: true or it's not, and the consequences just naturally unfold
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: once you determine truth.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: But we refuse to do that exactly. And ultimately what
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: it is is it's putting the.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: Feelings of a very small group of the population ahead
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: of the rights of fifty percent of the population. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: I also hate this response mark from m ands where
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: they say, well, you could just ask to speak to
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: the colleague you feel most comfortable with. Don't put the
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: onus on women to want to speak to a woman.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: If you've ever been bra shopping, especially your first bar
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: at fourteen, it's uncomfortable at the best of times, let
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: alone having a six foot two male try to you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: it's into you're literally stating there butt naked. I don't
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: need to go into the details, but it's not pleasant.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: You should be trying to make this as comfortable as possible,
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: not saying to the customer, Well, if you're offended by
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: six foot two man trying to feel you out, maybe
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: you should just speak to someone you feel more comfortable with.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if you bypass the transgender person to
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: speak to the real woman.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: You well, rand so, oh my goodness.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: You can't exactly, you can't get away with it, which
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: is why every shop should have like a basic rule
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: that you don't have men working in the brass section
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: of the shop. It seems straightforward, but you know, we
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: live in twenty twenty five. Now we're even the most
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: obvious things just.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: We've got to move on. But I'm taking issue with that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Shops shouldn't have a policy politicians and courts who just
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: decide common sense will apply and what we all know
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: will be lawd and will stop mucking around.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: With this issue.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we shouldn't.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: But listen, we shouldn't even.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Have to get to the point of it having to
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: be any concern of the law. I mean that was
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: when when the Supreme Court made that decision in the
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: UK that a woman is a woman, and we were
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: all like, how good, But like, what are we doing
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: going to courts asking them to define.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: What a woman is in Australian courts right now?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Precisely.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I hope they make the right decision. Otherwise we are
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: all well and truly stuffed. But while we're talking about
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: these matters moving from the UK to the US, I'm
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: sure you've heard of the TV show Family Feud. They've
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: rebooted it in various forms in this country. I think
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: it was two thousand and six. I remember it was
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Bert's Family Feud with Burt Newton here in Australia.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed it as a child.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: But Family Feud is still going in the US and
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: they have a celebrity.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Edition of Family Feud, and so they've.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Had this celebrity edition of Family Feud with these people,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: none of whom I've ever heard of, Laverne Cox, Miller,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: jam Joslyn de Fries and Ts Madison, which I don't
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: know who the hell they are, but they all happen
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: to be transgender, and well they were cracking some fruity jokes.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Shall we say TS?
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: Can't just call you ts?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Of course you can give you Listen, I take it
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: shorter long. It's okay to free ball. We're free ball
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and k all day.
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: Some of us are without the word.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Some of us are free. Some of us have set
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: them free.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Now, look, apparently this is in sense some viewers, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: they've said, oh, you've got to stop watching the show,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: And well, I thought it was funny, to be honest,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: they've got a sense of humor. If you don't like it,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: just like if you don't like watching me, turn off
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: the Telly and go and watch something else. But an
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: interesting part of this is that as part of celebrity
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: family feud, they raise money for a charity, and that
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: team was raising money for a charity that belongs to
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: one of the participants, Ts Madison, who made that joke
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: you saw at the beginning of that clip. And this charity,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: which is called TS Madison Starter is and I'm quoting here,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you that this is real. It is a
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: charity for an Sorry, it is an innovative housing initiative
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: designed to support and empower black trans women.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Engaged in sex work.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Now, if you don't quite know what that means, it
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: means if you are a black transgender person who's been
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: banged up in jail for being a sex worker, they put.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: You in a house when you get released from prison.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: It would have to be the most niche charity of
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: all time. I didn't know this was such an issue
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: in the United States that you needed a specific charity
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: to run a house for transgender black people who've been
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: locked up for being prostitutes.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: And people wonder why Donald Trump won the election honestly
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: to have an all transgendered team on Family Feud. So
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: they says a good idea.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: They would have known what they were doing by allowing
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: these guys to these guys to come on the show.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: They all have social media. It's pretty clear.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: That they're quite wild characters. And so it's kind of
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: on Disney for this one for letting them go on
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: a show called Family Feud. They are especially given a well.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Ts Madison definitely was a prostitute engaged in sex work.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is where the whole charity idea comes from.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: She was a black transwoman in sex work in the
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Deep South of America.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: As well, quite brave, really very brave.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, doesn't this just epitomize the culture
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: war that is raging in the US. I mean, the
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: most niche minority group who somehow have a grievance against
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: the system and are going to raise money for themselves
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: and their own friends got a house together.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: You could be raising money for starving African children and
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: all these sorts of.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Well, you could just have a game show. That's a
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: fun game show. It's owned by Disney, now, right, kid,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: on Saturday nights, we'll be allowed to staff and watch
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: the Wonderful World of Disney or whatever it was called.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: And it was certainly not.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: You weren't watching Hey Saturday, No.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I wasn't, and I certainly wasn't watching family feud like that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Let's stay in the US where some more crazy thing,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: maybe even crazier than that, is happening. But politically in Texas,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: where the House of Representatives want to pass a bill,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: the House of course is dominated by Republicans, that it's
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: going to move some electoral boundaries and it will probably
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: result in more seats for Republicans. So obviously the Democrats,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: who are in a minority in the House they don't
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: want this, so to avoid this bill being passed, they're
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: just not showing up for work so that there's not
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: enough representatives to form a quorum, so the bill can't
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: be voted upon. The problem, of course, is that they
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: can be fined and or arrested for not showing up
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: to vote, so they've gotten around that by actually leaving
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: the state.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: So you've got Texan representatives.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Democrats who have now gone into state so that there's
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: no ability for them to be arrested for not showing up.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I think it's been three days that they've refused to
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: turn up to the House of Reps to do their job.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: The House of Reps will sit for another two weeks,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and they're proposing that they may well not come back
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: The problem with this, of course, is there are other
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: bills that need to be passed, flood relief bills. There's
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: a bill to create an early warning system so that
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: floods as we saw recently don't affect people so badly again.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: And the Dems are just flat out refusing to come
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to work and represent their constituents in the House because
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: there's a bill they don't like.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: They don't want it to pass, so they just won't
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: show up.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a serious neglect of your civic duty. You
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: were elected to do a job to represent the people.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: And there are other bills that are being held up.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: This is what the Republican governor Greg Abbott had to say.
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: So they're leaving, and they've left because they're very untaxaned.
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: Texas.
• 26:54
  Speaker 12: Don't run from a fate. And there's a fight going
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: on in the legislature right now about redistring as well
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: as other things.
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: But I'll make two quick points stand about this.
• 27:03
  Speaker 12: For one, to run to states like New York and
• 27:07
  Speaker 12: Illinois to protest redistricting is kind of like running to
• 27:10
  Speaker 12: Wisconsin to protest cheese. It's just kind of outrageous.
• 27:13
  Speaker 11: Those are New York and Illinois to hallmark states. They've
• 27:17
  Speaker 11: already done redistricting to eliminate Republicans. But the second thing
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: is far more serious, and that is what these Democrats
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: have done.
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: Just a small fraction of them were needed to break
• 27:29
  Speaker 12: a quorum, and that small fraction is holding hostage legislation
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: in the state of Texas, where we will be able
• 27:34
  Speaker 12: to provide assistance and reform for all of the victims
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: of that horrific flooding that we've had in the state
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: of Texas.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: Honestly, this kind of reminds me of student politics at
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: Sydney University when different groups on campus would routinely pull
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: quorum at SRC meetings so they could tank motions and
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: derail the entire meeting, and that was the strategy. This
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: is so immature. It is the behavior of student politicians
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: on university campuses, not real politicians who are supposed to
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: be representing people. And I also love the Democrats always
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: going on about how Republicans are taking away democracy. Trump
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: is killing democracy, but as soon as there's a bill
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: that they don't like, they just leave the state and
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: shut down democracy.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Well, so many, you know, real politicians are former student politicians.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: So I suppose you can't teach an old dog new tricks,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: can you. I mean, you know, you have to be
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: able to roll with the punchers in politics, and sometimes
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: things go your way and sometimes they don't, and you.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Just have to hack the fact that that's how it is.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, essentially, what they're doing here is a blatant gerrymander,
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: and Greg Abbott has even acknowledged that it is basically
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: a Gerrymanda, but.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: It's legal for them to do it, so the Republicans,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: that's what the Republicans are doing.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they know what they're doing, but it is legal.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: They've had the legal advices says they can do it,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: and the Dems are now threatening to do it them
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: in other states. So you know, all's fair in love
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: and war. If that's what you can do, that's what
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: you can do.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Go for your life.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: It is within the law, and so you ought to
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: rock up and vote and do your job. I mean,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: if this is how politics was run in general, every time.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: There was a piece of legislation, a.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Bill came before you know, our parliament or any parliament
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: or whatever in legislature in the United States saying you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: we don't like what you're going to try to do,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: and we know it's going to pass because you've got
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: a majority, so we're just going to yank how people
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: out of the parliament. If that's how things ran, we
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: would be and you know Tasmania is probably sitting at
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: home going, well, we know about this, but we would
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: be in an election every second month's you just can't
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it is complete, complete chaos. Well, staying in the US.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Now, if you have kids who are sort of in
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: there teen years, you may have heard of this thing
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: called the Bop House. It is the biggest on social
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: media at the moment. What it is is a house
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: of a group of girls all in their late teens
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: and early twenties. They made catchy videos dancing, singing, braiding
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: each other's hair at sleepovers. It all looks pretty innocent,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: but it masks something extremely sinister between them. They have
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: thirty three million followers, and they're actually only fans content creators.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: This is the kind of video though, that they post
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: to lure kids into watching their stuff. So it's not
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: exactly complex stuff with a lot of intellectual rigger or firepower,
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: and it's not even that entertaining.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: Really.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Choreography was amazing, yeah, But thirty three million followers and
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: these girls are ranged from ages of eighteen to early twenties,
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: and they're making millions of dollars on only Fans, which
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: is essentially a pornography site. And the risk here is
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: they are attracting young people, particularly girls. They're glamorizing a
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: lifestyle of sex work, and this has now become aspirational
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: to young girls. We've given them feminism choice, and what
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: do people want to do now?
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: Be prostitutes the oldest profession.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: So they're using the TikTok videos which appeal to teenage girls.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: So then link the teenage girls to the individuals who
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: feature in these videos. They're OnlyFans accounts, which are basically
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: pornographic sites, and thereby normalizing pornographic content creation for twelve, thirteen,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: fourteen year old girls.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And I suspect their original intention is.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: To get the blokes to carry through and buy a
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: subscription to their platform, because this is a way for
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: them to make money. Right, So blokes looking and go, oh,
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: they've got an only fans, I'll go.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And buy that.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: But buy product is that younger girls are also seeing this,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: and so it legiti marters is normalizes the idea.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And you know, if you want to do porn, go
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: for your life. That's your business.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: It's a free market, you can do what you want.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: But this brings me back to the argument I've been
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: making for a long time that we need to ban
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: TikTok because it is just pure brain rot sent out
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: by the CCP in China to destroy Western brains. And
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: this is the logical conclusion of what that platform is
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: doing to people.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It is because the.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Algorithm pushes this content, it puts it in the faces
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: of teenage girls and men who go on to buy
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: subscriptions to this stuff.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: This is what the CCP wants.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: They want people to watch this mindless garbage and then
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: go by Is this.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: The product of TikTok as a platform or is this
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: the product of the exact argument you've just made.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: Where you can do porn. It's your choice.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: There's not really any objective moral standard. If you want
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: to do this, you can go for it, because that's
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: all they're doing. They're just exercising their bodily or chinament
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: to make pornographic content. Their content is also promoted on Instagram,
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: on any other social media platform.
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: It's not about the platform. It's about the fact that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: It's objectively horrible that young girls are aspiring to do sex.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Because that then mean it should be illegal.
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: Well, I think it should be morally frowned upon, for sure.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: But the point with TikTok, though, is it's unusual in
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: that it is responsible from the CCP, where they have
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: a very different version in China for their young people.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: They're exporting a pernicious version to children in Western countries
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: as a way of breaking down Western culture and for
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: that reason alone. And everyone was worried about the data
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: mining aspect. It's the content that's the big problem. The
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Chinese not just an open market. It's deliberately targeting Western
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: nations for that reason, Freyan, no one should be on
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: t Nobody, Frayer, no one.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: But there is something deeper going on here that is
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: irrespective of which platform you use. It's that young girls
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: are buying into this porn culture. It was typically that
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: it was young men who were viewing porn. Now young
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: women also viewing it and they're aspiring to produce it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: And that is for me the scary thing where young
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: women are voluntarily looking up to these people and saying, yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: that's what I want to be when I grow up
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: a porn stuff.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: It is interesting because Channel four in the UK has
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: recently made a documentary about a porn actress called Bonnie Blue,
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: and she filmed this thing. She is on only fens,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: was on only fans, I don't know where. She had
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: sex with one thousand men in twenty four hours. So
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Channel four has made a documentary about this take a
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: look at the trailer.
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: You've seen the headlines, you've heard the nose, and now
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: Channel four is taking a.
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: Look behind you on one thousand Men and Me. The
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: Bonnie Blue story streaming now.
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: The content I love making the most is the barely legals,
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: the students, the husbands.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: The last I went up by myself was probably about
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: six months ago.
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: If you could earn a million pounds in a month,
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: your morals had soon changed and you'd get your better.
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: I found my purpose and found their niche I want
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: to focus on.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: And some are saying that this is legitimizing what she does.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, as a journalist, I think all
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: is fear in journalism, and you can make documentaries about everything,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: and it is actually a news story at the moment.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: So I understand why they've made the doco and why
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: they're marketing it because it's a window into the weird
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: and wacky things that go on in the world. But
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: you know that that's sort of where you've got to now,
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: where that's that's the number one thing. Someone saying I
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: want to shag a thousand men on camera.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I liked mum saying for a million pounds, stuff your.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: Morals, and I think that's why body is so popular
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: and people are just I guess, enthralled by her because
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: she pushes all boundaries and really she takes this idea
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: of my body, my choice, complete sexual liberation, unbound from
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: any social norms to its absolute extreme, and that is
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: shocking to most. But also you wonder how is this
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: going to go for her? What does that do to
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: you physically but also emotionally To put yourself through that
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: and really just reduce yourself to a sex object for
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: random men.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: It's really sad.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: But it is her right.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Though I suppose you can't stop someone from doing that
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: kind of thing, and nor should you, I don't think,
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: because you know, you limit freedom. If you start telling
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: people they can't do that kind of thing. Doesn't necessarily
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: mean everyone agrees with it or thinks it's great, but
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: you know, like it or not, that's just what some
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: people are doing. Very quickly, before we get to the
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: break in the UK, going back there for just a moment,
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: they're complaining now that the entry test to become a
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: lawyer is racist.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Honestly, how can this be real?
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: But apparently these solicitors' qualifying examination the SQE which is
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: the test you have to take to pass and go
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: to the bar, is difficult for people of different ethnic
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: origins to pass.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: And so they've now started a petition a bunch.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: Of people to say that it is disproportionately challenging and
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: favors certain backgrounds and learning styles. So it does turn
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: out that seventy percent of white people who take the
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: test pass it, forty nine percent of Asians pass it,
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: so fifty one percent fail, and only thirty seven percent
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: of black people who take the test pass it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: But how does that mean that the test is racist?
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: Like all the tests that everyone takes at school are
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: the same and they've never heard a complaint that they're
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: racist before, But all of a sudden, because some people
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: have failed the test is proportionately it means the test
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: must be race.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Judging by some of the asylum seeker decisions made by
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: British judiciary. I'll tell you what they need to make
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the exam harder, because there's a lot of dummies in
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the British Court at the moment.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: including one consultant of the Queensland government earning almost two
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars just four weeks work, and no one
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: knows what he's doing.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: That's coming up in just a moment. Welcome back to
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the program.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: We'll take a look at what's making headlines in tomorrow's
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: papers and Caleb, we think we might have found the
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: best paid person in Queensland.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: How good it says on the front of the courier
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: mail tomorrow consultant gets one hundred and eighty seven day
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: for a twenty.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Five day job.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Nice work if you can get it, and you can
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: get it if you try. I'm no Tony Bennett, but
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: you get the picture. An Elien p donor has been
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: quietly handed at one hundred and eighty seven thousand and
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: five hundred dollar government contract for just twenty five days
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: of work, and Resources Minister Last won't reveal what he's delivered.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Ian Davies, who is you can see there in the story,
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: was appointed to provide quote unquote special analysis to miss
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: the last about the resources industry in Northwest Queensland.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: The former energy.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Executive is being paid one hundred and eighty seven five
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: hundred dollars for up to twenty five days work, equating
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: to an eye watering seven thousand, five hundred dollars per day,
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: double the eighty four thousand and seventy eight bucks annual
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: pay of a first year teacher. Once again I asked
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: the question, how do I get my hands on one
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: of these government contracts because I could do it for
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: half the price with twice as much work involved, I'm sure.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: And of course the career mail is comparing and contrasting
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: this guy's wage from the government with the wage that
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: teachers receive because teachers were on strike in Queensland over
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: their wages. So that will be fuel to the fire,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: no doubt. Going to the front page of tomorrow's Herald's
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Son in Melbourne, empty promise reads the headline. One in
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: five CBD office spaces empty for more than a year
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: as fears grow Premiers work from home edict will drive
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: more people from Melbourne.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: That's the headline. At the moment.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: One in three workers in the Melbourne CBD is choosing
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: to work from home, according to this article, and Melbourne's
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: now got the highest office vacancy rates in the country
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: eighteen percent seventeen point nine to be exact, but about
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: eighteen percent of offices are empty.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: And this is before just into.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Allen legislates to make it a right to work at
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: least two days from home if your job can reasonably
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: be done from home.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: So this is going to destroy and not.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Just business, but you've got cafes, restaurants, all of those
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: auxiliary businesses in the CBD rely on workers being at work.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to sink to.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Allen believes the CBD can recover when she is promoting
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: laws like the one she is promoted.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: Well, it just feels like the life of our cities
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: is just being drained. The nightlife is shutting down, cafes
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: are going bust, restaurants can't survive. And all of this
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: is being compounded by our new hermit culture where we
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: all just want to stay at home all the time
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: and not socialized, not go out. It's really really sad.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Moving on to the Canberra Times now, the headline is ire.
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: Over Russia's lost plot.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: Russia claims the cancelation of an embassy lease is illegal,
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: as lawyers for the Australian government argue in the nation's
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: highest court imposes a security risk. Diplomatic tensions are playing
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: out in the High Court after the Albinisi government rushed
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: laws through parliament in twenty twenty three to cancel Russia's
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: lease on a plot of land where it planned to
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: build a new embassy. Russia rejected the cancelation as Russophobic hysteria.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's a new phobia we can all.
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: Have now, Russophobic hysteria.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think this is the right call. Typically,
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: these governments will use their embassies for the diplomatic immunity
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: provide and then that gives them the ability to carry
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: out foreign interference, spy operations, basically anything they want.
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: On Australian soil.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: But while you're at it, maybe shut the Iranian embassy
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: and the Chinese one too, because it's not only Russia
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: that's doing DODGYP.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Well, this is the thing, right, I mean, you know
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: you can say, oh, we're doing.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: It to Russia because Russia's bird at the moment.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: But our Chinese friends, who we've just been over visiting,
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: and there is a case now going before the court
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: about you know, the CCP allegedly using someone in Australia
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: to spy on people in Australia.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: They can have all of their infrastructure here in our
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: major cities, but Russia can't.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure it quite was.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I'd take a contradiction, but let's start with where we're at.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: There's no way a Russian embassy should be built that
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: close to Partament House. And bear in mind they got
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: this block of land in two thousand and eight.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Now they haven't built an embassy.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: But imagine the change in technology over the last almost
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: twenty since that embassy was proposed, knowing what we know
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: about surveillance these days, and ASIO have warned Russia is
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: one of the countries that is actively spine on Australia.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: They just shouldn't allow it to go ahead, and they're
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: right to block it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, but do it to China as well,
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: because there are even more imminent threat to US than
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: Russia is on the front of the Australian Tomorrow. EV
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: makers coming up short on distance claims guilty as charged, well,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: I'll be bugger. Electric vehicle brands are falling short sorry
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: of their advertised ranges on a single battery charge, with
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: real world testing of byd Tesla, Kia and smart ev
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: models revealing the performance of a Chinese manufactured car was
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: twenty three percent below it's promoted road distance. The first
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: independent Australian testing of electric vehicle ranges, conducted by the
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: nation's peak motoring body found far popular TV models all
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: fell below their advertised on road performance. Who would have
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: thought that would have been the case?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: What a surprise. People aren't buying them in Greatcown.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Well sixty percent of Australian So that's the reason they
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: don't want to buy one.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And there you go, being misled.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: The front page of today Telegraph Exclusive Net closes on
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: AI creeps. New laws banned creation of deep fake poorn.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: The creation of sexually explicit deep fakes will now be
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: a criminal offense in New South Wales under strengthened reforms
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: brought in by the Men's government. The legislation being introduced
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: to Parliament today that is Thursday, will expand existing offenses
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: relating to the production distribution of intimate images without consent
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: to cover those created entirely using artificial intelligence. Now, this
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: comes after a number of horrific instances of deep fakes
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: really affecting people, as a fifteen year old girl a
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: couple of years ago who took her own life after
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: kids made sexually explicit deep fake.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Pictures of her. More recently, there were.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: School teachers in New South Wales saying male students had
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: created sexually explicit deep fake images of them when they
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: were sending them around to one another. So this is
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: a good change to the law.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: Curious as to how they're going to enforce this, because
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: they're policing websites.
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: I don't know, but it's definitely a step in the
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: right direction. And in the Mercury tomorrow, if you're in.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: Tasmania, I am so so sorry, hold on to your hats.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: The Liberals' fifth term in office could last just two weeks,
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: as Opposition leader Dean Winter foreshadowed a no confidence motion
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: which might return Labor to power in Tasmania.
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: So imagine that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: You've just had your second election in about eighteen months
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: and you could be heading for number three very soon.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: They won't do that, They'll just try and get confidence
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: in the parliament.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: But I was going to use a word I shouldn't
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: use the television. It starts with an east and into
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the shirt.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of that word and show after the break,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: a couple.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Build their dream home.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Just one problem, they built it in the wrong spot.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: What do you do in that instance. We'll talk about
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: it after this.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Now, a lot of people I know are critical of cricket,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: saying it's a boring game. How can a game go
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: for five days and at the end of five days
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: end in a draw. Well, here's proof that cricket really
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: is boring for a lot of people, because the most
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: excitement in a game at Lord's recently was when a
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: fox entered the arena.
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: Well, this is a first at the home of cricket.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I'm quite sure.
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: I always going to exit or somebody can help him out.
• 46:45
  Speaker 9: How do you catch a fox?
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Brody never Gon asked up question.
• 46:55
  Speaker 9: I'll tell you what. We've gone from asking to Cheltenham.
• 46:59
  Speaker 9: I'm back to Lord's and he's still running. Jesus, I
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: wish some of my horses run that fast.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: So I watched that, and I thought that fox has
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: got a better tail than the English rickety.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: It's a very good point and jumps a bit better
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: than a few orders.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: That's so cute. But he looks so confused. I wonder
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: how they got him out. Caleb, you couldn't hear this,
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: but he said someone should just shoots a shotgun.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I mean it's a bloody fox. They should be still
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: able to hunt them.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: A real heartless person. Well, moving on, now, imagine this.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: You buy your perfect block of land. You're looking forward
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: to a peaceful, idyllic retirement, only to find out you've
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: built your house on the wrong land.
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: Dave had He was working inside the house, getting the
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: house to getting it to certificate of occupancy, fixing up
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: all the cuts on the inside of the house with
• 47:57
  Speaker 10: the plaster, and he got a call from the ounswort
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: to say you need to stop work immediately because the
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: house is on the wrong block, and he locked everything
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: up and left the property. We thought it was a hoax.
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: We thought it was a scam. We went to the
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: council the next day and found out that it wasn't.
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: It was the council.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: Did they have a builder or someone who was helping them,
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: because isn't that the first thing you do You look
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: at the council title deeds and you make sure you
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: actually own the property.
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: Well, the council initially had inspected the house and everything.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: It was on the neighbors block instead. Now they're in
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: legal trouble.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Over given fourteen days to get rid of the house.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Just for, isn't it.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: And we can't leave tonight without acknowledging the death of
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: Cold Joy of course.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: So the first.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Australian to have a number one here take a look
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: his first hit, Bye Bye Baby, and then eventually My
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Woman's Love. You know, he was the teen idol in
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: Australia when the Elvis was going on in the United
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: States and whatever. And there are some great stories back
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: in the day, him and Brian Henderson and John Laws
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: knocking about together in the days of bandstand.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Which many of you at home will remember. Jeez, they
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: got up to some fun.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Well that's all we've got time for, but stick around.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Coming up is the reed A Penny Show. We'll see
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: you again tomorrow night.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Good night,