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2026 Oscars Predictions · Black Men Can't Jump [In Hollywood]

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, for Hollywood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, also it's so crazy that the Hollywood was just to keep creatives to shut up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would've liked this idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Oscars you in?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, it was just like, I made up a word to keep people like, hey, to keep them from being a, to keep them being okay for being exploited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like, hey, here's a crazy, crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that all of life, really?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: in that world.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, well, we usually do some cold open where retransition, but it doesn't really make sense for this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because this is in a normal episode.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We do this once a year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We might have missed the year or two.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've only been pretty consistent.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We've done this for many years, you know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've definitely been consistent.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've been consistent with this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: James is consistently if there's one thing I'm consistent on is this and it's and what do you say about the Oscars?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have a first ball fuck the Oscars second of all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean listen, you know, it is something to who said it recently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The actress.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She was in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not to say me and girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is so crazy to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it was like, what is it matter?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't remember that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, remember who won 10 years later, and I'm like, honestly, I mean, I can look at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's that I do remember.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I remember.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a car member when I care at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If I don't care, I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember like, I remember that's not scary.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I can to you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: 10 years ago, Wait a minute, hold on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: 10 years ago,
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[SPEAKER_05]: Was that white isn't that green doesn't that one green book one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: In 2016, we all have computers and can look this up easily.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That must have been Oscar so weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But also, can we be, can we be real?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've no way say Oscar so white when it's like, the year it was all white people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But most years is usually like one person of color, isn't that still Oscar so white?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the, that's the, that's the, that's the key point out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's gotta be a white out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm not so white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Two years ago was that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But wasn't Oscars so white didn't that come up because it was just acknowledging that Oscars is and has been so white.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was, you know, it was just like, oh, white people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Oscars, of course, are historically all white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But yes, in in 2016, there were 20 actors and actresses nominated for Academy Awards and all 20 of them were white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And we're not even talking, just not black.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're talking, they were all white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right, like we didn't have, there was an Asian person in there, there wasn't a little.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, Latino, hell, like give us a, it was like, wasn't the Spangut, like the people from Native American.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, we don't count people from Spain though.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't, I don't know if I'm a man, I don't know man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what counts, break, we don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do, we don't know what we mean, what count, what are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What counts is that verse?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can technically, if you talk to somebody from Spain, if you talk to like, like, a heavier by them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure he's going to consider himself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a person the color like he's going to say what bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you not remember what Anna Taylor joy was like I'm not white and she is like the I'm not a member of this big thing when they were like she got out of it for like an Emmy or a golden globe and they were like it's all white actresses again and she's like I'm not white and people are like we're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah from like Spain or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, she said she wasn't white because she has some Spanish heritage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because she's from, uh, Anna, sorry, she is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I want to say she's from Jordan, she's born in Florida.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Her father is of, oh, Argent, Argent teen, her father is Argent teen, but of English and Scottish descent.
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[SPEAKER_05]: her mother was born in Zambia to an English diplomat and a Spanish mother from Barcelona.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This girl is white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, she's white in every facet of what whiteness is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She's a white girl, but people, she can say whatever she wants.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't make it true.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, please.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's what they believe, you know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like, you know, this was also the same.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've also had people going, I can't say that I'm X, Y, and Z, because I'm a white, like I'm a white Latino, I'm a white, you know, like, we've had the same on the other side of the coin, we have people saying stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, it's complicated, I think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think that that is complicated.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: James heard me West complicated.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it becomes complicated.
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[SPEAKER_04]: when there are people who like want to embrace like, I want to embrace margin, tinny and blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can embrace your opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So they're saying like, they're saying like, I'm not whites because.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But no, but that's.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the, here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know that I'm gonna know what you're about to say.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I just want the people to understand it, because first of all, race is different from nationality.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, we know that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I don't know why people are confusing that, because we're American and they, we're not considered white, right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, so just because you were born in Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Just because you're a person who's out of the way, the arts and tiniere doesn't mean you can't be white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Of course you can't be white because just like every other freaking place on this globe, European colonialists colonized all of these places and when you colonize a place, you slip there and stay there and you're white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, just because you move from one place to another, doesn't erase your whiteness.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What if, like, what if, like, your white, but because you came out white, but your dad is brown, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right, well, that's called, yeah, that's, wait, that's called white passing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's also, that's also like, you have the privilege of being white passing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right, but if, but if that, what if those people are like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: What if they, like, don't want to say their white?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I, so I, so I get what you're, so James, I under, like, I, it is a thing I, I am mislead struggle with and it's coming up more and more now where I have a lot of ambiguous friends and bro, people I just did not know were,
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[SPEAKER_02]: people of color and to like, no, no, you know, I'm a quarter this, I'm a quarter that like my great granddad was this and I'm like, bro, I think what I struggle with as a darker skinned black person is that I can't hide my color, you know what I'm at the end of the day, some happens I can't hide.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think why I struggle with, especially in James Robinson about this for years is like why I struggle with especially in a comedy community is I felt like there were people who are
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could have been like I now want to accept to I am whatever it is, but there is something when you look at like Oscar Isaac talks about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he doesn't use his last name for reason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there are people who were scripts too because it's hey to say it's easier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then when they try to be like, oh, but I'm this, I'm like, but you waited because you benefited from not being one of us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now when it feels operable, and again, I can't say what's in people's mind, it's just really hard for me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And even though this is an Oscar's episode, and I know a few people are like, what the heck?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What the heck?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, because we got a first, we have to first establish.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that we get understand how black men can't do.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I would say that, you know, okay, historically,
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, and let's just take it in the context of America, though this is also existed in other countries, not not just the United States of America that don't we made that shit happen, but we did make it high.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We made racism cool again come on out and In the United States, you know, if you were white passing, but you were found out like somebody could be like could point to like look, they have a black
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[SPEAKER_05]: father or black grandfather, you know, they had the one drop rule written into law.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's written into law.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not just like a cultural thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was written into law.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And therefore, people had to hide.
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[SPEAKER_05]: they're whatever like color that they had in their background, whatever blackness that they had, they if they wanted to pass as white and society, they could, but if they were discovered, then they could be in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So there was still a real threat there for those people, which is why we still consider them black.
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[SPEAKER_05]: However, those laws have been since repealed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Racism obviously still exists within America,
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's more legally true, but it's more in a systemic way, it's not there's not there's no longer these one drop rules written to law and therefore your whiteness is more associated with your appearance than it is your your actual, you know,
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[SPEAKER_05]: whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like me can't jump
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[SPEAKER_05]: there's three of us who host this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So the person you're listening to now, who is a proudly mixed individual of Italian.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Say it like that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What was that?
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[SPEAKER_06]: A very, very, very proudly mixed, proudly mixed.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Cause I don't want, cause, cause, cause, cause I say it loud.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He mixed me proud.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mixed it out proud.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's okay too.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Irish American and African American descent.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay, but I'm not white pass.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not white pass.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I would say that is just the truth of it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Nobody, people may look at me and go Dominican.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ah, nice, nice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But they certainly don't look at me and go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This man is Scandinavian, which is what I think when I look at on your tail is yours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I was shocked when she said it, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what, um, this is the voice of a true American Negro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, we are southern.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are from Africa.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of us don't have birth certificates because the white people didn't let them have that sad but true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, yep, I could really be trying to figure out what we were from.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll put it to the point of your meal, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we had so little facts on my grandma and her mom and just because they grew up doing reconstruction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they were like, yes, she didn't have it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My mom, my mom has a passport that doesn't have her actual name and when she tried to get it, address when she was younger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: she lived in like this small town in South Carolina, the people would never change it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Lily's someone, a white person messed it up because my mom was old enough we had to like hang right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They messed it up and they wouldn't have fixed it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my stepdad, my stepdad, the reason not one of the reasons he has a disability is because my granddad and his wife were very well to do black people in the south.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had a doctor, Dr. was on call, a white man fall off a horse, broke his neck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So instead of going to deliver the baby that was happening, they decided to go help the white man who broke his neck because he was on his pony or some shit and he was fat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my stepfather, you can't, you're not supposed to like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know like basically you need to do the birth like you're not supposed to hold the baby in because it can Tracks because it's pushing and like you're it's a lot of bad shit and I think about the fact that we live in a world where that is a generation ago It ought to be so American Negro here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Baby, hey Yeah, and I'm not this voice this this voice is James the third and I mean, you know
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[SPEAKER_04]: My grandma on my dad's side was very light skin, so just take what you will from that, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of race mixing out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Take what you will from that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Alright, today we aren't reviewing any particular film.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we at night he learned is a night nine ninety eight ninety eight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm a bit of a one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think I go make it to a hundred.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you mean y'all think film is gonna last that long?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think listen, I know everybody's like, yeah, but people working in Brought people were.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's already lasting this year and, you know, yeah, that's 90 nine right there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think AI is a little, is both under, it's like overblown and not concerned blown and now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the people, I think the issue is that, I think AI will learn blowing AI.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think AI is going to impact a lot of below the line, which I mean, it certainly is researchers, storyboard artists.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You blow it right here below the line below the line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there isn't there isn't that there's a bad word artist goodness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad in it sucks because I love working with a storyboard artist.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, get your shots, but there's an app where I could plug all of our faces into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it can show me what that shot will look like.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I want you to take it right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't plug my face into no app.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're facing all the way up there, but don't you plug my face into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't say, I don't say James the third.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to show me what my face is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You say James the third.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The Scottish.
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[SPEAKER_05]: James, were you not with us when we did Frankenstein?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, I didn't see Frankenstein.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I saw Frank, so wait.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I've seen, I'm looking at this one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One battle after another, sinners, and Frankenstein.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's probably it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, and you missed that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You missed F1, even though we reviewed it on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I missed F1, yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which I would have actually liked to have seen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't James doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You and Kevin love if I had legs out kick you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I would really like that movie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, you might hate it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, and like I have seen their paper team in hunters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, fantastic fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we've reviewed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's already five films that have that are been nominated for Oscars that we reviewed on this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, then there it is, that's what you see, Hamlet James, and that one we can't see.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Six, the smashing machine is not an issue.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh snap, that's make up in hairstyle.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There it is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, it shouldn't get the rock nomination, which I went back and I was listening to a little bit of our smashing machine episode.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I believe I get it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember saying definitively, there was no way that movie was getting nominated for anything, but make up, yeah, make up or act or supporting actor and I remember saying I don't know if the rock will be nominated for the Oscar.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I said I he will definitely be nominated for the Golden Globe.
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[SPEAKER_05]: bit and he was, uh, but it goes a little bit of popularity by the time people, it's also like people haven't seen the movie yet and they're going off of buzz and then by the time people start seeing the movie, it'd be like, oh wait, never mind, this movie's not good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The majoralistic characteristic world rebirth, but that's seven.
18:06
[SPEAKER_04]: But we didn't read.
18:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, we did review that.
18:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because my because I'm a Hershey look, my Hershey would have seen that anyway, but we did review that.
18:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, and that's the only one that I would have just seen on my own.
18:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I guess it may be sinners as well This is the only one that was seen for my own.
18:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like do we just talk about the bigger wars like I thought it is a lot of the belly of what's happening Oh, I mean if I'm in a future, yeah, even though you know keep out meeting that also was so tough
18:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I genuinely, I know it was very hyped up, but I watched K-Pop so early on, and I was like, this is fun, and then insanity broke.
18:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember going to work and being like, hey man, like, because one of my boss loves like, um, K-Pop music and I was like, yeah, I saw this, this, this cartoon movie, I think you're like it, because I'm never watching it.
18:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's look at T-shirt now.
18:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, T-shirt, he got T-shirt.
18:59
[SPEAKER_02]: He, like, every time, every time we have to interview like the girls, the singers, he always wants to interview them.
19:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I was talking about this movie.
19:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So long.
19:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone like dragged a hell out of me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now we always have to interview these girls.
19:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, this is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna,
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19:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, let's go with the big one, baby.
19:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's just go with the big one.
19:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Center's nominated record breaking 17, isn't it?
19:49
[SPEAKER_05]: No, how do we, how do we feel about that, yeah?
19:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're 16 and it was up for 17.
19:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me see, I don't actually, you're right.
19:59
[SPEAKER_04]: You're right, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's set the record with 16, and, okay, so, Terrashing, how do we feel about it?
20:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Because he feels inversely from what you would think that we would feel, which would be great.
20:14
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel
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[SPEAKER_05]: Great, I think it's great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That center is the ability to for so many.
20:19
[SPEAKER_05]: I think, and here's why, I think one, it's, you know, it's, it's joined the upper echelon of films that have the, I mean, I mean, it sets the record, but like, even movies that don't win,
20:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Or only when a few of the like many many awards are nominated for there's still like cement it in the kind of film film lexicon which I think we always thought centers was but this really
20:47
[SPEAKER_05]: really cement it because sinners while being very profitable is it like the most profitable movie ever, you know, it didn't break any box office records necessarily, except right in kougler up for an amount of success in Hollywood that is really exciting.
21:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
21:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I just think that this like takes it to this other level, which I think is really really cool when I don't
21:12
[SPEAKER_05]: as much as amazing as Black Panther was, Black Panther didn't quite have this kind of critical.
21:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it was like a obviously a critical.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was still nominated for...
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[SPEAKER_02]: A few.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It was supposed to have something in the rest picture.
21:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It.
21:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
21:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it had a lot of grief because it was a superhero movie.
21:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it centers this traffic centers is a horror movie and it has a horror movie.
21:37
[SPEAKER_02]: One outside of exercises and the, the, the sound, the, do you count the silence of the lambs?
21:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I count.
21:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Dreambook.
21:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Dreambook.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think some people count the silence of the lambs as a horror film.
21:53
[SPEAKER_05]: It's more, it is definitely more thriller, but it is very dark and, and there's a couple of very graphic moments, but you're right, the horror like straight up or no.
22:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this is, which is another,
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[SPEAKER_05]: accomplishment, right?
22:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Like that, that was able to break through the bias of black led films and the bias of a genre film, especially a horror genre, is I think a really big deal.
22:22
[SPEAKER_05]: So I feel like it's already won, even if it doesn't win.
22:26
[SPEAKER_05]: But here's the other thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's going to win.
22:29
[SPEAKER_05]: It's definitely winning.
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[SPEAKER_05]: original screenplay like there's I think there's no doubt about that.
22:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so that means right in Cougar already gets it gets one and I think it's going to win At least two to three other Oscars if it's not more you know, let's think it's a little I think it will win costuming I think Ruth is going to I think Ruth is
22:52
[SPEAKER_04]: That means that she is, Ruth was like, I might be first.
22:56
[SPEAKER_04]: She might be all.
22:57
[SPEAKER_02]: She might be all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She might be all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She might be all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ruth out here, crush him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She might be another.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm going to be first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think sin is going to win.
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, do we want to do it?
23:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Do we want to go by our war?
23:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So do we want to just do the, how, what's the best way?
23:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Should we do best picture first or?
23:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen these as we borrow.
23:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, no, let's talk about, let's, yeah, let's do, well, let's do some of these technical ones, because we don't, I don't think we're gonna talk too much about them.
23:24
[SPEAKER_05]: So you think sinners will win costume design.
23:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it will win costumes.
23:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, because who else, I guess Frankenstein would be the only other one?
23:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but if you think about it, my thing about Frankenstein is like, it looked good.
23:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like he would be, I would give Frankenstein a special effects.
23:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll give that makeup over costumes,
23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: me niggas and then I'll side of that scene where he like goes to the house and like mess up the party is pretty contained meaning there's not a lot of people too costume yes I mean I guess there is a couple scenes but it's not like the cast isn't as big as the cast centers you know what I mean well I mean in the big in the very beginning of the movie there's a lot of
24:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's like there's the whole like perception when she's dying right and stuff.
24:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think sinners had a bigger cast that's like in the film for longer.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I guess real part.
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, Frankenstein had a lot of like smaller people, but I think it's more, but you're right.
24:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I think special effects of makeup, action design.
24:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Ooh, so that I prefer Frank out there.
24:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get it, Frank is not in.
24:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Frank is not going to get that to me.
24:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely production is in.
24:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my goodness.
24:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I think sinners win the first ever casting a war.
24:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to the cast and the record is out there.
24:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Give you more casting a war.
24:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, so, and that would make, that would be consistent with its sinners won the sag for a best cast.
24:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yes, and I said this when we did the when we reviewed it, but like that movie to me like resurrected movie stars as a concept because I was like, I'm seeing this movie as much for For Michael B and Haley as I'm seeing it for all of the other trappings, but like it's like I and they looked captivating together, you know, like I was like this, this is a this feels like golden age of Hollywood like
25:19
[SPEAKER_04]: like, you know, it's very interesting.
25:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You said it.
25:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so interesting.
25:25
[SPEAKER_02]: The Atlantic came out with an article yesterday talking about how not how movie stars are dead, but it's different.
25:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the movie stars now aren't the actors.
25:35
[SPEAKER_02]: The movie stars now are the old tour directors.
25:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like for me,
25:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw this because it ran cooler, that's like 70s.
25:43
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like, yes, exactly, it's like, this is like, I think about Christopher Nolan movies.
25:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if Christopher Nolan, sorry, the thing I think that's really good about this cast is that, yes, the famous person in this movie is Michael B. Jordan.
25:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody else is a hoos who of actors, but like this is some people's first act and role.
26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It's some people's first act and role in like four years.
26:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's like, they are literally casting people for the parts versus Frankenstein, which has like,
26:12
[SPEAKER_02]: for huge names as the leads.
26:14
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean for who did the article name, you know, we are a source, who did the name as the article, brother, like drawing audience.
26:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, bro.
26:25
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think it didn't want to hear anything.
26:28
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... couglar uh... is a pta there's a pta's in there uh... i mean sp- i would still think spielberg's spielberg's spielberg's in there is still in there and she has a movie coming out this year ever is going to see grant a girl week
26:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah, I'm ready to go ahead and grab a girl week to do they to they put Gilmer Guillermo del Torre or no Guillermo's name is there so is on Bung Jun Bung Jun I'm interesting though because no one saw his last movie Mickey 17.
27:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no one saw his last movie.
27:05
[SPEAKER_04]: That's been like
27:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't Greta, like, like, isn't it Barbie that popped in that way in terms of, I know, like, people see, I don't know.
27:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in trouble.
27:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I feel like, again, if you think about the last five years though, like, Barbie did come out.
27:20
[SPEAKER_02]: People were clocking Greta, especially when like little women.
27:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they certainly were.
27:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
27:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they certainly were.
27:26
[SPEAKER_05]: I hear what James is saying in the sense that, okay, Christopher Nolan and to me Ryan Kougler are undeniably and Jordan Peel I would say.
27:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Those three are so undeniable that it like, because of the movies that they do, it's so clear people are coming to see it because they directed it, right?
27:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Not because they're, you know, like, I know Kougler did black Panther, but like with creed and with this, it's like,
27:54
[SPEAKER_05]: People are like, they're coming, they're like, all right, we're gonna go see this Ryan Cougar movie.
27:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Jordan Peele, it's like, he does nope.
27:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's like, we gotta go see what this is about.
28:02
[SPEAKER_05]: And then obviously, I mean, Oppenheimer, if...
28:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there's no other direction that it's a billion dollars from making a movie about freaking Oppenheimer, like, come on.
28:12
[SPEAKER_05]: But some of these other, I mean, I think like people all where are always going to see a Paul Thomas Anderson film, but it's not always going to make that much money.
28:22
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, Scorsese, we're like, he kind of has to have the right ingredients for it to do well at the box office.
28:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Whereas Spielberg, you know, pretty much anything he does,
28:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, I mean, I mean, I think one of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And it is.
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It's something to that where I'm like, you know, people kept saying, um, one of the big things that happened recently was, uh, the bomb that became a weathering heights.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Weathering heights had two of the most popular, most attractive white people in it.
29:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
29:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Based on not being movie-bombed.
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And then questions became like, is Margot Robbie?
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: a box office star like is she like the movies that she's open outside of barbie and like it like basically the question became like what is well a box office like correct person you know and okay i want i do want to say though i do think there's a different between the reason i think bargo robbie is still considered a star is because that even though we're
29:38
[SPEAKER_05]: not doing well like it's it's still open number one like it's still opened with a pretty like and the thing is that people saw and they were like this movie's bad.
29:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And they don't like it.
29:50
[SPEAKER_05]: They're like, this movie sucks.
29:51
[SPEAKER_05]: And then it had a pretty huge drop-off after that.
29:58
[SPEAKER_05]: That being said, because I was going to talk about, let's Marty Supreme, which is another film nominated for the Oscars.
30:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, do you think more people are seeing Marty Supreme for Timothy Shalame or for Safdie?
30:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's actually a good example though.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess a perfect example and I think brave for me that is a That is one of those things where it's hard for me because I think Marty Martin called this nigga Marty.
30:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Timmy was I thought Timmy promoted that That nigga was standing on the sphere in Vegas.
30:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it was a lot of that
30:30
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think the backing behind Timmy was the safeties.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, oh, there's another safty movie.
30:37
[SPEAKER_02]: We trust safty movies.
30:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think Timmy Shallamae is a movie star.
30:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Because some of those movies he started did not have any business being them.
30:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Wonka, listen.
30:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was fun.
30:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but wonk is, well, let's walk as I play.
30:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like, and a huge one, right, exactly.
30:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Whereas Marty Supreme is like, nobody cares about table tennis.
30:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So, this is the question to that, then, right?
30:59
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the question, because Marty Supreme did not do well.
31:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we, you know, I know it did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How people phrased it.
31:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I know there's been a big, sinners has,
31:09
[SPEAKER_02]: What more racism to the forefront on how people like I'm reported on that movie, but Marty's a preem did really bad.
31:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so it's just I mean, it did it for Did it and I know we are getting off track, but did it do bad
31:22
[SPEAKER_04]: This is in front for it's like was it projected to do more or did it in relative?
31:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It was it was one of 1860s 162 million it is what it made at the box office and the reported budget on Wikipedia is 60 to 70 million no way had to be more than that No way they had a whole it was a of the literally a period piece Well, you had a whole freaking New York city street
31:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure, but why would it I mean period pieces aren't costs aren't like aren't typically like over a hundred million like 60 to 70 million is Is like that seems right like that movie was a hunt at at least Yeah
32:06
[SPEAKER_04]: But wait, I think my ultimate response to Timothy versus whichever saffety directed that is that I think that people are equally going for both and I don't think anyone is going for one more than like I don't think I don't think the numbers are that more people are apparently the smashing machines budget was 50 million but it only made 21 million
32:28
[SPEAKER_05]: It only made 21 million, like the smashing machine was a huge box office bomb.
32:35
[SPEAKER_05]: And I would say, we would have all before these two movies came out.
32:40
[SPEAKER_05]: We would have all said, swaying the rock Johnson as a bigger movie star than Timothy Schall, maybe.
32:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But I agree, but it's so tricky because I think to what your question is and what James just said, I think the combo was different.
32:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Benny, I think,
32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, Benny.
32:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Which one was that?
32:59
[SPEAKER_02]: After one, Benny.
33:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
33:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think people can distinguish between the two happy brothers really, but what we can say, and this maybe where you're going, is that Timothy shall amay in a, and a saffety feels like a better pairing than people don't really think of.
33:16
[SPEAKER_04]: the rock was a gamble I mean it was it was quite literally like oh what what if the rock was in a movie like this That's what that was what that really was in a thing about it is you needed the forward motion of a saffee movie, which you know
33:31
[SPEAKER_02]: To me, however you feel about, you know, Marty Supreme, like, it's not my favorite Saturday movie, but I will say what Josh did in that movie is he took every unlikable thing that people will say about, like, Robert Patterson when he was in good times or, like, Adam Sandler.
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And he made Timothy Schallemay's character still do those messed up things, but he made him likable because every now and then he would tell a joke.
33:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he was smart.
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He would always do something that was like so disalarmate after doing something like horrible and that's the one thing those other characters didn't do it.
34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I think it made it more palatable to other audiences while also having Timothy Shalamate.
34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: If I do think Timothy Shalamate is the movie star.
34:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's in days of movie star.
34:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
34:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we have him.
34:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think we're great.
34:16
[SPEAKER_05]: And to me, I do, I would say I do define a movie star as somebody who can open a movie.
34:23
[SPEAKER_05]: that doesn't isn't a sequel or have some cute IP behind it, which I think the reason we have less movie stars nowadays is that so many of our movie stars like our newer movie stars came like most of what they were doing were backed by huge IP right all of the Marvel heroes you know or even like even Jennifer Lawrence to an extent like
34:51
[SPEAKER_05]: It was like the Hunger Games and X-Men.
34:53
[SPEAKER_05]: She was in both of these huge franchises before she was able to start.
34:57
[SPEAKER_05]: But she also, she was able to do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: and had silver linings playbook and won the Oscar and so then she was able to open movies by herself like you know like joy and red sparrow things like that but like and those movies didn't do that one that's okay I do think that's what it's I agree that's what it's supposed to be like those movies are like obviously like Brad Pitt's biggest f1 was Brad Pitt's highest-grossing film
35:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Right?
35:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it doesn't even sound doesn't it?
35:31
[SPEAKER_05]: And like I'm so proud of this.
35:34
[SPEAKER_05]: But Brad Pitt was obviously a huge movie star.
35:37
[SPEAKER_05]: But like, yeah, like Troy, Freakin' even World War C, and then all this other stuff.
35:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
35:43
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm probably getting off track.
35:44
[SPEAKER_04]: But that's his highest-grossing movie, but it's also was like made for IMAX.
35:49
[SPEAKER_04]: We have the few of his movies that were made for IMAX.
35:52
[SPEAKER_04]: And it comes out now where movie tickets cost like 30 bucks.
35:57
[SPEAKER_04]: See, like, is that all a factor?
35:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's, yeah, I'm certainly an actor, I'm sure it's.
36:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think they equated it to, like, two inflation as well.
36:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's when people know many different numbers.
36:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But the movie made a lot of money.
36:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting because I think about,
36:12
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I do think it's a combination.
36:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think Louis stars are different.
36:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I think back in the day, you would go see Tom Cruise and whatever the hell Tom Cruise was in.
36:20
[SPEAKER_02]: You just, or you went to go see Will Smith and whatever Will Smith was it.
36:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But now I think you need to go see Zindaya mixed with this other thing.
36:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I need to see Zindaya do the biopic to like, Diana Ross, you know, I need like Timothy Shalame with a saffee or with Dennis Delevi.
36:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
36:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I think there's a, will there test there, they're, they're testing it.
36:43
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think we're seeing the people who are able to do it and who aren't because Glenn,
36:50
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's like a person who are like, we're testing it and it's kind of like, yeah, is he?
36:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Right?
36:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's like, yeah, too, because I go over Glenn real quick.
36:59
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think he's great.
37:01
[SPEAKER_04]: How's like over.
37:02
[SPEAKER_04]: So fast.
37:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's, uh, I think the running machine, which is a remake.
37:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
37:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
37:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Didn't do that well.
37:11
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the movie that he has out in theaters now.
37:14
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think anybody's seeing that.
37:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I didn't even let movie came out.
37:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
37:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I mean feels like a stream.
37:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, this stuff is so tough.
37:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think like again, when I think about the casting award,
37:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think I give that movie, I give sinners a little bit of cloud because we have miles who I'd never heard of.
37:30
[SPEAKER_02]: This is first time acting before.
37:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
37:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
37:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Lay for a sec.
37:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I used to watch the British skins, so I know of, um,
37:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, what is this name, what's the name, what's the name, what's the name, bad guy.
37:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the white, it's like Renekas, like Renekas, Renekas, Renekas, Renekas is named a movie, but his actual name is, he's not even listed as one of the first
37:58
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
37:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Jack O'Connell, even seeing like Jack O'Connell in this movie, like he works, but like, you know, I feel like, no, he was going to go into the British slainers.
38:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So many actors.
38:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He was, he was, I saw it.
38:15
[SPEAKER_02]: He was, I mean, also Desha was given us so many actors from that his season, or not his season.
38:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess he came later, but yeah, yeah.
38:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, whatever, that series, but like, anyway, I think send us a definitely going to win that one for sure.
38:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
38:32
[SPEAKER_05]: What else do you think F1 is winning anything?
38:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Sound, sound and editing.
38:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I can win sound.
38:38
[SPEAKER_05]: You think sound and editing or just sound?
38:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I think sound for sure, right?
38:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, man, but the thing is, listen, sinners might pick off one of these things.
38:52
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not here with that.
38:53
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what's crazy, you know what it is?
38:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Your sinners is lurking in all of the cows.
38:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So you know what, you know what, right, to that, sinners can win sound, but I do think the thing F1 has going for it is like the way they edit the races.
39:07
[SPEAKER_02]: The race, and also I think they do a really good thing of not doing the cliche sports thing.
39:12
[SPEAKER_02]: like even when he's in the car, I love cutting back to like that one random.
39:17
[SPEAKER_02]: That one random as like tech who we follow her and she's like insecure.
39:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, why don't we follow in this woman?
39:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, like such a weird character.
39:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, maybe maybe they split it, damn.
39:28
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, okay, okay.
39:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Sinners already has four.
39:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Sinners has four.
39:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Right?
39:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Sinners has four.
39:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Now let's talk about the stuff that's really in contention.
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Best actress, what's up?
39:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Best supporting actress.
39:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I was going to say best supporting actress.
39:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, best supporting actress.
39:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't think, I think best actresses is not in contention.
39:48
[SPEAKER_05]: I think, just not in contention.
39:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Just a little bit.
39:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Unless Jessie has nobody to herself, because people haven't seen the brat, but people I saw the bride and if people, I can understand people not liking the movie.
40:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't understand not liking her in the movie.
40:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's interested in it.
40:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, okay.
40:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
40:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I mean, maybe there are people who don't like what she's doing in it because it is like a lot, but I think she's freaking,
40:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Great, man.
40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay.
40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I only, I just saw a couple of articles being like, did this come out before voting close?
40:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, it's a movie that I'm hit.
40:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of wanted to see it.
40:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, so who do we think for best actors?
40:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I think supporting.
40:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I think best supporting actress.
40:27
[SPEAKER_05]: I think, maybe the biggest toss-up of, maybe I would say the biggest toss-up of the night is best supporting actress because you've had people
40:37
[SPEAKER_05]: You've had all these people like Tiana Taylor.
40:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously was the favorite in the beginning.
40:44
[SPEAKER_05]: She went to Golden Globe.
40:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Amy Madigan won the actor award, a case tag.
40:50
[SPEAKER_05]: And then didn't win me win the back.
40:53
[SPEAKER_02]: She won, she won back to, she won back to the asset.
40:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think, woo me, she went.
41:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
41:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and hear me out, and hear me out is only because I think Tiana Taylor is very fantastic.
41:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Tiana Taylor will probably win an Oscar.
41:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I struggle, I don't know about struggle with it.
41:14
[SPEAKER_02]: By the end of conversation, it's a very real conversation about the type of wins black women get when it comes to Oscars.
41:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think Tiana Taylor is playing a type of character.
41:30
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's up for debate.
41:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think the layout of that character is like, how does this present black women?
41:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think it's nuanced to that conversation that I don't feel like I am truly the best to have.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's something to that from based on what I've heard.
41:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it will be scary to have one, I think she's in the movie more.
41:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she has more weight just period because of how the movie structure goes.
41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think,
41:55
[SPEAKER_02]: What her character passes away, it is a big fucking deal.
42:00
[SPEAKER_02]: What her character does, it's a big deal.
42:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I... Yeah.
42:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
42:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, who do you think will win?
42:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, man, don't ask me.
42:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do you do that?
42:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Why do you do that?
42:12
[SPEAKER_04]: So weapons is now, I think, like, the 8th movie I've seen, or 9th movie, maybe now, for keeping track.
42:17
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm struggling a little bit because... Do you really like game?
42:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I like, I really like to aim me in weapons.
42:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And, but...
42:26
[SPEAKER_03]: But...
42:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I don't think it should go to Tiana Taylor, um, just, oh, you don't think so, no, I don't.
42:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I would sort of made me this role in general, just made me mad, and so I loved Tiana Taylor, and I love when she does with it, you know, but um, and I also appreciate the like she's in this movie for four minutes.
42:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Best actress, sorry, best supporting actress.
42:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I do love that.
43:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's in for that.
43:01
[SPEAKER_04]: But I just go to the center of performance and the weapons performance.
43:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Both of those performances are solid.
43:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I do, I just think I'm moved by the character work of weapons a little bit more.
43:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think she's gonna win, but I'm moved by it.
43:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there has been this backlash
43:23
[SPEAKER_05]: the town of Taylor rule for one battle after another, I am still feel the same way that I did when we reviewed this movie, which is I like complicated characters and I bristle a little bit when people
43:40
[SPEAKER_05]: aren't okay with black people not being like likable.
43:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
43:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
43:45
[SPEAKER_05]: People in a movie, especially when there are other black actors in the film.
43:51
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what it asked for me.
43:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
43:54
[SPEAKER_05]: But, um, and and it's and it is a really
43:59
[SPEAKER_05]: powerful like I think one of the reasons that she was at the forefront of the beginning is that even though she's not in the movie that much is that because she's in the beginning of the movie her impact in the beginning of the movie is so is so strong that it's long lasting it's like Rachel Weiss in the constant gardener and she won.
44:17
[SPEAKER_04]: And you are kind of like not only is it impactful, but you are kind of like yearning for her, the entire rest of the movie.
44:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
44:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But don't you just stay still ahead.
44:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Some like some like, I hear you, right?
44:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you.
44:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Rachel's barely in that movie.
44:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she is, she is, she is, she is.
44:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right, you're right, you're right.
44:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I think like, I forgot if she, how much her screen time was.
44:41
[SPEAKER_05]: But I remember when it was a big deal when it came out, people were like, well,
44:47
[SPEAKER_05]: There is this push for Amy because her, she definitely has the most fun on the rules.
44:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I would say, because she's like not playing a real person almost, but she does it very well.
45:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And also it's like, it is nice, it, the supporting actress category has always been a way for them to either give a role to a person of color because they don't want to give a best actor a war.
45:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, or like, or some character, some aging character, some aging character.
45:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that is exactly what they have.
45:28
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think we're going to get one of those, no matter what.
45:32
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't think I'll be upset with any of these people winning.
45:37
[SPEAKER_05]: It seems like maybe Amy is in the lead, but here's the thing.
45:44
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know if this is true.
45:46
[SPEAKER_05]: But the part of me feels like, if Amy wins best supporting actress, maybe that means Michael B. Jordan wins best.
45:55
[UNKNOWN]: Bye.
45:56
[SPEAKER_05]: And I know it's silly to do those kinds of tradeoffs because why would you look at things that way?
46:01
[SPEAKER_05]: But I think voters do think about that because they're also in beings.
46:05
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think they're like, we have all of these people of color nominated.
46:10
[SPEAKER_05]: We already know Jesse Buckley's winning best actress.
46:13
[SPEAKER_05]: We already know best supporting actor is probably going, is either going, which is another contested one, but I think it's probably going to a white man.
46:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Which one?
46:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Which one?
46:24
[SPEAKER_05]: Best supporting actor.
46:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, yeah.
46:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, but I also was watched, um, so it's a matter of value.
46:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really good in it.
46:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's really good for it.
46:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, I don't have that.
46:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, but that's what I'm saying.
46:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I need the people who are the people who are at the forefront of best supporting actor.
46:42
[SPEAKER_05]: to win.
46:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not even saying my preference, but to win would be selling scars guard, Sean Penn, right?
46:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And then like it feels like Jacob awardee is like the dark horse, and then after that, it would be Benicio and Delroy.
46:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I don't think Benicio or Delroy is aren't going to win.
47:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And because of that, I feel like the voters are going to be like, we can't
47:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Michael B.
47:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So this sort of thing that they always say, I think Michael B will win.
47:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's for a couple of factors.
47:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I think one, the Oscar's notoriously, they don't like gifting the award to young male actors.
47:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I think to me, even though he's 30, I think that's still kind of young from them.
47:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Also don't think they like him.
47:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Like truthfully like I know people will keep bringing up like the only set up because I've seen articles before the opera stuff came out and I think people started finding him obnoxious Which is why they have been reports of if you saw him winning awards this time it was way more humble Then like when he was up for stuff last year like this year was like right he had tears he was sad last year.
47:52
[SPEAKER_02]: This motherfucker.
47:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody so I think he's a little bit of that
47:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I also think that now people are starting to, the haze of Mario's supremacist aren't aware of, and to be honest, Michael be played two parts.
48:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Like straight up, he played two parts, and he played them.
48:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh well, I agree.
48:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he played those two parts.
48:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and look, I want to say this, just...
48:16
[SPEAKER_05]: we should have said this at the start, but everything is subjective, right?
48:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, this is all, everybody's opinions and everyone's like, no, no, this is facts.
48:25
[SPEAKER_02]: We go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we're gonna put this part, no, no, no, we're gonna put this part, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're gonna put this part, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
48:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I have to say, I've seen people on Twitter and threads get so crazy with their definitiveness of of of movie takes.
48:44
[SPEAKER_05]: However, all that being said, I personally think Michael B. Jordan deserves it off merit alone.
48:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he had the best performance, because like Jaros said, he has two performances, both of which are Oscar worthy and they were very both distinct characters, but also this
49:05
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like he's so outside of the regular Michael B. Jordan comfort zone with with these parts.
49:15
[SPEAKER_05]: He brings like it it these are two people who can be very unlikable as well.
49:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I've everybody talks about Timothy Schallman's character in Mars.
49:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Premium like but which of course he is.
49:26
[SPEAKER_05]: But like these are two gangster they're violent men like they're you know like
49:32
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have to be likable either, like, you know, like, I think Michael B brings the right amount of heart while also making you believe like these men are dangerous.
49:41
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they have to go from being the person with the most, the people who feel like they have the most power, threatening other people to people who are being threatened with their wives, right?
49:54
[SPEAKER_05]: The fear of that, not to mention the romance and all that,
49:59
[SPEAKER_05]: just just so it's such a layered performance, um, and as much as I really don't hate Timothy Shao, me a lot of times in, in this, in these conversations that I've had, people have been like, oh, you're such a, oh, you just don't like Timothy Shao, me I'm like, no, I like him.
50:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he's like, I do think he's a really good actor.
50:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't even say this was his best performance that I've seen of him.
50:24
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I actually thought,
50:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Even though I'm not a huge Bob Dylan fan, I was like, I thought he did such a great job in a completely unknown in a way that I was like, I was kind of blown away by, like, and I understand he was up against a stiff competition that year as well, but like,
50:42
[SPEAKER_05]: This role, and some people go, well, he cares, he's the whole film.
50:47
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, okay, but if you don't like the movie, which I didn't love Marty Supreme, and I think not everybody does, then to me that's like, okay, well, if you're telling me he's carrying the whole film, and I didn't like the movie, then like, he carries.
51:03
[SPEAKER_05]: What else am I?
51:04
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a bag of shit, a big ol' bag of shit, that's what he carries.
51:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying it and that said like I like Leonardo DiCaprio's performance I think is an absolutely incredible one battle I think it's so good it's being so it's been a week has he won anything or no And he's not going to because he's already won but like I
51:27
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, um, I think, um, also I think he's too funny.
51:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's too passive and too funny.
51:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I think people don't want to award that.
51:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I know that's interesting.
51:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't think people, I don't think people win for awards.
51:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Awards for stuff like that.
51:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like when you look at statistically what these Oscars are like, like if Michael B wins with these twins, that's such a good point.
51:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying now.
51:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm trying to think has anybody won a best actor award where their role was funny in any capacity.
51:55
[SPEAKER_02]: The closest braid to me in the last 10 years would be Birdman with Michael Keaton.
52:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, okay.
52:02
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
52:03
[SPEAKER_02]: But then, but the difference to me between Birdman and 10 years honestly, they don't do this when I doing this.
52:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't.
52:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, he didn't wear.
52:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't.
52:11
[SPEAKER_06]: Michael Keaton didn't win.
52:11
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my gosh.
52:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Who'll be Michael Kean?
52:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Michael B had the best performance and his career so far.
52:25
[SPEAKER_04]: It's rare that you... What?
52:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Johnny, John, run for the freaking silent film.
52:34
[SPEAKER_05]: The artist, yes.
52:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
52:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Wait, wait, wait, that wasn't... No, no, that wasn't the same thing here.
52:39
[SPEAKER_05]: That wasn't the same here, because Birdman won best picture in the artist.
52:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that was the year before.
52:43
[SPEAKER_05]: The artist also won best picture.
52:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, but you're right in with it.
52:48
[SPEAKER_05]: I just don't know who.
52:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Hold on, let me see.
52:51
[SPEAKER_05]: He didn't win.
52:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's just suggested as a comedic performance.
52:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, oh, oh, oh.
52:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Any red man for the theory of everything.
53:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my gosh.
53:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you a red man series?
53:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, did I like that movie?
53:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's hard.
53:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That movie's a tough one.
53:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That movie's a tough one.
53:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That movie's a tough one.
53:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
53:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And he got many, what the year after the day in this girl?
53:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember watching this.
53:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still on supporting actor, though, because I haven't seen the sentimental value, but I think Stalin is incredible.
53:30
[SPEAKER_04]: But to me, I'm torn between the middle three.
53:34
[SPEAKER_04]: and mainly Bill Roy and Sean.
53:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So my theory, truthfully, like, if you're going up a former slice and character create it, I think that, I think that Academy has warmed up to him, but Sean Penn, like Sean Penn is the guy, but I think Sean Penn is so rude, like he shits on the Oscars so much.
53:55
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he didn't show up for the actor awards.
53:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he's going to win though.
53:59
[SPEAKER_05]: You think you think he is?
54:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's an undeniable performance.
54:02
[SPEAKER_05]: I think so too.
54:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
54:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I love all of these nominees.
54:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I haven't seen sentimental value.
54:08
[SPEAKER_05]: It's literally the only film I haven't seen.
54:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good actor emotional film.
54:15
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think you're right.
54:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Shopping is the best.
54:17
[SPEAKER_02]: If they're right, pulls it off, it's because he's likable.
54:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what?
54:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm okay with this, because I feel like a lot of white women have won Oscar because they've been likable.
54:24
[SPEAKER_05]: So, oh my god, in 94, Skylar saying that he thinks, no way, if you don't include a John Desjardine for the winning in the artist, which I haven't seen.
54:42
[SPEAKER_05]: I've seen it.
54:43
[SPEAKER_05]: He is funny.
54:44
[SPEAKER_05]: He is funny.
54:45
[SPEAKER_05]: It is funny.
54:46
[SPEAKER_05]: That was literally the first time I've since I've been a teenager.
54:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yes, there we go.
54:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Nicole, Jack, Jack, Nick is in as good as it gets, but that's 1998.
55:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
55:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, also Jack Nicholson and one of his last films, even on the one knew that, but it's true.
55:06
[SPEAKER_05]: You're so right, you're out because I remember when Ray Fines was nominated for the Grand Budapest Hotel.
55:12
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought he should have won that year.
55:13
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember one that year, but I was like, I was like, three Fines is not going to
55:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it stems from somebody that's crazy.
55:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Nope, that's crazy, but I think it's something like that.
55:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think about it in just take it out of the Oscars.
55:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Think about like in our regular acting life, whether you're in an acting class, you have actor friends, I have so many friends who disparage comedy and they say, well, like, what do you do comedy?
55:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, bitch, I can do both, but I think it's a thing of people assume is easy.
55:42
[SPEAKER_02]: and I think when you look at the Oscars because someone didn't like get their legs shot off or like the kid didn't get kidnapped is like
55:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You feel like they're not acting enough, you know?
55:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Where's like Johnny Depp?
55:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Johnny Depp was nominated for Paris and Paris, bro.
55:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Captain Jack's Marrow was not like that on the paper.
56:00
[SPEAKER_02]: We all know it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the studio talks about it.
56:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it you?
56:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He did so.
56:04
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't really remember how funny Roberto Benini was in life he's beautiful even though that's, you know, clearly a Holocaust film, but I remember.
56:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's true.
56:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that was the best thing you're right after.
56:17
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a drama, though, because he was trying to make a sense of that, but we're saying, I mean, I still think one battle after another is a drama too.
56:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting, but I, yeah, I think Sean pins probably going win it.
56:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I think deroy, I think he had, I think everything happened to him when that.
56:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a tricky part, so I want to address.
56:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Oscar nominations the voting started around the Baptist.
56:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot happened.
56:46
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of stuff has happened in that week and a half.
56:50
[SPEAKER_05]: And Timothy lost the BAFTA and then he lost the actor of the word.
56:54
[SPEAKER_05]: So his his star has faded and and he's now he's had all this now.
56:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, there actually seems to be a concerted.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I will say this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It does feel like there's a concerted effort for people to hate Timothy.
57:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I think so.
57:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I agree.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But Tesla has there even before this recent ballet, opera thing that he said, Tesla showed me like three different videos that she saw of like Timothy Shalame like
57:25
[SPEAKER_05]: same crazy stuff like some of it was like on zoom calls like a talking shit in campaigns of like she kept showing me this and I was like I literally was like your algorithm is trying to make you hate this man yeah and she's like you're right and also what's so crazy is he has there's also videos because I will say I I'd defend Timothy Shalamey a lot because he says some shit I think I think
57:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's so real.
57:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I want to be one of the best.
57:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, if we were at the least, that's what we would say.
57:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if we were, if you were in the NBA, you're like, I want to be one of the best.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why would you not?
57:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't, well, the confesses always commented on those, on those particular quotes of his.
58:04
[SPEAKER_04]: And I have always said, I fully get it.
58:06
[SPEAKER_04]: It's his right to say that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He wants to be one of the best.
58:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what, like, I might think he's a little asshole.
58:13
[SPEAKER_05]: The problem is you don't need to be liked when you play sports, you know, when you're an actor, you kind of need to be liked.
58:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, people like to come and see you.
58:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I get that.
58:29
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
58:30
[SPEAKER_05]: But you're right.
58:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I agree.
58:31
[SPEAKER_05]: There is a level of cockiness that for a time was very charming, but I think,
58:40
[SPEAKER_05]: it has a sense tipped and I don't think it's necessarily all his fall.
58:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, people are using real things that he said, but I think they're like, you know.
58:48
[SPEAKER_05]: They're just in direct quotes.
58:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a kid no more.
58:52
[SPEAKER_02]: He ain't a kid no more, he ain't cute.
58:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that man grown now.
58:55
[SPEAKER_02]: If he was still like a little cute little small Timmy, nah, that nigga, that nigga in full.
59:00
[SPEAKER_05]: But uh, yeah.
59:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, anyway, I, but you're right, a lot has happened.
59:05
[SPEAKER_05]: The Baptist happened, the actor awards, W.J.
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[SPEAKER_05]: awards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I would say Sean pins when I win, but I do think because of everything this happened, D'Aroy has a shot.
59:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I think D'Aroy has the,
59:18
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, but I think he got a shot.
59:21
[SPEAKER_05]: We would think about best actor who we got I think yeah I think we were talking about I think it's Michael B. Jordan.
59:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so James you got Mike who you got to me
59:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, oh, no, I'm sleeping.
59:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I want Michael B. Jordan to win.
59:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd say it is Michael B. Jordan went that Oscar bro.
59:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going out.
59:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of you, a party in Hollywood.
59:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
59:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, if you leave, it would be a sneaky it.
59:42
[SPEAKER_05]: That would be like the Emma Stone win, right?
59:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Cause she, yeah, she didn't.
59:45
[SPEAKER_05]: It would be like she didn't win anything up into that.
59:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that made me so, which win, which win her poor things win.
59:53
[SPEAKER_05]: It was just kind of like, what?
59:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
59:55
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that was a good, that was a good part.
59:56
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a good part.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That was a good part.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_05]: What do we think about cinematography?
1:00:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she's winning, bro.
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, what does she name?
1:00:06
[SPEAKER_02]: She centers, she's, if she doesn't get it, if she doesn't get it, in 98 years of the Oscars,
1:00:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, like you think it'll give it to her just because it's like this is the best shot.
1:00:18
[SPEAKER_05]: They've have of a woman winning Best cinematographer.
1:00:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the movie is she's going up against I think she did the best job But I also think like yo if you don't give it to this woman right now Like
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's going to have against, I mean, if it would be the other contender, would it be one battle after another?
1:00:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be, and I will say this, one battle after another.
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Amen.
1:00:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
1:00:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty, pretty good.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So much time for it.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, man.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, listen, bro.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We offer that car.
1:00:43
[SPEAKER_02]: We also had a car scene at the end.
1:00:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on now.
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, man.
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good.
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on now.
1:00:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Them of the rooftops, the end.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, break.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_02]: That makes a rooftop scene.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_02]: The chase, the chase after the, the bank robbery gone wrong.
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean,
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_05]: a lot of one shot stuff happening that was really fun.
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I will say that justification, uh, one better one that is in the top of the list to a woman is like, that's, that's, they're not thinking they don't care.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they care.
1:01:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree James.
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they can.
1:01:13
[SPEAKER_05]: They've had plenty of times to do this thing, and they still haven't cared.
1:01:16
[SPEAKER_04]: It'll be great if it happens, but, um, I don't think anybody, um, is thinking about it in that same way.
1:01:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Damn.
1:01:23
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
1:01:27
[SPEAKER_05]: So then, okay, so let's do the, let's do the, let's do the, let's do the other two, directing, so there's directing and there's best picture.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Now the question is, is it going to split or is both going to go to one in 98 years of the Academy Awards, a black person, manal woman has never won best director.
1:01:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Correct.
1:01:51
[SPEAKER_02]: In 98 years.
1:01:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And my fear is they're going to put another.
1:01:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a lot of land.
1:01:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be another lot of land.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Moonlight, I mean, uh, moonlight and the thing is, I'm worried because I don't know if you think you've really, do it.
1:02:09
[SPEAKER_05]: So do you actually think one battle after another might win directing and then lose best picture?
1:02:16
[SPEAKER_02]: No, Bray.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don
1:02:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Sinners wins both, but I don't think that's actually gonna happen.
1:02:42
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess Sinners could win best picture and PTA wins best director as well Um, but I don't See that happening.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_05]: I just don't see that.
1:02:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I will say this is hard because as Popular as Ryan cooler himself is he has not been winning best director like he didn't win at the BGA No, no, no, no, no, no, no, of course not they love PTA
1:03:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They do they do and I think so basically when I'm saying for And he hasn't won actually so great.
1:03:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So great.
1:03:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing like Lily when I'm getting at is like when autumn I'm like, oh, this is the best chance to give a woman in the war.
1:03:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is their best chance to get PTA in the war I don't think PTA is gonna have another movie this big he probably have another good Oscar movie, but not this big not this popular not with this much But also think sinners was a movie that wasn't supposed to
1:03:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you think about everything people talk about like the promotion of it like how the reviews came out Sinners wasn't supposed to be as big as it was like yeah, but my thing about about sinners Not being supposed to be as big as it was is like Is I compared to Parasite like when they were like oh my god We got to give everything to to boom John Ho like we got it.
1:03:55
[SPEAKER_04]: He got and he got did he get directing that ever see
1:04:01
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing is don't think, okay, the shape of the academy might be different now, or the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it might be different, you did, right, okay, they rock with black people the same way, like I don't think, I think, I don't think they rock with black people the same way, I think they're, like I think if anything, they're be like, look at all of the nominations it got.
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_04]: cool.
1:04:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he doesn't have to win best.
1:04:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know, well, here's the other thing that's going to give him screenplay and because he wrote the screenplay, they're like we gave you an Oscar.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_05]: They did that.
1:04:39
[SPEAKER_05]: They did that despite.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_04]: We're missing.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_04]: It was fine.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_05]: I enjoyed it.
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_05]: And Jordan Peele.
1:04:43
[SPEAKER_05]: And Jordan.
1:04:43
[SPEAKER_04]: And Jordan.
1:04:46
[SPEAKER_04]: And I want to be like, they have a chance to write these wrongs that they did, but I have been burned too many times to think that they won't.
1:04:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I would love to be surprised.
1:04:59
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just this weekend.
1:05:00
[SPEAKER_04]: We got to, at the time we recorded this, we got like five days.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_04]: So like, I might be pleasantly surprised, but I don't, I think it's the first option that you said, where GTA wins.
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_04]: wins both right and I would love for I would love to be wrong.
1:05:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I would I would it would be the happiest day Could you I might I would be honest and I mean this and I'd like Paul Thomas Anderson like bookie nice I I liked one bad laughs or another but I do not think Come 24 20 26
1:05:36
[SPEAKER_02]: anyone will be talking about one ballot after another.
1:05:39
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
1:05:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I think people, no.
1:05:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was going to be a lot of smoke and a lot of stacks come Halloween.
1:05:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be a lot of smoke slash halies.
1:05:48
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I think it's going to be, well, sure to me, to me, because to me, sinners is a, it's a holy original movie that while it's certainly Oscar worthy,
1:06:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And they certainly made decisions to try to position themselves to win Oscars.
1:06:08
[SPEAKER_04]: It does not have the vibe of Oscar bait movie.
1:06:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Whereas when a battle after another is a movie where they're like, great.
1:06:16
[SPEAKER_04]: People are going to talk about this in December through March.
1:06:20
[SPEAKER_04]: It'll win some awards.
1:06:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And then hopefully no one ever at PTA can do the next one, Leo can do the next one.
1:06:26
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to do the next one.
1:06:28
[SPEAKER_04]: But sinners is like,
1:06:29
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a singular thing that has become an event, has become a, you know, right.
1:06:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is so tricky because even thinking about it, people keep saying it centers and I agree, and like Brad just said it too, like everyone's like, sinners of blockbuster, but when you look at the budget and the market in,
1:06:49
[SPEAKER_02]: One battle had a way more than sinners than what 90 roughly for the budget, I think I looked, I was in it to the town and they were joking about what the one battle after another budget ended up being.
1:07:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they say 130, but everyone says it's 175.
1:07:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that is so much more money.
1:07:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, that's a goddamn blockbuster.
1:07:08
[SPEAKER_02]: What a huge discrepancy.
1:07:10
[SPEAKER_02]: 130 to 175.
1:07:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone in so on the town, they were like, it's 175.
1:07:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And it kept saying like, why it was that?
1:07:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't remember right now.
1:07:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But like 175.
1:07:20
[SPEAKER_02]: But even thinking about a 175.
1:07:21
[SPEAKER_05]: It's less 90 to it.
1:07:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is one battle not considered a blockbuster?
1:07:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it didn't make no fucking money.
1:07:29
[SPEAKER_05]: And that is true.
1:07:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's also definitely, it's also the genre.
1:07:34
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the genre.
1:07:35
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to see the Leo sunglasses rope Halloween.
1:07:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, for those who are wondering, one battle after another made 209 million and sinners made 370 million.
1:07:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it made 209 million, is it?
1:07:49
[SPEAKER_02]: What battle?
1:07:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 209, when you're moving calls to 175.
1:07:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we're in our promotion.
1:07:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:07:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Bro, they're great.
1:07:59
[SPEAKER_05]: They're great.
1:08:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, if this will be probably going win, and what makes me sad about it is, I think if they were to call Ryan Coulouse name and sinners name for Best Picture, I don't think I believe it.
1:08:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'd be like, these niggas laugh.
1:08:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:08:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Hollywood has tainted me so much that I saw them walk on stage.
1:08:16
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't believe it.
1:08:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't see it happening, and I would say it's less, even though.
1:08:23
[SPEAKER_05]: the black bias is a huge part of it.
1:08:25
[SPEAKER_05]: I would actually say the horror bias is yes, I agree.
1:08:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Even heavier.
1:08:29
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, they bought the call out Warren baby.
1:08:32
[SPEAKER_04]: He goes say one center after another.
1:08:36
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, what?
1:08:37
[SPEAKER_05]: What did I say?
1:08:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I do really like the other thing about one battle after another and I and I really love that film.
1:08:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I think one of the reasons that it is such a trendy pick outside of its own obviously artistic merits is the fact that it is dealing with, you know, in a tertiary way.
1:08:58
[SPEAKER_05]: It is dealing with like immigration and, you know, revolution revolutionary acts.
1:09:06
[SPEAKER_05]: uh, in a time where people are yearning for that, even if it's not necessarily happening, I, uh, and it's also, yeah, I think like there is, it feels,
1:09:19
[SPEAKER_05]: I would say it, I think people have criticized it as having the trappings of being relevant without actually dealing with those issues directly, which I think is fair criticism.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it says more than some people give a credit for it, but it also certainly isn't just about the social political setting backdrop that it's it for the movies in, whereas sinners,
1:09:43
[SPEAKER_05]: actually saying a lot in a social political way, but it's backdrop is more kind of like because it's like setting, you know, what is it?
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_05]: 30s?
1:09:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Which one, um, centers?
1:09:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, thanks so.
1:09:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
1:09:58
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's a vampire movie.
1:10:00
[SPEAKER_05]: People like don't take it as seriously.
1:10:03
[SPEAKER_05]: That being said, a good year for movies.
1:10:06
[SPEAKER_05]: I wanted to quickly say, HamNet, I enjoy Jesse Buckley's probably going to win Best Actress.
1:10:14
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the casting of that movie was done really well, specifically the children.
1:10:18
[SPEAKER_05]: There's like several children in that movie.
1:10:20
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's so hard to cast kids.
1:10:22
[SPEAKER_05]: And like, man, they found some good, like this little kid who's like the little boy, the son, Shakespeare son.
1:10:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
1:10:33
[SPEAKER_05]: He's the freaking adorable, but also like my man was acting his butt off.
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_05]: So, just want to give props to that.
1:10:42
[SPEAKER_05]: I saw the live action shorts surprisingly like all of them were pretty good.
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_05]: There was one that I was a little bit like.
1:10:52
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw one.
1:10:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw the bar one.
1:10:55
[SPEAKER_02]: The singers.
1:10:56
[SPEAKER_02]: The singers.
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw that one.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_05]: That was good.
1:10:59
[SPEAKER_02]: That was good.
1:10:59
[SPEAKER_05]: It's really fun.
1:11:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that would be my dark horse pick.
1:11:05
[SPEAKER_05]: There's another one called Butcher Stain and that has to deal with.
1:11:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I believe it's a Palestinian, I mean, it's certainly somebody Arab within Israel, he's a butcher and he is accused of ripping the photos of the hostages off the wall in the break room of the, you know, like the store.
1:11:29
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's just about that and it's done really well.
1:11:34
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, it's a great short that I hope people get to see.
1:11:38
[SPEAKER_05]: I think sometimes the
1:11:43
[SPEAKER_05]: using the short film or doctor short documentary to like a war to like talk about the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
1:11:52
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think there's a chance that that would that will win.
1:11:55
[SPEAKER_05]: I know there's like there's also push back to that inside of Hollywood as well.
1:12:00
[SPEAKER_05]: It's very divided.
1:12:02
[SPEAKER_05]: The other short that people should check out is two people exchanging saliva.
1:12:06
[SPEAKER_05]: It is in one
1:12:10
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a short, where, uh, slaps our currency.
1:12:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That's hilarious.
1:12:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:12:23
[SPEAKER_05]: And kissing is banned.
1:12:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:12:27
[SPEAKER_02]: but slaps our currency.
1:12:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, check that out.
1:12:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and then the documentary shorts.
1:12:33
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, documentary short, not shorts.
1:12:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Documentary.
1:12:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, wait.
1:12:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Documentary shorts aren't with only a camera.
1:12:39
[SPEAKER_05]: All of all, all the ones that I saw.
1:12:40
[SPEAKER_05]: All the empty rooms, the devil's busy were all good.
1:12:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Armed with only a camera was was my favorite.
1:12:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I haven't seen, there's another, uh, Palestinian one called Children No More.
1:12:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, it's literally like black.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like that movie is black ball.
1:12:53
[SPEAKER_05]: You can't watch it anywhere.
1:12:57
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not available, it's not in theaters, it's not on streaming, you can't rent it, you can't buy it like it's nowhere, which is very telling.
1:13:08
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the feature film, there's the Alabama solution, which is about the prisons, Alabama prisons, it's freaking, that will make you want to light the world on fire.
1:13:20
[SPEAKER_05]: The perfect neighbor.
1:13:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't watch that.
1:13:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not good.
1:13:25
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
1:13:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.
1:13:26
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a, maybe I don't want to know.
1:13:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, no, it's about, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's about a woman, uh, basically a Karen, a real-life Karen, who, constantly is calling the cops on her, uh, on these black children.
1:13:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and yeah, and it's all.
1:13:52
[SPEAKER_05]: It's all told through police camera footage, basically, and there's some news footage clip at the end.
1:14:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and obviously it ends horribly.
1:14:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, it ends horribly.
1:14:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want.
1:14:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
1:14:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Why, uh, they have to do that.
1:14:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't.
1:14:08
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it's like it's it's a I mean I guess she goes to prison if that's Yes, there we go.
1:14:17
[SPEAKER_05]: There we go.
1:14:17
[SPEAKER_05]: There we go.
1:14:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm dry Wait, she goes to prison.
1:14:20
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
1:14:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, right yeah, it is it is for murder
1:14:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, well, that's a good movie details that I needed to hear and then yeah, that's all I got.
1:14:50
[SPEAKER_05]: That's all else I wanted to say.
1:14:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Is there anything else you guys wanted?
1:14:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, some of the, I saw a lot, a lot of these films were fun.
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, there's that there's a movie for, um, what is that movie?
1:15:02
[SPEAKER_02]: The billboards and L.A. being like, screw your um,
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the Korean film that didn't get nominated.
1:15:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no other choice.
1:15:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they have all the billboards in LAB.
1:15:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, uh, FIA.
1:15:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what a good billboard.
1:15:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:15:19
[SPEAKER_05]: I wasn't blown away by no other choice.
1:15:21
[SPEAKER_05]: I know I know you liked it.
1:15:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I know you liked it.
1:15:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I know Skyler liked it.
1:15:26
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I will say, I just watch, uh, it was just an accident, and if no other choice was nominated over that, I wouldn't be complaining at all.
1:15:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I didn't think it was worth, I didn't think it was, that's picture, I don't know.
1:15:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I, I, I wasn't, I thought it was good.
1:15:39
[SPEAKER_05]: I just, anyway, whatever I am, I own problems with it.
1:15:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh,
1:15:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I goodness.
1:15:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, what else was that?
1:15:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Pagonia, man.
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_05]: I do think people should see Pagonia.
1:15:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, Pagonia.
1:15:50
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
1:15:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's the one thing that's going to be slept on.
1:15:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Good.
1:15:54
[SPEAKER_05]: The acting is so good.
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Jessie Plumman's, I think it's the only group that I care about.
1:16:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe it.
1:16:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, leave it in the screen.
1:16:03
[SPEAKER_05]: That's crazy.
1:16:04
[SPEAKER_02]: He was, he was screwed, whatever.
1:16:08
[SPEAKER_05]: I really enjoy train dreams.
1:16:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I honestly wouldn't have been mad if what's the same got nominated from train dreams.
1:16:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I just see train dreams.
1:16:14
[SPEAKER_02]: The trailer looked like...
1:16:18
[SPEAKER_05]: It looked like I was gonna have this.
1:16:20
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a sleepy time movie.
1:16:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
1:16:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Joel Edgerton, thank you.
1:16:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Joel Edgerton, I thought was great in train dreams.
1:16:25
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a sleepy movie.
1:16:26
[SPEAKER_05]: You have to be in the right mood to see it.
1:16:28
[SPEAKER_05]: But I enjoyed it.
1:16:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I couldn't get through blue moon, guys.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm so sorry.
1:16:34
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a play movie.
1:16:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Blue moon.
1:16:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
1:16:37
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the Ethan Hawke film that he's not ready for everyone loves him and he's very loved play.
1:16:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Or what do you mean when you say play moving?
1:16:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if it's based on a play, I mean, it's a play movie in the sense that it all takes place in one location, and it's a lot of talking, a lot of talking, and the other thing about it that I truly was, the reason I was like, I was bored watching it, and then I was like, when I realized that this whole movie was going to be about a love story between Ethan Hawke and what's your name from the substance, uh, the young girl.
1:17:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, um, uh, Margaret Qualey?
1:17:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Margaret Qualey.
1:17:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I was just like, I just can't, uh, I think this is gross, and I think Hollywood is gross for, is that what that is?
1:17:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Always promoting these movies.
1:17:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's gross.
1:17:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I just, I'm not into it.
1:17:27
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, yes, and I just was like, and I was just like, I'm supposed to like, I don't care even how that movie ends.
1:17:36
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, I'm supposed, it's, it's, um,
1:17:40
[SPEAKER_05]: it's it's based off a real person and there was like this is a real thing that happened but I'm like I it's not cute like this isn't cute and I don't know why Hollywood keeps wanting me to think that like men it who are like 30 to 40 years older than a woman like a woman in her 20s and like that's a love story that I'm supposed to like no like champion
1:18:09
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, okay, Margaret Quelli is 31 now, but still she freaking looks like she's 25.
1:18:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but also Ethan Hawke is like in his 50s.
1:18:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:18:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're not wrong.
1:18:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's still on his 50s.
1:18:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
1:18:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:18:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's 55.
1:18:26
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
1:18:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
1:18:28
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
1:18:28
[SPEAKER_05]: That's all I got.
1:18:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, guys.
1:18:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We did it.
1:18:31
[SPEAKER_05]: we did it.
1:18:33
[SPEAKER_05]: We did it.
1:18:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I hope everybody enjoys or does an enjoy you can mad at it, you know, tell us all the other stuff.
1:18:42
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe Elio was nominated for a best animated feature.
1:18:47
[SPEAKER_05]: There just clearly wasn't enough.
1:18:49
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
1:18:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think we talked about everything else, right?
1:18:53
[SPEAKER_05]: We talked about.
1:18:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:18:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I saw the secret agent.
1:18:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I had so long.
1:18:59
[SPEAKER_05]: He was really long.
1:19:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think sentimental value is going to win best international film.
1:19:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so too.
1:19:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
1:19:11
[SPEAKER_05]: You think over, you think over secret agent?
1:19:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I think so.
1:19:14
[SPEAKER_05]: The secret agent, first of all, I'm still here one last year.
1:19:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Didn't I'm still here one?
1:19:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:19:20
[SPEAKER_05]: And that was also about Brazil in the same time period.
1:19:23
[SPEAKER_05]: So I found it, I was like, oh, wow.
1:19:26
[SPEAKER_05]: People who were interested in this error for, but the other thing about the secret agent was like, I just felt like it was so over my head.
1:19:34
[SPEAKER_05]: There were a lot of it, don't get me wrong.
1:19:37
[SPEAKER_05]: There were a lot of parts of that movie that I really enjoyed.
1:19:40
[SPEAKER_05]: But I wasn't, again, it wasn't blown away.
1:19:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Bye.
1:19:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I was with some of some other, in before and films that I've seen, like, like, the anatomy of a fall.
1:19:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, that was a, that was, that was a, that was a, that's a good one.
1:19:57
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
1:19:57
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1:20:23
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1:20:29
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1:20:35
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1:20:38
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1:20:40
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1:21:01
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1:21:05
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1:21:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
1:21:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Bray in James Holden at a down, but a West Coast.
1:21:10
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1:21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: March 17th.
1:21:13
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
1:21:13
[SPEAKER_02]: March 17th, 9.
1:21:14
[SPEAKER_02]: 15 to the New York comedy club.
1:21:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be doing some jokes.
1:21:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
1:21:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know when I'm going.
1:21:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to beat it.
1:21:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Do some jokes.
1:21:22
[SPEAKER_02]: New York comedy club.
1:21:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Do some jokes.
1:21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Do some joky jokes.
1:21:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It's him Jokey jokes March 17th.
1:21:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to lie to y'all.
1:21:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Depending on what time I go up, I might be lit.
1:21:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Some jokes might be fired.
1:21:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I might be lit.
1:21:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's going to be a good time.
1:21:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it's going to be a good time.
1:21:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You can find tickets on New York comedyclub.com or I'm going to put it in my um, in my bio on Instagram.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got to be club.
1:21:49
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a fun room.
1:21:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:21:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I've only been there once a long time ago.
1:21:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So I remember what it was like.
1:21:54
[SPEAKER_04]: That'll be fun.
1:21:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in in a minute.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, what else you got?
1:21:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, he found me at two o'clock in the evening.
1:22:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, he found me at two o'clock in the evening.
1:22:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, we're day out of days.
1:22:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice shit to start it.
1:22:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he found me out of there.
1:22:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he found me out of there.
1:22:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:22:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, last thing I'll say, um, I actually enjoyed song, song Blue.
1:22:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I did too!
1:22:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and Kate Hudson was really good at it.
1:22:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I had that, I did, I was interested.
1:22:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't go though.
1:22:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that, and if I had links, I can kick you.
1:22:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I think both of those movies are worth watching.
1:22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Truly enjoy Osperon was really good.
1:22:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she'd be the runner up for me from the Oscars.
1:22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she's not going to burn.
1:22:34
[SPEAKER_02]: She's not really.
1:22:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:22:38
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, check those out too.
1:22:40
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
1:22:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, all right.
1:22:42
[SPEAKER_05]: See you in two weeks.
1:22:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Peace.
1:22:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Please.