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MotoGP Czechia 2025 Round 12 Recap in S5 Ep 16 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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Listen to the Be Favorite Cool podcast.
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My name is Rex 45 Tonight we got TJ in the building.
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We got Cheetah 740 in the building.
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We got the real Luis Ortega. What's going on, fellas?
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What's good, What's good? What's happening, man?
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Can't complain. It's beautiful weather down here
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in in Florida. Where am I in Florida?
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So I, I sorry, I really can't complain.
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So how are things up there in Boston, TJ?
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You know it's back down to cool, but this is how everyone likes
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it. It's in the 7075 range, but you
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know bikes out everywhere is what I like to see everyone's
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bright and safe. It's for the most part, but All
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in all, what a great weekend racing for all the classes.
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So I can't wait to get into it. That's.
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What's up? That's what's up.
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How about yourself, Cheetah Man? How you doing tonight?
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Good, man. It just rained outside in
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Atlanta, but it's more humid than ever.
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My windows are foggy outside. It's, it's a weird, some weird
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weather going on. But yeah, man, I'm, I'm happy
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because I got the, I got to get out on the bike over the
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weekend. The bicycle that is still got to
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watch some, some GP along the way.
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So it's a good weekend. What What kind of bike you ride?
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The Trek Domani I did. I did my first fifty mile ride
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this weekend. So it was.
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It was fun. Yeah.
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A little bicycle, yeah. Oh.
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Nice, nice. That's what's up.
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No, I, I, I, I ride a cycle cross and I have a carbon
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specialized in Boston I'm actually going to bring down.
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Yeah, we're going to have to ride one of these.
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Days. Yeah, yeah, we're going to have
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to ride, man, for sure. What's going on, Louis?
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Man, how are things? I I I know you're busy over
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there at least changing your house.
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Maybe not the world. I know it's it's a good weekend
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busy like like you said, they got a lot of projects going on,
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but you know, still found time to catch the racing this
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weekend, break the monotony of the weekend with, you know,
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watching the guys go back to Bruno for the first time in
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several years and and some pretty competitive racing.
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Man, it was actually a really good weekend.
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I had a lot of new faces. Yeah, we're going.
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We're going to jump into that. I was trying to get track stars
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to come on tonight, but we'll. We'll see what happens.
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He don't want it. He don't want any of this.
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We'll see what happens next week, but you know, you, you
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know, you kind of segue right into the first thing I was going
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to talk about, which is it's been five years for Moto GP, six
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years for the fans in in Bruno. We'll start with TJ, man.
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I mean, what do you think of the crowd being over?
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I think it was over 230 + 1000 people coming out for the
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weekend. You know, I can't imagine, you
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know, having a sport taken away and you know, motorcycle is huge
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over in Europe being taken away for that many years.
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You know, we, we're very fortunate over in the US.
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What are your thoughts about that Moto GP going back to Bruno
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I? Think it's I think it's awesome.
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I mean, when I first started watching Moto GPI think they
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were at this track and I like it and it's a good layout, called
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it the Adrenaline track or something like that.
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And it's such a long layout and to have that many fans there,
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it's pretty cool. Like when you love you think
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there's like bleachers. It's just all grass.
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They're just sitting all on the grass.
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I mean most tracks are like that, but can't really even see
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the grass just all over the place there.
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There's just fans everywhere and I don't know who they really
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root for there. I'm not sure if there's a
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there's a. What is it in the Dutch?
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They they, they, they root for the European.
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Yeah. So, but it's good for that type
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of turn out, you know, So it's good to have things like that.
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I wish we had that in Coda, you know?
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Yeah, it's I think so. I think it's definitely dope to
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have the Czech Republic. When I was at Austin, I heard
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some of the media guys talking about how nice it was going to
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be when they got to Bruno. And it seems from the track
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being resurfaced and stuff like that, it's a pretty fast track.
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In some of the media questions they asked some of the guys, and
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this is the Cheetah, they were talking about how an F1 they
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have mandatory tracks and they were asking what tracks should
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they make mandatory in in Moto GP?
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And a lot of the guys say, Bruno, so you know, we're all
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riders, but what are your thoughts of that being a
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mandatory track and also just, you know, overall weekend and
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and Moto GP going back there? That's a cool thing.
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I didn't hear that question, but it's it's, it's cool to have
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favourites like that. As riders, we all like want to
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go back to certain tracks because other a the racetrack is
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just suited for the riding style of everyone.
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It's just suited for these bikes.
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It's safer in some ways. You can get to go faster and
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feel sort of safer. Some tracks are very, very risky
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and you know, we still go back to those tracks even though the
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pavements really bad. But you know, that's that's
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interesting that to say that I'd I'd be curious.
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I would I would also imagine that a lot of riders that said,
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yes, they want to go back, make the favorite track.
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They have different reasons why, right.
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So maybe some win there more or whatever it may be, but it's a
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great track. I know we went back there a few
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years back. We used to have some really good
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battles. So it's really good to see.
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And the passing is interesting. You have to do it where you're,
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it's, it's always in the soup switchbacks, you know, you
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always have to be put it on the inside on somebody on the
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switchbacks, pretty much all you can do for passing there or on
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the breaking zone on the first three corners really.
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So I like it a lot. It's a fun track to watch.
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Lewis the numbers guy. I mean, what do you think?
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Do you think it was numbers? Why they weren't at Bruno for a
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little bit or I think, I don't know if they were protesting
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wars that were close by, but you.
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Know it's the Czech Republic. I don't think they really have
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too many wars going on. No, I think, you know, maybe
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this is a little inside baseball, but the previous owner
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of the track was called Abraham's father.
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And it's interesting that they stopped going to the track right
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around the time Kyle Abraham stopped getting funding from his
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dad to keep racing in Moto GP. OK.
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So I don't know if, you know, maybe they had a little bit of
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falling out with the family because his son couldn't get a
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ride or he didn't want to keep supporting his son's racing
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career because it wasn't really going anywhere.
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But I know that the new owner took over the track in 2023, and
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since then they've been in negotiations to try to get Moto
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GP back on the schedule in Bruno.
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So, you know, I'm glad it's coming back because obviously
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the attendance shows that, you know, people do like to go watch
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Moto GP at that track. That track has been on the
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schedule for a long time and it's a unique track because it's
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got a lot of elevation change. It's got a fast, fast sections,
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it's got flowy sections. It's got a lot of strange 90° /
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90° chicanes. So there's a little bit of
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everything. And that's I think that's one of
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the reasons we saw such an interesting mix of different
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manufacturers up towards the front, because it did lean on
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some of the strengths of the KTM and it leaned on some of the
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strengths of the Aprilia and that's why we see the mix.
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But it didn't lean on the strengths of like some of the
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other bikes. So you saw that, you know,
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Yamaha struggled a little bit, Honda struggled a little bit,
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but the bikes with more horsepower got a little bit
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better. So, you know, again, this is one
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of those tracks that benefits some bikes, doesn't benefits
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other bikes, but it's a cool track.
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I've always enjoyed watching race into this track and seeing
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220 people show up over the weekend.
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That's that's a massive number, man.
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Yeah, something to blink your eye out.
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No, it is. And I think it's the when I,
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when I, well, I was thinking of the Ukraine war with Russia and
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looking at the map, they're not that far apart.
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So that's, that's what was in my mind somewhere.
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But let's jump into the the weekend itself.
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You know, Pekko had to go through Q1 and got pole position
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and so forth. I thought it was going to be a
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more competitive race for him. What did you guys think?
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Were you guys surprised that Pekko was able to?
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Well, not, I'm probably not surprised at the part that he
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was in Q1 but got out of it and got pole position.
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We'll start with your TJ. Yeah, Pekko is not supposed to
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be in Q1. So I mean, for him to, you know,
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even put himself through that when he already knows his
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struggles. I mean, like, it is rewarding to
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get polled and you know, it is racing.
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But I think he only got polled just because I forget the reason
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why, but something happened where he ended up actually
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getting polled. Thing Mark Marquez was actually
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on a the one of the fastest lap he was ever on and then he
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crashed like two corners before. It's like a flag.
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Right, right. He he he said he saw Zarko
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crashed in the same corner before him and he saw the dust,
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and that distracted him. And he was on a fly.
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I mean, you know, you know, it's you know.
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So yeah, go ahead. But no, I gave it to him like
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he, I want to see him build his confidence.
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You know, he is a really good writer.
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I know we've been getting on him all the time, all all year.
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But I think he deserved the poll for sure.
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You know, the spring was a different story.
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Got you Cheetah. What do you think about it?
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Does Peko use this as motivation as he's because he seems to be
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sorting it out a little bit over the last three rounds.
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Even mentioned that in in pre press conference as well.
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Do you mean granted he you know, 4th and 7th may not be the
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results he wanted this weekend? Is that motivation to say hey
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you know this is pretty good. second-half of the season is
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going to come up in about 3 weeks.
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I should be good probably 2 races after that.
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I don't think so. Just knowing Petco himself, like
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I think Petco has always been like a slow starter.
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He's always been slow in the pre practices and then he sort of
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picks up in Q2Q1Q2 wherever he ends up.
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But even then he's like, sometimes you'll get pulled.
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But last year he was because I mean, it was, it was a different
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scenario. But I mean, I given that, you
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know, qualifying is, is a different tire, it's one lap,
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you know, I think they all know that sure, they got the pole.
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It's a great accomplishment. It is a morale boost.
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But at the end of the day, it's the race distance that matters,
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right? So I think for that aspect, I
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don't know if he was really motivated because he got a few
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other polls right this year. And no, he didn't get any polls
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this year. No, no, it's his first one.
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It's been the Marquez and Quadraro show.
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Got you. Yeah.
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And so I even still it's, it's, it's not something that's
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applicable to the race distance, you know, and that's where he
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struggles. He falls back more and more and
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more one lap at a time. At one point, you know, it's
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just like 1 after another. And so that's why I, I feel like
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he's still not feeling accomplished off a qualifying
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session. Just my opinion.
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Got you. What are your thoughts, Louis?
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I will throw this in and you guys can jump in after Louis
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talk about this and we talk about the Sprint because the
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factory they screwed up on the tire pressure, right?
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And it sounds like even in the in the main race itself, the
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bike just had way too much grip for that surface or the surface.
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It just has so much grip that the bike had a lot of vibration.
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What are your thoughts on Peckles pole position and also
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the struggles they had in the in the Sprint?
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I mean, he got a pole. I mean he did 1 fast lap that
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got him the pole. But if you looked at what Zarko
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was doing on the lap he crashed and Mark was doing, you know,
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they were about to clip his pole.
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I mean they were on the last sector pretty much and they were
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definitely going to take the pole either way.
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I mean, pole is pole. Whoever is there at the top,
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when the checkered flag waves, he's at the top regardless of
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whatever else happens. But if you look at his
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inconsistency through the warm ups and the fact that he had to
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go through Q1, like he was already showing that he's having
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some struggles and some other issues in the Sprint.
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I mean, he's had a horrible sprints all season.
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So seeing him in 7th in the Sprint wasn't a surprise because
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in a short distance race, you know, for some reason he just
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can't seem to put it together. I thought he would do a little
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bit better on Sunday and he did better on Sunday.
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But again, you know, he started having whatever issues he
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started having. But again, this is where a good
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rider and a great rider separate themselves.
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Marquez is having the same issues, but he finds way around
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the issues. And Petco runs into these issues
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and succumbs to the issues. He doesn't find his way around
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the issues. You know, Marquez jumped out
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front. He had a three plus second lead.
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He saw the tire pressure was messed up.
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What did he do? He turned into a track day
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coach, he slowed down, he let the guys pass him, he followed
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him, he showed him the line, Then he tapped his head and
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bounced and he still got another second and a half.
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Like that's embarrassing man. At that point, Paki shit up and
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go home. This dude is literally showing
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you he's faster than everybody else, has got more talent and is
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is just the best package. And that's the race that Pekko
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came in 7th. So Marquez having the same issue
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and wins, slows down, gives the the grid a chance and then still
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passes the grid to win. So again, Mark Pekko needs to
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find a way to work himself around the problem while he's on
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the bike, not in the pit, because he's obviously not
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finding the solution in the pit. So you got to find it out on the
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track. You got to find a way to change
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something about your riding style to help you overcome
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whatever obstacle you come across, man.
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But you know and you know, I think in Pecos case we had some
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overzealous track day guys just when he try let one person pass,
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three people passed. Hey, if you leave the door open,
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people gonna come in. It's called racing.
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It's gonna happen and and and when they and when you see a
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wounded fish, do you go? You know, it's like watching a
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wounded gazelle. Do you go against the really
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fast in shape gazelle or or this wounded gazelle right here looks
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looks tasty. We're about to eat him up.
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That's what they do it. His his crashing has been way
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down this year. I know past two seasons he's
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been, you know, always either a first or on the podium or just
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throwing it away completely. He needs to get back to that.
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Even when there's times going out to practice, they wanted to
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follow him. Mark Marquez was always trying
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to follow him, pick on him, and he's just not been that guy.
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And like you said, he's just throwing all those pieces on the
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front end and trying to have a change in the paddock.
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And we just have to get that around the problem because he's
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not the only rider that's had an issues.
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So everyone's running around issues.
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So he needs to go. He knows what he needs to do,
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but. Right, you do.
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You do make a. He needs to do.
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Yeah, you do. You do make a good point that I
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think he doesn't want to crash. Where Marquez he OK if he crash.
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I think Peko used to crash a lot and I think this year maybe he's
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being too cautious because he's not sending it down the road.
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He'd rather not deal with the bumpy situation or the you know,
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the lack of feel and you know, you know, you know, you know he
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he's still pretty fast, right, But just I think that's a
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different way. Mark don't mind if if he lose
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the front, you know, he'll he like he's he's trying to talk.
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He's trying to ride more like Petco and but you know, he's he,
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you know, and Petco probably needs to ride more like how
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Marquez ride where can't be. I mean, again, but it's tricky
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because you're crashing out for the season reason, you know, so
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you know, but I think he, you know, you make a good point
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there. I think, I think one thing is
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it's, it's, it's about the rider and getting out of his head.
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What you just said is sort of something that can get up in
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their head and they're scared of crashing, right?
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Or they're scared of losing those points if they crash,
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whatever it may be. He has to get out of his head
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because even the adjustments of Mark is just so quick and so
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fast. He's able to get back a spot and
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only a spot and not lose 2 spots.
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And if whenever he snaps his fingers, he's back in front of
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the the guy he wants to be in. I mean, the pace is obviously
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much, much faster than the guys around him.
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But Petco, I mean, he turned it down a little and then he turned
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it down a little too much. There's, you know, a cost
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everyone sneaking through. So it's, it's about like being
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able to and then make that back up at the end of the end of all
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that. Because if if that wasn't the
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case, would he have lost the pace anyways?
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You know, if he was falling back the way he did And he's such a
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late starter that he needs 15 laps to get going, then maybe
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this is a guy that's just not able to manage the bike well or
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the tires. Or he just needs to get warmed
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up mentally in the race and lose that many spots for him to be
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like, all right, now I'm going to just say, forget not
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crashing, forget all that. Let me just push and go through.
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So does it take him that long to get out of his head?
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Who knows? Only he knows because he's in
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his head. So we can all guess.
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But I mean, I think we all know the man's in his head.
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Right. You listen, No, no shade our old
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Fernandez, but he he you know, he, he was dealing with that for
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a while too and he seems to be figuring it out now because he
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has some really good results this past weekend as well.
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But what do you guys think of the other brands?
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You know what I mean? The KTM look good, Aprilia look
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good, the Yamahas and the and the Honda.
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I mean, are we to the season where these these other brands
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are just starting to figure out the the, the things that are
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wrong with their bikes and just making it better?
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What are your thoughts, TJ? Well, I was going to say that
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Petco maybe needs to lose spot kilos because, you know, Neil
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Gastonini just came out of nowhere and he got on the podium
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for KTM, so he looked at. Bull.
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He looked in that bull and saw death once he saw he was going
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to live. He's there.
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Listen, no more chances, man. This is it.
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I'm going for everything. It's also a track they have they
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haven't been to in a few years. So I don't know if that played
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any part. Obviously, you know, towards
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like the race, everyone's probably got all that data, but
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it was really good to see a mix of the manufacturers like Pedro
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Acosta actually being up there and they are being up there.
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Like a lot of the KTMS are up there.
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The COD is struggling a little bit, which is, you know, not
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normal, but you know, it was for for like both the mark, the
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Marquez and Pekko to have the tire pressure issue.
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You know, that made it interesting for, you know, the
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the manufacturers to come in and play.
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So it was also good to see Bazecki do what he was doing on
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the Australia Martine Pittsburgh round back officially.
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I think he did a pretty solid job, but I think it was really
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nice to see the KTM's finish one, it's two and three in a
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Sprint. Got you cheetah.
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Do you think that the guy should put in a petition to have all
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the tracks resurfaced because it seems like ATM had more grip.
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The previous had more grip. All the bikes had more grip on
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this track where you know they're going to go on to other
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tracks that are not resurfaced. Well, I was just reading up when
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you guys were talking. It was a debt issue.
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Apparently it was unpaid debt and resurfacing.
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So maybe there needs to be a lot more tracks where the unpaid
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debt gets settled with repaving, right?
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I don't know how that works. But no, I mean, it's it's great
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to see KTM is doing phenomenal right now.
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I mean, they're finally getting their bearings together.
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All the things they're testing out.
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Maybe it's all coming together. You know, we all want Vinales
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back, but Acosta, first time there at at Bruno and he's doing
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so good. That's what that's what they
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were talking about was like, wow, he's already in in 3rd
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place and everything he's got into second in the race, so
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really good. And Bassinini's right there.
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First place in the Sprint for a second.
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Yeah, for a second when it's allowed, but yeah, I mean, you
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know, Bassinini's doing good, but Betseki's doing great.
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He's showing what Martine can potentially do.
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You know, Martine, obviously that's another so we'll get
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into, but he was also kind of feeling good.
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Had a big smile on his face when he came back.
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So, you know, I think Honda's probably the weaker of the one
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manufacturers, but they're also mixing it up in all the other
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races. So there's not really one weak
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competitor as far as a manufacturer goes.
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So it's going to be very interesting to see how the rest
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of the season plays out after this break.
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All right, All right, Louis, you heard all those guys.
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What are your thoughts man? I think this and the next track
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are a little bit of an anomaly for KTM.
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This track and the next track, which is the Red Bull Ring,
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leans really, really heavily on the strengths of the KTM.
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So I expect to see them doing the similar pace at the next
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round and even maybe the round after that at Hungary.
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But then after that, when we get back to Catalonia and San Marino
20:47
and so forth, the KTM is probably going to start to
20:50
struggle again because they can't lean on the horsepower as
20:53
much as they have. I mean, the KCM is the fastest
20:56
bike in a straight line. And if you look at this track,
20:58
this track had a lot of straight lines, so you're going to get a
21:02
lot of competitive advantage. I think once the lines get a
21:04
little shorter and the turns get a little bit more significant,
21:08
that's where you see the KTM struggle outside of Vinales.
21:11
And Vinales, to be honest with you, I think was the leading
21:15
reason why they were doing so good, because they were seeing
21:17
what he was doing. And then now he's hurt, right?
21:20
And you know, even Pedro Acosta himself admits like he's a hot
21:25
head and the people at KTM are hot heads.
21:27
So it's hard for them sometime to get on the same page because
21:30
he doesn't know how to explain himself without probably getting
21:34
super animated, whereas Vinales can also get animated, but he
21:38
can also really tell you what needs to get done.
21:40
He's been, he's a little bit more mature, a little bit, you
21:43
know, a student that the game a little longer.
21:45
Right. How crazy is how crazy is that?
21:47
Is it that Jack Miller helped him last year at the beginning
21:53
of the season anyway? And I've been Yalis and you got
21:56
guys that been coming up to KTM the whole their whole life and
22:01
and they weren't able to make the leaps and bounds that these
22:04
two guys are making. I mean, this is again, how do
22:07
you explain how good are you? Are you at explaining what's
22:11
wrong with the bike? If you go back to the pit and
22:14
just give the bike to the techs and just say, well, this doesn't
22:16
seem to be working. You know, you need to be able to
22:19
really tell this to the text exactly what's happening.
22:23
Because one, they're going to look at your data and they're
22:24
going to tell you you're full of shit or not.
22:26
If you're like, dude, I'm breaking as late as I can.
22:28
They're going to look at the data.
22:29
Be like no, you're not you know they look at the data and say
22:32
hey, this other guy on the same bike is breaking at this point
22:36
and in this sector he's .32 seconds faster than you.
22:39
You need to do what he's doing in this sector.
22:41
And this other guy in this sector is doing one point
22:44
something seconds faster. You need to do what he's doing
22:46
in that sector. And this is what you know, being
22:49
part of a team really is. And when you're in a motorsport
22:51
like this and you have KTM, you have 4 riders, you're sharing
22:54
the data because you want each rider to benefit from what the
22:57
others are learning. And again, now with Enyala's
23:01
out, I don't know how much of that good data is going away
23:04
because obviously Bender's not giving good information.
23:08
And Bastianini, you know, he benefited from Hella, you know,
23:12
fight of diarrhea. So, you know, he wanted to just
23:15
finish as fast as he could because he had to go to the
23:17
bathroom before he sticks pants again.
23:21
So that put a little bit of extra emphasis on him trying to
23:23
finish as quickly as possible because he didn't want to brown
23:27
up his suit. But I think Acosta now maybe
23:31
with a good base can now take a couple steps forward.
23:34
And like I said, the next two tracks do benefit the KTM.
23:38
Outside of that, you know, Yamaha kind of did what they
23:40
did. They were a little bit middling.
23:42
The big surprise to me is Aprilia.
23:44
Aprilia now has between Fernandez, who is fighting for
23:49
his job and I think he's doing a great job now.
23:51
Like if he can keep this out through the the end of the
23:53
season, I don't see why Track House wouldn't want to sign it
23:56
for another two years. Yeah, I think he signed it till
23:59
the end of 26. I mean, I would, I would try to
24:02
try to lock him in as early next year as possible.
24:06
He's going to ride like this, you know, because the last thing
24:08
you want to do is lose a guy that's on the on the rise to a
24:12
factory team or something else. All right well, I want to talk
24:15
about it for you next, but I'll I'll go to TJ and and cheetah
24:18
today. Have anything on anything they
24:20
want to add on on the KTM's sad to see Bash any crash out in the
24:25
main race because he it could have been it might have been a
24:28
KTM 1-2 again too. Or, you know, actually, I don't
24:31
know if Zack he was going to give that up.
24:33
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'll say not as much as
24:36
to KTM, but just what Lewis is talking about.
24:38
Like the best developmental guys are sometimes not the best
24:41
riders in the same sense. I use the same analogy as like
24:44
if you look at boxing, basketball, we both talked about
24:47
these a lot sports a lot. The best coaches aren't the best
24:50
players. They're the players that have
24:52
been sort of average in the in the league or in the in the
24:55
game, but they found a way to still make it almost great,
24:59
right? And those are the guys that find
25:00
the way. And so maybe these test riders
25:03
also the same. They can't speak it, but they
25:05
can just feel it. Some those guys don't end up
25:08
becoming the best test riders, you know, and it's the guys that
25:11
have both. Sometimes that's the rarity like
25:13
like Evan Alice, right, that can develop it and talk it so and do
25:17
the fast laps. Right, I agree.
25:21
More, more, more like an Elish, But I'll say I was going to say
25:25
on the KTM part, it was good to see Paulus Prager out there.
25:29
Yes, I'll say that. Yeah, and he, I think he
25:33
finished ninth in the in the Sprint.
25:35
So not, as you know, not as great as Danny Pedroza, but
25:40
nonetheless. I mean, I don't think he, I
25:41
don't think Paul did any races last year.
25:45
No, he didn't do any races. He just did testing.
25:48
And you know, in the race, think about it, he finished one second
25:52
behind Brad Bender. Bender's been on that bike for
25:55
like 72 years now. Like bro, the guy that was last
25:58
week was had a microphone at the last race just came in a second
26:02
behind you in the actual race. Bender won at Bruno last time,
26:07
yeah. Yes.
26:09
And, and now he finished, you know, in the top 10, but
26:11
literally the guy that didn't have a job last week finished
26:15
one second behind you. Like that's not a good look.
26:19
You know, yeah, I think Bender might be struggling a little bit
26:22
or maybe he's just been on that bike too long and it's and it's
26:24
time for a change sometimes that that happens.
26:27
Complacency. Yeah, yeah.
26:29
But let's talk about Aprilia. As you have mentioned in Lewis,
26:32
it looks like Fernandez is is finding his way.
26:35
You know, I don't know if it's the if the help outside of the
26:39
track or seeing your rookie do better than you in the first
26:43
fight until he crashed out in Silverstone, you know, or
26:47
whatever it is. You know, he's figuring it out.
26:51
You know, Bazecki's looking really good on on the bike.
26:56
And you know, or hey, Martine had to come in and he had to do
26:59
that walk of shame. And you know, let's talk about
27:01
the walk of shame part first, which is that interview where he
27:03
had to be up there by himself and ask all those questions, you
27:07
know, just to sit here and be asked how many different way he
27:10
screwed up. I mean, and that that was tough
27:15
for me. And he knew that.
27:17
He knew that had that had to come, that had to be done.
27:19
It was the best way to do it. But yeah, it sucks to be up
27:23
there alone where everyone just picking at you on the situation.
27:26
It wasn't like, oh, how was your race or how was your time off?
27:29
How did you recover? It was just like, why did you
27:32
make this decision? Why did you hold back and and,
27:36
you know, just more antagonizing the situation just to get
27:39
everything out right at that that moment.
27:43
There's some certain things that I didn't agree with Martine said
27:46
that was kind of like him being an asshole about it.
27:48
But, you know, it is his life and what he wants to pursue.
27:52
But he was close to losing everything at one point.
27:55
So. But yeah, that was a tough
27:59
interview. I would say to go through, to
28:00
come back and to have to do that and then focus on racing.
28:04
So I don't know. They could have done it another
28:07
time, but. Yeah, I know.
28:09
I, I, I agree. I, I, you know, I've, you know,
28:13
if I think if he would have chilled out like, you know,
28:17
months ago, they probably would let all that slide.
28:20
But you know, he, he, he, he embarrassed the sport and, and
28:26
so they can't just be like come back home, you know, I'm saying
28:29
they, he, they have, he has to, he had to go out there and do
28:32
that. What are your thoughts, Cheetah?
28:34
I'm mad I didn't see this. How do you?
28:37
Always online. I was like watch wanting all
28:42
this and now it's there. OK, I got to go watch it.
28:44
It's on Moto GP. Yeah, it's on Moto GP, but for
28:47
sure check it out. We'll go ahead add something,
28:50
Lewis, since Cheetah didn't get a chance to check it out.
28:52
I'm going to say two things here.
28:54
One, who had the worst weekend? Was it Martine during that
28:58
interview or the HR guy and the CEO at, at, at the Coldplay
29:06
concert? Because they both had really,
29:08
really bad moments in front of the camera.
29:11
Like they both had like, oh shit moments in front of the camera.
29:15
Like they had to come with receipts and and they were
29:18
getting charged full price. But.
29:22
Martine, you know. Martine, you know, I don't know
29:25
if a prelien pushed it or Moto GP pushed it, but but somebody
29:29
had to do that. Like Martine had to eat a lot of
29:31
crow because if he didn't, this was just going to chase him from
29:34
this round to the next round to the next round.
29:36
Like, you know, at some point you just got to come out, Meet
29:39
the Press, get it over with and move on.
29:41
You know, release the Epstein list.
29:43
Don't stop worrying about it. Once it's in the air, it's out
29:45
there, you know, nobody can question it anymore.
29:48
And also they got to make sure that no other rider gets this
29:52
idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:53
And that's the other thing. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised
29:55
if this was a Dorner. Anything with Aprilia or even a
29:58
door, anything where it's like, look, you need to go out here,
30:00
address the press, get this out, clear the air, and then we can
30:03
move on. Plus, this is a little bit of a,
30:06
you know, I did this once and got away with it.
30:09
I thought I could do it again, but guess what?
30:11
I can't because that the name on the side of the building isn't
30:14
Martinez Dorna. So you just work here, my man,
30:18
Like the same your company, you can do whatever you want.
30:22
Once that was done and it was time to go racing, I'll give you
30:25
the second best thing that I was tell people.
30:27
Winning cures everything. If you're doing good, no matter
30:31
how bad everything else is going on, winning cures everything.
30:35
The team will forget all about the discrepancies.
30:39
The mechanics will work hard for you, you know, everything will
30:42
come together if you're winning. And he came in 7th place after
30:46
being off the bike, you know, almost half the year.
30:49
I mean, we're at the summer break.
30:50
He's only ridden in two rounds, 3 rounds, 2 rounds.
30:54
Yeah, and he didn't even finish the one round.
30:57
So for him to be here coming in 7th place again, fast never
31:02
forgets how to be fast. You lose timing, you lose this,
31:05
you lose that. But as you get laps, you get
31:07
your timing back, you get your rhythm back.
31:09
You understand where the apex is, where the trail, where they
31:12
let off the brake, where they get back on the gap.
31:13
Like fast guys, don't forget how to be fast.
31:16
They just lose their timing. So he got back on it and the
31:19
more he rides, the better he's going to get his timing and he's
31:21
already got a benchmark. Bazeki is setting the benchmark.
31:24
My man technically could have 5 podiums in a row had it not been
31:27
for a couple of incidences. That's huge.
31:30
You know, Aprelia has not been in that position to have 5
31:33
possible podiums in a row ever. Even with Alicia Sparrow, they
31:38
never had this consistency and if he can continue, if Best can
31:43
continue this into the next two rounds, which again are are
31:45
really good rounds for the Aprilia bike and beyond, like
31:48
this again sets a new bar for Martine to achieve.
31:53
So it's good man. Again, it's over with, it's done
31:55
with. Ride the bike, let you ride and
31:57
speak for yourself. Shut up, don't talk anymore.
32:01
The less you talk, the better it'll be for you, Martine.
32:04
That's what I'll tell him. You know, and I'll I'll say, I
32:06
mean Bez is the only guy that's really pressured Mark beside I
32:10
wouldn't even say Alex pressured Mark, but Bez is the only guy.
32:15
Yep, yeah, he's the only one that dice it up with him.
32:17
Like outside of one or two passes by Peko Bagnaya in random
32:23
places, like, you know, he hasn't had that person on his
32:27
ass where like, oh man, you know, I could let off from this
32:30
nine and a half second lead and I'll still win by 4 1/2 seconds.
32:34
Like, Oh no, I got to keep pushing because if I slow down a
32:37
little too much, this guy's going to catch up.
32:39
And again, man, I'll always say Mark is the most intelligent
32:42
rider in the entire field, man, the things that he's constantly
32:45
thinking and calculating and understanding.
32:48
Like in the interview he even said, look, I got behind Bez and
32:51
as soon as I felt the tire dropped, that's when I knew I
32:54
had to make a move. And it's like, really like when
32:59
your tire went to shit, that's when you decided you're going to
33:02
go fast. And that's where he kills it,
33:04
man. When when the tire drops,
33:06
everybody says, you know, the dude's just on another level.
33:10
Yeah, yeah. I'll add to that just a little
33:13
on the Bez, Bez part. I'm just glad for Aprilia that
33:16
Bez is doing well for them because if he wasn't, then
33:20
Aprilia, I mean, Martine is going to come back and look like
33:23
a king. And they don't like this guy.
33:25
And not just for that reason alone, but now that Aprilia gets
33:28
a say so at being one of the top competitors right now.
33:32
It's just I'm glad they're not left alone in in the mix right
33:36
now without their top rider. And now Bez is now the top rider
33:39
in because Martinez not showing his number one plate.
33:42
He's not putting it to good use yet.
33:44
So I mean once they both start mixing it up man, Aprilia can be
33:48
a real force to be reckoned with in my opinion.
33:51
Yeah, for sure, for sure. I completely agree.
33:54
I think so. I think that Martine seeing what
33:58
Bez is, I think seeing what I agree because like he you guy
34:01
agree was nice in the beginning. See what he was doing.
34:04
See what Bez is doing now and again, Raul Fernandez, what he's
34:08
doing, it's good motivation for him.
34:11
I I mean, I you know, I I can't stop thinking like he he could
34:14
have avoided all this, but if he just kept his mouth shut and
34:17
because he could have enacted that clause at any point in time
34:20
in the whole season. So you think he would have
34:22
waited to have more information. But nonetheless, I think that if
34:26
you know the way they're looking after this past weekend, like I
34:30
think you know, again a couple of rounds from now, I think
34:32
they'll they'll they'll be in the mix for the top five and
34:35
anyone else a pro years. I won't say I grew up because
34:38
he's not, he's not there yet, but I think that definitely
34:41
Martine and Bez and even Raul Fernandez because he's he's been
34:45
finishing top seven, you know, lately.
34:49
Absolutely, yeah. You know, let's talk about
34:53
Grassini and VR46. The only two top Ducatis this
34:57
round was the factory. Everybody else were either
35:01
injured or just down in the down, you know, 10th or below or
35:05
something like that. They can't be happy with the
35:08
with this right at Ducati. Ducati can't be happy that hey,
35:11
listen, we're used to having six bikes in the top ten.
35:13
What's going on? I.
35:17
Mean you can change once in a while, you know it's it's
35:19
racing. They can't be greedy.
35:23
But no, it sucks to see like Alex Marquez go down and you
35:30
know some decisions that he makes sometimes.
35:33
I don't know if he's going back to the original Alex now,
35:36
because this past few weekends haven't been that great.
35:39
I don't know if this is like the Alex that we know, but hopefully
35:44
he gets back on his high to continue with the championship
35:48
push. We know that he's not going to
35:49
get it, but VR46, I think they were looking good.
35:53
But you know this, there's some struggles.
35:56
I didn't really see much other struggles with the VR46.
36:02
Got you. Frankie's injured, so he's out,
36:05
but Digio was, he crashed out of the main race, but I think he
36:08
qualified 18th or something like that.
36:10
So not really not really a good look.
36:14
Cheetah. Do you think that, you know, as
36:17
as a satellite team, they're doing too much because, you
36:20
know, last year Primark wanted they feel like, you know, they
36:23
they they can do it. Granted that VR46 that they got
36:26
an injured rider but still Diggio should have done better
36:29
than than where he he he finished or didn't finish.
36:33
Yeah, I mean Diggio definitely, but I mean, just going back to
36:36
Alex for a second, I wanted to mention him because I feel like
36:38
he's gotten a taste of the podium juice and now that he's
36:41
not able to see Marquez insight, he's getting a little antsy and
36:44
making kind of decisions he could he can't he shouldn't be
36:47
making right. The decision to go under mirror
36:50
that took him and mirror out, you know, that's a that's a
36:53
decision he didn't need to make. I think the pace just wasn't
36:56
there for him. And I'll be Garrett this
36:57
weekend. So I don't know, man, I'm not
37:01
feeling the maturity out of Alex yet.
37:04
You know, that's that's yet to come.
37:06
So. Yeah, Yeah, I agree.
37:08
I agree. And I think we talked about it
37:10
last week. He rides different with his
37:12
brother, then he rides with everybody else.
37:14
He took Petco out last year. And and, you know, Petco had to
37:18
be gracious and, and and and take back the words he said
37:22
where I don't think, you know, Marc Marquez has taken back a
37:25
word yet, you know, and I think that, you know, Alex, I'm the
37:32
youngest, so I don't I've never, I could have always called on my
37:37
oldest siblings, I suppose. But I live not to do that and do
37:41
anything like that. But I think Alex sometimes is
37:46
moving with his brothers clout. Yeah.
37:50
Yeah, he wants to be up there. He just wants to.
37:52
I mean, he's already got the taste of it, right?
37:54
I mean, first few months, first few races, I mean, he was the
37:57
man. We were like all besides, Mark
37:59
wasn't here. He was winning.
38:00
That's what I said. And then so, but like now he's
38:03
not there in this one race and he starts getting a little
38:05
antsy. I don't know, maybe it just
38:07
wasn't a thing for the whole team.
38:09
Al Daguerre wasn't looking too fancy either.
38:11
And he's usually up there in the podiums, at least in sprints.
38:13
So I don't know, it was just an interesting thing.
38:16
So hopefully you can keep that hand healthy for the next few
38:18
races. Alex, that is.
38:20
What are your thoughts, Lewis? I mean, it could also have been
38:24
the grip and, and the 24 bikes because last year Bazecki and
38:28
them couldn't figure out was it no, it was a 23 bike last year.
38:31
They they could have ran into the same similar problems that
38:34
the the factories run into. Because when Marquez was in the
38:37
press conference, he, he, he said all the Ducatis were having
38:40
issues. Not so you know, it could have
38:43
been something there. But what are your thoughts,
38:44
Lewis on I think mix Cressini? I think the the Frankie injury
38:51
might be a little bit telling because if you look at
38:54
throughout the last few rounds, Frankie always does well in the
38:59
practices and Digi is always in the lower half of the practices.
39:03
And then when it comes race time, Digi kind of does a little
39:06
bit better. And, you know, maybe he's using
39:08
Frankie's data, and this weekend he didn't have Frankie's data
39:12
because if you think about it, he had Frankie's data last
39:14
weekend. And Frankie did well.
39:16
He did well. And now this weekend, Frankie's
39:19
not there. And all of a sudden he's
39:20
struggling mightily because he doesn't have that second guy
39:23
collecting data for him. So I'm wondering if that might
39:26
be one part of it on the VR46 side.
39:28
But I'm hoping that, you know, by the next round, after this
39:31
short break, Frankie will be back and, you know, we'll be at
39:34
a new another track that benefits the Ducatis and we'll
39:37
see how they do. And on the side of Alex Marquez
39:40
and the Gracini team, you know, again, Alex made a bad decision.
39:46
But also, you know, he's still riding with an injured hand.
39:49
So we don't know how that's affecting him.
39:51
Maybe he's trying to compensate a little too much.
39:53
Maybe he's doing a little too much considering that he does
39:56
have an injured hand. And that does affect how you're
39:58
able to ride because you can only do so much with the
40:01
handlebar when one of your hands, you don't have that firm
40:04
grip or you might be getting a little numb.
40:06
You don't know what's happening. I mean there, but he definitely
40:08
did make a bad decision. And I feel really bad for the
40:12
new Oliveira, which is Johan Mir, because once again, fucking
40:16
somebody takes him out. Bro, this dude needs to get
40:20
whatever blessing that Oliveira had get done in his garage now,
40:24
because now he's the new Oliveira.
40:26
He's getting taken out round after round of no fault of his
40:29
own, not doing anything outside of the norm, just in the wrong
40:32
place at the wrong time. And somebody miscalculates and
40:35
uses him as a berm. And that sucks for him because,
40:39
you know, it's not like he was riding badly, like he was doing
40:42
fairly well, all things considered, compared to the
40:45
other Hondas. And once again, man, he finds
40:48
himself in the Kitty litter. And I think you saw that in the
40:50
frustrations because you saw that he really went after Alex
40:54
and kind of really gave him a tongue lashing because he was
40:57
just like, yo, man, you know, dude, we're we're way back here
41:00
and you're taking me out from behind.
41:02
You're not even taking me out from the inside where I could
41:04
see a tire hit me. You're literally taking me out
41:06
from behind. Like there was no way you're
41:08
going to make that pass. Anybody that knows anything
41:10
about apexes and getting out of corners.
41:13
What what the hell were you doing, bro?
41:15
Like you're not, there's nothing to there's nothing to see here.
41:18
It's like you're doing it wrong. This is not how you race.
41:21
And it's true. You see that sometimes.
41:23
Sometimes, you know, there are incidents like Alex Marquez and
41:26
Pekko at Aragon. And I consider that a 5050
41:30
because Alex thought he had the line and Pekko kind of came in
41:35
and they kind of just met at the apex.
41:37
And two bikes can't take the same place at the same time.
41:40
Something has to give. And in that case, both of them
41:42
gave, you know, and again, that's might be a little bit
41:45
Alex being overly aggressive and Pekko thinking, oh, he's going
41:49
to let me go because I'm Pekko and leaning.
41:52
Kind of in front of him. He was in front of him.
41:55
Why would he hit him? Why would he hit him in the leg
41:57
if he was in front of him? He passed him and then.
42:00
But if you come. In when you come.
42:02
In the tires there and I hit your leg.
42:10
When somebody passes you, sometimes you come off the break
42:13
a little bit later to catch back up.
42:14
That's what I'm just saying sometimes.
42:17
I'm just saying that sometimes Petco thinks that Petco's
42:20
supposed to get a pass because he's Petco, and it doesn't
42:24
always happen. I'm not here to let Petco be
42:26
Petco. I'm here to try to win my race,
42:27
to try to get as good as as I can.
42:30
And if you happen to lean in and I happen to be there and my tie
42:34
hits you in the leg, you might be in front of me, but it's only
42:37
because you coming into my line. Come on, last year, he said all
42:40
the year before he said he said he didn't want team order.
42:43
You know, he wants riders to ride.
42:45
So I don't you know, he did it. Of course he.
42:48
He's the same guy that said I want satellite bikes to go
42:50
slower. Ducati shouldn't give Ducati
42:53
shouldn't give all the bikes this, all the teams the same
42:56
bike. Because satellite bikes should
42:58
be slower. So they got Marc Marquez.
43:01
No, but then that's he was saying that because Martine was
43:04
on his ass the entire time and he was like, why does a
43:07
satellite team have a bike that's as good as mine?
43:10
Like he's a satellite team. He should have the shitty parts
43:12
so that way it's easier for me to win.
43:15
But you guys giving Martine a bike just as good as my bike and
43:17
he's on a satellite. Look now I got to work like come
43:21
on man, you can't get this dudes that they call him Peko Princess
43:24
for a reason bro, he sounds. Like.
43:27
Yeah bro, he wants the easiest path of victory and that's why
43:30
he's getting his ass handed to him this year.
43:33
I I didn't see any of that. What?
43:34
Okay. Google Pekko wants slower
43:40
satellite bikes and you'll find it.
43:42
You know, it could have been, it could have been pinned by Scott
43:45
Reddick. It was any interviews.
43:53
Say again. I remember that too.
43:56
I. Don't think that is that is
43:57
unfortunate if he's saying it. I mean, it is, you know, a, a,
44:01
the, the racing industry is a little bit different and you
44:04
know, we see it in, in Formula One and stuff like that.
44:07
And, and you know, the number one guy's always gotten favors
44:11
right? Or the number one ride has
44:12
always gotten favors on teams. And, and Ducati did anything out
44:16
of the norm by putting 8 bikes on the grid by sharing data the
44:19
way they're sharing it and stuff like that.
44:21
So which he, he profited from. So which is the part that I I
44:25
wouldn't understand why he would say that 'cause he did profit
44:27
from having all that information.
44:30
It would be fine if if Jorge was saying it back last year when he
44:33
was on the Knot factory team. But there's the link to the
44:38
interview where Peko Bagnaya argues that slower satellite
44:42
bikes will make for safer riding.
44:45
Bitch ass shit. Yeah, pretty much.
44:49
Safer riding because nobody can catch me.
44:51
Come on man. Yeah, yeah.
44:54
Safer riding, huh? Once.
44:55
You see a bigger factory. Was he?
44:57
Was he was he specifically talking about Martine or?
45:02
Well, what other? What other satellite bike was
45:04
close to him? The Honda?
45:05
The astral house that. They had no that.
45:08
Wouldn't matter because it's not a Ducati, right?
45:10
Yeah, no, they. I thought they had 224 bikes
45:12
last year they had like 424 bikes.
45:14
No, they had like 18 Ducatis at one point.
45:16
Right, right, right. But like last year there was 424
45:19
and 420 threes. Like VR46 had one and Grassini
45:23
had one, right? Yep.
45:24
Yeah, Martine had the newer bike.
45:26
Oh, Martine and and VR46. VR46 had one rider on a newer
45:30
bike. So he he could have been talking
45:32
about did you? No, I doubt it.
45:37
Rexy man you going forever buying this stock man.
45:40
I'm not buying this stock, I'm just passing making sure the
45:43
wealth is. Is he can buy the stock?
45:45
I'm just trying to bring the value down to a realistic point
45:48
like if. Somebody said that, you know
45:50
what I'm saying? Like I guess he's talking about
45:51
Vinales as well in that. But if somebody said that, I get
45:54
it from the other side. If he wasn't on the factory
45:56
team, he's like all the factory riders should not have that much
45:59
of an advantage over us. I get that a little bit.
46:02
Even that's a little whiny, but to say that?
46:06
Point to the factory saying like.
46:08
Here's the direct quote. A rider behind you that doesn't
46:11
have the potential is looking to pass 6 riders in one lap and it
46:15
doesn't work like this because we are on the limit and is
46:19
they're looking for maximum goal.
46:21
If you look, the incidents are fairly the first part.
46:24
So you can read this, but he literally there is no there's
46:26
he's literally saying there's no longer a six or seven second
46:29
gap, 10th gap between satellite bikes and factory bikes.
46:34
And then if that was there, it would it would make it easier.
46:37
Was that when a couple of riders is, you know, using their bikes
46:40
as bowling balls? Moto GP every weekend if
46:44
somebody's using their bike as a bowling ball.
46:46
That's going to happen and that's up the race direction to
46:49
give the points, right I. Don't know if it was Frankie or
46:51
whoever yeah I think that was after like, you know, somebody
46:55
was trying to pass like 6 bikes yeah so a.
46:59
Few years back there was a gap in time, you know, then a lot of
47:03
aerodynamics came into play and and now it's more a fair game.
47:08
So for everybody. So most bikes have it's the same
47:12
thing. There was a time where just
47:13
Ducati had the rear right, the vice Suzuki did it halfway
47:17
through the season, Suzuki got it and then they were
47:19
developing. So like they all get in faster
47:22
with all their dynamics. So everyone has similar time
47:25
now. So that go, yeah, just complain
47:28
too much. I can see if he was on a
47:30
satellite, but you're on the factory, you're still on the
47:33
best bike at. At the end of the day, you
47:35
figure out the way to win because you're, you're supposed
47:38
to be the one that helped develop it the most and, and,
47:42
and, and continue this brand going forward for the next few
47:46
years, you know? Well, you know, again, you know,
47:48
I I I hear that, but you know, Marquez, you know, help
47:53
undeveloped that Honda, but I. Just want to point out two
47:56
little quotes from this article, by the way, he says.
47:59
He says. Meanwhile, the others were
48:01
further behind because they didn't have the potential, but
48:03
they also didn't have the same technical level.
48:06
So what he's saying is that he's just better.
48:08
No technical level of the bike. Potential as well, but then he
48:13
well why would he say the bike should be slower then?
48:18
Well, I can't be technically. I can't believe he's saying to
48:20
other writers not as skilled. Yeah, that's.
48:22
What I'm saying he's literally saying they don't have.
48:24
The talent and then the next thing is the next thing is
48:26
referring to the level of competition is extremes.
48:29
I come with receipts every week Rexy.
48:33
And this was an interview. This was an interview you've
48:35
got. To read this.
48:36
Come on man, I come with receipts.
48:38
I'm going. To have to read.
48:40
My mind is like a steel trap. Bring.
48:41
This up because that that that's why I kind of yeah, I thought
48:44
about. It I'll, I'll read it and get
48:46
back. But even still, I mean.
48:49
You say something in a press conference, I'm gonna bring that
48:51
shit up in like 5 years. Remember back when you said in a
48:53
press conference? Yeah, hopefully I'm being
48:57
consistent, right, so. You are you are very consistent.
49:02
So there you go. And I'll say this before we move
49:04
on. He also gets more Flack and
49:07
other writers do do yap off too, but he's getting a lot of Flack.
49:11
He's the only person to take down to try to take down Marquez
49:14
and a lot of other writers, kind of.
49:18
And though that last press conference he did he, he sounds
49:21
like a guy that's finally realized like he doesn't have it
49:25
because he pretty much said that right now his target is to try
49:28
to keep with Alex and see if they can secure 2nd place.
49:31
Because right now he's he's 6 races behind Mark.
49:34
It would take 6 DNFS and hims winning six in a row to even
49:38
come close to getting back on par with Mark.
49:41
And, you know, with the with the amount of rounds left, I don't
49:44
see Mark pitching it down the road in six consecutive races,
49:48
not talking sprints, but in like full races where the points are
49:51
the biggest, you know, I don't see that happening.
49:54
I mean, you know, at this pace, Mark can win with five rounds
49:58
left almost. Something which is.
50:01
Which is crazy. Yeah, I got a question for you
50:03
guys. I was, I was going to say is,
50:08
yeah, PECO has a long way to go to, to even catch up to Mark for
50:12
sure. But do you think like anyone's
50:16
even going to be close to catching Mark for the next
50:18
couple years? No, I think, I think I think
50:22
he's possibly going to repeat next year.
50:26
He's right. And his potential, how he's
50:28
showing off, how he's. No, man, I'm so glad you asked.
50:32
Just about an hour before this podcast, I was thinking about
50:36
this man's at his peak. He's not even at his peak at his
50:39
prime. He's at his prime right now and
50:41
he's like perfect balance of mental machinery and fitness.
50:46
He just got this perfect aura about him that he's been perfect
50:49
last five races, sprints and races first.
50:52
It's perfect. I will say this, there's maybe a
50:56
couple of people. I think Martine because we don't
51:00
know what we're going to get yet.
51:01
So he, he, he could right. If he's already feeling good at
51:05
on the on the bike. Besseki, I think it's another
51:09
person. And I think Frankie, outside of
51:12
those three people like because they, they, you know, I, you
51:17
know, I think they have what it takes, but I, I can't see the
51:21
rest of the guys and you know, there's nothing is impossible.
51:26
But no, I think it'd be, it's going to be hard next year for
51:29
them to beat them, but I don't think they're doing much
51:31
development on the bike. So you never know.
51:35
Barring injury and barring something really, really crazy
51:38
happened in 2027 where they put the tires on backwards on all
51:42
the bikes. Like I know that 27 is going to
51:44
be a new bike, new tire and everything else but barring
51:48
injury, I mean Mark has already had two pretty good runs.
51:52
He had two back-to-back. He had a back-to-back wins in
51:55
2324 like his first and second season.
51:58
Then he had the the Rossi special season where he lost to
52:02
Lorenzo. And then after that he railed
52:06
off 4 championships in a row and he was on his way to 1/5
52:08
championship before he got injured because that that year
52:12
he was doing the same thing he's doing this year.
52:13
He was playing track day coach, he was going out there and just
52:17
managing the time, doing whatever he wanted, put in the
52:19
bike where he wanted and nobody had any answers to to to give it
52:23
what he was doing. And he would have won that
52:25
championship and he probably would have won the next
52:27
championship. I mean, we technically could
52:29
looking at looking at a guy that won five or six in a row.
52:32
Now he has an opportunity on a bike that is competitive and his
52:36
his talent level. Just like Cheetah said, it's
52:39
just how it's ever been. I mean, the dude came into this
52:41
year in unbelievable shape. His ABS got little ABS.
52:45
Each of his ABS got like 6 little ABS, man, that's crazy.
52:49
He got like an 82 pack and everybody in the paddocks, you
52:54
know, people have been quoted as saying like that first trip to
52:57
that first round of testing when they were flying out to that
53:00
first round, people were saying that Alex got on the that mark
53:04
got on the plane already with a look like we're in trouble and
53:11
we're in trouble. Look at us.
53:12
We're getting our asses handed to us.
53:13
Like we're professional riders. We're the top of our peak.
53:16
Imagine a Formula One rider that wins every race by like 8
53:19
seconds that nobody can even touch.
53:22
Like that's what we're looking at here.
53:23
We're looking at, you know, somebody that's at the peak of
53:25
their fitness, peak of their mental strength.
53:27
I mean, mentally you have to be super strong for any kind of
53:31
Motorsports cuz that's where you win it or lose it.
53:33
Can you bring yourself into every weekend and, and push
53:37
yourself to be the best and not make mistakes.
53:40
And when you make mistakes, forget them and go back out
53:43
there and ride. And that's what he's doing, man.
53:44
He crashes and he comes back out like he never crashed.
53:47
He does this, he learns from it. He doesn't do it again.
53:50
He crashes. He's doing what he used to do,
53:51
crashing in practice, but avoiding the crashes in the
53:54
race, pushing as much as he can when it doesn't count, so that
53:57
when it does count, he kind of already knows the limits.
54:01
I mean, going at this rate, you know, if the bike, if everything
54:04
stays the same, I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be
54:07
hard to take him down. Like right now, his only
54:09
competition is gravity. Yeah, before we get out of here,
54:16
let's talk about what Joe Roberts did, because pretty
54:20
impressive for a guy who struggled at the beginning of
54:23
the year through injuries and you know that, you know, he
54:29
seems, I don't I don't remember how did he win a race last year?
54:31
I. Think he won a?
54:34
Few or or he was on a podium and I think maybe he was on Mojelo
54:39
on the podium or something like that.
54:41
You know what you guys thoughts of that?
54:42
It's pretty good to see. You know, the team winning is
54:45
good for him because you know him and like Jake Dixon, these
54:48
guys have been in the in in Moto 2 now for a minute and you got
54:52
all these young writers that that that you know, getting
54:56
talked about, you know, week in and week out and stuff like
54:59
that. What you guys think of that,
55:00
what Joe Roberts did this past weekend?
55:04
I think it was. I mean, I didn't know all the
55:07
history about him in this track. I think it's like his his debut
55:15
at this track a few years back or he has a lot of history with
55:18
this track. So to come back and and, you
55:21
know, responsible until summer break.
55:24
He even said it himself that, you know, it gives you
55:26
confidence. You want to go out there and do
55:28
the best you can. And he said, I'm winning this
55:31
race. So it was really good to
55:33
actually finally hear someone American speak on the podium
55:38
with with the one or two series. So I'm really, I'm really happy,
55:43
you know, hand the national anthem and everything.
55:45
So I'm really happy to finally see him back up there.
55:49
Last year he had a really good run, kind of faded toward the
55:51
end. But it was really good to see
55:54
Joe back up there. Didn't really expect it.
55:56
Like I said, I didn't know the history that he had with his
55:59
track. You know, a lot of people have
56:01
some history with his track and they do pretty well so.
56:06
Yeah, yeah, the fact the fact that he won their last time just
56:10
shows he's got he's got some favorites.
56:13
It's good to see. Obviously an American, you know,
56:15
be up there in in the European pretty much the European league
56:18
is what it should be called because they're just dominating
56:22
in every aspect, 2 wheels. So even even Tour de France
56:26
stuff, right? So, but, but it's just it's good
56:28
to see that man. I mean, we need we need more
56:30
American guys up there coming back from his injury just to see
56:33
a comeback and, and, and have that happened.
56:36
I mean, that's, that's what we all love athletes for is just
56:40
those those stories where they go through adversity and still
56:43
able to make it to the top, especially in this case a
56:45
podium. So this is always good to see
56:48
that. I just took a quick look and it
56:52
looks like it's his third top, the third time he's been on the
56:56
top step since he got to Moto 2. So he hasn't had a lot of
57:01
visits. So whenever you can get a visit,
57:02
that's great. And coming off of like, you
57:04
know, he had an injury kind of messed him up.
57:07
It's it took him out of the game for a while.
57:09
But coming back from an injury and getting on a top step,
57:12
hopefully that gives him some confidence going forward.
57:14
I know he just signed a new deal, so he's going to stay with
57:18
the team a little bit longer. So hopefully this is a sign of
57:21
good things to come. Hopefully the team can continue
57:23
to give him a competitive bike and he can kind of keep going
57:27
forward. I mean, it sucks to only have,
57:30
you know, one guy and all of GP that's an American.
57:33
So, you know, here in our our national anthem over the
57:38
speakers, I'm sure the people in Europe are like, I never heard
57:40
that before. It's like the first time I've
57:41
ever heard that. What is that?
57:43
What's that sound? That's that's pretty funny, but
57:50
it's pretty good, man. You know, I hope the kid, well,
57:54
he's still got a, you know, a good amount of career in front
57:56
of him and hopefully he can keep doing it.
57:58
As for Jake Dixon, you know, we mentioned him really briefly if
58:02
you guys haven't seen like, it looks like he's going to World
58:05
Super Bike and like I told you, he'll never see a Moto GP bike
58:10
and neither will Aaron Connett. So no, no, no.
58:17
I was just what he said today, like, like, I don't know, I
58:25
think he's he screwed himself in a way because who's that?
58:31
And and qualifying Eric and, and qualifying, you know, he
58:35
crashed. So, you know, he didn't get a
58:38
chance to, you know, get on the road that he should be on.
58:42
And him going through Turn 1 when the race starts, you know,
58:45
he tried to jump to the front. And it's just so unfortunate.
58:49
Yeah. You know, that's that's just
58:50
pretty. Pretty unfortunate.
58:51
What do you guys think of Ramirez?
58:54
Should he he he knew he had too long that penalty.
58:57
Should he even have been battling with Joe in the
58:58
beginning? I can understand another brand
59:04
but but you know. That that's a tough one, but
59:07
somebody after the race probably went up to him and were like,
59:10
yo, let me talk to you a minute. One of the only fans, team
59:14
managers probably went up to him say, let's go over here where
59:17
somebody can't hear you scream because I want to talk to you
59:19
about something and probably like give him a good but like I
59:22
would have punched him in the face.
59:23
I'll be like, yo, you're fighting for nothing and you're
59:26
literally going to take out almost your own team rider
59:28
that's doing much better when you got to make like, you know,
59:31
you're going to lose 8 1/2 nine seconds going through the long
59:34
life penalty. Like what?
59:35
What the hell you doing? You think you're going to get a
59:37
nine second lead that you've never had in your entire career?
59:40
Moto 2, like again, this is this is young people making stupid,
59:45
stupid decisions at at the moment.
59:47
Like somebody probably should have spoken to him before the
59:50
race. Because sometimes these are
59:52
things that in the moment when you have the helmet on, you
59:54
don't think about because you're so worried about corner to
59:57
corner and your apexes and your braking and your gearing and
1:00:00
everything else that you don't have that bigger.
1:00:03
Who's on the other bike? Yeah.
1:00:05
Well, you don't have that bigger field of view, you know, and not
1:00:07
everybody has that Marquez field of view where he can calculate
1:00:10
tire pressure and laps and this and that.
1:00:12
You know, this guy's just I'm trying to get to the next turn
1:00:15
stop. I'm trying to get to the next
1:00:16
turn and he done thinking, oh shit, I got to do too.
1:00:19
A long lap penalty. I'm going to lose this much
1:00:21
time. Even if I get to the front, I'm
1:00:23
still going to end up in the back.
1:00:24
Like why am I going to possibly take my own teammate out?
1:00:27
Like these are the things you really got to think about.
1:00:29
And when you make those kind of decisions on a bike and make
1:00:32
those kind of mistakes, that's the kind of thing that high
1:00:35
level managers look at and say this guy doesn't have that IT
1:00:39
factor for the mentality to to do what he needs to do.
1:00:42
Unless your last. Unless your name Jorge Lorenzo.
1:00:45
Unless you're Jorge, Lorenzo or Rossi.
1:00:50
You know, one more thing, I, you know, I think Vietay and and
1:00:55
Roberts should be on a team together.
1:00:57
I, I, I think that'll be a, that would be a, a, a good teammate
1:01:01
of Roberts, because both these guys kind of they, they do one
1:01:04
off. So certain tracks they do really
1:01:05
well for granted, they've both had a lot of injuries the last
1:01:09
couple of years, you know, collarbone issues and stuff.
1:01:12
I think the BA take it was an Argentina somewhere.
1:01:16
I figure where he broke his last year, whatever and and that
1:01:19
messed them up last year. What would you think about those
1:01:21
two guys teaming out? I'll let someone else go
1:01:27
personal. Are you just saying that because
1:01:30
they both have mullets? They're both really good riders
1:01:36
and unfortunately, you know, like, like, you know, you got,
1:01:39
we talked about the cadets and the Jake Dixons of the world,
1:01:42
like eventually these guys. How long can you hold on to a
1:01:45
seat Moto 2 when you start to push 2728?
1:01:49
You know, after 26. If you if you got good results,
1:01:52
you can stay there for a long time.
1:01:53
I mean, Tony, Tony Lee has won the first Moto 2 championship
1:01:56
when he's like 57 years old. Dude there's dudes out of 1716
1:02:00
that's trying to get into Moto 2 now all.
1:02:02
Right. But if but if I'm on a team and
1:02:05
I'm consistently in the top five, my team's not going to
1:02:07
want to let me go if my teammate is in the top, in the bottom 15.
1:02:11
Yeah, but like, but none of these guys like are consistently
1:02:15
in the top five in the last couple of years, granted.
1:02:17
So then why would I want 2 inconsistent guys in the same
1:02:19
team? Like you got to try to find that
1:02:24
11 consistent guy, and usually that's the older guy because one
1:02:29
of the things you want to do is you want to put the younger guy
1:02:31
with the older guy so that the older guy can kind of school a
1:02:34
younger guy. Because at a certain point, like
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I told you, the older guy is not going to get that step to Moto
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GP. But he has enough experience in
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Moto 2 that he could probably mentor a younger rider and give
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him that little bit of a step up.
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And maybe that younger rider will have the opportunity in GP.
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But I don't want to put 2 old guys on the same team because
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what am I doing here, man? I'm just paying old guys to go
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racing, right? I'm not going to be able to
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level anybody up. Anyone else want to add to that?
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Go. Go 2 old guys on the same team.
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Well guys, there's a break for like 3 weeks in Moto GP, but we
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still got Moto America and we still got World Super Bike BSB.
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Looks like Scott Redmond will be in BSB so we'll we'll see how he
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does there. Until next week, guys.
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Peace. Take care guys, take care.