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Today’s Popcorn Moment: Fraud in healthcare · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 2: It's a story you need to hear to believe, then
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  Speaker 2: grab your popcorn because there is more. I shared some
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  Speaker 2: of this yesterday from the press conference. This was Dr. Oz,
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  Speaker 2: Mehmet Oz, who runs Medicare Medicaid Services. He's the CMS Administrator.
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  Speaker 2: Discussing the amount of fraud, the amount of waste that's
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  Speaker 2: being found, sometimes it's not fraud, it's just incompetent government.
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  Speaker 1: And it is being found everywhere. And in the.
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  Speaker 2: Latest example, this was yesterday's example, duplicate enrollees were costing
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  Speaker 2: $ 738 million a year in improper payments. And that number,
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  Speaker 2: when they extrapolate it out, where it's as as the
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  Speaker 2: trend line goes, is over a billion a year is
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  Speaker 2: what they expect that we're they're actually going to find.
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  Speaker 2: Doge is a good thing. Ending waste, fraud and abuse
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  Speaker 2: is a good thing. Could have been implemented better.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Conceptually solid. We should keep it going. oh, it
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  Speaker 1: wasted money here, it wasted money there, and look at
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  Speaker 1: the people that are hurt. No, it didn't. They were
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  Speaker 1: never owed that money. It belongs to the taxpayer.
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  Speaker 2: And how dare you tell me the taxpayer has some
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  Speaker 2: obligation to provide to your program, progressive, leftist, whatever you were,
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  Speaker 2: screaming and yelling about this.
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  Speaker 1: They have no obligation.
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  Speaker 2: They have an obligation to their family to provide for
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  Speaker 2: them the best life possible. And the government has no
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  Speaker 2: right to say to them, no, you have to provide
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  Speaker 2: somewhere else and your family goes with less. Take care
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  Speaker 2: of your family, and then you can take care of others.
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  Speaker 2: Private charity can do the work. We don't need government-forced charity,
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  Speaker 2: thank you very much. Those people are just wrong, and
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  Speaker 2: we should say so. And we should say so aggressively.
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  Speaker 1: Dr. Oz, what have you found? Would you tell us?
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  Speaker 1: Good sir. Hold on a second. I know I can
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  Speaker 1: do this, right? I know I can make this work.
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  Speaker 1: And there it is.
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  Speaker 3: Let me explain what this is, because no one's losing insurance.
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  Speaker 1: This is about a big system.
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  Speaker 3: We've got over 160 million Americans that we insure at
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  Speaker 3: our agency, Medicare and Medicaid. And we have to take
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  Speaker 3: into account that people move between cities. the Obamacare system,
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  Speaker 3: or they get older, they move off of Obamacare into Medicare,
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  Speaker 3: or they die. So you have to periodically do data matching.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to double check, cross check. Why? Because everybody
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  Speaker 3: in this system makes money if these mistakes occur. Your
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  Speaker 3: insurance companies get paid extra, even though you're not really
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  Speaker 3: using that insurance. The agents sell you policies you don't need.
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  Speaker 3: The brokers profit by taking commissions. Even the states get
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  Speaker 3: paid extra money if someone thinks you live in their state,
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  Speaker 3: but you moved.
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  Speaker 1: Nine months ago to another state. So this has always
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  Speaker 1: been the rule.
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  Speaker 3: During the Biden administration, they abandon those reasonable safeguards instead
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  Speaker 3: they say we don't want to cause awkwardness we're not
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  Speaker 3: going to check to see if you've got two insurance
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  Speaker 3: policies even though anyone who actually has to pay for
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  Speaker 3: those policies would never let that happen.
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  Speaker 2: When you hear that two things come to mind first
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  Speaker 2: well of course you check to see if you're doubled
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  Speaker 2: up that's the most rational thing in the world If
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  Speaker 2: you saw your bank account was down, you would check
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  Speaker 2: to see, okay, what did I spend here, there, and everywhere?
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  Speaker 2: If you saw someplace paid twice, you'd be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's a mistake, and you wouldn't do that again, and
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  Speaker 2: you would fix it from there. You mean somehow it's
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  Speaker 2: wrong for government to see if we're paying people twice?
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  Speaker 2: The size of the system means that sometimes these things
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  Speaker 2: are harder to pick up, and everybody is.
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  Speaker 1: Disincentivized? No.
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  Speaker 2: Not incentivized. To find these things because they're still getting paid.
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  Speaker 2: The more problems, they don't care. As long as they
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  Speaker 2: get paid, it doesn't matter. But someone has to pay it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's us.
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  Speaker 2: That's the state working against us. And that's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: That should infuriate. So the first part of it is
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  Speaker 2: it's totally rational. The second part of it is look
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  Speaker 2: how many people, look how many groups, look how government
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  Speaker 2: is incentivized to allow the system not to work properly.
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  Speaker 1: You think government-run healthcare is a good idea? I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I said you. I didn't mean you.
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  Speaker 2: They think government-run healthcare is a good idea? The Bernie
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  Speaker 2: Sanders of the world think government-run healthcare is going to work.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to be efficient? Pookie. And can we all
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  Speaker 1: be clear?
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  Speaker 2: Obamacare is an unmitigated failure. Barack Obama was a liar
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  Speaker 2: and a fraud, and the people who voted for this
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  Speaker 2: thing wanted this thing. Screwed the country. Can we end
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  Speaker 2: this already? The only way to get a real handle
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  Speaker 2: on what's going on is to end Obamacare for good.
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  Speaker 2: Not go to universal health care, but say the market
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  Speaker 2: is the way. Better results, cheaper results, and faster results.
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  Speaker 2: End Obamacare now. Rip it out from the root. It
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  Speaker 2: has to be ripped out. The system has to go
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  Speaker 2: away so the market can actually do its job because
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  Speaker 2: this has created artificial systems. This is what's creating the bloat.
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  Speaker 2: This is where the massive costs are from. Until it
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  Speaker 2: is gone, nothing can be fixed. Now, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: Republicans have not put forth a single plan to replace Obamacare.
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  Speaker 2: I also agree with you that I don't want a
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  Speaker 2: plan to replace Obamacare, but that's not the way the
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  Speaker 2: world works.
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  Speaker 1: Americans want a plan. Republicans have got nothing.
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  Speaker 2: They have not put a single thing on the table
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  Speaker 2: because the answer is this plan sucks. And government run
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  Speaker 2: health care would be a disaster. After all, look what
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  Speaker 2: they've done with this plan. And their answer is, well,
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  Speaker 2: if we just had a little more power, if we
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  Speaker 2: just did a little bit more, if you'd stop getting
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  Speaker 2: in the way, if you cared more about children. Bernie
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  Speaker 2: Sanders is a dirty commie and anyone supporting him is wrong.
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  Speaker 2: The market is the answer. And healthcare is not free
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  Speaker 2: and it isn't a right. You want to see terrible healthcare?
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  Speaker 2: Tell people it's a right. Tell them the government owes
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  Speaker 2: it to them. You watch how quickly things devolve. You
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  Speaker 2: want innovation and you want grandma to stay alive and
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  Speaker 2: you want to.
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  Speaker 1: See five-year-olds survive cancer treatments? Go with the market. That's
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  Speaker 1: the answer. I've got all the proof in the world.
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  Speaker 2: On this one, the Trump administration found nearly 200,000 duplicate enrollments.
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  Speaker 1: That's just the beginning, and you know it.