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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, October 30 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jack Worst Football. He's got
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Speaker 1: your crush and he got it. Fruck Dipty done yards
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Speaker 1: away from the End. Jeff Warris Digital Jack Jack Warris
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Speaker 1: Digital Jack Warris, Drive Time right and Sex steps to
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Speaker 1: John Oh shows it actually Jack Warres dr Time starts
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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I don't really think I mean to me,
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Speaker 1: None of the stuff I wear is that crazy. It's
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Speaker 1: just kind of stuff. I like like this. You got
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Speaker 1: my Tarzan band and I go in a day, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, always have the jots on deck. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: going to London. I was hoping we'd get to wear
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Speaker 1: Halloween costume since we're trying to traveling on Halloween, have
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Speaker 1: awesome white Goodman from Dodgeball costume. But I'm afraid, uh,
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be able to make the trip, unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: Gardner mints you on Good Morning Football this more name
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Speaker 1: when you heard it here first, no Halloween costumes on
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Speaker 1: the plane Thursday. I'm glad someone said something because that
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Speaker 1: would have been embarrassing. Doubt that he had one, though,
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Speaker 1: for sure, and I'm totally for sure that he was
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Speaker 1: completely planning on wearing it. I'm sure he's got four
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Speaker 1: or five. And I'm sure there's some students in Washington State.
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Speaker 1: You can tell some tales, can tell some tales. Fraternity parties. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Bryan lives vicariously through the stash and his Dodgeball costumes.
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Speaker 1: I've never seen the movie Dodgeball, but when you showed
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Speaker 1: it to me today, when yeah, I'm sure, yeah, right
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Speaker 1: up there with bridge over the River Quay Oscar. When
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Speaker 1: I when I saw it, I thought, yeah, he's got that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was planning on the whole average Joe get up
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Speaker 1: on the plane wouldn't have been goods the whole movie. Right,
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Speaker 1: it's I love stupid humor. There's nothing better than that,
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Speaker 1: nothing better than that. It's good. I can tell John
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Speaker 1: you probably like Dodgeball. He strikes me the doggall type
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Speaker 1: of guy. All you're ready for big things? I was
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Speaker 1: born ready. Yeah, alright. Big thing one is Gardner Minshew
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Speaker 1: Minshew Magic. We all know it is here in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: Is it gonna be there in London? Uh? Yeah, And
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Speaker 1: it's probably gonna even be bigger in London. You can
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Speaker 1: only imagine what the Minshew magic will be like there.
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Speaker 1: It's his first international test. Thos. We'll see how he
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Speaker 1: plays with all that pressure, but he's handled pressure very
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Speaker 1: well so far, so I really don't expect anything different.
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Speaker 1: Big thing too is DeShawn Watson. The Texans first trip
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Speaker 1: to London. How does that affect the quarterback? But he
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Speaker 1: plays under the biggest lights and performs at his best.
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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a good match between the Shawn
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Speaker 1: Watch and the Shawn Watson and Gardner Minshew. Big thing
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Speaker 1: three is a J boy We were always looking forward
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Speaker 1: to Jalen Ramsey verse DeAndre Hopkins. This is boys first
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Speaker 1: true test against DeAndre Hopkins, one of the best receivers
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Speaker 1: in the league. It's his chance to prove he's worth
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Speaker 1: that big contract, and you can definitely say he is
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Speaker 1: the number one corner now. So all in all, big
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Speaker 1: game on Sunday, a lot of tests. Definitely looking at
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks for the first thing, though, it seems like
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Speaker 1: a long time ago that a J boyer arrived here
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Speaker 1: from Houston and you had he and Jalen and they
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Speaker 1: were both talking about being number one, and the conversation
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Speaker 1: the week of Houston if you recall stem to who's
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Speaker 1: going to cover DeAndre Hopkins and it had always been
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Speaker 1: Jailen Um now, I don't expect that anybody's going to
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Speaker 1: go one on one him the whole way, and it's
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Speaker 1: two tasking. They didn't want to do it with Jalen,
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Speaker 1: which angered him as we all know now. But I
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Speaker 1: am interested to see boy A line up across from him.
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Speaker 1: He did it in practice for a number of years.
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Speaker 1: He's not the same he doesn't have the same length,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have that that physical presence that Jalen does.
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Speaker 1: But he's a competitive guy and I'm anxious to see
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Speaker 1: how he does when he's lined up against Here's how
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Speaker 1: hard it is to cover hopp into one on wine
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Speaker 1: as you as you knew Brian, Jalen wanted to and
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Speaker 1: during the games there were times where they had to
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Speaker 1: help and he needed help, and he knew he needed
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Speaker 1: to help. So that's how good DeAndre Hopkins. I don't
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Speaker 1: expect them to travel boy because he's really not that
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Speaker 1: sort of player who's going to do that. But so
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Speaker 1: you're gonna need safety help. More importantly to me, you
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Speaker 1: don't stop Hopkins with boy A. You stop Hopkins by
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Speaker 1: stopping the Ryan stop and getting too Deshaun Watson and
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Speaker 1: not pressuring him so that he can't get to Hopkins, well,
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Speaker 1: they'll be able to offer some safety help because Will
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Speaker 1: Fuller is not healthy. Kikuti is not going to be
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Speaker 1: the guy that's going to get that done. And look,
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Speaker 1: controlling DeAndre Hopkins is seven catches and seventy yards, you know,
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Speaker 1: and he's going to convert because he's the guy on
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Speaker 1: third down. He is that guy that you know where
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Speaker 1: he's going to be. Um if he gets eleven catches
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Speaker 1: for hundred and sixty yards and two touchdowns, which he
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Speaker 1: is eminently capable of doing, your chances of beating them
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Speaker 1: are completely off the charts. Here's where you have to
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Speaker 1: stop Hopkins. To me, there will be he'll catch eight
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Speaker 1: for ninety. There will be three plays that in some
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Speaker 1: games he turns third and six into first down. You
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Speaker 1: need to stop a couple of those players and get
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Speaker 1: them off the field. He's gonna get his, but you've
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Speaker 1: got to get him off the fielding key situations. So
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Speaker 1: I would I would expect maybe maybe a couple of
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Speaker 1: exotic books on that, But again, I just think the
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Speaker 1: way to stop a great receiver is to never let
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Speaker 1: the quarterback at the ball. I was hand. I go
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Speaker 1: back to Jalen's rookie year, and it was the first
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Speaker 1: matchup between the two was here in the stadium in
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Speaker 1: and Jalen did a phenomenal job the whole game. And
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Speaker 1: then late in the ball game, it was third and
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Speaker 1: six and Hopkins made the catch. The ball went right
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Speaker 1: to where Jalen could get it or Hopkins could get it.
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Speaker 1: Hopkins reached out and took it away from him and
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Speaker 1: then they went down the field scored, game was over.
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Speaker 1: He didn't have a big day, but he caught that
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Speaker 1: one critical ball. That's what you have to stop. And
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, there'll be a few of them. You've
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Speaker 1: got to find a way to break those up. Mark Vandomir,
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Speaker 1: voice of the Houston Texans, joined us later on the show,
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Speaker 1: so he'll have much more to say about the Texans.
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Speaker 1: But let's go back to Gardner Minshew because on Good
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Speaker 1: Morning Football this morning, it was the first time he
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Speaker 1: really got point out flanked out. Asked about being the
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Speaker 1: starting quarterback and if he wanted to be. He said,
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Speaker 1: of course, any competitor wants to be the guy. But
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Speaker 1: I understand regardless of the decision. So I was curious
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Speaker 1: to see how he would answer that question, because really,
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Speaker 1: no one point out has asked him that yet, Well,
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Speaker 1: the sentiment that I'm hearing, not in the building outside
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Speaker 1: the building now is well, let's wait till after the
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Speaker 1: Texans game. If he goes there and beats the Texans
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Speaker 1: in London, then you stick with him until such point
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Speaker 1: that he shows he's a rookie late in the year,
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Speaker 1: and then you go back to fools. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what the sentiment in the building is. It's as tight
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Speaker 1: liped as can be. However, Um, if he beats them
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Speaker 1: over there, oh yeah, it will it will be. It
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Speaker 1: will be a really difficult decision to pull him out
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Speaker 1: of the line of because look, the Jaguars have lost
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Speaker 1: what fourteen of their last eighteen games against the Houston Texans.
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Speaker 1: They've lost the last three in a row, though they
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Speaker 1: had a chance to to win obviously in Week two. UM,
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Speaker 1: beating to Shawn Watson right now, and obviously he doesn't
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Speaker 1: have to worry about lining up against the Shawn Watson,
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Speaker 1: but playing welling up and putting it up points on
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Speaker 1: the board and being consistent against the Texans team. It's
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Speaker 1: going to get that from Deshaun Watson. That's a that
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Speaker 1: is a toll order for a young player. The reason
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Speaker 1: it's tight lipped uh around the building is because, as
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Speaker 1: weird as this will sound to people who look at
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Speaker 1: it from the outside, this is the decision of one guy.
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Speaker 1: This is a Doug mor Own decision. Now. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: there will be conversations. I'm sure there will be discussions,
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Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be a vote. Uh. And Doug
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Speaker 1: I really believe when he says he hasn't thought about it.
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Speaker 1: There's some coaches who give that coach speak. Um, I
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Speaker 1: don't think Doug has thought that far ahead, because I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he has an idea in his mind, but
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Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten down to yeah, you're nay. If it
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Speaker 1: comes down to the Texans game, it's gonna be minshew.
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Speaker 1: Not necessarily because of the win, because I don't know
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Speaker 1: if they're gonna win or not. But he's gonna throw
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Speaker 1: three yards because as we've talked about this week, Brian,
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Speaker 1: and this is a struggling secondary, very high probability. This
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Speaker 1: gets into gardener the zone for a lot of yards
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Speaker 1: where they getting the red zone or not we'll see
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Speaker 1: or in the end zone there in the red zone. So, um,
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Speaker 1: I don't expect to hear a whole lot about this
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Speaker 1: decision until Marone makes it, probably in thirteen days. Well,
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Speaker 1: consider also now the absence of j. J. Watt, and
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Speaker 1: the average fan will look, well, we only had four
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Speaker 1: and a half sacks, but if you watch them at all,
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Speaker 1: you see how many times he hits the quarterback. There's
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Speaker 1: something called first pressure. It's the next generation stat, and
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Speaker 1: he has sixty two first pressures on the quarterback, which
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Speaker 1: is far and away more than any other player in
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Speaker 1: the league has to this point. He hits the quarterback
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Speaker 1: more than anyone else does. So the absence of what
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Speaker 1: the absence of Jonathan Joseph, though he may play this week.
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Speaker 1: Bradley Roby to Shaun Gibson, you know they had to
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Speaker 1: go and send draft choices for Garon Conley. They were
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Speaker 1: signing players left and right. They have troubles on defense.
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Speaker 1: This to me comes down to the Jaguars defense against
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. And you all saw that touched on throw
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Speaker 1: that he made were he stumbled, got kicked in the face,
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Speaker 1: just threw the ball in the direction of Daniel fells Well,
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Speaker 1: and apparently Fellas has just become a He's been a
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Speaker 1: good signed. Yeah, yeah, He's a guy that he seems
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Speaker 1: to find that spot and Watson trust him and knows
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Speaker 1: where he's at. That's kind of what I was hoping
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars would find for their young quarterback. Obviously nothing
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Speaker 1: materialized yesterday in the trade market, but find a player
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Speaker 1: like James O'Shaughnessy was for them in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the field. They don't have that right now. If you
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Speaker 1: want to see Minshoo take another step, have that kind
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Speaker 1: of guy waiting for him almost any situation. Yeah, he
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Speaker 1: saw that briefly with that one catch from Josh Oliver
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Speaker 1: trying to get into the end zone. Wicked hit and oh,
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Speaker 1: Shaunessy was the guy who's been around the league for
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Speaker 1: a couple of years. Not a great player, but he
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Speaker 1: found a niche. Fellas has found a niche. Jack need
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Speaker 1: to find that player and you're gonna see I don't
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Speaker 1: know if he Josh Allen is going to be the
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Speaker 1: player that you want him to be this year, fulfilling that.
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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see more out of him. They
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Speaker 1: still really like Josh Oliver. I think he saw a
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Speaker 1: couple of things the other day where he got open
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. Didn't make the catch.
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Speaker 1: I expect the last nine games him to make more
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Speaker 1: of an impact than people think base of his first
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Speaker 1: two games. I think he's gonna be Okay, we haven't
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Speaker 1: really seen much of him at all. We can't really
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Speaker 1: form an opinion that we haven't seen it. It's it's
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Speaker 1: conventional wisdom that says, you know, how how close can
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Speaker 1: he get to being the guy? That's where he needs
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Speaker 1: to be dependable as a rookie who missed half the season.
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Speaker 1: Conventional wisdom says he can't get that close. But we'll see.
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Speaker 1: I mean long term, I think you hold out a
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Speaker 1: lot of hope for the kind of player when you
10:34
Speaker 1: look at him physically, I mean the length of his arms,
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Speaker 1: in his running style. I mean he's fluid athlete. I'm
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Speaker 1: just talking about right now. You'd like to see him
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Speaker 1: get more involved, that's for sure. Well they're trying, all right.
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Speaker 1: As we get into Ashland, ask filling the blanks to
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Speaker 1: see how well these two have been paying attention in
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Speaker 1: the locker room and press conferences. Hopefully they that they're studying.
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Speaker 1: Are you ready? I that's your line. I should stop
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Speaker 1: even asking me if you're all right? Ashlen Ask number one.
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Speaker 1: This is from Chris Connelly. A few blanks. I've stepped
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Speaker 1: up my game today. Everyone gives me a hard time
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Speaker 1: because they consider me a blank blank. I have to
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Speaker 1: remind them the blank guy out there had the blank
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Speaker 1: speed on the field today. Three of those blanks. Two
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Speaker 1: of those blanks are the same word. John, you're quick.
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Speaker 1: You must have been there one of you two. You
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Speaker 1: don't look confident, John, Will you threw me off? I
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Speaker 1: think it's old man, oldest and fastest. Let me see yours, Brian.
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Speaker 1: John technically gets it because it is old man, not
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Speaker 1: old guy, but I'll give it back both to you.
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Speaker 1: John technically gets you, but you technically get it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because yes, everyone considers me an old man. I have
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Speaker 1: to remind them the oldest guy had the fastest speed
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Speaker 1: on the field day. Regarding Chris Connelly's touchdown, Yeah, they
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Speaker 1: do call him an old man, even though league years
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Speaker 1: He's really not. What's going on there? I dropped my pants,
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Speaker 1: drop my marker key to Ashlen ask if you give
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Speaker 1: me props in the morning, you're gonna have to expect
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Speaker 1: some errors. Please get it together, alright, fill in the
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Speaker 1: blank number two. Doug Marrone said this, he does not
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Speaker 1: play like he was brought into this league a blank
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Speaker 1: draft pick or something like that post game Sunday after
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Speaker 1: the Jets win. All right, Brian, you first, he does
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Speaker 1: not play like a low draft pick, and correct. I
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Speaker 1: think this is from Doug Maron and I believe it's
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Speaker 1: six round draft pick. Her regarding Garner Minshew does not
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Speaker 1: play like a six round I'm not in the locker
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Speaker 1: room post game anymore. So you have to read the transcripts.
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Speaker 1: You have to prepare. You got this one, come on,
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Speaker 1: we'll bring it back. I had the general idea on
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Speaker 1: Chris Connolly. You know, here we go last films, highlight
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Speaker 1: of day. It is. It's really not. That's what's amazing.
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Speaker 1: This is good in saving the highlight alright. A J.
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Speaker 1: Boyer said this in the locker room. We're just letting
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Speaker 1: them come to us and we're playing blank blank. When
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Speaker 1: Blank got that first pick, I felt like Blank got
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Speaker 1: that pick. Oh, come on, you have to try. I
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Speaker 1: can get the second and third, but I can't get
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Speaker 1: the first. All right, we'll take a guess. We're just
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Speaker 1: letting them come to us and we're playing blank blank.
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Speaker 1: Obviously he's talking about turnovers here. Yeah, I thought I
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Speaker 1: can get through. I'm trying to help you out, man.
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Speaker 1: Don't help your boy John out here. We're just lett
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Speaker 1: him come to us and we're playing blank blank today, John,
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Speaker 1: I got this. The first is clearly paint ball, um,
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Speaker 1: and the second is Trey, and the third is I
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Speaker 1: so Tray and I very definitely that would be three.
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Speaker 1: And obviously it's paintball. Um. No, that's incorrect. They're playing
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Speaker 1: great ball. Great ball. I thought he said, paintball. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: you know what, You're still the winner this week. John,
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Speaker 1: it's not And it's not even the best part of
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Speaker 1: my dad. Good for you. I have more awesome things coming.
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Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, when a J Boy said that,
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Speaker 1: I think it was very telling because you did see
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Speaker 1: everyone celebrate, the entire defense celebrate with tray. It's it's uh.
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Speaker 1: It goes back to something Chris Conny said after the game.
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Speaker 1: Doug Morons talked about it. These guys really are playing
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Speaker 1: for each other. And as much as that's a cliche,
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Speaker 1: as much as the camaraderie thing gets some I roll.
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Speaker 1: You've seen it the last couple of weeks to a
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Speaker 1: remarkable level that on both sides of ball, but I've
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Speaker 1: noticed it on defense. A lot of these guys really
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Speaker 1: playing for the guy next day. Well, and let's be honest,
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Speaker 1: it goes back to last year. Jalen Ramsey and a
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Speaker 1: J Boy grew apart last year. There were disagreements, there
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Speaker 1: were moments on the field, and the two of them,
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Speaker 1: not necessarily publicly, but they just sort of separated from
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Speaker 1: as tight as they were in And so when you
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Speaker 1: see and I did see a J Boy's reaction, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't just he I felt great for him, although it
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Speaker 1: was it was this is much better than it was
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Speaker 1: with Jalen. Here he feels like there is more of
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Speaker 1: a work together sort of unity in that secondary than
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Speaker 1: there was last year. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a
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Speaker 1: coincidence when he said it's a totally different field than
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Speaker 1: two weeks ago. We all know what happened is all
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Speaker 1: about a j Boyer was the good soldier. Last year,
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Speaker 1: he just took it. He just took all the abuse,
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Speaker 1: he took all of the lack of respect, and he
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Speaker 1: just played. And this year he's enjoying it more and
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Speaker 1: you can tell he's playing. He's also healthy, yes, and
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Speaker 1: he was healthy dealing with a lot of injuries last year.
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Speaker 1: My question is with Trey Herndon. I mean, you've heard
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Speaker 1: all the every single week all they're picking on him.
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Speaker 1: They're picking on him, but we've seen him take steps.
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Speaker 1: But how much of his performance last week was him
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Speaker 1: taking steps in the right direction or just the Jets
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Speaker 1: not being a very good offense. Well, I think this
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Speaker 1: is him taking steps in the right direction. You know,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, if you talk to any of the coaches,
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Speaker 1: they will tell you that they really liked turned in
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Speaker 1: and in fact, before the whole Jalen Ramsey thing exploded.
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Speaker 1: You looked at a J. Boyer and his fifteen and
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Speaker 1: a half million dollars in salary this year and next
18:33
Speaker 1: and realizing that they may have to do something with him.
18:36
Speaker 1: Herndon was the guy that they were penciling in to
18:38
Speaker 1: play across from Jalen Ramsey here long term. Well, they
18:41
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done that if they didn't think he could
18:42
Speaker 1: grow into this. I think perhaps he's growing quicker than
18:45
Speaker 1: they had anticipated that. He was making strides against Carolina
18:49
Speaker 1: and got better against the Bengals, and then this last
18:52
Speaker 1: week had the two interceptions. I don't think it matters
18:54
Speaker 1: who they played. I think he's playing better. He's playing better.
18:57
Speaker 1: I mean it helps to play and him. You get
19:00
Speaker 1: interceptions in this league, are you guys are usually going
19:02
Speaker 1: to come and get to struggling quarterback because the good
19:04
Speaker 1: ones just done through two picks. Uh. But for Herndon,
19:09
Speaker 1: he is going to get picked on a lot. He's
19:11
Speaker 1: going to get targeted a lot in the NFL, and
19:13
Speaker 1: these days, when that happens, you're going to give up
19:16
Speaker 1: plays because the quarterbacks are too good. The flip side
19:19
Speaker 1: of that is if you can get interceptions to compliment that,
19:23
Speaker 1: If you can break serve an interception, uh, analytically more
19:29
Speaker 1: than makes up for a touchdown allowed, the momentum, a turnover, etcetera.
19:33
Speaker 1: So if he can get some interceptions, if he can
19:36
Speaker 1: take advantage of the air and passes, Ben Hill have
19:38
Speaker 1: had a good year. Boy will tell you that Trey
19:40
Speaker 1: Herndon has a chance to be him. In other words,
19:42
Speaker 1: has a chance to go into a player that earns
19:44
Speaker 1: a big contract and has a prominent place in the defense. Yeah.
19:47
Speaker 1: The funny thing about Trey, We're starting to learn more
19:49
Speaker 1: about him, obviously with these past few weeks. He is
19:52
Speaker 1: by far the quiet a sky in the locker room,
19:55
Speaker 1: so much so that when he got the interceptions, I'm
19:57
Speaker 1: so used to being with being on the sidelines, you
19:59
Speaker 1: hear yelling loud, everything's crazy. He walks, Bay goes stop
20:03
Speaker 1: playing with me, man like that quietly, and I happen
20:06
Speaker 1: to be staying there, so I heard it. But I'm
20:08
Speaker 1: so used to these elaborate celebrations, and that's what we
20:11
Speaker 1: get playing back. Yeah, and he has much more room
20:15
Speaker 1: to grow. He doesn't have a Jalen Ramsey ceiling, but
20:18
Speaker 1: he can play as good as the guy across from him.
20:20
Speaker 1: Eventually I might tell you what it's impressive. He has
20:24
Speaker 1: not lost confidence even when he get picked on early
20:28
Speaker 1: at that position. If if you can accept or not accept,
20:33
Speaker 1: but if you can play through giving things up and
20:36
Speaker 1: go ahead and make plays. Uh, you know it's the
20:39
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20:41
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22:33
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars get ready to head to London tomorrow, Crazy tomorrow.
22:51
Speaker 1: I haven't packed a think We're not sarsed. I'm stressed.
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Speaker 1: want to sit next to me. All right, John, here
23:06
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Speaker 1: I know you are. Tyler from Jacksonville. It seems like
23:11
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people excited about the young
23:14
Speaker 1: talent on the team, but also wanting to clean house
23:17
Speaker 1: on the front office. These things are often offered up
23:20
Speaker 1: together without any sense of irony. What gifts. Oh well,
23:24
Speaker 1: as you know, Brian, irony can be pretty ironic. And
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Speaker 1: uh it is. You started to sort of feel this
23:35
Speaker 1: early in the season that people were liking the young talent.
23:39
Speaker 1: This might be the best draft class and franchise history.
23:42
Speaker 1: I mean we said that about the sixteen draft class.
23:46
Speaker 1: Uh sixty is pretty good. He's pretty good. But it
23:49
Speaker 1: seen didn't have a quarterback and that's what pushes it
23:52
Speaker 1: over the top. The national team's missing the first pick
23:55
Speaker 1: and that right, But this year and I as a
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Speaker 1: quarterback has a pass rusher, which is number two behind
24:03
Speaker 1: quarterback numbers of importance. And it's got an offensive tackle,
24:06
Speaker 1: which I know he's kind of left tackle, but it's
24:08
Speaker 1: number three Juwan Taylor. You know from talking to people
24:13
Speaker 1: as much as people talking about Josh Allen Minshew, Uh
24:16
Speaker 1: might be the best of the bunch by the time
24:18
Speaker 1: he's done at his position. And that's saying a lot
24:20
Speaker 1: because he's other two guys, Josh Allen, that's the conversation anyway. UM,
24:27
Speaker 1: how do you jibe that with? Oh, fire everybody? UM?
24:33
Speaker 1: I think this, if you look at the last two
24:35
Speaker 1: or three drafts and take them in hole, uh a
24:39
Speaker 1: pretty good job, and we might be seeing the core
24:46
Speaker 1: of twenty you know, you know, late playing and when
24:52
Speaker 1: you package those draft picks they've got, we may be
24:55
Speaker 1: looking at at the shift and the first signs of
24:59
Speaker 1: a pretty good young team. I was listening to a
25:01
Speaker 1: show on the satellite UH last night driving home, and
25:05
Speaker 1: Pat Kerwin, the former jets Um general manager who now
25:08
Speaker 1: does the Sarah the Satellite thing, he made a point
25:13
Speaker 1: that anytime you hire a coach in this day and age,
25:16
Speaker 1: you better plan on five years. Well we don't do that.
25:19
Speaker 1: I mean when when Gus Bradley got that much time?
25:21
Speaker 1: People want what are you doing here? And you know
25:24
Speaker 1: I had four and you get four right when he
25:26
Speaker 1: when he got as long as he did. The point
25:27
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25:30
Speaker 1: in they change the way they do things, which means
25:32
Speaker 1: they have to change personnel to some degree. And he
25:35
Speaker 1: was talking about Zach Taylor and the start that they
25:37
Speaker 1: have oh and eight now for the Bengals and said
25:39
Speaker 1: what a disaster it would be if they fired him
25:41
Speaker 1: after this year, because you're just starting over on another
25:44
Speaker 1: five year cycle. The reason I bring up the comment was,
25:48
Speaker 1: this is Doug's third year here. They've been developing players. Well,
25:52
Speaker 1: if you pull the plug just because you go eight
25:54
Speaker 1: and eight, right or seven and nine, all these young
25:57
Speaker 1: players don't get the benefit of the ability of a
26:00
Speaker 1: system to develop in. It's why you must practice patients.
26:05
Speaker 1: Did you see the video that um, I'm sure you
26:07
Speaker 1: did because it was on social media? Uh, Levian Bell
26:10
Speaker 1: this morning? Patients? Patients, patients or really do you ever
26:13
Speaker 1: hear a player talk about patients? But he was trying
26:15
Speaker 1: to explain to Jets fans why they should have patients
26:18
Speaker 1: in the first year of these players, together with the
26:20
Speaker 1: first year the coach and the general manager patients. We've
26:23
Speaker 1: lost all patients in sports today, not just the NFL
26:26
Speaker 1: and certainly not just in Jacksonville. But if you see
26:30
Speaker 1: the signs of these guys coming along, and the quarterback
26:33
Speaker 1: isn't just the quarterback, he's the product of the offensive
26:36
Speaker 1: coordinator and the head coach and the quarterbacks coach, patients
26:39
Speaker 1: see the signs of what's coming. When you consider they
26:43
Speaker 1: lost their starting quarterback, what twelve plays in and their
26:47
Speaker 1: best player walks on him, and they're still in the
26:51
Speaker 1: hunt of patients, everybody needs to just take a deep
26:55
Speaker 1: breath and see the micro and not just the macro
26:59
Speaker 1: and alais it's it's a pretty young team in the
27:03
Speaker 1: field right now. They can go back to guys they
27:07
Speaker 1: really like. For whatever happened, you got in the draft class,
27:11
Speaker 1: for whatever happened, they got Quincy Williams bench. My understanding
27:15
Speaker 1: is they couldn't be more excited about what he's going
27:17
Speaker 1: to be. And I feel like he learned from being benched,
27:19
Speaker 1: and then when he comes back and benched given a break,
27:22
Speaker 1: he's probably the more appropriate term what it was. He
27:25
Speaker 1: only had six games at linebacker. He was in a
27:26
Speaker 1: linebacker Murray State. He was a safety, right, So here
27:29
Speaker 1: he goes and he misses most of August, all of August,
27:32
Speaker 1: so he's got what six games at linebacker, and then
27:35
Speaker 1: he's going against Christie McAffrey. They firmly believe that a
27:39
Speaker 1: Minshew Taylor, Alan Williams and uh tight end Josh all
27:51
Speaker 1: five and Rocks doing what he's doing. But those five especially,
27:55
Speaker 1: they think they've got big time players in this position. Well,
27:58
Speaker 1: if you get a draft with five big time players,
28:00
Speaker 1: I mean rare. Are you going to find the seventy
28:02
Speaker 1: four Steelers draft when your draft four Hall of famers? Right?
28:05
Speaker 1: But if you can find five guys that are long
28:08
Speaker 1: term solutions in your lineup from a salary cap perspective,
28:11
Speaker 1: let alone from a wins and losses perspective, good on you.
28:14
Speaker 1: Here's the bigger reality of that. If your draft has
28:17
Speaker 1: if you look back in five years and your draft
28:19
Speaker 1: has one great player who has signed his next contract,
28:23
Speaker 1: it's a good draft. If it's got a quarterback in it,
28:26
Speaker 1: it's franchise change. If it's got quarterback and four other
28:30
Speaker 1: really good players, it's just a thought. To go back
28:33
Speaker 1: on Juwan Taylor. You know, it seemed like every game
28:35
Speaker 1: early on there was a holding call or even two
28:37
Speaker 1: as he was sort of adjusting. I don't believe he
28:40
Speaker 1: had holding call it all last week against the Jets.
28:42
Speaker 1: I think he had something, but it was Cam Robinson
28:44
Speaker 1: on the other side. Um, I'd have to go back
28:47
Speaker 1: and look to see if there was any penalty at
28:49
Speaker 1: all on him. Um. He's already strong and smart and
28:54
Speaker 1: tough and adjusting to the speed of the game, especially
28:57
Speaker 1: when you're the right tackle and they're moving. Guy is
29:00
Speaker 1: all over the place on you. It takes some time.
29:03
Speaker 1: I saw him play maybe his best game last week,
29:06
Speaker 1: and no penalties on top of it makes it really
29:09
Speaker 1: really good. He's big time. They think he's gonna be
29:11
Speaker 1: all absolutely all right, let's go to the next OH Zone.
29:14
Speaker 1: Shane from Atlanta, Georgia. We've already addressed a little bit.
29:18
Speaker 1: Can't we expect to see a j Boy shadow DeAndre
29:21
Speaker 1: Hopkins all game? I don't think so, and only because
29:27
Speaker 1: I don't think that's really the game or the way
29:31
Speaker 1: to maximize Boy the entire games of Jalen. I also
29:35
Speaker 1: don't think realistically it was always the best for Jalen,
29:39
Speaker 1: although Jalen believed that, Uh, it's always best, especially in
29:44
Speaker 1: this scheme, to be able to play a mix of defense.
29:46
Speaker 1: I think you'll see boy a on Ramsey more. I
29:49
Speaker 1: don't think it will be as you know, a chest
29:53
Speaker 1: poke out, look at me type thing, but I do
29:57
Speaker 1: believe that you'll see him more on that, but can
30:00
Speaker 1: get a lot of help well. And I do think
30:01
Speaker 1: first of all, boy would like that only from the
30:04
Speaker 1: sense that he's a proud player and the chance to
30:07
Speaker 1: play against DeAndre Hopkins, who we went against and practice
30:11
Speaker 1: all those years. He would rise to that occasion. It's
30:14
Speaker 1: not that they're confident in Tray Herndon against DeAndre Hopkins,
30:18
Speaker 1: because that would be ridiculous to say, but they're not
30:20
Speaker 1: scared to put him out there in certain situations because
30:23
Speaker 1: he does have that length. You know, he's not as
30:25
Speaker 1: tall as Jalen or as wide in the shoulders, but
30:28
Speaker 1: he's got long arms, he's got the physical attributes to
30:30
Speaker 1: be able to bat a ball down and to play
30:33
Speaker 1: him even though he doesn't have the experience to do it.
30:35
Speaker 1: So I just don't think they want to limit themselves
30:37
Speaker 1: and saying Okay, well, how are we gonna do everything else?
30:39
Speaker 1: Because we have to have a j on DeAndre the
30:42
Speaker 1: entire game. That's not the way that Todd wash likes
30:44
Speaker 1: to play it for all the reasons that you enumerated,
30:47
Speaker 1: especially says he can't play good defense without having a
30:49
Speaker 1: guy shadow. Absolutely so. Well, and again, as we mentioned before,
30:53
Speaker 1: you know Will Fuller's not playing right now, and so
30:56
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to do some things with the
30:58
Speaker 1: safeties over the top. Right, Let's go to our last ozone,
31:02
Speaker 1: back to Georgia. Joey from Athens, Oh, is this defense
31:07
Speaker 1: starting to show it can be a linked again? Over
31:09
Speaker 1: the last two games, they've recorded six interceptions and ten sacks. Well,
31:14
Speaker 1: I think it's early Brian to call it elite, because
31:17
Speaker 1: it is shown over eight games that when it's playing
31:21
Speaker 1: a really good offense, it can be vulnerable. It was
31:24
Speaker 1: vulnerable against Carolina with a great player in McCaffrey. It
31:27
Speaker 1: was vulnerable against Kansas City with a great player in
31:29
Speaker 1: the Homes. That said, it's now at the point where
31:33
Speaker 1: through eight games you have I believe it's five games
31:37
Speaker 1: where you've held the opponent under seventeen um. You're now
31:40
Speaker 1: getting You're seeing that the issue with the with the
31:44
Speaker 1: sacks early was more situational, which I said all last
31:48
Speaker 1: year when this team doesn't have leads, when any team
31:51
Speaker 1: doesn't have leads, it's hard to get saxy if you're
31:53
Speaker 1: a great pass rush, because teams, when they're not forced
31:57
Speaker 1: to pass, they get the ball out quicker, they run,
32:01
Speaker 1: they throw patterns that dictate that you not get sacks
32:06
Speaker 1: or interceptions. So that was a lot of it. They're
32:10
Speaker 1: not elite, but they are showing in the last two
32:13
Speaker 1: games that when they're in the right situation, they can
32:15
Speaker 1: be very effective and they can be the strength of team.
32:19
Speaker 1: I think this week is the is the ultimate game
32:23
Speaker 1: for showing where this team has a chance to beat
32:27
Speaker 1: really good team. Meaning it is such a good pass
32:30
Speaker 1: rush that if they can get a lead and get
32:32
Speaker 1: to Deshaun Watson, it can turn into one of those
32:36
Speaker 1: hailstorm games whereverything's happening, but they've got to get a
32:39
Speaker 1: lead to do it. Elite to me is used like
32:42
Speaker 1: the words celebrity, right. I mean, it's just thrown out
32:45
Speaker 1: there all the time, and everyone defines it is something different.
32:50
Speaker 1: I right, this is my wheelhouse. So what I see
32:58
Speaker 1: as a team that doesn't necessarily have a defense in seventeen,
33:03
Speaker 1: when they went out there late in the year and
33:05
Speaker 1: they needed to stop. In most situations, they could get
33:07
Speaker 1: it right there. They could go out, they could summon
33:10
Speaker 1: whatever scheme they needed, and with the elite players, with
33:14
Speaker 1: the Darius Is on the field who's not on the
33:15
Speaker 1: field right now and might not be again this season,
33:17
Speaker 1: with Jalen Ramsey on the back end who's not here
33:20
Speaker 1: any longer, they could go out and count on making
33:22
Speaker 1: a plan getting them off the field in three, four
33:24
Speaker 1: or five six plays. Um, what this looks to me
33:27
Speaker 1: is people hate the term bend but don't break, but
33:31
Speaker 1: it band band, band, give a little, give a little,
33:33
Speaker 1: wait for an opportunity to make a play, and obviously
33:36
Speaker 1: they did the other day with the three interceptions. I
33:39
Speaker 1: don't think this is the Okay, don't worry about this.
33:41
Speaker 1: The defense has got this like the seventeen team was,
33:44
Speaker 1: and we called them elite. I think they're very good
33:47
Speaker 1: and they're getting better, and turnovers, as you know, come
33:51
Speaker 1: and go. But the pressure elite is that guy Josh
33:57
Speaker 1: Allen who is in the league lead for rookie sacks
34:00
Speaker 1: right now and is near the top in nearly every
34:03
Speaker 1: past rushing category. And we're just seeing the beginning of it.
34:07
Speaker 1: When you're that good, that guy who has a career
34:10
Speaker 1: high four sacks gets the opportunity to feast. What they
34:13
Speaker 1: are is deep, They're talented, They're well coached, whether anyone
34:17
Speaker 1: wants to believe that or not because Todd Washing is
34:20
Speaker 1: the scapegoat for so much. They are technically sound, and
34:24
Speaker 1: if Trey Hendon plays well, they have a chance to win.
34:28
Speaker 1: And if Trey Herndon doesn't play well, not that you
34:31
Speaker 1: put it all in one guy, but you get what
34:32
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's a there's a spot here or there
34:35
Speaker 1: you can make a Quincy Williams. If a guy here
34:37
Speaker 1: or there makes a mistake, they're in trouble. A. The
34:41
Speaker 1: good news is they're not the best team in the
34:45
Speaker 1: league CLA, I mean top five defense any longer. And
34:49
Speaker 1: then have different ways they can win. I don't know
34:52
Speaker 1: that Jane Hays have that many different ways they can
34:54
Speaker 1: win right now. But they do have a formula where
34:57
Speaker 1: they can beat anybody, and that's they can get a
35:00
Speaker 1: lead if they can get some confidence on offense and
35:03
Speaker 1: they can get this pass rush going. I don't think
35:06
Speaker 1: there's any team in the league that they can't beat.
35:09
Speaker 1: If if they can somehow get them down by a
35:11
Speaker 1: touchdown and start pass rushing on him. Not every team
35:15
Speaker 1: can say that. If you have to rely on your
35:18
Speaker 1: offense to give you the lead to be at your best,
35:21
Speaker 1: then by my definition, you're not elite. But man, can
35:24
Speaker 1: they get after the quarterback right? And and not just
35:28
Speaker 1: the eight sacks last week, but with have thirteen hits.
35:31
Speaker 1: I mean, Donald was a ping pong ball the entire day.
35:34
Speaker 1: If you can do that to Deshaun Watson, and that
35:37
Speaker 1: hasn't happened a lot to Watson, but if you can
35:39
Speaker 1: spin him around a little bit and make him have
35:41
Speaker 1: to find I mean, really work to get his body,
35:44
Speaker 1: but it's doable. With that offensive line, you can pressure
35:47
Speaker 1: him into not being great. I don't think you're going
35:49
Speaker 1: to completely negate him. But even in the game in
35:53
Speaker 1: Week two, there were some moments where Theys got the
35:57
Speaker 1: pass rush going where all of a sudden you felt
35:59
Speaker 1: that gay turn. Maybe not for sixty minutes, but for enough.
36:02
Speaker 1: My belief is is that the reason that he wasn't
36:05
Speaker 1: the same Deshaun Watson was because DeAndre Hopkins was not
36:09
Speaker 1: the same DeAndre Hopkins. Jalen took him out of the game,
36:11
Speaker 1: and that is what gave the Jaguars a chance to
36:13
Speaker 1: mount that fourth quarter drive. It fell short with the
36:16
Speaker 1: two point conversion, but Jalen, I thought did that because
36:18
Speaker 1: Hopkins was nowhere to be found, and you saw him.
36:21
Speaker 1: He took his comfort away kind of like so now,
36:24
Speaker 1: right right now, without Jalen, they're gonna have to get
36:27
Speaker 1: it done with the guys up front, and good for
36:28
Speaker 1: them against an offensive line that's playing better but not
36:31
Speaker 1: nearly the Cowboys offensive line or the better offensive lines
36:35
Speaker 1: in the league. They've got the horses to get it done. Yes,
36:38
Speaker 1: they do, all right. When we come back. Mark vand
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Speaker 1: South rivals, the Houston Texans in London on Sunday. As
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Speaker 1: we welcome in the voice of the Houston Texans and
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Speaker 1: from our fandom here Mark, thanks so much for joining
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Speaker 1: us this morning. Hello Jaguar friends. Everybody ready? Hey Mark,
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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm doing great and ready to go
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Speaker 1: to London. I'm just a little bit of I don't know,
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Speaker 1: jet lag whimp. We'll see how I do over there.
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Speaker 1: But they do have coffee available out here, so that
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Speaker 1: will help. They do stay awake on Friday. That's the
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Speaker 1: best we can tell you. Stay away. Yeah, well we've
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Speaker 1: done it several times. Um. Just so you know, Mark
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Speaker 1: has been with the Texans since they got started in
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Speaker 1: two thousand two. He's seen the evolution of this franchise,
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Speaker 1: much like John and I have with this Jaguars franchise.
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Speaker 1: And you know the thing that stands out to me
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Speaker 1: about this Texans team, Mark, is on offense, they might
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Speaker 1: be as balanced as you've ever seen. I mean, they've
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Speaker 1: got they've got Carlos Hyde running so well in combination
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Speaker 1: with Watson playing at a very very high level. I
39:31
Speaker 1: don't recall a team that felt is balanced out of
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Speaker 1: Houston as this one is. Yeah, I think you know
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Speaker 1: it harks back when you look at some of the numbers.
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Speaker 1: The OH nine two thousand, two thousand eleven teams had
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Speaker 1: a good passing game and a good running game, but
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Speaker 1: it was a completely different system. So I get your point,
39:49
Speaker 1: because this is what Bill O'Brien calls game plan offense.
39:52
Speaker 1: He says they change it every week, and I know
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Speaker 1: they certainly do change nuances of it to match up
39:57
Speaker 1: with certain opponents what they perceived to be weakness is
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Speaker 1: or take what the defense gives you, or whatever. But
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Speaker 1: I'm really mildly and wonderfully pleasantly surprised that the way
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Speaker 1: they're running the football. I mean, when they began training camp,
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Speaker 1: we thought Lamar Miller and maybe Deante Foreman can finally
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Speaker 1: become who they wanted him to. But both those guys
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Speaker 1: are God Miller's hurt, Foreman was cut during camp, and
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Speaker 1: then you trade for Hide and Duke Johnson to the
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Speaker 1: course of training camp, and look what they're doing for
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Speaker 1: this football team and Watson's rushing yards. It's not like
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Speaker 1: they necessarily depend on them. When he can make some
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Speaker 1: big plays or crucial times, so that obviously helps as well.
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Speaker 1: What would you say the state of the offensive line
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Speaker 1: is right now, Mark, how are they playing? Uh, it's
40:36
Speaker 1: a state in the offensive line in flux because they
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Speaker 1: had a good group together, but it didn't last long
40:44
Speaker 1: because of injuries. What they want is Larrmie tuns left tackle,
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Speaker 1: Titus Howard of right tackle, and the interior guys to
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Speaker 1: do their thing. But throughout the course of the last
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Speaker 1: game they lost both tackles had to end up with well,
40:56
Speaker 1: they had Chris Clark and right tackle. They shipped them
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Speaker 1: to left because Tunsil won out, and then they had
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Speaker 1: Damn Skipper at the right tackle. These guys were not
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Speaker 1: with the team two weeks prior to that, so they
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Speaker 1: got through the guts of that Raider game at the end.
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Speaker 1: Fronch time all of it with two tackles who were
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Speaker 1: not building a couple of weeks before the game. So
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Speaker 1: I thought that was remarkable. But when they get everybody
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Speaker 1: back and it should be pretty soon here tunsall Howard
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Speaker 1: at the tackle spots, I think the line is gonna
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Speaker 1: be good. They just have to play together. You guys know,
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Speaker 1: if you're not playing together, if they're not out there
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Speaker 1: for for snaps week after week. It's hard to get
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Speaker 1: the chemistry you need. And it's a good thing you
41:33
Speaker 1: have Watson who can sort of make up for some
41:35
Speaker 1: of that. But they're still running the football pretty well
41:37
Speaker 1: no matter who's in there. Scene. Take the numbers away
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Speaker 1: from Watson, just give me your sense of how much
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Speaker 1: better he is in the moment this year than last.
41:48
Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems. And I was listening to
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Speaker 1: your broadcast on on Sunday, UM and I heard you
41:55
Speaker 1: say magical and I thought, wow, it must have been
41:57
Speaker 1: a hell of a play. And when I saw it,
41:59
Speaker 1: it was the perfect term. It just seems the kid
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Speaker 1: is playing at at a magical level when the moment
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Speaker 1: his biggest so was he Yeah, And I think he
42:08
Speaker 1: was giving you a lot of this last year also,
42:10
Speaker 1: but he was banged up. I mean when he played
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars in North Florida, he had that collapsed long
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Speaker 1: it to take the bus, you guys tell the whole story, uh,
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Speaker 1: And they were able to win that game. Last year,
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Speaker 1: he made some big plays. I mean he hit DeAndre
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Speaker 1: Hopkins on a pass to set him up in field
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Speaker 1: goal range to beat Dallas. He did the same thing
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Speaker 1: to be Indie the week before. But this year what
42:31
Speaker 1: you're seeing is, I think with some of their defensive
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Speaker 1: issues on the back end, with injuries and things like that,
42:37
Speaker 1: he's had to bring them back from deficit time and
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Speaker 1: time again and throw touchdowns. You know, field goals aren't
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Speaker 1: going to do it, and he's been able to do it.
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Speaker 1: Against the Kansas City Chiefs, he did it. And he's
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Speaker 1: been able to get clock killing against the Chiefs and
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Speaker 1: the Raiders at the end of the game form in
42:52
Speaker 1: an offense, they made the big first down to kill
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Speaker 1: the clock. He's gotten it for them twice. And of
42:56
Speaker 1: course the past catchers have to be credited as well.
42:58
Speaker 1: Hopkins is having a great year. Darren Fells is a
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Speaker 1: revelation of tight end. But yeah, Watson has that blair
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Speaker 1: for the dramatic. He is magical, he's got the will
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Speaker 1: to win. He's got it all guys, and I can't
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Speaker 1: wait to see what materializes from here. Mark J. J.
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Speaker 1: Watt out for the rest of the season. That's a
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Speaker 1: big blow to just the NFL as a whole. But
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Speaker 1: how big of a blow is it to the Texans
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Speaker 1: now not having him? Well, it's huge because he's so dominant,
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Speaker 1: and all the opposing offensive coordinators have to stay up
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Speaker 1: late at night conceiving of ways to stop him. And
43:31
Speaker 1: it's difficult because he's gotten so good at stopping the run.
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Speaker 1: He always has been, but this year that's really standing
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Speaker 1: out to be all the TFLs on the running backs
43:39
Speaker 1: and things like that. The stacked numbers aren't that high
43:42
Speaker 1: this year, but he's still putting fresher on the quarterback.
43:45
Speaker 1: He hitched to Kobe Procett six times and the loss
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Speaker 1: to Indy and Prisette got up all those times, and
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Speaker 1: what was really amazed with that. He was having a
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Speaker 1: really good year. But he's out and it's kind of
43:57
Speaker 1: like Billy Bean or Brad Pitt in the movie Moneyball.
44:00
Speaker 1: I love that movie. What he says, we can't replace Giambi,
44:04
Speaker 1: we have to sort of recreate them, and I think
44:06
Speaker 1: they have to sort of recreate what what does? He
44:08
Speaker 1: can't really do it, you can't duplicate it, but maybe
44:11
Speaker 1: you can get some pass rush from Jake Martin, who
44:13
Speaker 1: they got from Seattle, a little bit more out of
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Speaker 1: bread of Scarlett, Charles A. Metta, who is a rookie
44:17
Speaker 1: from Texas who is getting to the quarterback and Whitney
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Speaker 1: Merciless has been having a good year. So with Whitney
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Speaker 1: doing what he's doing, maybe you can get to the
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Speaker 1: quarterback enough. But yeah, it's incredibly difficult to replace. Why
44:28
Speaker 1: you just can't do it. Have you seen the movie Dodgeball?
44:31
Speaker 1: I have. I just I'm just curious because we were
44:33
Speaker 1: talking about that with Gardner Minshew this morning. Um, didn't
44:36
Speaker 1: you brought up money Ball? I thought I'd insert Dodgeball
44:39
Speaker 1: in there. Are we seeing the transition in Houston to
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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football now? Obviously Jadeveon Clowney
44:46
Speaker 1: we had deeps to do on in Week two and
44:48
Speaker 1: I told her that that that moment, I thought your
44:50
Speaker 1: defense was going to be much different because he was
44:52
Speaker 1: such a game record. He never had the stats of what,
44:55
Speaker 1: uh you know, the high sack numbers. But I know
44:58
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars coaches always is worried about what Jadeveon
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Speaker 1: Clowney could do. He's gone now JJ is gone. Um
45:05
Speaker 1: you see, Jonathan Joseph is getting little longer in the tooth.
45:08
Speaker 1: Some of the draft picks they've invested at corner, you know,
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Speaker 1: or I have moved on to other places. Have we
45:13
Speaker 1: now seen the transition of this defense, and it's gonna
45:15
Speaker 1: have a different personality in the future. It could because
45:19
Speaker 1: I go back to what gets hurt Week three. So
45:22
Speaker 1: they still have Clowney and Merciless and everybody else. And
45:25
Speaker 1: they end up number one in the league in defense
45:27
Speaker 1: yardage wise, and I thought that was incredible. And they
45:30
Speaker 1: won a lot of games with low scores. And I
45:34
Speaker 1: mean they won a game against the Bengals on Monday
45:36
Speaker 1: Night football since he was undefeated at the time midseason
45:39
Speaker 1: and they wanted ten to six. They eat the colt
45:41
Speaker 1: sixteen to ten up there for the first time ever
45:44
Speaker 1: winning an Indian. So they won games like that. I
45:46
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna win too many games like that anymore.
45:48
Speaker 1: They beat the Jags earlier this season, you saw the
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Speaker 1: low scoring close game. I think they're gonna have to
45:52
Speaker 1: get over the twenty mark most of the weeks here.
45:55
Speaker 1: And you know last year beating Dallas a Sunday night
45:58
Speaker 1: football game in overtime nineteen to sixteen. I think you're right.
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Speaker 1: I always look at NFL games like this that the
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Speaker 1: number is twenty. You know, you've got to get a
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Speaker 1: buff twenty. You gotta hold down below and more often
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Speaker 1: than not, that's gonna get it done. I mean, obviously
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Speaker 1: on a given day at will, but that tends to
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Speaker 1: be the level the sea level mark in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking they've got to get three touchdowns a
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Speaker 1: game to win more often than not, just because it's
46:21
Speaker 1: so tough with some of these quarterbacks you're facing. So
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Speaker 1: I hear your point and I agree with it to
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Speaker 1: an extent. But I think if they get some guys
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Speaker 1: back on the back end of this defense, because with
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Speaker 1: Roadie getting back soon they just traded for Conny from Oakland,
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Speaker 1: j Joe is gonna get healthy, that will really help
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Speaker 1: them out. But right now they're dealing with some injuries
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Speaker 1: that it's very tough. All right. Thank you so much
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Speaker 1: Mark for joining us this morning. We will see you
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Speaker 1: in London. Remember no naps on Friday. Key to half
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Speaker 1: on Friday. That's gonna be tough. All right. Thanks cheers,
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Speaker 1: see later, Marks, see you over there. Hey. You know,
46:53
Speaker 1: since since Mark brought it up and we were talking
46:55
Speaker 1: about the defense, the Jaguars defense earlier, um, they held
47:01
Speaker 1: the Saints and the Texans, two very good offenses, to
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Speaker 1: just thirteen points. So throw elite or very good out. Um.
47:10
Speaker 1: This defense has the potential to impose its will at times,
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Speaker 1: and they made low scoring games of it. Um. I'm
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Speaker 1: interested to see if they can do that again this week.
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Speaker 1: They've had three or five really good games one man
47:23
Speaker 1: and two and two awful games and what was the
47:26
Speaker 1: man a game Denver? I thought they were good at times,
47:31
Speaker 1: good for getting back in it and in Kansas City,
47:33
Speaker 1: just because with your rookie quarterback in there. Yeah, defensively,
47:41
Speaker 1: but I remember also, yeah, they gave cheap touchdowns there
47:45
Speaker 1: with turnovers. They played good if they played defense. They
47:47
Speaker 1: can have a season the way they have the first Uh,
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Speaker 1: that'll be enough for a playoff run. All right, And
47:53
Speaker 1: that is our show Wednesday morning, Jags Drive Times, Stay tuned,
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