Latest / Success Story with Scott Clary / Lessons - Why Athletes Often Lose Their Wealth Too Soon | Marques Colston - NFL Veteran & Entrepreneur
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- 0:00In this lessons episode, examine the hidden risks athletes face when sudden
- 0:03wealth and fame collide with inexperience. Learn why lack of financial literacy
- 0:07causes many to squander multi-million dollar contracts. Discover how unvedited
- 0:11advisors and exploitative relationships amplify vulnerabilities.
- 0:15Understand how early self-awareness and proactive investment strategies
- 0:19secure a resilient post-career foundation.
- 0:30I mean, I've had this conversation with other athletes before, um, just about,
- 0:37you know, the seasons of their career and how they set themselves up for success.
- 0:41And you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I would assume if you are early,
- 0:46if you're earlier in the draft, sometimes a little bit of ego creeps in.
- 0:51And then I think, because you know, athletes blow through their money and they end up,
- 0:56and there's some wild stats out there, but people that don't have post-professional, uh,
- 1:01sport careers. And it's just kind of sad that they can take so much money and then, you know,
- 1:07pardon the pun, they fumble it. They, they, they fuck it up. So when you look at some of the people
- 1:12you played with, I'm sure that you see stories, not everybody's successful post-career. What happens
- 1:16in this, in this situation where you're given sort of the world that's such a young age as an
- 1:22athlete and it could be football. I mean, I have examples from hockey of people that screwed up
- 1:27post-career and they're almost broke and whatnot. And I'm sure baseball, basketball, like everything,
- 1:32there's always these examples. What happens to the athlete? Like walk me through that,
- 1:37that mindset of a young athlete just handed so much money and fame and influence.
- 1:41It's not too dissimilar from, from a lottery winner, right? Um, you know, you, you live your everyday
- 1:47life. Um, and, you know, all of a sudden, there's this, there's this influx of cash, right? And,
- 1:55um, you know, you get drafted and, and you kind of see it, you kind of see it coming. But your
- 2:00life is not set up, you know, to receive that, that kind of notoriety is not set up to receive
- 2:06that kind of income. And, and ultimately, more often not, um, you know, I, I speak for myself.
- 2:12So I came from a situation where I didn't, I didn't have access to capital. I didn't have access
- 2:17to entrepreneurship and, you know, high level business. And, um, most of the people that I knew
- 2:23growing up in the families that I knew, you know, were more blue collar, right? So, um, I just
- 2:28didn't have exposure to what that world looked like. And, you know, if you are 22 years old,
- 2:36coming out of, coming out of college, um, you know, you give anybody this 22 year old,
- 2:4022 years old, coming out of fresh out of college, you give them, you know, a couple of million
- 2:43dollars, um, is no tell what might happen, right? Now, you, you take that same situation, you put
- 2:50them under the limelight and you surround them with an ecosystem that, that is not necessarily set up
- 2:56to, um, to really give a shit about your best interests. Um, your best interests are, are secured
- 3:02once somebody else's best interests are, um, you know, it becomes a really nuanced situation,
- 3:07right? So you got somebody that has not had exposure, um, typically your family and your
- 3:14inner circle still has not had that same exposure. So now you've got to, you got to depend on
- 3:19people from outside of your inner circle, um, you got a higher and agent, you got a higher financial
- 3:25advisor and it really becomes this game of, do I feel like I can trust this person? Because at
- 3:3122, I don't really know exactly what they do. Um, I don't really have the, the financial knowledge
- 3:37and expertise to even check them if they are doing some fucked up. So you, you kind of get into
- 3:43this place where you're, you're choosing people to play really pivotal roles in your career
- 3:49and you don't really know how to evaluate and hire for a job, right? So it, it, it lends itself to,
- 3:56um, you know, bad decisions that lends itself to, you know, making young people decisions,
- 4:02but it also lends itself to being in a situation where you are more vulnerable than most because
- 4:09you just don't have that, you don't have that expertise and that exposure to be able to hold
- 4:13the people in your circle accountable. And the people that you trust the most, they don't have
- 4:19the, they don't have the experience and the education to be able to do the same. So you kind of
- 4:23find yourself as a captain of his ship, um, but you don't really know how to operate the ship.
- 4:29And I mean, there's a lot of, I'm sure there's a lot of great good ethical people out there that
- 4:34help athletes, but I think there's a lot of bullshit too. I mean, I've spoken to Chris Prager,
- 4:39he's a good friend and he, he was like a very big hockey player. It's sort of like my reference
- 4:43point. And he's, he's spoken about some of the people that have, not as agents throughout his
- 4:48career were good, but like people that have solicited investments and then he's, he's had some that
- 4:52were just absolute misses and everybody's asking for money because every, and also everybody sees
- 4:57the contract sizes, but I've also seen, and I didn't even know this, he, Chris did a really good
- 5:04job doing this and some other people on social do this. When you break down like all after tax,
- 5:12after agent fees, after association fees, like it's still a lot of money. Don't get me wrong.
- 5:18It's more money than most people make out whatever 22, but you end up spending a lot of it
- 5:24before you actually have any in the bank. And I think that you also just completely don't have
- 5:30the, the understanding of what money is at that point. And I think that's, that's really where
- 5:35you screw up. And I mean, I don't even know if you know stats. Maybe you do because you were an
- 5:39athlete, but I've heard some ridiculous stats about how many professional athletes with, you know,
- 5:45seven figure, eight figure contracts are bankrupt and broke. And after they, after they finished
- 5:51playing. So just sad. It's just very, very sad. Yeah. And it is, it is a nuanced conversation
- 5:57again because, you know, I've seen this step for a decade and it's pissed me off every time I've
- 6:02seen it. It talks about 70% of NFL players are within five years of retirement or financial distress.
- 6:11Right. So yes, there are some of the horror stories. And I think by those stories becoming
- 6:17more and more visible, you know, past generations, I think, I think this generation of future
- 6:22generations are going to be able to learn from those, those challenges and those mistakes.
- 6:26But also baked in those numbers is, is the guy that, that played two years and made league,
- 6:32league minimum. Right. So what is your definition of financial distress? Because at the end of
- 6:38the day, you look at, you look at a salary cap and you look at a roster, you know, the bulk of,
- 6:45the money being paid out, it is going to the top five or six players. And then you've got 40,
- 6:5240 some odd people, you know, kind of splitting up the, the rest of the pie. And yes, you,
- 6:59again, you see the horror stories. And we have seen the horror stories over the years. But that
- 7:04number is, is, I would say that number is not, it's, it's a little bit more misleading than people
- 7:10realize because you, you have guys that are that have not been invested and they have not reached
- 7:14the, the status where they've getting, getting benefits. You got guys that played one, two, three
- 7:19years that yes, it's, it's really good money. But it's not, you know, kick my feet up and,
- 7:25and retire for the rest of my life money. So, you know, the numbers are the numbers and,
- 7:30and you know, we know there's still work to be done, but it's, it's, it's a little bit more
- 7:35than what meets the surface. Even in your career, you were forward thinking, I think is the best
- 7:40way to, to put it. So even walk me through your mindset when you get drafted, you weren't just
- 7:47waiting for your career to end to start building. So what was the thing that made you realize,
- 7:54like light bulb moment, maybe it was getting drafted at a higher number or whatnot. But what was
- 7:59it that made you realize, okay, so I want to set myself up for a success post career because
- 8:05I think some of your investments were made while you were still playing from not mistaken,
- 8:09correct? Yeah, I got started pretty, pretty early on in my career. So I created that to,
- 8:16I had two financial buyers that were former players themselves, who saw something in me and,
- 8:22and you just kind of pushed me to get out of the box. And for me, I've always kind of been a
- 8:27tinker. I've always been somebody who's been, you know, interested in technology, interested in,
- 8:33and more so electronics than anything else. And I've also known that, you know, football is the
- 8:39thing that I'm, I think that I do that I'm really good at, but it doesn't define who I am as a person.
- 8:44So I think the, the combination of me just kind of having some self awareness and then having
- 8:50those two advisors that really pushed me out of my comfort zone and pushed me out of that box.
- 8:55I was able to get started early and just again, some of it just, just being fortunate enough
- 9:02to stay healthy enough to play 10 years. I like to say I was able over that 10-year run,
- 9:07I was able to give myself a long enough runway to make some mistakes,
- 9:13getting into some situations that I loved, getting into some situations that I, you know,
- 9:17later realized that I hated and didn't ever want to do again. But, you know, over the course of
- 9:23my playing career, when I was kind of at the top, the top of my game from a brand perspective,
- 9:27I was able to get in and get some really, really boots on the ground of business experience
- 9:33that has kind of driven me, you know, in, in return. And the first, I mean, you, you said,
- 9:39just so you had these, these, sort of like these two financial advisors, these peers, like
- 9:44players themselves, they knew the game and knew what you were going to have to deal with when
- 9:48you did retire. What was, so what was the, what was the, the first version of, of you investing,
- 9:55of you raising money of, because you didn't come from an operator background, it's not like you
- 10:00had built a business and then you exited that and then you started investing in something you knew.
- 10:05So now it's like every opportunity to invest is available, but you still lack a lot of operational
- 10:13experience in doing the thing. So how do you bridge that gap? And I'm sure you had, listen,
- 10:17I'm sure you had some, some losses and some, and some things didn't work out so well as well
- 10:22with the, with the investments. But, uh, talking through like just as, as a player turning investor,
- 10:28what was the first version of that? So really, really early on, um, we was just kind of
- 10:34angel investing. Um, I tried to stay in, in a, in a space where I at least knew one part of
- 10:39the business, which was sports. So I, I got started at the intersection of sports and technology.
- 10:44Um, so, so a lot of those early investments were kind of co-investments with other athletes and
- 10:49it was, it was more just deploy the capital and kind of see what happens. Um, but I'd say the,
- 10:57the first investment that, that really, you know, was, was the first time that I rolled my sleeves
- 11:02up and got really engaged with the company. Um, I invested in the indoor football team back in my
- 11:08hometown. And, uh, I want to say 20, 2010. And, you know, for me, it was an opportunity to,
- 11:17to kind of learn the, the, the, the, the, the business side of the sport that I was playing. Um,
- 11:23and it was also, it was in my hometown. So it was a really good platform for me to do some
- 11:27community outreach at scale. That, that's kind of how I viewed it. And, you know, I got in,
- 11:32I made the investment the first year. I was, I was a passive investor. I just kind of watched
- 11:36the owner kind of, kind of shadowed him and, and just watched what it looked like to, to, to,
- 11:41to run a team, to operate team from soup to nuts. And in watching him for a year, I just, I got
- 11:48that itch. And, um, after the first year, I ended up buying my partner out, taking over the team,
- 11:54100, uh, so ownership of the team. And I assumed the role of president and general manager. And
- 12:00my role was literally everything in the organization at that time. You know, we had a small team.
- 12:06So I was doing everything from, you know, selling sponsorships to, um, putting together,
- 12:10you know, ticket sales and marketing packages. Um, I was actually running the game operations.
- 12:16I had the little headset on. I was directing the game. Then okay. So you dove into this. That's,
- 12:20that's how you figured it out. Yeah. That's how you figured out work. You just do everything.
- 12:24That's good. That's good. Yes. Yeah. So I know. And, uh, you know, it was, it was one of those
- 12:30experiences. It was probably the toughest thing in my life at that point just because everything was
- 12:35new and I was drinking from the firehomes. But at the same time, I was right at home because,
- 12:40as an athlete, you'd kind of make a living, finding discomfort and pushing through this comfort
- 12:45just to get to a place where you find more discomfort. So that, that connection was, was, was
- 12:50really, uh, it was really, you know, top of mind for me. So it was, it was, it was, it was difficult.
- 12:55It was challenging and fun at the same time. And that's, that's kind of what it was.
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