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Murakami’s short-term White Sox deal, Willson Contreras traded to Red Sox, Yankees sign Paul Blackburn · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: This is it.
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  Speaker 2: last live show of twenty twenty five. Last one last
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  Speaker 1: It might include movies.
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  Speaker 2: It also will include some moves we're expecting for twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six, being that many moves haven't happened yet, but
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  Speaker 2: look forward to that. You'll have plenty of Shnanigan's today.
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  Speaker 2: We have really good guests. I do want to make
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  Speaker 2: sure we get to the big moves.
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  Speaker 1: So let's hit it.
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  Speaker 2: Charge about charging the mound Todd Father with a little
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  Speaker 2: Wilson Contreras acquisition for the Boston Red Sox. Some fans
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  Speaker 2: might look and say, hey, wait, we have a first
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  Speaker 2: baseman named Tristan Cassis. Now he's coming off another big
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  Speaker 2: injury and the Sea and might start late for him.
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  Speaker 2: They do have a DH position they can utilize for
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  Speaker 2: a number of people. They do have an extra outfielder
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  Speaker 2: still which we can get into as well, but they
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  Speaker 2: can mix and match with that DH spot. But let's
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  Speaker 2: focus on what happened here. Wilson Contreras has put a
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  Speaker 2: very good numbers Tod Father and in his first year
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  Speaker 2: at first base it looked pretty good defensively. The Red
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  Speaker 2: Sox send Hunter Dobbins and name people know from his
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  Speaker 2: rookie season, and he's the prize of the package plus
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  Speaker 2: two other prospects four mister Contreras's services. Contreras also has,
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  Speaker 2: let's see, forty one point five million bucks left in
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  Speaker 2: his deal and the Red Sox are going to get
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  Speaker 2: eight million of that coverage. So they're paying thirty six
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  Speaker 2: and a half million over the next two seasons.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty six and a half plus a buyout on a
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  Speaker 2: club option for twenty twenty eight, So the Red Sox
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  Speaker 2: are paying all but forty one and a half million
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  Speaker 2: dollars of that deal. There's a no trade cause for Contreras.
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  Speaker 2: He waived it in order to go to Boston. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think of this move for the Red Sox,
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  Speaker 2: tod Father doesn't cost him a ton of money.
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  Speaker 1: See you figure they still have some room left.
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  Speaker 3: Alex Bragman, I couldn't hear you. You do say Alex pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: I mean other times you're interested, but I'm just saying, like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you can get pregnant before the Blue Jays or
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  Speaker 2: Diamondbacks or whoever else for sure.
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  Speaker 4: And I heard he's narrowed down to a couple of
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  Speaker 4: teams too, as we get into that. But Wilson catres
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  Speaker 4: you talked about him a lot, Scott, and I remember,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we had that conversation about man, he'd be
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  Speaker 4: a good fit on this team or that team, and
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking, okay, but this one seems this one
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  Speaker 4: seems right. You know, the Red Sox seemed like what
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  Speaker 4: were they doing this offseason? Were they gonna try and
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  Speaker 4: get and how would they decipher who they need?
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  Speaker 3: You know they need other.
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  Speaker 4: Things, but you know, the solidify a guy like Wilson
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  Speaker 4: Contreras who's been playing for a while, a veteran player,
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  Speaker 4: a guy switched positions. The first base not the biggest target,
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  Speaker 4: but he's played well there. So I know Cratzy can
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  Speaker 4: attest to this. If you're a catcher, you can most
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  Speaker 4: likely play any infield position. You might not be the
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  Speaker 4: quickest at it, you might not get to every ball,
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  Speaker 4: but you could field every single ball that comes to you.
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  Speaker 4: You'll knock it down one way or another and make
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  Speaker 4: the play. But again, this is a good spot for
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  Speaker 4: the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 3: I like this move. They got rid of a couple guys, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so be it. But to get a guy that.
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  Speaker 4: Is well known, who's been playing for a while and
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  Speaker 4: that can play and is gonna love hitting with that
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  Speaker 4: green monster and left field, good start there for the
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  Speaker 4: Red Sox.
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  Speaker 5: God I caught. There's no chance I'm going to play
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  Speaker 5: any other position. Besides you said any for any other
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  Speaker 5: infield position. That's why we get all of our ground
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  Speaker 5: balls out during VP. Yes, nobody sees the times you
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  Speaker 5: make airs. Nobody sees the below average footwork. The reason
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  Speaker 5: I think it really worked for Wilson is because he
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  Speaker 5: is super athletic behind a dish. He was always he
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  Speaker 5: always moved around really well. I think some of the
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  Speaker 5: things that lacked for him behind the dish were the
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  Speaker 5: things that are valued behind a dish. But his athleticism
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  Speaker 5: was never in question. He wanted to throw everywhere. He
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  Speaker 5: had a good arm. His receiving was below average, his
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  Speaker 5: game calling was suspect at times. But he's really made
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  Speaker 5: himself into a first baseman. And I'll credit whoever writer
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  Speaker 5: wants to credit, whoever broke this, but Scotti Broun is
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  Speaker 5: the first one to break it that he's going to Boston.
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  Speaker 5: So it's a great fit. Like and it's another move
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  Speaker 5: by Breslo that says and it's not just Breslo, but
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  Speaker 5: we're talking about the Red Sox right now, that says, yes,
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  Speaker 5: the amount of money per year is higher. You probably
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  Speaker 5: could have gotten like a Ryan O'Hearn, you probably could
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  Speaker 5: have gotten I'm trying to think another first basement, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like a one year deal, but that's essentially just getting
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  Speaker 5: Wilson contreres On a two year deal and compared to
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  Speaker 5: his ops plus combined, comparing it to Pete Alonso their
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  Speaker 5: neck and neck, and you're paying Pete Alonzo for five years.
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  Speaker 5: So I think that's the part that Craig Reslo is
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  Speaker 5: really looking at it, like we like this, we're able
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  Speaker 5: to make the move. And so hein Bloom strikes again.
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  Speaker 5: Him's like I build up this entire minor league system.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna take it all back from the Red
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  Speaker 5: Sox with the Gray trade, with the Contreras trade. Possibly
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  Speaker 5: if the Red Sox don't get Bregman, could be a
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  Speaker 5: Nolan Aernado trade could be revisited. So Hime's just like,
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  Speaker 5: I build all these guys, I'm pillaging this entire minor
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  Speaker 5: league system.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good way to look at it.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. I mean Saint Louis is in a rebuild
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  Speaker 1: right now. This is real.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't know if it was going to be happening.
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  Speaker 2: Not this offseason, but a year ago. Remember Krat's a
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  Speaker 2: year ago and top five year ago. We were like,
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  Speaker 2: are they gonna trade Tonny Gray? Well, no, he didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to go. They're gonna trade Wilson Contreres will know
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't giving them permission and he had a no
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  Speaker 2: trade class. They wanted to trade Nolan Aernado and they
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  Speaker 2: couldn't figure that out based on the no trade power
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  Speaker 2: that he had.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're actually making their moves, and I think this
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  Speaker 2: is actually good news for Saint Louis. Todd father. If
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  Speaker 2: they had done this last year. It's not just under
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  Speaker 2: John Mazzelac. Hein Bloom was working there, so he has
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  Speaker 2: some say. But now this is fully his onus, right,
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  Speaker 2: this is his responsibility. Hey, I'm making these deals. Let's
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  Speaker 2: see who pans out from this. We're not going to
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  Speaker 2: be able to look back and go, oh, those were
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  Speaker 2: still John Mzzaylac trades like. No, the veterans that they're
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  Speaker 2: able to deal right now are returning guys that hopefully
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  Speaker 2: will be part of the next Cardinals playoff team and
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  Speaker 2: they'll go through one or two years of paying.
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  Speaker 1: To get there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you see these moves going on, like
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  Speaker 4: you brought up a name like Nolan Arnatto, like okay, wow, okay,
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  Speaker 4: guys are moving left and right.
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  Speaker 3: Does he want to be part of rebuild? I would
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  Speaker 3: say no.
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  Speaker 4: I would say there's there's opportunities now for him to
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  Speaker 4: be like, hey, listen, you know, I know I have
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  Speaker 4: places that I don't want to go. I have this,
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  Speaker 4: you know, with the clauses and everything else. But if
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  Speaker 4: there's an opportunity for him to go elsewhere, I think
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  Speaker 4: he's he's gonna take that opportunity and really think about
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  Speaker 4: what he wants to do. You know, he's getting later
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  Speaker 4: in his career, and you want a championship. And I
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  Speaker 4: think that that's the biggest thing. I think that's the
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  Speaker 4: next thing that will most likely go if there's an
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  Speaker 4: opportunity for him. And I think if the fit is there,
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  Speaker 4: even if it's not there, it might be an opportunity
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  Speaker 4: where all right, you know, I'm gonna be spinning my
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  Speaker 4: wheels here instead of fighting to get to a championship
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  Speaker 4: or at least in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: Something I always was impressed with he's even as a
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  Speaker 5: young player, Wilson Contraras is his ability to hit to
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  Speaker 5: the field, hit too.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 5: He's never going to be like this elite level hitter.
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  Speaker 5: He's never going to be a guy who wins a
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  Speaker 5: batting title. But he's okay getting his hits to right
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  Speaker 5: field when he needs him in situations where hey, you're
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  Speaker 5: giving me a large you know, a large gap between
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  Speaker 5: first and second, or he's okay, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 5: take his shots. I'm very intrigued to see how many
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  Speaker 5: doubles Wilson Contrere's hits off the Green Monster because he's
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  Speaker 5: not a all launch angle kind of guy. He's a
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  Speaker 5: very good at spraying the ball all over the park,
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  Speaker 5: but he's good at doing it on different pitches. So
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  Speaker 5: I'll be interested to see. Like pulling the ball is
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  Speaker 5: not a people you know, kind of get on East
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  Speaker 5: Op parades because he pulls the ball all the time. Well,
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  Speaker 5: it's a superpower if you can pull the ball correctly,
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  Speaker 5: and you can pull it correctly in Boston, now all
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  Speaker 5: of a sudden, you're just clicking everything out front. You're
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  Speaker 5: able to slow down on breaking balls. Pull him out front,
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  Speaker 5: and I think he has the ability. He's that level
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  Speaker 5: of a hitter that he can make adjustments when they're
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  Speaker 5: in Fenway, when they're starting to pitch him differently, and
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  Speaker 5: he just takes his hits to write. And most likely
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  Speaker 5: if they I think they'll get Bregman back. He's not
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  Speaker 5: going to be the focal point in this lineup, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 5: If he is the focal point, I'm a little I'm
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  Speaker 5: a little leery, I'm a little weary for this lineup
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  Speaker 5: how it's constructed. But adding this right hand to Batt
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  Speaker 5: and Wilson, Contreras and Bragman vaults them right up there
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  Speaker 5: with the Jays in the American League East.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one twenty three ops plus one hundred
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  Speaker 2: league average this past season. He's entering his age thirty
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  Speaker 2: four seasons, so it'll be thirty four and thirty five
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  Speaker 2: for the two years. But even some of the other
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  Speaker 2: indicators that the front offices love, the quality of contact
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  Speaker 2: indicators and the perperal numbers there really strong bat speed
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  Speaker 2: which we have nowadays Todd Father, It doesn't matter if
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  Speaker 2: a player's paying attention to it or not. The front
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  Speaker 2: offices are, and he had great bat speed numbers, so
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: some of those numbers look good and tell you okay,
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  Speaker 2: he should still age nicely into his mid thirties for
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  Speaker 2: the next couple seasons. I think this is huge for Boston.
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  Speaker 2: Wilson Contreres definitely can piss people off off on the field.
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  Speaker 2: He makes for good entertainment for us sometimes right, he
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  Speaker 2: gets into it with ups, he gets into it with
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  Speaker 2: other teams.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. Can he hit? Can he play first base? Cool?
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  Speaker 1: Sign me up? And is he playing every day? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: And so for Boston Cassis maybe gets traded. If not,
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  Speaker 2: he can be part time first base and DH, you
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  Speaker 2: can't wait for a guy. It's been a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't been healthy.
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  Speaker 2: And if I'm Boston in my winning windows, now sign
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  Speaker 2: me up for Wilson Contreras.
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  Speaker 3: You said it best. It's time to win now.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's the problem, and that's the opportunity
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  Speaker 4: that they're having. They've been They got a couple good
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  Speaker 4: pitchers last year, as we saw, they made the playoffs,
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  Speaker 4: just couldn't get over the hump against the Yankees. This
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  Speaker 4: is another piece of the puzzle for the Red Sox
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  Speaker 4: to climb and get over that hump.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I like it. Opportunity came. They found a
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  Speaker 3: way to get a guy over there.
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  Speaker 4: And if I'm Castias right now, I'm like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 4: I gotta look myself in the mirror and I got
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  Speaker 4: to step up. I know your injury. I know there's
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: a guy coming in here taking your spot. Not saying
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  Speaker 4: you can't come back and be a good lethal hitter.
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  Speaker 4: You got to come up with what you believe in
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  Speaker 4: and look yourself in the mirror and find a way.
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  Speaker 3: But for the Red Sox, solid, solid job.
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  Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna say this and I'll probably get
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  Speaker 5: roasted if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Tristan Cossas
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  Speaker 5: has one more option coming off of a coming off
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  Speaker 5: of an injury year, where I mean it's a significant
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  Speaker 5: injury that he's recovering from. Get himself back on his feet,
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  Speaker 5: get his legs back under him, and maybe adjust some
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: of the things his like. His patient approach is great
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  Speaker 5: as long as he's only doing damage on pitches in
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  Speaker 5: the zone and when you're not swinging at pitches on
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: the perimeter of the zone, that's a good thing. But
• 11:51
  Speaker 5: you can't miss the pitches that are middle middle, and
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  Speaker 5: that's you know, maybe something that he can It's tough
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  Speaker 5: to work on triple A because he kind of dominated
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  Speaker 5: her play before, but that option. Don't don't if I'm
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  Speaker 5: a Red Sox fan, don't don't anticipate what can Tristan
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  Speaker 5: costs get us to me. I think that that option
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  Speaker 5: if he has it, which I'm pretty sure he does.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have my updated option list here, but that
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  Speaker 5: is a value. Because now Yoshida goes down, they have
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  Speaker 5: you know, a rolling DH he starts raking, his legs
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  Speaker 5: are under him. Maybe they can bring him up and
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  Speaker 5: still use him because Wilson wants to play every day
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  Speaker 5: at first base.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bob Nightingale tweeted over the weekend. The Red
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  Speaker 2: Sox are now expected to end trade talks with the
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  Speaker 2: Diamondbacks for second baseman. Kit tell Marte, Okay, I mean
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  Speaker 2: to me that means you're very much banking on someone
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  Speaker 2: like Alex Bragman joining the fold.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to get both right.
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  Speaker 2: They are going to have Trevor Story and Marcella Meyer
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  Speaker 2: take up two of the infield spots, so now they
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  Speaker 2: have contreras for an other and then it's Bragman or
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  Speaker 2: you could pick up a second baseman and Ad Meyer
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  Speaker 2: play third.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's where Sox fans are still like, wait, we can
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  Speaker 2: we can find room for del Marte if we can't
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  Speaker 2: sign Alex Bragman, or we can find room for Boba
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  Speaker 2: Schett if we can't sign Alex Bragman.
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  Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind.
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  Speaker 2: Also, on the return package for the Cardinals, I think
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  Speaker 2: some credits should go to the Red Sox organization for
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  Speaker 2: developing pictures that they're turning into assets. You saw the Scrats,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to butcher names. But Yoker Fajardo. He
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  Speaker 2: is nineteen years old and he signed for four hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars out of Venezuela by the White Sox in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the Red Sox traded him for camp booz.
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  Speaker 2: Boozer was designated for assignment, so they basically traded him
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  Speaker 2: for someone that cost him almost nothing. White Sox had
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  Speaker 2: to eat the money, so they got like a free
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  Speaker 2: prospect that they included this deal. Next up Blake aida
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  Speaker 2: sixth round pick out of Kennesaw State in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: For nowadays, six round pick in the major league draft
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  Speaker 2: even more than a crapshoot. Right to get a prospect
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  Speaker 2: that you're either able to develop into a valuable big
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  Speaker 2: leaguer or that you're able to flip into trade.
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  Speaker 1: Is a massive success. So they have the success there.
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  Speaker 2: And then Dobbins, like you mentioned, is actually from the
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  Speaker 2: heinm bloom era twenty twenty one, he was an eighth
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  Speaker 2: round selection. So the Red Sox are making really valuable
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  Speaker 2: trade assets out of spots that you usually don't find
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  Speaker 2: them in.
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  Speaker 5: That's huge When people complain like, oh, you know, we
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: never get to pick at the top of the draft,
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  Speaker 5: like the Dodgers never get to pick it the top
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  Speaker 5: of the draft. Your minor league system creates so much value.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: Your big league team is boosted by your minor league system.
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  Speaker 5: I remember when I worked for the Red Sox, they
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  Speaker 5: gave us a bonus. When the Red Sox made made it,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: I forget where they ended up making it too. They
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  Speaker 5: won the wildcard game against the Yankees. It was twenty one,
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  Speaker 5: but they truly believed in that time that anybody that
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: was working in the minor league system was helping the
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  Speaker 5: big league team. I had nothing to do with the
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: big league team. I never went to games. I never
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  Speaker 5: went to anything that year. But the way the Heim Bloom,
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  Speaker 5: the way that BA Brian Abraham was running the minor
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  Speaker 5: league system was a just an extension of the big
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  Speaker 5: leagues the minor leagues or extension of the big leagues.
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  Speaker 5: People were like, well, you know you made Marcella Meyer,
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  Speaker 5: you made Anthony, you know all those guys. No, you
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  Speaker 5: helped those guys get better, to reach the potential to
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  Speaker 5: help the big league team. And if they're not quite there,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: you turn them into a Wilson Contraras, you turn him
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: into a Sonny Gray. And that's how good teams that
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: want to win create value in the minor leagues. And
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: you see some teams that don't do it money or
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  Speaker 5: no money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've the Cardinals on the other end of this,
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  Speaker 2: filling their first base spot pretty easily. Barlaston gets full
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  Speaker 2: time over at first base. You get to give him
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  Speaker 2: a full season of run and see what it looks like.
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  Speaker 2: And just to finish on the Cardinals too, Todd Father,
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  Speaker 2: I think they might have trouble trading Nolan Aronado without
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  Speaker 2: eating up a good chunk of the money.
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  Speaker 1: First, you look.
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  Speaker 2: At what he's valued at, because that's what teams will do.
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  Speaker 2: What does he get on the free agent market right now?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe a year?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: And does he get the league minimum crats or is
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: it like two million bucks?
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Ops?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not more than it's not more than
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: five based off you get number decline in projections. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: on a big league deal, big league deal, what's the
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: number two?
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  Speaker 1: Two million bucks? Now?
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  Speaker 5: I think I think he'll I think he would. I
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: don't think he'd signed for less than four million. I
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: could be completely wrong based on how much he's made,
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: but you know he's in. He's in that realm because
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: his defense has declined some. His defense last year still
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: had values. Offense declined. To me, he's in either the
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: four to five million dollars big league deal range, or
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: like Todd experience at the end of his career, the
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: old non roster invite.
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  Speaker 3: T Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Rizzo felt that way and then he just didn't sign.
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  Speaker 2: Ronatto doesn't have to deal with that because he's under
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: a contract. My point is it's difficult to trade someone
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: like that when the industry looks at you that way.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: So it could just be a buyout, or it could
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: be a deal where a team just picks up a
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: couple million bucks and they pay off the rest. Those
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: deals are pretty unconventional, right. Usually at that point, if
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: it's that little money that's being picked up on a
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: large deal remaining, they just cut the player.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. We'll see what happens.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: They're going to try to trade him, but I don't
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: know how much success they're going to have trading him
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: to a first division team and a spot that he
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: wants to go to.
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  Speaker 1: You just throwing that out there, So, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta get going. One more on the Red Sox.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: You guys remember a guy named Christian Campbell. He started
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: the season last year in the big leagues with the
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: Red Sox. Signed for sixty million dollars. Guys. This is
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: why it's okay if somebody takes a sixty million dollars
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: big league deal when they first get called up. A
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: lot of a lot of people want to roast players
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: for doing that. You're leaving money on the table. Some
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: guys need a little bit more time to round out
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: and become the players that they're gonna be. It's okay
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: if you take sixty million dollars to buy up all
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: your arbitration years in one or two of your free
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: agent years, like they're already looking in the next year.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: It hasn't even been a full calendar year yet since
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: he got that contract and they're looking for somebody to
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: play his position. That's gonna be locked up for more
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: than one year. Doesn't mean his career is over. I'm
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: just saying it's okay to take your money. When they
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: give you your money, Todd.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Your money, it's yours.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was kind of a late bloomer, as it
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: is Christian Campbell and then he was a fourth round
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  Speaker 2: pick out of Georgia. Tech developed quickly, but you can
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: develop really quickly and then hit a roadblock and.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Takes some time.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it was it was all moving so fast until
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: it wasn't for him, and Kratz is right. I mean,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: he might turn into a nice player, but even if
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: he doesn't, this is why you can't criticize a guy
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: for taking the bag, even if it's a position player. Yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: he is set for life at eight years, sixty million dollars,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: and he might still be a very valuable player for
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the Red Sox. But they're not going to sit around
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: and wait for it to happen either. It'll be a
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: nice addition, bonus, whatever you want to call it, if
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: he can really emerge this coming season and be a
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: factor for a team. Injuries happen all the time. I'm
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: sure if he's good, they'll figure it out. Red Sox
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: are trying to build depth. Munataka Mari Kami was saying
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that for about a month and change while he was
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: up for grabs. I pay a little posting fee. Well,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: it's a small posting fee for the Chicago White Sox
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  Speaker 2: two years, thirty four million dollars. Murakami's going to be
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: their first basement. He's a home run champ over in Japan.
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  Speaker 2: Todd Father some publications had him making well over one
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. Tim Britton does the contract projections for
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the athletic and he's really good at it. I mean,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: there are some that he has gotten on the mark
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: this year, the exact mark.
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  Speaker 1: This one.
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  Speaker 2: He had him pegged at one hundred fifty eight million
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: dollars over eight years.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Murakami ends up with two over thirty four.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: It sounded like he had longer term offers but for
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: much less average annual value. And he's twenty five years old,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: so he's going cool two years seventeen a year. Let
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: me go prove it and then I can hit the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: free agent market still at a very young twenty seven
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: years old. But initially it was looked at at oh
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: eight one point fifty eight something like that because he's
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: so damn young. The problem was in the free agent market.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Team said too much swing and miss. We have questions
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: about your defense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I it's so funny when he saw the White
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Sox getting like what the heck of a White Sox
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: doing right now? But yeah, I mean listen, I like
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: that he wants to go and prove himself. I like
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: that he's only doing a two year deal. It's a
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: substantial amount of money. But again, yet way off on
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: what a lot of people thought he was gonna make Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, go ahead, prove yourself. Man, go out there.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: He looks happy, he's excited. The guy's got some absolute
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: tremendous pop uh crats. He's talked about it before. This
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: guy can hit one to the moon and back. People
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: worry about the swinging mess. I mean, everybody's worried about
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: the swing and miss. Everybody swings and missus, you know
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day. So let's see how
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: his defense is. Let's see if he comes to America
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: here and just absolutely hitting nukes like he always does.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I'm excited to see this guy play. Good pickup by
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: the White Sox.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's worried about swinging miss and yet nobody's
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: doing anything about it like this is this is a
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  Speaker 5: prime I'm not saying he should have gotten one hundred
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: plus million dollars, but this is a prime case of
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: the industry being okay with demeaning the things that the
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: industry's be okay with in general. They're okay with guys
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: coming up that strike out a ton. They're not sitting
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: there going man. They put together the Rangers, they put
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: together good at bats. No they struck out. They swung
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: a miss way too much. That's why they weren't good,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: and so it was a nice narrative for them to
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: kind of squash a little bit of this guy's value.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: So I love that he only got a two year deal.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: I love that the two year deal is a nice
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: yearly amount because I went back and I looked at
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Seya Suzuki's contract, and I've played against both of these guys,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: and I was so impressed with Saya. Say is that
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: bats over in Japan when we played against them were
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: very impressive. He got fifteen a year. He got fifteen
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: a year that gave him. I'm sorry, no, I did
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: my math wrong. He got seventeen a year, and this
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: is exactly what Morikami Murakami gets. So I love the
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: annual value here. And until somebody comes over directly from
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Japan as a hitter and is an immediate success, I
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: have a hard time seeing that one hundred million dollar
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: threshold getting broken right out of the gate. Seya Suzuki
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: was very, very disciplined coming over. He was a walk
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: one walk to one strikeout kind of guy. He had power,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: not the elite power that you've seen and it took
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Saya a little bit to make that adjustment. I thought
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: he should have been an All Star last year. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: know he really created after the All Star break, but
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: he's developed into a very, very good big league hitter
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: and it's taken a little bit of time. So maybe
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Morikami sees that and says, I have more power than
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: this guy. And let's just say his strikeout rates stays
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: the same. The biggest thing is going to be for
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: the White Sox is how does he fit into this
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: lineup to give them production and give them slug that
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: they have that they've been missing, because if he's just
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: he actually had better numbers against lefties, because if he
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: can't hit a fastball, maybe a leftiest slower fastball is
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: easier for him. I'm not sure, but it will definitely
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: be interesting. But it'll be a nice environment for him
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: to not feel the pressure of the entire world on
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: his shoulders to try to do well. But he's also
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: still in a big city. Don't forget Chicago, the White Sox.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: It's still a big city.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And he's been just on a tear out in Japan
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: up until this past season.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers were still good.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: While he was playing, but he actually missed a good
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: chunk of the year hurt.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: He's young. It's not something chronic.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But I mean, everything we're talking about is just another
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: thing that a team gets concerned about and that could
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: be used in contract negotiations. He played fifty six games
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: this past season elbow surgery, oblique injury, set back, miss.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: A lot of time.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: It's also had. He also had a thousand ops. He
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: also had a better.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Fifty games than a COVID amount of season. Hey, I'm
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: not he's been.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Great for years before that, but.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: All he could play. Yeah, hit better against lefties and
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: right He's like, there's so many times that I can like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: you can say, oh, you know, he doesn't hit the
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: he doesn't hit ninety three plus well enough to be
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: to do well in the big leagues. Okay, well, then
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: you don't want him, Like you can create so many
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: narratives to say, why you don't want to sign Todd Frazier,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Why you don't want to sign Munataka much munich Mi're comedy,
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: But that's like, to me, then you just don't want them.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: So good for the White Sox, a team that nobody's
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: really linked to in the sense of like, oh, you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: they're gonna get Frambervodez, they're gonna get Good for them
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: for saying I get what his shortcomings are. Everybody's got shortcomings.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Everybody has. Trey Turner won the batting title, they're like, oh,
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: you didn't hit for enough power. You know, there's so
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: many there's so many things that you can point to
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: to squash salaries. Good for the White Sox for getting
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: this one done.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Also, he's twenty five, his baby.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: How much development happens now, that's part of it. The
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: point that I like, right, I'm just providing both sides
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: of context here, Kratz. I'm not necessarily going against you.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I honestly have a hard time figuring out what he's
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: going to look like. I know he's gonna hit dingers,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna hit dingers on some mistake pitches. We'll
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: see how the league figures out holes and how he adjusts,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: just like most young hitters have to do. But Ken
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Rosenthal pointed out in an article maybe two weeks ago
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that the twenty five percent strikeout rate is actually lower
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: than show Heyo Tani's twenty seven percent strikeout mark, but
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: he was younger Otani. It was ages eight into twenty
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: two seasons and NPB, but and Sey Asuzuki was at
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: sixteen percent in MPB before he signed with the Cups.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: The point is, it's not like this guy is such an.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Outlier with strikeouts. Right.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: It's nice to see a guy like Akamoto who's gonna
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: come over here and sign Todd Father with really nice
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: contact numbers. But it's not like this guy can't overcome
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: swing and miss, even if it's a part of his game.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: It's not like he's not going to be a successful player.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: He might be a high strikeout guy, he might be
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: a twenty five percent plus thirty percent.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Even strikeout guy in the big leagues.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: But if it's fifty Dingers, I think many teams would
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: take that. It's just I think the problem is it's
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: really hard to gauge. Like the upside is Kyle Schwarber
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and the downside is Joey Kingman, Joey Gallo, stuff like that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's difficult to see until we see him get
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: on the field and get to custom to USA Baseball man,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: it's all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I like it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: For the White Sox, Kratz, we were picking up the
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: White Sox, and I mean we still will because they're
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: operating with a pretty small budget, but this is seventeen
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: million bucks a year, and the White Sox second half
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: offense was good, so that's good. We'll see if they
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: can carry that is Coulson Montgomery gonna bring. Coulson Montgomery
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: has some swing and missing his game, but he might
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: hit thirty five forty homers.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Two He showed his power that really didn't show up
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: a ton in the minor leagues, definitely translated to the
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: big league. So what they're doing up there is good.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: And for me, Murkami, if he's able to not get
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: away from his chase rate, because he doesn't chase very much,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: it's his in zone contact. It's balls that are in
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: the strike zone making contact with it make it sounds,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: so it sounds very elementary and remedial to hey, well, yeah,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: you just got to hit the balls. He has to
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: be ready for the pitch that's middle, middle, and if
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: that means he does chase a little bit more, to me,
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: that's how his power is going to play in the
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: big leagues. Because Todd will let you know if some
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: dude doesn't hit for much power or doesn't you know,
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: doesn't drive the ball on all pitches. You're just going
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: to keep pounding that pitch to the guy. You're gonna
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: nibble the zone with everything else, and then you're just
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: going to keep attacking him the other way. And to me,
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: he's got to catch a few balls out front. The
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: party's out front, get the ball in the middle of
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: the zone and let that power go to work.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were bottom five and runs the White Sox.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: They were bottom five and slugging percentage todd five that
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: you played there, that's not a pitcher's park, So it's time.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: It's time to get the offense cranking. Do you know
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: who their home run leader was this past season? I
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: don't know if you guys mentioned in the pregame meeting,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: but it's, by are the toughest trivia question if you're
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: asking for each team's home run leader for the year,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: This one, to me is the toughest answer out of
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the thirty teams.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: It wasn't Coulson. Did he get to Coulson Getton? No, not,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: no time.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: You'll never I mean, it's it's a guy where you're
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be like, I completely forgot about him as even
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: a factor that did anything, And obviously you're not watching
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of White Sox games compared to everything else.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Colson Montgomery, by the way, finished with twenty one. He
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: was one shy of the twenty two home runs hit
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: by Lane Michael Taylor Lane in Sosa.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Twenty two home runs. Yeah, that wasn't happening.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: But now you've got Colson Montgomery, Kyle Teel, Edgar Carrow,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Miguel Vargas more Kami's in there, chase my draft Braidon
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Montgomery from the Crochet White Sox Red Sox trade last
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: year coming soon. You're starting to build a little bit
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: of a core that has a chance to keep you
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: in some games. At corner time, let's talk about the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: state of the Yankees this offseason. In a team that
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: scored a ton of runs, made the playoffs, has a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: lot of promising pitching coming up this season, but fans
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: expect more. They want action, and they've been pretty quiet
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: so far on that front. Fans just saw Yankees sign
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and then they see Paul Blackburn, and it's nothing against
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Paul Todd father, but it's not the big fish that
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: fans are looking for. One year deal, two million bucks,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: right they've signed to med Rosario Ryan Yarborough. Now here's
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Blackburn for some pitching depth, who's dealt with a fair
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: share of injuries, but maybe could be either a swingman
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: or a back end depth guy.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: So there's that.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But I do want to go a bigger picture here.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Where do you think fans are at right now with
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: this team and what they're expecting. We just spoke to
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Robert Murray, who still linked Cody Bellinger to the team,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: and they're probably battling over what that price will look like.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: But you know how it is, even if the team
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: had no holes, they've got to make a splash. It's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: just the way that the fan base demands things. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: in fairness to the fan base, they have one championship
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: since two thousand and nine, and it was not a
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: perfect run.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: In the playoffs. Just now, they got smacked around by
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that what have you done for me lately?
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Mentality, which we're you know, born and raised over here
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: to you know, pretty much abide by. I think the
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: fans are it's anticipation. I think the word I was used.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: They're you know, a little on edge, a little excitement,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: a little hey, what what's Cashman going to do? Yeah,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: this is it's it's it's a it's a pick up.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Paul Blackburn is not the same guy used to be,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: but finding a way to get a guy in there
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: to you know, help out with the team. Yeah, I
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: think it's that. Wait and see. I think there's plenty
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: of time still left. H you got all of January
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: coming up, and I think, honestly, they are going to.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Make a move to get a big name.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: It's just nobody's really taken down those bigger names besides
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: like a Pete Alonzo like hitting hitting wise, you know,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: it's just holidays come around, everything gets slow and then
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: to pick back up after the new year. In my opinion,
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  Speaker 4: But yes, I think they have some opportunities to get
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  Speaker 4: some guys, and I think they will. They're gonna put
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  Speaker 4: in a good effort to get some you know, an
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  Speaker 4: outfielder of course, and go from there because they need
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  Speaker 4: a couple of pictures. You know, there's two guys Garrett
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Cole Carlos Ordan that aren't gonna be ready in the
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see how that transpires.
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  Speaker 2: Hitting that futures market hard bet MGM futures. Aaron Judge
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  Speaker 2: home run total minus one oh five gets you fifty
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  Speaker 2: one homers or more. If you think he's going under
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  Speaker 2: fifty one homers, it'll cost you a buck.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty to win a hundo. Todd Father, where are you
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  Speaker 1: going over? Over and over and over.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be in the fifties for
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: a long time. Still, I think he's gonna be fifty
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  Speaker 4: four fifty five range.
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  Speaker 3: So I will take that over all day, every day.
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  Speaker 1: Same with you, Kratz.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 4: You see he got hurt and you still got over
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  Speaker 4: fifty do the guy's an animal, though.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not touching it. I'm not touching it just because
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  Speaker 5: I saw other home run I know we're not doing
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  Speaker 5: other home run people right now. But and the guy
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: we just had on today scared Peta Petez at thirty
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  Speaker 5: seven and a half, and I love that number better
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  Speaker 5: if I'm only getting if I'm only getting minus one ten,
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  Speaker 5: I'm taking the over with Pete. I'm not taking it
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  Speaker 5: with Judge just because right now, I don't think that
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: number is going to change right now. Who's protecting him?
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  Speaker 5: And he has done a great job of being able
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  Speaker 5: to become a complete hitter. I'm afraid if they don't
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  Speaker 5: have somebody protecting him, that he's not able to get
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  Speaker 5: to that fifty mark. It's such a great number. It's
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: such a great number. I think he's a fifty guy.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: But can I say I'm taking the over on that. No,
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: Pete's going into a lineup right now that there is
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: some protection, or he's protecting other people, whichever way you
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: want to look at it. And I think his number
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  Speaker 5: is low enough that I'm taking that.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a low number in my mind.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Pete's very durable, and I'm guessing that they
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: also might still be looking at the ballpark, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not Mount Waltimore anymore, it's not what
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: it used to be. But it's kind of in between
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that he's going to crush there also, I mean, Todd Father,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: you know this. It's tough to hit dingers in Queens.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Not as tough as it used to be, right, but
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: it's still tough to hit dingers in that park compared
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to many others. I think that's still a at least
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: top ten pitchers park, if not better. My guess would
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: be it's like in the seven or eight range. I'd
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  Speaker 2: have to look and I don't go completely off stackast
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: factors either, but it use it as a tool. I
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  Speaker 2: would say it's probably in the top ten range right
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  Speaker 2: for pictures.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Baltimore was like that a few years ago
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  Speaker 2: and then they moved the walls again.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I just think, man, new team.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: You know what I always think about, actually, Todd Father
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the home run projections for Juan Soto when he was
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: entering that free agent year with the Yankees, and the
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: number was so freaking low. It was frustratingly low, and
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: you're getting all these wild explanations about how his pop's
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: gonna play in the.
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  Speaker 3: It was trash.
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  Speaker 1: He destroyed the number.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was twenty nine and a half. I'm
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: positive twenty nine and a half. And they were like
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: and it was because they said, oh, well, he hits
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: a lot of balls to left center and that's the
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: biggest part of Yankee Stadium.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, it's just.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Like we talked about with Like I talked about Wilson
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Contreras earlier. There's some guys who are like, I'll hit
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: it over there, or I'll hit it there. There's some
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: guys that can do that, and Juan Soto was definitely
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: one of those. And I think Pete is the only
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: part that he can't hit it out of is Yosemite.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: So I don't you know, wall back, wall forward, whatever.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: I think people will be surprised in Camden Yards, and
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Pete might even be surprised once he gets there. How
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: many balls he's gonna be able to flick over right
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: field because right field can give you a lot. And
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: when Pete's not going well, he tries to go to
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: the opposite field, he tries to take the ball the
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: other way, and then when he's hot, he's taking it everywhere.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Hey, there's no baseball right now. We
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: miss it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Although there's a lot of action going on, there is
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: pro football action. Bet MGM players, you can get an
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: early holiday treat. It's a Pro Football same game parlay
• 37:31
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• 37:35
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• 37:40
  Speaker 2: give that token a merry little activation. Gambling problem or
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: concern call one eight hundred gambler. All right, let's slaps.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: What do you have.
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  Speaker 5: Might be a little just a little like just reminder
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: that the off season's going. Like teams are picking guys up,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: but the Yankees. I think the Yankees do it backwards
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: from other teams. They get the little pieces to fill
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: in and then they go get the star. So I
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: think they're still going to be there. But got to
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: make sure everyone over in Yankee Land is not going
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: to Christmas too early.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Hey, Actually that leads me to my last point here
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: during Slap We have our last live show of the
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: year coming up tomorrow, which is Tuesday, and then we
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: have a lot prepared for you over the days of
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: podcast and YouTube clips that you'll enjoy. Give a much
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: needed rest to everybody that works every day all year round.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: But we will have Ken Rosenthal on our last show
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. Kevin Pilar is hosting with myself
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and with Kratz. One more I'll give you for now.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: On the guest list for tomorrow is a former Yankee
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: who can smash left handed pitching and he's going to
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: be back in the big leagues this coming season. The
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs signed Eyler Austin, and we didn't really go
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: over the signing at the time, So instead we're just
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: bringing the player on to go over his return from
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Japan and how he start out there.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Why are you're throwing your hands up?
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: I've texted him so many times and he's gonna come on.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: And I didn't even know this TJA all the way.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Oh crap, I messed up. Now he's not coming on
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: right now. Now he can't make it. Oops?
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Is Joe Kelly coming on? Instead?
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: We'll bring on the other side of the battle. But
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: we'll try and get Tyler in early January. Hey, it's
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: coming in hot. As I talk sometimes I make stuff up,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: but tomorrow I try not to.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see you tomorrow.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Do you