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- 0:08Hi, good afternoon welcome Miller and Condon on a football
- 0:11slash World Series Friday as we talk sports with you on the Iowa
- 0:16sports radio network Des Moines sports station one O 6.3 KXNO
- 0:21yes, the full classic is here. Football moves on A lot of that
- 0:24conversation coming up on the next two hours.
- 0:27We will start our guests here this morning with Eugene Repay
- 0:31who covers Iowa State for the Des Moines Register.
- 0:34We will preview BYU and and Iowa State, they play at 2:30, Jack
- 0:39Trice Stadium sold out Jack Trice Stadium.
- 0:41We'll talk to Eugene 2:30. Maybe take a look at basketball
- 0:44as well as I know that he will be adjacent to the football
- 0:48stadium and Hilton Coliseum to see Northwestern and Iowa State
- 0:52as they will play an exhibition game on Sunday.
- 0:55So a lot of topics for Eugene when he joins us at 20 minutes
- 0:57after the hour. Then we'll head to Las Vegas,
- 1:00catch up with Mike Palm. He's got a narrow window, so
- 1:02we'll try and cram as much in with Mike Palm as we can in the
- 1:06allotted time. Thanks a lot.
- 1:07Our number 2 Trent Bama, Bob and I will go round college
- 1:11football, some of the marquee games taking place this weekend.
- 1:14Before Tom Keikert joins us, talk about Minnesota and Iowa
- 1:17for the best traveling trophy in all of sports, the Floyd of
- 1:21Rosedale. I will talk to our buddy Tom
- 1:24Keikert from hawkeyereport.com. Part of On Three Media will make
- 1:28our picks in our head to head contest as well as our contest
- 1:31with the afternoon show. Who, by the way, the boys are
- 1:33going to be up in Ames today at the Rally House.
- 1:36Lucas and John broadcasting live their show from 2 until 5.
- 1:40The rally House in Ames, 1 football game down in the NFL
- 1:45this week. It was a clubbing.
- 1:47The Chargers opened up a can. Just took it to Carson Wentz.
- 1:50Who? I mean, I hope for Vikings fans
- 1:52that that's last time you see him.
- 1:55That's just he's just not good and he's I get the offensive
- 1:59line is not good either. The the Vikings have some
- 2:01problems. Trent.
- 2:02This is, I think, pretty safe to say at this point not going to
- 2:05be their. Year, yeah, this is the worst
- 2:06team and the zigzag continues with KOC really Goodyear
- 2:10followed by a disappointing season and it looks like we are
- 2:13trending that direction. You know, historically doesn't
- 2:16feel like we get that for a lot for the Viking.
- 2:18Growing up in Vikings territory like I did surrounded by 90%
- 2:22Vikings fans, most of my family Vikings fans, it felt like
- 2:25anytime that there was higher anticipation or coming off a big
- 2:29year, there be that let down and they're better and that were
- 2:32underdog role in that yes, it feels like they're just for
- 2:37whatever reason, one of those organizations or.
- 2:39They're a Minnesota snake team. Well, they also got that
- 2:41component to which is, which is a different angle to it, but you
- 2:44know, the 98 year, which is still, I mean, beloved even what
- 2:48happened to the NFC Championship game and Gary Anderson and
- 2:51everything that goes along with it.
- 2:53That team was not anticipated to be great.
- 2:55Just Randy Musk thrust onto the scene.
- 2:57Randy Cunningham, What is this? 98 trend I thought that they
- 3:00were going to beat the Denver Broncos.
- 3:01They would have convinced the Broncos were going to represent
- 3:03the AFC. They would have beat the devil.
- 3:05They. Might have.
- 3:05It would have been hell of a game.
- 3:06And that was said. It was Atlanta.
- 3:07And Tim Dwight took one to the house in that football game.
- 3:10And John Elway walked off the field for the final time as the
- 3:13MVP of the Super Bowls. He hit rods.
- 3:15Was that the Rod Smith? No, that was the.
- 3:17Yes, It was the Rod Smith. Long catch, Long touchdown
- 3:19catch. The man of the year.
- 3:21Oh, really? No, not him.
- 3:23Oh, the guy. What the hell?
- 3:25The guy's name? Eugene Robinson.
- 3:27Oh, yes. Yeah.
- 3:28For the Falcons. Yeah.
- 3:29He was busted on. He was so during the day on
- 3:32Saturday. NFL awards.
- 3:34Yep, Man of the year in the NFL. Goes out, picks up a prostitute,
- 3:39gets arrested, spends the night in jail.
- 3:41The NFL man of the year literally hours later, and then
- 3:46he would get out, get out, play the Super Bowl, and Rod Smith
- 3:49beat him over the top. Anyways, fond memories of that
- 3:52when Trent's absolutely Super Bowl 33, if memory serves.
- 3:57So yes, back to the Vikings. They're cooked.
- 4:00I think they are. I think they are.
- 4:02It's time to try all that thing. Yep.
- 4:04I'll let you play JJ McCarthy the rest of the year.
- 4:07If you think he's your guy. More power to you if he shows
- 4:09you better yet. But if not, you know what it's
- 4:14You can't win without a quarterback.
- 4:15You just cannot win. Or seldom can you win without a
- 4:19quarterback. I guess to be fair.
- 4:21But let let's find out what he's got mean.
- 4:23KOC saw something in him, saw something in him, and they
- 4:28drafted him 10th overall. So let him play, yeah?
- 4:31Sink or swim time? Yep.
- 4:32And then you can very quickly move on.
- 4:34I mean, with what you have with KOC, you have a guy that has
- 4:39proven he can win with discarded goods, You can win with some of
- 4:43the worst of the worst at the quarterback position.
- 4:46I mean, you look it through some of the guys that have started in
- 4:48one football games for him. We're not just talking about
- 4:51career backups. We're talking about queer
- 4:53laughing stocks and he turned them into guys at least in a
- 4:56short period. So go out there and get the next
- 4:59veteran, get whoever that veteran quarterback that's
- 5:02looking for a home, go that direction if you want, or go
- 5:04right back to the well with young guy.
- 5:05Regardless, you're gonna find out now about JJ McCarthy.
- 5:08Yeah, it's time. They'll get a little bit extra
- 5:11time, obviously, to get him ready to play.
- 5:13I, I know there's the theories out there that that he isn't
- 5:17hurt, that they're that they're protecting him, but would you
- 5:21really do that at the expense of everybody else on the roster
- 5:24'cause you see, Carson Wentz just cannot play well, Look, I
- 5:27give Wentz credit. He's tough, isn't he?
- 5:29He takes some shots and he keeps coming back for more.
- 5:34I thought Brosman was going to end of the game at the end of
- 5:36the first half. So did I when he couldn't move
- 5:38his left elbow. I know he throws with his right
- 5:40arm, but he you saw the pain if you watched the game last night.
- 5:44I was surprised he didn't play. You know what you said, the
- 5:48protecting of an injury, that alone because, yeah, it's not
- 5:50fair to the rest of the team. I don't think it's that.
- 5:53It's not 100% that. I think it's there's.
- 5:56Some of that. There's absolutely some of that
- 5:58that that little both, but it's also I don't think this guy's
- 6:02ready. We think that Carson Wentz gave
- 6:04us a better shot to win. And I think it's it's both of
- 6:07those things together. There is concerns about JJ
- 6:11McCarthy and his ability to process.
- 6:13He's had one good quarter. His ability to make raids go
- 6:16through progressions. It's not arm talent.
- 6:18No, he's got that. Anybody that is draft in the
- 6:20first round has arm talent. It's not.
- 6:22There's so much more to the quarterback, but.
- 6:24He wasn't asked to throw it a ton at Michigan.
- 6:26And the few times he did, though, you could see, I mean,
- 6:28that throw he made in the left sideline in that I'm a Michigan
- 6:32playoff can make all the throws. That thing is, I mean, that's
- 6:35that makes your first route right there.
- 6:36Right, but the. Windows are a lot narrower on
- 6:38Sundays opposed to Saturday. And when you can't hit those
- 6:41windows, what is it in the NFL you got to hit?
- 6:45We got to hit the door knob. Yeah.
- 6:46At minimum, we got to hit the door knob.
- 6:48And if you can't do that, you're not going to play.
- 6:50And then the great ones can, you know, hit the middle of the door
- 6:53knob and the, and the elite ones can put it in the keyhole.
- 6:56You know, those are the, those are the Tom Brady's The World
- 6:59that can do that. Well, I love listening to Tom
- 7:01Brady talk quarterback play, do you?
- 7:02I really do. I really not.
- 7:04I don't like him calling a game, but when he's sitting with
- 7:07whomever, right, just the how he processes a game and what made
- 7:12him tick. And there's a reason why he was
- 7:15arguably the best to ever do it right.
- 7:16He certainly got the hardware to back that up.
- 7:18I miss Greg Olson. Well, yeah, in the booth.
- 7:21Yeah, I do too. I mean, I agree with you 100%.
- 7:24But again, do they fish because they're paying him a lot of
- 7:28money? It's the one thing that Tom
- 7:29Brady has failed at, maybe in his whole life now, maybe his
- 7:31marriage. There's another one there's.
- 7:33Another one. Can breed out Drew Henson.
- 7:36There's another He's had a. Few.
- 7:37He's had a few, but very few, very few good stuff.
- 7:42World Series this weekend. The Fall Classic is upon.
- 7:45Us, I don't care. Isn't that strange?
- 7:47Is it because it's the Dodgers are because it's the Jays?
- 7:50It's more the Dodgers. The Dodgers, you just.
- 7:53Expect that this is going to be a short Series A not going to be
- 7:57much intrigue I. Well, you watching?
- 8:03Well, you'll be working in football.
- 8:05Where are you? Tonight, by the way.
- 8:06I'm going to be out at Waukee. Waukee, purple original Waukee,
- 8:09the Warriors playing host to Waterloo W top two players in
- 8:12the state going up. So Carson Nielsen from Waterloo
- 8:15W, who is committed to Iowa at Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio State,
- 8:20he's going to be a Hawkeye next season.
- 8:22It's a win it in scenario for both teams.
- 8:24Whoever wins the game will be in the playoffs.
- 8:27The loser, if it's Waukee, they're out.
- 8:29If Waterloo W loses, they still might have a path to a sneak in
- 8:32there with the RPI rankings and how they play out, but win and
- 8:36in scenario for both teams. Pretty good spots.
- 8:38So so let me stop you just real quick.
- 8:40And I know that Anchorage Centenary has nothing to do with
- 8:42this conversation, but possess my guy.
- 8:44Are they in? They're in right now.
- 8:47So are they a winning in or if they if they get beat tonight,
- 8:51do they have a path? Probably not I I saw this
- 8:55website by our buddy now. Get back to baseball for you
- 8:58baseball fan I do want to talk about.
- 8:59More Andy Pollack had a guy on his podcast that was put
- 9:04together has this site. I want to send it around to the
- 9:06high school football fans. It's an RPI machine.
- 9:09So you plug in the results of the week and it spits out then
- 9:12what the RP is will be it's scrank sports, scrank, SCRANK,
- 9:18scranksports.com and you can play around with all the
- 9:22results. This just is in central Iowa.
- 9:25This is. Everyone, this is for everyone.
- 9:26Yeah, Plug it in and then it spits out what it's going to be.
- 9:29What it spits out if all the favorites win quote UN quote are
- 9:33going into the game tonight is Ankeny Centennial.
- 9:36This is free, Trent. Yeah Yep is the 15 seed.
- 9:39They would play Walkie Northwest in the first round.
- 9:41Waterloo W even with the loss would still be in but as a 16
- 9:45seed that means they get Dowling in the first round.
- 9:47Walkie with the win would be the 14 seed against Johnston, IA.
- 9:51City Liberty would be your four seed and it's crazy because
- 9:54Sioux City E right now looks really good, like top four in a
- 9:57potential for Sioux City E to host two playoff games because
- 10:01of who they play and the way the other games and the other way
- 10:04the RPI and the schedule spits out.
- 10:06They would actually even with a win all to a seven seed.
- 10:09Yeah, Sioux City E has not. In fact, a Sioux City public
- 10:14school has not played in the Unidome since 1984.
- 10:19That's crazy. That was when Sioux City E won
- 10:22the big school class 1984. So what was it back in the day?
- 10:25Was it 4A back in the day? Do you?
- 10:27Know it was 4A and they beat Waterloo East. 80.
- 10:32Four in the championship game they beat Waterloo EI think it
- 10:35was 2421. I was doing some research
- 10:37earlier in the week. They be Waterloo E led by the
- 10:41quarterback for the Trojans of Waterloo E, Courtney Messingham.
- 10:44How about was the quarterback for that team?
- 10:47I I figured you like that. No, that's awesome.
- 10:48Yes. Good stuff.
- 10:51So you do. Absolutely getting ready for
- 10:53playoff time and playoffs start tonight for two way down to 8.
- 10:57Player So what's your plan slash the Bulls plan for the playoffs?
- 11:02We will have you covered all the way through the state
- 11:04championship games, so it'll start next week.
- 11:07We'll find hopefully potentially the two games with locals.
- 11:10Don't obviously have it this week because they're just not a
- 11:12whole lot of good games. I think this is the best one on
- 11:14the board. We'll try to find a game next
- 11:16week with both locals. Same thing in the quarterfinals
- 11:18and we got you covered for the five both semifinals as long as
- 11:21there's. Local you will be at both.
- 11:23You'll do both of. Them done that what do they
- 11:25start 4? No, they don't.
- 11:26Do that, it's like 4. And seven.
- 11:27Yeah, yeah. Yeah, done that now.
- 11:29Probably the last, I don't know, four or five years because we've
- 11:31had since they went away from the East West divide, we've had
- 11:35both team, two teams involved in at least each semi final of all
- 11:39of those years. So be there for both of those
- 11:41games and then the championship the Friday before Thanksgiving.
- 11:44In a way, we wild. This just goes so fast.
- 11:47Really truly does good stuff. Well, back to the World Series
- 11:50for a couple of minutes. I'm a Jays fan, just want to put
- 11:53that out there. I I love the confidence this
- 11:56team kind of has now. They might be walking into a
- 11:59slaughter. They very well may be.
- 12:02And when you look at that Dodgers lineup and you look at
- 12:05that Dodgers talent and you look at that Dodgers pitching staff,
- 12:08it's like, holy mackerel, you guys sure you want to be talking
- 12:11like this, but we'll see where it goes.
- 12:14I just hope it's competitive. So if you weren't doing high
- 12:17school football tonight, you tell me you wouldn't watch a
- 12:19pitch. I'd have it.
- 12:21I'll have it on up in the booth. That'll get the last week it was
- 12:24Nebraska, Minnesota got the TV or the the iPad?
- 12:27The iPad and we'll have the World Series on there tonight.
- 12:30I know Lucas will want to watch it too, as Lucas is.
- 12:32So is Lucas going to follow you to the Dome?
- 12:34No. No, he's, he's got duties back
- 12:36here. So we'll we'll figure out what
- 12:39we do up the Dome. We've done a couple of different
- 12:41things in the year. I want to ask you this.
- 12:43OK, as a Blue Jays fan, Yep. Bob Bouchette being included on
- 12:46the. Rock.
- 12:47I'm surprised. Do you like it?
- 12:49No, you don't. And.
- 12:51And I like Bobouchette. Yeah, I like Bobouchette with
- 12:56the bat in his hand. And he's OK as a shortstop.
- 12:59Jimenez is better, but I don't know who you're going to take
- 13:01out of the line up to put him back in.
- 13:03Bob Bouchette's a free agent. I think this is his final week
- 13:06as Jay, even though that's going to really piss off.
- 13:09Although I'm glad Guerrero's already signed because these two
- 13:12came up. But these are they're they're
- 13:13best friends. Yeah, I was surprised, but I, I
- 13:18mean, Joey Love, Profino, remember Beau Bichette, of
- 13:22course Bichette's going to be in there.
- 13:23I think he's a pinch hitter period at this point.
- 13:26He's not going to pinch run because he's he's hurt.
- 13:29And he got hurt in New York, right?
- 13:30He played the plate of all things.
- 13:33We'll see. I just hope that, you know, win
- 13:35a couple of games, make it somewhat competitive.
- 13:37Push it a little bit. Tuxedo Gaston.
- 13:41Still one of Chris Berman's better, I thought.
- 13:43Nicknames for players. Tuxedo Gaston throwing out the
- 13:46pitch in game one. The manager of the 92 and 93
- 13:49World Series winners and then Joe Carter throwing out the
- 13:52first pitch tomorrow. So a couple of big guns in
- 13:55Toronto as if you know, have you noticed what the some of the
- 13:58national media from the States is one of their questions that
- 14:02seemingly gets asked to all the Blue Jays?
- 14:04What's that pronounce Toronto? How do you pronounce Toronto?
- 14:07Do they say Toronto? Nah, some do.
- 14:10Yeah, some do. But anyways, OK, well, let's get
- 14:12you a keyword. Eugene REPAY is coming up one
- 14:16one thing and I don't know how to fit this in, so I'll just do
- 14:18it right now. If for the four NHL fans out
- 14:22there, Carolina and Colorado played last night and they wore
- 14:27their throwback uniforms the original teams, did you happen?
- 14:29To see this I did not so. Carolina wore their new are
- 14:33their Hartford Whaler Rd. unis beautiful beautiful and Colorado
- 14:39wore the Quebec Nordique home jerseys and the visual of those
- 14:45throwback uniforms. Absolutely.
- 14:48I have no idea. Won the game I think 54.
- 14:51Hurricanes. And in overtime, right?
- 14:53Oh, I'm looking at it right now. Oh, these?
- 14:54Are can you see the units spectacular.
- 14:57Doesn't it pop? I think that might be a close
- 15:01second to USCUCLA when they play each other as far as uniforms
- 15:06that just pop if you're on the if you're on the Twitter machine
- 15:09and you're doing nothing other than listening to us.
- 15:11We're grateful that you are search that is that just the
- 15:14uniforms are just unbelievable. All right, Eugene repay coming
- 15:18up keyword time, though, right now head to KX and o.com this
- 15:21nationwide contest. The keyword this hour is cash,
- 15:25cash at kxno.com, cash@kxno.com. Miller and Condon underway on a
- 15:32Friday. It's the Eye of Sports Radio
- 15:34Network flagship at Des Moines sports station One O 6.3 KXNO.
- 16:02Hi, Millory Condon, welcome back.
- 16:04It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
- 16:05Trent Condon, Ken Miller with you until 2 Mike Palm.
- 16:08We'll head to Las Vegas in about 15 minutes.
- 16:11Catch up with the vice president of operations at Circus sports
- 16:14right now. Eugene Repay covers Iowa State
- 16:17for the Des Moines Register, desmoinesregister.com Eugene,
- 16:20you've got a busy back-to-back days up in Ames.
- 16:23Football tomorrow, basketball, men's basketball on on Sunday.
- 16:28Going to be a pretty good weekend for Cyclone fans and
- 16:31we'll assume that they put him in the win call.
- 16:32We shall see. So here comes ABYU outfit.
- 16:35Eugene unbeaten. I was surprised personally that
- 16:39they beat Utah. When you listen to Campbell and
- 16:42some of the players speak and some of the coaching staff speak
- 16:45about BYU, what concerns them? Eugene, good to have you.
- 16:50Yeah, yeah. Always good to be on here to
- 16:52chatting up with you guys. The biggest thing with BYU that
- 16:54concerns them is just the way that BYU plays on both sides of
- 16:58the ball. Their physicality stands out the
- 17:00most. I mean, just offensively, that
- 17:02offensive line does a great job of paving the way for an
- 17:05offensive, averaging just over a touch over 232 rushing yards per
- 17:10game. The wide receivers love to get
- 17:12involved in the blocking, too. And then defensively,
- 17:15defensively, defense has always been their backbone.
- 17:18They generate turnovers. They hit hard, they get to the
- 17:21football and so just that physicality is what stands out
- 17:25to them the most. You know, this Iowa State team
- 17:28speaking, that physicality know when it's going to be a dogfight
- 17:30in this one. They're getting healthier,
- 17:32getting Carson Hanson back and getting, you know, that guy that
- 17:35can pick up third and two and get those tough three yards.
- 17:38That kind of guy getting his physicality back in there.
- 17:41Health wise, coming off the by, does it feel like Iowa State's
- 17:43in pretty good shape because boy, his feel is as good as your
- 17:46feel about some of the guys that he see Don Moran show up on the
- 17:49injury. Report yeah, that just seems to
- 17:52be the story with Iowa State. Just one that feels like that
- 17:54they're getting better, they're getting healthier.
- 17:56They they take a couple of steps back because now all of a sudden
- 17:58the guy like Dom Orange is still dealing with that ankle injury
- 18:01that he sustained during that Colorado game.
- 18:04So it's tough. You know, one hand, you're
- 18:05getting Carson Hanson back, you're trending closer to a Kyle
- 18:08Karardi, Chase Smith return. But now you have Dom Orange,
- 18:11who's just such a a big part of that defense in the middle of
- 18:15the defensive line is a block eater.
- 18:16Now he's questionable and and who knows how effective he'll
- 18:19be, if he's even able to play. So it it's tough.
- 18:23It's tough. I, I don't know if I could say
- 18:25that they're healthier, but I guess certain groups are getting
- 18:28healthier and other parts are, are still, you know, it's all
- 18:30hands on deck over there. You know, in in regards to
- 18:32Dominic Corns, and I don't mean to sound like I'm I'm crying
- 18:36fire in a crowded theater. I don't, but you you mention his
- 18:39ankle and and how healthy is he going to be?
- 18:41He's a first or a second round pick by a lot of NFL well draft
- 18:45scouts. You have to wonder if there's
- 18:47going to come a point where, and I know he's been great for the
- 18:50program. He's he's he's been there, you
- 18:53know, whenever they've needed him.
- 18:55Obviously he's the biggest cog on that defense.
- 18:57You have to wonder if there's going to come a point where he
- 19:00ultimately makes a business decision regarding his
- 19:03livelihood going forward once college comes to an end, if if
- 19:07the ankle is indeed that bad and if it perhaps, you know,
- 19:11prevents him from showing out to his full capabilities for the
- 19:14scouts going forward. Eugene.
- 19:17Yeah, no, that's definitely a tough conversational piece.
- 19:19And it's it's a concern that I've seen from a few fans just
- 19:22floating around on social media and things like that.
- 19:24But it's a legitimate one, unfortunately.
- 19:26I mean, I feel like especially in the last three to five years,
- 19:29we've seen more opt outs. We've seen more people quote UN
- 19:32quote shutting down or whatever it may be, You know, here Dom
- 19:35Orange has this ankle thing and depending on the severity of it,
- 19:39will we see him again or will we not?
- 19:41Right now, I guess it is still too early to, to kind of go down
- 19:44that way. But I look, I see the vision, I,
- 19:47I, I see where people are coming from when, when they bring that
- 19:50up as a concern. And that's just, unfortunately
- 19:52the way it is now with just college sports being such a
- 19:54business and of course, you know, NFL aspirations and all
- 19:57that. Especially if this week doesn't
- 19:59go their way and they're playing an undefeated team on the top of
- 20:02their standings, you know, there there's going to come a point.
- 20:04I'm not saying that's going to happen, but I've been saying
- 20:06that it's a legitimate concern. And it's a new reality.
- 20:08I don't blame them, but no and you don't.
- 20:10Either No, it's the new reality of college football.
- 20:12It's not just a Dom Orange thing, it's not just an Iowa
- 20:14State thing. It's college sports as we go
- 20:17through it right now. So let's say I'm Orange is out
- 20:19and it kind of, it feels like we're really trending that
- 20:21direction. Eugene, what's a better path for
- 20:25Iowa State to win this football game?
- 20:27Ground control, trying to shorten it up, try to play
- 20:31physical with by BYU or do you want to get this thing more in a
- 20:35shootout? I guess the way that I'm going,
- 20:36even offensively, more likely they're going to win this game
- 20:40running for 175 yards and both Sama and Hansen have a good game
- 20:44or this is 300 yards plus from Rocco.
- 20:47He's doing his thing and and they get out of this thing, you
- 20:49know, 3127, something like that. Yeah, I feel like there there's
- 20:53going to have to be a little bit of ball control, but also I
- 20:56think Rocco Beck is coming off of an uncharacteristic game for
- 21:00him. You know, it's one, it's a
- 21:01performance that he's taken hard on himself and he's looking to
- 21:04bounce back from that against Colorado.
- 21:06For me, though, I, I look at third down conversions, I feel
- 21:09like has has been struggling on that front, especially in these
- 21:13last two losses. And of course, it's tough when
- 21:15when you're dealing with kickers being out and and being injured.
- 21:19But if they can win third down, if they can keep those drives
- 21:22alive and having Carson Hanson will definitely help when you
- 21:25need those short yardage situations or just having
- 21:27another weapon that maybe you could neither pass it to him or
- 21:30whatever. But just third down is just so
- 21:32crucial. And BYU actually has the
- 21:34stingiest third down conversion rate allowed.
- 21:37Iowa State can win those or you know, get those key plays to
- 21:41just kind of keep Dr. sustained, put up some points, control the
- 21:45clock, control the whatever it may be.
- 21:47I I feel like that'll give them a shot to win here and pull off
- 21:50the outset. Yeah, because they have not done
- 21:51well in 3rd downs as of late. Conradi sounds like he's
- 21:54trending in the right direction. They truly need him.
- 21:57Obviously it's been, you know, they haven't been able to do
- 22:00what they want to do because they just haven't had the
- 22:02production out of that spot. Conradi, do you think it's it's
- 22:06better than 5050? Would you say at this point,
- 22:08maybe 7030 that he does play 8020?
- 22:11Where are you, Eugene, regarding Iowa State?
- 22:15Yeah, the staff is very optimistic that he'll be back.
- 22:17I don't know if there's a little bit of gamesmanship here with
- 22:20the injury report, but on Tuesday they were assertive that
- 22:23that he will be available on Saturday.
- 22:25I wonder if it's a case where they'll just have them for extra
- 22:28points and field goals. Obviously you don't need to use
- 22:30him or stress him with kickoff duties.
- 22:32But you know, I do feel like there's a good chance Camarades
- 22:35back. I would put it at with the way
- 22:39they were talking on Tuesday, it sounded like 8020, but I would
- 22:41go 7030. Going back to earlier in the
- 22:45week in Haycock, I thought it was interesting, you know,
- 22:47inside the locker room and you kind of wonder what's happening
- 22:50after back-to-back losses. You have to linger on it on top
- 22:52of it with a bye week. And, you know, he said, I think
- 22:55we're at a crossroads. I he laid it out there.
- 22:58Iowa State's been good in these kind of spots.
- 23:00Historically, this has been a spot where Matt Campbell when
- 23:03the doubters are out there, they've been able to punch back.
- 23:06Do you anticipate that kind of performance?
- 23:08And regardless how the game wins out, they're going to go down
- 23:11fighting at minimum. Yeah, I think they'll go down
- 23:13fighting. It is an interesting point that
- 23:16you do bring up that, yeah, like when their backs are against the
- 23:18walls or when the odds are stacked against them or whatever
- 23:21it may be when people start to write them off, that was when
- 23:23Iowa State just rises to the occasion and exceeds
- 23:26expectations. The rest of their schedule is
- 23:29definitely tough. But I don't think Iowa State's
- 23:31going to roll over. I don't think that this is a
- 23:33team that's going to collapse or anything like that.
- 23:35I don't think we'll see an avalanche of losses.
- 23:37I wouldn't. You know, I know Vegas right now
- 23:39is leaning towards Iowa State for this game and, and, and you
- 23:43know, it's definitely there's definitely a case there, but I I
- 23:47think Iowa State will step things up and ramp things up
- 23:50coming down the stretch. This is a soul searching moment.
- 23:52It kind of reminds me of last year a little bit when they lost
- 23:55to Texas Tech and Kansas. And then you thought maybe, oh,
- 23:57the injuries are piling up. It's too much.
- 24:00They're not going to be able to regroup from this.
- 24:02And then they one out for the rest of the regular season.
- 24:04So you can't write them off yet. No, absolutely not.
- 24:07And the good thing is, is the Games is Jack Trice, the last
- 24:10two of their two losses, those back-to-back losses on the road
- 24:13and then they get that bye week basketball.
- 24:15Eugene Northwestern on Sunday, noon or 1:00 Eugene, do you know
- 24:21noon? OK, noon, 12 noon.
- 24:23Yeah, you were over in Omaha a week ago tonight and that's why
- 24:26they have these exhibition games, to kind of get a feel for
- 24:29what your team and what you're working on, etcetera.
- 24:31Obviously they're going to shoot better than they did last Friday
- 24:35night. We, we, we hope that it can't be
- 24:38that bad. What did you see?
- 24:39What what do you think concerned TJ?
- 24:42What did he focus on this week once he got the team back and
- 24:45back on the practice floor in advance of tomorrow's final
- 24:48exhibition prep against Northwestern?
- 24:51Yeah, I feel like they really worked on ramping up the
- 24:53defensive intensity. It felt like against Creighton
- 24:56in the first half, they were scattered.
- 24:57They were stepped behind everything.
- 24:58They weren't really forcing turnovers.
- 25:00And then in the second-half against Creighton, they were
- 25:02able to make a little bit of comeback there, trimming a 28
- 25:06point deficit to just 8. And it all started on the
- 25:09defensive end and it started with, you know, freshman
- 25:11basketball being able to contest shots, doing a much better job
- 25:15of generating turnovers and moving the ball.
- 25:17So I think that you know, TJ Altoberger will will continue to
- 25:21drill that this week going into Northwestern.
- 25:23As we know, Iowa State is at its best when it's able to feast in
- 25:26transition or or capitalize on opponents mistakes.
- 25:29So that that second-half was promising because the first half
- 25:34the way that that 23 O run unfolded at Omaha, you thought,
- 25:37Oh no, what what is going on here?
- 25:39What what is happening to this team?
- 25:41But then in the second-half they really started to correct some
- 25:43things and chose some problem solving.
- 25:45And of course tame ellipses out too.
- 25:46So that's all. That's still a factor.
- 25:48But yeah, it's just an exhibition so you can't read too
- 25:52much into it. But there are definitely some
- 25:54some signs of improvement and some promising signs to carry
- 25:57forward. Eugenerepaydesmoinesregister.com,
- 26:00desmoinesregister.com Eugene and Travis Hines got you covered for
- 26:04Iowa State. Eugene, as always, thank you for
- 26:06doing this. We'll run you down next week if
- 26:08your schedule allows. Thank you, Eugene, Good to talk
- 26:11to you. Eugene Rappe, as we check in on
- 26:14iowastatedesmoinesregister.com. By the way, you may want to keep
- 26:17refreshingdesmoinesregister.com throughout the afternoon.
- 26:19A little piece coming up that may interest some of you that
- 26:23apparently is going to be out this afternoon.
- 26:26It is time to take a break. We'll come back.
- 26:29We will head to Las Vegas, catch up with our buddy Mike Palm.
- 26:33Miller and Condon underway on a Friday, it's the Iowa Sports
- 26:36Radio Network. Hi, Miller.
- 26:39Condon, welcome back, guy with Sports Radio Network.
- 26:41Trent Condon, Ken Miller with you until 2.
- 26:44Bama Bob kicks off our number 2 Tom Cacord on the Hawks.
- 26:48Let's head to Las Vegas. You got a tight window, so let's
- 26:50get to write to Mike Pom, VP of operations at Circus Sports.
- 26:55Mike, thanks for finding a few minutes for us.
- 26:57We won't keep you. Start with the the fall classic
- 27:00Blue Jays, obviously in the Dodgers.
- 27:02I'm guessing you need the Blue Jays in this series.
- 27:05Is it pronounced difference between Dodgers in Blue Jays
- 27:09when it comes to Circa as to who wins?
- 27:12I think it's about a $700,000 swing for us.
- 27:17We need the Blue Jays. We've had a lot of cross board
- 27:19parlays that close out with the Dodgers, one in the World
- 27:24Series. Remember, they were plus 220 in
- 27:26March and then just through the course of the year, you know
- 27:31that the public likes to bet the Dodgers at any price, and we
- 27:33didn't have a lot of Blue Jays action.
- 27:35So it's very pronounced. Can you make a case for Toronto?
- 27:41Well, you can make the historical case of when the team
- 27:44sweeps. Yeah.
- 27:44And the other team goes 7, so it's five and O to the team that
- 27:48went seven. I think we'll know tonight.
- 27:52There's ten days off, 10 days of rest.
- 27:55Effect. Blake Snell, That's got to be
- 27:58the hope for Toronto that this Dodger team may be rusty the
- 28:02first two games. I don't know.
- 28:04I don't like the fact they don't have a lot of left-handed arms
- 28:06against that left-handed heavy lineup.
- 28:10I, you know, I don't have a position here in this, but if
- 28:13you told me what's your prediction, I would, I would say
- 28:17Dodgers in 5 or 6. Dodgers 5 or 6.
- 28:20Have you seen many people jump aboard in that market?
- 28:22Dodgers in Dodgers in a sweep. Dodgers in five.
- 28:25Have you seen people jump aboard in that market?
- 28:27Because if you want to play the Dodgers, it's hard to lay that
- 28:30kind of price going into a World Series.
- 28:33Yeah, Dodgers in 5 has been the most popular bet here.
- 28:37Others, because, you know, we're at 240, they're probably going
- 28:40to play individual games. I mean, he gets now for for less
- 28:43than $1.40. I mean, it's a whole dollar
- 28:45difference in the price of smell in game one versus the series or
- 28:50late game and 1/2 or late 2, 1/2, Those are the more popular
- 28:52ways to play the series. Let's talk about the two locals.
- 28:55College football teams. Iowa State narrow favorite. 2
- 28:591/2 has been that way most of the week.
- 29:00Mike, what are you seeing? BYU.
- 29:02Iowa State. Yeah, it's not moving.
- 29:05That's the line that hasn't moved.
- 29:06Where there's been a little movement in the Iowa game.
- 29:08I don't really get the number. BYU is a physical football team.
- 29:14Iowa State can't tackle. I I don't know how they're a
- 29:16home favorite here, but we'll see what happens.
- 29:22But I I I would be surprised if Iowa State wins this game by any
- 29:27margin at all. You go to the BYU Iowa State
- 29:31game and this has been an interesting one.
- 29:34It's it's the old one, taking the Iowa State angle away from
- 29:37it. You got a ranked team against an
- 29:39unranked team, yet they're the underdog.
- 29:41And so many times this has been you believe in trends.
- 29:43This has been a trend that has worked in college football.
- 29:46And it says take the Cyclones this week.
- 29:48Yeah, except Matt Campbell sucks in games where the line is 4
- 29:51points or less. He does not have a good record
- 29:54in these games where the line is is 4 one way or the other or
- 29:57less. So I mean, you have you have the
- 30:00overall trend in college football versus Matt Campbell.
- 30:04Iowa on the other hand, there are AI.
- 30:07Think you guys were down to 8 last time I checked just before
- 30:10the show, somewhere between 8:00 and 9:00 and a half point.
- 30:12Favorite Gophers look good against the Huskers last week.
- 30:15Iowa, the beat goes on there. What are you seeing?
- 30:19At most, I mean, every time I look at it, it moves one way or
- 30:23the other. It was 9 yesterday, then down to
- 30:258. You know, I've tried Trent
- 30:29facing a lot of backlash and then the Minnesota communities
- 30:33for the way he talks about PJ Fleck was the ultimate con man.
- 30:37I mean, maybe he can parlay his victory over a very average
- 30:41Nebraska team into the Vikings job.
- 30:43I'm not sure He had everybody in Minneapolis State, Paul
- 30:47convinced that he beat the 83 Huskers last week.
- 30:49It is. It is just an ultimate blend
- 30:52plan job up there. He has this one win every year
- 30:55that they they all circle around say we got to give him another
- 30:58five year extension. It's it's really a joke.
- 31:02I love that I it's good for Iowa that Minnesota won last week.
- 31:05I think because now they're coming off that high spot,
- 31:08although it is a pretty big rivalry game, I wouldn't want to
- 31:13lay more than a touchdown in this spot honestly, and in what
- 31:16has been a very low scoring series through the years, 8 or 9
- 31:21is a lot of points. Kind of where I am on that one
- 31:24to the NFL circa Survivor. We thought we were going to get
- 31:27cartage. Oh boy.
- 31:29There was a moment, probably about 555 our time on Sunday
- 31:32afternoon. I thought that the Cardinals
- 31:34were going to get home, the Giants were going to get home,
- 31:36and things were going to be looking a whole lot different.
- 31:38Didn't happen. Now we get this week with the
- 31:41whole teams. You're starting to look around a
- 31:43little bit more. Certainly that's been the case.
- 31:45I'm thinking about using the Bengals this week, Cincinnati
- 31:49against anybody, even The Jets. It's concerning the Patriots,
- 31:52but they still have The Jets 2 more times this year.
- 31:54Kind of a tricky week this week in Survivor, Mike.
- 31:57Yeah, there looks to be some choices that that might be
- 32:01fairly. I think the Falcons will be
- 32:02highly used against this doll just because this.
- 32:06I mean, if you you cannot put McDaniel or two in front of a
- 32:09microphone. It's absolutely mind boggling
- 32:13the things that they say on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday out
- 32:15to it. Can't see over the line.
- 32:17McDaniel can't form a sentence. I I think that's going to be the
- 32:21most popular pick, although you know, you you go down the list
- 32:24and you can you can make cases for a couple of teams.
- 32:27But I agree. I, I would say the Patriots for
- 32:30when they, when they host The Jets.
- 32:35You're right. I mean, I, I would, if it was
- 32:37me, I would take Atlanta in this spot.
- 32:39Yeah, I I'm with you. I will get you out of here on
- 32:41this mic. And I'm only asking you because
- 32:43you're a huge hockey fan. I almost bugged you last night
- 32:44and texted you. Did you see the the Hurricanes
- 32:48and the Avalanche throwback jerseys and and did it pop off
- 32:51your television screen like it did mine?
- 32:53You mean the whalers and the? Yes, absolutely.
- 32:57And it was a hell of a game it. Was apparently.
- 33:00An interesting start to the NHL season, I would say.
- 33:04Blackhawks might have a little bit of life.
- 33:06It looks really bad. Tampa can't score.
- 33:10So it's it's been an interesting start.
- 33:12I have I bet before the season started right, right, right on
- 33:16opening day. I bet we have a latch over
- 33:20devils in the. Good one. 5059 to 1.
- 33:25So New Jersey looks like the best team in hockey to me right
- 33:28now. Boy, are they fast.
- 33:30And I've been betting them all along.
- 33:31I continue to to. I don't think the market's
- 33:33caught up with them yet because everybody remembers the end of
- 33:35last year but that they were riddled by injuries.
- 33:38Yeah, no, you're 100% right. I'm with you on the ABS.
- 33:40They look terrific and New Jersey's fun to watch.
- 33:43Mike, we'll let you get back to your meeting.
- 33:44Thanks for stepping out for a few minutes.
- 33:45Have a great week, Mike Palm. Thanks guys.
- 33:47Good luck this weekend. Thank you.
- 33:49Good to talk to you, Mike Palm, VP of operations at Circus
- 33:52Sports. Download the new Circus Sports
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- 33:58coming months. But if you are listening over in
- 34:00Illinois, download the Circus Sports app in Illinois as well.
- 34:03And what he said, I think is absolutely apropos.
- 34:06Everybody needs the Dodger. I mean, needs the Blue Jays if
- 34:10you're a sports book operator because how many, you know,
- 34:13multi chat? I mean, I've got a handful of
- 34:14them ending with the Dodgers, right.
- 34:18Can we stack them together? I love to bet that way, Trent.
- 34:20I truly do. Champion of the Stanley Cup
- 34:23Final four, throwing up anything and then use the quote free
- 34:27square at the end, which is the Dodgers to win or what?
- 34:31Who was it a couple years ago? What in what the Oh, the South
- 34:33Carolina, the women, right. We all cash tickets there.
- 34:38Well, take that one. That was they beat, I win that
- 34:41guy, they beat I win that kid for the free square.
- 34:43And they were at that time like plus 25225, something like that.
- 34:47Well, whatever you're putting together, just throw that in
- 34:49there and that one came to fruition.
- 34:51No it. Did all right.
- 34:52I got to talk through this a little bit with you since we've
- 34:54got a little time. What do you got, by the way?
- 34:56The story's out at The Register. Former sports radio personality
- 35:00Marty Terrell indicted to get on new fraud charges.
- 35:02Shocker survivor this week? Yep, now you mentioned the
- 35:08Falcons. But you've used them.
- 35:11I've used Atlanta, so we have to cross them off.
- 35:13I don't get them at home where they're always a front runner at
- 35:16home against those God awful Dolphins who are just so the
- 35:22teams I can't use the Colts already use the Colts, can't use
- 35:24them against the Titans, so they get crossed off.
- 35:27The Chiefs told you. You're saving them.
- 35:29Saving them so the three big spreads of the week are all
- 35:34cross offs. I'm not playing the Eagles
- 35:35against the Giants. I'm not playing a divisional
- 35:38game. You know this, You know it is
- 35:39still at this point and I don't think last week.
- 35:43Did did last night make you dig in your heels even more that the
- 35:46Eagles are fixed? It's a tough word.
- 35:50It's a tough week to say the word fixed that.
- 35:54That they're not broken, Maybe. Because you and our power
- 35:59rankings on our inside the numbers the other.
- 36:01I love the way that they beat the Vikings and then the Vikings
- 36:03look like absolute dog crap last night.
- 36:06I don't want to use the Bills at Carolina, don't want to use a
- 36:09road team. I think it's down to two or you
- 36:12still got the Bills. I do.
- 36:14I think it's down to. And you won't use the bills this
- 36:16week. You won't.
- 36:17Use No, actually, I have used the Bills.
- 36:18Now you say that I have used the Bills.
- 36:20I think it's down to Cincinnati or the Patriots.
- 36:24Cincinnati over The Jets and The Jets are just God awful.
- 36:28Is Fields going to play? Are they going to bench him?
- 36:31No, they did and Tyrod came in and now he's hurt.
- 36:34So it's 6 1/2 dozen, the other right at the quarterback spot
- 36:39for him. And yet Joe Flacco looked great
- 36:41on that Thursday. Now he.
- 36:42Did did you see his quote about eating by himself in a
- 36:45restaurant? Can he replicate that though?
- 36:48He's got the two. He's got the best.
- 36:51I think Chase is an inch above Jefferson that.
- 36:54Offensive line played as good as it has all seasoned.
- 36:56And been awful. But the Steelers have also
- 36:59stormed I don't know. And then the others.
- 37:01Down to Cincy and and the Patriots.
- 37:05OK, Drake may kind of the the flavor of the month, right?
- 37:08What he's done this is who he has beat up on in this winning
- 37:12streak. All right, the Carolina Panthers
- 37:15who gave up their they're. Better though, they're better.
- 37:17What week was that? That was the last week in
- 37:20September. OK at the Bills.
- 37:23Not a good defense. No, but you're still at Bills,
- 37:26the Saints, and they're you. What do you call them?
- 37:29Plucky. Plucky, not good.
- 37:31And the Titans. Really bad.
- 37:34All those defenses are on the bottom third of the league.
- 37:37All of them. All four of them.
- 37:38So your survivor, your survival in survivor, is going to come
- 37:44down to the Bengals or the Patriots.
- 37:48And the Patriots against the Browns defense.
- 37:50This is the first time the Drake Bay is going to see a good
- 37:52defense. There's also a guy that lost to
- 37:53the Raiders in Week 1 on top of it.
- 37:58The Patriots still have two games left with The Jets.
- 38:01Do you want to bank? Do you want to bank the Patriots
- 38:03for that? What is will you?
- 38:04Is there a case where you can use Cincinnati again?
- 38:08I don't think so. That was the other angle that
- 38:10they do. Play at Dolphins and you won't
- 38:12play that game. Divisional game on the road I
- 38:15will not. That is a cross.
- 38:17They host the Cardinals possibly, but that's Week 16, so
- 38:21you got to get there. And and Burl might be.
- 38:23And Burl will be back. At that point.
- 38:26You use this, you have to use the Bengals.
- 38:28The only other team that I really like this week, and this
- 38:31will be part of our picks coming up in the NFL, this is one of my
- 38:35two NFL picks is the Houston Texans against the 49ers.
- 38:39You might say I just watched this team and Monday night.
- 38:40You're taking Houston. I am.
- 38:43I love you. That's defense.
- 38:45The Niners lost another defensive half, right.
- 38:49We know Fred Warner's out. Yeah, we know Fred Warner's out.
- 38:52I and Mac Jones is starting. I love their defense against the
- 38:5640. I just don't think the 49ers are
- 38:57going to score now. Thought the Texans scored off
- 39:00and 2 BC. That's less than a field.
- 39:02Goal. That would be about the only
- 39:04other angle when you couple all the teams that are still alive
- 39:07in this world. That's why this contest is so
- 39:10tough. You are.
- 39:11This is going to eat at you until you submit your pick.
- 39:15I. Do you?
- 39:17Are you asking me for my opinion 'cause I don't want to give it
- 39:20if you don't? What do you have for?
- 39:22Me, I would use the Bengals. That's where I think I'm going.
- 39:25I would use the Bengals God. Now, if I'm going with Joe
- 39:28Flacco in the Cincinnati Bengals this deep into the contest.
- 39:32In the final week of October without Joe Burrow.
- 39:35Without Joe Burrow with $18,455,000 at the end of the
- 39:40rainbow and you're still alive and 14,000 of us are by the
- 39:45wayside. Oh yo-yo, yo-yo I.
- 39:49Think I'm doing it. I think you should I.
- 39:51Think I'm going to. I now have a noon window game
- 39:55that I will be locked and loaded on because the noon slate on on
- 39:59Sunday. I mean, I mean, I'm glad it's
- 40:02bad so we can watch Iowa State, Northwestern, at least a lot of
- 40:04it. Now I'm going to be watching the
- 40:08Bengals and The Jets, I guess. We locally here across the state
- 40:12of Iowa, we. What do we get?
- 40:13Let me let me try and guess. Do we have time?
- 40:15We've got, we're going to. Oh my God, what a pile of crap.
- 40:18It's worse than I thought. We get the Bears and the Ravens.
- 40:21We do. That'll be the early window for
- 40:22everybody. CBS late.
- 40:24Everybody else will get the Cowboys and the Broncos, The Fox
- 40:28single game in Des Moines. Yes, 49ers, Texans, Eastern
- 40:34Iowa. You will be getting Giants
- 40:36Philadelphia, as will Western and North Iowa.
- 40:39And the CBS late window, everyone will Well, it's an
- 40:42indie. No, it should be Dallas Denver.
- 40:44It's a it's a no brainer. Dallas, Denver.
- 40:46Outside of the local markets, that's what you'll get.
- 40:47Hour 2 coming up in the next Bama, Bob Trent and I kick it
- 40:50off with college football. Tom Kakert on the Hawks, Miller
- 40:52and Condon on Des Moines Sports Station One O 6.3 KXNO.