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The Evils of Humanity… by Way of Remakes · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 6: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 1: There are two kinds of evil people.
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  Speaker 7: People who do evil stuff and people who see evil
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  Speaker 7: stuff being done and don't try to stop it.
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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Gina.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Paul.
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  Speaker 3: And we are coming to you live via digital recording from,
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  Speaker 3: what did we decide this place was? You had a
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  Speaker 3: lot of ridiculous names and I vetoed them all.
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jay Way. I don't like that. There we go.
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  Speaker 3: That was, I think, yeah, I think in the end
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  Speaker 3: we decided Paul liked that and you complained and we
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  Speaker 3: just called it that anyway.
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  Speaker 8: That's how things usually go.
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  Speaker 1: So, Mindy's basement.
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  Speaker 8: I had a good friend when I was like a
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  Speaker 8: kid named Mindy.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did she have a friend named Mork?
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  Speaker 3: Did he live in her attic? Actually, that attic seems
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  Speaker 3: pretty cool now.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I could live in an attic.
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  Speaker 9: I know, and it was Denver.
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  Speaker 8: That made me want to live in Denver as a kid.
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  Speaker 3: Boulder.
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  Speaker 10: Boulder.
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  Speaker 3: Sadly, I was going to correct that. We're both nerds.
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  Speaker 3: Because I was about to.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 8: I always thought it was Denver.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the vicinity.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, it's the same state.
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  Speaker 1: It's close. More or less in the same state, yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, well.
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  Speaker 8: My life has been a lie.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I thought that anyway, but it's good that you've
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  Speaker 3: come to terms with it.
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  Speaker 8: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: She was on the... They were implying that she was
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  Speaker 1: a college student. By living in Boulder, just living in Boulder.
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  Speaker 1: They were saying, oh, she's one of those.
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  Speaker 3: Even though when I think back on it now, doesn't
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  Speaker 3: she seem like 27? Maybe she was like a further
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  Speaker 3: into her life and decided to go to college.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was the 70s. She was a TA.
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  Speaker 1: A 70s, 20-something is really an early 20-something by today.
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  Speaker 3: You tell the judge that. He said 16, 16. Unless
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  Speaker 3: you're in the teen age.
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  Speaker 1: Then you get in trouble. Well, if you're a teenager today,
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  Speaker 1: you look like you're 28. 90210 rules. But in the 70s,
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  Speaker 1: if you looked 30, you were actually probably 21. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And if you go back to World War II, if
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  Speaker 3: you looked 30, you were 87. No, if you looked 87,
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  Speaker 3: you were 30.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Because in the movies, everybody, you were like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 8: how old were they supposed to be? So you totally
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  Speaker 8: lose track of what's going on because you can't figure
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  Speaker 8: out how.
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  Speaker 9: Old they're supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: Henry Bogart always looked like that.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He was 15 and he still looked like that.
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  Speaker 10: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: He was 15, but he was able to dodge the
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  Speaker 1: whole draft board scenario.
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  Speaker 3: They let you buy cigarettes then anyway.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't care.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you could be like two and go buy a
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  Speaker 8: pack of cigarettes.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, that's cool. He was 15, but he
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  Speaker 1: looked like he was 35. That's how he got in.
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  Speaker 8: He came out of, he was born.
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  Speaker 1: He was born 15.
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  Speaker 8: Was pushed out looking like he was 30.
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  Speaker 3: He was born 35, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's been a while.
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  Speaker 3: You guys, you were here a whole lot and then
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  Speaker 3: you disappeared.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we've been traveling a lot. What's gone on in
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  Speaker 1: your life since last we spoke?
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  Speaker 8: We went to Ireland.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't get to.
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  Speaker 5: Go at all.
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  Speaker 1: And then we went to Nashville. And then we went
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  Speaker 1: to Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to two out of three, four. I've been
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  Speaker 1: out of three or four.
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  Speaker 5: Of those places.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: We saw Robin Hitchcock a bunch of times in there.
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  Speaker 1: Are you following him around?
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  Speaker 3: Does he need to alert the authorities?
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  Speaker 1: Probably.
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  Speaker 8: I said it's weird. He's my equivalent of a walking
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  Speaker 8: science fiction convention. I get in front and I just
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  Speaker 8: lose it. I'm a total nerd and I lose it.
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  Speaker 8: I lose all my I have no cool. But any
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  Speaker 8: cool that I possibly had, I lose.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about this cool you speak of.
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  Speaker 8: But anyway, then we went and saw Elbow and they
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  Speaker 8: were fantastic, but Now, the whole Robin Hitchcock thing, we've
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  Speaker 8: never been able to see him because he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Never comes here.
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  Speaker 8: He never came here, like, close. Now he lives in Nashville,
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  Speaker 8: so he plays all over.
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  Speaker 1: So you're on his front porch all the time.
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  Speaker 8: It was just nice to be able to go to
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  Speaker 8: see him. I liked him as a kid.
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  Speaker 1: Two out of three times that we've seen him, they
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  Speaker 1: were free.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's a bonus. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, I think he just plays a lot of
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  Speaker 1: free shows.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, either way, that's a bonus for you.
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  Speaker 8: That's an icon to me. Dudes from then have not
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  Speaker 8: held up like he has in his music. It's cool. Anyway,
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  Speaker 8: what else did we do? Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We've just been doing stuff. Summer happened. Life happened.
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  Speaker 8: There was lots of lawn mowing. That seems to happen
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  Speaker 8: a lot in the summer.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of leaf mowing. wrangling yeah don't do
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  Speaker 1: that i keep trying to tell.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah i got a new car because my other
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  Speaker 8: car was a.
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  Speaker 1: Death trap fun death traps are.
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  Speaker 10: Cool so much fun i know it was great yeah
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  Speaker 10: it's got michael yeah yeah i mean i envisioned you
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  Speaker 10: know her you know dying in some sort of uh
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  Speaker 10: uh James Dean scenario.
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  Speaker 1: Every day you envision wrapping it around a tree.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know if that was a fantasy or fear.
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  Speaker 1: I've escaped from her iron grasp.
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  Speaker 8: Every day I imagined her in a fiery, fiery crash.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, damn it.
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  Speaker 1: Now she bought a safe car.
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  Speaker 5: What the hell?
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  Speaker 1: No tree in her future.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know. Yeah, no, I'm imagining like matchbox cars
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  Speaker 8: pile up. Because that's like what I drove.
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  Speaker 3: I drove a matchbox car.
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  Speaker 1: I did see someone, we were talking earlier about running
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  Speaker 1: into people with large amounts of money.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I saw someone lately and I was near
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  Speaker 3: their house and in.
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  Speaker 1: The driveway was a spider.
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  Speaker 10: What?
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  Speaker 1: What kind of spider?
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of the, it was a new one though. It
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  Speaker 3: was new and fancy. And I was like, me.
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  Speaker 1: Alpha Romeo spider? I believe. Isn't that the James Dean
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  Speaker 1: death car?
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  Speaker 3: That's what I, being the movie geek I am, I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, hey, that's the car that killed James Dean.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't recall. I could look it up.
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  Speaker 8: Are they Fiat's? Is Fiat making a new sporty-looking thing, though,
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  Speaker 8: that kind of looks like an old spider? Am I
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  Speaker 8: making that up? Did I dream that?
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  Speaker 1: Alfa Romeo is.
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  Speaker 8: They are again?
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  Speaker 1: They have a spider.
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  Speaker 8: I know, originally, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty sure that's what it looked like to me. They
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  Speaker 1: have one now.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, they do now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's made on this. It's literally made. No, wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute. Yes, it is literally made on the same
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  Speaker 1: assembly line in Japan as the Mazda Miata because they
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  Speaker 1: have the same chassis. That's what we were talking about.
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  Speaker 1: It was just kind of shaped like that, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: going with that one.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, that's what I had, and I loved it.
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  Speaker 8: Not the Fiat, but the Miata.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a Fiat. I mean the.
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  Speaker 3: So, wrapped around a tree, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that happened. We, you know.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, we got another cat. Yeah, we were up to
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  Speaker 8: four cats.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. We were up to four cats and
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  Speaker 1: a Roomba. Yeah, we got a Roomba. The Roomba was
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  Speaker 1: part of the deal, right? That's the only way that
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be able to manage this level of
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  Speaker 1: cat tumbleweed. Robots.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, robots.
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  Speaker 1: I need robotic assistance.
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  Speaker 8: They only puke in places that the Roomba doesn't seem
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  Speaker 8: to go, like our bed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that would not go well. I've
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  Speaker 1: heard horror stories about Roombas.
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  Speaker 8: Old dogs and Roombas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that happens. It's not, yeah.
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  Speaker 12: That's a.
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  Speaker 1: And it's actually in the manual, the room of the manual,
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  Speaker 1: to avoid liquids. Incontinent pets.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like that could be something they could put
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  Speaker 3: in the robot. Be like, whoa, I'm sensing a liquid here.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll just back up and or stop altogether and
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  Speaker 3: just go.
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  Speaker 1: Park it over here and hang out and wait till
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  Speaker 1: the human comes home and goes, oh, thank God that
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  Speaker 1: robot didn't go over there.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, there should be some sort of sensor.
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  Speaker 1: Get with me, room of people. We'll put this together.
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  Speaker 1: If it seems gross, just avoid it. Or maybe just
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  Speaker 1: a debris sluicer that will only allow water to pass through.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: If it can handle... Into a jet that shoots it
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  Speaker 3: out the top and onto your walls.
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  Speaker 8: That's what it does.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like this plan already.
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  Speaker 9: It does that anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but it just shoots it out the sides.
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  Speaker 1: We want to really get it on the ceiling if possible.
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  Speaker 1: That's really the idea. The fall is found. You've been
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  Speaker 1: delaying painting. Face it.
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  Speaker 12: Now you have to.
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  Speaker 8: Now you have to paint.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what we've been up to. How about you? No,
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  Speaker 1: we're not. This is it.
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  Speaker 3: I try not to bring them down with my you know.
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  Speaker 1: Outside life.
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  Speaker 3: This is all I do, really.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I exist as best I can outside of it.
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  Speaker 1: Get up in the morning. And then I melt down.
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  Speaker 3: The meltdown is the only thing that fuels the hole
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  Speaker 3: inside me and keeps me going.
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  Speaker 1: There's a metaphor there somewhere, I think. First, you know,
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  Speaker 1: something else. I'm dead inside.
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  Speaker 5: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 8: I am.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's true.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not arguing.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen any movies lately? We have. Just recently.
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  Speaker 1: This week.
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  Speaker 3: If we need to devote an entire episode down the line,
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  Speaker 3: you let me know.
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  Speaker 1: Because you've seen it now. Here's the thing. Because I
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  Speaker 1: believe I know which one you went and saw.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Can I reveal it? We saw.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: Do you need to go get the drums and do
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: the drum solo to lead in as your build-up?
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: We saw the disaster artist. Now, we've talked about the
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  Speaker 1: room before. I think we brought it up.
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  Speaker 3: Probably in the Birdemic episode.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that we really need to beat a
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: dead horse. I mean, it is what it is. But
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  Speaker 1: I think you can say you would have to see
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  Speaker 1: the original before you saw the reference to the original.
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  Speaker 8: Like it's far more.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was going, I was hoping it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be a universal sort of movie that you,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't matter. It was going to be sort of
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  Speaker 1: universally funny because there were, you know, things that translated.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I feel like if it,
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  Speaker 3: if it worked the way you would want something like that,
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  Speaker 3: like it would be one of those. You could almost
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  Speaker 3: see it and kind of not believe it because I
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: still don't believe it and I've seen it. But I
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  Speaker 3: remember like some of it doesn't seem real or that
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  Speaker 3: this ever got made.
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  Speaker 1: Or happened or found people.
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  Speaker 3: So it would be one of those you'd watch it
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  Speaker 3: and be like, it would be almost so preposterous if
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  Speaker 3: you didn't know this were a real story.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And also, I don't think that like, I think his
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  Speaker 8: Tommy Wiseau seems way creepier and worse.
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  Speaker 1: Than Then Goofy.
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  Speaker 8: Then Goofy. No, no, I mean, I think if you
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  Speaker 8: didn't know about the movie.
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  Speaker 3: So this movie makes him seem worse than.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think it could if you didn't
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  Speaker 8: have a frame of reference.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, the disaster artist makes Tommy Wiseau seem creepier than
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  Speaker 1: he actually was? Because I thought the real movie.
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  Speaker 3: Seems pretty damn creepy. It's pretty creepy.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty creepy.
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  Speaker 8: It's pretty creepy, but I think that But are you.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about all the behind the scenes sort of thing?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, like the kind of behind the scenes thing, it seems.
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  Speaker 1: Like, make sure you get a shot of my ass.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I assumed that was happening, because I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: it's featured pretty prominently, and I'm like, he did direct
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  Speaker 3: and write, and he's the only one working this angle
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  Speaker 3: right now. I knew that had to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, because anyone with sense would go, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Pull that blanket up, dude. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: But when you're weird and caught in your own head
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  Speaker 3: and kind of think you're awesome anyway, like, obviously, you
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  Speaker 3: have to feature your own ass.
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  Speaker 5: Why would you not?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I could think of a couple of reasons.
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  Speaker 1: It's an interesting story.
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  Speaker 3: I think I mentioned in the past that we had
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  Speaker 3: Greg Cicero, who is the author of The Disaster Artist,
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  Speaker 3: his co-star, he's been on before and had some really
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  Speaker 3: interesting stories about Tommy. Because I was kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: it's not real, right? Well, I mean, in general, I
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  Speaker 3: still kind of feel like he's an alien.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In general. But even then, I was like, this is like,
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  Speaker 1: you dealt with him all the time, dude. That's a
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  Speaker 1: put on, right? He's not really... He's really like that.
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  Speaker 3: He's still friends with him now.
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  Speaker 1: He's just, that's Tommy. That's just how it works. Mad,
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  Speaker 1: independently wealthy, Eastern European slash Cajun. Cajun. Whatever he is.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still not sure. That's why I go with alien.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like he's from this planet.
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  Speaker 8: It was good, and I think that James Franco did a,
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  Speaker 8: he and his brother both did Really good jobs.
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  Speaker 3: He's at least committed to his weird projects.
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  Speaker 8: I like his weird projects.
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  Speaker 3: He takes on a lot of weird projects.
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  Speaker 1: He's adventurous.
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  Speaker 3: He's not afraid to do something that's going to land
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  Speaker 3: on him.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's my favorite part about him. You could
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: say he's a bad actor or a good actor.
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  Speaker 13: It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 8: I think he's a good actor.
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  Speaker 1: But he's adventurous. He really believes in... you know, pushing
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  Speaker 1: the limits of his ability and, you know, doing interesting things.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, interesting more than worried about his success and
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: career and money, because my favorite move was in the
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: middle of him. Like I think coming off the Oscar nomination,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: like the, probably the pinnacle of his career was, He also,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: on the side, started doing a daytime soap opera. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: That was genius, like the way he took that to
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  Speaker 8: the end. I think you lost.
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  Speaker 3: Your mind, but I'm okay with it because that is
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: the weirdest move I've ever seen, and that's kind of awesome.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably the coolest thing I've ever seen him do.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like the most what the fuck career move
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  Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Either that or he's just really open
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  Speaker 1: to suggestions. Because I think.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Someone suggested that it shouldn't be Seth Rogen. He needs
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: someone there going, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Calm down, dude. Don't get so excited. I was just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Probably not going to do that.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, he could have easily just gone the route
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: of pretty boy for his entire career. You know what
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: I mean?
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  Speaker 9: Pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: He still kind of held up.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: He didn't immediately.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you get that and you hit 29 and a
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: half and you hit the slalom and it's gone.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: So, like, he's hanging in there.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: He could still kind of be coasting on, now I'm
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: going to get the older pretty boy roles. Yeah.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like most 15-year-olds. Yeah, you know, he's getting up
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: there now real quick.
• 16:10
  Speaker 8: But I always thought that was interesting about him because,
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: I mean, just thinking about, like, you know, freaks and geeks,
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: it was like he was kind of the pretty boy,
• 16:18
  Speaker 8: the bad guy, Ben.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who really wasn't, as we find out. Yeah. He's
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: just a nerd like the rest of them.
• 16:24
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: But he did, didn't he play James Dean? Yeah, one
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: of those early, early movies. That was one of his first.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I still haven't seen that yet.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I heard the movie itself, again, I think it was
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: pretty limited budget, so I think it had other problems,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: but everything I've heard about his.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Performance was really good. Anyway. Yeah, so. Yeah, The Room.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: We don't need to discuss it anymore. That's kind of
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: what we landed on.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I will get the word from you guys before we
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: totally write it off.
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but I would totally recommend seeing it, especially if
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: you've seen that and Yes.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: If you've seen The Room and you haven't been to
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: one of the cult showings of The Room at a
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: theater or something. Have you ever done that? What?
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: Gone to one of the showings.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: And one with the co-host there. Wow.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one was probably more interesting. I went to
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the ones here that was just the showing of the movie,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: and it was fun. To me, it's just, again, I
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: went to Rocky Horror a million times, so it's that,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: only a new movie, which.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I guess we should do more often really. I don't
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: know why it took that long. Like we should find
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: more of those things to do.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: But then like doing it when, when we had the, the,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: you know, the co-star of the film there, like it
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: became a whole different thing because after the fact he
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: came up and did like a talk about the, again,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: everybody's kind of like, what, what? Like everybody has questions
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: like what the hell? And like he would.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Elaborate on that.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: And then the best part was he actually got, lines
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: from the original script which I don't think is very
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: different than the way they are in that movie but
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: from the room he has pages and then like brought
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: people up from the audience to recreate scenes from the
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: room and like it was one of the more entertaining
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: things I've seen at a live show before so yeah
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: that was awesome so if again if he's out there
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: on tour because he was going around doing that for
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of when the book first came out so
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: yeah if he's out there doing that again go see
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: it It was a lot of fun.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I did not hit her. I did not do it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: Oh, hi, Mark.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Classic.
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: Oh, hi.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, hi, Mark.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Hello, doggie.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It's still my favorite.
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: I didn't recognize you. Oh, hi, doggie.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, hi, doggie. I can't not laugh at oh, hi, doggie.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Probably because it's the most genuine thing.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Everything else is built around his insanity and his ego.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: But oh, hi, doggie just came out. Oh, hi, doggie.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: That's, oh, hi doggy.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: With that, I think we'll take our break and then
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: come back and get full into this week's project.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: Sounds like a plan. I need more coffee.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: You need more coffee? Why?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Where would you go to get more coffee? Why?
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: Heine Brothers? Do you need more coffee?
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: I do.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Where would I get some?
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: Perhaps from our house that has Heine Brothers.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: You probably got it like in a bag.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Directly from Heine Brothers. Which all of you should do.
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: They'll even grind it for you.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Do you feel it needs to be ground beforehand?
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: Yes, because I'm lazy.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I agree with that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: Especially when Paul's making it at six o'clock in the morning.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Coffee people get very hardcore about those rules of coffee.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: So everybody has a different take on that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: I get it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: I mean, but who wants to grind coffee at 6
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: o'clock in the morning? Or who wants to hear their
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: husband grinding coffee at 6 o'clock in the morning?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Now you're also frothing? Please make me a cappuccino.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to hear that at 6 a.m.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: while I'm doing it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, if I can avoid that. I think You know, really,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the way to do it is to, you know, just
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: pick an afternoon where you've got nothing going on, which
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen. But, you know, and then you just do, like,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: three bags in a row.
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: No, but the idea is it's... You want fresh. You've
• 20:23
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• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Fresh off the bean.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Which you can also get. Whole bean ground, you make
• 20:31
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• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I think you're kind of frothing it a little more.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I think you're cappuccino-ing things. Cappuccino-ing. I mean, it might
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: as well be like a sandblaster. I mean, that's what
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it sounds like, right? Because all those bean bits are
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: whipping up against the plastic lid. I mean, it sounds
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like you are stripping paint.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: So, you should just go and get yours pre-ground directly
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: at Honey Brothers.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: They'll ship it on out to you. Well, unless you've
• 22:03
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• 22:07
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• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm working on that. That's ideally what I want
• 22:11
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• 22:13
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• 22:15
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• 22:19
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• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Ask anyone who was brave enough to see Friday the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: 13th on Friday the 13th and they will tell you
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: they were terrified over and over and over and over.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: The 11th.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: The 12th.
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: The 13th.
• 22:51
  Speaker 13: Friday the 13th.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: We dare you to see this film all over London
• 22:55
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• 22:59
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• 23:02
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• 23:14
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• 23:22
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• 23:24
  Speaker 12: We're always broke.
• 23:26
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• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And yet we're trying to put this show together. Now
• 23:29
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• 23:32
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• 23:33
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• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Or instead, murder people. Are you just taking random money
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: out of their pockets? Well, yeah. Sometimes you got to
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: do what you got to do. Hopefully it won't come
• 23:48
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• 23:50
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• 23:53
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• 23:57
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• 24:10
  Speaker 9: Nobody cares.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't get a decoder ring. You're not part of
• 24:12
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• 24:16
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• 24:25
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• 24:37
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• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Titanium.
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: Really?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a step below.
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  Speaker 3: Aluminium levels.
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  Speaker 1: That's way below. Not if you say it fancy.
• 25:02
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• 25:04
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• 25:29
  Speaker 9: Priorities.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: And now, on with the show.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for you to make coffee. And then,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: at some point, he puts someone in a sleeping bag
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: and starts, like, whipping it around and just cracks it
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: into a tree.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Oh. There was a reboot of Friday the 13th? That
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: was a while ago. You are out of the loop.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Apparently.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I never really got into those.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: It rebooted and didn't happen all in one failed swoop.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I think I was going through puberty and I saw
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: one of the Friday the 13th movies where, you know,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the young teenage couple were going at it in a
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: cabin somewhere. In the woods? As they do.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: That's going to get them killed.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And, you know, and they were doing it and I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: could see everything.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: And then, you know.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Jason basically stabs, skewers both of them through the bed.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: You were watching the first one.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: That's the first one, yeah. And I believe one of
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: those people is Kevin Bacon. A young Kevin Bacon. Well,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I'll just take your word for it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: So that's just sort of, and I'm like, I don't
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: need to see this. I want to enjoy sex in
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the future that I haven't had yet with Kevin Bacon.
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: In the woods.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Or he might have gotten an arrow in the head.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I thought he got an arrow in
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the head. It's been a long time. But I think
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it is the first one where they both get skewered
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: through the bed. Yeah, I think so too.
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: It's like kind of an iconic.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, I think later he got the arrow
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: through the head.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So geeks, save your email. We already corrected it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't keep up with all those. Because it's
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: like they try to reboot it, then quit, then shh.
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: Shot it into space, literally.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I think they were shooting for 13 actual movies.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was the plan. And then the
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: rest of humanity moved on when they hit about 10.
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: Wasn't there one in space?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason X.
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: I didn't know if I was making that up.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: No, they always, horror always goes to space eventually. They all,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: every franchise.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Case in point, Leprechaun. Moonraker.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Leprechaun or Moonraker. Kind of the same movie, really, if
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: you stop and think about it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: What's the Clive Barker one?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hellraiser 4 was in space.
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that was in space.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: The fourth one usually goes to space.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: Oh, that's an intriguing thing. What about Die Hard? They
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: didn't go to space for the fourth one. Was it
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: Lethal Weapon?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: I think everyone tuned out by four.
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: In space. So Paul won't watch Lethal Weapon with me, okay?
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: It's a Christmas movie.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, right behind Die Hard is one of my
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Christmas classics.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I love Die Hard.
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: See, I think Lethal Weapon is a Christmas classic as well.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I think Die Hard is great.
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: It is.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: You can't, I mean, you really like, even, I know
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: now it's just become, huh, it's a fun action movie,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: but I'm like, structurally.
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: It's kind of a perfect action-themed movie.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: It really is a perfect action movie.
• 29:28
  Speaker 12: It is.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: It's so good. I mean, you've got a hero who's alone.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: You know, risking life and limb because he's doing his duty.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: A patriot as well as a, you know. Plus a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: guy doing a lot of coke.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: So, you know, it's got everything you need from an
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: 80s flick.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Shoulder pads.
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: It's got shoulder pads.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Don't forget shoulder pads and big hair. You leave Barney
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Bedelia out of this.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, Bonnie? I'm talking about all the men. Oh, yeah.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: So that is actually a good, although before we totally leave,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I think you should watch Lethal Weapon. I think the
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: first one, actually those first two are pretty solid.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: The second one is alright. I still like the third one.
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: I don't have a problem with the Lethal Weapon franchise.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I don't even remember if I made it to the fourth.
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: I don't even know if there's a fourth.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: There is a fourth. It was a while ago too.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: But definitely the first two are pretty solid. And even
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: the third for me, I liked adding another. They kept
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: adding characters I think is almost the shooting themselves.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: In the face. I liked the first Lethal Weapon up
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to the point where Mel Gibson decided to not shoot himself.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: You wanted him to shoot himself. And then I was like.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Because now everyone would kind of be okay with that.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Because he's not the most beloved character. You know, that
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: was the interesting part. He was really struggling and then
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it's just like, I guess I'm over it now.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's most of that first movie, though.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I think you might have a problem then with the
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: second one. Because the second one, they're trying to play
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: that same... dynamic except he's not really suicidal anymore so
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: it kind of diffuses that a little bit but it's
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: just the whole thing put a bad taste in my
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: mouth but gary bucey yeah the fine acting skills of
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: a less crazy he's an excellent villain he's good at
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: being crazy also in the real world also in movies
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: in real life.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Under siege Oh, God. Steven Seagal.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: I wish that was a Christmas movie because I would
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: watch that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Just hold a tree up in front of the screen
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: while you're watching it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: So bad. No.
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: Tommy Lee Jones.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones. There we go. Thank you. I was
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: still distracted by the earlier story.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: So actually these lead into this week's idea, which was
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: so much fun last time when we had our run
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: earlier this past year. And if you guys at home
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: weren't listening then, what were you thinking? So go back
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: and listen to that first one because it's awesome. But
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: as we did our remake roundabout, we went through and
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: we picked movies and we came up with many options.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite part of this game is there's almost
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: no rules to it. We would pick a title and
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: then we'd follow it through and we'd be like, okay,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: what's the best way to remake this even.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: If you shouldn't?
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: What's the worst way we could remake this? What's the
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: best casting? What's horrible casting? What's typical Hollywood casting? So
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: we just kind of, again, it's a very loose structure
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: as this game goes. So I thought we enjoyed that
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: quite a bit last time. We didn't even want to
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: stop as I remember it. So this is the continuation.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I love the remake. Remake roundabout two. colon the next
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: day so.
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: Colon the next day where.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Now i was thinking as you said that okay that's
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: why i said it's a good lead-in horrible idea what
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: if they decided to remake.
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: Die hard i now did i dream okay this is
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: another one of these did i dream this things because
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: i think we talked about it while we were watching
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: it were they talking about remaking it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Well they just kept slowly, after the first three, and
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: then every once in a while, I was like, oh,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: we're going to do a fourth one. We're finally going
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: to do a fourth one. And then they did a
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: fourth one. And then they're like, oh, we're going to
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: do a fifth one, even though kind of nobody wants one.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody cares.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: They did a fifth one. So they just kept dragging
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: it out to the next and the next, and they
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: were supposed to do another one last I heard.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it totally got scrapped. Is the plan, yeah.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I remember reading that there's supposed to be a new one.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: But are they trying to introduce a new John McClane. Yeah,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: because of the son. Yeah, they brought his son. Younger
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: John Jr.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm more of a fan of the daughter, but
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: they were kind of... That last movie was mostly him
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: and the son, so I thought maybe they were passing
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: the mantle.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Let's discuss this first, if I may.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: If you.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: If you were in the boardroom at the production house
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and you were trying to make the argument for remaking
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Die Hard. That's why I like this game. You're forced
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: to play the wrong side of your own. Yeah. What
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: are the reasons why you would need to remake it? Like,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: you know, modernize it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, that's the usual. Yeah. That's
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: the go-to.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: But what really is not modern about that movie? Shoulder pads. Yeah.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: We've got to get rid of those damn shoulder pads.
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: Mr.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Takagi's got shoulder pads. Bonnie's got shoulder pads. The kids
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: have shoulder pads. He's just ripped.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Those are just his big ass shoulders.
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: The stuffed bear had shoulder pads.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Everybody's got shoulder pads.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: And a cell phone that's the size of your forearm.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: A brick.
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: With an antenna um so.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: But aside from that that's usually their go-to is this
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: is you know a weird 80s version of the business
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: world so now let's make it the modernized version which
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: i feel like really isn't all that different especially because
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: it doesn't focus on that it's i mean we the
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: business comes to an end almost that first scene it's
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: a party it's a it's an empty building most of
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the time so We kind of lose the business end
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: of it because there are ones I can see.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: There's a limo in it. People still drive limos.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: There's a giant teddy bear.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: They still have those.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: That stuff doesn't get in the way and that's why
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: it's almost like a classic because it does have things
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: that mark whatever time it's from, like the bigger phones,
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: but you kind of don't even, like it could be
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: an iPhone.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: It still kind of works. You can opt in.
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: Go ahead.
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: Well, I was going to say the real.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Like Structurally, it makes no difference, but there are not
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: really any German terrorists anymore. I mean, there are, but
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: it's not really a threat.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: But studios usually want to shy away from anyone that
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: we really could, because we just saw that with, speaking of.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Remakes, the Red Dawn remake.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: They had a real threat and then realized, oh, but
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: we make money over there.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't do that.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: They went back and literally went back and digitally changed flags,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: redubbed things. Like they changed it in ridiculous ways just
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: to make money and not even, I don't even think
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: they worried about offending people. I think it was just
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: because this is a huge market and we can sell
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: it over there if we're not making them.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: The bad guy.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: And you don't have to make the... If you did
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: a reboot of it, you wouldn't have to make them terrorists.
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: They'd just be people that were trying to.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Eco-terrorists?
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Get money, whatever.
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: You can take that totally out of it. But you're
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: selling the idea that... Or the criminals are selling the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: idea that they're terrorists, even though you find out that
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: they're not. That's fine and all, but you have to
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: sell that idea to the audience. So what What would
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: they be? Southern guys dressed up as Colonel Sanders?
• 37:18
  Speaker 12: Yeah!
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: We're going to take over this building.
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah!
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Shotgun, shotgun. And make some good damn chicken in the process.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: We're here to steal the secret recipe.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Hey, wait.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I'd watch this. Can we get Norm MacDonald involved? Because
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I'm on board now.
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: Die hard, but set in a KFC.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: What's your herbs and spices list?
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: It's in the pulse.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: It's in the pulse.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: We cross over with sudden death. So they break into
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: the Yum Center. Okay, that doesn't play outside of this town.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: Right, right.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: That's the KFC business that owns everything. And they open
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: in a giant arena-type building. So sudden death.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Come on. Jean-Claude Van Damme people, get on board.
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: They wanted to name it The Bucket.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I thought I just wanted to call it that.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Because I kind of did for a while. You want
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to go down to... At least it wasn't The Chum Bucket.
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: The Bucket?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: That's what it's become. It's become a chum bucket. There
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: goes our young funding.
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: We don't have sharks.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: So anyway, modernizing, what's the argument to modernizing?
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: But let's get to the fun part. Who would you cast?
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: See?
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: You can come up with any crazy thing to make
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: a reason to make it like or what goes on.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I was going back over our previous one and I
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: kind of went to the same thing I did last time.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: So like if I get it out of the way now,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: are we going to not be able to play this
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: card the whole rest of the night? Because like anytime
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's a terrible idea.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: And then you throw in. Dwayne Johnson, and I'm like,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: damn it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: Oh, God.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I'd watch that.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Yes. So now I'm like, I don't think it fits
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: because the whole reason that first, and four and five
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: do not count, but just specifically the reason that first
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Die Hard works so well is he's not an action star.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: He's not the size of The Rock. He's an average dude.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: He's a regular, average dude who just happens to be
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: a cop.
• 39:05
  Speaker 12: He was on Moonlighting.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: And he's, like, too damn hard-headed to quit. It's not
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: because he's ripped. It's not because he's in shape. It's
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: not because he can beat up the other guys. It's
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: because he just won't stop. And, like, he's just too
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: hard-headed to do it. And, like, that's what makes that.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: First one so damn good. I totally agree.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: So, like, if you put somebody, again, that's why, because
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: that came about.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Right in the middle of, you know, Schwarzenegger and Stallone.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Movies And I think everybody responded to, no, no, no,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: this one's great because.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have that guy in it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Because at that point in particular, Bruce Willis wasn't in shape.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: So like, it's kind of awesome because of that. So
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: even at the time, like had they cast.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: One of those guys, I feel like that wouldn't work.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: So if we go into that now, like, does that
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: completely negate the whole selling point of this story?
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: What about is huge? A woman is the lead character.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Ah, modernizing it there. There you go.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Now that would be interesting and I'd watch it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: But then I feel as a woman, when that happens
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: in movies, I'm like, yeah, yeah. It's like they just
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: picked a woman because they wanted to make it a
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: woman's thing.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: It could be good.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, it totally could.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Because you're dealing with a whole different, you know, series
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: of risks, you know. Some of them are the same, but,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: you know. Barefoot women also bleed from the feet.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Just so you know.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So, who, you know.
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I think that hinges on the casting. Like, if you
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: bought who that was. Like, if you get in there and, like,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: whoever they choose is so damn good that you're like,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I don't care that it was a gimmick to get
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: us back in here.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: It worked, you know.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: So, I think that is... Now, that was the fun
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: angle last time is we involved with that computer and
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: we went to random casting.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Would you like.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: To return to the old random casting and see what
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: it pulls up?
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm trying to think of a woman. You
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: work on a real one, but I liked our randomizer.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: You don't even need to call it Die Hard. You
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: could just use it. I mean, they do it all
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the time. You don't use the same name. You just
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: make the same story, put a woman in there as
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: John McClane. Well, I've said that for years, and I
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: think even on the last episode I said it. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: was like, stop trying to brand something with the title,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: because all you do is piss off the old fans.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: And new fans probably didn't know what the old one
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: was anyway. Just steal the idea and make your own story.
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: I know this is going to sound crazy, but I
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: kind of like her. Paula Patton.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. What else has she
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: been in?
• 41:41
  Speaker 11: Warcraft.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Warcraft. Oh, see, nobody's seen that.
• 41:44
  Speaker 9: Oh, my God.
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: That was David Bowie's son who also did Moon.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Moon is awesome.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I've heard different stories about the old.
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: But I like her because she's, like, womanly and.
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: She's not a terrible actress, but she could pull that
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: off because you would think, like, well, who's this grown-ass
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: woman that's not, you know, some.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, wait. What's the... Captain Phasma? What's that chick's name?
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: She's from Game of Thrones.
• 42:15
  Speaker 10: What?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Captain Phasma. Oh, for the love of God.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I thought you liked Star Wars.
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: Oh, Gwendolyn Christie.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: She's huge. Like, you could almost buy her beating people up.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: But why get a huge woman?
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: I'm saying that if you want somebody that you believe
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: could pull off the physicality of it.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: But I'd rather somebody that was, like, believable but not
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: for sure.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Because my other one, well, that's my go-to for any casting.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I want Sandra Bullock in everything. So can I see
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Sandra Bullock? Miss Congeniality 3, Nakatomi Towers.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: She also did Judge Dredd, where she also played a cop.
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, that's right.
• 42:53
  Speaker 11: No.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was a terrible movie. Wasn't Judge Dredd?
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: No. Because Judge Dredd is pretty bad. She's in Demolition Man.
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: Oh, that's it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Which I feel like is a pretty damn new thing.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Demolition Man.
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: I like when they go to Taco Bell and it's fancy.
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's great.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: That is the future as far as I'm concerned.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: So I like Demolition Man. And she's a good portion
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: of why.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I was like, if we're going with, you
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: want somebody kind of current and buff that's a woman,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: you can go the first way. I don't think you
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: have to go buff. No, I mean, for the same
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: reason as the Bruce Willis thing. Yeah.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Let me go with the old randomizer here
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and see what it says. Yeah, these are terrible choices
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: so far.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: Who'd you get?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: My best option out of these, Mila Kunis.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm not buying it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: That's too close to life.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Or Anne Hathaway.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: I can almost see her pulling it off.
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's interesting. Because you're like, what?
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Natalie Portman came up all the time in the last one,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: so I'm kind of throwing her out.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know people or things.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: And Oprah Winfrey's definitely not the right choice because she
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: also came up on here. So, let me roll the
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: dice again.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: What else does it come up with?
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: I mean, she's like this woman.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I could believe her. Okay. Paula Patton.
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I could believe her.
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: She was married to Robin Thicke, that poor, poor woman.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Now she's aging out, but back in the day, had
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: they done this, Angelina Jolie would have been given that role.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: She would have just gotten the role for no reason.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: She kind of would have pulled it off.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Like, as much as She's still kind of overblown.
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: Like, she is good.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Like, she's still.
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: I just can't.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's still a thing. There's still something
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: that keeps her at arm's length from me. But I'm like,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I still have to respect her? Like, she continues to, like,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: put out stuff and... Speaking of people challenging themselves, now
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: she's directing and doing weird artsy movies that nobody would
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: have ever assumed that Laura Croft would be making. So, yeah,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: it's really weird, her choices.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Over the years. But yeah, I feel like now they
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: would not give that to her because she's like a grown-up.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: She's a mom of 28 or whatever she is now.
• 45:05
  Speaker 12: All right, so.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: We're ignoring the very obvious choice. If they were going
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: to do it, they'd just give it to Jennifer Lawrence,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: who did just come up on this list.
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's too easy.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: That's who the first name on the list would be.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: And she'd be like, no. God, but she'd be really
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: good in it. She kind of would be. She'd be
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: really good in it. Come on. She kind of would.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: She would own that.
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: I know, but is it like, how is that? any
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: different than like.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Everything else she gets stuck in?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Some of which are good.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Some of which are bad. Sometimes there's some weird things
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: she ends up in.
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: Okay, so then who would you cast as Hans Gruber?
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Ooh, that is a good one.
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: Or the Hans Gruber.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: The modern day Hans. You have to recast Hans. Hans.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I love Hans Gruber. So... Yeah, I mean, who would you.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Ho.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Motherfucker. Do we want to hear who else is on
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: this list here? Yeah, sure. For the women? Well, this
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: has both.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: So this was the other half of that same list.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, gotcha. As John McClane?
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: Well, no.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I was just doing his Hans.
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Hans.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I was doing Hans.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: The other half of this is guys, so I was like, okay,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: let's throw out these.
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, let's find Hans.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Do we assume they're still going to have to do
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the accent, though?
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: No, no, no.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Because they're all American-ish.
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The only one with an accent, it does bring
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: up Schwarzenegger, which I feel like stunt casting, they would
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: want to do. Yeah.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I say no, but nobody listens to me. You need
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: a proper villain. So... Americans love... Yeah, these are all like.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Villain with an accent. These are all leading men kind
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: of people.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Brad Pitt.
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: I don't... Michael Fassbender.
• 46:55
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: He has no problem leaning into villain.
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: He does it well.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: And can do a good accent and... He has an accent.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: He gets rid of it most of the time and
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: pulls off American really convincingly. So I think you're on
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: to something. The only other one I was going to
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: think Mads Mikkelsen.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty good option. That's a really good one.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty good option.
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: I love him.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: That's way better than the Ben Affleck they randomize her, bro.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: He's just a villain.
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: To me, he's just a villain. Like, you can cast
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: anything as a Ben Affleck. He's an awesome hero, too.
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: I don't like Ben Affleck.
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: I can't. I don't know why.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Ben Affleck. You're talking about Mads Mikkelsen.
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: Mads Mikkelsen is.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: He's an awesome villain and hero. I think he's sort
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: of a perfect anti-hero. I was going to say both
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: of those guys work as that. Because, yeah, Michael Fassbender
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: can play that, too. He can be a villain, but
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: he's a villain that you start going, well.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: He's got his reasons. Yeah, you're like, eh. Maybe he's
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: not so terrible. Okay, he just killed that dude.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: But before that, he didn't seem so terrible.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I don't know. Well. So... I hope they
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: don't do it. I'll just say that.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: That was usually our takeaway from all of.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: These, but we still talk about it.
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: Do we talk about.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Because the odds are against us.
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Eventually they'll run out and remake everything. Eventually Bruce will.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Be 90 or kick off or whichever, and they'll have
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: to keep making money off of that title. When will
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: they not keep making money off of a very recognizable title?
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: So... It might happen somewhere down the line.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I think it would be hard to do while he's
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: still around. Unless he's involved. Unless they do.
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: Has some weird cameo.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Well, unless it's the same thing. Unless it's the dad.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Pass the torch scenario.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I'm passing the torch kind of thing.
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but what kind of shit luck would that be
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: that your dad got into all this trouble and you
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: ended up getting into.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: All this trouble too?
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it becomes ridiculous by the second movie
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: where he even calls himself out for like, I think
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: you better be the same guy. I think possibly or
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I hope that Hollywood has already learned that lesson with
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Indiana Jones.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Just thinking about. I was like him being involved, trying
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: to pass the torch. It didn't happen. It didn't work.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: But that's exactly what they wanted to do. And they
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: went with the it boy of the moment, which very
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: quickly he shot himself in the foot.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: And now nobody likes him. But there were problems. There
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: are obviously with that script. Oh yeah.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: And I think there's still moments of it. Like I, I,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: I remember I got it because I was like, at
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: some point I'm going to want to sit down and
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: watch it again. I don't know if I've gotten to
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: that yet.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: And I've had it for years.
• 49:33
  Speaker 8: We tried.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like I want, there's things about it
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I do like.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I just, there's so much other things. stuff and it's
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: hard to write it off because everybody was just like
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: oh it's so ridiculous and they would name off all
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: these ridiculous things that happen and i'm like did.
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: You see the first three movies because.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Like i didn't really think about it at the time
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: i was a kid and i'm like this is the
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: most awesome thing ever and then later i started like
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: listing things that happened in all three of those first
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: three movies i'm like that yeah i mean that's equally
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: as ridiculous as the fridge and the monkeys and the.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: All of it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you want to... I don't know what the
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: difference is because I'm like, it's just as ridiculous, really,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: but there's something about the first three that don't rub
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: me the wrong way like that fourth one.
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: Because everybody hates Nazis.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: But.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: right soviets were a really good i thought for them
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: to bump ahead a little bit i was like yeah
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: for americans nazis soviets we don't care it's the same
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: thing it's.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: The cold war era that made sense i agree but
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the whole alien twist thing they i think that's what
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: really the script was actually written in the 90s they
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: just delayed putting it out.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: It kind of was i think yeah So, I mean,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: it totally would have flown in the 90s.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Probably.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: In the middle of the X-Files craze.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. If they also put that out. Absolutely. I
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: can see that. It totally would have flown.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And people would have been like, oh, yeah, aliens are great.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: That's great. And Harrison Ford would have still looked the part.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Gruff and angry.
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: So, I don't know. That's a tough one. Yeah, it
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: really is.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: It's crap.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: It's a crap movie.
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: It is crap. I just can't do it again. We've
• 51:16
  Speaker 8: tried and I can't do it again. And that refrigerator scene,
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: I'm sorry, that's just.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I still like that moment, though.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Coming to and realizing you're in the middle of what
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: is going to be a nuclear test site is a
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: great moment. Like, they just didn't find the way out
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: of it that worked. But like that first time in
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: the theater, I was like, I saw the dummies and went,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: oh shit. Like, I realized where it was and I'm like,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: that was a great realization for the audience for the
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: character so i'm like that dynamic's great just find a
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: better way to fix the ending because that's ridiculous yeah
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: it really was ridiculous yeah but that again i think
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: there's so many good things along the way that somehow
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: they just took a left turn and we're just like
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: whoops we screwed that up moving on to the next
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: scene like there's just a lot of times when that
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: happens all.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Right so Bad taste in my mouth there. Bad dates.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Bad dates. Bad dates. So do we need more titles
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: as well?
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: But, you know, the theme could be, you know, because
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I think we've discussed this in the past week, non-conventional,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: non-traditional Christmas movies. So we've already discussed Die Hard. We have.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: We can continue on that road.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: We've discussed Lethal Weapon.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: Fine.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Reluctantly, we've discussed Lethal Weapon. Yes, yes.
• 52:44
  Speaker 8: Well, you know what's crazy is when you start to
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: look at the list of movies that we've talked about,
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: and you're like, God, there's so many movies. Although, there's
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: only certain ones that stick out in my mind, right? Like,
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: so would recasting fix something that you've totally forgotten about,
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: you know?
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: This is one of those, and it fits for two reasons.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Number one, because it's a holiday movie through and through.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Number two, because I just went off on a rant
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: about it on Facebook. So I'm assuming maybe somebody out
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: there saw it. It actually got a lot of comments
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: because I went and physically took a photo myself of
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: the giant billboard on the side of the road advertising
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Home Alone 2 as a.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Big, like, blockbuster tie-in for a certain, again, not the
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: previously mentioned chicken company.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: We're fine with them.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: This was some other fly-by-night chicken industry. And their big
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: holiday movie tie-in push was Home Alone 2, colon, Lost
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: in New York. Which I thought, again, if you read
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: my rant, I'm just like.
• 53:55
  Speaker 12: Number one, what?
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: It's 25 years later. Why are you picking this movie?
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: Did you time travel?
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: And second of all, if you're going to go with
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: a weird themed thing, I don't.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Love the first one.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: I don't really even like the first one, but at
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: least most people would still consider it a holiday classic.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I'm using quotes here.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: It's considered by a lot of people a classic holiday movie.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: The second one? I was like, what the hell?
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: It was probably the cheaper one.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: So it was. Maybe they got cheaper licensing.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: It is the silver anniversary, so... But, yeah, so that
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: all aside, I just wanted to bitch about that one
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: more time because I think it's ridiculous.
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: I've never seen Home Alone or Home Alone 2, just
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: to put this out there.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: You've never seen the first one?
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: No.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: What the hell is wrong?
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I don't even like it.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I've seen it.
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: It looks stupid.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: It is stupid. That's the thing.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: I'm one of the people that was just like, nope,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: this is an annoying kid movie and I don't like it.
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no thanks.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people were totally on board. So
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I know I'm in the minority, but I'm
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: just like, I don't care.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Well, there's a period there where
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I think you can root for Joe Pesci, right?
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Don't we all really? But then you're let down because
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: he loses it all.
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, while we're on it.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Including his hair.
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: I would like to discuss, who is it, Nissan that's
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: selling Star Wars or Star Wars is selling Nissan?
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: There is a fancy car that plays the Star Wars
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: theme and there's a Ray Light girl driving it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: Why?
• 55:24
  Speaker 8: It's crazy.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Have you not come to terms with the fact that
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: things run by money?
• 55:29
  Speaker 11: No!
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Giant truckloads of money come to your house and they
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: drop them off and you're like.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, glad I sold that. Have a rogue.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Truthfully, I have no problem with that.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Because that's what funds everything.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: If we didn't get, Star Wars is hard to make
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: that example because it's already a money-making machine, but with
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff, it's like, if you don't get,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: you know, it's the same thing of your favorite weekly
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: TV show. It's like, If the dumb commercials that you
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: ignore and leave the room and now fast forward through
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: and all of the above weren't there, you wouldn't have
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: your show. So, I mean, like to me, it's a
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: necessary evil that I overlook. So I'm like, my only upside.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: It's part of the modern industry process.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: It's my only upside is occasionally they come up with
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: one that I actually like.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm like that. commercial actually was kind.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Of creative and well written for a 30 minute commercials.
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: Though that it's the the like the tie-ins that are
• 56:23
  Speaker 8: so gross and it's not product placement because i get
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: product placement i'd rather see somebody drinking a coke than
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: like a fake thing where you go it's supposed to
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: be a coke right loke hello loke localola yeah i mean.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: L-O-L-A. L-O-L-A. L-O-L-A.
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: I don't mind that.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: There are times when it works.
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: I hate it when it's glaring.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. When it's obvious that, like Thor, as he
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: smashes through the IHOP. I'm like, oh, subtle. Okay.
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: But.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: When they're detracting from the integrity of the actor slash
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: musician slash.
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, whatever.
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: It's just like, okay.
• 57:01
  Speaker 11: I get it.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: I get it. It's like Sting selling Jaguars.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of room in the back to do
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: tantric stuff, man. That's why I choose it.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: And a Jaguar?
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. The new luxury Jaguar with the
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: tantric edition.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: You're thinking of Cadillac. And yes, it is true. You
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: can fit a lot in the back of a Cadillac.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: If Cadillac wants to get a hold of me for
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: these plugs, I'm fine with that.
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: A Ford 500 that I've seen a lot of lately
• 57:32
  Speaker 8: for some reason.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 57:34
  Speaker 8: Why is that? And they're old.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Or the Chrysler 300.
• 57:37
  Speaker 8: I see a lot of Chrysler 300s, but for some
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: reason last week I kept seeing Ford 500s, which they
• 57:42
  Speaker 8: haven't made in I don't know how long.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Or a BMW X3 if you're a drug dealer.
• 57:48
  Speaker 8: Okay, so let me go back to the Star Wars
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: commercial with the Nissan.
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 57:51
  Speaker 10: Why?
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: I get it.
• 57:53
  Speaker 8: Like they paid them a bajillion dollars.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: End of story.
• 57:56
  Speaker 8: But it just cheapens everything. It even makes me not
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: want to own a Nissan because it's so gross. I mean,
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: not that I'd want to own a Nissan... Anyway, I'm
• 58:03
  Speaker 8: a Mazda gal.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: But if that's the point, then you can't have anything.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: At this point, it's so intertwined with our special filmmaking.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: You can't have anything at all anymore.
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: Here's another great episode idea. Pick the product and put.
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: It with the movie.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: That's actually a great... That ties in with what I
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: was about to say, which is... I'm cleaning that down now. Clearly,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Nissan knows its demographic.
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: Is that.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Well, at this point... Do you like Star Wars movies?
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: Done.
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: No.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Do you like Nissans?
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: No.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: So, once again, you're the minority. Everyone else in the
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: world likes Star Wars.
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: We need to do like a man on the street
• 58:46
  Speaker 8: interview of Nissan drivers and be like, do you like
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: Star Wars?
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I think that that's not a bad idea.
• 58:51
  Speaker 8: Do you like Star Wars?
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: No.
• 58:54
  Speaker 8: You don't even know what Star Wars is? Why are
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: you driving a Nissan?
• 58:57
  Speaker 10: Why?
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: They've done the study that basically ties, you know, 30
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: to 50 year olds that are, you know, in. suburbia
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: buying cars and they want a reliable Japanese made vehicle
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: that is not uber expensive Toyota.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: But this is actually really a smart commercial because if
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: you watch it, you'll notice it's the older that guy
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: in that demographic teaching the young daughter who looks a
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: lot like Ray to drive. So you're also suckering in
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: this whole new generation of young boys and girls now
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: that are just like, oh, that's cool because That Ray
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: girl wants to drive a Nissan, so I want to
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: drive it.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Or you're speaking to the dad who has a kid
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: and is going to pass down a car.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Instead of handing her a lightsaber, instead I'm going to
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: hand her a Nissan.
• 59:55
  Speaker 12: Well, the keys anyway.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: No, I want the whole car.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: He's got a robot hand.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: He can do that. He's going to force hand her.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: And she will stop it because Ray is all powerful.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: But... yeah i mean there's a lot of that's why
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: i agree that that that makes a ton of sense
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: that's why because you i don't own a nissan i mean.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: And you're also with the mazda route you're also appealing
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: to the dad for like this is a great safe
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: vehicle to hand to your you know 16 year old
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: daughter that's gonna keep her like they're really playing the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: like conventional safety issue thing if they're trying to pitch
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: it to a kid learning to drive.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Safe, reliable. And the older dad that grew.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 12: Up in that generation.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I think it hits all of the points.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: I totally get it. I get it. And I mean,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: that all didn't escape me, but it's still gross. It
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: still leaves a bad taste in my mouth is what
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: I'm saying.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Damn hippie.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: I understand how it works, what it is, why they
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 8: do it.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: Don't sell out to the man.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: But it's like, God.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: Local Lola.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I get it, but... I don't... Like, to me, it is.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: It's a necessary evil. If it gets me more Star
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Wars movies, eh. I'll ignore it like every other commercial.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 8: Those movies make more money than the.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Gross national product of a lot of countries. That's not
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: a good example. But I feel like with a lot
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: of other movies, the only way they get funding, again,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: it's a weird system at work because you get films
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: that they'll make for $ 500 million and then they'll spend
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: another $ 500 million on the advertising that if these companies
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: don't go along, It's not going to get the advertising,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: so in turn, they're not going to greenlight the movie. So,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, all those deals are made, especially in the blockbusters,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: well before the movie is made. So, it really, like, again,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like, yes, it's all a gross system, but
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: it's the whole system at this point.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: So, it doesn't make it right, Brian. It's still gross.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: But it makes it necessary.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Doesn't make it right.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Doesn't make it necessary. Unless you just want to watch
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: indie movies that still got money from somebody.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's true.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Like you all, I mean, movies freaking cost a fortune
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: to make.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: It's true. So you watch a little. Unless you're telling
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: me why it's so.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: It still costs a lot of money to make.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: But again, you look at, yeah, you look at those
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollar movies. Look at the end of the
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: credits there and they roll off a ton of people
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: that threw money at them. And I've, seen that a
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: lot lately going to these film festivals and listening to
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: guys tell this story of like how they talked friends
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: into giving them money and like a lot of it
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: comes from.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah I guess I'm just a dirty hippie.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Well exactly you know yeah it's true not that you're
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: a dirty hippie we all agree you're a damn dirty
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: hippie no no no that's the business.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 8: Of I know and it's incredibly naive of me to
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 8: think that It doesn't have to be that way, but
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 8: it doesn't mean I have to like it, but it
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 8: makes me hate both things equally.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Well, it becomes distasteful to another demographic, if I can
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: lump you into that.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: Which one is that?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: The kind that are looking for something to have integrity.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. It's not the world we
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: live in. Certainly not in Hollywood, especially not today. Certainly
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: not in Hollywood. What a world do we live in?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like asking for someone to have integrity
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: in Washington, D.C. It just does not happen.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: Just don't.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: It doesn't happen. It's a dirty, messed up world.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 9: I agree.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: That having been said, I'm going to pick another movie.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, sorry.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: We got totally derailed.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: We got sidetracked on grimy advertising, but it all applies
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: And once again, that's kind of how the game.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 9: I got one.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: That's how the game goes because last time we also
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: went on mini tangents.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 12: So, all right.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: I've got one in mind, but what is yours?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 8: Well, because I hate Ben Affleck. No offense to Ben Affleck.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with Ben, but go ahead.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: What if you had to redo Good Will Hunting?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 12: Hmm.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Why that one?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 8: I don't know because it's really good. Because that is
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: kind of like a weird one to think about.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: So you're okay with Matt, but not me?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I like Matt.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: That's weird.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 9: I don't know why.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: They're bestest of friends.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: I'm okay with Matt, not with the Affleck.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the Bourne Identity series.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 12: Well, not the last one.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: I was starting to say, the last two?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: But the first one was great.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: But because it's not a movie that you would think
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: about remaking as like a blockbuster. That's true. But more
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: and more of those are getting remade.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: There's so many I've seen in the last 20 years.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, wait, I got remade?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: How did that get remade? How did that get remade?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: That was fine the first time around.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: So who becomes... Matt Damon. Who becomes Ben Affleck?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 8: You know, I think the thing I would probably care
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: about the most is who gets cast as the teacher.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's kind of pivotal.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: It seems like by the description of the story that
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: it would be Matt Damon, but when you watch it,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: it really is kind of Robin Williams.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you could pick two kids from Stranger
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: Things and that would be fine. You know, like just
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 8: throw them in.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: That's going to be our go-to for any child involved.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 8: The kids from Stranger Things.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: They're good.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: They're solid.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 9: Pick the girl.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: There's your twist. Give her everything.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she's in it.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: That chick is amazing.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 8: So who would you cast as that pivotal role? Because
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: that's the weird thing.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: It just brought it up, but what about this?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: For flipping it around, Ben Affleck is the teacher now.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 8: I hate Ben Affleck.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: He's an old man.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: How about.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: He's got gray hair.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 12: He's the teacher.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: How about Matt Damon? He's the teacher. And it was
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: actually good.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 8: The account was good.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: I'll give you that.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 8: How about Matt Damon? There you go.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Just put Matt Damon in there.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Okay. He could do an old guy teacher much better
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: than Ben Affleck could.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 9: Well, no, no.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: See, that's the thing.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: To me, like, Matt's fine in that movie, but, like,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Ben has one scene, and it's the, maybe, I mean, again,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: Robin Williams aside, it may be the best thing in
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: the movie. That one little speech he gives him before
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: he walks into work is.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: better than what and again.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: It's writing why the hell are you here that but
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: yeah that like yeah that whole speech.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 8: How do you like these apples or whatever.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: That's matt damon that's why matt's out of this deal
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: already that apple's nonsense he's gone the best part.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: Of talking about movies with me is on this is
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: that i get everything so totally screwed.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Up so it's like i'm sure everyone has noticed i could.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: Be anybody's mom just imagine that i'm anybody's mom talking
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: about movies.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: You know, the one with that boy from the TV show.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: I think he has a mustache.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: You know, that one.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: He's got two arms and two legs, that guy.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: He wears the round glasses with the mustache.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 9: Oh, Bobby.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: I am not anyone's mom.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: But you are essentially.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: Essentially, I can be. I'm the every mom.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: So let's break apart Robin Williams, you know. Would it
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: be another comedian?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you go- Who is also dramatic? At
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: this point- Marc Maron.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 9: Marc Maron!
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: No, see, I was just thinking, and this is something
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: that's going to pain me to say, but I feel
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: like it's probably what they would do now because I
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: hated his TV show and most of his performance, but
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: these days, people love serious Ray Romano.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I could almost see that going down now. Yeah.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: That last movie he's gotten great stuff for.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: People like Ray Romano.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: His last two TV series he's gotten great reviews. Everyone's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: kind of like, wow, he's actually an actor. I didn't
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: like that TV show at all. It pains me to
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: say it, but I feel like that's where it would
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: go if we're doing Comedian.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 8: What if you redid it as sort of like a
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: Curb Your Enthusiasm episode?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: So we're casting him as the older man. Yeah, let's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: cast Larry David as the teacher.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: I don't like what you're doing here. It's a little
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: over the top.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: My wife's dead, so, you know, I get a lot
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: of sympathy from people.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 9: Pretty, pretty, pretty.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: She's pretty dead.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: She's dead.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: And I get my way a lot because people feel
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: sorry for me.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: And I exploit that is what I'm telling you.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: No, I think you're right.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Get a dead wife is my advice.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 12: To you, kid.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: I think you're right on the Ray Romano.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: No?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I think that you're dead wrong. I didn't say it
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: was right. I feel like that's what they would go with.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that that would be a mistake.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Because I just... Don't think it would be the right...
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: He's likable.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Do you have a better comedian that's made a serious
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: turn as of late?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: What about The Rock?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Well... There you go.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: It's not an action role.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I was going to say.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: Serious Rock?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: We need to get to Serious Rock.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Louis C.K.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Did make a serious turn recently, but not a good one. Well,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. Up until a month or
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: two ago, I think.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: yeah i would i would agree like that would be
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: a great casting move because he everything in the real
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: world aside he could do serious on screen and people
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: bought it and up until recently people liked him and
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: like it all would have worked up until the real
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: world kicked in and he outed himself for being horrible
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: so yeah and now.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: He's probably going to Drink himself into oblivion.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Everyone in Hollywood is going to drink themselves into oblivion.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: And good for them, because it's about damn time all.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 12: This came about.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people have been making these remakes.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: So we're going to have all female cast in all
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: of our remakes.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: Or we'll just all sexually harass ourselves.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: You know, like, that's the new Hollywood, is South Dakota.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Out of the Nissan dealership that's there. The one Nissan dealership.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: I thought if we're moving down, it was just Georgia anyway.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: That's true. Atlanta has taken over.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: It has. Atlanta is where it's at. It's either Georgia
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: or Ireland. The entire country of Ireland making movies.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: So yeah, what do you have? Sorry, I totally derailed
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: you with your movie.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Everyone that came up on the randomizer is too young,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: I feel like, outside of the Ben Affleck, which it
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: did bring up.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 9: I don't like the randomizer.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: I do. I like the randomizer.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: But can you think of a whole lot of celebrities
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: right now? No.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: That's why we're using the randomizer. Yeah, I'm kind of
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: got like... I think it gives us fun options that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: we can completely throw out and deny. So, when it
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: brings up Leonardo DiCaprio, and I think, yeah, Hollywood does
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: give him just about everything now. I feel like, once again,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: he's way too young to be playing that now. Or
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: he definitely reads way too young to be playing that.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just didn't go for that one.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: So, now, what if we flip the genders again?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: Or at least with the girls.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: You mean as the teacher?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking as the guys. If the two
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: young guys became.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Two young girls.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: What's what I'm saying?
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Do we then have to flip the teacher to also
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: be female or it starts to get creepy?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: And does it also still take place in Boston? Or
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: does it take place in?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Detroit or do we make it a young girl and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: keep the the teacher as louis ck and now when
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: it gets creepy it just.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Feels real it's legitimately creepy real.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 8: See and this sounded like a totally twist man this
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: sounded like a totally bonkers one to recast right like
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: that made no sense but it's pretty intriguing.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: It still has angelina if we were gonna go with
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: teacher yeah I think she could pull that off, though.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: She could pull off the T-shirt if we're flipping that.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: Oh, no, wait. Oh, Danny McBride.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 9: You know, I.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Could buy that, actually.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: I think that Danny McBride has a lot to offer.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: And if not, then you could definitely do Nick Gofferman.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: He doesn't really do tons of serious, but it is
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: one of those I feel like he's got that potential.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: I think he does, too.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: If he could get away from it. I feel like
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: he's afraid to do it. even in stuff that's kind
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: of serious he acts silly so it's like I think
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: he just doesn't want to fully commit I think he
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: could if he did I think he'd probably be.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: Good I think that he could be a really good serious.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: Actor not yet you should check out Vice Principals it's
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: pretty good.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 8: Walton Goggins is like always solid.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: He and Walton Goggins go in and well Walton Goggins
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: is over the top but Danny McBride goes in and
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: out of serious to you know kind of jokey but
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: He does both really well in the series.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 8: It's strange how he can actually pull off menacing in
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 8: a serious way, too, which I did not expect.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: So, well, food for thought for future stuff. Check that out.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: That's a good series.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we enjoyed it.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Now, girls as the damaged young youth.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: But I think, yeah, you cast two kind of unknowns.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: That's better.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: That keeps that from becoming a.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Because they were unknowns.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 8: And then it becomes less of a major thing and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: still kind of weird indie because you have some weird
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: comic dude that is trying a serious role.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I mean, it could go horribly wrong,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: but it could be amazing.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm just curious because it's not one that
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 8: you would think about doing.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Again, it's all in.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: And that's what made that first one. It was all
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: in the writing.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: That's why those two guys broke through and became superstars
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: is because that writing was... really good like especially for
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: nobody's you know it's like they came out of nowhere
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: and they did the work it it kind of worked
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: so they did the work if the writing's there you
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: cast good people it'll work.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: You know you can't just show up and expect someone
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: to give you a million.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 13: Dollars unless you're star wars unless you're nissan unless nissan
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 13: knocks on your door and says hey you want to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 13: do a thing i don't care what here's a million
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 13: dollars I keep waiting for that to happen.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: I guess I'd sell out.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with it. Just do something
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: good with your sellout money. Huh?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: Probably have to be more than a million. That won't
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: really get you anywhere.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: For a movie, yeah.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: For my own personal life, I think I'd hold out
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: for more.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I'd take a little more.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 9: I'd take a million.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I'd take a million. I'd take a million. I wouldn't
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: turn down a million.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 8: I'd ask for higher and then work my way down.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: How much time do I really have to devote to this, really?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 11: I mean.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 8: What if you had to wear nothing but like a
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: Nissan shirt and Nissan pants and a Nissan hoodie?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, I actually get to wear pants?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: I like the Nissan pants idea.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Do they have like racing stripes that say Nissan down
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: the leg? They say Rogue.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: That's kind of cool.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: As long as I get to wear pants, that's fine.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: I don't even have to wear shoes. That's, you know, whatever.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 8: Nissan shoes.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, really, we're selling the clothes at this point?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm certainly not selling.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 8: You're sponsored by Nissan, so everything you do.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Right. I got the hat.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Nissan.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: How much?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: Isn't it kind of like that now?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: How much would you pay?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Isn't that how most things work?
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 8: Would anybody have to pay you to be the Nissan guy?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Today?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 9: Today.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: No, tomorrow. I'd take a million dollars.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Easy.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: I would take half a million dollars.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: But, like, what if you had to sign a contract
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: to do that and wear nothing but that for, like,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 8: Five years.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: For five years now.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: It's a different scenario.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: No, it's not like a day of wearing all Nissan clothing.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: I would take between two and a half million. To
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: five million. I think five years isn't even bad. I
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: thought it was like a lifelong commitment.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Then it's really overwhelming.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 8: You really don't value yourself high enough, Brian.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: I am poor, and I will gladly do a lot
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: of ridiculous things to get by.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: If you're stuck in a clown gig for the rest
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: of your life, I could see that being a horrific
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: scenario where you're barely making enough to get by.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: And even if they paid you millions of dollars to
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: be a clown for the rest of your life, I
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: think that would be a tough one for me to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: pull off. But to wear a Nissan shirt and hat
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: and pants.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: And shoes and underwear and a hoodie or a coat
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: or a sweater, whatever.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: As long as it said Nissan on it.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 12: It's got to say Nissan.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: So far.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: Can we get Nissan on the phone? Because I'm okay
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: with this.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: For my entire life. I don't even drive Nissan. You know,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: what is my life worth?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 8: My aunt got a Nissan and named it Liam Nissan.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: I thought it was pretty funny. Yeah.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think a good rate is, you know,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: five million or a million per year. That's a great rate.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 8: Because they have to pay you to wear their stupid
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: thing and advertise there.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: This is just a hell of a payday.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: Now, this is you. Oh, I have to suffer through
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: several years of this thing I don't want to do.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: isn't that everyone's freaking life?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: How many times have I worked a job that I
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: didn't want to do for more than five years?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but at least you get to wear your own clothes.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I didn't get millions of dollars at the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: end of it. I can damn well tell you that.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: So I would much more cash in to a point where, okay,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: now I don't have to work every day. I don't
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: have to do horrible jobs for the rest of my life.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: And I wore some stupid clothes for five years.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. We're essentially already doing it unless
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: you are self-employed. You are a representative of the company.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: The company.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: The company still makes the calls of what you can
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: and can't do every day.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really can't say much more about that.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: I was just, you know, I mean, asking the question.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: But, no, I want millions of dollars. You make this happen.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 9: In fact.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'd probably say yes too.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just playing. The simpler the job.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: You're not even a good hippie. You sold out.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Damn. The simpler the job with more money, the better
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: the scenario is in my book. I mean, if all
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: I got to do is show up.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 12: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Wearing a suit of, Some variety?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I show up somewhere and people make
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: fun of me.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: They do that now. And I don't get a damn thing.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: So if I get five, ten million dollars out of it.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I'd do that. Oh, man. Yep, I'll take it. I'd
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: do that. Or I would, you know, do that for
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: five years and then I would slowly, you know, I
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: would take that five million and I would disappear.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't disappear.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: I'd find new things for people to be making fun
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: of or a gas to buy. Because I would take
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: that money and do something stupid.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: You don't want to breach your contract and have them
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: take away your millions.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: I'd wait the five years. I'd be a very good employee.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: What if it was a lifelong contract?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Like kids in the Mickey Mouse Club?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: Like years later, they couldn't... I couldn't wear a bikini
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: from that point on because people don't need to see
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: my Nissan navel.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: Shit.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: This is all actually true of an afternoon cello, by
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: What's the other one that's like that where you had
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: to sign the contract for the rest of your life?
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: The singing, not the voice, but... American Gladiators.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Idol?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 8: You will forever be.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: American Idol. Giant Light. Yeah, they had.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: To sign paperwork that said, you will forever, for the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: life of the show, be a representative of the show.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you're Justin Guarini.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 8: What else you got going on?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: You'll gladly sign that.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 10: Sure. Sure.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson's a different story.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: Because she can rise above that. But the rest of
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: us are really just Justin in this world. Let's be realistic.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: We can't all be Kelly. Most of us are Justin.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: That's a fair point. But regardless of whether you're Justin
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: or her, you're still showing up to do stuff for free.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: You're getting taken advantage of. They are really reaming you
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: in the backside. But Not for free, really. Comparatively. How
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: much money do you think she actually makes? Which person
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: are we talking about?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Kelly? Kelly does fine now. Yeah.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: She is still one of the consistent money makers.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: She has a career.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Outside of that.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 8: Way far removed. She has a.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Career, but how much money do you think she actually makes? Google.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 9: I don't know. To the Googles!
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 8: I'm sure she had to sign a contract that said
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 8: if she did make it, she probably has to pay
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 8: something I.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 9: Mean, I don't know.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, record sales, okay.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: But most of that money goes to the people that
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: own the publishing. So if she's not doing her own material,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: she's not making any of that money.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: According to the Googles, Kelly Clarkson's net worth is $ 28 million.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, but what is it? If I had $ 28 million- Wait, wait, wait.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: That is several years of Nissan.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: Wearing- What is she making it from?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, again, she's still putting out, actually, she's
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: still putting out albums that now she has, because I'm
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: sure that first one was prefab stuff from the show.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: But now these last several, like she wrote that last song.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: There we go. And like she, and like it was
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: not just good.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Like it's better than most people's stuff that I've seen,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: let alone stuff that got played on the radio. So
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: she's personally in charge of her career.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: That's the important part.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: So I think a lot of a very common scenario,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: and this is probably true of actors too, they get
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: into these situations with these movie houses and they sign
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: a deal to do something for nothing and it just
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: goes nowhere. Justin Guarini. Justin Guarini.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: Who is actually on Broadway now. So he's not dying
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: in the gutter somewhere.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 12: And he's a nice guy.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems like a nice enough guy. He did
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: have a good voice. He's working on Broadway now. So
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: he still has a career.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: He's working.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: He's working. There's more than a lot of.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: People out there. He just doesn't have that worth of
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: $ 28 million.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not $ 28 million. He's not still getting played
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: on the radio. He's a punchline to a joke made
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: by idiots like me.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: So I get it. You jerk.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 11: I am.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's like that becomes its own weird scenario.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: And I just want $ 28 million. Is that too much
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: to ask? So yeah, I guess the bottom line is
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: that Brian and I are willing to sell our bodies for... Yeah.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: So goldenpalace.com, get a hold of us. I don't know
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: that I want it on my forehead, but... Please give
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Paul a call. Give that guy a call. Would we
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: like to pick another movie?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I totally interrupted you and got super weightless.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: This is interesting because we've gotten on several tangents and
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: it's all kind of about money and selling out. It
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: factors into a lot of the, especially when we're doing
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: dumb remakes, it's all about a money grab anyway because
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: you're just going with a property title. So it doesn't
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: really bother me because I think this is all connected.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 8: No, I think it totally is.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Can you do a.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: Remake that is both a sellout but also has integrity?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Like it is true to the story but in a
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: fresh new way. It captures the people's imagination. Like that's
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: hard for me to pull off. I mean, there have
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: been good remakes. There have been.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: So I'm trying to think of all of that.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Plays in because i mean i guess that's the strategy
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: we're trying to assemble here is what is the right
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: cast to do it what is the right director to
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: do it you know you got the money to get
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: behind somebody making it good not just.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: Redoing it i've also always said just about all property
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: but specifically remakes in general it's like don't stick so
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: close to the like Because anytime it's kind of worked
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: for me, it's not like it's a shot for shot remake.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: It's we took this idea, which was a good idea.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: It's been several years. We're going to do something with
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: the basic idea, but we're going to put our own
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: spin on it. That kind of works. Because to me,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: my go-to is like the thing.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: The original movie is fine, but what they did with
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: it in the 80s is like.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: An entirely different thing. No pun intended.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: And like it works in a way that's even above
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: and beyond the way the old one worked for me.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: They took a great idea and found a way to
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: make it even better and more interesting. And it still
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: plays on the basic fear in the first one, but
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: it adds these other layers in there that I think
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: is way more impressive.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: I gotta say that even though it wasn't entirely different,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: I loved the Matt Dillon remake of The Blob. I,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: and by recently, I mean in the last, you know,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: five years or so, went back and rewatched it and
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: was surprised.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: Like I kind of remembered it on cable, but like
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: I really grew up as a kid.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Loving that first movie. Silly as it may be. But again,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: it's like, I love old sci-fi campiness. So like I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: love the original.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: Me too.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: But going back again, they were doing a very different
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: thing with that one and take the bad 80s hair
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: out of it.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: And the rest of it still kind of holds up.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: The special effects in particular are really cool.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: I think that there are also, oh, yeah, whenever they
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: get sucked down into the sink. The fact that, well,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, just like the fact that. How does a
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: human body not explode a pipe, you know?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: Well, to me, it was because before it was just
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: like it rolled over you and you disappeared in the 60s.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: The fact that it like dissolved you in front of
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: people in the 80s.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Is a whole different level of disturbing. And I'd like
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: to point out that there were shoulder pads, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: Still not near as frightening as Kevin Dillon's hair. I
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: think it's actually Kevin Dillon.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. That's what I meant to say.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 8: The other Dillon.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: The other Dillon. The lesser known. The lesser Dillon.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: The Dillon that I don't know where he even is now.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Is he still alive?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 8: Like the lesser Quaid.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Kevin Dillon or Matt Dillon? I know Matt is. Matt's
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: still acting. Well, so is Kevin. He was in Entourage.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: That's true. Was he?
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: In fact, he was quoted recently as saying that this
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: whole sex scandal stuff was a witch hunt.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sounds like something a shady dude in Hollywood would say.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 8: Sounds like something a lesser brother of someone would say.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Or fucking offense. Be offended.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: I don't fucking care.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: It's a witch hunt that needed to happen a long
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: time ago. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty sleazy. Yeah, so here
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: we are talking about movies, and we haven't really discussed that.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Have you discussed that in prior?
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: No, we haven't really had a normal sit-down, hangout conversation
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: kind of thing.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 10: In a while.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: And we don't get to. We can.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: Again, many tangents come up on these episodes. That's true.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: We did talk about the blob.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Which is sort of a perfect metaphor for the sex scandal.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Creepy dudes in Hollywood. Taking over all of the country, really.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Politics in Hollywood.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 8: Dissolving you right in front of people.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of, and again, I always have
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: to distinguish from people who are on the show and
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: definitely listening to this show as different from, I'm using
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: quotes again, normal people. I've heard a lot of normal
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: people lately make these kind of like, I don't know,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: like ridiculously narrow-minded and like just obtuse comments about it. Like,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: like this just started happening. I'm like, no, the problem
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: is this is the system in Hollywood. And this is
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: the thing that has been going on since day one.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: Like this has always been the way it has worked.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: And if we can get out of that, like that's
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: all we can hope for really is, Not 100%, but
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: if we can get to a point where the system changes,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: it's not going.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: To fix everything, not in this world that we live in.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: But if we can at least change the system somewhat
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: so that this does not become just the way that
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: things operate.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Well, then I think this ties into Nissan. Because essentially
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about is money and the power and
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: corruption that money brings. And that is the root of
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: the problem.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 8: And what would you do for it? Not that it
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 8: makes it right or wrong.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: What would you do for it? And once you have it,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: you know, it is all corrupting, obviously.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 8: I mean, for most.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Typical men, let's just say, with a lot of power,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: feel as though the rules don't apply to them. I mean,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: I see it on the road every day. Actually, some do,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: didn't they, Greg? in front of me today just walked
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: right out in front of me i almost hit him
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: with my cart and i wouldn't have thought twice it's
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: really inappropriate when he grabbed your.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: Ass as he passed i know i know I mean,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: I don't blame him, but I'm just saying.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: I was asking for it. I was asking for it.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't have also said that. I hiked up
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: my jeans leg, you know. Anyway. So, yeah. I mean,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: I don't... Can you change that dynamic? I mean, I
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: think maybe you can change the rules so that it's
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: not abused as much. But I think money is corrupting.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Always.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 8: Always.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: And as long as there is money in the system
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: and people are making ridiculous sums, this is the sort
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: of thing that's going to happen. And I'm not saying
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: that it is right or justified in any way. I don't.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's the exact opposite. I hate it. I
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: think it's ridiculous.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: I think more than the money is how much it is.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: The power thing.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: And I think that more than it, because there's plenty
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: of industries out there that thrive on money.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: That it can make or break.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: But Hollywood was power. It was no matter how much
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: money was involved, the power that came behind the heads
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: of the industry and the fact that they would make
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: or break anything. It's like anything they did, Could literally
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: ruin your career from that point on.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 8: And I think there's plenty of instances of women actresses,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 8: and male actresses too, where you see, you're like, whatever
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 8: happened to them?
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: And they probably said no.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and now it kind of clicks where you're like,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 8: you know, I wonder if that's what happened.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: They took one look at it and said, you know,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: I can think of a few better things to do
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: with my life.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 8: But you know what I mean?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: In the short time that we all have here.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's plenty where you're like, they were good.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe I won't subject myself to humiliation and sexual abuse.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Hostess in a restaurant's not so bad, actually.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: Seat for four, we got you over here, and nobody
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: touched me today.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, really, it's... And the other thing, I think
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: the other element that we're not discussing yet, I mean, yes,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: money's a factor. Power comes from the money. But also, in...
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: and it is true of Hollywood and politics, it is
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: the ego that is drawn to those scenarios. And there
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: are a lot of huge egos in Hollywood and in Washington, D.C.,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: or any, hell, local state politics. I mean, you know,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: people can't keep it in their pants.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 8: That might be the bottom line as well.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: I will be the first to not pretend like it
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: isn't also a very.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: I won't even say like, it is such a gender thing.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: And it's one of those, like, I do wonder if,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: because I do feel like power and money corrupts everyone,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: but there's something that like worse happens to men. Like,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: and I do wonder if it changed and like we
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: skip forward, planet of the apes style and females are
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: running the entire world. Do they become as horrible as
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: what men have done in the past? I do feel
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: like case by case, they certainly can. But overall, does
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: it fall into that same... horrible place that does power
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: and money corrupt universally is it so overall corrupting that
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: it will also take what i think is a probably
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: a better mindset for that kind of thing the female
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: brain is certainly weird in its own ways but it
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem to fall into that as often as the
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: male brain what do you.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: Think gina i can't comment on.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 8: This yeah i don't think it how would it.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: Go horribly wrong for women.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: Because I feel like there are incidents where we've seen it.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 8: We've got our own problems. Yeah, I mean, there's the
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 8: same thing.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: Before modern society, you look back, you know, there's plenty
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: of queens running countries that did horrible things and sent
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: people to their death equally as bad as male politicians do.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 8: Exactly, but the sexual harassment thing does seem to be
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 8: like a male... Yeah.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: And I don't... It does happen, though.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 9: It happens.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 8: I'm not saying it doesn't happen.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't happen to the extent.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the numbers are way.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: All right, so clearly men think 80 to 95% about
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: sex pretty much.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 8: No, I think women probably do too, but what's the difference?
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: It's crossing a line. That's the thing. The men are
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: constantly thinking about it, but realize, oh, my power can
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: also get me that.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: I can get that.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Where maybe women would be like, I'll just find a
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: guy who wants to do this.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 8: Because there's always plenty.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's part of it too.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: It's just too easy. Weird looking dudes don't have an option.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: Like you just, I hope I get really rich because
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: no one's going to want to.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: Be with me otherwise. Because no woman, yeah.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: Because I'm unattractive and I'm a horrible person.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 8: Has, can pick and choose.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, right. That might be.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: Part, like I really do think that's part of. So
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: the mindset of weird guys.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: No, I can't put you in this position. Speak for
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: all of womankind. Exactly.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 8: I'll probably get myself into trouble.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 9: Try it.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 8: And if I don't feel like answering it, I'll.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean, what is the female equivalent?
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: What is the pitfall of a woman in power? Does
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: a woman, clearly she doesn't have to do anything. I mean,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: she can just ask for someone to have sex with
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: her and they will, you know.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 8: But so can men.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 9: I mean, that is true.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: Rarely does it actually happen.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't really work, though.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Unless you are very pretty as a guy. So, you know,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: is it, you know, and I can't really give out
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: any examples without seeming like a complete douche. You know, like,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to throw anything out there as an
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: example of what a potential, you know, Are.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: We looking for specific incidents of this happening?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 9: Like, wait, what?
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which thing do you want her.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: To pin down?
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 8: What are we talking about?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 9: What have you done?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: Damn you and your manhood. What have you done now?
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: So if a man's pitfall is his penis.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: You know, what is the female equivalent if she is
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: in the female Harvey Weinstein? What is the scenario?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 12: Oh, God.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like it could be exactly the same.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure it could be totally, totally the same.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: It could be and has happened in offices in Hollywood
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: and everywhere, but not near as much.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: That's my point. There are plenty of women who are
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: powerful and hold high positions and probably abuse it.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: But maybe not in the same way. How do they abuse.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 9: It is my question.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 8: But what would our abuse be?
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 8: You know, this is the sad part. It's probably taken
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 8: out more on other women.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: I can see that. That's where I was.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 8: Wondering if you would go there.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 8: I mean, I would say that that would be the pitfall.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, obviously, there's horrible piggish women wherever. There's a
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: female Harvey Weinstein that we're just not hearing about.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 8: But I think women.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: Probably- Because somewhere there's a guy going, you know what
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: happened to me today? Hell yeah, I got the job. No,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's- She totally abused you.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: That's like not fair because high fives are given all.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 8: Around but that's equally as dismissive to to men that.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 11: It happens to you know what i mean and it's
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 11: funny to joke about it and i think you know
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 11: we're all like we can be super sensitive about things
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 11: but i think if i had to.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 8: Comment on women in power they're probably worse to other
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 8: women around yeah and abuse them but in totally different
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 8: ways yeah and humiliate them and totally.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: It's it's i just find that it's an strange dynamic
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: you know the the because we live in an era
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: where um you know it's and it and it should
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: be it's okay to be gay it's okay to be
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: transgender there's all that there's a it's a another sexual
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: revolution right and and all of this stuff with hollywood
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: is coming up and it's just like it's a it's
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: a it's.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 8: It sounds so weird and shitty and like out of
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 8: time Right. You know, like that should not be something
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 8: that is happening now.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like something that should have happened in
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: the 50s. Yeah, kind of.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: But again, I feel like that's... That was part of it.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: It was so built into the structure of the way
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: that things worked that you couldn't even take it out
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: without it being this level, without it toppling the entire town.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: Because it was the way the town worked.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: That guy was going to decide whether or not you
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: got a job in that town.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: But that's the thing.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: It took.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: Because we've had these people try to out people before
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: and they get shut down.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 15: It took.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: hundreds you know all these people finally coming together to
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: make any dent in the problem it still may not
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: fix it.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 8: And even then it took several a while to come
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 8: out a lot of work.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: To be like yeah okay and this is why I
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: believe that aliens exist and our government is covering it
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: up that's for another episode would we like to roll
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: into that next episode right now.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 9: Oh man.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think we will keep this conversation going into
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: a second episode. I could tell once we got going
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: that this was turning into a much bigger and I'd
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: say more interesting discussion than just the basic concept of
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: some random remake talk.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: That I don't still enjoy that, because I do. But
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: once I saw us heading down that road, I decided
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: to steer into it. Right into the sprawling and, at times,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: very real conversations. So we're actually going to return to
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: this topic, or as you now know, collection of topics,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: the week after next. Now, I'm specifically telling you the
• 1:38:49
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• 1:38:53
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• 1:38:57
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• 1:39:00
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• 1:39:03
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• 1:39:05
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• 1:39:06
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• 1:39:09
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• 1:39:11
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• 1:39:15
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• 1:39:17
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• 1:39:21
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• 1:39:53
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• 1:39:58
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• 1:40:01
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• 1:40:36
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• 1:40:38
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• 1:40:41
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• 1:40:45
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• 1:40:48
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• 1:40:50
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• 1:40:54
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for listening.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 9: I said I'm an evil gal. Don't you mess around
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 9: with me.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll lift you your pockets and I'll fill you
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 4: with misery.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 7: Yes, I will. If you tell me good morning, I'm
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 7: going to tell you that's a lie. If you say hello, baby,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 7: I'm going to give you the evil eye. I'm in
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 7: a evil, yeah. Don't you mess around with me. I'm
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 7: gonna empty.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: Your pockets and I'll fill you with misery.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 9: Yes, I will. I want caviar for breakfast, champagne every night.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: I want a midnight snack For every man that I
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 6: invite I'm an evil gal Don't leave nothing wrong with
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 6: me No.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 9: So good-bye, baby I'm gonna set you free.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 15: Wow I said, if you wanna be happy, honey, don't.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: You mess around with me.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 9: I said, if you wanna be happy, don't.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 15: You mess around with me.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: Cause I lived in your pockets and I'll fill you
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 6: with misery.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 15: I'm evil.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: If you wanna be happy, don't you hang out with
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: me no more. I said, if you wanna be happy, honey,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: don't you hang out with me.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 7: You better not, cause I'll lift your pockets and I'll
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  Speaker 7: set you free.
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  Speaker 9: And I'm so happy.
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  Speaker 3: Mrs. Mia Wallace.
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  Speaker 5: Vincent Vega.
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  Speaker 8: You like my collection of beverages?
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  Speaker 3: How many beverages do you need?
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  Speaker 9: Every time we do.
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  Speaker 8: This, this is my usual life.
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  Speaker 1: You do have 14 every time we go to record.
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  Speaker 8: A plethora.
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  Speaker 12: You use that word.
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  Speaker 1: I do not know if you know what it means.
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  Speaker 1: What is a plethora? Or dare I say plethora?
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