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INTERVIEW: Teofimo Lopez Talks Upcoming Boxing Match With Shakur Stevenson, Addresses Racial Controversy + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold every day up waiting, click up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: You know I'm finish for y'all done morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ n V, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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  Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. Long the roses here as well,
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  Speaker 3: our brother, I can say.
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  Speaker 4: So you know what that means.
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  Speaker 2: We got a box in the building, Ladies and gentlemen
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  Speaker 2: from Brooklyn, New York. He's fighting on the thirty first
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  Speaker 2: of January.
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  Speaker 4: He's fighting.
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  Speaker 3: You should call Stevenson too low pez welcome, Yes, how
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  Speaker 3: you feeling.
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  Speaker 5: Brother, feeling great, feeling excited, and I'm just pumped for
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  Speaker 5: this fight.
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  Speaker 4: It is a dream matchup, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fight that boxing fans, you know, just these
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  Speaker 1: are the fights we want to see.
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  Speaker 4: What made you want to fight your core? Right now?
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  Speaker 4: How did y'all get it done?
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  Speaker 6: I think it's just fate, you know, it just lined up.
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  Speaker 5: I think that you know, he's been talking a big,
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  Speaker 5: big game since the Williams of Pay the fight that
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  Speaker 5: happened over here at the Armstrong Stadium. So I think
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  Speaker 5: that there's nobody else at one thirty five that he's
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  Speaker 5: trying to aim for.
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  Speaker 6: So he wants to come for the top dog and
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  Speaker 6: that's me at one forty.
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  Speaker 5: So it just lines up, you know, And I'm always
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  Speaker 5: I'm always willing to fight the best, and I feel like.
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  Speaker 6: Why not.
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  Speaker 5: You know, people talk highly of Chakour as they should,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm just here.
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  Speaker 6: To do my part.
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  Speaker 7: And you know you mentioned the fight against the Peya.
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  Speaker 7: Were you surprised how Shakur Chakour has gotten criticized for
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  Speaker 7: moving and being a boxer that isn't that aggressive, which
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  Speaker 7: I mean, he's been successful at it. But on a
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  Speaker 7: Septa fight he showed the word that he could fight
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  Speaker 7: in the pocket like to pay that those are the
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  Speaker 7: thousand punches of fight. Were you surprised that you expect
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  Speaker 7: that Chicour can fight that type of fight as well.
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  Speaker 6: Man, I look at it, like, I know, we mentioned it,
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  Speaker 6: we talked about it. I'd say that it was.
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  Speaker 5: The people get to him. People get to Chokour going
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  Speaker 5: quite easily. So I feel like whatever the people want
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  Speaker 5: is what they're going to try to get with Shakur.
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  Speaker 6: Oh.
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  Speaker 7: So he said he fought like that to please the people,
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  Speaker 7: to prove to the people that he can do it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he didn't need to, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because you can't tell if you court don't want you
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  Speaker 1: touch him, you're gonna you see that immaculate you just said,
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  Speaker 1: you said that you are you ready to pull an upset?
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  Speaker 4: So you you acknowledging that you cause the better fighters.
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  Speaker 6: Never no, no, no, he said the upset.
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  Speaker 7: We say odds in my head.
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  Speaker 5: No, yeah, it's just the odds. They got him as
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  Speaker 5: the favorite OS. I think it's like three to one
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 6: That's all.
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  Speaker 5: I'm kind of used to being in that position. I'm
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  Speaker 5: just here to reclaim him and redefend him.
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  Speaker 8: So with that upset, like, what do you plan to
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  Speaker 8: like exploit about your court and ring?
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  Speaker 5: That is defense is not as impeccable as people mention it.
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  Speaker 4: That's pretty elite. Come on, it's pretty elite.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 7: What is his weakness though? If there's one, his mind.
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  Speaker 5: Once you penetrate the mind, that's it. This game, This
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  Speaker 5: is boxing, this has always been since forever. And if
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  Speaker 5: your mind ain't strong and this, it's never gonna accomplish
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  Speaker 5: anything in life.
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  Speaker 6: And that's why boxing to this day is the toughest
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  Speaker 6: sport in the world.
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  Speaker 5: You can't take away from that. And it starts with
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  Speaker 5: the mind.
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  Speaker 3: That's why now you're both fighting in the guard, you're
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  Speaker 3: fighting in the garden. What does that mean to you?
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  Speaker 3: You from Brooklyn, him from Jersey, What does that mean
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  Speaker 3: to you?
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  Speaker 6: Now?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, brick city and concrete jungle. That's how you gotta
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  Speaker 5: look at it. It's it's a blessing. I mean for me,
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a It's a not only an honor,
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  Speaker 5: but it shows where we're at in the pedigree of
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  Speaker 5: the sport. You got two prime fighters coming in the best,
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  Speaker 5: fighting the best and putting on the show. In New
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  Speaker 5: York is nothing like the Mecca and Madison Square Garden.
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  Speaker 5: There's so much history there. I've won my titles there.
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  Speaker 6: I've I've been defeated there, won them all back again.
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  Speaker 5: So I got a lot of history when it comes
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  Speaker 5: to Madison Square Garden.
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  Speaker 3: Does it get to your head when you hear the
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  Speaker 3: odds or you hear somebody like Charlemagne say and his
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  Speaker 3: defense is impeccable and say that you underdog. Does that
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  Speaker 3: get to your head at all when you see like
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  Speaker 3: people going against you so much.
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  Speaker 6: No, it can't be, can't be. It comes with it.
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  Speaker 6: I look at it like this.
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  Speaker 5: I was talking to my father about this and what's
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  Speaker 5: also my training. I said, if you want to be light,
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  Speaker 5: then you know you be light by being a good fighter.
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  Speaker 5: You want to be loved, you be the best fighter,
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  Speaker 5: but you want to be hated. You be the greatest fighter.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that all comes in different atmospheres. And
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  Speaker 5: when you're the greatest, not a lot of people are
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  Speaker 5: gonna agree with what you're doing and how you do it.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm trying to aim for that category, aim for that,
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  Speaker 5: for that, for my journey and for my name. And
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  Speaker 5: before I hang up these gloves, people can say to
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  Speaker 5: your female, what's the greatest.
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  Speaker 4: The thing I love about you?
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  Speaker 1: You've you've been very open about like your personal struggles
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  Speaker 1: and pressure and mental health. How he's doing that work
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  Speaker 1: made you a better man and fighter.
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  Speaker 6: I love it. I love it, I honestly love it.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's like part of the journey is like
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  Speaker 5: you learn with struggle, you learn with obstacles, and you
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  Speaker 5: also learn within yourself what you can and cannot do.
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  Speaker 6: And then you hit a point.
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  Speaker 5: In your life where you start realizing that there's not
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  Speaker 5: much that you cannot achieve, so you push limits far
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  Speaker 5: beyond your own measures.
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  Speaker 6: And I love it.
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  Speaker 5: I love it. I love this right here. I love
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  Speaker 5: this fight. I love this part where it's.
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  Speaker 6: Going to test my limits. It's a challenge to.
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  Speaker 5: Show people, and I'm here to exploit his defense of
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  Speaker 5: Shakur Seemson. I'm here to show that there's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of flaws in his style. We don't grown up in
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  Speaker 5: the amateurs together and since the early two thousand and tons,
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  Speaker 5: so we got a lot of history when it comes
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  Speaker 5: to like seeing each other rise to the cream of
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  Speaker 5: the crop. But I think that now it comes to
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  Speaker 5: where we just meeting them, so we never faced each other.
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  Speaker 5: Wish nothing but the best after he loses to me,
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  Speaker 5: and yeah, I can't wait to just keep on going
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  Speaker 5: from there.
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  Speaker 7: I have to ask you because I'm so happy that
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  Speaker 7: this fight is happening, because at one point this is
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  Speaker 7: a ring fight, right, so Turkey els she gets involved.
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  Speaker 7: And at one point it was saying that you were
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  Speaker 7: on the outch. You said something about Saudi Arabia, you
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  Speaker 7: said something about I don't know the religion, correct me
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  Speaker 7: if I'm wrong, and supposedly Turkey didn't want to do
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  Speaker 7: any business with you. But then in Vegas, I saw
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  Speaker 7: you have everybody like kind of mingling so what was said?
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  Speaker 7: How did you guys mend a beef or whatever issue
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  Speaker 7: that was.
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  Speaker 6: It's boxing, there's no beef. It's just boxing. You're gonna
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  Speaker 6: talk sometimes, you're gonna talk hit and miss.
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  Speaker 7: I know, But did you regret anything that you said?
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  Speaker 7: Because youre outspoken, have you ever regretted anything that you said,
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  Speaker 7: like to the public?
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  Speaker 6: Well, one thing you learn in this game. You don't
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  Speaker 6: talk about religion. So I don't learn from that.
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  Speaker 5: No, but I'm just saying not learn from it. I
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  Speaker 5: don't recall me even mentioning about religion. I think people
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  Speaker 5: mix up my words from time to time and that
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  Speaker 5: comes with this game.
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  Speaker 6: It's cool. I mean, I'm still captain of my division.
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  Speaker 6: I'm holding my belts.
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  Speaker 5: I'm proud to be a ring champion, his champion, so
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  Speaker 5: to speak, and at the same time WBO World champion.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm in a great position.
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  Speaker 5: I think that as long as you bring money to
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  Speaker 5: the game, they can't exclude you out.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's just true.
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  Speaker 9: How much longer do you how much longer do you
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  Speaker 9: plan about? Because I know you've retired before, are you
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  Speaker 9: thinking about doing it again?
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  Speaker 6: No? I don't know. I think for me it's really
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  Speaker 6: just enjoying it. Just enjoying it. Now, what made you
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  Speaker 6: want to do it before? What made you retire before?
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  Speaker 4: What got you to that?
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  Speaker 5: I was trying to do it for the I guess
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  Speaker 5: there was an absence there where I wanted people to.
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  Speaker 6: Acknowledge what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 5: These two belts alone at twenty five is so hard
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  Speaker 5: to do in box, let alone even go for one.
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  Speaker 5: And to do that in two different weight classes against
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  Speaker 5: two top pound four pound aiming one was undisputed, the
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  Speaker 5: other one was claiming to be undisputed, beating both of
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  Speaker 5: them in their prime. And to do that and not
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  Speaker 5: really get that kind of imbionzo, that type of vibe
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  Speaker 5: from everybody else that they get from others.
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  Speaker 7: And the money you said you wasn't in the money
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  Speaker 7: you deserved.
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  Speaker 5: But I always told myself as a kid, it was like,
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  Speaker 5: you get all those things when you are number one.
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  Speaker 6: I got them twice, nothing came around, So.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, you want the people to miss you.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm like, you know what, this this ain't gonna
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  Speaker 5: really I was like that fire comes, goes down, goes down.
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  Speaker 5: So to rebuild it and then did my fighting times
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  Speaker 5: square earlier in twenty twenty five. Earlier this year at
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  Speaker 5: Times Square, it was great. I feel the fire more
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  Speaker 5: than ever got like a blue flame on me.
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  Speaker 8: It worked the retirement, the first retirement. You feel like
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  Speaker 8: it worked for what you were trying to accomplish.
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  Speaker 5: Just want to Yeah, I guess you know personally when
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  Speaker 5: we talk about this stuff, it's like, you know, you
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  Speaker 5: sacrifice the.
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  Speaker 6: Time with your family. I got a young young boy.
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  Speaker 5: I really miss most of his time, like almost three years.
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  Speaker 5: He's four now, So through the math, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, So you miss a lot of that time
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  Speaker 5: that you kind of want to feel. At the same time,
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  Speaker 5: although it's our industries and our platform, you still want
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  Speaker 5: to feel like a human. You still got a life
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  Speaker 5: after all this, because you know this better than anybody, right,
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  Speaker 5: they'll eat you up and spit you right out, yeah
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  Speaker 5: and call into the next one. So I think I
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  Speaker 5: just needed that moment.
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  Speaker 1: So where are you emotionally and mentally now like today
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  Speaker 1: compared to the version of yourself that like beat a
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  Speaker 1: loma chinkle? Where are you now emotionally and mentally.
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  Speaker 6: Still? Yeah, I'm just very still.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not even trying to like argue if people say this,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, go ahead. If people say that, I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: do what you do. None of it is gonna matter
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  Speaker 5: till we fight. None of it gonna matter to I
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  Speaker 5: put in the action and the work. Just keep my
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  Speaker 5: faith above it all and just you know, show a
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  Speaker 5: different not even a difference, just show me, but in
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  Speaker 5: a way of maturity. That's really it.
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  Speaker 7: On paper, do you think your care is your toughest task?
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  Speaker 7: I know you got to be in there with him
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  Speaker 7: because the old fighters saying, I don't know, but on
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  Speaker 7: paper he's absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, this is why we do what we do.
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  Speaker 5: You can't go to do what you do and look
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  Speaker 5: for easy routes. Eventually you're going to have to meet
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  Speaker 5: up with people. So you know, that's why me and
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  Speaker 5: my father like right off the jump twenty two, won
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  Speaker 5: my first world title MSG boom. The following year Lomachenko undisputed.
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  Speaker 5: They revoked that, whatever the case be.
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  Speaker 6: And then just kept on going from there on. You
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  Speaker 6: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: And it's it's better knowing now than later, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because then is lying to yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Tim and Tim Tim Bradley said that he feels like
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  Speaker 1: she coll Stevenson can hurt you not not necessarily with power,
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  Speaker 1: but by frustrating you, controlling the distance, another flying your office,
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  Speaker 1: just making you look bad. He said that he feels
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  Speaker 1: like he has has some period boxing IQ compared to you.
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  Speaker 6: That's cool, that's his opinion. That's cool. Everybody has an opinion,
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  Speaker 6: like an asshole.
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  Speaker 9: You know, I swear, I wish I could be like
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  Speaker 9: I sware. I wish I could be like it's like,
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  Speaker 9: say whatever, it's fine.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be like saying what he also said, don't run
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  Speaker 4: from chicor yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, hey, I don't put on boxing shoes, not
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  Speaker 5: track shoes. So yeah, just I'm excited for it all man,
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  Speaker 5: I like to go to the fire.
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  Speaker 7: You know people been talking about was your mental lapses
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  Speaker 7: in the ring because you're so skilled, like you've been
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  Speaker 7: on the power for poundless, right, especially after you beat
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  Speaker 7: Loma Chankle. You showed every facet of your game. But
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  Speaker 7: then there's fights, little hiccups like against sandor Martin where
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  Speaker 7: people say TiO just wasn't really there, like mentally, it
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  Speaker 7: wasn't really him, Like how do you avoid that from happening?
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  Speaker 7: And do you hear that noise.
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  Speaker 6: Boxing? Raise me?
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  Speaker 5: I say it like that, and you come to a
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  Speaker 5: point in life where you realize some things may not.
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  Speaker 6: Go exactly the way you plan it for that night.
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  Speaker 6: That's perfectly fine, because they're just mistakes in the in
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  Speaker 6: the lead up to something more.
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  Speaker 5: It only becomes a choice when you continue to make
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  Speaker 5: that same mistake. So I've come to terms where it's
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  Speaker 5: like those type of quote unquote hiccups were challenging moments
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  Speaker 5: for me to see where I could improve.
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  Speaker 6: In my game. There's no such thing as like, oh
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  Speaker 6: I know everything, I know how to do it all.
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  Speaker 6: I got this in the bag. You don't. If you do,
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  Speaker 6: you might as well quit now. And that's you.
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  Speaker 3: Do you still love boxing because you know it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I hear you talk about your son a second ago
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  Speaker 3: and you lit up. But then when you talk about boxing,
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  Speaker 3: it's just like fucking I'm gonna fight, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna win, keep it moving. Then I'm gonna go back
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  Speaker 2: to my son, you know what I mean. So do
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  Speaker 2: you still love it? You still have love for the sport.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be the man I am without.
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  Speaker 2: It, But you still love it now?
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely? I'm just more no one rare chill.
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  Speaker 4: You wanna showing proof through actions and that word.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't gonna win that battle no more.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna do what I gotta do because the
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  Speaker 5: real gonna prevail regardless of me.
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  Speaker 6: They show a lot of flaws and fake dudes.
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  Speaker 5: And fake people around the world now, But as long
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  Speaker 5: as you keep your thing, keep it thorough, you gonna
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  Speaker 5: get yours.
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  Speaker 7: But don't you feel like you're suppressing who you really are?
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  Speaker 7: Like you talked about the time Square and everybody was
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  Speaker 7: saying to Femo was the one that had that whole
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  Speaker 7: promotion lit up, Like on the press conferences, you you
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  Speaker 7: had the bravado and all of that. So now it
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  Speaker 7: seems like you're saying you're gonna suppress that, you're not
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  Speaker 7: gonna be yourself.
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  Speaker 6: I'm still myself, just a different, toned down version of you.
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  Speaker 5: Want to say it that way, I think I just
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  Speaker 5: I ain't really been on social right now.
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  Speaker 6: I've just been locked in. Yeah, I just been on
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I get what I'm saying, because even when you talk about,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the things.
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  Speaker 5: You're so funny though, I'm gonna definitely do my thing
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  Speaker 5: at the press conference in a little bit, but.
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  Speaker 4: You got to show that to sell the fight because
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  Speaker 4: you know you got you got the accolade.
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  Speaker 1: But you know in order to get that money, sadly,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta perform a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: I already got the money. Yeah, so it's more so.
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  Speaker 7: You want to fight to do well? Yeah, numbers it will.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, look, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 5: This is my first time sitting amongst you all at
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  Speaker 5: the breakfast Breakfast club, and honestly it's been Uh.
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  Speaker 4: That's what it takes you to your pops, is funny.
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  Speaker 4: He back there, like, man, all that's.
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  Speaker 6: We never goes to the South.
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  Speaker 4: So he said, they never lost to the South. Part
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  Speaker 4: of two hundred fights more.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of people will look at look not to
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  Speaker 5: look over it, but a lot of people look at
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  Speaker 5: South posts very They're very difficult. But I grew up
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  Speaker 5: with South posts as a kid, kind of understand the
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  Speaker 5: rhythms of it. Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 6: He could be slick, but there's something I do to
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  Speaker 6: South poles that just working. My favorite.
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  Speaker 4: It's called different though, sorry, called a special fighter. Drop man,
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  Speaker 4: what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 6: Hold on you still.
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  Speaker 4: Like freaking four seconds?
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  Speaker 1: Man, This is a special fight because of both because
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: who we both of you all are but she is
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: a special fighter.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: You gotta acknowledge that's what we're fighting there, you go.
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: So so he does a great especially, but I mean
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: he got he got ahead a couple of times, getting
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: paid that. But he put himself in a position normally
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: like that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Damn, you.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Became a disputy at a young age, like you acknowledged.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: When you look at your career, Now, what part of
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: your legacy are you most focused on building?
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: Next?
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: The one that's coming. That's it, the one that's coming.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: All that is in the past, people end up forgetting
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Just gotta keep it going and and push forward on
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: what else you could do, Like I said before, just
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: trying to claim more history.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, break numbers. I think we're gonna sell out the garden.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: We got the big room, you know. I think it's
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: gonna be great.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: You called out a lot of big names, obviously, this
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: is a massive fight you called out obviously, but called
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: for at one point Boots, And it's like, so, what's
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: what's ahead? You saying that you're gonna beat your core
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: upset him, like, are you going up the forty seven?
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: Do you still want the big fights?
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Like what, I'm trusting my team, I'm gonna trust my
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: team on this one. I'm not gonna do no more
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: than that. You know, that's why you got a team,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: That's why everybody gets what they get from it. So
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: trust your team, trust the process, and trust the fact
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: that they got big plans for me the first quarter
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: of the year and then moving forward after that. So
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm excited no matter what. I'm excited that
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: I'm back on the field. I'm back fighting, getting ready.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: It's been a long time overdue, and uh yeah, just
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: ready to like show people like the takeover for real real.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: And just the most underestimated you felt going into a
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: fight or was it this way.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: With lom No, no, no, nowhere near closed.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: But I just like the fact that I'm just keeping
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: myself more calm and composed. Don't get me wrong, definitely
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: for sure, but I just yeah, I just I ain't
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: trying to do no more of that. I get myself
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: in trouble for no reason, Like I'm being my authentic
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: in trouble. It's like, guess me in trouble. I'm like, so,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: y'all just don't like I just don't like it. So
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: it's like i'd rather just I'm trying to get deals
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that in the near future.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: So I'd rather just keep it like this.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: What's the biggest misconception people still have about you?
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: That I'm crazy? Yeah, I'm not crazy.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: It's like, you gotta believe you're the best and the
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: greatest to do what you do and when you do.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: It, she's not crazy. It just you was. You were
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: really smart, You're genius.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: That sounds a little crazy, really.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: It's just that me and I was talking to my
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: father about this though, all right, So I know y'all
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: been hearing about the WBC and Crawford and all that stuff, right, So.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: I was thinking about this. You only become undisputed when
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: you pay all the sanctioning fees. So by the fall
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: by him not paying that one sanctioning fee, although he
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: be Canelo Alpharez by the fault, he's not undisputed three times.
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: No, he's No, he's undisputed. I mean, I mean obviously that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: The public not on paper.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: Paper, that doesn't mean anything at this point though, that's
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: what they did.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: It to me. I'm gonna do it to him.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: And the beauty of it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: People, but people considered you on disputed. A lot of
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: people did consider you unisputed paper look.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: Up Wikipedia right now they say unified.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: But for Crawford, they got him, and I don't get Look,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: I can't take nothing away from Crawford, great fighter, one
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: of the best that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: We've seen of this era.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Cool, we give him that, we give him the acknowledgement
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: he beat Canelo, moving up. Yeah, but when you think
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: about it, by the book, yo, that's why it's like,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: by the book, if you ain't pay that sanctioning fee,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: by the fault, you didn't become a disputed.
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: Now that happened like two months we're.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Talking about all right, you're talking about a guy that
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: may like they say, ain't fifty m's right or fifty
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: plus ms.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: All you had to pay was a sanctionary fee that
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: we all do, whether it's two three percent, he's saying
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: three hundred and thirty k.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: But because you already did it, and now people acknowledging
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: all of it, because what's gonna happen is this and
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: this is what I mean. It's either gonna start two things.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Either they set an example on Crawford or it becomes
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: a movement.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: And what do we want to do? Right, I could say, oh,
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: I'm a fight for this.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: But I'm gonna defend my belts and everything like that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: But if I could get away with not paying the sanction.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: But he but he did pay fees to the other
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: sanctioned bodies. But his argument was, can you guys agree
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: to the same amount I'm giving all the other sanction
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: of bodies. He wasn't saying he didn't want to pay
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: them anything. He just said, hey, there's a lot of
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: belts a lot of money here. The WBO is accepting
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: X amount, you know, the second right. So he's frustrated, like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: why why I have to give you guys more? Now,
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: I'm not throwing a shot at the w C. I
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: loved him. I just came from Thailand working with them.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: But you got to see his side as well. Everybody
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: else agreed on whatever the number was. I don't know.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: He's just saying, why couln't y'all follow suit and work
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: with me and negotiate. That's that's Bud's argument, which is
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: also on.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: The sense it still take It doesn't take away the
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: fact that you still got to pay that sanctioning fee
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: to become three time undisputed.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, but the fight is what
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: made him three times undisputed.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I get what you're saying. I guess technically, and he.
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: Beat Canelo, who was understanding at one sixty eight.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't let them take that from you, even though
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: they should acknowledge you as such.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: But you did do it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: But why is it not there?
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Don't I don't know, got to come together.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: You don't think the public opinion is more important than
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: a stat in the history books.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: I'm not even in the history books, but I get
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: what he's saying.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: He needs to be in the history I give it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: It was on.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: ESPN for disputing if Lomo would have won, they would.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Have they would have gave it to Lo.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: So so they got some ship with us.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Man, that is some ship because they think we're racist.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: Man, it's nothing. It's not that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: In New York.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: But but what about those those comments that people were
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: saying that races and they claim that you send bananas
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: to to Keishawn's room and all that. Look, I know
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: you personally, and I don't know you to be racist
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: at all, right, but do you regret any of those antics?
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: And I know why, I guess I figured why you
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: thought you had to do it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Scarface.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: It's a scarface moment right now when you see you,
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: when you see me, point your finger, point your finger
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: and say, that's the bad guy. I'm the bad guy
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: of boxing.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: So that's what it was.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: But that's what they want to portray it as because
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: no one else could do something like I do nothing,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: not the.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: Whole part of the fruit.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Certain, but let me let me, let me regroup back
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: on this. Let me regroup back on this.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Though.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: When you ask me that question, why is it that way?
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: I could say it's the three gateway I never chose on.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: I could say that I'm just trying to do something,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: and and and authentically, I could say that I probably
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: the odds wasn't meant for me to have those flowers
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: to do it, but something much higher caused it for
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: me to do a cause and chain of reaction I
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: still don't know.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: But the one thing I'm not going.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: To do is is allow something that that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Is not, that's not powerful more than I am, to
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: dictate where I should be and how I should move
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: my life.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: So because it's working, if if if it's still working,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: it ain't broke, don't fix it right, and I'm maintained
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: on that. I think certain things in this world tend
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: to lead on. Let's just fixate it on that, right.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: But let's I can know how to make you a
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: celebrity overnight, but I ain't choose that. I just want
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: to be the best at what I do, and some
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: people may not like that. So yeah, there's ways to
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: scratch it off, rewrite it. They don't done it with
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: the Bible and many other things, So what am I
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: to it? So when we got your cold, now cool,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: let's see what else we could pursue and what we
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: could do. Let's see how much longer can my so
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: called authenticity continue to carry on in this in this
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: industry of boxing.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: So what did you mean when you when you said
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about tanking Bud, you said, whichever monkey
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: wants the banana?
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because it's like I'm trying to get fights.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: And it's been leading. It's been it's been led up
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: for a long time, you know what I'm saying. It's
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: been let up for a long time. So I tried
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: different ways in different avenues, had contracts thrown and all
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: that and never happen, and nothing ever happened. So I
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: was like, yo, you know what I used to grow
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: up watching young.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: Other fighters forties fifties.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: I'm talking nineteen forties fifties where they used to go
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: at each other like this, and then what about Yeah.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I typed to say, I'm gonna eat your.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: Kids and all this. Right, you know what I'm saying?
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: Do you love me? Right?
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: So what happened to I just grew up from that hardcoreness.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: That's how I looked at it, you know what I mean?
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: And that's what I love the most. Why I wanted
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: to put on a pair of boxing gloves was because
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: it was hardcore.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: It was rugged, you know, it wasn't none of this different.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: And that's where I had to adjust.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: And I was like, Okay, cool, I get where everybody
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: coming from, but don't put me and portray me like that,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: because I'm just coming from what I grew up on.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: The not the baiting, but just the fact like I'm
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: gonna just get you under your skin till we just
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: lace it up and then really make a full pack
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: action fighting.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: But why not stand on it? Even with the Keshan Davids.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Like I said, it was an anonymous package of watermelons
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and bananas.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Then why not stand on it and be like, how.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: You mean like that?
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Say that you sent it because I didn't.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: We didn't do that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: No, No, I know you said on our show that
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: you didn't do it. But if people were assuming that
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: you did, and you putting the video on. To Charlemagne's point,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: why not say I let them believe that I did it, because.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: It's just like promote the fight that you just said that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: All right, So basically it's like this.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: You you you put a lie out there in front
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: of everybody's face.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Let people talk about you.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Now, I just took away from his action of his
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: fight leading up to a world title.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: Now it's on me whether it's good.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: There's no such thing as good or bad publicity unless
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: you hit a woman or you call some murder or
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: something like that to the point where you got to,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: you know, a monk shot. But other than that, it
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: shouldn't lead to that case scenario.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: So I just I went with it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: But when it came to ACN Barack and I got
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: on they show, I literally set it out like it is,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: I ain't.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: Doing none of that, you know, because you really didn't exactly.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: But when they label you that, then they want to
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: keep it going.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Like they said, you use the N word on Instagram Live,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: but you said you didn't.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: No, I didn't.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: So I'd rather just you know, like, hey, if that's
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: something the only way that they could get me out,
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: then I'm winning. If that is the only way you
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: could find ways to get me out, because you can't.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Do it in the ring, I'm winning life. I'm winning.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: I'm winning big time. And and I'd rather just keep
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: it like that. I don't. I don't come in here
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: with a full squad. I'm not. I'm not like that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: I think it takes a real man to.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Go and do his things in a in a mafia
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: mafioso world and still hold it down to the t
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: and just be like I'm gonna do what I do and.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: Ain't nobody gonna stop me.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, what about this when it's the last one when
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you was frustrated with top rank, what's up? And you said,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: if they want the black fighters, they can keep them.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Would that mean didn't have their select.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: I look at it like, yeah, I just want to
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: start some chaos. You start some chaos, let it be known, conflict.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: What it's all?
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: What is everything in life in this world and politics
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: and all that. It starts with what conflict with chaos conflict.
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: I've saw articles about you where you've said, or they've
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: implied that you feel like they always choose the black
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: fighters over you. Is that where that comes from?
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: No?
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: No, no, because if we really want to take it there,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: then look at Mayweather.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: With Oscar de Laoya when they were signed with Top Rank.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Oscar was getting more of the fruit of the barrier
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: and Floyd felt like he wasn't getting his fast share,
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: to the point where he finally left with them. He
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: had to pay seven hundred and fifty K to leave
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: Top Rank and then they ended up fighting each other, right,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: or what about when we talk about Bernard Hoghs and
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Felix Trinidad and Bernard Hopkins throws the Puerto Rican flag
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: and he got mobbed by the Puerto Ricans. So if
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be it's gonna be a double standard, then
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: it can't be on one side anymore. And but but
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: that's the thing. See, I don't got.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: I don't have that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: I guess so called agency that's behind me to support
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: me and find ways to move around it. I'm learning
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: on the job. I'm learning as I go. I'm twenty eight,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: so I got God willingly. I still got time to
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: learn from it. And that's why I've been more on
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: an easy edge. I ain't trying to deal with it
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: no more. I'm just gonna look how I do it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Be Whoever they put in front of me win impressively.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Thank the universe for it all.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: Keep it moving.
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: What have you lost outside of you know, not being
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: listed as undisputed? But what have you lost behind the
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: scenes that keeps you on that easy edge? It seems
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: like you stepping real carefully now, Like, where does that
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: come from?
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: I think it's just h you got to plan out
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: your years.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Feel me, I don't win broke already like twice, I
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: ain't trying to deal that no more.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: Feel me.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Eventually people gonna blackmail you and do all this extra stuff,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: and that's cool.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: You learn with it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: But knowing that you got a family, knowing you got
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: all these things, you can't just go on for the
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: work field thinking that it's always going to be there.
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: You mean by field, just work field first January for it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: You can, Yeah, you can swell.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: Aout.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: No, I do one more question for him when when
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you're in the ring and you see you know, when
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you when you see your opponents right what lets them know?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: What lets you know that they're like mentally broken, not
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: just physically but mentally, Like, okay, I got them mentally.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: I guess it's my my stance. Right away, they feel
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: that area, they feel that energy right away. I see
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: their eyes is different. You can see a lot in
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: the person with their eyes. So I always look at
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: the eyes. So I don't know, Maybe it's just what.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know how hard I do punch, But when
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: I punch them, ship changes right, changes quick. So yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: you know, I think that's really it. Yeah, man, why
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: why you got one of them shakers?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Not even jerking and ship?
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: Since he gave.
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: Us a Christmas does he wants you to ask the.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Thirty first good luck?
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: You should call Stevenson after guard and get your tickets
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: if you haven't got him all ready.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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  Speaker 4: Every day Ago clip Breakfast Club Finish for y'all