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55KRC Thursday Show - Ken Kober, Warren Davidson, Abe Lincoln, Tim McGrath, Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Thomas Massey and the Epstein Files got some comments about that.
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Speaker 1: signed the Well Disclosed the Epstein File bill into law.
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Speaker 1: the disclos the files and cars mess. He's made some
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Speaker 1: be revealed in the Epstein Files. Bobcorn's been out on
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Speaker 1: that one. Greg Landsman on House BILLT five to three
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Speaker 1: that was also there fifty five Caros dot com podcast
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Speaker 1: again when you can't listen live coming up Kenkober FOP President.
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Speaker 1: We got some money coming into the police department, some
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Speaker 1: big spending I think between now in twenty thirty three,
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Speaker 1: forty one million dollars on some new technology we got to.
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Speaker 1: Of course, we have drones, we have tasers, we have
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Speaker 1: virtual reality headsets and data cloud storage, all coming from
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Speaker 1: one company, a company called Axon. Some are worried that
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Speaker 1: it's kind of becoming a monopoly, this Axon company. When
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Speaker 1: it comes to well tasers, you know, the yellow tasers,
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Speaker 1: that's who makes them. But they also make the body
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Speaker 1: of the video cameras, the body the body cameras, that
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Speaker 1: make dashboard cameras. They make these virtual reality headsets so
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Speaker 1: the officers can be trained on proper taser usage, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of it of course proprietary. I thought it
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Speaker 1: was kind of funny since I inquires David Ferrari to
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Speaker 1: the reporting on this, and there's a senior investigative researcher
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Speaker 1: for the Electronics Frontier Foundation. I've heard of that, Beryl Lipton. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: senior investigative researcher. Give her credit for the observation she makes,
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Speaker 1: but it was one of the well no crap concerns
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Speaker 1: about how this company's becoming so dominant and it's making
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Speaker 1: departments well, relying on this technology, and because there's not
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of competition out there, she's a little
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Speaker 1: worried that, well, they might make it difficult for police
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Speaker 1: departments to go elsewhere. And I'm thinking, so, well, if
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Speaker 1: you were in Axon's position, wouldn't you make it difficult?
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Speaker 1: She says, Companies like Accent are very interested in getting
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Speaker 1: their customers and then keeping their customers. Interesting business philosophy,
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Speaker 1: isn't it, Joe getting customers and keeping customers, and nobody
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Speaker 1: does that. Never would have thought of that, She went on.
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Speaker 1: They can make the effort it takes to trans to
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Speaker 1: a different platform or offload information so great that customers
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Speaker 1: don't try to do that. Well, someone wrote no S
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Speaker 1: word next to that. Oh that was me. Why would
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Speaker 1: Axxon have any incentive to make the moving of data
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Speaker 1: from their systems, regardless of what it is, including their
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Speaker 1: own cloud storage base, for all the information the officers
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Speaker 1: recording on their let's say, dashboard cameras or body cameras,
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Speaker 1: or the drones, because they make drones too, so I
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Speaker 1: can't imagine access or action on havingy incentive to do that.
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Speaker 1: So they are apparently protecting their own turf. Once they
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Speaker 1: establish themselves, maybe they market a great product. There's no
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Speaker 1: reason to move I don't know. You know what, if
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Speaker 1: there is money to be made out in the world
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Speaker 1: along these lines with this technology, somebody else is going
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Speaker 1: to make it anyway. I'll see if Ken has any
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Speaker 1: problem with the company, any problem with the allocation of
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Speaker 1: money the technology, well that's what we have them on
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Speaker 1: four six point thirty. With that, Congressman Warren Davidson returns
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Speaker 1: seven o five, we'll talk a little Epstein and now
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Speaker 1: that they have been released in the government's back up
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Speaker 1: and what's going on? What are we going to see
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Speaker 1: accomplished on behalf of the American people, Maybe more moves
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Speaker 1: toward energy generation. And I see that there's a whole
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Speaker 1: lot of movement. Thank God for the artificial intelligence, and
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Speaker 1: for no other reason, it's causing us all to wake
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Speaker 1: up to the reality that windmills and solar panels don't work.
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Speaker 1: Don't work. We've got some nuclear power arrangements dealing with
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Speaker 1: a Japan's investment of hundreds of billions of dollars talking
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Speaker 1: about building ten brand new nuclear power plants. We've got
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Speaker 1: new We have a military bases now pursuing that Janus project,
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Speaker 1: which allows small nuclear reactors to power our American military bases,
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Speaker 1: most utaly getting ahead of it in times of crisis.
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Speaker 1: So everywhere you turn, more and more embraced in the concept.
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Speaker 1: So it's abundant power. It can be done efficiently and
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Speaker 1: certainly on a far less expensive basis than we've been
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Speaker 1: done we've done in the past. Let's just move forward
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Speaker 1: with that. So maybe that's part of the conversation with
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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. Will find out together again at seven oh
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Speaker 1: five seven point thirty Empower You. We have a former president,
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Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln will be speaking live. Remember Abraham Lincoln who
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Speaker 1: said if you read it on the internet, it's true.
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Speaker 1: Actually it's Larry Elliott. He portrays Late Abraham Lincoln does
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Speaker 1: school presentations and other groups. He's doing the Empower Youth
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Speaker 1: Seminar taking place at three hundred Great Oaks Drive if
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Speaker 1: from home. One hundred and sixty second anniversary of the
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Speaker 1: Gettysburg Address. One hundred and sixty second anniversary that was yesterday.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing eighteen sixty three. So he will embody Abe
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Speaker 1: Lincoln as he does when he does these presentations, his
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Speaker 1: viewpoint of history, as he Abraham Lincoln lived it through
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Speaker 1: the heart and mind of Larry Elliott. So doesn't straight
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Speaker 1: out a character. He remains Abraham Lincoln method actor throughout
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Speaker 1: the entire thing. Well, it's an Abraham Lincoln morning. So
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Speaker 1: we have Tim mcgra coming up at eight five with
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Speaker 1: he's got a book called Three Roads to Gettysburg Mead
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Speaker 1: and the ad e Lee Lincoln and the Battle that
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Speaker 1: changed the Nation. So, uh, revelatory account about the Battle
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Speaker 1: of Gettysburg and the Three Roads that Gettysburg. Will learn
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Speaker 1: a little bit about it from him, and you'll be
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Speaker 1: able to get a copy of fifty five Carosea dot com.
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Speaker 1: He shines a light on a guy named George Mead.
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Speaker 1: Remember George Mead? Yeah, I don't either. I just find
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Speaker 1: it so amazing to talk to so many book authors
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Speaker 1: about so many conflicts war's boiled down, and you find
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Speaker 1: out even well, in this particular case, one hundred plus
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Speaker 1: years after the fact, there's all these extraordinarily influential people
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Speaker 1: in American history that you've never heard of. If you've
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Speaker 1: heard of George of Mead props to you. You know
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Speaker 1: a lot more about it than I do. And that's
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Speaker 1: what we're going to have Timograth on at eight oh
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Speaker 1: five and then yay, what happens on Thursday, typically on
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Speaker 1: the fifty five Cassee Morning Show. Well up until last
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Speaker 1: month or so, it's been I heard the aviation expert
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Speaker 1: Jay Rattliff. Jay's back. Thank you to all the prayers
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Speaker 1: you put out in hopes that he would get over
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Speaker 1: his bells palsy quickly, and apparently it's work, so he's
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Speaker 1: joining the program. At eight thirty, Trump administration has decided
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Speaker 1: to withdraw the cash compensation rule that would have required
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Speaker 1: airlines to pay cash for delays. FAA has ended the
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Speaker 1: emergency order mandating flight reductions that happen on Monday. Yay,
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Speaker 1: right ahead of the Thanksgiving week. And oh look on
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Speaker 1: the subject list with Jay. Thanksgiving week approaches are airlines ready?
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Speaker 1: And finally, late edition. Just because you paid for a
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Speaker 1: Windows seat, that doesn't entitle you to a view I
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Speaker 1: see set the article along as an add on. He said,
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Speaker 1: you want to talk about this as well? Oh yes,
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Speaker 1: I do. Entitlement mentality. Wait a second, I should to
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Speaker 1: be able to see out of the window seat. No,
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Speaker 1: you didn't get a window seat, you got the aisle seat.
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Speaker 1: Sucks to be You planned better next time. Oh and
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Speaker 1: also when we talked to Ken Culver Charmie mcguffe. You
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Speaker 1: remember her, Jae. You remember Charmeie McGuffey, don't you. She's
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Speaker 1: the sheriff kind of keeps a low profile except when
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Speaker 1: it comes to ribbon cutting ceremonies and like LGBTQ Pride
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Speaker 1: events and things like that. Anyway, apparently she's coming out
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Speaker 1: today to address violence violence in the city. Apparently, and
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Speaker 1: according to WCPO, overall crimes dropped thirty one percent in
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Speaker 1: July from a June peak and steadily declining every month
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Speaker 1: in Hamilton County, Sheriff Charmeie McGuffey, along with us, since
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Speaker 1: they please, Interim Chief Adam Henny and State Patrol Colonel
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Speaker 1: Charles Jones, gonna be addressing the success of recent crime
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Speaker 1: reduction efforts. We'll see what Charmie McGuffey has to say
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Speaker 1: about that. Do you feel like it's safer in downtown Cincinnati?
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Speaker 1: Maybe it will be wait to hear about the allocation
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Speaker 1: of resources four million dollars the city is allocated for
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Speaker 1: the purchase of a West End property. Question why are
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Speaker 1: they buying it? And dive on into that stick with
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Speaker 1: a couple of local stories this morning, stay around or
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Speaker 1: phone calls, that's up to you. Be right back after
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Speaker 1: these brief words, relief, release it, release it all. Some
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Speaker 1: rain over Friday night as well on into Saturday morning
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Speaker 1: Happy Thursday five one three, seven, four nine fifty five
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Speaker 1: hundred two three talk Contact fifty on eight and T phones.
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Speaker 1: So it's kind of going vacillated between issues on money
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Speaker 1: being spent because the city of Cincinnati has some extra
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Speaker 1: money laying around four million dollars since he's got to
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Speaker 1: be paying four million dollars to acquire a property near
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Speaker 1: one of the and this has got me worried. One
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Speaker 1: of the potential sites for a new arena, do we
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Speaker 1: need a new arena? In order of priority? Where's a
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Speaker 1: new arena given the finite amount of money we have
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Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati and this property acquisition is
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Speaker 1: not like we are going to build a new arena here.
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Speaker 1: They're just grabbing the property. It's a point eight acre
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Speaker 1: vacant parcel on by the Free Store food Bank, cross
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Speaker 1: Central Avenue from Town Center Garage, which the city owns,
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Speaker 1: right behind Music Hall. Potential location for a new arena.
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Speaker 1: Thank you the WITC since I inquire reporting also the
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Speaker 1: w CET. It's remember the since a public radio in
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Speaker 1: the CET building where CET still is. That's the one
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Speaker 1: we're talking about. The unanimously passed funding agreement council did
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Speaker 1: on the nineteenth yesterday may have tab purval. Other city
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Speaker 1: leaders said the purchase is not for and arena, but
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Speaker 1: for the city to control what they described as a
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Speaker 1: critical property.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 1: Still as the enquire voids, oh property's location indicates it
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Speaker 1: could provide a key piece in the arena discussion. FC
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati officials, well, they approached the city about buying the land.
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Speaker 1: According to Jeff Grammerty Councilman Jeff Birding, one of the
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Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati owners co owners, been on one of the
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Speaker 1: leading proponents for the city getting a new arena, most
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Speaker 1: notably as long as it's in the backyard of FC Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: I guess apparently FC had an option to purchase the
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Speaker 1: land from the Free Store, at least according to Jeff Grammerty. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: under this funding agreement, the city is going to be
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Speaker 1: giving the Port of Greater Cincinnati Development Authority the four
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Speaker 1: million dollars to buy the land. They then acquire the
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Speaker 1: land from the Free Store for three point five million.
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Speaker 1: The additional half a million dollars apparently includes and other costs.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Liam. I was waiting for that, Joe, Actually
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Speaker 1: I really was. I hope just fingers on the whatever button.
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Speaker 1: Uh Purvol greased palm index. Thank you. Yesterday's meeting, Mayor
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Speaker 1: said the city is not purchasing the property for an arena.
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Speaker 1: The city is purchasing the property to put it under
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Speaker 1: city control and not in control of an out of
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Speaker 1: town landlord whatever court of Purvol. Quote. It's not meant
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Speaker 1: to be a purchase specifically for an arena close quote.
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Speaker 1: He also said the city's interest is in this is
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Speaker 1: not for any specific project, whether it be an arena
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Speaker 1: or anything else, but rather for the city to have
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Speaker 1: control and not some other investor developer that doesn't have
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Speaker 1: the city's interest in mind, he gives us more control
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Speaker 1: over what goes in that critical place. I just consider
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Speaker 1: all the potentially available land around the city of Cincinnati
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Speaker 1: that the city doesn't own itself. This is the one
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Speaker 1: piece that they have to allocate four million dollars to acquire.
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Speaker 1: And has there been a discussion on their actual need
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Speaker 1: for an arena? Oh, adding insult to injury, let's move
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Speaker 1: out county wide. Remember that thirty percent rollback that we
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Speaker 1: were promised when we agreed to pay for the stadium. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: well sucks to be You never believe a politician get
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Speaker 1: it in writing and have it part of the ballot initiative,
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Speaker 1: or you're not going to get the promise rebate. So
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Speaker 1: before we reprove the half sent sales tax to fund
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Speaker 1: the construction and maintenance of well the Great American Ballpark
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Speaker 1: and now Paycorse Stadium. That was thirty years ago, if
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Speaker 1: you can believe it, at the time, our county elected
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Speaker 1: officials verbally promised a property tax rebate. We were gonna
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Speaker 1: get back thirty percent of the annual sales tax proceeds.
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Speaker 1: Right Remember that. No, it wasn't including the ballot in language.
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Speaker 1: So they played fast and loose with it since they
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Speaker 1: made the promise. That promise was probably one of the
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Speaker 1: reasons people decided to go ahead and vote to build
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Speaker 1: the Brown family a stadium to be used by and
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Speaker 1: exclusively for their team. So we have a new memo
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Speaker 1: from County Commissioner Jeff Aaludo recommending a five million dollar
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Speaker 1: total rebate equal to not thirty percent, four point five
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Speaker 1: percent property tax rebate, described as one of the smallest
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Speaker 1: rebate levels ever and causing you to see a higher
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Speaker 1: tax bill. If this it's doing idiot things because there
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Speaker 1: idio is maybe misapplied. If we had one that said
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Speaker 1: liars committing lies, because that, well, they're liars and their
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Speaker 1: politicians will be more appropriate here. That means for every
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars a property bag, you're going to
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Speaker 1: get a whopping twelve dollars and fifty one cents. Had
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Speaker 1: it been the actual thirty percent rollback, you would have
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Speaker 1: gotten eighty two dollars and twenty seven cents per one
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand. That was the promise they made, you, Commissioner
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Speaker 1: to the Denise Treehouse, reflecting back on the promise that
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Speaker 1: the then elected officials running the county promise back in
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Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties now describing it as unrealistic and that
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Speaker 1: the stadium fund would go broke if the county gave
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Speaker 1: the full rebate every year whatever, the stadium fund would
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Speaker 1: go broke. Huh, thank you appreciate that, liar. There you go.
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Speaker 1: You know, actually I was going to a request shoe
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Speaker 1: Henry Rawlins, liar, that would have been an outstanding bump
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Speaker 1: to play before. But you know this was elected officials
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Speaker 1: thirty years ago. They're the liars. Or does the obligation
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Speaker 1: to make good on a promise to the taxpayer in
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Speaker 1: Hamilton County does that survive the prior administration and extend
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Speaker 1: on into current administrations. I would make an argument that
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Speaker 1: it does. Well, we could vote them all out, but
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Speaker 1: you know how that goes, Joe. We are the embodiment
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Speaker 1: of the definition of stupidity doing idiot things because they're
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Speaker 1: idiots doing the same thing over and over again, expecting
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Speaker 1: a different results. Jays on the phone, Jay, you'll be
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Speaker 1: first out of the gate. Feel free to give me
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Speaker 1: a call, but.
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Speaker 4: Break back fifty five KRC.
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Speaker 1: It's five twenty nine, it's Thursday. I'm going to happy
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Speaker 1: one to you one week from Thanksgiving over the phones. Tom,
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Speaker 1: hang on, Jay, guy ahead of you this morning, Jay,
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Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.
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Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, two days in a row in front
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Speaker 5: of Tom. Something's off. I'm going to have to delay
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Speaker 5: this call going.
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Speaker 1: Forward or call earlier. Either way, it's okay. Jay.
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Speaker 3: Hey.
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Speaker 5: Usually I call in and I'm complaining about the government
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Speaker 5: waste and abuse. But you know, this morning you were
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Speaker 5: talking about law enforcement tech, and I have a brainstorm
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Speaker 5: here of how we can save money across the Ohio
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Speaker 5: and Hamilton County and therefore free up some money for
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Speaker 5: Iris Rawley more of her consulting fees, or maybe another stadium.
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Speaker 5: I think what I have, Brian, is a solution where
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Speaker 5: we can take the cost of ankle monitors down substantially.
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Speaker 5: The ankle monitor, if I just did some quick research,
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Speaker 5: it costs about let's say forty I think it's aid
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Speaker 5: four hundred and fifty dollars a month for the service
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Speaker 5: fee to monitor these things. And let's say we have
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Speaker 5: about one hundred of them for a given locale. So
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Speaker 5: let's just let's say fifty thousand dollars for the city
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Speaker 5: of Cincinnati or something like that.
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Speaker 2: I have a solution.
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Speaker 5: The cost of fraction of that has it's just as
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Speaker 5: effective and monitoring what we currently have. And it looks
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Speaker 5: a lot like a shoelace that you just tie around
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Speaker 5: your leg. It's completely reusable, it's easy to take off.
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Speaker 6: The.
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Speaker 5: Criminal doesn't have to try to cut it off. And
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Speaker 5: again it's one hundred percent is effective. And we're thinking
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Speaker 5: maybe we just put that like Ohio official ankle monitor
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Speaker 5: on on that shoelace and tie that around the criminal's
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Speaker 5: leg and thereby free up about fifty grand for every
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Speaker 5: city across the state of Ohio. And that adds up
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Speaker 5: when you think about it. And again, one percent effective
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Speaker 5: as our current solution.
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Speaker 1: Your point being a shoelace, non technologically advanced shoelace, plain
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Speaker 1: old shoelace and a designated color is as effective as
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Speaker 1: the ankle monitors see Sarah Herringer correct.
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Speaker 5: And I would be even willing to just take that
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Speaker 5: maintenance fee down to two dollars a month collectable by Jay, and.
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Speaker 1: It's still a fat profit margin. Jay. Consider the cost
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Speaker 1: of a shoelace.
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Speaker 5: Well, you drive a tough bargain, Brian, So I'll cut
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Speaker 5: it in half one time only, we'll take it down
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Speaker 5: to a dollar a month. But I'm looking for a sponsor.
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Speaker 2: So if it could say fifty five KRC on that.
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Speaker 5: Shoelace sponsor, maybe I get my dollar back.
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Speaker 1: No, I just centered into another possibility. How about sponsoring
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Speaker 1: actual anchor ankle monitors and using the profit from these
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Speaker 1: sponsorships to actually have people monitoring the ankle bracelets.
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Speaker 5: Oh you mean privatize it to where there's a profit
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Speaker 5: involved in a private business that could actually do something.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that do that Axos company has a it's foot
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Speaker 1: in the door with taking that.
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Speaker 5: They call them ankle monitor monitors.
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Speaker 1: There you are.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
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Speaker 1: You're on the right track.
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Speaker 5: Hey, don't don't don't vote Democrat, don't vote Rhino.
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Speaker 1: Off the Tom off the top. Thanks Jay, Yes, as
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Speaker 1: this tradition. Tom, thanks for calling this morning. Appreciate appreciate
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Speaker 1: hearing from you.
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Speaker 6: In case no one got it, the absurdity was intentional
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Speaker 6: to point out another absurdity.
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Speaker 1: Oh indeed. Yeah, that's high comedy right.
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Speaker 6: There, right, no good stuff. I have no problem with
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Speaker 6: with Jay going in front of me and taking this
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Speaker 6: spot whatever. I always get a lot of information out
20:56
Speaker 6: of Jay and and usually a good laugh too, So
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Speaker 6: thank you. Very much. Jay, appreciate it. I I wanted
21:04
Speaker 6: to talk about money being spent by the government. You
21:07
Speaker 6: talked about the city buying that that plant of land.
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Speaker 6: Another one that I was talking to Joe about was
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Speaker 6: co Rane Township buying the old Seers store in the
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Speaker 6: in the soon to be defunct North State Mall. Just
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Speaker 6: what there's what two stores left in it or something
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Speaker 6: like that.
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Speaker 1: Tom, I did not even know that that was still
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Speaker 1: open in any form.
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Speaker 6: So okay, right, well you can't. I don't think you
21:32
Speaker 6: can go into the mall itself. It's just like they
21:36
Speaker 6: they made some stores the Socide Basic Cole Raine. They
21:39
Speaker 6: made some stores that you you would just entered directly
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Speaker 6: into the store from the side.
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Speaker 1: So the interior mall concept has been closed down, Jee
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Speaker 1: Strecker said, most of it. It's shut down on the inside.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, there was a there was a furniture store
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Speaker 6: that moved across the street. Uh and then yeah, so
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Speaker 6: but yeah, Coraine Township decided to buy the Seers store,
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Speaker 6: just the store, just the Seer store, and that no
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Speaker 6: one knows why. They haven't stated a purpose, but's just
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Speaker 6: taxpayer money. You go, we'll just kind of buy this.
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Speaker 6: You don't even have a plan. You don't know what
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Speaker 6: it's for. You can't even tell us that, hey, we've
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Speaker 6: got this grand plan to do something with it. No,
22:18
Speaker 6: it's just there's there's a big pot of money. Let's
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Speaker 6: find something to spend it on or we won't be
22:23
Speaker 6: able to ask for more next time, which which we
22:26
Speaker 6: all know is is a big part of all these
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Speaker 6: levees and and you know these budget requests at these
22:33
Speaker 6: what whatever government level it is, we have to spend it.
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Speaker 6: That way, we can say, oh, we ran out, we
22:39
Speaker 6: need even more this year than we did last year.
22:43
Speaker 6: And it's it's a farce. What what happened to representing
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Speaker 6: our interests and maybe help lower our taxes or something
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Speaker 6: like that any that, I know it's a crazy idea,
22:54
Speaker 6: but you know why, why why aren't we getting people
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Speaker 6: in there that are doing that and and holding them
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Speaker 6: to a Yeah, you're not going to hold politicians to
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Speaker 6: a promise like that. Maybe if you get it like
23:05
Speaker 6: enshrine into some law or something like that so that
23:08
Speaker 6: you know, somebody can actually take them to court and
23:11
Speaker 6: a judge can hold them accountable. But unless you got
23:13
Speaker 6: something like that, you know, well, whenever a politician speaks,
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Speaker 6: you can just assume they're lying, especially if they're Democrat,
23:21
Speaker 6: especially if they're Rhinos. So don't vote Rhino, don't vote Democrat.
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Speaker 6: Have a great day, a man, brother.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, listen, get it in writing. This
23:32
Speaker 1: is a profound lesson that has been learned as a
23:34
Speaker 1: consequence of this refusal over and over and over again
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Speaker 1: to give us what was promised verbally. Roll back. You
23:42
Speaker 1: were entitled to thirty percent of it, baseball. Your politicians
23:44
Speaker 1: told you why wasn't in in the ballid initiative? Maybe
23:47
Speaker 1: because from the get go they knew damn well that
23:49
Speaker 1: you were never going to get it. In other words,
23:52
Speaker 1: they lied to you, You were duped, and you fell
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Speaker 1: for it. Let us be a valuable and to everyone
24:00
Speaker 1: when we're considering these ballot initiatives, the promises made orally
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Speaker 1: versus the written language that you're asked to consider. Five
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Speaker 1: thirty five fifty five KRCD talk station stack o stupid
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Speaker 1: or phone calls, either way you want to go, I'm
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Speaker 1: alright with That'd.
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Speaker 4: Be right back fifty five KRC.
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Speaker 1: Five thirty nine fifty five kr CD talk station Friday,
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Speaker 1: even the return of I Hurt Media abs expert Jay
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Speaker 1: Ratlife at eight thirty. I'm so happy he's back. God
24:28
Speaker 1: bless you, Jay Rattliffe. We have a lot of guests
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Speaker 1: lined up this morning, including Congressman Warren Davidson at seven
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Speaker 1: oh five, five one three, seven four nine fifty five hundred,
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Speaker 1: eight hundred eight two three talk pound five fifty on
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Speaker 1: at and T phones. This is absolutely horrific and disgusting
24:41
Speaker 1: and should be a giant red flag for all parents,
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Speaker 1: even parents of very young children who are attending school
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Speaker 1: and are apparently being taught by perverts, twisted, depraved individuals.
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Speaker 1: They may be at the head of the classroom. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: positions of power children involve. This has happened with members
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Speaker 1: of the clergy. You may recall incidents of that. We
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Speaker 1: got a Connecticut where a former what is described as
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Speaker 1: a paraprofessional teacher admitted to texting an eleven year old
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Speaker 1: boy almost five thousand times, handing him gifts including Apple AirPods,
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Speaker 1: and keeping him awake with caffeine because she was sexually
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Speaker 1: assaulting him when she arranged to meet with him in
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Speaker 1: late night hours. Forty four year old married mother of two,
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Speaker 1: Alison Krannik pleaded to go to the federal charges of
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Speaker 1: course and an enticement of a minor to engage in
25:43
Speaker 1: sexual activity cour to the US Attorney's Office for the
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Speaker 1: District of Connecticut and announcement earlier this week. She lured
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Speaker 1: the child to meet up with her over a course
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Speaker 1: of several months in twenty twenty two, driving him around
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Speaker 1: at different locations where she then forced him to engage
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Speaker 1: in sexually explicit conduct with her. She was an admin
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Speaker 1: assistant with the E. O. Smith High School in Mansfield
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Speaker 1: until she was fired in September of twenty three. She
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Speaker 1: met with a boy at least fourteen times, some cases
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Speaker 1: with public school employee coercing the boy to sneak out
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Speaker 1: of his house after midnight. He's eleven, driving around Columbia
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Speaker 1: leg Corus Porter School in Columbia or the Salmon River
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Speaker 1: State forests, where she would sexually assault the miner in
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Speaker 1: her car when it was late at night. She would
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Speaker 1: buy caffeinated drinks for him to keep him awake and
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Speaker 1: ordered gifts for him and gave him gifts like Apple AirPods,
26:34
Speaker 1: also a pellet gun, which is really appealing to an
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Speaker 1: eleven year old boy. Started messaging the boy over text
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Speaker 1: on Snapchat, then suggested they move over to the messaging
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Speaker 1: platform Discord. Why because she had learned that one of
26:48
Speaker 1: the child's family members would check the youngster's messages. Huh,
26:51
Speaker 1: as well as social media accounts. That's a responsible parent
26:54
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. Sadly, there are options for the
26:57
Speaker 1: weirdos out in the world, and they're aware of this
26:59
Speaker 1: kind of thing, and they'll change platforms on you. So
27:02
Speaker 1: there's another thing you need to be aware of, Mom
27:04
Speaker 1: and dad. Between July and October of twenty two, she
27:08
Speaker 1: and the boy messaged more than forty seven hundred times
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Speaker 1: on this discord platform. She even made the boy a bracelet.
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Speaker 1: This is how perverted and twisted she had. She made
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Speaker 1: him a bracelet with the acronym BB or BFFLWB best
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Speaker 1: Friends for Life with Benefits. Apparently, the preteen boy cut
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Speaker 1: off contact and refused to meet up with her after
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Speaker 1: she emotionally manipulated him into spending more time with her.
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Speaker 1: That's according to the warrant. They launched an investigation into
27:41
Speaker 1: the sexual assault in September of twenty three. She was
27:44
Speaker 1: arrested in November of that year. Federal charges handed down
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Speaker 1: in July of last year, case investigator of the FBI's
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Speaker 1: Child Exploitation Task Force as well as the Connecticut Police Department.
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Speaker 1: She is now facing and deserves, in my estimation, life
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Speaker 1: in prison with a mandatory minimum of ten years imprisonment.
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Speaker 1: Let's go for life February twelfth, next year sentencing.
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Speaker 7: EERI is the biggest douche of the universe, in all
28:11
Speaker 7: the galaxies. There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached
28:17
Speaker 7: the top, the pinnacle of douche dom. Good going, doue, your.
28:23
Speaker 1: Dreams have come true. Sharing in that award, we go
28:29
Speaker 1: to a New Jersey police sergeant, former Democratic mayor Andrew
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Speaker 1: le Bruno, who was arrested this week in charge with
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Speaker 1: aggravated sexual assault and sexual assault as well as endangering
28:39
Speaker 1: the welfare of a child. Jersey City Police sergeant Andrew
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Speaker 1: Lobruno accused of drugging and sexually assaulting the child he
28:49
Speaker 1: met on There You Have It, a social media app.
28:55
Speaker 1: Investigator say he went to the child's home in Englewood,
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Speaker 1: New Jersey, where he sprayed an unknown substance onto his
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Speaker 1: hand before placing it over the victim's mouth and knows,
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Speaker 1: causing the victim to have experienced dizziness.
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Speaker 4: Do what the hell.
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Speaker 1: The forty four year old Oh again, forty four and
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Speaker 1: married father of two. I see a theme going on here.
29:16
Speaker 1: Joe then sexually assaulted the child, who was physically helpless
29:22
Speaker 1: as a consequence of being drugged. Nine one well call
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Speaker 1: reportedly made a police who responded to the scene, where
29:31
Speaker 1: they found the victims suffering from cognitive impairment. Child taken
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Speaker 1: to local hospital for treatment. Thority say they had enough
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Speaker 1: probable cause evidence to arrest this La Bruno pervert, citing
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Speaker 1: statements the former Democrat mayor made at the scene of
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Speaker 1: the crime, which were captured on body cameras not known
29:47
Speaker 1: if it's their Axos body cameras or not, as well
29:49
Speaker 1: as the victim's account and corroborating physical evidence. Use your imagination, God,
30:00
Speaker 1: spend it without pay. Immediately after the arrest, thankfully, curly
30:05
Speaker 1: being held without bail in the Bergen County jail obviously
30:08
Speaker 1: not in Hamilton County in front of Judge Silverstein. But
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, Joe, Yeah. I hope he's having
30:19
Speaker 1: a really, really good time. I hope he's getting a
30:21
Speaker 1: lot of attention, A lot of attention. Five to forty
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Speaker 1: five ifty five KRCD talk station. More stupid coming up
30:27
Speaker 1: or phone calls. Feel free to comment. I'll be right back.
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Speaker 4: Fifty five KRC see.
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Speaker 1: Fifty five pair CD talk station. FOP President Ken Kober
30:37
Speaker 1: coming on to the bottom of the next hour. You're
30:38
Speaker 1: talking about this forty one million dollar police tech expenditure
30:42
Speaker 1: from the City of Cincinnati. Also, we'll get a little
30:44
Speaker 1: insight to what Charmeie McGuffey. Yeah, she's the sheriff, remember her. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: she's could be holding a press conference talking about how
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Speaker 1: crime is down in the city of Cincinnati. We'll get
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Speaker 1: ken Kober's reaction to that in advance of actually hearing
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Speaker 1: something uttered from Hamilton County Sheriff Charmey mcguffee. Anyway, back
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Speaker 1: to this stack is stupid. Portland, Oregon man robbed a
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Speaker 1: liquor store while an employee was suffering a cardiac arrest.
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Speaker 4: Do what the happened?
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Speaker 6: Man?
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Speaker 1: We got a lot of people piling on and added
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Speaker 1: to the award winners this morning. Took advantage of the
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Speaker 1: medical emergency emergency to steal eight hundred dollars roughly from
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Speaker 1: the safe, before then abandoning the victim, who was again
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Speaker 1: struggling with the cardiac arre ass. Fifty three year old
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Speaker 1: Jason Hay had the heart attack while working at Bin's
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Speaker 1: and Barrel's liquor store. Security camera footage shows a man
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Speaker 1: pretending to help Hay during the medical emergency before stealing
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Speaker 1: from the store and then running away. Dozens of friends
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Speaker 1: of family members held a vigil for him, talking about
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Speaker 1: how he's everyone's best friend, spent most of his life
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Speaker 1: in the area. His sister said her brother would have
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Speaker 1: been able to identify the suspect if he was still alive.
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Speaker 1: Hey left behind a wife, Willissa, and a fifteen year
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Speaker 1: old son. Portland police still investigating the store robbery and
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Speaker 1: their of course, asking for anyone's help who might have
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Speaker 1: seen this miserable piece of excrement. Imagine that not even
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Speaker 1: placed on a nine to one to one call. There's
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Speaker 1: some terrible, terrible human beings in the world. Oh look,
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Speaker 1: we're on a theme this morning, terrible human beings in
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Speaker 1: the stack of stupid. Oh this is fantastic. Thank you
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Speaker 1: Judge Checker for the editorial comments. You're a woman until
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Speaker 1: you're not a woman. Defense attorney for a Washington State
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Speaker 1: lawmark maker thought a motion to dismiss a case involving
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Speaker 1: indecent exposure charges against the client Transgendersvenson City councilor Lucy Lausser,
32:38
Speaker 1: actively involved with Antifon networks. Lausser is accused of unlawfully
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Speaker 1: exposing his quote unquote breasts during an anti Trump protest
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Speaker 1: in July. He's a man who identifies a woman. It's
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Speaker 1: a man man. District Judge Rainier presided over oral arguments
32:59
Speaker 1: on Monday, canncerning his motion to dismiss. I was waiting
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Speaker 1: for that which mandates of the prosecution of defense agree
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Speaker 1: in all faction ahead of it for being to be prosecuted.
33:08
Speaker 1: According to defense attorney Brian Pruitt, my client was protesting
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Speaker 1: the current presidential administration's executive order, which basically put in
33:17
Speaker 1: place that under federal law that there are two genders
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Speaker 1: and that every person is the gender that they were
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Speaker 1: assigned at birth. That's highly offensive to my client, and
33:26
Speaker 1: as a result, on the fourth of July, she chose
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Speaker 1: the protest in a way that clearly addressed that issue.
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Speaker 1: This is back in July this year protests outside the
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Speaker 1: County courthouse, Blausser exposed his breast by removing his shirt
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Speaker 1: now she would prefer that I say he she anyway
33:45
Speaker 1: confusing It always is painted on one arm red paint taped.
33:50
Speaker 1: His mouth and the nipple part were painted in black
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Speaker 1: and inscribed quote woman Life Freedom across his chest. The
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Speaker 1: top display intended to challenge President Trump's executive order in
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Speaker 1: restricting sex change procedures for miners and barring men from
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Speaker 1: competing in women's sports teams, which Lauser would was publicly
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Speaker 1: decrying as dehumanizing. Prosecuting a deputy prosecut prosecuting attorney argued
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Speaker 1: the judge that the counsellor's conduct was against the law,
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Speaker 1: referred Lauser with female protown pronouns during the proceedings. Because
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Speaker 1: miss Lauser's protest was nonverbal in the message was unlikely
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Speaker 1: to be understood by those who viewed her conduct, it
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Speaker 1: could be analyzed as mere conduct and not protected speech,
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Speaker 1: and is thus easily found to be obscene. Asked the
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Speaker 1: judge to find that there is at least a possibility
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Speaker 1: that a reasonable juror could make some the same judgment.
34:46
Speaker 1: She said, the law is ambiguous, and when there is
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Speaker 1: an ambiguity, such as that, it's our duty to prosecute
34:51
Speaker 1: and bring that question before the court. Laoser told reporters
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Speaker 1: after arrest, I couldn't think of a better method of
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Speaker 1: protesting the president, calling me a man taking off my
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Speaker 1: shirt and getting arrested for it. Defense attorney pro would
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Speaker 1: argue that Laoso's conduct did not amount to indecent exposure
35:10
Speaker 1: because his nipples were covered in black. It's the amount
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Speaker 1: of exposure that a person would have if they were
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Speaker 1: wearing a bikini. He spoke to the judge, arguing that
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Speaker 1: if there was a person in town who was male
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Speaker 1: on the fourth of July and was walking down the
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Speaker 1: street without a shirt on, we would not have a
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Speaker 1: prosecution for obscenity or indecent exposure. Conduct if it's topless
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Speaker 1: in nature, is speech enless. There's some sort of sexualized behavior,
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Speaker 1: the lawyer argued, standing there, protesting is not trying to
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Speaker 1: incite arousal in any way, shape or form, nor would
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Speaker 1: any rational human being I might subjectively Internet find that
35:46
Speaker 1: arousing in any form. So, in essence, because men can
35:52
Speaker 1: go topless, this man professing to be a woman can
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Speaker 1: basically go topless and it shouldn't be an offense. Hence
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Speaker 1: Joe's editorial comment, So you're a woman until you're not
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Speaker 1: a woman because you want to avoid prosecution. Fair enough, Joe,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you on that one. Coming
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Speaker 1: up a five fifty six fifty five KRC The Talk Station. Yes,
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Speaker 1: this is a real thing. These are real people making
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Speaker 1: up at six thirty plenty to talk about between now
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Speaker 1: the return of iHeart. MEETIA aviation expert Jay RATTLFT today,
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Speaker 1: great topics to talk about with him. He's seated by
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Speaker 1: Timmograth with the book Three Roads to Gettysburg. Yes, Abraham
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Speaker 1: Lincoln and some folks you've never heard of. Very influential
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Speaker 1: they were, and we're going to find out about who
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Speaker 1: they are. With Tim McGrath at eight oh five, preceeded
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Speaker 1: by continuing a theme in reverse. Former President Abraham Lincoln
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Speaker 1: joins the program. Now this is Larry Elliott at seven thirty.
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Speaker 1: Got an empower Youth Seminar tonight. He's going to be
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Speaker 1: portraying President Abraham Lincoln. He does this with you know,
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Speaker 1: groups and schools and things like that. He actually shows
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Speaker 1: up and is the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln. He puts
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Speaker 1: himself in Abraham Lincoln's character. It's like method acting and
37:34
Speaker 1: doesn't step out of characters. So when you're talking to him,
37:37
Speaker 1: you just may as well pretend that you're actually talking
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Speaker 1: with President Abraham Lincoln. That's the empower Youse Seminar tonight.
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Speaker 1: You can show up in person or log in from home.
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Speaker 1: And I hope you rivet to log into that seminar
37:47
Speaker 1: last night from g Van Fleet and I really enjoyed
37:50
Speaker 1: the conversation with her. Frightening stuff and a real warning
37:53
Speaker 1: to America to wake the hell up that you're head
37:55
Speaker 1: and headlong into communism. Marxism highly influenced by the chain,
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Speaker 1: and he's Communist Party Congressman Warren Davids at seven oh five.
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Speaker 1: The other the Epstein files coming our way thirty days
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Speaker 1: from now. Donald Trump signed the bill into law yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Now get your popcorn out and wait and see who
38:11
Speaker 1: is uncovered in the release of documents and the comical exercise. Invariably,
38:16
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is going to go through trying
38:18
Speaker 1: to redact most of the critical information, keep the names
38:21
Speaker 1: of some very powerful people hidden. Apparently Ken Kober FLP President.
38:25
Speaker 1: Bottom of this hour, we have forty one million dollars
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Speaker 1: for new tech, most all of which is going to
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Speaker 1: one company AXOS. Don't know whether he's got a problem
38:33
Speaker 1: with that, but we're talking about purchase an acquisition of drones,
38:37
Speaker 1: some cameras, dashboard cameras, tasers, virtual reality headsets which are
38:43
Speaker 1: apparently used to train the Cincinnai Police Department officers on
38:46
Speaker 1: how to use tasers. All these products, including the storage,
38:52
Speaker 1: for example, the video that's gathered, the information that's gathered
38:55
Speaker 1: from the various devices, all stored on this company's own
38:58
Speaker 1: servers Axon, which they claim is well, it's better than
39:02
Speaker 1: keeping it in house. So anyway, that'll be Ken cobra
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Speaker 1: bottom of this hour five three, seven, four nine fifty
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Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three taco
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Speaker 1: pound five fifty on AT and T phones, you know,
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Speaker 1: and on the on the heels of that that ridiculous position,
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Speaker 1: the transgender woman, guy pretending to be a woman was
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Speaker 1: making that he she could go topless because you know,
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Speaker 1: no guy would get cited for indecent exposure if he
39:25
Speaker 1: were topless. Well, she, I guess chose to be a
39:27
Speaker 1: woman in the moment that she got cited for indecent
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Speaker 1: exposure at a rally. I just wanted to think about
39:35
Speaker 1: I wanted you to think about this. When you're relying
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Speaker 1: on information from your government. They they don't really do
39:40
Speaker 1: the research and investigation. They're out there relying on studies
39:43
Speaker 1: depending on what you're talking about, like global warming. Remember
39:45
Speaker 1: the hockey stick. Al Gore said, we're all going to
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Speaker 1: die in eight years if we don't, you know, eliminate
39:49
Speaker 1: carbon from the environment. Yeah, here's the research which shows
39:52
Speaker 1: that we've got scientists top notrement on the job telling
39:54
Speaker 1: us that, yeah, we're all going to die, and over
39:57
Speaker 1: the passage of time that never happened. Right, you can
40:00
Speaker 1: look back, look at the dates that you had. These
40:02
Speaker 1: people say that we were doomed to all die, some
40:05
Speaker 1: of them predicting that human population will be completely eradicated
40:08
Speaker 1: because well, we breathe or something. They picked and choose
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Speaker 1: which studies, And if you were a heretic and you
40:14
Speaker 1: showed another study which was equally at least in terms
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Speaker 1: of peer review or analysis, equally credible as their hockey
40:21
Speaker 1: stick or whatever modeling that they were relying on, they
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Speaker 1: basically would crucify you. You were thrown out of the
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Speaker 1: science and basically losing your credibility, your status. Doctors who
40:34
Speaker 1: questioned COVID nineteen vaccines talked about maybe ivermactin, maybe that
40:37
Speaker 1: masks don't work. They were kicked out of the profession
40:40
Speaker 1: in essence, ostracized, demonized. Enter JFK jr. Now I asked
40:49
Speaker 1: to the gender transition stuff. Health and Human Services Department
40:54
Speaker 1: published a new set of guidelines yesterday, updating the prior
40:57
Speaker 1: report regarding the dangers of pediatric gender transition medicine, adding
41:04
Speaker 1: external peer reviews to the list to help them support
41:08
Speaker 1: their conclusion. Quote treatment for pediatric pediatric genderdice for you,
41:12
Speaker 1: review of evidence and best practices. That is the name
41:15
Speaker 1: of the supplement, which has now been expanded upon incorporating
41:20
Speaker 1: nine peer reviews, one from American Psychiatric Association, nine replies
41:25
Speaker 1: to those reviews from noted scientists, the names of the
41:28
Speaker 1: report's contributors also identified. The apartment points out these peer
41:33
Speaker 1: reviews confirmed or failed to undercut the initial finding that
41:40
Speaker 1: harms from puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and surgeries are significant,
41:44
Speaker 1: long term, and too often ignored or inadequately tracked. Now
41:49
Speaker 1: you may remember Rachel Levin, Admiral Levin, the first transgender
41:53
Speaker 1: guy or whatever, saying previously defending gender transition treatment as
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Speaker 1: in his her words, medically necessary, safe and effective for
42:04
Speaker 1: trans and non binary youth. That is now being disputed.
42:08
Speaker 1: Admiral Brian Christine now in that role. So the prior
42:11
Speaker 1: administration of my predecessor, Rachel Levine of Levin manipulated and
42:16
Speaker 1: betrayed vulnerable families. The Trump administration has the will now
42:19
Speaker 1: and we will never ever abandon you. The point being
42:22
Speaker 1: that these peer reviewed studies which are now incited and included,
42:25
Speaker 1: all point out that there are dangers associated with this.
42:29
Speaker 1: There's an LGB Courage coalition out there which also agrees
42:32
Speaker 1: that this stuff is dangerous. They said, look that the
42:37
Speaker 1: contributors themselves, the people whose peer reviewed studies were cited,
42:41
Speaker 1: those who chimed in on the peer studies. These scientists took,
42:48
Speaker 1: in the words of the lgbtwo LGB Courage coalition, took
42:51
Speaker 1: real risks to their professional careers and personal safety by
42:55
Speaker 1: letting their names be released. In this political climate, these
43:00
Speaker 1: authors were willing to question the status of the medical
43:02
Speaker 1: evidence and push scientific inquiry to function the way it
43:07
Speaker 1: must in order to safeguard young people. There were affirms
43:13
Speaker 1: what many of us have been have seen firsthand. LGB
43:16
Speaker 1: youth deserve protection. Now, these are the folks that are
43:19
Speaker 1: presumably supposed to enjoy the benefits of gender transition surgeries
43:23
Speaker 1: and hormones. They're saying, no, you never took into account
43:26
Speaker 1: the dangers. You never went around and interviewed people who
43:30
Speaker 1: went through this surgery with horrific results, only to live
43:33
Speaker 1: with what amounts to permanent, lifelong regret for having gone
43:37
Speaker 1: down that road. At least this administration is acknowledging that, no,
43:40
Speaker 1: you know what, there are dangers associated with it. They
43:44
Speaker 1: didn't conclude that it's absolutely outright verboten. But they also
43:48
Speaker 1: pointed out something extremely important that this isn't conclusive that
43:53
Speaker 1: it isn't harmful. There's no conclusive proof that these treatments
43:58
Speaker 1: are not harmful. Here a whole bunch of studies would
44:01
Speaker 1: show that they are harmful or potentially harmful. Let's have
44:06
Speaker 1: pointed out that a lot of countries have flipped the
44:09
Speaker 1: opposite direction. According to this Admiral Christine, the new person
44:13
Speaker 1: in charge around the world, countries like the United Kingdom, Sweden,
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Speaker 1: Finland have already shifted course emphasizing what I think is
44:19
Speaker 1: important psychotherapy and mental health support for children confused about
44:24
Speaker 1: their sex. Christine also said, and it's a long time
44:28
Speaker 1: that we do the same in the United States. How
44:31
Speaker 1: about providing the United States population with all of the information? Now,
44:37
Speaker 1: different topic, same argument. CDC has now changed this website
44:41
Speaker 1: regarding vaccines and whether or not they may have a
44:44
Speaker 1: connection with autism, whether or not you believe it does.
44:47
Speaker 1: According to the revised website, the claim vaccines do not
44:52
Speaker 1: cause autism is not an evidence based claim because studies
44:58
Speaker 1: haven't ruled out the possibility infant vaccines cause autism. Studies
45:02
Speaker 1: supporting that link have been ignored by health authorities Previously.
45:06
Speaker 1: The page said studies have shown there is no link
45:09
Speaker 1: between receiving vaccines and developing autism, so your left to
45:13
Speaker 1: conclude that there is no connection. There is there, I
45:16
Speaker 1: don't know, but apparently there are some studies out there
45:18
Speaker 1: which suggest there may be a link. In other words,
45:20
Speaker 1: they point out that the research has not been done
45:23
Speaker 1: to see whether or not there's vaccine there's a link
45:25
Speaker 1: between vaccines and autism. As a consequence of that, you
45:29
Speaker 1: need to know that there may be. It's part of
45:32
Speaker 1: making an informed choice. Every time you take a pharmaceutical
45:36
Speaker 1: that's been issued, what's on the box black box labels,
45:40
Speaker 1: warning labels. If you take this, you may experience, you know,
45:43
Speaker 1: in limited cases or sometimes the following like death. Don't
45:47
Speaker 1: take the medicine if you're allergic to the medicine my
45:49
Speaker 1: favorite warning of all warnings. But those are allowing you
45:53
Speaker 1: to make an informed decision.
45:54
Speaker 3: You know what.
45:54
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about this whole hemophilia thing. The
45:57
Speaker 1: thing says we're going to have problems with clotting blood.
45:59
Speaker 1: I've already got problems with that. I don't want to
46:01
Speaker 1: take that medicine informed decision, so This is a common theme,
46:09
Speaker 1: is why I kind of put it all together. You
46:11
Speaker 1: got global warming, here's the studies. Yeah, but what about
46:13
Speaker 1: all these studies autism vaccine, here's the study. Well, what
46:18
Speaker 1: about the lack of evidence in these other studies suggesting
46:20
Speaker 1: the link gender transition. There's nothing wrong with surgery for
46:25
Speaker 1: miners and hormone blockers. No, no, no, there happens to
46:27
Speaker 1: be a bunch of research which says they are harmful.
46:30
Speaker 1: You might want to consider that JFK Junior or RFK
46:36
Speaker 1: Junior turning out to be a pretty good guy from
46:38
Speaker 1: my perspective. West Side Gym, you're next. I got to
46:41
Speaker 1: take a quick break here and mentioned my friends at
46:43
Speaker 1: Gate of Heaven Cemetery. It's a Cat six twenty one
46:46
Speaker 1: fifty five krc DE talk station. Happy Thursday. You gonna
46:49
Speaker 1: go straight to the phones day. West Side Gym's kind
46:51
Speaker 1: of up the hold over the break there, Steve, hold on,
46:53
Speaker 1: you'll be next. Jim, welcome back. My friend's always a
46:55
Speaker 1: pleasure hearing from me. Thank you for the photographs of
46:57
Speaker 1: sunset before and after. I loved that, as well as
47:00
Speaker 1: the speed humps in front of Price sal Chili. That
47:02
Speaker 1: I'll be able to see for myself at listener Lunch
47:05
Speaker 1: coming up first Wednesday of December. Good to hear from
47:07
Speaker 1: this morning, Jim.
47:09
Speaker 9: Good morning, Brian.
47:10
Speaker 10: Yeah that was I saw him putting up a sign
47:13
Speaker 10: yesterday that said in honor of Brian Thomas, this is
47:15
Speaker 10: a thoroughfare for Brian Thomas thoroughfare.
47:19
Speaker 1: You know, I would love to be able to say
47:21
Speaker 1: I had some some tiny influence on finally getting Sunset paved.
47:26
Speaker 1: It's almost like we need to get Thomas to shut
47:28
Speaker 1: up talking about our failures and allowing Sunset to become
47:31
Speaker 1: the war torn road that it looks like it came
47:34
Speaker 1: from for the past two decades. Okay, let's go ahead
47:36
Speaker 1: and fix it. What did it take a week?
47:38
Speaker 3: Jim?
47:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's as smooth as a baby's butt. But I mean,
47:44
Speaker 10: you know, when you tear up a street and then
47:46
Speaker 10: redo it with reebar and the whole bit, it takes
47:50
Speaker 10: a lot longer than just a few days to a
47:52
Speaker 10: week to post some blacktop on. No, I'm not complaining
47:55
Speaker 10: because it's smooth. I mean, it's nice, and there are
47:59
Speaker 10: portions of it that they skipped over. I don't know
48:01
Speaker 10: why they did that, but those speed humps is basically
48:05
Speaker 10: what I wanted to talk about because.
48:07
Speaker 2: You saw that.
48:08
Speaker 10: Can you imagine what are they gonna do skip that
48:10
Speaker 10: when the snow comes down, Because if the snowplow hits
48:12
Speaker 10: those things, that's going to dig them right up.
48:14
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. At least that's the
48:16
Speaker 1: appearance they gave. But again, these aren't attached to the
48:19
Speaker 1: road with reebar. They're not a fix, and not a
48:21
Speaker 1: permanently permanently a fixed. It's like they came with a
48:23
Speaker 1: pile of asphalt, put a mound of it, and then
48:26
Speaker 1: compressed it down. So if you hit that sideways with
48:29
Speaker 1: a snowplow, that's gonna cut it. Seems like we'll pop
48:31
Speaker 1: right up. We'll find out.
48:33
Speaker 6: How do you think that?
48:34
Speaker 10: It's not even asphalt, Brian, It's blacktop, so it's not
48:38
Speaker 10: even durable, like you know, weuld get like a concrete
48:41
Speaker 10: or asphalt something like that. But you know, I just
48:43
Speaker 10: wanted to call in for your listeners.
48:45
Speaker 11: I know they can't.
48:46
Speaker 10: They're not going to make a special trip out there
48:48
Speaker 10: to see what sunset looks like. But if you hit
48:51
Speaker 10: to we've complained about it for so long. If you
48:54
Speaker 10: had to drive that thing before and after it's it's
48:56
Speaker 10: it's almost pleasurable. I was, I made that trip yesterday.
49:01
Speaker 10: But sending you those pictures, I know it's it sounds stupid,
49:04
Speaker 10: but no, it's one one thing for the West Side.
49:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it just serves a great illustration of
49:11
Speaker 1: the incompetence that the road has been so bad for
49:14
Speaker 1: so long and that they did something to it just
49:16
Speaker 1: pleases me to know when I'd love to be able
49:18
Speaker 1: to take credit, but I'm not going to. I'm not
49:20
Speaker 1: even going to suggest for a moment that I can.
49:23
Speaker 1: But they did eliminate it, eliminate that as a topic
49:25
Speaker 1: for me to spring from from this point forward. Jim, Well,
49:29
Speaker 1: remember now it's gonna remember how bad sunset was for
49:33
Speaker 1: twenty years.
49:34
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean that'll be a topic for the grandchildren.
49:38
Speaker 1: Well, and you've got before and we'll soon look for
49:40
Speaker 1: after pictures. Let's let's wait for the winter time to
49:43
Speaker 1: go through a couple of snow episodes about six eight
49:45
Speaker 1: months of traffic, and then we'll see what the speed
49:47
Speaker 1: humps look like in front of price heal Chili, appreciate it,
49:50
Speaker 1: Jim Brian.
49:51
Speaker 10: Yeah, real quick, I did see a couple of cars
49:54
Speaker 10: go flying down that middle lane yesterday and just hit
49:56
Speaker 10: them like normal. I mean, people just don't really care there, stupid.
50:00
Speaker 1: Apparently they obviously don't care about their cars either. Yeah,
50:02
Speaker 1: that's their issue to Thanks brother, always good hearing from you, Steve.
50:06
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, and happy Thursday.
50:09
Speaker 12: Thank you, Good morning, Ryan. I love your show. I
50:13
Speaker 12: got a couple of resources for people that are interested
50:16
Speaker 12: in examining the vaccine issues and autism.
50:20
Speaker 1: Yeah.
50:21
Speaker 12: The first one is on the web. It's a free video.
50:26
Speaker 12: The title or the website is an Inconvenient Study dot com.
50:32
Speaker 1: Fair enough.
50:35
Speaker 12: Inconvenient Study dot com. It compares the health of completely
50:40
Speaker 12: unvaccinated kids to the health of fully vaccinated kids, and
50:46
Speaker 12: I'm there.
50:47
Speaker 1: It provides a nice breakdown of that. You know, it's
50:48
Speaker 1: just again one more illustration of the volume of material
50:52
Speaker 1: that's out there that isn't all consistent. Now, I can't
50:55
Speaker 1: pass on the credibility that particular page, You're not, Steve,
50:57
Speaker 1: but it is a resource. I always encourage people look,
51:00
Speaker 1: look at the citations, look at where the information came from.
51:03
Speaker 1: Is it a credible source of information? And at least
51:06
Speaker 1: we now have an administration under RFK Junior that is
51:08
Speaker 1: looking at alternative narratives and alternative information so you can
51:12
Speaker 1: make an informed decision. And I think that's a step
51:15
Speaker 1: in the right direction because so many things, a political
51:19
Speaker 1: agenda is what is trying to be achieved here, Like
51:22
Speaker 1: with the LGBTQ pronouncements that gender dysphoria should be addressed
51:26
Speaker 1: with surgery. Really no one out in the scientific world
51:29
Speaker 1: thinks that could be dangerous. No, it might be dangerous.
51:32
Speaker 1: There's studies to suggest that. But the agenda is this
51:36
Speaker 1: whole concept that no, no, no, if you believe you're
51:39
Speaker 1: the opposite sex, we should embrace that and encourage that.
51:42
Speaker 1: How disruptive is that to life? Generally speaking? It's just
51:45
Speaker 1: one more of those topics of division, and it flies
51:48
Speaker 1: in the face of all logic, common sense, and just
51:50
Speaker 1: plain old fashioned science. Chromosome based reality, men or women
51:55
Speaker 1: defined by your chromosomes and also your genitalia. So I
51:59
Speaker 1: don't stand gender confusion. I'm not a psychiatrist, a psychiatry
52:02
Speaker 1: or a psychologist, don't play one on radio. But my
52:05
Speaker 1: whole philosophy boils down to look down. What do you
52:10
Speaker 1: see there? There's the answer to the question six twenty
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Speaker 1: six right now fifty five Thanks Steve, fifty five KRCD
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Speaker 1: Talk Station. It's six thirty one, fifty five CARSD Talk Station.
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Speaker 1: A very happy Friday, EU to you. Welcome back to
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Speaker 1: the fifty five cars morning. She always enjoy hearing from
52:26
Speaker 1: FOP President Ken Cover. That of course is Chapter sixty
52:29
Speaker 1: nine FOP representing the Sincinni Police Department. Ken, It's always
52:32
Speaker 1: pleasure having on the show. Welcome back, my friend.
52:34
Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Brian, Happy Friday.
52:36
Speaker 1: Happy Friday, Eve. Yeah. David Ferrara, reporting for The Enquirre,
52:39
Speaker 1: says the Cincinnati City of Cincinnati's now spending forty one
52:43
Speaker 1: million dollars to obtain some new technology, all of which
52:46
Speaker 1: comes from this company called Axon, which is the company
52:49
Speaker 1: that started it started by manufacturing tasers, but apparently has
52:53
Speaker 1: expanded its options to body cameras, drones, virtual reality training headsets,
52:59
Speaker 1: and then a cloud based platform that this company operates itself,
53:03
Speaker 1: where all of the data collected from this technology the
53:06
Speaker 1: police officers have is stored basically under their corporate umbrella.
53:10
Speaker 1: I'm going just first start by did you see the
53:13
Speaker 1: reporting on this. Is there anything that you view? The
53:15
Speaker 1: police department generally objects to where things is unnecessary or
53:19
Speaker 1: do you view this infusion of cash and technology as
53:21
Speaker 1: a positive thing?
53:22
Speaker 2: Cane And honestly it's positive. Actually, I was out in
53:26
Speaker 2: Scottsdale at Axon's headquarters a couple of weeks ago. They
53:30
Speaker 2: invited forty FOP leaders from around the country to kind
53:35
Speaker 2: of it was just a forum to go over the
53:37
Speaker 2: current technology, know where they're planning ongoing future technology, and
53:43
Speaker 2: I'm telling you advance some of this stuff that they're
53:45
Speaker 2: creating is absolutely phenomenal. The CEO is the one that
53:48
Speaker 2: put us on. Awesome guy who's geared around making police
53:53
Speaker 2: jobs easier and safer.
53:56
Speaker 1: Now you've got me intrigued. Can you just give us
53:58
Speaker 1: a little thumbnail sketch of what might he coming down
54:00
Speaker 1: the road from this company? I'm wildly curious.
54:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a lot of things that they want
54:05
Speaker 2: to do. A lot of it's AI based to be
54:09
Speaker 2: able to make cops jobs easier, like body cameras. You know,
54:12
Speaker 2: there's there's technology already out there, and one of them
54:15
Speaker 2: they showed a video where if if you're familiar with
54:18
Speaker 2: like Google Translate with different languages, yeah, they have it
54:22
Speaker 2: on body cameras, so if you're talking, Yeah, and actually
54:26
Speaker 2: we're going to be getting that. I'm understanding very soon
54:29
Speaker 2: in the near future. I came back from this conference,
54:31
Speaker 2: met with some leadership and they're like, yeah, this is coming.
54:33
Speaker 2: So a video that they showed us from New Mexico
54:37
Speaker 2: where an officer was dealing with somebody that had committed
54:40
Speaker 2: a crime. It was Russian. Literally puts a couple buttons.
54:44
Speaker 2: It indicates on the body camera that you're now in Russian.
54:47
Speaker 2: You speak in English. It spits it out to the
54:49
Speaker 2: guy in Russian, the guys, here's it. He listens to it,
54:53
Speaker 2: he responds, and then it translates from Russian to English
54:56
Speaker 2: right back to you, and it does it an any
54:58
Speaker 2: language in America or in the w world.
55:00
Speaker 1: That that is cool. And you know, obviously you know,
55:04
Speaker 1: say what you want about the illegal immigrant problem we
55:06
Speaker 1: have coming in. I mean documented that people from countries
55:10
Speaker 1: all over the globe, multiple different languages flowing on in.
55:13
Speaker 1: That is that's an amazing development right there.
55:17
Speaker 3: Yeah.
55:18
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like I said, those are those are some of
55:20
Speaker 2: the things that that they're trying to create. And like
55:22
Speaker 2: I said that the CEO of this company, he's driven
55:25
Speaker 2: based off of trying to reduce police involved shootings and
55:32
Speaker 2: if he can do that. Like one of the ways
55:33
Speaker 2: they have a new taser that we're going to get
55:35
Speaker 2: I know is and that report this taser can and
55:38
Speaker 2: it's you know, these tasers have been pretty effective, you know.
55:43
Speaker 2: But his goal, and he told us in the next
55:45
Speaker 2: like five years, is to have these tasers where they're
55:47
Speaker 2: like ninety nine percent effective. He is, I know, I'm
55:50
Speaker 2: not going to prevent all police shootings. Is, but we've
55:52
Speaker 2: done statistics where we've seen that there have been police
55:55
Speaker 2: shootings where a taser was deployed and it failed and
56:00
Speaker 2: then the end result was a police involved shooting. Is
56:02
Speaker 2: if I can, if I can keep that from happening.
56:05
Speaker 2: He's like, obviously, if a god pulls out a gun
56:07
Speaker 2: and he points out you, you're going to have to
56:08
Speaker 2: do a hipping protect yourself. But if you have somebody
56:11
Speaker 2: that's that's experiencing a mental crisis and they're just standing
56:15
Speaker 2: in their front yard with a knife and an officer
56:18
Speaker 2: is able to find cover, you know, whether they're behind
56:20
Speaker 2: a car or whatever else, safely deploy a taser to
56:23
Speaker 2: be able to take them into custody without having to
56:26
Speaker 2: kill them. Although they do have the right to protect themselves,
56:30
Speaker 2: up to including deadly force. But if they can prevent that,
56:33
Speaker 2: that's good for everybody. It's good for society, it's good
56:36
Speaker 2: for cops, it's good for everybody.
56:37
Speaker 1: Well, in the new design tasers, do they provide additional range?
56:41
Speaker 3: Is that?
56:42
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely? Yeah, the taser ten Now that like I
56:45
Speaker 2: said that the police department's going to be getting here
56:47
Speaker 2: at the beginning of twenty six they will shoot up
56:51
Speaker 2: to almost fifty feet.
56:54
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and presently is what more like ten feet?
57:00
Speaker 2: They're up to about twenty five feet roughly. Now, okay,
57:03
Speaker 2: but I mean just the whole design a lot of things.
57:06
Speaker 2: It actually makes it safer for the person that's being
57:09
Speaker 2: taste because they've changed some of the internal technology. So
57:13
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that this company is doing
57:15
Speaker 2: that is serving the public. And I know, I saw
57:18
Speaker 2: the article, you know about how they have a corner
57:20
Speaker 2: on the market, and you know, if other companies want
57:22
Speaker 2: to come up with stuff that are just as good,
57:25
Speaker 2: that police department should buy it again.
57:27
Speaker 1: I just I thought that was rather comical. The one person.
57:31
Speaker 1: Companies like ix On are very interested in getting their
57:32
Speaker 1: customers and then keeping them. This can make the effort
57:35
Speaker 1: it take the transfer a different platform of offload information
57:38
Speaker 1: so that customers don't try to do that. Well, no kidding,
57:41
Speaker 1: welcome to capitalism. Yes, of course they want to retain
57:44
Speaker 1: their customers. So what you're the boiled down version of
57:47
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing is there is nothing wrong with this
57:50
Speaker 1: Axon company. They're not evil, nefarious, They're doing good for
57:52
Speaker 1: the people. And who can argue with a less deadly
57:56
Speaker 1: form of dealing with someone who represents a significant harm
57:59
Speaker 1: to the unity. This is not something that Iris Rollie
58:02
Speaker 1: is going to come out and scream about. This is
58:03
Speaker 1: something that someone like her has to embrace. Ken Cober,
58:06
Speaker 1: we got more technology to talk about. Plus the meeting today,
58:08
Speaker 1: Hamilton County Sheriff Charme McGuffey emerging from her cave to
58:11
Speaker 1: talk about how safe it is in the city of Cincinnati.
58:13
Speaker 1: We'll get your comments on that as well more with
58:16
Speaker 1: FOP President Ken Cobra first speak. You know, it's not
58:19
Speaker 1: Tech Friday, it's FOP President Ken Cober Thursday talking about
58:23
Speaker 1: the new technology the Cincinnati The City of Cincinnati spending
58:25
Speaker 1: forty one million dollars on over the next several years
58:28
Speaker 1: access to the company providing the technology they apparently have
58:32
Speaker 1: not a monopoly so much, but they are the leader
58:35
Speaker 1: in providing technology for law enforcements. Can explain altruistic designed
58:39
Speaker 1: to save lives. That's what they're all about, and they
58:42
Speaker 1: are the largest provider of this type of equipment. Ken Cobra,
58:45
Speaker 1: I got to ask you because apparently we're buying and
58:47
Speaker 1: already have acquired some drones. Then to enquire crunch the
58:51
Speaker 1: numbers and they estimate for if you care, they come
58:53
Speaker 1: out to be about sixty two thousand dollars apiece. But
58:55
Speaker 1: they're also maintenance fees and stuff like that. But in
58:57
Speaker 1: the final analysis, I guess I'm kind of curious how
58:59
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati, the police department rather utilizes the
59:03
Speaker 1: drone technology. I mean, there's I envision, you know, sort
59:07
Speaker 1: of an Orwellian reality where these things are flying around
59:09
Speaker 1: all the time everywhere. But then I'm thinking, well, there
59:12
Speaker 1: aren't enough people really monitor what the drones are viewing.
59:15
Speaker 1: So how does law enforcement utilize drone technology to the citizens' advantage?
59:21
Speaker 2: So the number one way that they use them outside
59:25
Speaker 2: of like patrol, and I'll get to that is during
59:28
Speaker 2: like swat situations. We've been using them for years, right
59:31
Speaker 2: where instead of sending officers in. You know, if you
59:34
Speaker 2: have a standoff in a building, they'll send a drone in.
59:38
Speaker 2: Makes perfect which makes a hope, It makes absolutely makes
59:40
Speaker 2: perfect sense. Not only is it protecting the officers, but
59:42
Speaker 2: as protecting someone there, especially if they're armed, then they're
59:46
Speaker 2: able to see that in real time. And then obviously
59:49
Speaker 2: the drone. Through the drone, they can communicate if there's
59:51
Speaker 2: somebody in the building that's armed with a gun, they
59:53
Speaker 2: can start giving them commands to drop the gun, drop
59:56
Speaker 2: the gun. Once they finally drop the gun, they can
59:59
Speaker 2: then give them command to come to any door, lay
1:00:02
Speaker 2: down whatever they want them to do. That way, the
1:00:03
Speaker 2: officers can safely go in there and apprehend them so
1:00:06
Speaker 2: nobody gets hurt. The way they're using them on a
1:00:09
Speaker 2: daily basis are specific radio runs, you know, so they're
1:00:14
Speaker 2: not just like flying around like you know, just just
1:00:16
Speaker 2: waiting for something to happen. You know, if they get
1:00:19
Speaker 2: a specific radio run where an officer goes, hey, a
1:00:21
Speaker 2: drone would be useful, you know, whether it's a you know,
1:00:24
Speaker 2: a fight in progress, you know, at a specific location,
1:00:29
Speaker 2: they could say, let's send a drone and see what's
1:00:31
Speaker 2: going on. Maybe there's no fight. If there's no fight,
1:00:33
Speaker 2: then we don't need to worry about sending officers that
1:00:36
Speaker 2: are on the ground to go there. They can be
1:00:37
Speaker 2: focused towards other things. But they also they also use them.
1:00:41
Speaker 2: They use them fight a gun run.
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Speaker 3: You know.
1:00:43
Speaker 2: They get a description of a male wearing a purple
1:00:45
Speaker 2: shirt at at third and Main Street, they can fly
1:00:50
Speaker 2: a drone there find out first of all, is there
1:00:52
Speaker 2: a mail with a purple shirt standing there? And number
1:00:54
Speaker 2: two does he have a gun? And if he does, well,
1:00:57
Speaker 2: then let's see how we can coordinate this effort. That way,
1:00:59
Speaker 2: we could do this the safest way possible.
1:01:01
Speaker 1: Well, I imagine they also have to be they'll arrive
1:01:04
Speaker 1: on the scene probably a lot quicker than some officer
1:01:06
Speaker 1: that's being dispatched from what District three or something has
1:01:10
Speaker 1: got to drive halfway across town to get to the
1:01:12
Speaker 1: actual scene. As the description says, these docks where the
1:01:16
Speaker 1: drones are going to be stored are placed all across
1:01:18
Speaker 1: the city. So is there one remote drone operation center
1:01:22
Speaker 1: that could deploy a drone immediately and then have it
1:01:25
Speaker 1: arrive at the scene even before the officers.
1:01:27
Speaker 2: Get there, Oh, without a doubt, you know. But not
1:01:30
Speaker 2: only that, it's like, you know, they're subject to being
1:01:33
Speaker 2: recalled if there's not a current drone operator working and
1:01:37
Speaker 2: they need one for something. All they need is an
1:01:41
Speaker 2: Internet connection and they could fly a drone from anywhere.
1:01:43
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
1:01:44
Speaker 2: So if they're at home and they go, hey, we
1:01:46
Speaker 2: need a drone right now, they could go log into
1:01:49
Speaker 2: the computer and they could have a drone in the
1:01:50
Speaker 2: air going somewhere within a matter of minutes.
1:01:53
Speaker 9: Wow.
1:01:54
Speaker 2: Which is it's incredible technology. That is Certainly it's going
1:01:57
Speaker 2: to make officers a whole lot safer, which certainly is
1:01:59
Speaker 2: why I'm a biggest proponent of IS. But it's also
1:02:02
Speaker 2: going to keep the community safer as well when you
1:02:04
Speaker 2: look at having to apprehend violent people that may be armed.
1:02:09
Speaker 2: It's just a safer way of doing things. And it's
1:02:11
Speaker 2: the future of policing, whether we like it or not.
1:02:14
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you put that on the tail end,
1:02:16
Speaker 1: because you know what I love about this is for
1:02:18
Speaker 1: everything you pointed out, it's better for the officers, it's
1:02:20
Speaker 1: better for us safer communities, but it also is the
1:02:23
Speaker 1: orwell in reality that we are being video cameraed and
1:02:26
Speaker 1: all the time. It's something we're all going to have
1:02:29
Speaker 1: to guess get used to Ken Cobra pause. Apparently Charmie
1:02:32
Speaker 1: McGuffey and others are going to be having a meeting today,
1:02:34
Speaker 1: including the interim police chief, talk about how low the
1:02:36
Speaker 1: crime rate is in the city of Cincinnati. Will get
1:02:39
Speaker 1: your insights and thoughts about this upcoming meeting. One more
1:02:42
Speaker 1: with FOP President Kencober after cover Sincy What It's six
1:02:48
Speaker 1: fifty thick about KARCD talk station Very Happy Thursday. Last Friday,
1:02:51
Speaker 1: EVU Brian Thomas with the FOP President Cancober represented the
1:02:54
Speaker 1: Cincinni's Police Department and doing a great job, and I
1:02:58
Speaker 1: appreciate your willingness to come on the program to talk
1:02:59
Speaker 1: about these and vital issues. And of course over the
1:03:01
Speaker 1: summer we had the July twenty six beat down. No
1:03:04
Speaker 1: one forgets that it sort of set off alarm bells.
1:03:07
Speaker 1: Of course, in the aftermath of Sarah Herringer getting her
1:03:09
Speaker 1: husband stabbed to death in their over the Rhine apartment,
1:03:11
Speaker 1: we've got a real problem with crime in the city.
1:03:13
Speaker 1: Everyone's screaming about crime in the city and mayor a
1:03:15
Speaker 1: have tab provol after well years, if not months, of
1:03:18
Speaker 1: saying there is no problem with crime finally acknowledge there
1:03:21
Speaker 1: is and decided to move in a different direction with
1:03:23
Speaker 1: law enforcement, taking the state up on some of the
1:03:25
Speaker 1: offers of resources like the state patrols, and changing how
1:03:29
Speaker 1: law enforcement operates downtown. They're going to have a press
1:03:32
Speaker 1: conference day, haven't Kindny Sheriff Charmey McGuffey, Interim Police Chief
1:03:36
Speaker 1: Adam Henny, and State Patrol Colonel Charles Jones are going
1:03:39
Speaker 1: to be talking about this. Ken Cober, is your perception
1:03:42
Speaker 1: that crime is down since those turbulent months over the summertime?
1:03:47
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean obviously as soon as we go
1:03:49
Speaker 2: into colder weather, things do seem to calm down. But
1:03:52
Speaker 2: you know, one of the things that I just told
1:03:54
Speaker 2: yesterday from an officer that was hopping to the off
1:03:58
Speaker 2: duty up on Shortvine last Thursday, it said, you couldn't
1:04:03
Speaker 2: swing a dead cat without hitting a cop.
1:04:06
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
1:04:06
Speaker 2: And when that happens, they had the state patrol there,
1:04:10
Speaker 2: they had the city there. When you start doing those
1:04:12
Speaker 2: things and you flood areas with law enforcement, of course
1:04:17
Speaker 2: crime is gonna go down. I mean, that's just that's
1:04:19
Speaker 2: common sense. That's what the horse have been trying to
1:04:22
Speaker 2: beat for the last year and a half now well,
1:04:24
Speaker 2: hiring more officers find they have to find creative ways
1:04:27
Speaker 2: to hire officers quicker, but they have to be qualified officers,
1:04:31
Speaker 2: but hire them quicker, and that just is yet to
1:04:33
Speaker 2: be done. But yeah, I mean, we're seeing it that
1:04:35
Speaker 2: it's crime will be reduced when you have a bigger presence.
1:04:37
Speaker 2: That's why they have cops on Fountain Square every day.
1:04:42
Speaker 1: It just seems so like, no kidding, what do we
1:04:45
Speaker 1: do to reduce crime. Let's put more cops out there,
1:04:47
Speaker 1: a police presence. Wow, that'll work. Okay, not exactly revolutionary, ken,
1:04:51
Speaker 1: but at least they're trying to do that now. Whereas
1:04:54
Speaker 1: I guess police up until a moment in time ago,
1:04:56
Speaker 1: were perceived as some soul somehow, I don't know, triggering
1:05:00
Speaker 1: a residents of certain communities like the presence of a
1:05:02
Speaker 1: police officer, we're going to cause people to break down emotionally.
1:05:07
Speaker 3: Well.
1:05:07
Speaker 2: And the reality is if you have that just that
1:05:10
Speaker 2: presence is likely going to avoid having to take any
1:05:13
Speaker 2: enforcement exactly. And if one knucklehead wants to act up,
1:05:18
Speaker 2: then you deal with that person, and everybody else around
1:05:20
Speaker 2: sees them and goes, I don't want to go to jail,
1:05:22
Speaker 2: and I think I'll just not break the law while
1:05:24
Speaker 2: the cops are around. I mean, it's pretty simple concept.
1:05:27
Speaker 1: Okay, back to the topic of well, the solution of
1:05:29
Speaker 1: the problem more officers, more officers presence, we are down.
1:05:32
Speaker 1: We are still down a couple of one hundred ken
1:05:34
Speaker 1: am I accurate on that? And the number is still dropping?
1:05:36
Speaker 1: Or are more people in the drop program or we
1:05:38
Speaker 1: are people taking early retirement? Where are we on that?
1:05:41
Speaker 2: We are getting dangerously close to being under nine hundred again,
1:05:46
Speaker 2: you know, with a complement of almost one thousand and sixty,
1:05:48
Speaker 2: So I mean we're pushing one hundred and sixty short.
1:05:51
Speaker 2: We're facing sixty to eighty retirements a year, and the
1:05:54
Speaker 2: problem is we're only hiring about fifty five a year.
1:05:58
Speaker 2: And I get it with the we can only have
1:06:00
Speaker 2: one recruit class year. I mean, the reality is our
1:06:03
Speaker 2: academy staff doesn't have the means nor the space to
1:06:07
Speaker 2: be able to run more than one recruit class at
1:06:09
Speaker 2: a time. So they really have to start thinking about,
1:06:13
Speaker 2: you know, thinking outside the box in unconventional ways to
1:06:17
Speaker 2: hire new officers. And there are ways out there, there
1:06:19
Speaker 2: are things that have been discussed so far, none of
1:06:21
Speaker 2: it's been done so I'm certainly hoping that maybe here
1:06:26
Speaker 2: in the future they'll start listening and find a way
1:06:28
Speaker 2: to get more people in the doors, especially when they
1:06:31
Speaker 2: see that if you have these extra cops, you know,
1:06:35
Speaker 2: these things will calm down, crime will start to go
1:06:39
Speaker 2: down if you have more of a presence.
1:06:41
Speaker 1: Well, you have two options, new classes or lateral hires.
1:06:44
Speaker 1: So let's real quick with the new classes. If you
1:06:46
Speaker 1: could do more than one annually, let's say they had
1:06:48
Speaker 1: unlimited training resources, would there be enough competent, warm bodies
1:06:52
Speaker 1: that would sign up to want to join the classes.
1:06:56
Speaker 2: I think you would, because what we're seeing now is
1:07:01
Speaker 2: there are people going through like UC Claremont has a
1:07:03
Speaker 2: police academy, Butler Tech has a police academy, and they're
1:07:07
Speaker 2: filling their classes good And these are people that are paying,
1:07:10
Speaker 2: yes to go to these classes, and they're paying upwards
1:07:13
Speaker 2: of ten thousand dollars to be certified as police officers. Well,
1:07:17
Speaker 2: why can't the city of Cincinnati be capitalizing on those folks?
1:07:21
Speaker 1: Good point, excellent point. Insofar as lateral hires, since we're
1:07:24
Speaker 1: almost out of time, you're in competition literally with every
1:07:27
Speaker 1: other city that is looking for police officers. And you know,
1:07:31
Speaker 1: going to a lower crime area maybe worth sacrificing a
1:07:34
Speaker 1: bit of compensation. What is the biggest impediment to getting
1:07:37
Speaker 1: lateral hires to choose the city of Cincinnati versus really
1:07:40
Speaker 1: literally anyplace else.
1:07:42
Speaker 2: Well, what we saw over the summer was City Hall
1:07:46
Speaker 2: and the things that were being said from City Hall
1:07:48
Speaker 2: and the perceived lack of support. And let's be honest,
1:07:51
Speaker 2: it wasn't perceived, it was just actual that constant believe
1:07:54
Speaker 2: they were being supported because quite honestly, they weren't being
1:07:57
Speaker 2: forced to sign charges on somebody they weren't comfortable doing.
1:07:59
Speaker 2: Who want to subject themselves to that? You know, we
1:08:02
Speaker 2: have a new city council, were the same mayor. Hopefully
1:08:05
Speaker 2: their teams change, we can get that support back. I mean,
1:08:09
Speaker 2: I look forward to working with them. Hopefully that comes
1:08:11
Speaker 2: to fruition and you know, maybe we'll get back to
1:08:14
Speaker 2: where you know, they want to support the police. They're
1:08:17
Speaker 2: going to show that they support the police and that
1:08:19
Speaker 2: will certainly have a major impact on recruiting.
1:08:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has something Christopher Smith has been saying for years.
1:08:24
Speaker 1: Where is the administration, Where is their show of support
1:08:27
Speaker 1: for the police. The silence is deafening. So maybe we
1:08:30
Speaker 1: have turned a new page. I'm willing to remain optimistic
1:08:32
Speaker 1: about that, Ken, and I wish you all the best
1:08:34
Speaker 1: in the hopes that the city moves in that direction
1:08:36
Speaker 1: and we have a safer city to show for it.
1:08:38
Speaker 1: Ken Cobra, FLP President. Thank you so much, sir for
1:08:41
Speaker 1: joining us and talking about these important topics. Looking forward
1:08:44
Speaker 1: to having you back on again.
1:08:46
Speaker 3: Thanks.
1:08:46
Speaker 2: Brian Solways a pleasure.
1:08:47
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother. Seven oh six at fifty five KRC
1:09:04
Speaker 1: Decox Station, Brian Thomas right here. Always looking forward to
1:09:07
Speaker 1: talking with Congressman Warren Davidson and a man who's willing
1:09:10
Speaker 1: to come on the fifty five Carcy Morning Show to
1:09:11
Speaker 1: talk about important issues, and God bless him for it,
1:09:13
Speaker 1: and God bless those in the eighth District, the district
1:09:16
Speaker 1: that he serves for electing Congressman Davidson. Welcome back, my friend.
1:09:19
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to have you on the fifty
1:09:21
Speaker 1: five KRS Morning Show.
1:09:23
Speaker 11: Yeah, always an honor.
1:09:24
Speaker 6: Nice to talk with you.
1:09:25
Speaker 1: Brian, starting out with a simple question, was this trip
1:09:27
Speaker 1: really necessary? Of course, the Epstein files. Donald Trump signed
1:09:30
Speaker 1: the bill to release the Epstein files. We got thirty
1:09:32
Speaker 1: days for the Justice Department to probably make a heapload
1:09:35
Speaker 1: of redactions before producing them, which will result in arguments
1:09:38
Speaker 1: over whether the redactions were necessary or not. But we're
1:09:41
Speaker 1: finally getting them overwhelmingly voted in favor of doing this.
1:09:45
Speaker 1: I guess my initial question for you, Congressman Davidson, do you,
1:09:50
Speaker 1: because I asked this the Congressman Massy the other day,
1:09:52
Speaker 1: kind of one of the guys behind this, this whole effort,
1:09:55
Speaker 1: do you have any reason to understand Donald Trump's flip
1:09:58
Speaker 1: flopping from promising to really used them on the campaign
1:10:01
Speaker 1: trail to getting elected and then saying no, there's nothing
1:10:03
Speaker 1: there and we don't have anything to release, to then
1:10:06
Speaker 1: changing tune after pressure from Congressman Massey and others to
1:10:09
Speaker 1: release the files, to be unanimously voted on to release
1:10:12
Speaker 1: them by both the House and Senate. I mean, I'm
1:10:15
Speaker 1: just wondering how what happened, How did this end up being,
1:10:20
Speaker 1: what became of it, What was the reason for this
1:10:22
Speaker 1: flip flop?
1:10:25
Speaker 11: Well, honest, we probably will never know why he went
1:10:28
Speaker 11: from saying, you know, we have to do this on
1:10:31
Speaker 11: the campaign trail to saying at one point that it's
1:10:36
Speaker 11: a hoax and you know, we just needed to drop it.
1:10:38
Speaker 11: It's another Democrat effort to just really target him. But
1:10:43
Speaker 11: that's the main interest Democrats have it. They never put
1:10:46
Speaker 11: an answer pressure on Barack Obama or Eric Holder or
1:10:50
Speaker 11: frankly even Trump in his first term to go after Epstein.
1:10:54
Speaker 11: Then when Biden was there no pressure on Biden or
1:10:58
Speaker 11: Merrick Garland. So it's all just a desperate attempt to
1:11:01
Speaker 11: try to get any any taint of anything on Trump.
1:11:05
Speaker 11: And and so I think that's where Trump's like, no,
1:11:08
Speaker 11: you're just going to try to put something in the
1:11:09
Speaker 11: headlines and go after him. I think there's other reasons there.
1:11:13
Speaker 11: Speaker Johnson's also very reluctant to see unredacted information being
1:11:18
Speaker 11: made public. He laid out some of those concerns. He
1:11:21
Speaker 11: feels like it could harm national security. And I think
1:11:24
Speaker 11: that's the implication is is, well, look, if we've got
1:11:27
Speaker 11: intelligence services or frankly allies with intelligence services that are
1:11:31
Speaker 11: trafficking miners, we got to find a different way to
1:11:35
Speaker 11: do intelligence, you know, and that should come out. Honestly,
1:11:39
Speaker 11: that should come out, yes, and you should find a
1:11:42
Speaker 11: way to work through it. I mean, it's a scandal
1:11:44
Speaker 11: to cover it up. So there's going to be speculation
1:11:47
Speaker 11: because like, way, how is it that Pam Bondi's got
1:11:50
Speaker 11: binders full of information and ready to release it? What
1:11:54
Speaker 11: was in the binders? I mean, there was apparently a
1:11:56
Speaker 11: plan to go forward and then suddenly it was like
1:11:59
Speaker 11: cold turk, you know, nothing to see here, Let's move on.
1:12:03
Speaker 11: I don't know that we're ever going to get an
1:12:05
Speaker 11: honest explanation for that, But Pam Bondy was supposed to
1:12:08
Speaker 11: come explain that to Congress while we had the shutdown
1:12:11
Speaker 11: going on. She's supposed to come testify, So hopefully that's
1:12:14
Speaker 11: in the pipeline again. But honestly, I think one of
1:12:17
Speaker 11: the best panels that could be done would have Pam
1:12:20
Speaker 11: Bondy the current attorney general, the two previous the three
1:12:26
Speaker 11: or four previous attorneys general, Merrick Garland from Biden's administration,
1:12:30
Speaker 11: Bill Barr and Jeff Sessions from Trump's term, and go
1:12:33
Speaker 11: all the way back to Eric Holder. He didn't do
1:12:36
Speaker 11: anything either. So how with all these previous attorney generals
1:12:41
Speaker 11: and all the public things that have gone on about
1:12:43
Speaker 11: Jeffrey Epstein and his clients and client lists and trafficked women,
1:12:47
Speaker 11: and finally, ultimately during Trump's first term, you know, Epstein
1:12:53
Speaker 11: was prosecuted, and so was Julane Maxwell. So what's the
1:12:58
Speaker 11: story on this case. I mean, that's what people want
1:13:01
Speaker 11: to know. And when you put Julane and Maxwell, Julane
1:13:04
Speaker 11: Maxwell in prison for trafficking miners, Yeah, well they were
1:13:08
Speaker 11: trafficked to somebody. Yeah, we cure the rest of the prosecutions.
1:13:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the whole thing. All of this invites speculation
1:13:15
Speaker 1: and legitimate speculation. You know, Epstein's been previously identified as
1:13:19
Speaker 1: maybe it was a CIA asset. How did a pedophile
1:13:22
Speaker 1: become a CIA operative or asset? And you know the
1:13:26
Speaker 1: other thing about the Democrats, Congressman David said, you know
1:13:29
Speaker 1: this more than anybody. They made stuff up about Trump
1:13:34
Speaker 1: to go after him. The steel dott was whole cloth invention.
1:13:37
Speaker 1: They lie. Then we find out now that January sixth, well,
1:13:40
Speaker 1: you know, the pipe bombs being planted by probably an
1:13:42
Speaker 1: FB are a Capitol Police officer now working for the CIA,
1:13:46
Speaker 1: the point of that being to draw people's attention to
1:13:48
Speaker 1: the bombs and shut the government down. I mean, we
1:13:52
Speaker 1: don't have any trust out there in so far as
1:13:54
Speaker 1: that goes. But since they made so much stuff up
1:13:57
Speaker 1: about Trump and tried to capture him with me up. Intel.
1:14:01
Speaker 1: If there was something in these documents with all the
1:14:03
Speaker 1: people that had the Department of Justice was weaponized against
1:14:06
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, they would have released them, wouldn't they If
1:14:09
Speaker 1: there was something real in there about Trump?
1:14:13
Speaker 11: Yeah, they would have one hundred percent they would have.
1:14:15
Speaker 11: And look even when they tried, you know, last week
1:14:19
Speaker 11: earlier this week to selectively release some references in email,
1:14:23
Speaker 11: they redacted the name of the person that was in
1:14:26
Speaker 11: the email, and she's been public saying Donald Trump was helpful,
1:14:30
Speaker 11: he didn't do anything bad. So they are selectively trying
1:14:35
Speaker 11: everything possible. And here's the thing. Talk about the no
1:14:38
Speaker 11: moral outrage, how dad Donald Trump communicate with Jeffrey Epstein
1:14:42
Speaker 11: And they're going back to like two thousand and four
1:14:45
Speaker 11: in the nineties, well, post conviction. Stacy Plaskett, the delegate
1:14:50
Speaker 11: from virgin Islands, is real time texting with Jeffrey Epstein
1:14:56
Speaker 11: for what purpose?
1:14:57
Speaker 2: To try to get Trump?
1:14:58
Speaker 11: Yeah, oh, we got to find some way to go
1:15:00
Speaker 11: after Trump. And they're real time got pictures of her
1:15:05
Speaker 11: in the hearing texting, and then you got the text thread.
1:15:08
Speaker 11: And that was because not because of the Epstein files,
1:15:11
Speaker 11: but because Speaker Johnson and the House oversight team Jamie
1:15:15
Speaker 11: Kmer led a subpoena to get records from the Epstein estate,
1:15:22
Speaker 11: So you're getting extra information. So look, I think a
1:15:25
Speaker 11: lot of the information was forthcoming. Anyway that can be done.
1:15:29
Speaker 11: But to your point, and I think where a lot
1:15:30
Speaker 11: of people are when I talk to them, is you know, yeah,
1:15:33
Speaker 11: that's great. We don't really need more rage bait from Congress.
1:15:37
Speaker 11: When is somebody going to jail?
1:15:40
Speaker 12: You know?
1:15:41
Speaker 11: And I think that's the frustration. We want evidence coming
1:15:43
Speaker 11: out at trial where people are put on trial and
1:15:47
Speaker 11: convicted if.
1:15:49
Speaker 3: They were.
1:15:51
Speaker 11: Girls that were paid for this stuff, right exactly. So
1:15:56
Speaker 11: so that's the thing I mean, I think only Pambondi
1:15:58
Speaker 11: and frankly the other attorneys general can answer that question,
1:16:02
Speaker 11: like where are the prosecutions and if there's an explanation,
1:16:06
Speaker 11: we'll let us have it and look at it. In
1:16:09
Speaker 11: the speculation, either this guy was intelligence affiliated or he wasn't.
1:16:13
Speaker 11: That was the reference to alex Acosta when he was
1:16:17
Speaker 11: going to prosecute in and they did a settlement in
1:16:19
Speaker 11: a very friendly one frankly for someone you know, doing
1:16:22
Speaker 11: what Epstein was doing.
1:16:24
Speaker 1: No question about it. Well, the first the the first victim,
1:16:27
Speaker 1: I mean, you can name others. Treasury Secretary Larry Summer's
1:16:30
Speaker 1: now resigned from his board on open ai Elsa stepped
1:16:33
Speaker 1: down from position at Harvard. He was texting back and
1:16:36
Speaker 1: forth with Epstein seeking dating advice on it, how to
1:16:39
Speaker 1: go to bed with some female mentee whose dad was
1:16:42
Speaker 1: member of the Chinese Communist Party. So there's that. But
1:16:45
Speaker 1: then you had Congressman Mass saying he relied on US
1:16:48
Speaker 1: attorney or US Attorney's office files with the Southern District
1:16:51
Speaker 1: of New York, and he said out loud. Previously after
1:16:53
Speaker 1: deposing cash Bettel, he said the files include a Hollywood
1:16:57
Speaker 1: producer with worth a few hundred million dollars, one royal prince,
1:17:00
Speaker 1: one high profile individual in the music industry, very prominent banker,
1:17:04
Speaker 1: high profile government official, one high profile former politician, one
1:17:08
Speaker 1: owner of a car company in Italy, one rock star,
1:17:10
Speaker 1: one magician. At least six billionaires, including a billionaire from Canada.
1:17:15
Speaker 1: Where's pressure? Do you know of any pressure being put
1:17:19
Speaker 1: placed on senators or representatives behind the scenes saying don't
1:17:23
Speaker 1: release these I am mister one hundred million dollar powerful guy,
1:17:26
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get hurt as a consequence of releasing them.
1:17:29
Speaker 1: Do you know, if that was actually going.
1:17:30
Speaker 11: On at all, well, we know for sure there's a
1:17:34
Speaker 11: whole lot of overpressure being put on Congressman Thomas Massey
1:17:38
Speaker 11: to not be doing any of these things, right. You know,
1:17:41
Speaker 11: there are reports that there were pressure applied to some
1:17:45
Speaker 11: of the people that had signed the discharged petition, and
1:17:48
Speaker 11: then the tipping point came like once once the vote
1:17:50
Speaker 11: is forced. And you know, I never signed the discharge
1:17:53
Speaker 11: petition because I felt like, yeah, we are making good
1:17:55
Speaker 11: progress releasing it. The question I want is pam Mondy
1:17:59
Speaker 11: when the prosecutions So that still was an answer, But okay, fine,
1:18:05
Speaker 11: release the files once we're going to vote on it.
1:18:08
Speaker 11: I think overwhelmingly people we're gonna Like I had said
1:18:11
Speaker 11: last week, you know, I did an interview with CNN
1:18:14
Speaker 11: and they you know, supposed to talk about the shutdown
1:18:18
Speaker 11: and reopening the government, and of course they want to
1:18:20
Speaker 11: bury the lead there, so they go, well, what about
1:18:23
Speaker 11: the Epstein file When this comes up, how are you
1:18:25
Speaker 11: going to vote? Like, well, I'm going to vote yes,
1:18:28
Speaker 11: but but I think the bigger picture is, yeah, sure,
1:18:31
Speaker 11: disclose them. There may be something there that isn't already
1:18:34
Speaker 11: being disclosed, So fine, disclose it. But the real underlying
1:18:38
Speaker 11: question still is where are the prosecutions? When is someone
1:18:42
Speaker 11: going to jail? And disclosure isn't going to answer that?
1:18:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, And those those FBI files, apparently they must create
1:18:50
Speaker 1: one of these files every time someone comes to them
1:18:52
Speaker 1: with information about a crime. Those haven't been released yet.
1:18:55
Speaker 1: Those are all the victim's statements. FBI had those. Why
1:18:59
Speaker 1: wasn't anything done about it? Well, this is what will
1:19:02
Speaker 1: be revealed, hopefully if the documents are indeed produced within
1:19:04
Speaker 1: thirty days as they've been directed to by law. We'll
1:19:07
Speaker 1: continue with Congressman Warren Davidson. Find out what's next the
1:19:11
Speaker 1: talk station seven twenty here fifty five care see the
1:19:15
Speaker 1: talk station Happy Friday Eve. Brian Thomas here with Congressman
1:19:18
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson, moving past the Epstein file. Now that that's
1:19:21
Speaker 1: no longer a distraction, at least less of a distraction.
1:19:25
Speaker 1: The government's shutdown was all over the Democrats' efforts to
1:19:27
Speaker 1: extend the tax credits for people making north of what
1:19:30
Speaker 1: sixty two five hundred dollars. Those tax credit extensions are
1:19:34
Speaker 1: the waiver of the cap was as a consequence of
1:19:36
Speaker 1: COVID and LO and behold the deadline was approaching, and
1:19:39
Speaker 1: so the government gets shut down because the Democrats want
1:19:42
Speaker 1: to make these permanent. I think this has been quite revealing,
1:19:46
Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. And I'm wondering whether there's some project, piece
1:19:48
Speaker 1: of legislation, or proposal to fix the problem, which is
1:19:51
Speaker 1: the cost of medical care. This reveals the insane reality
1:19:55
Speaker 1: of Obamacare being fundamentally broken. If you think about it,
1:19:59
Speaker 1: a family only a four, if you're making north of
1:20:01
Speaker 1: sixty two to five, you're not eligible for a tax
1:20:03
Speaker 1: credit for your premium. You might pay as much as
1:20:05
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars a month for insurance that won't kick
1:20:08
Speaker 1: in until if you have a family, you've paid twenty
1:20:11
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars out of pocket. That's not insurance, Congressman Davidson,
1:20:16
Speaker 1: that is the revelation of a cossal failure.
1:20:21
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean this is fundamentally the as Republicans said.
1:20:24
Speaker 11: When you know, so far Republicans have uniformly opposed Obamacare,
1:20:30
Speaker 11: or at least refused to get rid of it. That's
1:20:33
Speaker 11: the famous McCain. Well, okay, I'm not going to vote
1:20:36
Speaker 11: to get rid of it, but so far Republicans haven't
1:20:39
Speaker 11: voted for Obamacare. In any way. Right, And here we
1:20:43
Speaker 11: are with these covid era subsidies that are going to
1:20:48
Speaker 11: insurance companies, not the individuals, right, expire here at the
1:20:53
Speaker 11: end of the year. And you know, Democrats, that's one
1:20:56
Speaker 11: of the long laundry list of one and a half
1:20:59
Speaker 11: trillion dollars worth of spending that they cite as why
1:21:02
Speaker 11: they wanted to shut the government down. And look, all
1:21:07
Speaker 11: that is is to cover up for the fact that
1:21:09
Speaker 11: Obamacare itself does not work. So of the places to
1:21:13
Speaker 11: send the subsidies the dumnest places the health insurance companies, right.
1:21:18
Speaker 11: I mean, the hospitals and doctors have expenses. You could
1:21:22
Speaker 11: send it to them. But the individuals are the ones
1:21:25
Speaker 11: that are trying to get cared for, so you could
1:21:27
Speaker 11: send the money to them. But when you've been sending
1:21:30
Speaker 11: the money to the health insurance companies they did in
1:21:32
Speaker 11: lower premiums. Premiums have been going up by double digits
1:21:35
Speaker 11: every year, the out of pocket maxes keep growing, claims
1:21:39
Speaker 11: are denied, you get things that are out of network
1:21:42
Speaker 11: that are crazy. It's like, no, it's in the same
1:21:44
Speaker 11: building house, it out of network. All these kinds of
1:21:46
Speaker 11: things have people livid about the current state of health care.
1:21:50
Speaker 11: Great quality, I mean tremendous doctors and nurses and care,
1:21:55
Speaker 11: great tech, but the cost and the payment system is
1:21:58
Speaker 11: a disaster. And look it was before Obamacare, but you know,
1:22:03
Speaker 11: we'd need to be honest. Obamacare did not work as
1:22:05
Speaker 11: a means of fixing it. And you know, frankly, shame
1:22:08
Speaker 11: on the House of Representatives because you know, Democrats have
1:22:12
Speaker 11: kept wanting to say Obamacare is great while hiding the
1:22:16
Speaker 11: fact that it isn't great. With more subsidies reinforcing you
1:22:19
Speaker 11: know what for them has to be the brand, Oh,
1:22:22
Speaker 11: we have to save it. And Republicans haven't trotted out
1:22:25
Speaker 11: the alternatives. We have lots of them, and I think
1:22:27
Speaker 11: the reality is you're going to see over the next
1:22:30
Speaker 11: few weeks some of the Republican plans are finally going
1:22:33
Speaker 11: to see the light of day and get some press
1:22:36
Speaker 11: and get some hearings and hopefully some votes.
1:22:39
Speaker 1: One could only hope. And you know, the whole ideal Obamacare,
1:22:41
Speaker 1: it was predicated on the idea that you could be
1:22:44
Speaker 1: forced to buy it. And that's one thing the Supreme
1:22:46
Speaker 1: Court said, no, the Commerce Clause cannot be used as
1:22:48
Speaker 1: an affirmative measure to make people do things. It can
1:22:51
Speaker 1: only be used to restrict people's activities. So once that
1:22:54
Speaker 1: went out the door, the entire Obamacare bubble burst. No
1:22:58
Speaker 1: one wanted this product because of the pediments, the out
1:23:01
Speaker 1: of pocket responsibility and liability, so it became an insurer
1:23:03
Speaker 1: of last resort, and every person with a medical illness
1:23:06
Speaker 1: went over to Obamacare. And that's why the premiums have
1:23:08
Speaker 1: gone through the roof, because they're doing nothing but paying claims.
1:23:11
Speaker 1: And healthy people aren't going with Obamacare because there's a
1:23:13
Speaker 1: private insurance market out there.
1:23:17
Speaker 11: Well yeah, and look, the vast majority of people are
1:23:19
Speaker 11: ensured by their employer, you know. So you know, going back,
1:23:23
Speaker 11: this is with some people call the original sin of
1:23:25
Speaker 11: American health care. During World War Two, they put wage
1:23:29
Speaker 11: caps so you couldn't pay workers more for some stupid
1:23:34
Speaker 11: FDR reason, and so they said, oh, well, we can't
1:23:38
Speaker 11: give them more cash, but we could pay for their
1:23:40
Speaker 11: health insurance. And so that kind of tradition has continued.
1:23:43
Speaker 11: It's a weird anomaly in the United States, and we've
1:23:46
Speaker 11: never corrected it because the payer of the bill isn't
1:23:49
Speaker 11: the consumer of the goods, and so the inflation just
1:23:54
Speaker 11: has soared for healthcare and as prices got higher, the
1:23:57
Speaker 11: demand is for more subsidies, which really just masks the
1:24:01
Speaker 11: underlying that's gone on with the insurance sector. So we
1:24:06
Speaker 11: have to get after that and fix it. And I
1:24:08
Speaker 11: think President Trump part of what broke Democrats is when
1:24:12
Speaker 11: he was saying, well, Okay, let's just send the subsidies
1:24:15
Speaker 11: to individuals instead of the insurance companies. Well, let's put
1:24:19
Speaker 11: talking about that. And I think we're going to talk
1:24:21
Speaker 11: more about that and a whole range of other alternatives,
1:24:24
Speaker 11: because we can't just keep cutting checks to the insurance
1:24:27
Speaker 11: companies and counting on them to fix the industry. It
1:24:30
Speaker 11: clearly hasn't worked well.
1:24:32
Speaker 1: And that just causes the American taxpayer to shoulder the
1:24:35
Speaker 1: burden of everything. The premiums aren't just disappearing, they're being
1:24:38
Speaker 1: masked by a government subsidy. And that just government subsidy
1:24:41
Speaker 1: means it's coming out of government coffers, meaning the federal
1:24:44
Speaker 1: a budget, a deficit inducing thing. So the premiums are
1:24:49
Speaker 1: still there, many people just weren't seeing them. So now
1:24:52
Speaker 1: again the veil has been removed on this Ponzi scheme,
1:24:55
Speaker 1: if I can loosely call it that, I'm looking for
1:24:58
Speaker 1: good things out of the Republicans on this obs lead
1:25:00
Speaker 1: the option of being giving the money directly to people
1:25:02
Speaker 1: like school choice, giving the tax dollars to these students
1:25:05
Speaker 1: and letting them them and the families choose. That seems
1:25:07
Speaker 1: to me an ideal thing. Noting again that there is
1:25:10
Speaker 1: a massive private market out there, and I represent a
1:25:12
Speaker 1: company that deals with people on the private market. Tons
1:25:15
Speaker 1: of options exist. Just like the federal gunment doesn't want
1:25:18
Speaker 1: you to believe there's anything but Obamacare a disaster. Gotrs
1:25:22
Speaker 1: some Rarin Davidson. God bless you, sir for coming on
1:25:24
Speaker 1: to the fifty five Casey Morning Show. We appreciate what
1:25:26
Speaker 1: you do for us and look forward to great things
1:25:28
Speaker 1: coming out of Congress as we move forward in the
1:25:31
Speaker 1: aftermath of the Epstein fight and the government closure fight.
1:25:36
Speaker 11: Well look, I don't want to let that become a
1:25:38
Speaker 11: distraction either. I mean, we're getting good things done. The
1:25:40
Speaker 11: Trump administration's on offense. Things are moving in the right direction,
1:25:44
Speaker 11: and we should keep that focus. We got to run
1:25:47
Speaker 11: through the tape and get the rest of our appropriations
1:25:49
Speaker 11: bills done and fund this government the proper way, which
1:25:53
Speaker 11: is a smaller, more focused government. But thanks a lot Brian,
1:25:57
Speaker 11: God bless you and all your listeners.
1:25:58
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Speaker 1: sixty second anniversary of Gettysburg dress Abraham Lincoln in person
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Speaker 1: live for the Empower You Seminar. Welcome to the program,
1:26:35
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln aka Larry Elliott. It's great to have you
1:26:38
Speaker 1: on today, Larry Abraham.
1:26:41
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, it's great to.
1:26:43
Speaker 6: Be on here today.
1:26:44
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, Yes, howdy Joe.
1:26:47
Speaker 3: How are you doing?
1:26:48
Speaker 1: I'm Brian. Joe's the producer anyway, that's all right. So
1:26:52
Speaker 1: you've been portraying Abraham Lincoln for what I understand is
1:26:56
Speaker 1: twenty two years you actually embraced the carry. It's like
1:27:00
Speaker 1: method acting. You are in the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln
1:27:03
Speaker 1: when you're doing these presentations. I understand you do this
1:27:05
Speaker 1: at a lot of schools and other events. How did
1:27:09
Speaker 1: you get involved with this Abraham Lincoln impersonation? What drove
1:27:12
Speaker 1: you to that? Larry, Well, the.
1:27:14
Speaker 8: Long and short of it, as Abe would say, I'm
1:27:17
Speaker 8: actually from Hodgenville, Kentucky, where Lincoln was born.
1:27:20
Speaker 9: I've been there, Yes, the birthplace.
1:27:24
Speaker 1: Yes, we went on a motorcycle my uncle and I
1:27:26
Speaker 1: went on a motorcycle trip. That was really cool. That
1:27:29
Speaker 1: the cabin inside that monument, that that was amazing. That
1:27:33
Speaker 1: place was tiny, that cabin that he was born in.
1:27:36
Speaker 8: Yeah, imagine living in that one room, dirt floor log cabin.
1:27:41
Speaker 8: Four folks, I'm all Paul's sister and only room enough
1:27:45
Speaker 8: for one bed. That would always be given a course
1:27:48
Speaker 8: to my mama. But in answer to your question, about
1:27:52
Speaker 8: twenty two years ago, I had a full beard and
1:27:56
Speaker 8: my wife said, why don't you enter the lookalike contests,
1:27:59
Speaker 8: which is always the first Saturday in October, and dress
1:28:03
Speaker 8: up like Abraham Lincoln and you're you know, you're kind
1:28:06
Speaker 8: of homely like him, and she's She's actually true. I mean,
1:28:10
Speaker 8: if God do you have the homely look?
1:28:12
Speaker 13: I have?
1:28:13
Speaker 8: The gate is Abraham Lincoln. And I entered the contest
1:28:16
Speaker 8: and I did terrible, and one of the Lincolns that
1:28:19
Speaker 8: was in the contest said, would you.
1:28:21
Speaker 9: Want to join us?
1:28:23
Speaker 8: To join us what's called the Abraham Lincoln Association presenters
1:28:27
Speaker 8: about two hundred and fifty at the time. And I
1:28:31
Speaker 8: began to look, and I looked up. You know, well,
1:28:33
Speaker 8: what's it like to be an Abraham Lincoln impersonator? We
1:28:36
Speaker 8: call ourselves presenters because we leave the word impersonator for
1:28:40
Speaker 8: Elvis Presley.
1:28:41
Speaker 9: And so I started going into schools. The schools love it.
1:28:47
Speaker 8: When I go to about one hundred schools a year
1:28:51
Speaker 8: and I dress up, of course as Abraham Lincoln.
1:28:54
Speaker 9: The kids love it.
1:28:56
Speaker 8: And I've been to fifteen hundred schools over the last
1:29:01
Speaker 8: twenty two years and get ready to go to about
1:29:04
Speaker 8: one hundred more here in February, March, and April. And
1:29:08
Speaker 8: my link Brian to Lincoln is this now Many people
1:29:12
Speaker 8: ask me, Oh, you're from Handinville. You must be ken
1:29:16
Speaker 8: to Abraham Lincoln. I said, no, I'm not, but my
1:29:19
Speaker 8: link to Lincoln is this my personal Larry Ellie, It's personal.
1:29:23
Speaker 8: Great great great grandmother Mary Brooks LaRue was the midwife
1:29:28
Speaker 8: who delivered Abraham Lincoln February twelfth, eighteen oh nine.
1:29:32
Speaker 1: How about that. That's amazing. Well, the birthplace, your stature,
1:29:39
Speaker 1: of course that connection. Plus your wife is named Mary
1:29:42
Speaker 1: as well, so a lot of great reasons to be
1:29:45
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln. To characterize Abraham Lincoln. What you're going to
1:29:48
Speaker 1: be doing tonight beginning at seven pm at the empower
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Speaker 1: you some on our studious three hundred Great Oaks Drive.
1:29:52
Speaker 1: I'm Bennasise. I want to bring you back because I'll
1:29:53
Speaker 1: ask you a few questions about Abraham Lincoln's life, and
1:29:56
Speaker 1: I understand that you offer insights into a lot of
1:29:59
Speaker 1: interesting inf about Abraham Lincoln that most of us don't
1:30:02
Speaker 1: know about. So let's bring Larry Elliott aka Abraham Lincoln
1:30:05
Speaker 1: back after these brief words beginning with Zimmer Heating and
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1:30:17
Speaker 1: here talking with Larry Elliott aka Abraham Lincoln. He's been
1:30:22
Speaker 1: sort of serving as the embodiment at Abraham Lincoln, doing
1:30:25
Speaker 1: presentations at groups and for obviously schools. More than fifteen
1:30:28
Speaker 1: hundred schools have enjoyed his presentation about the life of
1:30:30
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln. You can do a Q and A and
1:30:32
Speaker 1: ask Abraham Lincoln questions because apparently Larry knows everything. There
1:30:35
Speaker 1: is no about Abe real quick here, Larry. It's one
1:30:38
Speaker 1: thing to look like Abe Lincoln, which you do. Apparently
1:30:41
Speaker 1: it's six foot four year slim. You describe yourself as homely.
1:30:44
Speaker 1: I'll let people draw their own subjective conclusions about that
1:30:46
Speaker 1: born in Abraham Lincoln's hometown. It's one thing to look
1:30:49
Speaker 1: like him, maybe talk like him, but it's another thing
1:30:52
Speaker 1: to know all about him. How did you acquire all
1:30:55
Speaker 1: of this, this this wealth of insight into the man
1:30:58
Speaker 1: who was Abraham Lincoln?
1:30:59
Speaker 9: Larry, Well, the long and short of it. Brian is
1:31:05
Speaker 9: reading books.
1:31:07
Speaker 8: There are currently seventeen thousand books on Abraham Lincoln or
1:31:13
Speaker 8: about Abraham Lincoln, more books written on that man than
1:31:17
Speaker 8: any other person in the world other than Jesus Christ.
1:31:21
Speaker 8: So it takes a long time to perfect a portrayal
1:31:27
Speaker 8: of the Lincoln, of Abraham Lincoln. And so a real
1:31:33
Speaker 8: quick story that's funny to hear is the first time
1:31:37
Speaker 8: I did a portrayal in the school, I asked my
1:31:39
Speaker 8: friend to evaluate me, and after which we went to lunch.
1:31:43
Speaker 8: He's my best friend, and I said, what do you think, Mike?
1:31:45
Speaker 8: And he didn't say anything, and I said, well, Mike,
1:31:48
Speaker 8: what'd you think? And he said, well, don't quit your
1:31:50
Speaker 8: day job.
1:31:54
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what he does.
1:31:55
Speaker 9: That's what I said, Okay, I guess you love me.
1:31:58
Speaker 8: And he said it was bad. And so he's a
1:32:01
Speaker 8: very good critic. So I took some acting lessons and
1:32:05
Speaker 8: I thought, you know, I'm gonna portray this man. I'm
1:32:07
Speaker 8: gonna have the same gate as him, try to have
1:32:09
Speaker 8: the same voice inflection as him, even though we don't
1:32:13
Speaker 8: know totally what that was. It was kind of a hish,
1:32:16
Speaker 8: real voice, but just bringing history to the country because
1:32:24
Speaker 8: all these kids and most of these folks love Abraham Lincoln,
1:32:28
Speaker 8: but they really don't know much about him. So over
1:32:32
Speaker 8: the years, I have just crafted a portrayal, a presentation,
1:32:39
Speaker 8: and it's a lot of it's different depending on the
1:32:42
Speaker 8: audience where I am. So tonight's audience will be a
1:32:45
Speaker 8: little bit different because.
1:32:48
Speaker 9: I'm gonna be on for an hour.
1:32:50
Speaker 8: Some places I go to, you know, they only want
1:32:52
Speaker 8: me on for twenty or thirty minutes and so, but
1:32:56
Speaker 8: I can talk for five hours. I've given that much
1:32:59
Speaker 8: time because there's so much to talk about in so
1:33:02
Speaker 8: little time. So long and short answer to your question
1:33:07
Speaker 8: is just reading book reading reading books and reading books
1:33:10
Speaker 8: and crafting my own way of elocuting what Abraham Lincoln
1:33:16
Speaker 8: would say. Everything I will say tonight is authentically accurate.
1:33:21
Speaker 8: And I hope I'm questioned on anything because I think
1:33:24
Speaker 8: I'll have the answer, but I might not.
1:33:27
Speaker 9: So long and short of it, that's answer your question.
1:33:29
Speaker 1: Well, that's amazing and fun fact I learned today that
1:33:33
Speaker 1: many books are written about Abraham Lincoln. I guess I
1:33:34
Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised about that. This, I would hope, and
1:33:39
Speaker 1: I'm encouraging that this kind of goes with that saying,
1:33:41
Speaker 1: since you quite often do this presentation for school children
1:33:44
Speaker 1: and younger people, that maybe get them around to tell
1:33:47
Speaker 1: or the screen tonight or over to the seminar of
1:33:50
Speaker 1: the classroom, because they're certainly going to enjoy this, but
1:33:53
Speaker 1: adults will presumably be there as well. I guess I
1:33:56
Speaker 1: want to offer a question to you, because you do
1:33:59
Speaker 1: have insights that are not well well, No, we know
1:34:00
Speaker 1: about the Gettysburg address, we know about the Civil War,
1:34:02
Speaker 1: we know about his connection with ending slavery, a lot
1:34:05
Speaker 1: of the fun facts that were all no, But what
1:34:07
Speaker 1: pull out randomly some interesting things that you find fascinating
1:34:11
Speaker 1: about Abraham Lincoln the most people aren't even aware of.
1:34:15
Speaker 8: Well, Abraham Lincoln was thought of as an abolitionist, and
1:34:19
Speaker 8: that's the last thing he was.
1:34:21
Speaker 7: Now.
1:34:22
Speaker 8: He was against slavery. He was taught in Kentucky. If
1:34:24
Speaker 8: slavery isn't wrong, nothing is wrong. He saw slaves going
1:34:28
Speaker 8: down to Louisville Nashville Road dirt road in eighteen or
1:34:34
Speaker 8: eighteen fifteen as a six year old boy.
1:34:36
Speaker 9: He knew it was wrong.
1:34:37
Speaker 8: His father was a member of the very conservative anti
1:34:42
Speaker 8: slavery church, and his father moved to Indiana partly on
1:34:48
Speaker 8: account of slavery, because Indiana was opening up as a
1:34:51
Speaker 8: free state in eighteen sixteen.
1:34:55
Speaker 9: And so Lincoln from his early years the new slavery
1:35:01
Speaker 9: was wrong.
1:35:01
Speaker 8: He began to put two and two together that you know,
1:35:04
Speaker 8: the Decoration of Independence, that a all men are created equal.
1:35:10
Speaker 8: What's with the Founding Fathers allowing slavery in the greatest document,
1:35:16
Speaker 8: the Constitution, the world has ever known. But what many
1:35:20
Speaker 8: folks don't know, Brian, is the Founding Fathers fifty two
1:35:24
Speaker 8: of the fifty six where Judeo Christian Christians, and they
1:35:31
Speaker 8: many of them had slaves, they had inherited slavery. And
1:35:36
Speaker 8: we had just won the American Revolutionary War, and it
1:35:39
Speaker 8: was time to do away with slavery.
1:35:41
Speaker 9: But they couldn't because the South would not compromise. For
1:35:46
Speaker 9: they said, if we have to have if we have
1:35:49
Speaker 9: to do away with.
1:35:49
Speaker 8: Our slaves here now after the American Revolutionary War, well
1:35:53
Speaker 8: we're not going to join these northern states that had
1:35:57
Speaker 8: all but abolish slavery.
1:35:59
Speaker 9: So as the war began, most folks thought.
1:36:04
Speaker 8: That Abraham Lincoln would let the South go, but he said,
1:36:08
Speaker 8: right after the first shot was fired, this nation is
1:36:11
Speaker 8: worth fighting for to secure such an inestimable jewel. A
1:36:16
Speaker 8: portion of the people cannot destroy what the whole people created.
1:36:20
Speaker 8: I must save this government. So what the bigger picture
1:36:25
Speaker 8: that folks need to know is that at Abraham Lincoln
1:36:29
Speaker 8: had let them go, let the eleven states go, that seceded,
1:36:33
Speaker 8: we would probably be an entirely different looking country today. Yeah,
1:36:39
Speaker 8: and so that'll be a good part of my program
1:36:42
Speaker 8: tonight to let the people know just you know, Abraham
1:36:45
Speaker 8: Lincoln Brian single.
1:36:47
Speaker 9: Handedly saved our nation.
1:36:50
Speaker 6: And if you come.
1:36:51
Speaker 9: Tonight, I'm going to give you a DVD of the Daniel.
1:36:55
Speaker 8: Da Lewis video twelve years ago portraying Lincoln getting the
1:37:00
Speaker 8: Emancipation Proclamation passed as the Thirteenth Amendment January thirty first,
1:37:05
Speaker 8: eighteen sixty five.
1:37:07
Speaker 1: Well, that's wonderful. It's an extras center for people to
1:37:09
Speaker 1: show up at three hundred graae Oaks Drive tonight at
1:37:10
Speaker 1: seven pm to hear you speak. Yes, three do you
1:37:13
Speaker 1: ever give a d It's not a question I would
1:37:15
Speaker 1: think a young person would ask, but I imagine adult
1:37:18
Speaker 1: might ask because I've heard this many times over the years. Yes,
1:37:20
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said. That our country would
1:37:22
Speaker 1: not be the way it is now but for Abraham Lincoln,
1:37:25
Speaker 1: is you know, demanding that the Union remain intact? But
1:37:28
Speaker 1: what of the question of the foundation of our country
1:37:30
Speaker 1: and the declaration of independence? We have a right to
1:37:32
Speaker 1: self determination. If the government is not honoring our wishes
1:37:35
Speaker 1: and serving our interests, then we have a right to
1:37:37
Speaker 1: break free. Isn't that the argument that many advance on
1:37:40
Speaker 1: behalf of the South. Listen, you had no right to
1:37:42
Speaker 1: force them to stay or go to war with them
1:37:44
Speaker 1: over staying they wanted to leave.
1:37:47
Speaker 8: Well, indeed, you know, the South said it had nothing
1:37:51
Speaker 8: to do with slavery, which is absolutely wrong. Right, it
1:37:55
Speaker 8: had everything to do with what the Founding fathers vision was.
1:38:01
Speaker 8: Lincoln was ahead of his time in a sense, you know,
1:38:05
Speaker 8: the Founding Fathers. You know, Lincoln said this that no
1:38:08
Speaker 8: state can leave the Union without the consensus of the others.
1:38:13
Speaker 8: We must stay together to preserve this wonderful constitution, a
1:38:18
Speaker 8: declaration of the people, by the people, and for the people.
1:38:22
Speaker 9: What we must.
1:38:23
Speaker 8: Realize is in eighteen sixty the world was still about
1:38:29
Speaker 8: kings and tyrants and dictators, and the world wanted us
1:38:33
Speaker 8: to fail. They wanted this new government to fail. And
1:38:38
Speaker 8: Lincoln said, no, this Union is the world's best hope
1:38:42
Speaker 8: for democracy. I must save this government. So he single
1:38:48
Speaker 8: handedly he could have let them go, and you know,
1:38:52
Speaker 8: there would have been peace. And in the middle of
1:38:54
Speaker 8: the war, many folks said, how many more soldiers Americans
1:38:58
Speaker 8: killing Americans? Miss as your president, you call yourself and
1:39:01
Speaker 8: commander in chief. How many more soldiers have to die
1:39:05
Speaker 8: in order before you will let them go? And he
1:39:07
Speaker 8: said as many as it takes to preserve the union.
1:39:11
Speaker 3: Wow.
1:39:12
Speaker 1: Well, this is going to be absolutely fascinating. The portrayal
1:39:15
Speaker 1: of Abraham Lincoln. I my guest today, Larry Elliott, tonight
1:39:17
Speaker 1: seven pm. Empower Youeamerica dot Org. I recommend you show up.
1:39:21
Speaker 1: It's going to be wonderful to see and live at
1:39:23
Speaker 1: three hundred Great Oaks Drive, but online if you can't
1:39:26
Speaker 1: make it in person. But if you do show up,
1:39:27
Speaker 1: you got that DVD waiting for you. Thank you, Larry
1:39:30
Speaker 1: for doing that. I appreciate what you're doing all the
1:39:32
Speaker 1: time with this presentation, giving people an eye full of
1:39:35
Speaker 1: history and putting some context in this very complicated man
1:39:38
Speaker 1: who was Abraham Lincoln President during extremely complicated times. Thanks again, Larry.
1:39:43
Speaker 1: I wish you all the luck in the world. I
1:39:44
Speaker 1: don't think you need it, but enjoy the presentation tonight.
1:39:47
Speaker 1: I hope it's well attended. Seven fifty four. If it's
1:39:51
Speaker 1: five kre CD talk station, that should be a fun
1:39:53
Speaker 1: seminar tonight, very interesting too, and we're going to continue
1:39:56
Speaker 1: with them after the top of the R news. Timcgrath
1:39:57
Speaker 1: with the book Three Roads to Gettysburg. Yeah, and it's
1:40:02
Speaker 1: subtitled Mead and the eighty eighth Person's name Lee Lincoln
1:40:07
Speaker 1: and the Battle That Changed the Nation. So that'll be
1:40:09
Speaker 1: after the top of the air news. Plus yay, I
1:40:11
Speaker 1: heard me. The aviation expert Jay Ratliff returns after a
1:40:15
Speaker 1: battle with Bell's palsy. Thanks to everyone for the prayers
1:40:17
Speaker 1: that we sent Jay's way. He's ready to hit the
1:40:20
Speaker 1: ground running at the bottom of the next hour. And
1:40:22
Speaker 1: don't be these people. It's Thanksgiving next week. I love Thanksgiving.
1:40:28
Speaker 1: I have nothing but just beautiful, beautiful memories. Growing up,
1:40:31
Speaker 1: it was a family gathering all you know, you see
1:40:33
Speaker 1: people and uncles and aunts and relatives. We'd all get
1:40:36
Speaker 1: together and enjoy a feast and everyone seemed to be
1:40:38
Speaker 1: in a good mood. And that's the way it's been
1:40:41
Speaker 1: my entire life. And I don't remember ever ever a
1:40:50
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving devolving because of a political conversation. So with that
1:40:54
Speaker 1: in mind, ignore every Town for Gun Safety, which puts
1:40:57
Speaker 1: some Thanksgiving dinner talking points on its website giving you
1:41:02
Speaker 1: information on dealing with pro gun folks. Pro Second Amendment
1:41:07
Speaker 1: pros talking points framed around debunking gun myths, giving you
1:41:11
Speaker 1: responses to family members who are pro Second Amendment. For example,
1:41:16
Speaker 1: it says, if a pro Second Amendment family member says
1:41:17
Speaker 1: guns don't kill people, people kill people every time. For
1:41:22
Speaker 1: gun safety, says, respond by saying people with guns kill
1:41:25
Speaker 1: people and more efficiency efficiently than people without guns. Okay,
1:41:32
Speaker 1: that does not negate the reality that it's a person
1:41:35
Speaker 1: choosing to murder another person. In therein lies the societal challenge.
1:41:41
Speaker 1: Trust me. Look around the rest of the world where
1:41:43
Speaker 1: they don't have the right to keep in bare arms,
1:41:45
Speaker 1: they figure out other ways of killing people. Oh, I
1:41:48
Speaker 1: don't know, like driving a semi tractor trailer truck through
1:41:50
Speaker 1: a crowd. Yeah, there's a way. Beating people over the
1:41:54
Speaker 1: head with a guitar. Yes, less efficient than a gun,
1:41:56
Speaker 1: but it doesn't negate the reality that it is the
1:41:59
Speaker 1: violent conduct that leads to the carnage, not the firearm.
1:42:03
Speaker 1: And the best person to dispatch someone who is in
1:42:06
Speaker 1: a murdery mood is a person law abiding with a firearm.
1:42:11
Speaker 1: It goes on, But my advice is, don't talk about Trump,
1:42:16
Speaker 1: don't talk about firearms, don't talk about global warming one
1:42:20
Speaker 1: day of the year, enjoy friends and family. If you're
1:42:25
Speaker 1: fortunate enough like I have my entire life to enjoy
1:42:28
Speaker 1: the company of family on Thanksgiving, and I sure as
1:42:31
Speaker 1: hell hope that you are in that realm. I truly do.
1:42:37
Speaker 1: But even if you aren't, let's try to make it
1:42:40
Speaker 1: a plus side day. We have a lot to be
1:42:42
Speaker 1: thankful for. And if you've lost sight of a lot
1:42:45
Speaker 1: to be thankful for in this country, then you just
1:42:47
Speaker 1: sit back and take a pause and contemplate life elsewhere.
1:42:52
Speaker 1: Seven fifty five CACITY Talk Station Tim McGrath with the
1:42:55
Speaker 1: book Three Roads of Gettysburg plus Jay Ratliff coming up.
1:42:57
Speaker 1: Hope you can stick around today's top headlines.
1:43:00
Speaker 11: Got destroy about this now more than ever listen as
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Speaker 11: often as fifty five KRC the talk station.
1:43:11
Speaker 1: Ato six. Here at fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Happy
1:43:14
Speaker 1: Friday Eve the return of iHeartMedia Abash expert Jay RAYTLF
1:43:18
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the ar can't wait for that
1:43:19
Speaker 1: since Jay's went off for health issues and I was
1:43:22
Speaker 1: really looking forward to this segment. Welcome to the fifty
1:43:24
Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show. Award winning author Tim McGrath, who
1:43:27
Speaker 1: is continuing the theme. We just talked with a Lincoln
1:43:30
Speaker 1: portray as he's going to be doing a seminar tonight
1:43:32
Speaker 1: as Abraham Lincoln. This man has been doing her for
1:43:35
Speaker 1: twenty two years. Speaking of schools, he looks like Lincoln.
1:43:37
Speaker 1: He knows everything there is to know about Lincoln. Tim McGrath.
1:43:39
Speaker 1: He just told me that seventeen thousand books have been
1:43:42
Speaker 1: written about Lincoln. I don't know how many books have
1:43:45
Speaker 1: even mentioned George Gordon Mead, if there are, I don't
1:43:47
Speaker 1: know who George Gordon Mead is. You've written a book
1:43:50
Speaker 1: detailing his role in the Battle of Gettysburg Three Roads
1:43:54
Speaker 1: to Gettysburg, subtitled Mead Lee Lincoln and the Battle to
1:44:00
Speaker 1: Changed the War, The Speech that changed the Nation. Welcome
1:44:04
Speaker 1: to the Morning Show, Tim McGrath. It's a real pleasure
1:44:05
Speaker 1: to have you on.
1:44:07
Speaker 13: Thank you, mister Thomas. How's life in Cincinnati this morning?
1:44:10
Speaker 1: Hey, life is always good on a Friday Eve because
1:44:13
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's Friday ends the weekend. That's my attitude about life.
1:44:16
Speaker 1: You've written some congratulations on the awardy one, James Monroe
1:44:20
Speaker 1: a life, give me a fast Ship. You wrote that
1:44:23
Speaker 1: in John Barry, which is also highly a praise an
1:44:27
Speaker 1: American hero in the age of sail. What drew you
1:44:31
Speaker 1: to write about this Three Roads of Gettyburg, the Battle
1:44:36
Speaker 1: of Gettysburg, but also George Mead. And you're gonna have
1:44:39
Speaker 1: to give me a little insight into who George Mead
1:44:40
Speaker 1: was and how important he turned out to be in
1:44:42
Speaker 1: the course of the war.
1:44:45
Speaker 13: Sure, and again thanks for having me. Happy to George
1:44:49
Speaker 13: Mead's an unsung hero of the Civil War, end of
1:44:53
Speaker 13: our history.
1:44:55
Speaker 2: He was a.
1:44:57
Speaker 13: Son coming from a very successful fill health your merchant family.
1:45:01
Speaker 13: In fact, his dad was a hugely successful financier. Mead
1:45:07
Speaker 13: was born in kid in Spain during the Napoleonic tail
1:45:11
Speaker 13: end of the Napoleonic Wars, and his father was worth
1:45:16
Speaker 13: about had a fortune of about half a million dollars,
1:45:19
Speaker 13: which would make him easily a billionaire in today's times,
1:45:22
Speaker 13: and a bit of a hard customer when it came
1:45:28
Speaker 13: to negotiations and deals. But he lent his fortune to
1:45:32
Speaker 13: the Spanish government at the end of the Napoleonic Wars
1:45:35
Speaker 13: and he never got it back. In fact, he wound
1:45:37
Speaker 13: up in prison twice trying to get it back. So
1:45:42
Speaker 13: Mead was not born into the better living days of
1:45:46
Speaker 13: the family. He attended West Point. He was fifteen and
1:45:54
Speaker 13: graduated nineteenth in his class. He had wanted to be
1:45:57
Speaker 13: a lawyer, but that door was closed him for economic reasons.
1:46:01
Speaker 13: West Point is free. But he really had a talent
1:46:06
Speaker 13: for engineering. Mister Thomas he right before and right after
1:46:12
Speaker 13: the Mexican War, where he served rather gallantly under Zachary Taylor.
1:46:18
Speaker 13: He designed and oversaw construction of lighthouses from New Jersey
1:46:23
Speaker 13: down to the Florida Keys, and while they're not operational,
1:46:28
Speaker 13: most of them are still standing today. In one instance,
1:46:33
Speaker 13: he built one on a key where the lighthouse had
1:46:37
Speaker 13: been washed out twice by hurricanes and decided the best
1:46:41
Speaker 13: way to do it was to build a skeletal structure
1:46:44
Speaker 13: with a lighthouse on top and usual quarters on the key.
1:46:51
Speaker 13: There were two hurricanes that wiped out everything but the lighthouse.
1:46:55
Speaker 13: It was a very good judge of the ground, which
1:46:57
Speaker 13: certainly came in handy at Gettysburg.
1:47:00
Speaker 1: Okay, But with given that background, as brilliant as it
1:47:04
Speaker 1: may have been in his engineering background, how in the
1:47:07
Speaker 1: hell did Lincoln end up choosing him to lead the
1:47:09
Speaker 1: Union army in battle against Robert E.
1:47:11
Speaker 10: Lee.
1:47:13
Speaker 13: Well, Lincoln was having a tough time if you're a
1:47:20
Speaker 13: baseball fan. He was sort of like a better version
1:47:27
Speaker 13: of George Steinberner. Trying to find managers back in the
1:47:29
Speaker 13: seventies and eighties. He went to George McDowell, Urban McDowell,
1:47:35
Speaker 13: George McClellan twice, John Pope, Ambrose bird Side, and lastly
1:47:40
Speaker 13: fighting Joe Hooker, who had lost a disastrous battle at
1:47:44
Speaker 13: Chancellorsville in May of sixty three, and kept going back
1:47:49
Speaker 13: and forth with Hooker do we keep him or not?
1:47:52
Speaker 13: And finally, on June twenty eighth, Hooker offered his resignation
1:47:56
Speaker 13: for the emptieenth time, and Lincoln took it and then
1:47:59
Speaker 13: sent a friend of me, Colonel Hardy, to Frederick, Maryland,
1:48:03
Speaker 13: where Mead and his corps from the Army of the
1:48:05
Speaker 13: Potomac were in camp. He woke me up at four
1:48:07
Speaker 13: point thirty and me thought he was being arrested because
1:48:10
Speaker 13: he'd gotten into an argument with Hooker when Hooker said
1:48:15
Speaker 13: that his generals all voted to retreat, and Mead wanted
1:48:18
Speaker 13: to fight another day at Chancellorsville. So when Hardy told
1:48:22
Speaker 13: him that Lincoln wanted him to command the Army of
1:48:25
Speaker 13: the Potomac, he said, I don't want to do it,
1:48:28
Speaker 13: and Hardy said, this isn't an offer, this is a command.
1:48:32
Speaker 13: You were ordered to take command of the army. He
1:48:34
Speaker 13: was a Pennsylvanian, and that might have had something to
1:48:37
Speaker 13: do with it, because by now a good bit of
1:48:40
Speaker 13: Lee's army was already in Pennsylvania. So he only had
1:48:44
Speaker 13: about three days to try to get things organized and
1:48:47
Speaker 13: moving forward before the Battle of Gettysburg commenced on July first.
1:48:51
Speaker 1: Well, Sir, was he unproven in battle at that point
1:48:54
Speaker 1: when he was tapped for that job.
1:48:57
Speaker 6: No, not at all.
1:48:59
Speaker 13: He had been an engineer and an aid and a
1:49:02
Speaker 13: scout Zachary Taylor in the Mexican War, and served very bravely.
1:49:08
Speaker 13: He had by eighteen sixty two, I had command of
1:49:11
Speaker 13: his own corps, and at Fredericksburg in December of sixty two,
1:49:15
Speaker 13: which was a total disaster for the Army of the Potomac.
1:49:19
Speaker 13: Charging up to Maurice Heights, Lee had a definite high
1:49:24
Speaker 13: ground to that battle, but Mead's offense of that morning
1:49:29
Speaker 13: came this close to punching a hole in Lee's line,
1:49:34
Speaker 13: and he had to withdraw because he was asking for
1:49:37
Speaker 13: reinforcements to keep going and did not get them. It's
1:49:44
Speaker 13: sad because after the war there were jet political generals
1:49:47
Speaker 13: that he had either removed or replaced or whatever.
1:49:52
Speaker 6: That said.
1:49:53
Speaker 13: Oh, he didn't even want to fight at Gettysburg. He
1:49:55
Speaker 13: wanted to retreat from Gettysburg. One of them, most reciferously
1:49:59
Speaker 13: was a fellow dance Sickles, who's a story in itself.
1:50:03
Speaker 13: We would need another time to talk about that guy.
1:50:05
Speaker 1: There's another boy for you, Tim.
1:50:08
Speaker 6: But.
1:50:10
Speaker 13: Quite a scalawag. But he wasn't afraid to fight. He
1:50:15
Speaker 13: was very well seasoned, and while not as well known
1:50:18
Speaker 13: in the army, he won over their respect and was
1:50:25
Speaker 13: cheered mightily after that battle and at Apamatics. He was
1:50:29
Speaker 13: not present at McLean House with Grant and his entourage,
1:50:35
Speaker 13: but I think he would rather have stayed with his men.
1:50:37
Speaker 13: And when they got the news and he wrote down
1:50:39
Speaker 13: the ranks to tell them all, he was cheered rather bravely.
1:50:43
Speaker 3: Now.
1:50:43
Speaker 1: I presume that he learned military strategy well on the
1:50:46
Speaker 1: ground training in any of the battles he fought. But
1:50:49
Speaker 1: did they teach military strategy at West Point when he
1:50:51
Speaker 1: was there?
1:50:52
Speaker 13: Oh? Sure, But it was also the best engineering school
1:50:56
Speaker 13: in the Western hemisphere. And Roberty Lee is an amazing engineer.
1:51:03
Speaker 13: One of the things I found out was that he
1:51:06
Speaker 13: was sent in the eighteen thirty seven to Saint Louis,
1:51:09
Speaker 13: which was in danger of becoming dry dock because there
1:51:13
Speaker 13: was so much silt, sand and debris coming down river
1:51:17
Speaker 13: the way the current flowed that literally they weren't sandbars
1:51:21
Speaker 13: so much as islands. And he didn't have the money.
1:51:25
Speaker 13: He wanted to do things to get things straightened away,
1:51:28
Speaker 13: but he went the fault isn't here, it's further north,
1:51:32
Speaker 13: and he went up to the rapids along the river
1:51:35
Speaker 13: in Iowa des Moines Rapids and further down and came
1:51:40
Speaker 13: up with the idea of just blowing up little avenues
1:51:44
Speaker 13: in the rapids and the barriers and increasing the flow
1:51:51
Speaker 13: of the water.
1:51:52
Speaker 9: And it worked.
1:51:53
Speaker 13: He cleaned all that out, which ticked off some Illinois
1:51:59
Speaker 13: spec laters across on the other side of the river,
1:52:02
Speaker 13: who figured out, okay, that's going to be a ghost town.
1:52:06
Speaker 13: We'll set up a new commercial point and make a fortune.
1:52:14
Speaker 13: I found it ironic that historians and biographers have talked
1:52:18
Speaker 13: about Abraham Lincoln's two trips as a flatboatman down the
1:52:21
Speaker 13: Mississippi to New Orleans and how those trips changed him.
1:52:26
Speaker 3: And hit him so.
1:52:28
Speaker 13: Hard about the plight of the enslaved enslaved Americans, and
1:52:35
Speaker 13: that his trips down the Mississippi changed Lincoln. He Leave's
1:52:40
Speaker 13: trip on the Mississippi changed the Mississippi.
1:52:43
Speaker 1: That's amazing, so wild how things get connected like that. Now,
1:52:48
Speaker 1: I want you just to briefly explain how important that
1:52:50
Speaker 1: the name of the book again, Three Roads of Gettysburg
1:52:52
Speaker 1: med Lee Lincoln and the battle that changed the war,
1:52:55
Speaker 1: and the speech that changed the nation. Of course, the
1:52:57
Speaker 1: speech you're referring to one hundred and ninety second anniversary
1:53:00
Speaker 1: the Gettysburg addressed the importance of the Battle of Gettysburg
1:53:03
Speaker 1: boiled down into simpler terms. How important was that battle?
1:53:07
Speaker 1: And you know what might have happened had Made not
1:53:08
Speaker 1: been successful, had.
1:53:11
Speaker 13: Lean won, And it was the three of the bloody estates,
1:53:17
Speaker 13: the highest amount of casualties in a battle those three days,
1:53:21
Speaker 13: over fifty thousand between both armies and Mead would have
1:53:30
Speaker 13: had to have fought another battle, but it would have
1:53:33
Speaker 13: opened things up for Lee. Do I want to go
1:53:35
Speaker 13: to Philadelphia? Do I want to go to Baltimore? Do
1:53:38
Speaker 13: I want to go to Washington? Had had he won
1:53:43
Speaker 13: the ward there would have been another battle.
1:53:45
Speaker 6: It would have been.
1:53:45
Speaker 13: Interesting to see how that turned out. Ironically, neither general
1:53:50
Speaker 13: was there when the battle started. Lee didn't get to
1:53:52
Speaker 13: Gettysburg until late in the afternoon, me did not get up,
1:53:56
Speaker 13: unable to get up till till it was well after nightfall.
1:54:00
Speaker 13: And by the luck of the draw he had two
1:54:04
Speaker 13: other Pennsylvania generals, John Reynolds, who had also been offered
1:54:09
Speaker 13: to the command of the army and had turned it down.
1:54:13
Speaker 13: But a year earlier Reynolds, for the governor of Pennsylvania,
1:54:17
Speaker 13: had done some reconnaissant work about if we get invaded,
1:54:20
Speaker 13: where's the good spot to fight? And he saw the
1:54:23
Speaker 13: high ground at Gettysburg. There's a legendary little bit of
1:54:27
Speaker 13: things about the Duke of Wellington when they asked him
1:54:30
Speaker 13: at the Battle of Waterloo, why did you pick this place?
1:54:33
Speaker 13: And he said, because I saw it a year ago,
1:54:35
Speaker 13: and I kept it in my pocket. Reynolds certainly did
1:54:38
Speaker 13: the same thing. And ironically, while the Confederate Army drove
1:54:45
Speaker 13: the Union army back and out of Gettysburg, they drove
1:54:49
Speaker 13: them right to the high ground Reynolds had seen the
1:54:51
Speaker 13: year before. And after Reynolds died in the morning. Mead
1:54:56
Speaker 13: sent Winfield Scott Hancock, another Pennsylvanian who he trusted in deplicitly,
1:55:00
Speaker 13: to go over and say, look, you're in charge of
1:55:02
Speaker 13: things till I get there. And he saw the ground
1:55:05
Speaker 13: and sent a courier back to meet, say we know
1:55:09
Speaker 13: where we're going to fight. And that's pretty much. They
1:55:12
Speaker 13: held the high ground and it was a near run thing.
1:55:16
Speaker 13: You know. The Confederate Army of Northern Virginia came pretty
1:55:20
Speaker 13: close to breaking the line on July second, and feudalists
1:55:24
Speaker 13: pickets charge turned out to be. They still broke the
1:55:27
Speaker 13: line for a brief couple of minutes up on Cemetery
1:55:32
Speaker 13: Rich and Cemetery Hill.
1:55:33
Speaker 1: Well, in my understanding of the Gettysburg address, it's so important,
1:55:37
Speaker 1: and Lincoln would go from train stop to train stop,
1:55:39
Speaker 1: as I understand, delivered the same address. But there was
1:55:42
Speaker 1: no internet back then, there was no radio. Of course.
1:55:45
Speaker 1: It redefined the Civil War, not just as you know,
1:55:48
Speaker 1: there's you know, the struggle between the North and the
1:55:51
Speaker 1: South and preserving the Union, but also this idea that
1:55:54
Speaker 1: we need to achieve human equality. It's a moral war
1:55:57
Speaker 1: in addition to a political conflict. Am I right about
1:56:00
Speaker 1: the importance of that.
1:56:02
Speaker 13: Absolutely, absolutely, mister Thomas. He didn't utter a word of
1:56:08
Speaker 13: it till that afternoon he had he had a couple
1:56:12
Speaker 13: of whistle stops, and you know, we were talking. Somebody
1:56:15
Speaker 13: had said, I just came back I thought at Gettysburg
1:56:18
Speaker 13: or something like that. Well, you will have to tell
1:56:20
Speaker 13: me about it, and so forth. But as most people know,
1:56:26
Speaker 13: he was not the main speaker. He was invited as
1:56:29
Speaker 13: a not as an afterthought, but as a courtesy thinking.
1:56:33
Speaker 13: You know, he can say something to wrap things up.
1:56:36
Speaker 13: And the two hundred and seventy words, there's three different
1:56:39
Speaker 13: versions to sixty seven to seventy one, but he really
1:56:44
Speaker 13: welded jefferson sentence. You know that all men are created equal,
1:56:49
Speaker 13: with what he called a new birth of freedom. And
1:56:52
Speaker 13: I keep thinking, as we seem to collectively in our
1:56:56
Speaker 13: country have attention deficit syndrome. Don't history like my generation
1:57:03
Speaker 13: I'm seventy four learned. We don't teach civics and classes
1:57:07
Speaker 13: as my generation learned. And so it's it's short, and
1:57:14
Speaker 13: it's easy to read and understand, and at the same
1:57:18
Speaker 13: time it's a challenge for each generation of Americans since
1:57:22
Speaker 13: the Civil War to live up to that premise. You
1:57:25
Speaker 13: know that a new birth of freedom and all men
1:57:29
Speaker 13: are created equal. And I think the person who's said
1:57:33
Speaker 13: it best, mister Thomas, was doctor Barbara Fields and ken
1:57:38
Speaker 13: Burns's documentary which is thirty five years ago, when she
1:57:42
Speaker 13: said the Civil War is still being fought and it
1:57:45
Speaker 13: can still be lost.
1:57:46
Speaker 1: Tim McGrath, profound words from you in the book Three
1:57:49
Speaker 1: Roads of Gettysburg, Mead Lee Lincoln and the Battle that
1:57:52
Speaker 1: changed the War and the speech that changed the nation.
1:57:55
Speaker 1: Outstanding booked Tim. I'm going to encourage my listeners to
1:57:57
Speaker 1: go to my blog page if you have Carsey dot com.
1:57:59
Speaker 1: ORR producer Joe's got a link to your book and
1:58:01
Speaker 1: a link to how to get it, and I know
1:58:02
Speaker 1: they will a lot of history buffs in the audience.
1:58:05
Speaker 1: I appreciate putting pen to paper on this one. Tim.
1:58:07
Speaker 1: It's been a real pleasure talking with you, and I
1:58:08
Speaker 1: know my listener's got to love the book. It's take
1:58:12
Speaker 1: twenty nine fifty both KERCD Talk Station Man Thursdays have
1:58:15
Speaker 1: not been the same of late. You know how much
1:58:17
Speaker 1: I love talking to iHeart mediaviation extpert Jay Ratlift and
1:58:20
Speaker 1: he is back after about of Bell's Palsy. Jay Ratlift's
1:58:24
Speaker 1: so happy to have you on. Did you feel the
1:58:26
Speaker 1: power of prayer coursing through your body from my listening audience,
1:58:29
Speaker 1: Jay Ratlift, I.
1:58:31
Speaker 3: Did, indeed, sir, I did. Indeed. In fact, I got
1:58:33
Speaker 3: a lot of emails after about the second or third
1:58:35
Speaker 3: week saying hey, I've missed you, and I thought, wow,
1:58:37
Speaker 3: it took a while for him to miss the fact
1:58:38
Speaker 3: I wasn't there, But no, I got some very nice
1:58:40
Speaker 3: emails and a lot of people were chiming in as
1:58:43
Speaker 3: far as their experiences with Bell's Paulsy and yeah, I
1:58:47
Speaker 3: was getting ready for church the last Sunday of October,
1:58:51
Speaker 3: looked in the mirror and the left side of my
1:58:52
Speaker 3: face was drooping, and I thought, well, that's not right.
1:58:56
Speaker 3: Stroke straight to the eat. Well, you know that was
1:58:58
Speaker 3: my first thought. But there was any other stroke related symptoms.
1:59:01
Speaker 3: And I know that because I have a daughter that's
1:59:03
Speaker 3: the heart and vascular ICU nurse. But you know, I
1:59:06
Speaker 3: promised my girls anytime that something didn't look right, off
1:59:09
Speaker 3: to the hospital I go, and I did, and they
1:59:11
Speaker 3: quickly assessed me and said it was Belle's palsy viral infection.
1:59:15
Speaker 3: It was mild and they said, Jay, we don't know
1:59:17
Speaker 3: if it's going to be days, weeks or months before
1:59:20
Speaker 3: we were able to get back, you know, to where
1:59:22
Speaker 3: it's normal. And you know, fortunately it was a mild case.
1:59:26
Speaker 3: The saddest part was my family didn't seem to mind
1:59:29
Speaker 3: me talking less, and I think that was I wasn't
1:59:33
Speaker 3: really ready for that ultra dose of compassion. But no,
1:59:36
Speaker 3: it it went well. And Buddy, I missed my routine.
1:59:41
Speaker 3: I yeah, still doing my trading stocks, is still training,
1:59:44
Speaker 3: but you know the routine of which day it is.
1:59:47
Speaker 3: As far as my radio stuff as I have stuff
1:59:50
Speaker 3: around the country, there were days I had to remind
1:59:53
Speaker 3: myself what day of the week it was, and that
1:59:55
Speaker 3: was so I'm glad to.
1:59:56
Speaker 1: Have the routine back, and so are my listening audience
1:59:59
Speaker 1: and me very much, which I just I find this
2:00:01
Speaker 1: the segment so fascinating and often quite comical. We will
2:00:04
Speaker 1: get to a comical one at the tail end of
2:00:06
Speaker 1: our discussion. This morning, let us talk and you missed
2:00:10
Speaker 1: out on quite a bit of aviation news. There was
2:00:12
Speaker 1: wasn't a day or a week that went Biden say, man,
2:00:14
Speaker 1: I wish Jay Ratliffe was in better tradition. Yeah, I
2:00:19
Speaker 1: guarantee you Joe would have called you for a you know,
2:00:22
Speaker 1: out of the ordinary segments on some other day of
2:00:24
Speaker 1: the week because of what was going on. So let's
2:00:26
Speaker 1: move past the shutdown and let's talk about the Trump
2:00:29
Speaker 1: administration has decided to withdraw the cash compensation rule that
2:00:33
Speaker 1: would have required airlines to pay cash for delays. Did
2:00:37
Speaker 1: the shutdown and all the complications and the literally thousands
2:00:40
Speaker 1: of flights that were canceled delayed to have anything to
2:00:42
Speaker 1: do with this decision? What's behind this jay ratlift?
2:00:44
Speaker 3: Well, well, it's the fact that the Trump administration is
2:00:47
Speaker 3: a very cozy relationship with airlines. We've talked about this.
2:00:50
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this was a Biden something that Joe Biden
2:00:56
Speaker 3: his administration put him about a year ago. And this
2:00:58
Speaker 3: cash compensation rule, which is what we referred to it as, said, Look,
2:01:03
Speaker 3: if you're a passenger and you're delayed more than three
2:01:05
Speaker 3: hours or more, you're going to be entitled to cash
2:01:08
Speaker 3: compensation guaranteed meals, lodging when necessary, and ground transportation when
2:01:14
Speaker 3: it applies. And of course, when Donald Trump was elected,
2:01:18
Speaker 3: which I was very glad to see, airline stocks hole
2:01:20
Speaker 3: went up and people said, well, Jay, why would that
2:01:24
Speaker 3: be the case? And I said, well, to be candid,
2:01:26
Speaker 3: there's a very good relationship there was in the first
2:01:28
Speaker 3: administration between Trump and the airlines and the Biden administration.
2:01:32
Speaker 3: And you've heard me say this repeatedly. Even though I
2:01:34
Speaker 3: did not care for it at all, they did try
2:01:37
Speaker 3: to hold airlines accountable and they did more in that
2:01:39
Speaker 3: regard than any other presidential administration that I can remember,
2:01:43
Speaker 3: going back three decades. They absolutely hammered airlines trying to
2:01:47
Speaker 3: hold them accountable. And then, of course once the Trump
2:01:50
Speaker 3: administration takes over, and after yes, the airlines donated a
2:01:54
Speaker 3: million dollars each to the Trump inaugural fund. Blowing was
2:01:57
Speaker 3: in that line as well. It was like okay, it
2:02:00
Speaker 3: was just it was there. You knew what was going
2:02:02
Speaker 3: to happen. And of course Boeing, remember they pleaded guilty
2:02:05
Speaker 3: to a lot of criminal issues in connection with the
2:02:09
Speaker 3: Boeing Max crashes that we had a number of years ago.
2:02:13
Speaker 3: After Trump gets elected, they go back to the Department
2:02:15
Speaker 3: Transportation asking if they could withdraw some of that and
2:02:19
Speaker 3: kind of have it revisited, and they did, and they
2:02:23
Speaker 3: nothing went to trial to find that was it. So
2:02:27
Speaker 3: it really bothered me, and I wasn't surprised at all
2:02:30
Speaker 3: because I knew that that was going to go off
2:02:33
Speaker 3: the table, even though other countries around the world have
2:02:36
Speaker 3: something similar to this in place. It's the airlines to
2:02:39
Speaker 3: tell the government what they're going to do many places,
2:02:41
Speaker 3: and refreshingly, that wasn't the case during the last four years,
2:02:46
Speaker 3: and I was really glad to see it. But the
2:02:49
Speaker 3: reality that the Donald Trump administration would continue that same
2:02:53
Speaker 3: course was a real slight consideration, and I wasn't surprised.
2:02:59
Speaker 3: I was ticked because I really wanted to see it
2:03:01
Speaker 3: in place. It needed to be in place, but unfortunately
2:03:05
Speaker 3: it's not.
2:03:06
Speaker 1: Well, what would the financial landscape look like if the
2:03:10
Speaker 1: rules in place and they were required to issue cash
2:03:13
Speaker 1: compensation for the delays and the cancelations after what happened
2:03:16
Speaker 1: during the shutdown, Well, let's see.
2:03:19
Speaker 3: The cat you mean to the airlines, they Delta and
2:03:22
Speaker 3: United would not be allowed to report or wouldn't be
2:03:25
Speaker 3: able to report a billion dollars in profits in a
2:03:28
Speaker 3: single quarter. That's probably the number one thing, because you know,
2:03:32
Speaker 3: when you're actually being forced to compensate passengers when you
2:03:36
Speaker 3: screw up. And I'm not talking about weather delays and
2:03:38
Speaker 3: things like that. But when you intentionally schedule more flights
2:03:43
Speaker 3: than you know you can pull off, and you're counting
2:03:45
Speaker 3: on a percentage of those canceling, which happens. That's why
2:03:48
Speaker 3: they overbook flights. There's going to be a percentage of people.
2:03:51
Speaker 3: And there's airlines that have thirty five gates available at
2:03:55
Speaker 3: a time, and they'll schedule forty airplanes to arrive at
2:03:57
Speaker 3: the same time, counting on five of them being late.
2:04:01
Speaker 3: Yet will all forty get there at the same time.
2:04:02
Speaker 3: We five have to be sitting out on the tarmac
2:04:05
Speaker 3: and you and I been through that.
2:04:06
Speaker 1: Well, that's culpability there. At least you can point to
2:04:08
Speaker 1: a decision they made which is exposed as them because
2:04:11
Speaker 1: they chose to overbook, unlike say an act of God kind.
2:04:15
Speaker 3: Of thing, which those things wouldn't be covered under this
2:04:18
Speaker 3: right rule. It would be a late arriving crew, repeating
2:04:23
Speaker 3: mechanical issues, these types of things that you know squarely
2:04:26
Speaker 3: could fall on the lap of the airlines. And now
2:04:28
Speaker 3: what they do when we have those issues, Brian, They'll
2:04:31
Speaker 3: give us here's five thousand frequent flyers, right, big apology there?
2:04:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and I suppose air traffic control is not
2:04:40
Speaker 1: showing up because of government action or inaction as the case.
2:04:42
Speaker 1: Maybe that also is isn't the airline's fault? They didn't
2:04:46
Speaker 1: tell the f the employees who are mandatory or necessary
2:04:49
Speaker 1: not to show up to work causing problems. So no
2:04:52
Speaker 1: ripple effects on them.
2:04:53
Speaker 3: Right, A real quick ps to that. You know airlines
2:04:56
Speaker 3: were mandated to reduce their flight activity in those forty airports.
2:05:00
Speaker 1: Yes, they were ordered to, and we'll talk about that next.
2:05:03
Speaker 1: Because that order mandating reductions over effective this past Monday
2:05:07
Speaker 1: at six am. Did it have any effect? Are we
2:05:09
Speaker 1: okay to travel on Thanksgiving? That we will talk about
2:05:11
Speaker 1: coming up next, among other topics with Jay Ratliffe, the
2:05:14
Speaker 1: return of Jay Ratliff, What a wonderful thing. Don't go away?
2:05:17
Speaker 4: Fifty five KRC the talk station.
2:05:21
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in the cockpit before Jay Ratliffe
2:05:23
Speaker 1: has the return of Jay Ratliff after a brief health
2:05:26
Speaker 1: stent with Bell's policy. Is so pleased to have them
2:05:28
Speaker 1: back on the program. And there was much rejoicing. Okay,
2:05:31
Speaker 1: the FAA entity emergency order mandating reductions reductions brought about,
2:05:35
Speaker 1: I guess because while this shutdown was going on in
2:05:38
Speaker 1: spite of the fact they were guaranteed to get their
2:05:39
Speaker 1: pay and they are essential employees. Air traffic controllers were
2:05:42
Speaker 1: choosing to take days off, calling in sick, and I
2:05:45
Speaker 1: get that on some level maybe they had to go
2:05:46
Speaker 1: out and get another job, but it happened, and so
2:05:48
Speaker 1: we had to reduce flights. That's over effected This past
2:05:52
Speaker 1: Monday at six am. Are things looking good in terms
2:05:55
Speaker 1: of air traffic control?
2:05:56
Speaker 3: Now?
2:05:56
Speaker 1: Have they come back to work? Are we on schedule?
2:05:59
Speaker 3: Jay Ratliffe, Yeah, we're on schedule. Now. Keep in mind,
2:06:03
Speaker 3: before the shutdown we still were battling with a shortage
2:06:07
Speaker 3: of air traffic controllers. Oh, we're averaging averaging per day
2:06:11
Speaker 3: about thirty nine hundred flight delays a day. So when
2:06:15
Speaker 3: we get back to normal, we can measure that by
2:06:18
Speaker 3: are we seeing less than four thousand delayed flights today?
2:06:20
Speaker 3: If so, yeah, we're right in check. So we have
2:06:23
Speaker 3: gotten back to that. In fact, airlines have made it
2:06:26
Speaker 3: clear that look, they're going to have all hands on deck.
2:06:29
Speaker 3: Schedule is going to be at full capacity for what,
2:06:31
Speaker 3: in his essence, the busiest travel week of the year,
2:06:34
Speaker 3: which is the busy Thanksgiving travel period. You have the
2:06:38
Speaker 3: busiest day of the week Historically the Sunday after Thanksgiving,
2:06:41
Speaker 3: the second busiest day of the year, is typically the
2:06:43
Speaker 3: Wednesday before So airlines have made it clear that they
2:06:46
Speaker 3: do not anticipate any issues for that, and they did
2:06:50
Speaker 3: say at six am on Monday that those restrictions that
2:06:54
Speaker 3: they had in place at those forty airports to reduce
2:06:57
Speaker 3: the traffic by I think it was four or five
2:07:00
Speaker 3: six percent something along those lines, they were going to
2:07:02
Speaker 3: increase it to ten percent. We never had to get
2:07:04
Speaker 3: to that. But the FAA also noted Brian that not
2:07:08
Speaker 3: all airlines restricted the number of their flights at those
2:07:12
Speaker 3: airports as they were required to do. Now, the FAA
2:07:16
Speaker 3: has said for any airline that did not do what
2:07:18
Speaker 3: they were supposed to, they're going to seek a fine
2:07:22
Speaker 3: of US seventy five thousand dollars for every flight operated
2:07:25
Speaker 3: above that mandated limit. Now, I can tell you some
2:07:29
Speaker 3: airlines are going to be hit with a fine, and
2:07:31
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you most of those airlines it's
2:07:33
Speaker 3: going to be negotiated down or go away. We're back
2:07:36
Speaker 3: to that same arrogance of the airlines and the airlines
2:07:38
Speaker 3: kind of telling the government what they're going to do.
2:07:40
Speaker 3: Instead of the other way around, and it frustrates me.
2:07:43
Speaker 3: But that's just the reality of the power of the
2:07:46
Speaker 3: lobbying group that you really have with the airlines, and
2:07:49
Speaker 3: it's going to continue to be the case. So I'm
2:07:51
Speaker 3: excited that they are going to be held accountable with
2:07:53
Speaker 3: a possible seventy five thousand dollars per flight. Fine, but
2:07:57
Speaker 3: I know it's not going to stick.
2:07:59
Speaker 1: Well if you got them much power, and you know,
2:08:00
Speaker 1: the fools one that's not looking out for his or
2:08:02
Speaker 1: her own best interests, you have to at least make
2:08:05
Speaker 1: the argument that you should lower it. Now you ask
2:08:07
Speaker 1: him for seventy five thousand, how about we write you
2:08:09
Speaker 1: a check for ten and hopefully you land someplace in
2:08:11
Speaker 1: the middle or closer to the lower side if you're
2:08:13
Speaker 1: the airline. But of course you're going to try to haggle.
2:08:15
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean the government has to concede to your demands.
2:08:18
Speaker 3: But I just would like for all it maybe oh
2:08:21
Speaker 3: fifty thousand in IRS taxes. Can we negotiate that down
2:08:24
Speaker 3: to like thirty I don't think so.
2:08:27
Speaker 1: There's some coveny.
2:08:28
Speaker 6: It's not fair.
2:08:28
Speaker 1: There's some companies out there that advertise all the time
2:08:31
Speaker 1: on various radio programs saying they can do exactly that.
2:08:34
Speaker 1: You know, you're on the hook for the irs for fifty.
2:08:36
Speaker 3: Grand that's in penalties and things like that. I know
2:08:40
Speaker 3: if you haven't known what you're supposed to, But Brent,
2:08:43
Speaker 3: it just bothers me because there's a safety related fine
2:08:45
Speaker 3: where the fa you know, hit some airline with a
2:08:48
Speaker 3: four million dollars you didn't do the maintenance you were
2:08:50
Speaker 3: supposed to find it's negotiated down to like a third
2:08:53
Speaker 3: of that as long as they promise never to do
2:08:55
Speaker 3: it again. And it just it just I walk around
2:08:57
Speaker 3: banging my head off the wall because it's just how
2:09:00
Speaker 3: are we going to learn a lesson if it doesn't
2:09:02
Speaker 3: have some teeth in it when you're actually talking about
2:09:05
Speaker 3: consequences for actions that they knew.
2:09:07
Speaker 2: Not to do.
2:09:08
Speaker 1: Well, And you know there's other thing is which is
2:09:10
Speaker 1: avoiding the problem in the get go by continuing to
2:09:13
Speaker 1: pay the traffic air traffic controllers during a shutdown. And
2:09:17
Speaker 1: I know there was a meeting yesterday with the Senate
2:09:18
Speaker 1: Aviation sub Committee here and they were talking about just
2:09:20
Speaker 1: that now we could pick areas of government that you've
2:09:23
Speaker 1: got to pay these people period in the story. Look
2:09:25
Speaker 1: what happened last time when these particular people weren't paid,
2:09:27
Speaker 1: they didn't show up, didn't do the job, and we
2:09:29
Speaker 1: couldn't fly an airplane. I know because I learned during
2:09:33
Speaker 1: this shutdown that banks will provide government employees with interest
2:09:37
Speaker 1: free loans, knowing full well that the government is going
2:09:40
Speaker 1: to pay them back when they go back to work.
2:09:41
Speaker 1: The money is sound secure. There's no issue with regard
2:09:44
Speaker 1: to losses. You enter into paperwork, you pay them back
2:09:47
Speaker 1: when you get your paycheck, no problem. I found out
2:09:49
Speaker 1: there's something called the Airport and Airway Trust Fund. They
2:09:53
Speaker 1: have their own trust fund, and there was some discussions
2:09:56
Speaker 1: about listen, let us tap in the air to this
2:09:58
Speaker 1: trust fund air employees, and then, of course, like the
2:10:02
Speaker 1: banks get paid back when they come back to work,
2:10:04
Speaker 1: we can refund the trust fund. What is wrong with
2:10:06
Speaker 1: that as a solution.
2:10:07
Speaker 3: It's Nothing's wrong with it, And it frustrates me. A
2:10:10
Speaker 3: lot of those things that were available weren't used and utilized,
2:10:14
Speaker 3: and you had a lot of air traffic controllers, as
2:10:17
Speaker 3: you mentioned, forced to go do door dash or whatever
2:10:19
Speaker 3: other job they had so they could get paid and
2:10:21
Speaker 3: had some money coming in. And I like Donald Trump's
2:10:25
Speaker 3: President Trump's thought about, hey, let's give every air traffic
2:10:28
Speaker 3: controller who didn't call in sick during this at ten
2:10:30
Speaker 3: thousand dollars bonus. There's always things that we can look
2:10:34
Speaker 3: at doing and sadly and sanely, so every time we
2:10:37
Speaker 3: go through one of these things, you do have a
2:10:39
Speaker 3: situation where you've got an air traffic control network that's
2:10:42
Speaker 3: already stressed. Because remember, if we're three thousand air traffic
2:10:47
Speaker 3: controllers short as of this moment, you have people working
2:10:50
Speaker 3: over time. You've got a lot of exhausted people out
2:10:53
Speaker 3: there that these men and women, they are just trying
2:10:55
Speaker 3: to keep things rolling. It's going to be the same
2:10:57
Speaker 3: thing over the holidays of Thanksgiving and from the fifteenth
2:11:00
Speaker 3: of December to the end of the year, where you
2:11:03
Speaker 3: know it's going to be stretched. Now, it's not unsafe,
2:11:06
Speaker 3: but because when we start getting a lot of congestion,
2:11:08
Speaker 3: the airlines have a throttle back policy where they will
2:11:11
Speaker 3: reduce the airflow into a certain region based on the
2:11:14
Speaker 3: air traffic controllers that they have in place. So there
2:11:17
Speaker 3: are always safety standards that we have there from a
2:11:19
Speaker 3: minimum that prevent a lot of over taxing where we're
2:11:23
Speaker 3: trying to put too many flights in a specific area,
2:11:26
Speaker 3: and that's good to see, and that's why you have
2:11:28
Speaker 3: the ground stops and the other things that take place
2:11:30
Speaker 3: when we have an air traffic management situation that occurs.
2:11:34
Speaker 3: So I don't want anybody to worry with this shortage,
2:11:37
Speaker 3: but it does cause some headaches, and that's one of
2:11:39
Speaker 3: the reasons I've been thrilled that President Trump is saying, look,
2:11:41
Speaker 3: let's get this fix. But when you recognize to get hired,
2:11:44
Speaker 3: you're five years away from working on your own, it's
2:11:47
Speaker 3: a process. So we've got to increase the facilities. We've
2:11:50
Speaker 3: got a shortage of air traffic control trainers. We've got
2:11:53
Speaker 3: to address that, maybe hiring people from other countries to
2:11:56
Speaker 3: come in as well. So there's a lot of things
2:11:58
Speaker 3: in place that we're looking at, and I just hope
2:12:01
Speaker 3: it continues to remain a priority for President Trump because
2:12:04
Speaker 3: if he can get this fixed, then for the next
2:12:07
Speaker 3: fifteen years, things are going to be much better in aviation.
2:12:10
Speaker 3: The same way if he can address the outdata technology
2:12:13
Speaker 3: for the next twenty years, that's going to benefit this country.
2:12:16
Speaker 3: So President Trump is doing some things that other people
2:12:19
Speaker 3: have talked about. No one has done to any significance,
2:12:22
Speaker 3: and if he can pull it off, the benefits of
2:12:25
Speaker 3: him will outlive us with regards to what's taking place.
2:12:29
Speaker 3: And I'm thrilled to see it, and I just hope
2:12:30
Speaker 3: it continues.
2:12:31
Speaker 1: I mean, how many generations if humanity have been born
2:12:34
Speaker 1: since the end of floppy disc usage? Jay Ratliff and
2:12:38
Speaker 1: is still using.
2:12:39
Speaker 3: Fly ground based radar going back to World War Two.
2:12:42
Speaker 3: You know that's a lot of this stuff is based
2:12:44
Speaker 3: on too, So it just nuts when you look at it.
2:12:47
Speaker 1: I'm going to end in a lighter note. Plus, hub
2:12:49
Speaker 1: delay is coming up. Hey listen if you want a
2:12:50
Speaker 1: windows if you want to look out a window by
2:12:52
Speaker 1: a window seat, more with Jay Ratliff after these brief words.
2:12:55
Speaker 1: Fifty five the the talk station. Hey fifty if if
2:13:02
Speaker 1: you have kc DE talk station. So nice, hevan Jay Ratliff.
2:13:06
Speaker 1: I heard media aviation expert back on the program. So
2:13:09
Speaker 1: happy that he's over the bell's palsy issue. And I
2:13:12
Speaker 1: guess timing couldn't have been better. As we're getting ready
2:13:14
Speaker 1: to segue into if you want to view again, get
2:13:16
Speaker 1: a window seat. I looked up Jay, there's a Babylon
2:13:19
Speaker 1: b post. I sort of clicked on like and I
2:13:22
Speaker 1: get their posts from time to time. It's a picture
2:13:24
Speaker 1: of a guy. It's a picture of a guy in
2:13:26
Speaker 1: an airline or an airplane holding his head. Headlined mail
2:13:29
Speaker 1: passenger disappointed after another flight ends without a stewardess, frantically
2:13:33
Speaker 1: asking if anyone can land the plane, just like it
2:13:37
Speaker 1: happens in the movies all the time. Anyway, moving absolutely
2:13:40
Speaker 1: got what. You're not entitled to a view if you're
2:13:43
Speaker 1: on an airplane unless you're in a window seat, right, Jay, Oh.
2:13:47
Speaker 3: This is just just maddening, but it is. There's a
2:13:51
Speaker 3: class action lawsuit that's being brought on by passengers against
2:13:55
Speaker 3: Delta and United because passengers are paying four window seats
2:14:00
Speaker 3: and when they board the airplane and they're seated in
2:14:02
Speaker 3: that seat, there's no window. It's a wall. And the
2:14:06
Speaker 3: way this happens is when an aircraft is delivered to
2:14:09
Speaker 3: an airline, it's specifically configured the way the airline wants.
2:14:12
Speaker 3: We're gonna have x amount of seats up front and
2:14:14
Speaker 3: premium or first class, and then we're gonna have this
2:14:16
Speaker 3: many seats and coach, and normally the buffer between the
2:14:19
Speaker 3: two you won't have a window. It'll just kind of
2:14:22
Speaker 3: be the wall itself. When an airline will then change
2:14:26
Speaker 3: the number of seats and coach or first class, the
2:14:29
Speaker 3: rows get adjusted where everything moves back a bit or
2:14:33
Speaker 3: forward a bit, and then invariably what happens is you'll
2:14:36
Speaker 3: have a seat that's moved a whole row where instead
2:14:39
Speaker 3: of having a window, you're now seated next to that
2:14:42
Speaker 3: wall where you don't have a window. So keep in
2:14:45
Speaker 3: mind you're being paid extra, You're being charged extra to
2:14:48
Speaker 3: sit in a premium seat, a window seat, and passengers saying, look,
2:14:52
Speaker 3: I paid for a window seat and I'm getting there
2:14:54
Speaker 3: and I'm next to a wall. I want a window.
2:14:57
Speaker 3: And now there's this class action loss suit and United
2:15:01
Speaker 3: has made it clear just because you've paid for a
2:15:03
Speaker 3: window seat doesn't entitle you to a view. And Brian,
2:15:07
Speaker 3: every time I've talked about this, I have thought, I
2:15:09
Speaker 3: can't wait to talk to Brian. I can't wait to
2:15:11
Speaker 3: talk to Brian because I want to ask you, with
2:15:14
Speaker 3: your your your extensive law training background, is that an
2:15:18
Speaker 3: insult or is it a stupid thing to say? Or
2:15:22
Speaker 3: is that legally you know something that you know United
2:15:25
Speaker 3: can say just because you paid for a window seat
2:15:27
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you're entitled to a view.
2:15:29
Speaker 1: They'd only be entitled to say that if there was
2:15:30
Speaker 1: a disclaimer saying exactly what you just said. You know,
2:15:33
Speaker 1: because you ordered a window seat doesn't necessarily entitled you
2:15:35
Speaker 1: a window seat. And they can even give the explanation why.
2:15:39
Speaker 1: But if they say windows seat without any qualification or caveats,
2:15:43
Speaker 1: and they are false advertising if they put you in
2:15:45
Speaker 1: a seat without a window.
2:15:47
Speaker 3: And that's the that's the basis of the lawsuits. And
2:15:49
Speaker 3: I'm really hoping that the two airlines get dinged on
2:15:51
Speaker 3: it because to shrug it off and go, eh, you know,
2:15:55
Speaker 3: it's not really that big of an issue, not that
2:15:56
Speaker 3: big of a concern, not our problem. You know, you
2:15:59
Speaker 3: paid this sit in that seat, and if you don't
2:16:01
Speaker 3: happen to have a window seat, will so be it. Yeah,
2:16:03
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that look that they look
2:16:06
Speaker 3: out the window to relax as they fly. There's people
2:16:08
Speaker 3: that are a bit claustrophobic that need the windows so
2:16:11
Speaker 3: they can relax when they fly. A lot of different reasons.
2:16:14
Speaker 3: And when you take that away and just kind of
2:16:15
Speaker 3: dismiss the concerns, as Delta and United have done it
2:16:19
Speaker 3: in this matter, it's insulting and I look at that
2:16:22
Speaker 3: arrogance thing. It just it bothers me because here again
2:16:25
Speaker 3: is yet another example of how we're told passengers come first. Uh,
2:16:30
Speaker 3: they never do. It's the bottom the bottom line that
2:16:33
Speaker 3: comes first. It's not the employees. Sometimes it's not as
2:16:37
Speaker 3: safe as I would like kind of thing. It's but
2:16:38
Speaker 3: it happens to be an issue where they are doing
2:16:41
Speaker 3: what they have to do to kind of pad their
2:16:43
Speaker 3: bottom line. So you know, for me, it's it's it
2:16:46
Speaker 3: was just an insane statement for United to make great
2:16:49
Speaker 3: And I appreciate you letting me know because I did
2:16:51
Speaker 3: not think that that would stand. But we'll say, I
2:16:53
Speaker 3: guess what happens when they get to court.
2:16:55
Speaker 1: Yes, we will keep your bob going out on that one,
2:16:58
Speaker 1: Jay Rattlove And as we do, I think I got
2:17:00
Speaker 1: a little insight into air traffic generally this week. As
2:17:03
Speaker 1: you said, we've got things sort of resolved now. But
2:17:05
Speaker 1: as for travel today, how are things looking for my listeners.
2:17:10
Speaker 3: You know, weather's going to be concerned next week because
2:17:12
Speaker 3: we might have a couple of storms coming in. So
2:17:13
Speaker 3: make sure the airlines have a way to get a
2:17:15
Speaker 3: hold of you, and please get to the airport. Two
2:17:17
Speaker 3: hours before departure. But if you were flying today, Dallas
2:17:20
Speaker 3: and Los Angeles are going to be the two problem
2:17:22
Speaker 3: children of the day. Chicago maybe late in the day,
2:17:26
Speaker 3: but I really think the headaches are going to be
2:17:27
Speaker 3: Dallas in Los Angeles as we're going to be fighting
2:17:30
Speaker 3: a lot of rain, wind and some limited visibility.
2:17:33
Speaker 1: So glad you're back, Jay, right lift. You obviously had
2:17:36
Speaker 1: no struggles whatsoever doing the report on aviation today, and
2:17:39
Speaker 1: I'm so pleased to have you back. And I'll look
2:17:41
Speaker 1: forward to next Thursday as I always do. Eight thirty
2:17:43
Speaker 1: men will hit the ground running next week. Hope you
2:17:45
Speaker 1: and your better half have a fantastic weekend. Of course,
2:17:48
Speaker 1: in week between now.
2:17:49
Speaker 3: And then, as you are my friend, Thank you.
2:17:52
Speaker 1: Thanks brother eight fifty five. If you five carside talk station,
2:17:56
Speaker 1: you didn't get a chance to listen.