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INTERVIEW: Pusha T, Fam-Lay, & Antonia Dowe Talk Cousinz Festival 2026, Virginia Pride, Clipse Grammy Win, Upcoming Projects + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold up.
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  Speaker 2: Every day I wake up.
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  Speaker 3: Wake your ass up.
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  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are
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  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRose is here as well. We
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  Speaker 1: got some special guests in the building.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, indeed.
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  Speaker 1: We got my family, Pusha T.
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  Speaker 4: What's up?
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  Speaker 1: We got family and my guy, Antonio. Now, of course,
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  Speaker 1: they got the big festival that's happening this Saturday, Cousins Festival.
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  Speaker 1: They're here to talk about that and everything that went
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  Speaker 1: to put it on. And this is what, third year?
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  Speaker 2: Third year.
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  Speaker 3: Third year.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, first and foremost.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: How y'all feeling?
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  Speaker 3: Trying to sell it.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: In a nutshell, that's it.
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  Speaker 4: It's a tough economy right now.
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  Speaker 6: It is.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 5: Totally.
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  Speaker 1: I would say this though, in Virginia, there's so much
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  Speaker 1: going on. Every time I go to VA, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like there's something happening, right? But I don't think people
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  Speaker 1: know what it takes to put on these type of
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  Speaker 1: shows because the money's coming out of your pockets.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: The venue you're paying for is coming out of your pockets.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: The promo and the grind work is coming out of
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  Speaker 1: your pockets. So for people that don't know, why did
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  Speaker 1: you guys want to do it in Virginia? Why was
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  Speaker 1: it so important to do it in your hometown? Because
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  Speaker 1: you could have went to Atlanta. You could have went
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  Speaker 1: to D.C., DMV area. You could have did it in
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  Speaker 1: New York. Why was it so important to do it
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  Speaker 1: in VA?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I think that we've been in Virginia all
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  Speaker 7: our lives. So we've known the different eras and the
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  Speaker 7: great times that we've had there, we've all had there.
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  Speaker 7: We know that the people are there. We know that
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  Speaker 7: that energy is there. You know, just trying to reinvigorate
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  Speaker 7: it is basically what we were trying to do and
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  Speaker 7: also bring that sense of community. You know, I've never
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  Speaker 7: left Virginia, you know, and musically I feel like all
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  Speaker 7: the energy that comes from you know, from what we
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  Speaker 7: put out there.
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  Speaker 3: It comes from the area.
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  Speaker 7: So it was basically, it was just, for me, it
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  Speaker 7: was more so about just, you know, keeping that energy there.
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  Speaker 4: So success never meant getting out for you?
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  Speaker 2: Never, never.
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  Speaker 7: Never meant leaving. Never meant leaving. You know, we go,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we come here, we go wherever. But it
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  Speaker 7: was always go back home. I was always scared to leave.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, man, I thought my writing might change
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  Speaker 3: or something.
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  Speaker 4: This is a question for all three of y'all.
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  Speaker 8: When did home, Virginia, start becoming a place y'all felt
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  Speaker 8: responsible for?
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  Speaker 9: Wow.
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  Speaker 8: Representation is one thing, but feeling being responsible for it.
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  Speaker 10: I feel like once some of our goats, per se,
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  Speaker 10: got national attention, it felt like once we.
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  Speaker 5: Got a spotlight, Had to live up to that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we had to live up.
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  Speaker 10: So, you know, like you said, we was outside the
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  Speaker 10: entire time. We, Teddy, Missy, Pharrell, you know, Neptune, Clips, everybody.
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  Speaker 5: Timbaland. Timbaland, yeah.
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  Speaker 10: The whole gang is like, once we knew that we
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  Speaker 10: had the attention, like, I feel like we just felt
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  Speaker 10: the responsibility, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little different for me because they're
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  Speaker 2: on the music side. I tried to leave, like.
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  Speaker 4: I tried to get out of there.
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  Speaker 1: He's a quitter.
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  Speaker 2: He's a quitter.
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  Speaker 4: He's always been a quitter.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't like him now. I don't like him
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they got you over there.
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  Speaker 7: I don't want to sit next to you.
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  Speaker 2: Home was hard, man, for production, right? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when I started producing shows and being behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: like I was in a college circuit. And, like, things
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  Speaker 2: just kept changing. Like, it was hard to get artists approved.
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  Speaker 2: And I started running around doing, like, stuff on a
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  Speaker 2: more national scale, working for a couple different artists in
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  Speaker 2: a couple different situations. And I ended up hating it. Like,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't have any substance to it. And y'all know, like,
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  Speaker 2: once you fall out of love with something, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to get it back. And one person kind
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  Speaker 2: of ruined it. And I remember going home and telling fam,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, like, I'm going to figure something
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  Speaker 2: out at home. And that's when we started doing R &
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  Speaker 2: B Block Party.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And R & B Block Party spun into Cousins Festival
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  Speaker 2: after we did the residency with you last year. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was a lot different, you know, on
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  Speaker 2: the production end. But it's been so invigorating being home,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and being able to, like, jump into everything
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  Speaker 2: that we're doing with scholarships and giving back like cousins
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  Speaker 2: festival was super surface level next to you know all
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  Speaker 2: the stuff that we've really been able to do at
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  Speaker 2: home and plus all our families there man i got
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  Speaker 2: three kids like i don't need to be on the
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  Speaker 2: road if i don't got.
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  Speaker 5: To you know i actually moved.
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  Speaker 9: Back dragged you back you left.
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  Speaker 10: Where did you go i went to la and then
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  Speaker 10: i was in miami and it was hard to leave
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  Speaker 10: miami but again the opportunity to do the stuff that
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  Speaker 10: we was doing just made sense and home is always
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  Speaker 10: going to be home like pusha said um it's something
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  Speaker 10: there that when you leave, you do feel a loss
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  Speaker 10: of what we have.
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  Speaker 5: So to move back was good. I'm happy I moved back.
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  Speaker 9: Push, you said if you left, you felt like it
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  Speaker 9: would change your writing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: So being home actually fuels your pen.
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  Speaker 5: 1,000%.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, you know, I got a
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  Speaker 1: little jealous of when people talk about their cities, right?
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  Speaker 1: New York is such a big city. It's like, People
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  Speaker 1: don't necessarily care as much because they see people all
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  Speaker 1: the time, right? You could walk down the street and
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  Speaker 1: see an artist or somebody from that block. But when
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  Speaker 1: somebody like Charlamagne comes out of South Carolina, it's not
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  Speaker 1: as many. So they hold them up so much power.
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  Speaker 1: And when I go back to Virginia, I feel that
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  Speaker 1: for myself. That's why I like Virginia so much and
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  Speaker 1: I always talk about it. It's because... I was down
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  Speaker 1: there six, seven years.
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  Speaker 4: When I went to college.
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  Speaker 3: And be from Virginia, y'all.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, New York, New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Anytime I hear somebody, we don't even, we don't even
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  Speaker 3: remember you from there. He is connected in some way.
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  Speaker 9: I feel like that's.
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  Speaker 4: When he got black for real. Listen, man, it's all real.
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  Speaker 3: You know what? That's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: That's how he get introduced to.
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  Speaker 3: That's when your hairline.
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  Speaker 11: It got dark.
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  Speaker 4: He was Dominican in Queens.
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  Speaker 3: He was Dominican.
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  Speaker 1: He was Dominican. But what I was saying is, when
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  Speaker 1: you go down there, it's like the people support you, right?
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people, Virginia, to me, it's like a hug.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what restaurant you go to or what
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  Speaker 1: store you go shopping or any party, people come to
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  Speaker 1: give you hug and love. And I don't see that
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  Speaker 1: anywhere else. I see that a lot, but I see
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  Speaker 1: it more in Virginia than anything else. So now, getting
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  Speaker 1: people there, who are the artists y'all have performing this year?
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  Speaker 5: Well, this year, man... We got T.I.
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 10: Who's having a great year. We got Keisha Cole. We
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  Speaker 10: got The Dream.
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  Speaker 3: The Dream.
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  Speaker 4: They'll never pop out.
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  Speaker 2: They'll never come out.
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  Speaker 5: We got Plyce.
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  Speaker 10: That's inside. And, you know, we got Dominique the Diva hosting,
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  Speaker 10: Chico Bean.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 10: And also, we got DJs like Brian Michael Cox and Franz.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. He bringing some surprises with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the and Franz set is going to be crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. And T.I.
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  Speaker 11: Hasn't been in over, it's been like 10 years?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, T.I.
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  Speaker 3: In a minute.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he get loved there too.
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  Speaker 4: Why do y'all lean on the OG so much?
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  Speaker 8: Like, what is it about that era that we come
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  Speaker 8: from that you know you can count on?
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  Speaker 7: You know, the criteria for Cousins is having a discography.
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  Speaker 5: Got you.
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  Speaker 7: So, you know, because we wanted to feel like a
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  Speaker 7: sing-along the whole way through.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: You know, so that's, you know, you got to have
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  Speaker 7: a discography to be at the Cousins Festival.
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  Speaker 4: Be honest.
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  Speaker 2: We call it catalog artists. Yeah. We don't even look
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  Speaker 2: at it if it doesn't. match that and if you
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  Speaker 2: look at like the last couple years we've nailed that
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  Speaker 2: every year like we came out the gate with erica
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  Speaker 2: badu you know last year gz t-pain little kim.
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  Speaker 6: It was crazy because you had that lady standing on
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  Speaker 6: the chair she had my wife standing on the chair
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  Speaker 6: like she just wanted.
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  Speaker 1: To have fun yo.
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  Speaker 2: You embraced it i'm trying to make sure she don't.
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  Speaker 1: Your wife was so drunk. They were both drunk together.
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  Speaker 3: She was hot, dummy. Shut up.
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  Speaker 9: She gave me an edible.
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  Speaker 1: I was staring at Lil' Kim like this.
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  Speaker 4: She was like, Lil' Kim, move, Envy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, my bad. Envy was still this. Sitting,
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  Speaker 1: looking dumb. Everybody was gone.
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  Speaker 9: I'm like, damn, let me get my brother.
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  Speaker 2: It was amazing, man. T-Pain stole the show. But to
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  Speaker 2: not get off what you guys are saying, man, it's
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  Speaker 2: been about catalog artists. But on my end of it,
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  Speaker 2: on the production side of it, man, it's been about
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  Speaker 2: having artists that make it easier to sell a ticket.
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  Speaker 2: People know what they're getting performance-wise when you bring these
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  Speaker 2: artists that have been performing 10, 15 years. And it's generational. Like, again,
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  Speaker 2: Cousins Festival came from R & B Block Party, which
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  Speaker 2: was all about, you know, being able to have the
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  Speaker 2: mother and the daughter, even the grandmother, in certain age demographics,
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  Speaker 2: be able to come to something together. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've tried to stick to that.
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  Speaker 4: And I love the.
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  Speaker 9: My bad. Even the vendors that y'all have, like, all
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  Speaker 9: the food trucks and all this. Man, and it felt good,
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  Speaker 9: even how y'all have the DJ set set up, like,
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  Speaker 9: outdoors before everything goes indoor. Like, you had a DJ
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  Speaker 9: for each... generation. I seen three and four generations of
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  Speaker 9: families out there dancing and getting lit. It's a vibe.
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  Speaker 3: It's really a vibe.
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  Speaker 9: I seen people playing spades, uno, like y'all, because y'all
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  Speaker 9: had like the Hennessy booth. Yeah, they had like a
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  Speaker 9: whole Hennessy installation where you get, they got like three
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  Speaker 9: or four different drinks you can choose from and then.
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  Speaker 4: You got It was Domino's.
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  Speaker 2: It was a Spades table.
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  Speaker 1: It was Uno.
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  Speaker 2: It was arcade games out there.
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  Speaker 9: Big ass family reunion.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect. Y'all do financial education too, right? And like health conversations,
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  Speaker 4: somebody told me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the day before, we got Cousins Con.
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  Speaker 4: Cousins Con, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a few conversations from financial literacy to education.
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  Speaker 5: Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Seesha Moon is coming. Cousins Con is in its second year.
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  Speaker 2: It's really important for us. We got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: community stuff that we try to do. The educational piece
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  Speaker 2: is the day before. It's Friday from 2 to 7
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  Speaker 2: at the Addicts Theater.
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  Speaker 8: Was there a moment where y'all realized entertainment's not enough
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  Speaker 8: for the weekend?
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  Speaker 5: From the beginning.
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  Speaker 10: When we decided to do this, we were very serious
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  Speaker 10: about engaging the community So Cousins Con is one of
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  Speaker 10: those things. I got a scholarship fund. It's the third
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  Speaker 10: year that I've been doing it called Hold the Door,
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  Speaker 10: where we give scholarships to HBCUs. And that's been going great. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: so it's the third year to do that. So to
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  Speaker 10: your question, yeah, it ain't just about who on stage
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  Speaker 10: for us. We really want to— this is our community, too,
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  Speaker 10: so we live it. So we definitely want to make
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  Speaker 10: sure we do right by that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not going to— I know we're talking about
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  Speaker 8: the Cousins Festival push, but I'ma tell you something. I'm
• 10:48
  Speaker 8: still upset y'all ain't winning Rap Album of the Year.
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  Speaker 4: That pissed me the fuck off. I love Kendrick, but
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  Speaker 4: there's no way he shouldn't have won Rap Album of
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  Speaker 4: the Year.
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  Speaker 5: We were all hyped about that.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be back.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: Now I was going to ask, before we get into
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  Speaker 1: the music conversation.
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  Speaker 4: How did that make you feel, though.
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  Speaker 2: That night?
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  Speaker 3: Which one?
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: That night.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man. You know, I wanted them all.
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  Speaker 4: I did.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, to be honest. But, you know, we came
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  Speaker 3: home with one, man. And it is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Ain't no biggie.
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  Speaker 4: Was it a lot of politicking that went into that, though?
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  Speaker 4: Like the campaign of the.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, man, you kissed so much ass the whole year.
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  Speaker 4: You go everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: You go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 7: wherever the academy wants you to be.
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  Speaker 11: At y'all were everywhere from grinding to all the new stuff.
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  Speaker 7: Y'all were everywhere you got to you have to campaign
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  Speaker 7: for the award but.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to ask with that being said how
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  Speaker 1: come Clips hasn't done Cousins Festival and is there a
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  Speaker 1: plan to do Cousins Festival because last year and this
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  Speaker 1: year is the year don't answer that.
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  Speaker 7: You know um Man, it just never fell in cycle.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it never fell in cycle. And, you know, I think, man, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think we home. But we home. Like, they see us
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  Speaker 4: all the time.
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  Speaker 1: The last year was the year. There's so much going on.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought last year and this year was
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  Speaker 1: the year.
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  Speaker 4: But we did.
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  Speaker 7: We've done four shows at home this year.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, you're at the dome, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, we did anniversary shows. We
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  Speaker 3: did everything this year.
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  Speaker 5: It was home a lot.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, recently on your IG, I seen you said that
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  Speaker 1: tour is over, back to making music.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So have y'all started yet? Is it your album? Is
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: it Clip's album?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: All of the above?
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  Speaker 4: All, everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, everything.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean? So you coming to Amazon?
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  Speaker 4: It's everything.
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  Speaker 3: We working on everything.
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  Speaker 4: Everything, right now.
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  Speaker 5: It's sounding crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. How much is done and when are we
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: getting it?
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: One project is done already. We working on another one.
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  Speaker 5: For real?
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  Speaker 1: Again?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Only.
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  Speaker 4: Only.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, he said everything. Everything, yo.
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  Speaker 9: They doing everything.
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  Speaker 4: I bet you it's a Malice solo album. Bet you
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: we get a Malice.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. You know, you might get one
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  Speaker 3: of those, though.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: I heard Malice on Raps, he killed it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: During the car show weekend, I FaceTimed Malice. He was
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: in the studio. So I was assuming Malice is working.
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  Speaker 3: He's definitely working.
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  Speaker 1: You get to it?
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  Speaker 4: Definitely.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: How's it feel to have your brother back on your
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: side and touring and being back there?
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  Speaker 7: It's so good, man. I mean, we toured this whole year. Like,
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  Speaker 7: we literally did not stop. We just came.
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  Speaker 3: We flew in from From Portugal to here.
• 13:32
  Speaker 7: Man, it was just so good to be out there
• 13:34
  Speaker 7: and just knocking out them shows every night for night.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: You know, it was incredible.
• 13:41
  Speaker 7: I mean, just to watch him be so, like, happy
• 13:44
  Speaker 7: on stage is crazy for me. You know, I mean,
• 13:47
  Speaker 7: I'd be having a ball on stage watching him.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he still looks so surprised. It was funny. He
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: came to the car show this year.
• 13:53
  Speaker 11: Mm-hmm.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: The amount of love he got. He just looked shocked.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Because it was like, you know, he just came to
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: show love and look at the cars. But the line
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: that just started happening of people wanting to take pictures
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: with him. You could just see his eyes. He just
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: took it all in. He just looked grateful. I'm like,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: you should be used to this. But he just took
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: it all in.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: We got in the car the other day. And he
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: was like, yo, man, it was a lot of young
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: people out.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: In this audience.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: It was like, you know... I think we were probably
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: in Portugal and leaving.
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: He was like, yo, man, I just seen so many
• 14:24
  Speaker 7: young people singing stuff that I didn't think they were
• 14:26
  Speaker 7: supposed to be singing.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: And I was like, bro, people follow you, man. People
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: like you, my man.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Love y'all.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: They rocking with you.
• 14:34
  Speaker 8: Y'all different, though, because y'all achieved something that most artists don't.
• 14:37
  Speaker 8: Y'all got longevity without having to pretend you're young or
• 14:40
  Speaker 8: chasing trends. What do you think you understood about, I guess,
• 14:45
  Speaker 8: aging that hip-hop historically got wrong?
• 14:48
  Speaker 7: I think you just have to find your way to
• 14:50
  Speaker 7: compete without compromising. Competing without compromising, I think that's what
• 14:58
  Speaker 7: we do. We hone in and we master what it
• 15:02
  Speaker 7: is lyrically and musically that we think can compete with
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: the times as well.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Do what they can't do. And we can't do what
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: y'all do either.
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But you don't want to.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to.
• 15:16
  Speaker 7: But, you know, it's just about just mastering your craft
• 15:19
  Speaker 7: and being able to, you know, sit them side by
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: side and let people A and B it.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Like, okay, I like this, so I like that.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Is there something.
• 15:26
  Speaker 8: Freeing about, like, realizing you don't need everybody anymore? Like,
• 15:29
  Speaker 8: you only need the people who understand what you do.
• 15:31
  Speaker 8: You got mouths, you got family with you, you know
• 15:32
  Speaker 8: what I'm saying?
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: Like, man, that's the only way I want to work.
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: That's the only way I want to work. I've been saying, man,
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: I don't want to work with anybody, like, at all.
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: I don't want to work with any other producers. I'm cool.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: Like, I just want to, you know, treat this like gangsta,
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: you know, and push each other and, you know, try
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: to unlock new codes, but with each other.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I was watching Pharrell interview you guys, and he was
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: talking about the song you made about your parents. And
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: he was saying, and I didn't know that y'all weren't
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: in the studio together doing it.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: So how did that song, whose idea was for the
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: song and how did that come about? Because I just
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: thought y'all were there together and y'all was like, yo,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: let's do this. But it didn't happen like that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: Well, Pharrell called me one night and was like, yo,
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: you know that you're going to have to write this song.
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: And this was about my mom. He was like, yo,
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: you're going to have to write this song. Like, I
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: ain't pressing you right now, but you know this is
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: a song. Like, you have to do it. But my
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: dad passed four months later and he was like, hey,
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: you know, you, you about to do this. And, um,
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: it was, um, I mean, so he, you know, he
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: was very, very, very adamant about it. And he was like, man,
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: birds don't sing.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I already got the title. Birds don't sing, you know?
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: And, you know, from there it was just getting it done.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: How hard was that?
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: It was terrible. It's terrible.
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: Like, I mean, like, yo, we like, crying in the
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: studio like I mean I'm talking.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: About people people.
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: Mind you we're recording this in Paris in the actual
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: headquarters the atelier where they're sewing or whatever I'm talking
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: about people at the sewing machines crying you know what
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: I'm saying some days it's like yo I ain't doing
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: no more today you know it was it was rough
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: it was rough.
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: Whose idea was it John John Legend whose idea was
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: it to have him.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: John Legend Um, I want to say, man, it was
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: either my man Free or my manager Kevin.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I forget.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: But, um.
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: Because that voice will make you cry even harder.
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: Even with y'all lyrics.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he nailed it, man. He just nailed it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 11: How's it been, um, you know, dealing with the grief
• 17:59
  Speaker 11: of everything you and Malice been Okay, because you have
• 18:01
  Speaker 11: all these highs happening at the same time.
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Like, Grammys, and then I know you.
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: Welcomed your new baby.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:07
  Speaker 11: And you're all together, but, like, there's so much that
• 18:09
  Speaker 11: y'all are dealing with at the same time, personally, too.
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, man, I attribute everything to my parents,
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: everything that's happening.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Just everything.
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: I'm like, man, you know, y'all up there looking out,
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: y'all telling homeboy up there, like, you know, to look
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: out for your boys, honestly. It's... You know, it's tough.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: It's tough, but, you know, we working through it. We
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: working through it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: Does being in Virginia make it harder or easier to grieve?
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: Being in Virginia, I think, I think it makes it harder.
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: I think it makes it harder. Like, man, I mean,
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: you know, The other day, my homeboy just called me.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: He was like, hey, man, Camp Estella Reunion. They got
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: your mom on the back of the T-shirt. My mom's
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: from this area or whatever. And I'm just like, man,
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: you know, we're just there.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Like, everybody's there.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Our whole everything is there.
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: People are always speaking to, you know, just us and
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: my family and everybody being around. So it's inescapable, man.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: We've been a staple in that area for so long.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Question for all of y'all.
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: What does Virginia understand about you that the rest of
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: the world never fully will?
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Virginia knows that we're never giving up. We're never giving up.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: We never compromise and we never giving up. They understand
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: the fact that we're fighting with a whole nother level
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: of intensity.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: They get that about us. You know what I'm saying?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: They know that it's.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: That there's an underdog thing that we sit with in Virginia.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: And we just not letting it go.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: I think we got a sense of fight or flight
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: that's you know, innate in us. And I feel like
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: every time they see us, they understand that what we're
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: going to do is represent home.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Every time.
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's like there's no other choice. You know
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: what I mean? So that's how I feel like it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. People know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: you know, what we are, but I also think, you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Virginia really appreciates, like, the level of accessibility that they
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: have to all three of us and, each different realm.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Like, you don't see him walking around high and mighty
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: with a security guard around him at home. You don't
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: see him not answering the phone. Like, same thing, you know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: for me, I get all kind of calls. People always
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: need help. You try to help as much as you can,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: but when people know you're accessible, they at least try.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: And that's been a big thing for all of us,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: I feel like when you come from markets like Virginia,
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: like even me being from South Carolina, you're forced to
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: develop imagination different.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think that's what has made all of
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: us successful. Like everybody, I feel like the sounds that
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: have come out of Virginia come from imagination.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: I feel like.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: The stories and the lyrics and everything, it just comes
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: from a time. It comes from a real time and
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: a real place. But You know, we got to throw
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: 10 on it, too. You know what I'm saying? And
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: just make it beautiful and make it, you know, make
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: it accessible sometimes. But it's really the area that spawns
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: and sparks all of that creativity.
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: No, you do.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Because, like, imagine having... Like the level of talent that
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: we have. You think about like the sports figures, right?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: We got all these major sports figures, but we don't
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: have a major sports team. So like, and then when
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: it comes to like staples, right? Like we don't have
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: a Madison Square Garden. So as a kid, like you
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: couldn't walk down the street and go see your favorite
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: artist at a staple venue or your favorite. You're never
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: going to see Allen Iverson play basketball at home, right?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: So- We go to high school and watch him.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, our high school games, Norfolk State football games, like
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: HBCU band is like probably one of the biggest celebrities
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: in 757, right? Like, so dreaming different. You absolutely have
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: to because, you know, it's not necessarily in your face.
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: That's why I love that y'all do the Cousins Festival.
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: Y'all actually bring celebrities with catalogs there that everybody love,
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: everybody know they shit. You know what I mean? The
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: sense of community that you feel when you go, it's like, damn,
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: I don't want to leave.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It's fire.
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: Now, y'all pay for all this shit. out of y'all pockets.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? That's crazy.
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: Y'all don't partner with the city? Y'all don't get funding
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: from the city?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: We do, man. The city of Norfolk has been a
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: partner all three years. And just like any other festival
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: or event, you try to find sponsors and corporate partners.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So if y'all know any and shit.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: That don't mean ask us for free tickets, though. That
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: don't mean that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Because we are paying.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: He hates that so.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Bad, man.
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: Because everybody asks for free tickets. I'll get you home.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: So they're like, yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: What?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: What?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: We sat down at dinner last night. And 90% of
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: the conversation at dinner last night was like, who asking
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you for tickets? Who asking tickets and sharing, showing text messages? Like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: can you believe that?
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: We got a bet, actually.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: We do have a bet. That's funny. What's the bet?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Who's going to give away the most tickets?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Antonio.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Who's side are you on?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: You know what it is? Push him. It's family. It's family.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I lost last year. You're more reachable, right?
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Nobody's going to call push, right?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Nobody called him.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Antonio's going to pull up.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: They're going to come to you first.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy?
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: No, he the worst.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I'm the worst one out.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Of all of them.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. He is. He cold.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: He cold.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: He cold.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: He cold.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: He got a warm heart, man.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: That's who you need to catch, man.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: I'm home, man.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: So, fam, you know, you've been an artist.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: You've been a manager.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: I've been, man. I've been around.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: What do you like the best, right? Being an artist,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: your own career. Being a manager, you got to guide
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: somebody else's career, but then you can have an artist
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: that don't listen. And you know how artists are. None
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: of them listen.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: None of them listen. None of them listen.
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: Um, it's crazy because being an artist and then a
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: manager is like two polar opposites. Like as an artist,
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: you got a manager who manages you and tell you,
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: you got to be downstairs at eight o'clock. Then you
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: got to turn into the person who calling, telling that
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: person that they got to be down at eight o'clock.
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: So that was totally different. Like a whole mindfuck. But, um,
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: I like where I am now, man. I like where
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: I'm at now. I got my partners doing it, being
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: a creative and being able to do events at home, man.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: I rock with this, man.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Now, you were one of the people that we first, well,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I first heard Bia from you.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Right? When you used to manage Bia. Do you miss
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that part of it, developing and making a sound and
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that part of it?
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Bia, too.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Bia.
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: That was fun, discovering somebody and then being able to
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: usher them in and just... kind of like share my
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: experiences with her and just watch her grow.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: That was, I loved that. I wouldn't trade that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: But the business side of the industry, I just, you know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: that's what kind of like pushed me out of it too. So,
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: you know, see that part, get into it again. I
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: was just like, nah, I can't do this. But I
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: wouldn't trade it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't trade it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: Success never complicated your relationship with Virginia?
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Like never?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Um, we had to beat a couple of people up.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, not really.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: No.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: And I mean, you know, like, honestly, man, like we, we,
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: we've all been friends 30 plus, 30 plus years. Like
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: we all were, we all were not, you know, we started,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: you know, from nothing. Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: Together at it, trying to, trying to get in the industry. Um,
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: You know, and just having that friendship. I mean, we've
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: lost together. We won together.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: We, you know, we got beat up together.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Hey, look, I want to ask you.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: We ain't got to tell.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I got a question I want to ask you. All right,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: we ain't going to do it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: No, please do it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: We be having some thug stories where he had to
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: pull out the blinky.
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: Let me say, listen, we fought the entire football team
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: and the Was it the Q-Dolls at the time?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: One sorority.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of people.
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: Listen, it was like 40 of us and we thought
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: we were deep and it was like, 40,000 of them.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: And we just got beat up. But Envy.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: All we had was his DJ booth and a table
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: to shield us.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Do you remember us throwing your records?
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Yes. Damn. They were hooking us up so bad. We
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: had to put the table to block them from beating
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: us up. We had to throw records at them. They
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: were whooping ass.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Also, Envy was like, hide here.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Hide here.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: Hide here.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Hide here. Hide here.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: Hide here. You know how you gotta be losing to
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: throw a record?
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: To lose to throw a record, you really gotta be losing.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I started throwing bottles. We was throwing records.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: What was he doing? He was in the mix.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: He had a dude with him.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: To this day, I don't know who did.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: He had Batman with him.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he did.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Who was that, Envy, man? Whoever that is, man.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: This little dude with your ass?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Got busy.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: He was getting busy. He got busy. Your man got busy.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Your man got busy. So listen.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: So we got history, man.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: This year.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: But Envy, you from Virginia, man.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: For most people who don't know, I was an introvert
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: going to college. So I didn't speak to anybody. But
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: when I met them... we used to go out all
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the time. So I probably have more local friends in
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Virginia than I actually have college friends.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: It was always around them. I never went to the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: college events and if I did, I always snuck them
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: on campus and we just partied. But that's what the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: relationship was.
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: That's crazy because then at that time, y'all were just
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: like living life, just figuring things out.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: It wasn't about the money.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Nah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: It's like full circle moment whenever y'all are sitting like this.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: But like Push said, it's a 30 plus year relationship
• 28:40
  Speaker 10: so friendship so you know we done seen ups and
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: downs i remember you know times of deaths yeah we
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: didn't see losses yeah and um we just you know
• 28:52
  Speaker 10: always stays connected all of us like we speak at
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: least once or twice a week going when we go
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: home we're gonna go to the taco spot that we
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: love when he won a grammy i'm gonna call him
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: we're gonna go to the taco spot and celebrate like
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: you know that's just what we you know what we.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: Do so Always rooted in home.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, 100%.
• 29:11
  Speaker 11: A lot of people who are as successful as you
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: guys are don't always get to keep that peace of mind.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Like, they have to fight for it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: Like, they get back to it eventually because you get
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: to a certain point. I think we hear stories of
• 29:21
  Speaker 11: people realizing they need it, so they might leave L.A.
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: or whatever because they need to get back to that.
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: True.
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: It seems like you've consistently had it, Pusha, with, like,
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: keeping your family around you.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, I don't... I don't know.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: I think being from there, like, and and not seeing, um,
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: you know, stardom at, at every turn, you know, it
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: was a thing by the time we got to high school,
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: you know, that was the, that was the big thing.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Teddy, Teddy came to, uh, yeah. Teddy came to Virginia beach.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: It was like, Oh man, it's a Ferrari on the Boulevard.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Like, what is this?
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: Michael Jackson may be up the street, you know, whatever. But, um,
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: It was a time that we really honed in on
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: and was like, okay, now that we want to do
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: this music thing, we.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Know it at least is accessible.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: But it still never was like New York or L.A.
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: in regard to being able to see all of that
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: stardom at every turn.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's been so difficult for somebody to come
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: after you guys.
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: Man, you got to, you have to, you have to,
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, the way I look at it, the way
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: I look at it, you know, I think it had
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: a lot, it has a lot to do with being
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: competitive and knowing what you're competing against. You know, at
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: that time, like I said, you saw all of these figures,
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: you saw all of these people. And then, you know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: we was like, damn, we wanted to be on MV mixtapes.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: We wanted to be on all the tapes and everything. And,
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: you know, we knew that we had to compete with that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: I think nowadays that get up and go and that
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: leave and come to New York and see what it's
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: about and whether you're going to D.C. or whatever, I
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: don't think that the kids where we are are doing
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: that as much. And they, you know, because they have
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: a new foundation with like social, you know, socials and
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: things like that. You know, and they, you know, they're
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: trying to do it like everybody else is. Like just right,
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: you know, off the phone. You know, I don't know
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: how to do it that way. So I don't know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: you know, I don't know if that's working or not.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: But how we did it was really got out here
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: and competed.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: With everybody.
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: Also, Virginia's on some hip-hop outliers shit. Have you ever
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: read Malcolm Gladwell's book, Outliers?
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: It's something about timing. It's something about ancestry.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: That's a scary book, man.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Cultural legacy. Y'all came up in a different time. Different opportunity.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: That's a different class of everything. Athlete, artist. True.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Producers, yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think you can recreate that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: And then everybody is different. Everybody got their own sound
• 32:21
  Speaker 9: from Virginia. You don't hear nothing... That you hear in Virginia,
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: nowhere else, you know, we see different sounds. Clips, different sounds. Timberland. Like,
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: nobody can make what they make, and it feels good
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: and sounds good. It's like, oh, damn, this shit.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: What's crazy, they can't even mimic what they do. Timberland
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: ain't never sounded like Pharrell.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Teddy ain't never sound like.
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: They don't sound the same.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: They don't even sound alike. That's true.
• 32:48
  Speaker 11: Do you think it's because you guys are more open
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: to people coming in and helping you? Like, okay, like,
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: Teddy Riley comes... He's coming back to Virginia, but he's
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: bringing all these people in. Whereas, like, some states or cities, like...
• 32:58
  Speaker 11: they want to work with, like, in New York, a
• 33:00
  Speaker 11: lot of people came up through Puff, so there was
• 33:02
  Speaker 11: a sound. Like, you know, in Philly, because even with Grinding,
• 33:07
  Speaker 11: Breaking in Philly, I couldn't, like, now that I know
• 33:10
  Speaker 11: the story, I'm like, oh, shoot. But, like, for me,
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: I know Meat because Meat came through the Cosmic Caves
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: and Producers in Philly and Battle Rap there, but y'all
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: let people come in and y'all collaborate.
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: I think that was just the history of Virginia at
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: the time, too. You got to think, that New York
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: to Virginia pipeline... Whether it was, you.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Know, whether it be from drug culture, everything.
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: Everything that was happening at that particular time was just like,
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: this is the culmination of... If you just go on
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: IG and look at those old, you know, those old
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: memory posts or.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Whatever, everybody's in Virginia.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Everybody. But that's where we used to go.
• 33:49
  Speaker 11: And we know everybody from Virginia.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Fourth of July, we would go to Virginia.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Memorial Day, we'd go to Virginia.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: It wasn't Miami.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And this is from mid-' 80s.
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: So it's like, I just feel like, like you said,
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: it was a time, an era, a whole thing that
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: made all of this.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Masterpiece.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I know y'all got to go, but I got a question.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: They got to go?
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Where y'all going?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: No, they got a flight to catch.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: You know, when I start hearing these stories of all
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: these rappers hustling in Virginia, right? Whether it was Hov
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: or 50 Cent. Do y'all remember seeing any of these
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: rappers down there? Even if it was just passing through?
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I remember seeing Mr. Cheeks and all of them.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I remember Wu-Tang.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: See, we see all of them.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: What?
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I ain't saying they hustling.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, they there.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Spliff used to be in... Oh, wow.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Spliff, too.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Like, all the hoods. Like, I remember him back in
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: the day.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: They almost killed Spliff.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: They almost killed Spliff.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Spliff told a story that he got shot and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: ran into somebody's crib.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: I remember that. I remember that. And I get real
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: down there. But I remember, you know, people coming out.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: All them guys were there, man.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Everybody. A lot of people were there.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying everybody's telling the truth, but.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: A lot of them were.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: A lot of them were.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Where'd you get your taste from, Pusha? Like... Me.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Me.
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: Oh, man.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Just tutorials, man. I would say that Pharrell was a
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: big influence.
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: He took a lot of fashion risks that I was like, man,
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: you know, my friends.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Would like joke him. And I'm like, man, how can
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I translate this so that they won't joke me?
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: And, you know, he take all the risks. I try
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: to translate it. Back to my boys. And just the
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: teachings and the tutorials of that and the travels. I
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: feel like that's... all of it came together.
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: Real quick, Virginia, y'all, do y'all listen to Masego? Do
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: you ever listen to Masego?
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: I know y'all don't work with nobody or whatever, right?
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: But I can literally see y'all doing a joint with him.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, that's different. Like he, I mean, I'd
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: be open to that for sure.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know he from 757.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he from V.A.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he from V.A.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: He just did a show there like last weekend.
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: I know he's on a tour and I'm like, yo,
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: I can so hear him on a track with Shumail.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you know what? That would be fun.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: That would be fun. Super talented.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: I saw him last week at Radio City. Like, oh
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: my God.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Sold out. Sold out Radio City.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Shout out Miss Sango.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: I'm like, why is Black Radio not playing this man
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: every hour on the hour?
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: And here's another one from Virginia. You don't hear nobody
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: like him out here doing it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: It's just different.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Dude play like five instruments.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Everything. He did that shit on stage. Saxophone, keyboard. He
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: was doing the beat machine.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: The organ, the flute, the clarinet, everything.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: He plays everything.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: He's crazy.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Well, they got to go catch a flight.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: What do y'all still owe home? What do we what?
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: What do y'all still owe home?
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: I think we just owe him our honesty and just
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: continue to collaborate with.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Community and access.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Access.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Access.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Anything we got to give, they can have it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: Ain't you my cousin?
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: Thank you. For sure. Everybody up here don't ever believe it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: I don't believe it.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Only you.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I don't believe you. Thank you. Are you coming this
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: weekend to your cousin's festival?
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: Your little cousin, my daughter, her birthday party is this weekend,
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: so I can't.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 37:29
  Speaker 11: I tried to tell them who that little cousin is.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they would be like, who, who? Because we family.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I wasn't even going to ask.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: I was just going to rock with you.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: You need to buy dope from Chris's.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Uncle back there.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Here we go. Here we go. Cousin's festival.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: This weekend. Get your tickets. If you ever got your tickets,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: how do you get tickets?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Cousinsfestival.com, man. Everything that you need to know is on
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: the website. Stay with us on Instagram because a lot
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: of stuff goes up on social media quicker than it
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: goes up on the website. But cousinsfestival.com or go and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: push your page because I'll be forcing him to post everything.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: That's right. So get your tickets if you haven't got
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: your tickets. And it's a whole day event. So don't
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: think you're coming there at night. We start at what time?
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: 12 o'clock, 1 o'clock?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Doors are at 1.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Doors are at 1. Music is playing at 1. Get there.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Get food. There's going to be games. And if you
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: haven't got VIP sold out?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: VIP is sold out. But Envy said he got VIP tickets.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I ain't got no VIP tickets. The VIP tickets are
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the best because they're right on the side. You get
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: your drinks. You get food and all that. But if
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: it's sold out, sorry for you. But get your tickets
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: if you haven't got it. It's a fun event. It's
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: a whole day of DJs, performances. And we can't wait
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: to see you guys this year.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys. Push the T. Fam, Antonio.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: You got a birthday coming up, right?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Damn. That's right.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: How old you going to be, Envy?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: 49.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: 49.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: That's right. Wow. I thought we was doing a birthday party.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I thought you set up a birthday party.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Y'all old as hell.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Y'all old as hell. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.