Latest / The Articulate Fly / S6, Ep 88: Tarpon Town Magic: Fishing, Friends and Firsts
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- 0:03Marvin: Hey folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly,
- 0:06Marvin: and we're back with an exotic on the salt with Captain David Blinken and special
- 0:10Marvin: guest Steve Ramirez. David, how are you?
- 0:13David: I'm great. We're down here in Piche, Mexico at Tarpon Town, and I'm here with
- 0:21David: Steve and got to watch him experience his first tarpon yesterday on the fly.
- 0:27Marvin: Yeah, that's pretty fantastic. I saw the picture on Instagram,
- 0:30Marvin: Steve, of you kissing the fish before you let it go back.
- 0:34Steve: Well, you know, I always thank them. But here at Tarpontown,
- 0:37Steve: they wanted me to kiss it too. So I was happy to oblige.
- 0:41Marvin: A little bit of extra love. So, David, talk a little bit about the kind of for
- 0:45Marvin: folks that haven't been following this kind of, you know, what to expect when
- 0:48Marvin: you come to Tarpontown and what you've seen today in terms of conditions and
- 0:51Marvin: what you expect kind of for the rest of your time down there.
- 0:54David: Well, in terms of conditions, it's perfect tarpon weather.
- 0:58David: It's hot, it's humid, low wind in the morning with a little wind picking up in the afternoon.
- 1:04David: We have a high falling tide all day.
- 1:09David: And we've got a lot of fish cruising as they do in the summer.
- 1:14Marvin: That's pretty neat. And have you had to pour cold water on anybody to get them
- 1:17Marvin: out of bed first thing in the morning before the sun comes up?
- 1:20David: No, but we've had to pour cold water on ourselves while we're out fishing.
- 1:25Marvin: Fair enough. And, you know, Steve, it's interesting before we started recording,
- 1:28Marvin: you know, you know, we've been lucky enough to do a couple of interviews together.
- 1:32Marvin: And, you know, I know for you, you travel to these destinations and you fish
- 1:36Marvin: with fishing friends and miraculously these things become chapters and books or essays.
- 1:41Marvin: And so I thought it'd be interesting for folks to kind of understand,
- 1:43Marvin: you know, what it is for lack of a better word, when you're on assignment,
- 1:46Marvin: you know, are you taking notes? Do you write at night before you go to bed?
- 1:50Marvin: Do you just wait until you get home? But I thought we could give folks a little
- 1:52Marvin: bit of an insight into that.
- 1:53Steve: Sure that's great so i
- 1:56Steve: actually uh everywhere i travel i carry these
- 1:59Steve: little waterproof notebooks um and when i buy them at rei one of the guys actually
- 2:06Steve: asked me do you actually write into rain and i said yeah i actually do all the
- 2:09Steve: time so uh so i do take notes not always when i'm right there doing it but sometimes
- 2:16Steve: i'll just sit on a rock and start writing.
- 2:18Steve: And I also take a lot of photographs that I'm not going to keep,
- 2:22Steve: you know, photo of flowers or growing out of a log or whatever.
- 2:26Steve: Something strikes me, the clouds, to remind me.
- 2:31Steve: So I take my notes and actually just before we got on here, I was taking notes
- 2:35Steve: about my day today, which was a solo with Roberto. And.
- 2:42Steve: Saw we're seeing easily i saw 100 tarpon each day easily probably more and getting
- 2:50Steve: a lot of calf and bringing some to the boat so that's pretty good uh so i'll take those notes,
- 2:59Steve: but then the other thing i do is very organic so
- 3:02Steve: i'm writing a fifth book which is the start of a new
- 3:04Steve: series for lions press this will be part of it it's
- 3:08Steve: also going to show up in a different formatted fly fisherman magazine
- 3:11Steve: but the way i write i'm able to kind of place myself back where i was and relive
- 3:17Steve: it and i never know what a chapter is going to be until i start creating it
- 3:23Steve: it's almost like it's being funneled through me as silly as that may sound it just flows,
- 3:29Steve: and to this i'm out on the water today and i was thinking hmm what would this
- 3:35Steve: one be like Like, I was trying to decide whether I was going to name it in Spanish or English.
- 3:40Steve: So I'll get thoughts, and I'll write down things that have nothing to do with
- 3:45Steve: fishing, as you know, Marvin.
- 3:47Steve: Like seeing yellow butterflies going across the ocean.
- 3:50Steve: It makes me think of something. Or hearing parrots and then seeing them in the trees.
- 3:56Steve: I know people have told me when they read my writing that they love that,
- 4:00Steve: that they feel like they're there.
- 4:02Steve: And that's how I do it. But I actually go, I'm able to go back there in my mind
- 4:06Steve: and write it with as much passion and depth and description as I can.
- 4:11David: I can tell you this. Last night at dinner, Steve was reliving a lot of yesterday.
- 4:19David: Watching the fish for the first time, seeing them in the air.
- 4:23David: I think if it wasn't a night, it would have been, it would have been a nightmare
- 4:27David: had Steve not landed one.
- 4:31Steve: Yes, quite a challenge.
- 4:33Marvin: And so, Steve, it's interesting. So, you know, I know obviously you don't travel every single day.
- 4:38Marvin: So do you generally, you know, have a really good rough draft of that chapter
- 4:44Marvin: from that experience before you go to the next one? Or do you sometimes have to?
- 4:47Steve: No, I haven't. I know exactly. Well, I know roughly how the book will lay out
- 4:52Steve: because I've created it in my mind.
- 4:55Steve: And so I know the places I'm trying to go to because I know what the book needs to say.
- 5:01Steve: I mean, it is a lot of fishing stories that are interesting.
- 5:04Steve: So this one's going to have Portugal and Mexico and maybe something in Central
- 5:09Steve: America and definitely the Amazon and then end up in Patagonia.
- 5:16Steve: I know what I'm trying to say, but I don't know what's going to happen until I arrive at a place.
- 5:22Marvin: Got it. So, you know, the general arc is you're going.
- 5:25Marvin: And so, David, you know, you and I have talked and I've met Raul with you in Edison.
- 5:29Marvin: You want to let folks know. I know you regularly visit Raul multiple times a year.
- 5:33Marvin: You want to tell them a little bit about kind of how the fishing varies over
- 5:37Marvin: the seasons and kind of what people can expect if they come with you or if they
- 5:40Marvin: come on their own to Tarpontown?
- 5:43David: Absolutely. And in fact, there's two distinct seasons.
- 5:49David: There's the spring, summer, early fall, where you can get lots of fish numbers.
- 5:55David: Numbers but November through April you
- 5:59David: have the chance of getting bigger fish maybe not
- 6:03David: as many but certainly bigger and I'll give you an idea of size like today we
- 6:08David: were catching fish between five and like 20 pounds but in the other season you
- 6:16David: can certainly expect to catch fish in excess of 25,
- 6:21David: 30 pounds up to like 50, 60.
- 6:25David: It's not a regular thing, but they're around that time of year.
- 6:31David: So we tend to bring eight through 10 weights is the range of rods.
- 6:37Marvin: Got it. And so if I remember correctly, you guys have two more days of fishing.
- 6:41Marvin: Is that right? And then you fly home on Wednesday?
- 6:43David: Well, I have two more days. Steve has one more day because he's going up to
- 6:48David: the Mayan ruins tomorrow. and checking things out in the upcountry.
- 6:52Steve: As you know Marvin it's not all about fishing for me hmm so tomorrow role and
- 7:01Steve: I are gonna be doing some exploring and I'm gonna see the history of the landscape
- 7:06Steve: of his home and I can tell you I've only been here two days and,
- 7:12Steve: I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it. There's no way I would come down here
- 7:15Steve: and fish and not do it here with Raul and Turpentine. There's no way.
- 7:20David: It's funny. It's funny. I've been to the Mayan ruins once by choice,
- 7:25David: but three other times because we got blown out.
- 7:29David: And it's not an everyday thing. When you come in the winter,
- 7:32David: you come for five days, you expect to lose one because when cold fronts come
- 7:37David: down out of the north, you just can't fish.
- 7:41David: So you know we'll go to the Mayan ruins go to art galleries great restaurants
- 7:47David: so you have a lot of things you can do here but in that in that winter season
- 7:53David: you kind of have that expectation,
- 7:56David: it probably happens one set of every four trips but you got to be ready for it well.
- 8:03Marvin: I hope you both of you have an uneventful trip back on Wednesday I was lucky
- 8:08Marvin: enough to make it out of to dodge when I cast when the crowd flare problem happened.
- 8:12Marvin: So I think I've probably used up all of my travel mojo for 2024.
- 8:19Marvin: But also too, you know, we're on the countdown. And so in less than a month,
- 8:23Marvin: Steve, your final book of the casting series will be out, Casting Homeward.
- 8:27Marvin: I know people can pre-order that on Amazon. I will drop a link in the show notes to that for folks.
- 8:33Marvin: And also drop a link, David, to Tarpon Town as well.
- 8:36Marvin: And, you know, folks, we love questions on the Articulate Fly.
- 8:39Marvin: You can email them to us or DM us on social media, whatever is easiest for you.
- 8:43Marvin: And as I always say, we need to make David's life easy, so just send them to
- 8:46Marvin: me. Don't send them to David.
- 8:47Marvin: And if we use your question, I will send you some Articulate Fly swag.
- 8:50Marvin: And we're here in a drawing for a Royal Wolf line of your choice.
- 8:53Marvin: And David and I, I wouldn't say we're smitten with Royal Wolf lines, but we do like them.
- 8:57Marvin: And I don't fish the tropical saltwater ones, but I definitely fish the triangle tapers.
- 9:03Marvin: And they're great lines. So send us your questions. and as I always say,
- 9:08Marvin: folks, you owe it to yourself to get out there and catch a few.
- 9:10Marvin: Tight lines, everybody.