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Three Kinds of Death · Urantia Radio

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Welcome to the Urantia Radio Podcast.
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My name is Jim Watkins, longtime reader and student of the 5th
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Epical Revelation. And on this episode we're going
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to talk about force. We're going to talk about power
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and space and all kinds of interesting and fascinating
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topics that are coming to light, no pun intended, with regards to
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contemporary science and how it interplays with Urantia
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revelation. So we're going to get to a lot
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of interesting information and I hope you'll hang out with me and
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enjoy the ride as we continue with the Rancho Radio Podcast.
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Welcome to the Rancho Radio Podcast.
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And I do mean that when I mean welcome.
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I am so humbled by the wonderful feedback that I get from people
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who check out the podcast and some of the people that have
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been listening to a long time. And I always get these
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incredible questions and comments from listeners and I
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may try to find a way to share some of them here.
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But I want to talk about what's happening in space right now.
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And then I also want to talk about what's happening here on
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the planet and some other thoughts that I have to share
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about the process of death. And death is is always a
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complicated issue. And what prompted it was the
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passing of a dear old friend who I found out recently, someone
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who I've known for 40 years and who was in many ways a mentor to
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me. He was a fellow broadcaster who
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had hired me and through our relationship of employer
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employee, we actually grew to become really good friends.
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And he was about 2020 years my senior.
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He had a very illustrative past. He was a colorful man.
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He grew up in the Las Vegas area and I got a chance to get to
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know his wife and his children. One time.
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I even dressed, dressed up as Santa Claus to his young
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children. It was a delightful memory.
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And we just kept in touch and he passed away and it was a too
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sudden. He was a man who took care of
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himself. He was inspiring, very active.
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But it you know, when this happens, you start to think
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about things. It just, it has a profound
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effect on you and you can't help it.
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The effect that it has is obviously inversely proportional
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to how much they mean to you in your life.
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And he meant a lot to me and I was.
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I was saddened because he had just moved to this part of the
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country where I'm at and we were then.
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We were then 100 miles of each other and I had planned on
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meeting him and seeing him and spending time frequently, but
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all of that was short circuited. And I I I think when we talk
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about death and then we're going to get to power in the universe
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and some of the other stuff that's going on.
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But I just want to spend a moment with this, because it's
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an important distinction that the Urantia Book brings up how
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we view death and the process of death.
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And the question I have for you is, what's the greater sin?
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What is the greater sin? Someone who has chosen to
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disbelieve in deity. Someone who has no conceptual
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foundation, and they don't even want to have a conceptual
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foundation about religion. And there are a lot of people
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that don't want to have anything to do with religion.
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There's a reason they they call themselves the nuns.
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And I've had talks with fellow Uranchovic readers about this,
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and there's no question in my mind that Western culture is
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going through a phase where a lot of people and it's become
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politically expedient to be an atheist or to be a materialist.
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So I ask you, what is the greater sin?
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And I say that, you know, I'm using sin because it's a
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powerful world word and people know what it means, is what's
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the greater disloyalty to not believe in God or not to believe
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in deity principles or to believe them, but you reject
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them, which is what Lucifer did. Lucifer rejected the idea of
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their being a deity and therefore the rules don't apply.
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Why all the rules? Why can't we just have total
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entitlement to self liberty and explore our own journey or find
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our own path? And that is a philosophy that
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permeates materialism. Materialism or or agnosticism
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simply says that there is no God and there is no purpose for all
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of this and that we just have to live our lives.
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And then there are people who believe in God or they believe
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in God and or they believe that there's some purpose but they
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choose to ignore it in their life.
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It doesn't have anything to do with their thinking or their
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philosophy. There's still a materialist.
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They don't deny God, but they just don't have any
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relationship. And I say, what is the greater
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sin? And what I'm What do I mean by
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that? Well, what I mean is what are we
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going to be held accountable to assuming there is a God,
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assuming there is an afterlife? The assuming that we continue on
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and we retain our personalities and we retain our memory and we
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wake up and we are in another place and we begin to recognize
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our previous life and our memories start to come back to
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us. And then we go through the
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process of seeing others who have made, who've been liberated
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from the flesh and are now ascended beings and they're on
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their way. Well, it's interesting to note
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that I think the Urantia book defines really three forms of
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death. And that's what I kind of want
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to get into just briefly here because I think this answers the
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question. So the first kind of death is
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the brain, or the body just ceases to function.
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For whatever reason. Our consciousness is no longer
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active and the electrochemical reactions inside of our minds
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are no longer responsive, reactive.
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Our life vehicle is no longer a living Organism and as a
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consequence of that our brain doesn't function and our mind
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needs a place in which to function.
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So the second form of death, it may not necessarily be the death
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of the body, but the mind is no longer properly functioning
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because of a disease, some form of impairment that makes it
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impossible for the brain to function normally.
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And we'd see. We, of course, obviously we see
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this with people who have dementia and Alzheimer's or
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people that suffer catastrophic brain damage, but their body
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continues to function. But the way the revelators say
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is that the universe authorities, they look at that
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person as being dead, even though their body is still
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working because there's no chance that there's going to be
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any. It's fair to say that the
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thought adjuster probably leaves the spirit fragment of the
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father that is in doubt in our minds probably takes exit
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because the the the brain of the individual, the personality, is
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no longer able to function properly within the mind.
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The body still works, but the mind is.
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Then there's a third form of death, and they call that the
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death of the spiritual, and this is outlined in paper 112 and
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Section 3, and it says spiritual death, or what I say soul death,
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is when a man has finally rejected survival when he has
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been pronounced spiritually insolvent, when such coordinate
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advice has been recorded. Thereupon do the rulers order
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the immediate release of the indwelling spirit fragment.
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And this kind of death is final in its significance,
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irrespective of the temporary continuation of the living
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energies of the physical and mind mechanisms.
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That's from one paper 112, Section 3.
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From the cosmic standpoint, the mortal is already dead.
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The continuing life merely indicates the persistence of the
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material momentum of cosmic energies.
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So what does that mean to reject survival?
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And that kind of gets me to my point.
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And I don't like to interpret these these pages.
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I like to have you read them in, but for the sake of our
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discussion, what it means is if you're rejecting survival, it
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means that you do not believe in the plan.
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You are not subscribing to the plan.
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It is not the plan that you believe is possible.
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And therefore you have adopted a philosophy of life where you cut
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yourself off from that spiritual insight, that spiritual thought
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of the continuance of your being.
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And so in in many ways, it's a form of spiritual suicide.
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Now, a person who is not spiritual would not be concerned
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that they are cutting themselves off from the universal mind
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because they don't even believe that it exists.
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So how many people do you know have adopted this philosophy?
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How many people in positions of authority adopt this, this
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general secular position and in no way will accept the idea of
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spiritual survival beyond the moral estate?
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Well, I hate to break it to you, but there are a lot of people in
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the world who do reject survival.
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They don't want to have anything to do with it.
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It is the adoptive way of thinking for many cultures.
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And it goes it explains why in certain cultures religion
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offends them, why people get offended.
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It's interesting that certain religions are more offensive
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than others. Christianity seems to really
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offend people who are of a progressive or a scientific mind
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and they believe in scientism which is that everything can be
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explained with science. If science doesn't explain it,
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it doesn't exist. So but then you have governments
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like China and North Korea. I was just reading the BBC has a
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new movie out about what life is life like in North Korea from
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people who have escaped. And and I've of course seen,
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I've read two or three books on the subject and and seen YouTube
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videos and it's it's unbelievable.
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In fact if you go back to my early early episodes, you hear
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me sort of reference and there's a bit of panic because just
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thinking that there's 50 million people, probably more than a
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billion people on this planet, who are suffering specifically
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because they put their faith in God.
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And that's just, it takes, it takes your heart away.
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But atheism and the reputation of deity is a philosophy of
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living. One either believes conscious
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life has a continuance or they don't.
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One believes either they will be held account for our actions on
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Earth, and then the conduct of such a person has value.
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If one believes there is no possibility of survival, then
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every act on earth reflects that philosophy.
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I believe there's no greater choice of a human being with
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sole potential to make. And that's why I bring it up.
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Because the Urantia Book is a revelation.
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It is telling us. It opens the door to this grand
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perspective of of survival, of continuance.
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I was just watching this Dick Bane thing he did on Astronomy.
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You might want to look it up. It's easy to find.
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Just type in in your search engine, your ranch of astronomy
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and you'll find a presentation he has on Pinterest.
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And boy, the the grandiose size of the universe is just
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humbling. When you think of how much there
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is in in the grand super universe, it is humbling and the
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Urancha book fills in what that whole universe is about.
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Interesting. So we're being given a book.
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It's not popular, it's not it's growing, but it's not in the
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mainstream. And it's a shame because I think
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a lot of people like I, I I was thinking you know Elon Musk,
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Elon Musk, who I have a lot of respect for because of his
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entrepreneurial spirit and his insight.
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He could use the Urantia Book. Think about if we had these
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people in very powerful positions who could adopt the
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Urantia book philosophy. He wouldn't want to build and
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try to come up with this idea of moving people off planet to live
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on the moon or live on Mars. If I, I think if if someone, I
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was talking to that friend of mine who's been on the program
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about projects that he wants to do with Urantia book.
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And I said, well, you got to try to find venture capitalists,
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people that are willing to invest because this book is so
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cutting edge and if you get the right people, they'll help you
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with your projects. And I said, man, I'd love to get
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this in the hands of Elon Musk because his worldview, the
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worldview, a lot of these people that are in great positions of
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authority and power is actually devoid of God.
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They don't know this plan. They don't know the Morontia
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life. They don't know about the
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formation of the nebula. And there's they continue to the
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persistent reject the idea of it because science has has
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convinced them that if it can't be proven, then it must be
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rejected. So a lot of people will will
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come up with the argument hey look if I don't believe in God
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and I'm wrong, you know what will he say?
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And and I think that's the thing that they miss is that you have
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to be committed to the idea. You have to have some cosmic
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perspective. And that's what I think the
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Urantia book aims to do, is give us that cosmic perspective.
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And it's it's quite amazing reading about force organizers
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and power force directors. And if you if you open the page
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of part three of the book where the Urantia book talks about the
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beginnings of our universe and the beginnings of our solar
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system. I I I find it hilarious that
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there is an there is a mention of the fact that before our
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universe was brought into existence.
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Michael's creation of Nebadon. Before that they sent out an
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inspector a spiritual inspector And these these these Sentinels
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go out and they've survey the land in in this case the cosmic
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landscape and they make a determination is is there enough
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space and are the conditions ripe for Michael number six
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11121 to build his his his local universe of Nebedon.
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And these inspectors are actually the offspring of the
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Trinity spirits, and I believe it could be the mother spirit,
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the infinite spirit. So these are beings that are
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created for this specific purpose, just like and and, and
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I want to just pause on that. The Urantia Book goes to great
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lengths to explain that there are all these different types of
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personality types and they have a specific job.
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They they have a specific function in the universe.
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You have divine ministers, you have ancients of days, you have
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solitary messengers. And these are all terms that are
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descriptive of what they do. And it's not so different from
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human life because we have people that were born and they
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have incredible music talent, and so they get into music and
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they provide music to the world. You have people that are
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mathematical geniuses and they, if they have the proper
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conditions and life works out for them, those talents that
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were born are then put to use in that area of their expertise.
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So it's not unlike the human condition that you would have
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creation filled with people who have specific talents, specific
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purposes, specific jobs. And this one associate inspector
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just happened to go out and pull a permit.
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It says that in the arrangement book he actually filed a permit
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and reported his findings to the ancients of days.
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And then several billion years later, here come the
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construction workers, here come the power force organizers, the
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all these all these beings that have certain inherent abilities,
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and they begin the spin. They retract or retreat from the
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right and it causes a a moment where there's a world of energy
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and from that initial spin becomes a great nebula that
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spits out almost a billion Suns. That's amazing to me.
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And that provides to me a landscape that I think someone
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like an Elon Musk, because it's a lot more logical.
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Elon Musk could conceive of that.
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He could say that would be something that would be
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legitimate because then it takes the mystery and the superstition
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out of religion and it moves it to the side and it integrates
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science, faith, philosophy. So, and there's new discovery
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going on. They've just come out with two
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reports. They're now identifying proper
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exoplanets and they're discovering, just as the Urantia
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book outlined, that life might be more, there would be more
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life if we could find it. Let me put down this Life is
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more likely to occur on smaller satellites of larger planets,
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which is exactly what the Urantia Book says is common in
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our universe. Life always seems to appear more
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commonly on smaller satellites of larger planets, not
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necessarily like us, where we're a smaller satellite to a sun.
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And that's something that the James Webb Telescope is
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revealing. Also, they're finding that there
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are large clusters of smaller galaxies that encircle and move
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around. This is a new discovery that you
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can find if you go on uranchoradio.net.
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I have a column that has all these new scientific articles
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that are being released every day.
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So again, our science is showing us the the view of our universe,
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which is more commensurate with with the Urancha book.
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And that's where I think we'll leave it today.
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We've spent 20 minutes talking about a lot of deep things.
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And again, just it's kind of a recap, you know, it does matter.
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We have to be in the game to win.
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I believe that the greater offense, you know, we talk about
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the greater sin is to not know about God and not know about the
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beauty of deity and the supreme being.
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To me, if you're ignorant and you don't know, you can't reject
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it. But if you reject the idea of
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deity, that to me I think is the greater sin.
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And I also think that is our greatest challenge right now is
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we have people who have rejected even the notion of living in a
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universe that is filled with life and they're satisfied with
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just the material realm. And that set that to me seems, I
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think, rather sad. So we'll leave it there.
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And I appreciate you stopping by.
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Don't forget you can always e-mail me
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urantiabookradio@gmail.com urantiabookradio@gmail.com next
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time up. We're going to spend a little
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time, I think, talking about, well, an interesting story about
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race. We'll pick up that subject again
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just a little bit on the next episode.
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Stay tuned.