Latest / Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD / High Functioning Autism vs Aspergers_ 5 Big Differences YOU NEED TO KNOW
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- 0:00OK, so high functioning autism versus Asperger syndrome.
- 0:03Here are three big differences. I think you should definitely
- 0:06understand no and really get to terms with all that's coming up.
- 0:10Hey guys, welcome back to the Aspy world.
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- 0:30All right guys, high functioning autism is a term and Aspergers
- 0:34is a term terms that we don't really use that much anymore.
- 0:37But there's a reason for that. And I'll explain the reason for
- 0:39that. And I'm going to give you 3
- 0:40differences between them because there is differences.
- 0:43But they would never, you know, when, when they stopped using
- 0:47the term Asperger syndrome and high functioning autism, people
- 0:49didn't really explain what they were and why we stopped using
- 0:52them. We kind of just stopped using
- 0:54them all of a sudden. So basically high functioning
- 0:58classic autism, low functioning Asperger's and all of the in
- 1:03between nomenclature, which is naming all autism.
- 1:07These were put to rest in 2013 and they amalgamated everything
- 1:10into just autism spectrum disorder level 1-2 and three.
- 1:13So then where would we place high functioning autism and
- 1:18Asperges within this? It's very simple.
- 1:22Asperger syndrome would be classed as a level 1 autism and
- 1:25high functional autism would be classed as a level 2 autism.
- 1:28And this is because people who were on the autism spectrum but
- 1:33were diagnosed with Asperger syndrome weren't able to access
- 1:37American healthcare institutionalized insurance
- 1:40company kind of protocol for saying, hey, I need therapy for
- 1:43autism because their diagnosis didn't say autism, it said
- 1:45Asperger's. So they were like, oh, so the
- 1:47insurance companies like, Oh, well, you know, can't payout,
- 1:50can't give you the therapy, you know what it is?
- 1:52And so they're like, God Dang. So then they changed it in 2013.
- 1:55They changed the way that the DSM and then obviously the IDC
- 1:58and then DISCO and ADR. So they all changed the way that
- 2:00they diagnose it. These are all diagnostic manuals
- 2:03and they changed all these. So it was just ASD level 1-2 or
- 2:07three. So autism spectrum disorder and
- 2:08which have a level which I can understand, but also made it
- 2:10super vague, which made it harder for somebody to
- 2:14understand the process where you could like, you know, you might
- 2:16know somebody whose child is a 1415 year old kid in diapers
- 2:20because they don't speak and they're autistic and they have
- 2:23global learning delay, which means they have some
- 2:24intellectual disabilities also. But then you have somebody, OK,
- 2:27almost saying, hey, I'm autistic.
- 2:28And you say, well, how are these people the same?
- 2:29How do they expect the same, you know, level of attention?
- 2:33But they don't because you have low function, you have low
- 2:36support needs and high support needs, which is the old high
- 2:40functioning and low functioning autism is a bit confusing.
- 2:43But we're going to get through those two differences.
- 2:44So #1 is that high functioning autism referred to the level 2
- 2:48autistic individuals who they had like civic skills, like, you
- 2:52know, it's people who could function typically, but they
- 2:57have social skill issues and they also have a delay.
- 3:01There will be some type of cognitive delay within their
- 3:04progression as they grow or as they kind of mature and and
- 3:08develop into adulthood. Whereas people who are
- 3:10Asperger's syndrome display the similar things of like, you
- 3:13know, holding down typical civil tasks and being in society.
- 3:17Yeah, there'd be no delay in the learning abilities that just be
- 3:23a social impairment and some other kind of things like
- 3:26social, you know, I don't know, essentially processing disorder
- 3:29and looking people in the eyes, that kind of thing.
- 3:31So there was a there was a difference, right.
- 3:33And it was to do with like the way in which the the cognitive
- 3:37delay displayed itself. If it was present, it was high
- 3:40functional autism. If it wasn't, it was Asperger
- 3:42syndrome. But that wasn't the only
- 3:43difference, right? This is just no one.
- 3:45Let me see with that. People with Asperger syndrome
- 3:48have the ability to catch up and learn some social skills.
- 3:53They can intellectually see that socializing is a thing that they
- 3:56are good at. And so they can learn maybe a
- 3:59couple of bits and pieces that might make them feel a little
- 4:01bit more like they fit in. OK.
- 4:03So like maybe they could go to an event and I think, well if I
- 4:09talk to people then that's going to be only good for me, right?
- 4:12But with people who had high functioning autism wouldn't even
- 4:14be able to go to the event and would definitely not even know
- 4:17that they are. They are ostracizing themselves
- 4:21from socializing because they don't realize that they haven't
- 4:24got social skills, if that makes sense.
- 4:26And so that's why those those had those two nomenclatures.
- 4:29And again, this is old school terminology.
- 4:30We don't kind of typically use that anymore, even though I'm
- 4:32not policing the words. I'm just saying like you don't
- 4:35typically use those anymore. But I sometimes still use the
- 4:37same Asperges interchangeably because I think it's a good way
- 4:39for people to understand. Because you say, I've got autism
- 4:41spectrum soda level 2. They're like what?
- 4:44Or if I've got autism spectrum soda level 1, they go what?
- 4:47And so it's easier for them if for a person say, oh, I've got
- 4:51Asperger syndrome, they're like, oh, OK, I get it.
- 4:53I get it. OK, so #3 is that when people
- 4:57are diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, they always have an
- 5:02above level intelligence quota or a an intellectual ability
- 5:07that was above average, right? And this is not what they're
- 5:11sometimes called genius symptoms, call it gifted, but
- 5:13it's basically just above average, right?
- 5:15But when people have the diagnosis of high functioning
- 5:18autism, they would have average to below average intelligence,
- 5:22right? And that was really interesting
- 5:24because that's how they still kind of look at where you are.
- 5:27Level 1-2 or three. There was a big hole who have
- 5:29within the community, people say, oh, you can't use some, you
- 5:32know, you can't say stuff like that because it makes you sound
- 5:34like you're, you know, supreme to the people who have just
- 5:37classic autism, high functional autism or autism, Level 1 is
- 5:41different. Level 2 and 3.
- 5:43So if you've got a level 1 diagnosis and you're different
- 5:45level 2 and three, well, yeah, we're all different, right?
- 5:47That's what makes it so beautiful.
- 5:49But it doesn't mean that we're trying to say, well, better than
- 5:50anybody. It just means that that's the
- 5:52diagnosis you have. You know, it's kind of like if
- 5:54you, if you are a better painter than somebody, then it's OK.
- 5:58That's just the fact of the matter, isn't it?
- 6:00If you have a high intellectual ability versus someone just an
- 6:02average intellectual ability, that's not supremism, that's
- 6:05just, well, that's just how you are.
- 6:07And so that's really interesting.
- 6:08There was a big old Hoover in it, but it's so funny.
- 6:11We don't really use those terms anymore.
- 6:12But with that also you have like low functioning autism, which
- 6:15was then taken away because like it's almost derogative in a way
- 6:19because you kind of making the person feel bad.
- 6:20Like I'm low functioning. Like what's that even mean?
- 6:22How does that even fit into it? But if you think about it,
- 6:24there's another kind of diagnostic which is inside the
- 6:27realm of autism, but also outside of it, which is kind of
- 6:31like it's called savantism. And it's kind of like Rain Man
- 6:35Dustin Hoffman plays Raymond, right?
- 6:36And he, he studied him for the movie study.
- 6:38The guy called Kim Peak, who is a savant.
- 6:40No, Kim Peak was had low intellectual ability, had
- 6:43developmental delay, yet he was very gifted.
- 6:47He was extremely intellectual. And he was called the human
- 6:50Google at some point, Kim Peak. And he could read a book both
- 6:54pages simultaneously, but with one eye on each page.
- 6:56That was so interesting, right? But he wasn't really autistic in
- 7:01the sense of like you wouldn't put him into one, two or three.
- 7:04What happened was he had intellectual ability of a level
- 7:081 autistic, but had the global learning delay and the, the, you
- 7:12know, the the cognitive delay of a Level 3 autistic.
- 7:15So but check someone to a new realm, what they call it
- 7:17savantism or savant syndrome. Again, fascinating.
- 7:21If you'd like to see a video on savant syndrome, just let me
- 7:23know in the comments. I read every single one.
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