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TMCP Ep 13: Trini Ochoa Pre-Fight Interview · The Mixed Company Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In this corner standing it six foot five, weight class
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  Speaker 1: unknown hailing from Sin City, Las Vegas, Jamison Welch and
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  Speaker 1: in this corner standing it five foot nine, Wayne Town
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  Speaker 1: with six wins, three losses, two arrests, four late payments
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  Speaker 1: on student loans, and two total painkruptcies hits Doug Classy,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go hold.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Mixed Company podcast. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: I'm one of your hosts, Jamison Wells. It's been a minute,
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  Speaker 2: of course, I'm joined by the classy alcoholic classic. What's
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  Speaker 2: going on?
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  Speaker 3: Man o man?
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  Speaker 4: I am so excited today for episode thirteen. We have
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  Speaker 4: a special guest with us today. You know, we had
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  Speaker 4: a guest for the last episode in due to technical difficulties,
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  Speaker 4: it didn't work out, but we're making.
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  Speaker 2: Up for it. I'm not letting you go nope, nope.
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  Speaker 2: Before we're bringing our guests great.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, we're using a new streaming service and
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  Speaker 4: one one of our co hosts just didn't hit record.
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  Speaker 4: Let's just say the one who's an amateur and more
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  Speaker 4: of an idiot than the boxing expert didn't hit record.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know it all happens.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad we're back, and I'm glad we do have
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  Speaker 2: a different guests, though I want you to bring, you know,
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  Speaker 2: intro our guests and bring them on.
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  Speaker 4: But we have a bit of a surprise, a good surprise.
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  Speaker 4: Though we do have a surprise. We get we get
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  Speaker 4: to have a due over on our first time, don't
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  Speaker 4: we wish we could all have a due over on
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  Speaker 4: the first time. So we're going to bring to the
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  Speaker 4: stage a fighter, professional fighter based in Phoenix. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: fellow Arizona, I'm from Tucson or I'm in Tucson rather,
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  Speaker 4: and he's got a fight coming up. Not this weekend,
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  Speaker 4: but if you're listening to this when it comes out Saturday,
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  Speaker 4: April nineteenth, let's not delay. Let's bring in our man
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  Speaker 4: to the stage. Welcome to the ring, Triny, Oho, Triny.
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  Speaker 4: How's it going?
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  Speaker 3: How's it going? Guys? Thanks for having me now.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much. We really really appreciate you. How
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  Speaker 4: will you? How are you feeling? You know, I know
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  Speaker 4: you got a fight coming up, you know, what's that
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  Speaker 4: about a week and a half out. What's the feeling
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  Speaker 4: at this point? Like are you stoked? Are you still
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  Speaker 4: kind of is it not ready in your mind yet?
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  Speaker 4: Like Are you always ready all the time?
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  Speaker 5: Tell us I'm always ready. I'm excited. I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 5: to the fight.
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  Speaker 6: It's always like like a holiday for me, like another.
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  Speaker 5: Birthday in the day where everybody gets together, everybody shows
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  Speaker 5: up to the fights. I put on a good show
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  Speaker 5: where everybody has a good time and everybody celebrates. So
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  Speaker 5: it's always a great time. Is something for me to
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  Speaker 5: look forward to always. And I've been losing the weight,
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  Speaker 5: I've been doing great training, giving up with my sparring.
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  Speaker 5: Everything's going great this camp, and I just aford it awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome, And who exactly are you fighting?
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  Speaker 6: He's gonna be thirteen to one. He's a tough fighter.
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  Speaker 5: He has a ton of amateur experience too. And I'm
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  Speaker 5: I'm ready though. We've done our research, and I feel
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  Speaker 5: like I could. At this point in my career, I
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  Speaker 5: could take on anybody, and I should be taking any
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  Speaker 5: fight sick.
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  Speaker 3: Gotcha?
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  Speaker 4: Gotcha? So let me tell you something. I've taken some
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  Speaker 4: boxing classes. I've done a lot of sparing in my day.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing serious. I'm just never good at it. Got my
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  Speaker 4: ass kicked a lot. I gotta be honest with you,
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  Speaker 4: but it was a lot of fun. I did it
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  Speaker 4: for fun. I never thought that, you know, I would
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  Speaker 4: do be anything professional. I'm thirty nine, so like I'm
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  Speaker 4: nobody's champ. Let's let's be real about it. But it
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  Speaker 4: was a lot of fun. It was a lot of
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  Speaker 4: hard work. And I have a lot of questions for
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  Speaker 4: somebody that really does this, you know, professionally in a ring.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I have a million questions. But let's see.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say let's say I was twenty to fifteen years
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  Speaker 4: younger and I wanted to actually go from a boxing
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  Speaker 4: gym to be in an event in a ring, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with with spectators and stuff. What's that process? I've never
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  Speaker 4: known how a guy goes from just you know, hitting
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  Speaker 4: a bag and sparring in a ring to being inside
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  Speaker 4: being at an event.
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  Speaker 3: What's that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, well, first of all, we all get our ass kick,
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  Speaker 5: and it's just coming back, keep getting your ass kicked
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  Speaker 5: until you don't get your ass kicked anymore.
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  Speaker 3: And that's usually the process with that. No worries on that.
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  Speaker 4: I got that work, and.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, I know it all just starts with showing up
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  Speaker 6: at a boxing gym.
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  Speaker 5: I talked to the coaches seeing, you know what what
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  Speaker 5: they're what they're what the coaches are like, like if
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  Speaker 5: they have other amateur fighters going to amateur shows and stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Because it all starts with the amateurs, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: you let them know your intentions. If your intentions is
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  Speaker 5: to be a fighter right away, you let them know
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  Speaker 5: your intentions and just to establish.
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  Speaker 6: That, like to keep an eye on you.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, they won't give you mitwork or anything right away,
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  Speaker 5: but as long as you're showing up every day, you're
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  Speaker 5: showing you you have the drive, the passion to be
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  Speaker 5: in the gym and to put in the work and
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  Speaker 5: just show up consistently. Eventually, Uh, a coach or two
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  Speaker 5: will see you and and they'll start giving you that mitwork,
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  Speaker 5: seeing what you're about, start seeing if you really committed
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  Speaker 5: to it, start showing you a thing or two here
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  Speaker 5: and there, and it goes from there. Eventually you know,
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  Speaker 5: you'll find yourself an amateur fighter too. And then that's
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  Speaker 5: when we really get tested to see if you have
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  Speaker 5: it in you to be a fighter, to stand on
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  Speaker 5: that stage with the people watching and fighting and uh,
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  Speaker 5: and you just you just keep it going.
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  Speaker 4: From there, gotcha? So from the amateurs, you know, is
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  Speaker 4: that something that what's then jumping off process from that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, does somebody have to kind of is it
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  Speaker 4: like other sports we get scouted, you know, somebody like
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  Speaker 4: a scout doing for a little league or anything like that, Like.
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  Speaker 5: There's no that's the difference with Boxing's not really no
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  Speaker 5: fine line. Professional boxers have a wide why the whitest
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  Speaker 5: the range of skill sets from from the top of
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  Speaker 5: the top to the low of the low. When you
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  Speaker 5: feel like you're ready to become a professional after you
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  Speaker 5: know certa amount of amateur fights, you hop in there
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  Speaker 5: and you do your thing and you try to do
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  Speaker 5: the best to show you the best of your abilities
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  Speaker 5: on that professional stage. And it's a lot different when
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  Speaker 5: no head gear, smaller gloves, and it's all different fighting
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  Speaker 5: staff too for amateurs.
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  Speaker 4: Juremany when I did my sparring, it was just with
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  Speaker 4: some bros on the weekend. You know, nobody was trying
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  Speaker 4: to knock you out, but nobody wore headgear. And I
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  Speaker 4: had a thing, but I wasn't going to come in
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  Speaker 4: and being the only one with it, because then I'd
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  Speaker 4: be like, I'm no coward, right, Like, if these guys
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  Speaker 4: are going to do it, it was stupid, But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know they were doing it. But yeah, so how
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  Speaker 4: long have you actually what did you get into boxing?
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  Speaker 6: How long you've been I had my first amateur fight
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  Speaker 6: when I was fourteen.
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  Speaker 5: My first uh my coach at the time, Jose Benavitez,
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  Speaker 5: that's who taught me my first two years of boxing,
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  Speaker 5: started off my amateur career and all that. So I
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  Speaker 5: was fortunate to have such a such a good prominent.
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  Speaker 7: Coach teach me the fundamental teaching, the basics starting on
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  Speaker 7: my career, and I'm grateful that to this day we
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  Speaker 7: take things that we've learned from me and my dad,
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  Speaker 7: who's down my coach, we.
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  Speaker 6: Take things that we've learned from them and bring with
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  Speaker 6: us today.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome, awesome, you know that's uh. I think boxing is
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  Speaker 4: the coolest part in the world, the hardest sport in
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  Speaker 4: the world as well. And when I started into it,
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  Speaker 4: I got into it in my mid thirties, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: for fun, so again, no way too late to be
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  Speaker 4: anybody's champ. But what stood out to me the most
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  Speaker 4: is how there's so much to it. If everybody thinks,
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  Speaker 4: like your boxer, you gotta be strong, you gotta be
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  Speaker 4: able to punch, and you gotta lift weights, whatever, No,
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  Speaker 4: it's cardio, it's strength from head to toe, legs, it's diet,
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  Speaker 4: it's everything. What would you say the hardest part of
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  Speaker 4: training to be a fighter would be out of all
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  Speaker 4: those things because I was a big cardio guy and
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  Speaker 4: never I did weights because I wanted to get stronger,
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  Speaker 4: but that was never really my thing. But yeah, what's
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  Speaker 4: what would you say for you like the difficult the
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  Speaker 4: most difficult part of staying in shape getting fight ready?
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  Speaker 5: Since exactly that staying in shape, staying fight ready. The
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  Speaker 5: most important part about boxing and the most hardest part
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  Speaker 5: is discipline, staying disciplined in.
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  Speaker 3: And outside of the gym. I'm outside the gym.
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  Speaker 5: You can't be partying with friends, you can't be drinking,
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  Speaker 5: you can't be you know, messing around.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta stay on way. You gotta stay disciplined.
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  Speaker 5: You got to show up to the gym every day,
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  Speaker 5: you know, several times a day even, and you just
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  Speaker 5: got to keep sticking to it and show you your
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  Speaker 5: dedication and your drive to to accomplish your goals that
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  Speaker 5: you have. And it's a good thing too, even if
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  Speaker 5: you're not taking boxing serious, to follow.
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  Speaker 6: Those same principles throughout life.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, agreed. So where's where's the line like between somebody
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  Speaker 4: that has it and does it? I mean you said
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  Speaker 4: show up to the gym every day? Is it seven
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  Speaker 4: days a week? Literally? And then on top of that,
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  Speaker 4: is that like an hour or two hours? Is it
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  Speaker 4: four hours at the gym? Like how do you go
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  Speaker 4: from somebody's really really into boxing, dedicated and then somebody
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  Speaker 4: who just is going to live it is going to
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  Speaker 4: be a professional, Like where where's the disconnect?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 5: First things first is having a schedule. Like my schedule is,
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  Speaker 5: you know, every day, three.
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  Speaker 3: Times a day.
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  Speaker 5: I have Sundays on my day off, Saturdays I train once,
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  Speaker 5: but Monday through Friday it's every day, three times a day.
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  Speaker 5: I wake up early, get my running and get my
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  Speaker 5: you know a little bit of cardio in. I come
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  Speaker 5: back home, I rest, I wake up again at eleven twelve,
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  Speaker 5: I'll go back to bed, take of the map, wake
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  Speaker 5: up again at eleven twelve, do my boxing training for
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  Speaker 5: at least two hours, get back home, rest up again,
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  Speaker 5: and do my strength conditioning at five point thirty.
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  Speaker 4: Who that's a whole day, Your whole day is decade.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Want to monopolize the conversation. It's super excited to have
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  Speaker 4: you here. But lease Jamison, please, do you have any
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  Speaker 4: questions for our guest here?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 2: I do. You seem very mentally focused and strong. That's
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  Speaker 2: very good to see. Where does that come from? Because
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  Speaker 2: you're very everything's a strict regimen, very focused on ask
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  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of expectations and you've seen the
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  Speaker 2: man everything very well.
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  Speaker 3: What does that come from?
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  Speaker 5: I have a good relationship with my dad and that's
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  Speaker 5: a big determining factor in that you know, there was
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  Speaker 5: times when we had nothing and and he stayed focused,
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  Speaker 5: he stayed locked in on on on everything in life
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  Speaker 5: where we barely had a house sometimes and he never
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  Speaker 5: he never wavered, he never hesitated. He always just looked
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  Speaker 5: ahead and said taking one step back to take two
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  Speaker 5: steps forward. So I've been in way worse positions in
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  Speaker 5: life and and everything, and I just know that at
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  Speaker 5: the end of thea everything's gonna be okay as long.
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  Speaker 6: As you stick to the plan and UH tough through it.
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  Speaker 2: Got you Now when people call you the face of
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  Speaker 2: Phoenix boxing, what does that mean to you?
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  Speaker 5: It was an honor to see, I think on Ring
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  Speaker 5: magazine when when I saw that article.
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  Speaker 6: It was definitely a big honor.
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  Speaker 5: It's something I wanted to war with pride and carry
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  Speaker 5: on my shoulders and keep lifting that dead title up
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  Speaker 5: even further.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Plassy. Yeah, So speaking of Phoenix boxing scene,
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  Speaker 4: you know, so I'm in Tucson and I've been in
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  Speaker 4: Arizona for like twenty years now. I'm originally from Texas
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  Speaker 4: shout out to h Town, but made Arizona my home.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, honestly, like, I don't know a lot
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  Speaker 4: about the Phoenix boxing scene. I know that there's the
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  Speaker 4: brawl in the body of events that I've been to before.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you got iron Boy Boxing you're involved in.
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  Speaker 4: You know, how would you say the scene is in Arizona? Like,
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  Speaker 4: is there a lot of people that fight, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people that attend. I'm Mexican American, what I always say,
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  Speaker 4: Mexicans love boxing. Arizona has a lot of them. So
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  Speaker 4: it's popular here. But how popular is it really? Being
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  Speaker 4: an insider, like, do you get big crowds coming out?
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  Speaker 4: What's that like?
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  Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, at least whenever I fight, we bring a
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  Speaker 6: big crowd.
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  Speaker 5: Got a lot of friends, a lot of family, and
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people who just support and show love there.
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  Speaker 5: So I want to give us a big shout out
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  Speaker 5: to them every time. If you ever seen me at
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  Speaker 5: Celebrity Theater, you know, you know that place is going
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  Speaker 5: to be packed.
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  Speaker 6: And every recently having fun, having a good time.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of other good up and coming fighters
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  Speaker 5: out of out of Arizona too, so keep an eye
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  Speaker 5: out for them. And we always like to support our
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  Speaker 5: local scene, our local uh local community with.
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  Speaker 3: Fighters, not just in Phoenix, but in all of Arizona.
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  Speaker 5: I think we should, you know, carry each other up
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  Speaker 5: and put our names out there and then help each other.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm a big advocator.
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  Speaker 5: In that, and I think we got a lot of
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  Speaker 5: potential in Arizona right now and good things.
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  Speaker 6: Are coming our way.
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  Speaker 4: That's bad ass, That's absolutely bad ass. How often do
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  Speaker 4: you fight a couple times a year? Or what's what's
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  Speaker 4: where you at you right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Usually usually at least three times a year?
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  Speaker 5: Is I try to stay stay consistent, stay really consistent.
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  Speaker 5: My last fight was not even two months ago. I'm
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  Speaker 5: already you know, getting ready for this next one. So
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  Speaker 5: after my last fight, it was a short fight, so
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  Speaker 5: I didn't really have to take too much recovery time.
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  Speaker 5: It was stopped in the third round, and then so
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  Speaker 5: I had I fought on Saturday, I had Sunday off,
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  Speaker 5: Monday off.
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  Speaker 4: And then we're right back in the gym on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 4: right right back at the gym, bro no rest. I
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  Speaker 4: appreciate that the so I did like after the ROWNA,
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  Speaker 4: I turned into a big fat piece of crap. Let's
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  Speaker 4: be honest. I got into boxing, got super into it,
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  Speaker 4: taking lesson. I was doing like six days a week
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  Speaker 4: at my peak. It wasn't like all the time, but
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  Speaker 4: at my peak, I was doing like six days a week,
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  Speaker 4: two two and a half hours in the gym. Because
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  Speaker 4: I loved it. I took some time away to go
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  Speaker 4: back to my roots and focus on getting fat again,
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  Speaker 4: you know, kind of reconnect with the old me. But
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  Speaker 4: but it's something I definitely want to get back to.
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  Speaker 4: But it is a wild life. Like is there so
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  Speaker 4: you started this, like you said when you were when
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  Speaker 4: you were a kid, you know, was there ever a
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  Speaker 4: period where you were like, okay, I still need like
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  Speaker 4: a job and also boxing or like were you all in?
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  Speaker 4: Was it all boxing all the time ever since you
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  Speaker 4: were a teenager? What is that like? Because it's it's
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  Speaker 4: a long it's a long day of if you know,
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  Speaker 4: just training.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I've been all in since I was
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  Speaker 5: a kid. But i mean, yeah, obviously you need money.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes you need a support. I'm luckily to have started.
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  Speaker 5: You know, my professional career started getting paid for it
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  Speaker 5: early on, when I was eighteen nineteen. I became a pro,
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  Speaker 5: so not always boxing always kind of paid a little
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  Speaker 5: bit for my, uh my expenses that I needed, and
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  Speaker 5: you know, in between, I would do you know, things
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  Speaker 5: like Uber Eats deliveries and door dash and stuff. Every
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  Speaker 5: now and then I'll still hop in because I just
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  Speaker 5: find it relaxing sometimes. But okay, I would do that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, just.
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  Speaker 6: To find your extra money to make some bills or something,
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  Speaker 6: you know.
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  Speaker 3: But for the for the most.
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  Speaker 5: Part, I've just been locked in on boxing. And then
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  Speaker 5: now I'm fortunate enough to do it, you know, one
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  Speaker 5: hundred percent. And uh boxing you know, takes cares for everything.
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  Speaker 5: All my sponsors shout out to them. They take care
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  Speaker 5: of for I have great training camps. You know, I
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  Speaker 5: don't have to worry about anything. So I'm very fortunate.
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  Speaker 3: Gotcha, gotcha?
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  Speaker 4: Now that's awesome. So the thing about you know, like
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  Speaker 4: I said, if you're you were into boxing, you know,
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  Speaker 4: all in when you were a kid. But what if
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  Speaker 4: somebody is like, I'm twenty five, you know, and I said,
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  Speaker 4: it is getting into it? Not me again, because I'm old.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about somebody that's younger gets into it, really
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  Speaker 4: likes it. Is it a thing that is it even possible?
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  Speaker 4: Like do they Is it like a I'm not gonna say,
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  Speaker 4: don't chase your dream, but you know, in your opinion,
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  Speaker 4: and what is it like for somebody that's kind of older,
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: because boxing, you know, you'll get twenty nine, you're basically
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: a senior citizen. What's your take on somebody's ability to
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: become pro? Maybe not a superstar, maybe not you selling
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: out you know, arenas or anything like that, but to
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: be legitimately in the ring.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: When I started, I started at fourteen, I felt like
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: I was starting. My dad always told me there's these
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: kids who started boxing since I was six years old.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: They be't doing it really amateurs. So since they was
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: six eight years old, I just had to work that
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: much harder to catch ups than you told me. And
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: even before I turned pro, I put in that work.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: I worked my ass off, and I felt like I
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: did catch up and surpassed them, and my careers just
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: kept going forward from that. I haven't slowed down yet,
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: So I feel great and I don't think anything's impossible.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: So for anybody who still get into it, it's gonna
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: be harder, harder than I had it, harder than anybody's
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: had it. If you're starting, you know, at twenty five,
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: twenty six or whatever, that's my age. Now, you're gonna
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: have a lot of catching up to do. I'm like, lead,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: you got to ship it to me that easy. But
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: I do believe you could do it. You know, You're
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: just gonna have to be patient, though. You're gonna have
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: to dedicate a lot, a lot of time, a lot
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: of energy, and pretty much your whole life to it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: If you want to jump into the state awesome, awesome Jameson,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: please you know, don't, yeah take over? No, I got you,
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I got you.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: You gotta catch your breath. As a wader that's in it,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: you know, always training, always ready. Is there a like
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: a plan for the future or do you take things
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: like fight by fight? So do you have like a
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: plan like saying, hey, next week fights are doing this
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: this and that and this is the goal or are
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: you more focused on each fight as it comes.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: Each fight as they come. You know, the the toughest
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: opponent is opponent that's right in front of you. So
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take my opponents one by one and uh
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: where about.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: What comes comes after that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: But we're always stay ready like I said, and we
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: stay ready for that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Phone call for whatever.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: You know, if somebody drops out of one of those
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: world title fights, We're gonna be ready to step up
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: at all times.
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: So I'm just looking forward to it for opportunities like that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Is there a place that you want to fight out,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: like a city or location that you want to fight
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: out that you haven't yet.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Well, all my fights have been in my hometown right now,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: and it would be really cool ideally to bring a
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: world title to Phoenix, to my hometown.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: So if I could fight for that over here.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: You know, we're working on bringing these these big crowds
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: to the local shows, and I just want to keep
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: bringing these big crowds and showing up and showing people
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: that we can bring a big title over here.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: And I want to represent from my city.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I live in Vegas, so I'm right next door.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I would love to see you here. However, I don't
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: mind going out there. It's an hour fight, four hour drives,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: so whatever works, let me know, we'll make it work.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: But the Vegas is right here. It's like my second home.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: We're over there all the time for sparring and stuff
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: like that, So I would in mind vegasy there.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: I like that place.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Now, question, how do you stay focused out here? Because
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I've been here twenty something years and I've seen a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: lot of boxes come here and they're not focused on
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Oh there's a reason I don't. I don't live in Vegas.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Let me say that right now.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: My name is the classic alcoholic. Let's make that clear.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: But go ahead.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Here and they can't stay out the casinos and the clubs. However,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: when you come here and work out, how do you
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: stay focused?
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: Well, my dad's my coach. So if I'm coming here,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: I'm coming with my dad.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: He's gonna be with me.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: He's and have his eyes on me on all times,
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: and he's not let me do none of that. But also,
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: I've never been really really big into drinking in the
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: party and stuff. I like to just chill in my
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: room and play video games.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: At the end of the day, and that's okay.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm gonna do if I'm in Vegas. That's
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: what I'm doing when I'm at home. That's why I got,
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: you know, a nice mic, a nice little setup over
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Here's that's what I do. So I don't I don't
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: like to pretend I'm somebody I'm not. I don't want
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: to go over there and try to be at the
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: club all crazy. I'm just focused on what I need
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: to and I got all this support, all these people
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: on my back, So why would I, you know.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Mess that up for fun night in Vegas or two.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You know, you'd be surprised. Man, everyone comes in with
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that mindset. It takes a really strong individual to keep that.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Now you've got a good circle around you, so it
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: seems like everybody knows they roll, and everybody's in this
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: for the right thing. So I think you're gonna be
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: all right. But a lot of people, man, you'd be surprised.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: A lot of people come out here with you know, saying, oh,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I'm just here to work, and they can't stay focused.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: But it is very good that you do come here
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and get your work in. Like I said, if you're
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: not in the clubs, you're not in the scene. You're
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: gonna be all right cause a lot of boxers are
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: out here. Not everybody's able to stay here. Some people
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: gotta go back home.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: So it is.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Somebody get eighty six from Vegas, I guess.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Right, not not even you know what, Sometimes the powers
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: that be got to take them out because they're spending
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: to bunch of money and wasting time. Like you're here
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: for work. You're not here for partying, Like this is
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: all work related activities. You're here to stay in shape.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Like you mentioned the spar workout, strategize. It's a business trip,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and a lot of times guys just do not understand that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: So it is good, is refreshing here, someone actually come
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: here and taking care of business.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: That's exactly what I tell everybody when I tell it, Yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be Vegas for a week. I can't do
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: this or whatever. You're like, oh, that sounds fun. I'm like, no,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: this business trip, guys, it's a word trip stall work.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: We're not We're not. I'm not having fun. I always
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: see it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: Oh, just meal preps, small meal preps, saw portions.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: And you know, just just staying on it, trying to
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: maintain a balanced diet and uh eating enough, you know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: making sure you keep your away good.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I guess some more boxing questions, of course,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: but uh you mentioned something that I want to take
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: them to a bit of different direction. Stay at home,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: play video games. You know, I want to know about
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: where your life is outside of the ring. You know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: what what are you playing?
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: For you A PS five guy, Xbox guy? What are
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: you at? What do you like?
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: I have PS five, I played PC. I've mentioned the
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: old games too.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I play just a little bit of everything. I'm I'm
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a big gamer since.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: I was little, so I always I always try to
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: play a little bit of everything nowadays cause I don't
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: want to lose that lose that title. You know that
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: I'm a big gamer, so I gotta stick to it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: And I like card games too. I'll go to the
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: card shops sometimes, play some card games friends or have
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: a good time. Like like I said, I stay out
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: of the drinking at the partying when I'm in especially
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: when I'm in training camp double down, and I just
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: I just use training camps as a way to you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: I got all this time to play video games now
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: when I'm not training.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: So, speaking of that, do you play like are you
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: the kind of places like Call of Duty online or
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: do you like, you know, games that are not online
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: like the Script I like the script story, I like
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: the campaign.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, me too, I like I like single player focused games.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: So every now and then I'll hop on online game
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: with my friends. But I'm a big single player like
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: RPGs and stuff.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Nice. What's it? What's your franchise? Are you a Fallout guy?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I love Fallout?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, Fallout's good.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: I never got too into Fault yet yet, I say,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: because I plan on getting.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Into it eventually. I know it's one of the one
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: of the greatest, you know, franchises.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Part Part three I think is a good one to
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: get into because it's good that one is for p
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: S three, I think, Yeah, but if you go back
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: to that one, that's one of my favorite stories. But yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: so then what are other friends that you're into?
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: What are just like a persona Final Fantasy?
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: A lot of the Japanese ones I really like, uh,
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Eldin Ring obviously can't go wrong with the Souls games.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I want to. I want to.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Those are very hard.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: It was very hard, just a little bit every like,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: like I said, any I try to get any new
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: new new releases coming out and stuff, or I get
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: really big into.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I'm like a casual gamer. Like I'll get super into
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: a game for like a few months and then I
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: won't touch my system for like honestly sometimes a year.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: I use it mostly play four K movies, That's what
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I use.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: But play.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a guy who like I love boxing, you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: my favorite sports, the only sport I really care about.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: But well, ronn it. I can talk me to Gains,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I can talk Star Wars and I hear you're into
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: you said, Cargoons, You're into Magic the Gathering.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, big, big into Magic the Gathering. I go to.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: There's a card shop, like not even a light light
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: down the street from me. So like I'm there Mondays
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: and thursdays of their Magic Night Saga head over there
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: and play Guard games over there with So made a
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: bunch of friends over there.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: It's cool.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: They actually went to my last fight too, a lot
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: of the guys from the shop. So they had a
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: good time over there too.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: It was a good time. They're good friends.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Now nice, Okay, Now I gotta know, So, what's that like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: because you know, I'm a nerd to like I said,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I I do. I do this podcast and then I'm
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: a host on our guest rather on my friends Star
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Wars podcast from time to time. So what's it like
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: for your magic gathering friends to show up to boxing?
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Are they like? Is it cool? And they kind to
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: feel out of place? You know what?
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: They loved it because obviously it is different. They are
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: a little out of place, but that's what makes it
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: so exciting too, I feel like and yeah, they had
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: a great time. They showed up to the after party too.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: They're excited to talk to me about it, and you
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: know they had a good time.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: There's there's a good good amount of them too, so
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: they're all having fun together.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Do you want to give a shout out to the
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: car shop here? You know support the is a local business.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, shout outs to Northern Valley Games. I've been in there.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: You know, that's where I first got my first magic
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: deck from. And they've they've been, you know, help me
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: out the whole trip when I was learning magic.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: North Valley Games. Is that in in Phoenix or there's
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: a location.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: In Phoenix and there's a there's a location of me, so.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Games, I'll check them out. I go to Phoenix pretty
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: pretty often. That was there a couple of weekends ago
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: for a concert, So I'll definitely check them out and
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: we'll see, yeah, pick up some stuff. So uh bringing
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: it back to boxing and James, and you got something
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: because I got something here for you.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So I do. I want to For the fans that
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: don't know, they just tune on the TV and so
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: you walk out the ring, handle business and go home.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But can you give us behind the scenes of a
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: fight day, day of a fight, waking up to getting
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to the arena, can you give us an in depth
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: detail of that whole day?
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: I usually wake up in the mornings, my dad will
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: go to first watch, get a good breakfast. I like
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: a big breakfast before my fight, durd of the day
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: of my fight. Like a big breakfast but healthy, easily digestible.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: I'll have like a Greek yogurt with a bunch of
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: like granola fruits and stuff. And then I'll have a
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: oatmeal too with that decent size too, all of that
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: and then they'll get me nice and.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: Full and then I just eat light the rest of
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: the day until the fight.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Pretty much.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: But yeah, we'll go to have a big breakfast over there,
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: and I come back home, I take a nap, I
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: sleep relax, you know. I try to sleep and take
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: a long as long as of a nap as possible.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Before the fight.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: We usually show up to the venue at like four
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: or five. We get there, we get checked up by
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: the doctor in the back, all that fun stuff, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: then I'm just chilling in the dressing room until the fight.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Really, it's really just a relaxed day and nothing crazy.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Apps. Try to stay focused, try to see opt in.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Awesome. Yeah.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I when I was doing my peak training, I was like, wait,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: weighing food, like had a little weight scale and everything that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I was like, it's wild. I've never done anything like that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: It was kind of it was kind of an experiment,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: but to see like how hardcore I could get into it. Uh,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I fluctuated, you know, the the like
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: the Facebook meme, the thing that the grand piece put
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: up there. It's like nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Okay, Yeah,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: no one thing, bro like that. I agree, no one thing.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: But there's a lot of shit that you could eat
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: a lot.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a big sweet tooth.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: So dieting is one of the hardest things for me
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: because I just I love chocolate.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, do you have a cheat day? Is that depends.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Depends you know, it depends on my on my weight
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: at the time. You know, I just feel it out
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: for how I feel like if if I'm not, if
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: i'm I don't have room for a cheat little snack
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: or something, I won't I won't take it. But if
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: you know, if I'm doing good on weight this week
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: or whatever, I'll have like a little chocolate bar or
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: cookie or something nice.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Great, So probably my last one. But Jameson please jump
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: in so curious you said you don't really think about
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: the future. It's you know, one fight at a time.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not probably I'm gonna assume that you
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: always think about wanting to be a champ, Like you said,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: you know, want to bring about But if there was
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: a call for somebody to cancel the call, is there
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: one name that you're like, I want to take that guy,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: that guy I want to I want to if I
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: think and I could bring him down. Do you have
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: a name?
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: There's no one name, but I will right now if
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: you give me that call anybody at a one hundred
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: and forty pound way class, we're taking that fight, anyone
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: taking that fight, anybody, anybody.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that, you know. It's something so Jamis and
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I here on this show, we we critique the boxing
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: industry and the scene a lot, but it's because we
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: love it. It's because we we love the sport and
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: want it to be better. One common complaint I think
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: this comes up is that the big h aren't fighting
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: often enough. So I we really appreciate you saying you
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: fight three times a year. The biggest names, you know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: they should be fighting more than once a year. Some
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: guys don't even do that. So but what also, but
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: here's the thing. You take a big name, you bring
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: a bill back, are you gonna chill? Are you gonna
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: be like all right, you know I can wait another
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: year or two for a fight, or are you gonna
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: you feel like you're gonna stick to that schedule? Like
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I still want more, I'm still hungry. I'm gonna go
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: out and get it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: I feel like at least owe it to my supporters
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: and my fans to bring at least one or two
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: fights a year, even after I havingable.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Title okay, okay, I'm shooting for two fights a year. Still.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I love that you said if I get a work
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: world You didn't say if I get a world title.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: You said even after I get a world title. So
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: And that's that's awesome, Jims. You got anything else here?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: For a man? I got one last one dream opponent past,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: future present. Is there that one opponent where you either
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: wish you could have fought from yes for a year,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: or wish you could fight going forward that you've always
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: dreamt about or always thought about just in general.
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  Speaker 3: Hmmm, let's see one forty.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think Marquez would be just good to
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: learn off of for me my style. But I feel
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: like you just can't go wrong with with Mayweather. I mean,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: it will be a frustrating fight. I hate fighting them,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: but you'll learn so much off that fight that you
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: know it'll just improve me by you know, so much.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: So I feel like I would I would love to fight.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Mayweather iron iron sharp AND's iron. Yeah, okay, just to
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: quick fall up on that. So you said a frustrating fight,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: you learned a lot, but do you think you could
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: beat them in your prime? And you know, it's prime.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: My prime, may other's prime all to see.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I like I said, I think I could beat anybody
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: right now, but uh, he's one. He's one of the legends,
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: one of the greatest of all time. And you know
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: everybody who said, you know, they've had that that they
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: oh I got I got an answer for him.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I got him. They never came out on top.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: So well, you know, one thing I always say, not
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: just in boxing, but in life, is that we learn
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: more from our losses than we do from our wins.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: So you know, I think, can't be can't be afraid
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: to lose no matter what.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I love that you said earlier, even inspiring, even you
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: you know, seasoned train still get your ass kicked right
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: from time to time, Like, hey, it happens. So but
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: here's the thing about boxing that I love. Boxers not
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: just have to be strong, but they'd be brave and
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: they can't be scared of of a loss, right, what
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: do you think?
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yep?
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: Definitely that's the only way you learn taking risks, and
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: if you can, you know, come out on top on
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: all those risks that you're taking, you're just gonna get
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: so much better off of it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Awesome, awesome, Well, treating won't take up more of your
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: time because I know you've got to train or also
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: get back on the on the PS five. But please
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: tell the people when your next fight is and uh
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: we're when and where it's gonna be.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: April nineteenth at the Celebrity Theater under the Iron Boy Card.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: I'm excited to fight, can't wait to see there.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah? And where can people find you on social media?
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Do you have Instagram? Twitter?
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: What's your Yeah?
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: You find me on Instagram at trainy eight to a
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: spinsram training eight a as in training.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, Chue, I appreciate it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah great, all right, follow training, get tickets to the
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Celebrity Theater. Oh yes.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Any sponsors that you want to shout out or anyone
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: you want to shut out before you head on out.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: It's all my sponsors.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: They're always, you know, showing up, especially Franco, my dad's friend.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: You know, he's one of our biggest sponsors. I'm gonna
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: shout him out by name though this time because he's.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Been happening out a lot.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: I appreciate him and then everything he does for us.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Franco, thank you for helping out with Training's
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: career because he brought us to this show and we
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: really appreciate it. Thank you for being on the Mixed
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Company Podcast, Treating. We are appreciate you. You have no idea
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: and we'd love to have you back and talk about
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: how the fights went after the fact. If that's cool
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: with you, Yeah, for sure.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I'm always done.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Good luck, good luck, good luck to Treating, good
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: luck to Treaty. And I'm gonna finish up really quick
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: here in the Mixed Company Podcast. Jamis the man. That
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: was a great interview. Did you like that? That was amazing?
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I was mad.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I did not wake up thinking we were gonna have
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: that interview. I was prepared for anything.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: It's funny how these things do happen, but I'm glad
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: it did happen. It's very good to find a young
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: fighter that's focused. We always come across a lot of
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: guys that are on BS. I said, I'm not here
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: for twenty years, so I've seen and heard all kinds
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: of different stories about all the different type of people. I've heard
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: stories about Browner, her stories about Sean Porter, which are
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: like opposite, you know what I mean. So you you
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: hear you know, you hear and see a lot of
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: different things, and not.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Everybody comes out here focused like I've seen. You're right
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: out here. You know, people get a.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: House out here, they train out here, but they can't
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: stay out casino or there. Camp, can't stay out in trouble.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: So it's good to see like Pop's got things straight,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you know, boxing that stuff straight. No friction in the camp,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: No no random stories about women I crazy going on.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: It's good to see like, all right, the main thing
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: is the main thing, and we don't have that a
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: whole lot anymore.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Now. I really appreciate that question from me. I guess
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: it's something I never really considered that. You know. Yeah,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: for me, Vegas is like a giant playground. But I
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: don't know, I guess in my mind kind of like
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: you said, you know, think of it like this. Think
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: If you had millions of dollars in your account, you
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: can do whatever you always.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Wanted to do.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: There's no one that can really stop you, and you
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: can get whatever you want at any time. And this
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: is Vegas, so there's no limits on whatever you want.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: If you want a five star dinner at two am.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: It gets done.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: If you want three women that look a certain way,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it gets found. If you want drugs, it gets found.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: If you want liquor, it gets brought to you. So
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: whatever your heart desires, it gets brought to you.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: That's yeah. No, I mean you're absolutely right, And I
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: am aware of that in concept, in theory of course,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: because I don't I wouldn't be able to roll like that.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I guess in my mind, I'm like, well, yeah,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: if you're in Vegas, if you're a big, big name fighter,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be on pay per view, HBO whatever, like
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: you know, you're there to do the thing and you're
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: not gonna let yourself get sidetracked. But that's not true.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: That's actually it's human nature to you know, to just
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: like I said, anything you want, anytime. How it's so
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: how can you say no to that? But I think
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Treey's got a good head on his shoulders. You know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: family is involved, and like you said, you know, for him,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: especially if he fucked this up, you know, he's right
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: back where he was broke, you know, not having trouble
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: finding housing, all that stuff, And I'm sure he doesn't
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: want to go back to that, So.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: He ain't going back to the way he sound, and he
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: ain't going back to that, so he gonna be all right.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's really cool getting not just a profighter,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: a profighter from Arizona. You know I'm representing here.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Arizona is the face of Phoenix box Ship, the face
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: of Arizona Boxing, which.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know that that was really cool and you know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: thank him. I'd like to thank him. I think his promoter,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Emily Gurdin, for setting that up for us. And yeah,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: and the other fighters that want to come on the show.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: We're not going to come at you like, hey, well
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: you fucking you know you should be doing this, you
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: should be doing this, blah blah blah. No, no, no,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: we're here to learn from y'all, and we want the
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: audience to learn from y'all as well.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to promote the good part of boxing.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: The other stuff I don't care about. I don't care
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: about any of the stuff that gets clicks. I want
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: to promote the good stuff, the stuff that boxing fans
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: double upon and be like, I want to learn more
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: about this person. That's what we want to create here.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: We're not trying to create anything pieces or any clickbased stuff.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: We want people to do a deep.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Dive on everyone that we interview, everyone that we come across,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and that's what we're up.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: That's what we're trying to do here. Absolutely so cool. Well,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I think that's a pretty good for today's episode. Jamison,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Where can people find you on social media? At the
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Jamison on Twitter? That's probably the best place.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I don't really do Instagram when it comes to people,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: but on Twitter probably the best place.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: But nah, I'll be watching fights.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Man, got ESPN Plus, got Paramount Plus, got Netflix, Amazon,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the Zone or Dazen whatever it's called. Got a firestick.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: You know the other things that come through the dms
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: and the emails. Were not going to talk about them.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we're gonna watch the fight. So there's a
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: fight home. We're gonna find a way to watch it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Got enough TVs to do so, so we're gonna find
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: a way.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, And for any of your first time listeners, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I started off as a craft beer blogger. I love boxing.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: I love watching it. It's my favorite sport. But I've never
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: said I'm an expert. I would never say that Jamison
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: is a boxing expert. So I want to learn more
• 36:48
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• 36:50
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• 36:54
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• 36:57
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• 37:04
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