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Chloe Gauvin-David - The Clydesdale Media Semifinalist Series · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  I was born to kill it.
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  I was meant to win.
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  I am down and willing,
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  so I will find a way.
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  It took a minute,
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  now it didn't happen right away.
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  When they get hot in the kitchen,
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  you decide to stay.
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  That's how a winner's made.
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  Stick a fork in the hater on
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  my dinner plate.
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  What is going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast,
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  where we are featuring the
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  athletes of the 2024
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  CrossFit Games Semifinals.
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  And I'm so honored and
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  privileged to have with me,
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  and I hope I get this right,
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  Chloe Govan-David.
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  Nailed it.
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  That's perfect.
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  All right, cool.
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  Awesome.
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  Thanks for having me.
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  Yeah, I really appreciate it.
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  Thank you for jumping on with me.
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  I love celebrating the
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  accomplishments of semifinals.
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  I think it goes unrecognized too much,
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  and it's a huge
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  accomplishment to make it this far.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  That's well said.
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  It's so competitive,
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  and just every year it gets
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  more competitive.
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  So getting there is truly, as you say,
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  an accomplishment.
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  Yeah, and in North America East,
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  really a big accomplishment
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  to make that top 40.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's a pretty stacked field.
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  I mean,
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  all the podcasts are talking about it.
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  I mean, Europe and the East.
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  So again, just making it,
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  it's like a huge accomplishment.
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  So happy.
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  Did I hear a rumor that you retired?
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  You heard it right.
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  I think I got maybe like
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  eight DMs after like, are you going?
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  Is this just for fun?
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  Are you trying to get, you know,
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  the strength of feel?
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  Like, why are you there?
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  So I got a bunch of DMs and
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  you got it right.
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  Like retirement, that's what I said.
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  Okay.
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  And here we are.
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  And whatever it is, it is, right?
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  Kind of.
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  Yeah, I guess you could say it that way.
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  I mean, for me,
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  it was more about maybe
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  changing my focus last year
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  and making sure that
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  retirement for me meant
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  I'm not doing what everybody
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  else is doing.
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  So the time in the gym, the priorities,
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  and it was just a shift of focus.
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  And the fact that I'm here is amazing,
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  but it really was about the
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  shift of focus and what I
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  wanted to focus on for the year.
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  And just being here again is just,
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  I would almost say miracle.
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  Well,
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  we'll get into that in a second, but I've,
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  I've talked to other
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  athletes who have really
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  found that when they kind
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  of shift focus and reduce
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  the volume they're under,
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  their bodies are starting
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  to feel much better.
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  And like,
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  I talked to Scott Tetlow in this
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  series and he was like,
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  I feel better this year
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  than I've ever felt.
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  And I really changed my
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  focus to family and our
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  business and less time in the gym.
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  And it's actually become a benefit.
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  Yeah, that's pretty close.
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  I mean, listening to that,
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  it almost hits home.
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  It sounds very,
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  very similar to how I've
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  been taking my year, changing the focus,
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  and then seeing that less volume,
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  your body feels better,
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  as he said and as you've said,
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  and seeing how that affects
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  your performance.
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  And that, yes,
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  feeling better means that
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  when you give it,
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  you can actually give it 100%.
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  So like not having to do any re-dos,
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  really focusing on just
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  doing it once and your
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  body's feeling good.
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  So you don't have to redo
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  because all my elbow or my knee,
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  or I was tired from my other trainings,
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  or there's just nothing
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  that's influencing it.
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  You're just giving your a
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  hundred percent and then
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  seeing where that lies.
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  So for people who don't know,
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  you are a multiple-time games athlete,
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  once as an individual in 2018,
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  and then you shifted focus to team.
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  And your Instagram says three times,
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  CrossFit site says four times.
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  Well, either way, it's pretty impressive.
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  Thanks.
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  Thanks.
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  Um,
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  so why the shift from individual after
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  a successful year,
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  finishing 25th top 25 in
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  the world's pretty
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  impressive and then shifting to team.
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  Yeah, that's a good question.
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  I think it's something
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  actually I've kind of
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  thought about and why did I
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  do that shift in 2019?
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  Um,
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  I would definitely say if I can be candid,
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  2018 was the rookie season
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  and I think everybody has
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  their rookie season differently.
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  Some people have that huge
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  upward trajectory,
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  some people live it and
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  it's almost like a dazed feeling.
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  And I think I was more in the camp of,
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  I was I'll say underprepared.
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  I didn't really have a coach.
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  I was doing it mostly by
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  myself and I qualified.
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  And I feel the coach that
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  was helping me in my day to day,
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  he was almost like my gym
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  coach more than like my personal coach.
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  And we looked at each other
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  in 2018 and said,
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  so you qualified now what?
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  we didn't even have a game
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  plan past regionals.
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  Back then it was regionals.
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  So I just feel like I was underprepared.
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  I lived the games and I kind
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  of had like almost a pit in
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  my stomach of what did I just live?
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  Is that really what I want
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  to continue doing?
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  So a little bit of
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  questioning and wonder
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  mixed with a little bit of, like I said,
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  daze and confuse of what I
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  had just lived.
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  And I just decided that like 2018,
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  I want to see how I've at 2019, sorry,
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  following 2018,
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  I kind of wanted to take a
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  step back and see how I
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  felt about CrossFit, my career.
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  I was also entering teaching at the time.
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  So I feel like it was a
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  mixed form that meant I
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  just had to take a year off.
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  So 2019,
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  I didn't compete in any CrossFit events.
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  Okay.
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  They have you listed on the team in 2019.
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  Were you an alternate?
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  Exactly.
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  So at the time they said, Oh,
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  would you like to just be an alternate?
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  Let's just say something happens.
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  I mean, you will call you,
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  you put your shoes on and
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  you'll show up and you'll,
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  you'll do your best.
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  And I said, I'm up for that.
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  So in your three years on a team,
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  you never finished outside the top 10.
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  That's true.
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  Yep.
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  That is really impressive.
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  And so when I,
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  when I go back and I look
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  through your Instagram researching you,
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  and I mean this in the sincerest way,
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  I couldn't find any holes in what you do.
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  And I know that Instagram is
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  a highlight reel,
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  but you're good on your hands.
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  You lift a lot of weight.
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  Everything seems to be sound.
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  The one thing you can't see
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  is engine or running,
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  but you're a very complete athlete.
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  Well,
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  that's the biggest compliment I think
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  I've ever received.
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  I think that's what CrossFit, right?
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  That's the whole point is
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  trying to be the well-rounded athlete.
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  Like you said, not having any holes.
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  I think that's the major
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  point of conversation,
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  even between coaches and athletes.
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  We have to make sure we are program proof,
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  right?
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  We can show up.
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  And whatever comes out,
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  we're able to tackle it and
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  not be too stressed about it.
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  I would say you're giving me
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  a little bit more credit
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  than maybe I deserve.
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  If you're asking,
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  I would definitely say that
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  strength is my weakness.
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  So more the clean, the front squat,
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  the back squat.
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  Snatch,
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  which is funny because that's
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  what's coming out, is my strongest lift.
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  which is, I mean, great for semifinals,
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  but I would definitely say
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  that a front squat clean, as I said,
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  is definitely something I have worked on.
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  And speaking of that retirement,
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  This past year, I've been doing strength.
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  I was like, I like the strength element.
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  And that's something I
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  haven't been able to
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  develop in my career.
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  It's been something that's held me back.
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  So this year I was like, oh,
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  I'll just do some more
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  lifting and enjoy that part of the sport.
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  And actually I've really
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  made some big gains.
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  And that's probably what
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  you've seen on my Instagram
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  is recently I've posted a
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  lot of lifting because
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  that's been my main focus
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  as an off season, just for fun,
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  because it's something that
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  I actually enjoy doing.
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  Yeah.
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  I, what's coming to mind is, um,
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  three 45s on each side on a back squat,
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  rough math.
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  I'm thinking just over 300 pounds.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, my, my box.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  That's fine.
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  Yeah.
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  And to give it to the other girls though,
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  like some girls can take that and just,
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  you know, go for 10, 10 reps at that,
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  which I like giving people
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  credit where it's due.
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  And if I 300 is one rep,
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  like everything's aligned,
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  the stars are aligned.
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  And I think for other girls,
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  that's just something they
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  can hit on any day, barefoot in shorts,
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  you know?
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  So I'll give credit where it's due,
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  but I've definitely made
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  strength gains and I'm
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  proud of that for myself.
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  You should be proud of that.
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  With what I saw with the
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  pirouettes on your handstands,
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  you pirouetted on a box.
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  Last year at the Games,
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  your seated legless looked good.
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  I could not find holes.
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  So yeah, 300 isn't the heaviest,
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  but when you pair it with
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  what else you can do,
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  I think you're pretty complete.
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  Thank you.
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  I really appreciate that.
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  And looking back,
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  we're the toughest critics as athletes.
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  We just want anything that we can just be,
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  okay, that's not good enough.
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  And you got to go in the gym.
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  And I mean,
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  we really are the toughest
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  critics on ourselves.
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  Yeah.
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  And you need to be right.
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  Self-assessment is key to
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  being successful in this sport.
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  It's that grind,
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  that will to go get that
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  one second where everybody says, oh,
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  that's good enough.
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  And for us, that one second is crucial,
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  right?
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  On a row, on a run, super important.
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  Sarah Cooper,
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  our resident Canadian in the chat.
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  I joined late.
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  Is she competing in the East?
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  Yes, she is.
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  Oh, yes.
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  So you come into the East in
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  13th position.
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  They take 11 spots.
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  For being retired,
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  that's really close to a qualifying spot.
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  Does that add extra pressure
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  to this or are you not
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  letting that factor in?
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  It's hard, right?
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  I think anybody who decides
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  to pay the entrance fee and
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  show up doesn't want to
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  show up and just do it.
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  So I'm not going to say, oh,
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  I'm just going to show up and do it.
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  Of course,
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  I'm going to show up and compete
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  to the 100% that I can give.
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  And that'll be what that'll be.
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  And my personal barometer of
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  what I want to achieve is
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  feel that I gave everything
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  I had in the event.
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  And I think that's cliche,
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  but that's really what I'm
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  trying to hold on to.
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  What am I able to give in this event?
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  And you know it, whether you're, I think,
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  Tia,
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  you know if you've stepped out on the
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  floor and given everything you can,
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  regardless of first or 30th or 40th.
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  So I think for me,
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  that's the most important.
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  And the rankings and the qualifying spot,
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  I mean, it is what it is.
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  Our field is stacked, as we've said.
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  So less about the qualifying
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  spots and more about what I can give.
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  And if it happens, it happens,
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  but it's not necessarily
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  something I'm like writing
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  on a board and really just aiming for.
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  Did I read right that your
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  gym is a pro one in Montreal?
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  So that's the gym.
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  Yeah.
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  That's the gym that I do.
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  I'll do half of my,
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  like half of my training, but I'm also,
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  I own a gym as well.
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  C2 athletics.
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  So I do both.
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  I own that gym,
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  but pro one is definitely
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  where I get more of my like
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  serious training.
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  So I'm also coaching the pro
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  one team that's in the east.
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  So we've been doing a
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  YouTube series of Grind to Greatness,
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  and I've been the head
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  coach along with Fred,
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  who's my assistant coach.
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  So I've been coaching the team,
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  trying to train,
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  trying to juggle all of
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  that all together.
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  Wow.
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  So I didn't even know that.
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  So let's dive down that.
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  How does that work on the weekend?
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  Do you need Fred to take
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  over more of that at the
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  event because you'll be doing individual?
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  Yeah,
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  so that comes with the complexities
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  of the season.
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  So of course being, we'll just say retired,
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  quote unquote.
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  What I mean by retired in my
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  language means I'm not
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  putting the efforts that I
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  usually have put in the
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  last 12 years and what may happen,
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  happen.
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  But I told the team that I
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  would be coaching them and
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  that I would be their main
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  source of like help and strategy.
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  I love strategy.
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  I think that's one of my
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  biggest strengths as an
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  athlete is a strategy.
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  So we've been working on
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  different variations for the workouts.
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  So my priority is still being with them.
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  So Fred will be there.
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  He has the coaches pass
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  since I have my athlete pass.
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  However, we'll be really working together.
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  And if I need to cut my
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  warmup five minutes short, well,
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  that's going to be it
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  because I've really chosen
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  to help that team.
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  And I really want them to make the games.
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  That's definitely my focus.
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  And if the audience doesn't know,
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  you were on move fast,
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  lift heavy last year,
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  fourth place at the games,
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  three times inside the top 10.
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  Like if anybody knows how to
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  prepare a team, it would be Chloe.
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  yeah I i love team I i and I
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  get the bad rap and all the
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  podcasts saying oh should
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  we do away with teams and
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  all that discussion but I
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  truly think there are
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  amazing athletes on the
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  teams and I think it's
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  often overlooked like as
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  you said and I'm not trying
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  to toot my own horn but I
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  went to the games
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  individually in 2018 which
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  is considered one of the
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  hardest years with one of
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  the hardest first days
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  And then I switched to team
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  voluntarily and been in the top 10.
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  So I think it's pretty easy
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  to write off the team athletes,
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  but I think,
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  I think we can hang with the individuals.
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  I just maybe think it's a
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  different venue that we enjoy.
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  Some athletes have done team
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  all their life, basketball, volleyball,
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  soccer, and they just like that stream.
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  It doesn't necessarily mean
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  you're a lesser athlete.
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  It might just mean that you
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  enjoy the team aspect.
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  Like I love warm and I know
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  people usually don't say that, but yeah,
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  The feeling of being on a
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  team and moving an object
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  together and just being one
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  symbiotic unit, I just love that feeling.
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  And it doesn't almost come
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  close to doing it alone.
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  I just love the work.
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  Is your athletic background
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  in team sports?
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  Ironically, no.
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  Yes.
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  Soccer.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Definitely.
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  But my main, main, um,
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  career was gymnast that the,
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  the pair wet background,
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  that's where it comes from.
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  So the gymnastics really
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  high level and did soccer
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  as well on the side as my
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  summer sport that I wanted to enjoy.
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  So I did love soccer, but gymnastics,
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  that individual sport was
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  definitely it for me.
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  And that's perhaps why I
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  went 2018 individually.
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  But then I just fell in love
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  doing team once.
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  I remember the first time I
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  did pro one team,
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  they invited me and they're like, okay,
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  we're gonna do a worm
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  workout from the games.
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  This is the first workout
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  ever that I've touched the worm.
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  They're like,
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  we just wanna see if you can hang.
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  And I remember cleaning the
• 14:49
  worm and turning the wrong side,
• 14:51
  first rep.
• 14:53
  And I just go, okay,
• 14:55
  this is what it's going to be.
• 14:56
  But I mean, as we all do,
• 14:58
  we immediately fall in love
• 14:59
  with like the struggle and
• 15:00
  the want to be better.
• 15:01
  And then I was like, okay,
• 15:02
  I'm sold on team.
• 15:05
  So, you know,
• 15:06
  there is a lot of talk about that.
• 15:09
  What does team have a place?
• 15:11
  And, and I would contend that it's,
• 15:14
  it's great.
• 15:15
  It's just not great on an indoor venue.
• 15:17
  Like it gets,
• 15:18
  if the floor gets too packed
• 15:20
  and it gets confusing and,
• 15:22
  Like when it's outside,
• 15:24
  like when it was on North Park,
• 15:26
  like I thought it was awesome, right?
• 15:28
  Because you can see what
• 15:29
  teams wear and the story is
• 15:32
  easier to see.
• 15:33
  When you're in the Coliseum,
• 15:36
  everybody's jam-packed
• 15:37
  together and it's really
• 15:39
  hard to tell the story.
• 15:40
  And I think that's where
• 15:42
  CrossFit is missing the
• 15:43
  mark some in all of the
• 15:45
  aspects is they forget it
• 15:47
  needs to be a spectator sport.
• 15:50
  Yeah, I agree.
• 15:51
  I totally agree.
• 15:52
  I mean, I remember my mom telling me,
• 15:54
  sometimes I couldn't even
• 15:55
  find you on the floor.
• 15:56
  And I mean, that's my mom.
• 15:58
  It's hard to follow.
• 15:59
  I totally agree.
• 16:00
  And the camera work as well.
• 16:03
  Sometimes the cameramen and
• 16:04
  women don't know what's going on exactly.
• 16:06
  They haven't been briefed.
• 16:08
  So they're trying to catch
• 16:09
  the best stories,
• 16:10
  but they don't necessarily.
• 16:11
  I mean,
• 16:12
  CrossFit did do an effort going
• 16:13
  from six to four to have
• 16:15
  less athletes total on the floor.
• 16:18
  Does it mean we need to cut to three?
• 16:20
  I don't know.
• 16:21
  I'm talking out loud,
• 16:22
  but does it mean three?
• 16:23
  Does it mean, I mean,
• 16:24
  water Palooza just posted
• 16:26
  that there would be
• 16:26
  different styles of events
• 16:28
  on their team roster that
• 16:29
  they want to do.
• 16:30
  So it's like one relay,
• 16:32
  one specialty event.
• 16:34
  Like,
• 16:34
  is this a venue we can maybe go down
• 16:35
  where it's a little bit more predictable,
• 16:38
  but you can also get
• 16:38
  invested in watch and know
• 16:40
  what's coming up.
• 16:41
  Like, okay.
• 16:42
  Captains are going to go up.
• 16:43
  That means, you know,
• 16:44
  Fikowski is going to be against, you know,
• 16:46
  so-and-so.
• 16:47
  And maybe that way you can
• 16:48
  tell the athlete stories as
• 16:50
  well when they're going one-on-one.
• 16:52
  You could say, okay, Chloe,
• 16:53
  who's been to the games?
• 16:54
  And that story might be a
• 16:56
  little bit more interesting
• 16:57
  for people to jump in,
• 16:58
  especially with super teams like NOAA.
• 17:01
  Like now,
• 17:01
  like spectators want to follow
• 17:03
  those athletes that are
• 17:04
  transitioning to teams.
• 17:06
  So all great ideas,
• 17:07
  but we have to see what
• 17:09
  CrossFit wants to do.
• 17:10
  Yeah,
• 17:12
  and this wasn't supposed to be a team
• 17:13
  conversation,
• 17:14
  but I like some of the
• 17:17
  aspects of grid where you
• 17:19
  can have a specialist who
• 17:21
  can highlight what they do really,
• 17:23
  really well.
• 17:24
  And I think if you had a
• 17:26
  team where these two people
• 17:28
  take the floor for this event,
• 17:30
  these two people take it
• 17:31
  for another event,
• 17:32
  there are some four-person events,
• 17:34
  and you mix that up,
• 17:36
  I think it would go a long
• 17:38
  way to make the sport way
• 17:39
  more interesting.
• 17:40
  it doesn't mean it's grid it
• 17:42
  just means you're you're
• 17:44
  changing up the lineup
• 17:46
  occasionally yeah and
• 17:48
  highlighting as you said
• 17:49
  highlighting specialists
• 17:50
  like a tola like a gymnast
• 17:52
  absolutely you want to show
• 17:53
  that and show what the
• 17:54
  sport can do so you're
• 17:56
  really highlighting the
• 17:57
  maximum potential of each
• 17:59
  sphere like that pyramid
• 18:01
  like weightlifting
• 18:01
  gymnastics you're
• 18:02
  highlighting the pyramid
• 18:04
  individually within a team
• 18:06
  so it is still staying true to crossfit
• 18:09
  Like this weekend in Europe,
• 18:10
  you saw Andrea Soberg do
• 18:12
  the handstand run, right?
• 18:14
  Wouldn't it be cool that if
• 18:16
  she was on one team,
• 18:17
  Daniel Brandon's on another,
• 18:19
  and they go head-to-head in
• 18:20
  a handstand run, right?
• 18:22
  Like that's only good for the sport.
• 18:25
  Yes.
• 18:26
  And you can challenge them
• 18:27
  even more knowing you have
• 18:29
  that talent hitting the floor.
• 18:30
  You can really push the
• 18:32
  programming as well in the events because,
• 18:33
  you know,
• 18:34
  it's going to be specialists
• 18:35
  hitting the floor and
• 18:36
  you're not trying to cover the 40,
• 18:38
  the breadth of 40 athletes as well.
• 18:42
  Yeah.
• 18:43
  So back to you,
• 18:45
  you're listed as a proven athlete.
• 18:49
  So why the move to proven athletes?
• 18:52
  Yeah, actually, surprisingly,
• 18:54
  I've been with proven since 2021.
• 18:56
  Okay.
• 18:56
  Yeah.
• 18:58
  But that's okay.
• 18:59
  I don't think I,
• 19:00
  I don't really post a lot
• 19:01
  on Instagram necessarily, or I don't,
• 19:02
  I don't do it because I know,
• 19:04
  like I know Christian has
• 19:06
  his own like programming
• 19:08
  and stuff like that.
• 19:08
  And you're on a team together.
• 19:10
  You just make that assumption.
• 19:11
  You're doing his programming.
• 19:12
  Of course, which is, which is normal.
• 19:14
  It makes, it makes total sense.
• 19:16
  However,
• 19:16
  I live in Canada and they live in
• 19:18
  the U S so I,
• 19:20
  We would,
• 19:21
  I would take a flight and do a lot,
• 19:23
  a lot of traveling for that,
• 19:24
  which I was very happy to do.
• 19:26
  We were all really focused
• 19:27
  on podium and trying to go
• 19:29
  be that top three.
• 19:31
  But when I'm in my gym by myself,
• 19:33
  I'm not necessarily
• 19:34
  following their programming.
• 19:36
  Proven has known me a while
• 19:38
  and their type of
• 19:39
  programming as well suits me.
• 19:41
  I think that's the thing with Proven,
• 19:43
  Mayhem, hard work pays off.
• 19:45
  In my opinion,
• 19:46
  there's not necessarily a better program.
• 19:48
  I just think different
• 19:49
  programs will attack
• 19:50
  certain weaknesses or biases.
• 19:53
  And I think as an athlete,
• 19:54
  you need to find what are your biases and
• 19:56
  And find what program is
• 19:57
  really like highlighting
• 19:58
  and working on those biases.
• 20:00
  So for me,
• 20:01
  it's more strength and being
• 20:02
  consistent in that.
• 20:03
  And I've tried, ma'am,
• 20:04
  I've tried a few and proven
• 20:06
  was really somewhere that I
• 20:07
  felt I was consistently getting better,
• 20:10
  regardless of the style of
• 20:12
  programming that they would
• 20:13
  do year round.
• 20:14
  I would just keep getting better.
• 20:16
  So it just fit with me.
• 20:17
  Do you have a coach there?
• 20:19
  No, no.
• 20:21
  You're just doing the online programming.
• 20:23
  Exactly.
• 20:24
  You got it.
• 20:24
  No, no coach.
• 20:26
  I don't think I've ever had a coach.
• 20:28
  Nope.
• 20:28
  No, my entire career has been,
• 20:30
  I'll say coachless.
• 20:32
  I've had, I mean, nutrition coaches,
• 20:34
  but I've always done things by myself.
• 20:37
  I think that's something I'm proud of.
• 20:38
  I think it's pretty rare.
• 20:39
  I'm completely alone,
• 20:41
  adjusting some programming,
• 20:42
  some volume things,
• 20:43
  like of course proven
• 20:44
  writes down things and I'll check in.
• 20:46
  Um, but I need to adjust for myself.
• 20:49
  If a day you don't feel good
• 20:50
  just because it's written 90%,
• 20:52
  you're going to get injured if you do it.
• 20:53
  So it's been a lot of
• 20:55
  listening to myself and
• 20:56
  seeing how I feel day to
• 20:57
  day and then adjusting there.
• 21:00
  Are you still working as a teacher?
• 21:02
  Right now I'm contractless,
• 21:05
  but I do coach at my gym, but yes,
• 21:08
  I do teach.
• 21:09
  Um, by contract,
• 21:10
  I haven't yet been able to
• 21:11
  find a full-time positions of Quebec.
• 21:14
  I live in Quebec.
• 21:14
  It's very difficult.
• 21:16
  It can take up to five years
• 21:17
  to get your like permanency where you are,
• 21:19
  you know,
• 21:20
  every year you're going to have
• 21:21
  that class.
• 21:22
  So for now it's been
• 21:23
  contract work contacting, okay.
• 21:25
  Six months at this school, secondary level,
• 21:28
  primary level.
• 21:28
  I've been running around
• 21:30
  trying to find my permanency.
• 21:33
  So I don't know if you know this,
• 21:35
  but Carolyn Prevost is a
• 21:36
  co-host of mine on my show.
• 21:39
  And she's a teacher.
• 21:41
  She's a CrossFit Games athlete.
• 21:44
  She talks about how difficult it is.
• 21:47
  Not difficult,
• 21:48
  but it's just a different
• 21:49
  way of doing things because
• 21:51
  of her teaching schedule
• 21:53
  and trying to fit in
• 21:53
  working out and training
• 21:55
  and all of that stuff.
• 21:59
  Is that something you can
• 22:00
  commiserate with her on?
• 22:01
  Absolutely.
• 22:02
  Absolutely.
• 22:03
  Yeah.
• 22:03
  No, she's one of the,
• 22:05
  few left that are not full-time athletes.
• 22:08
  Even Europe,
• 22:09
  I was listening to the commentators,
• 22:10
  and you can hear, you know,
• 22:12
  so-and-so has made the
• 22:13
  switch to being a full-time athlete.
• 22:15
  So-and-so has switched,
• 22:16
  and this full year has a
• 22:18
  coach and is a full-time athlete.
• 22:20
  And I always think of the
• 22:22
  and of this world where I go, wow,
• 22:24
  that's amazing that they're
• 22:25
  at this level with the
• 22:27
  insane schedule that they
• 22:28
  have to maintain,
• 22:30
  where you have no choice
• 22:31
  but to sacrifice some of your recovery,
• 22:34
  Things come up, meetings,
• 22:36
  parent-teacher interviews.
• 22:37
  There's just things you can't move.
• 22:39
  You can ask for time off.
• 22:40
  And of course,
• 22:41
  they're going to adjust your schedule.
• 22:42
  But there's some things in
• 22:43
  the year that are just set
• 22:45
  and you have to do it.
• 22:45
  So the Pribos of this world
• 22:47
  are absolutely amazing.
• 22:48
  And they're showing that
• 22:50
  anything is possible.
• 22:51
  So as we say, no excuses.
• 22:54
  And she takes pride in that.
• 22:56
  She should.
• 22:57
  She absolutely should.
• 22:59
  And it's crazy, like her schedule,
• 23:00
  like she'll leave a
• 23:01
  semifinal right after it's
• 23:04
  done on Sunday to get back
• 23:05
  in time to teach on Monday.
• 23:07
  Yep.
• 23:08
  Like it's insane.
• 23:10
  So much respect for her.
• 23:12
  Exactly.
• 23:13
  No, it's amazing, but it's also inspiring.
• 23:16
  It's one thing to live it and to be proud,
• 23:19
  but it's also inspiring.
• 23:20
  Like I know a lot of people tell me, oh,
• 23:23
  I know I can do it because you do it.
• 23:25
  And you're an inspiration in
• 23:26
  the sense that you don't
• 23:27
  have to put all the eggs in
• 23:29
  one basket to necessarily
• 23:31
  be successful and to be
• 23:32
  able to push your body and
• 23:34
  do the amazing things that we do.
• 23:35
  And I know Prevost is even another level.
• 23:38
  She was doing hockey as well as teaching.
• 23:41
  Like I follow her.
• 23:42
  I know her.
• 23:43
  We're pretty close.
• 23:44
  It's fun.
• 23:45
  We write on Instagram.
• 23:46
  So like, I just can't believe it.
• 23:47
  She's absolutely amazing.
• 23:49
  And she deserves all the
• 23:50
  recognition that I think
• 23:51
  she doesn't necessarily get.
• 23:52
  So it's great that podcasts
• 23:54
  can really highlight that.
• 23:55
  Yeah,
• 23:56
  I love the fact that she came on as a
• 23:59
  co-host because she
• 24:00
  deserves more recognition
• 24:01
  for what she does.
• 24:03
  And hopefully that'll happen.
• 24:04
  And she knows the sport inside out,
• 24:06
  backwards, sideways,
• 24:08
  which is really cool.
• 24:09
  Back to you.
• 24:11
  Since you don't have a coach,
• 24:12
  who gets your coaches banned?
• 24:16
  My mom.
• 24:17
  Okay, didn't take care of.
• 24:21
  Yeah, it's, I mean, my mom and my dad,
• 24:23
  I'm super, super close.
• 24:24
  My family is, we're a very,
• 24:27
  very tight unit.
• 24:28
  So my boyfriend is on the pro one team.
• 24:30
  So it's going to be really a
• 24:31
  family affair.
• 24:32
  So my boyfriend's going to be on the team.
• 24:34
  He's going to be coaching
• 24:35
  him and the team and helping them out.
• 24:37
  My mom is going to have the coaches pass.
• 24:39
  My dad will be able to go
• 24:41
  down into the family section.
• 24:42
  So it's new at Synlica.
• 24:43
  We got the information at
• 24:45
  Syndicate that at the front line,
• 24:47
  it's going to be all the family access.
• 24:49
  So my dad's going to be down there.
• 24:50
  My mom's going to,
• 24:51
  carry my bags.
• 24:53
  Actually,
• 24:53
  my mom made semifinals this year
• 24:55
  in the 65 plus.
• 24:56
  So she's awesome.
• 24:58
  She's a pretty cool athlete.
• 24:59
  So yeah, we, uh, um, we follow the masters,
• 25:04
  um, and we're super,
• 25:05
  we love covering them.
• 25:07
  There's so many cool stories
• 25:08
  in the master's division.
• 25:09
  Yeah.
• 25:10
  Syndicate.
• 25:10
  One thing they do really
• 25:11
  well is that family section.
• 25:13
  Um, it's so cool.
• 25:17
  I didn't know I've been to Atlas games.
• 25:19
  I've been to Orlando, but I had this,
• 25:21
  my first experience at syndicate.
• 25:23
  So when I saw that section,
• 25:24
  I like screenshot it,
• 25:25
  sent it to my parents and said,
• 25:27
  I'm going to see you at the finish line.
• 25:29
  This means we're going to cry.
• 25:30
  Yeah.
• 25:31
  It's so cool.
• 25:32
  They do a great job with that.
• 25:34
  You've seen Europe and Asia
• 25:36
  go this weekend.
• 25:37
  Did you tune in to look and see what,
• 25:39
  what everything looked like
• 25:41
  or is that okay?
• 25:42
  Yeah.
• 25:43
  course firstly I tuned in
• 25:45
  for the team so I had my
• 25:46
  notebook out and was you
• 25:48
  know split times and like
• 25:49
  we didn't know that if you
• 25:50
  put the worm down it would
• 25:52
  be five burpee penalty that
• 25:53
  wasn't mentioned so we're
• 25:55
  really getting all the
• 25:56
  little details the little
• 25:58
  nuances of the workout that
• 26:00
  for myself the handstand
• 26:01
  walk will it be obstacle
• 26:03
  pirouette or just straight
• 26:04
  there and back so just
• 26:05
  looking especially at the
• 26:07
  flow since I don't have a
• 26:08
  coach looking at the flow,
• 26:10
  making sure everything is
• 26:11
  understood by the athlete.
• 26:13
  So it's a it's a two part
• 26:15
  process and then making sure that,
• 26:18
  you know, like, OK,
• 26:18
  what are the times this is what it is?
• 26:21
  OK,
• 26:22
  this means that that transitions a bit
• 26:23
  slower, faster and just
• 26:25
  looking at what I can change,
• 26:26
  but knowing that I'm going
• 26:28
  there to do my best, have fun.
• 26:30
  And that means not stressing
• 26:31
  over someone did 10 minutes.
• 26:33
  It's like, okay, awesome.
• 26:35
  Applaud.
• 26:36
  That's amazing.
• 26:37
  But I'm not trying to take
• 26:38
  too much of it into my
• 26:39
  heart because that's not
• 26:41
  going to help me on the floor.
• 26:43
  it's it's funny with all the
• 26:44
  athletes I've talked to
• 26:45
  through the semi-final
• 26:45
  series like sam quant says
• 26:48
  I he doesn't watch the full
• 26:49
  events it just too much
• 26:51
  pressure for him he'll
• 26:52
  watch to see like how an
• 26:54
  athlete his size handles
• 26:56
  this or what are the what
• 26:58
  are they holding on the row
• 27:00
  or and then he just turns
• 27:02
  it off and walks away
• 27:03
  Just gets the information
• 27:04
  he's trying to get and then he goes away.
• 27:07
  Carolyn is very different.
• 27:08
  She wants to see the whole thing.
• 27:10
  She wants to put a chip on her shoulder.
• 27:12
  She wants like all that stuff.
• 27:15
  So you are someone that it
• 27:17
  sounds like you're so into
• 27:18
  the strategy aspect of this
• 27:21
  that you just need to know all the data.
• 27:22
  Yeah, I'm definitely a data girl.
• 27:25
  Yeah.
• 27:26
  Definitely split times and
• 27:27
  transitions and things like that.
• 27:29
  I think it really helps me
• 27:31
  during the workout,
• 27:31
  especially when you're in
• 27:32
  the moment on the floor, the heart rate,
• 27:35
  the music.
• 27:36
  If you can just focus on the
• 27:38
  little tidbit informations
• 27:39
  that for me makes the stress easier.
• 27:41
  It's on the bike.
• 27:42
  What do you have to do on the bike?
• 27:44
  So I'm not thinking about the box.
• 27:46
  I'm thinking about what's
• 27:46
  happening on the bike.
• 27:47
  And then three steps jump.
• 27:50
  You know, are you going to chalk?
• 27:51
  Are you not going to chalk?
• 27:52
  Where are you going to chalk?
• 27:54
  So again,
• 27:54
  I don't mind giving my strategies
• 27:56
  because again, I'm having fun,
• 27:59
  but just trying to split.
• 28:00
  So when you go on the floor,
• 28:01
  it's just like an execution
• 28:02
  at this point.
• 28:03
  You're not saying, oh yeah,
• 28:04
  I should have talked.
• 28:05
  Well, it's not even a question for me.
• 28:07
  Everything is already mapped
• 28:08
  out and laid out in my brain.
• 28:11
  So, you know, the old saying,
• 28:12
  everybody has a plan until
• 28:13
  they get punched in the face.
• 28:15
  Does that ever happen to you?
• 28:20
  Anything is possible.
• 28:21
  And I would definitely say team.
• 28:22
  Team is where things get
• 28:24
  really interesting because
• 28:26
  it's a four person breakdown potential.
• 28:29
  So when you're by yourself,
• 28:30
  it's you might break down.
• 28:32
  But when you're four,
• 28:33
  it's knowing you might
• 28:34
  break down or the three
• 28:36
  others might break down at
• 28:37
  different times.
• 28:39
  And I think that's as a team,
• 28:40
  it's really important to
• 28:42
  step out of yourself.
• 28:44
  And actually,
• 28:44
  it's completely different
• 28:46
  than individually.
• 28:47
  So when I'm team,
• 28:48
  I'm actually outside of my body,
• 28:50
  only looking at the team.
• 28:51
  And I've been captain mostly in my team,
• 28:53
  except for move fast.
• 28:54
  It was Chris Harris.
• 28:56
  But during the program team,
• 28:57
  it's really about analyzing
• 28:59
  everybody else.
• 29:00
  OK, he's bent over.
• 29:01
  What does that mean?
• 29:02
  Her hands are on her knees.
• 29:03
  What does that mean?
• 29:04
  So I know my whole team and
• 29:05
  their body language.
• 29:06
  But individually,
• 29:07
  it's your own body language
• 29:09
  and how you're feeling.
• 29:10
  So, I mean,
• 29:10
  of course it's happened before.
• 29:11
  2018, right?
• 29:13
  I was against Prevost.
• 29:15
  You probably know the story
• 29:16
  with the four point
• 29:17
  difference that I ended up qualifying,
• 29:20
  but I didn't even finish a
• 29:21
  legless rope climb event.
• 29:23
  So my legless rope climbs
• 29:24
  were not good at that time.
• 29:25
  And I just stood under the rope.
• 29:28
  I had like an 80 point gap.
• 29:30
  And Prevo and I at the end were like,
• 29:32
  we don't even know who, it was so tight.
• 29:34
  We didn't even know.
• 29:35
  And then four point
• 29:36
  difference made it that it was me.
• 29:38
  So I've been punched in the
• 29:39
  face a few times.
• 29:40
  Yeah.
• 29:42
  So, and,
• 29:43
  and what's funny is when I watched
• 29:46
  your seated legless at the
• 29:48
  games last year and going
• 29:49
  back to your Instagram,
• 29:50
  you had had an elbow
• 29:51
  surgery prior to that.
• 29:53
  And so I think your post was like,
• 29:55
  you were really worried
• 29:56
  about that aspect of it,
• 29:58
  but it went much easier
• 29:59
  than you even anticipated.
• 30:01
  Yeah, exactly.
• 30:02
  I think the one moment, actually,
• 30:04
  my mom asked me last year,
• 30:05
  what was your favorite
• 30:06
  moment of semi of the games?
• 30:08
  And it's a ridiculous moment,
• 30:09
  but I remember going on the mat,
• 30:11
  doing my seated legless last round.
• 30:14
  I'm against men and women coming down.
• 30:16
  And my dad has a photo.
• 30:17
  I'm the first off.
• 30:19
  I'm just standing,
• 30:19
  waiting for Chris to finish his ski,
• 30:21
  which makes sense.
• 30:22
  The ski was longer.
• 30:22
  And I'm just standing like,
• 30:25
  I finished my legless first.
• 30:28
  This is a huge accomplishment for me,
• 30:30
  which again, every athlete is different.
• 30:32
  I just remember that 2018
• 30:34
  looking at the rope,
• 30:36
  almost wanting to cry and
• 30:37
  now seated at the games on
• 30:40
  a crash mat and just crushing it.
• 30:42
  I mean, for me,
• 30:42
  that's the biggest win I
• 30:44
  could have as an athlete.
• 30:46
  Isn't it cool that like,
• 30:47
  whether you're an athlete,
• 30:48
  an average Joe in the gym
• 30:50
  or a CrossFit Games athlete,
• 30:52
  you can have those moments
• 30:54
  where you've overcome
• 30:55
  something and like the joy
• 30:58
  from that is just immense.
• 31:01
  Exactly right.
• 31:01
  CrossFit varies from degree, not kind.
• 31:04
  It's the same thing for that.
• 31:05
  I mean,
• 31:06
  ringing the bell of a PR from the
• 31:08
  empty bar to the legless is
• 31:10
  that same exact feeling.
• 31:11
  And it's just awesome.
• 31:13
  And getting the athlete that
• 31:14
  I coach to understand that
• 31:16
  at first nobody wants to ring the bell.
• 31:17
  I'm like, go ring the bell.
• 31:18
  And they're like, I just did a box jump.
• 31:21
  Like, yeah,
• 31:21
  you've been trying for three months.
• 31:23
  Oh, but it's, it's not like you.
• 31:25
  And I'm like, it is like me.
• 31:27
  It's the same thing.
• 31:28
  You're not leaving the gym
• 31:29
  until you ring the bell.
• 31:31
  And then like, once they do it,
• 31:32
  they get it.
• 31:32
  And everybody claps in the gym.
• 31:34
  And it's just,
• 31:35
  it's such a wonderful thing that,
• 31:37
  My mom's favorite sentence, as you can see,
• 31:39
  I speak often about my mom,
• 31:41
  but I see her every day in
• 31:42
  the gym and she says,
• 31:43
  CrossFit gets me in tune
• 31:46
  with my own like superpower,
• 31:47
  my own superhuman.
• 31:50
  She's like,
• 31:50
  I would have never been on my
• 31:51
  hands in another place in my life.
• 31:53
  And now CrossFit,
• 31:54
  I'm doing handstand pushups.
• 31:56
  It's like your own
• 31:57
  extraordinariness is
• 31:58
  discovered through CrossFit.
• 31:59
  It's just, it's so beautiful.
• 32:01
  Yeah.
• 32:02
  And it makes it,
• 32:03
  it makes the sport so
• 32:04
  relatable to anybody who
• 32:05
  walks into a box.
• 32:08
  Because they can watch and go, oh my gosh,
• 32:10
  they PR'd.
• 32:11
  I know that feeling.
• 32:13
  Yep.
• 32:14
  Yep.
• 32:14
  That's, that's why the lifting event,
• 32:16
  in my opinion,
• 32:17
  gets the most like crowd
• 32:19
  going crazy because
• 32:21
  everybody can identify with that.
• 32:24
  Like, yes, of course,
• 32:25
  workouts are workouts,
• 32:26
  but the crowd gets fired up
• 32:28
  because they know stepping
• 32:29
  up to the bar hand to hand.
• 32:31
  And like just the rush that you get,
• 32:34
  everybody can identify with that.
• 32:35
  And I think that's why those
• 32:36
  lifting events just get the crowd going.
• 32:38
  It's just wild.
• 32:39
  I can't wait for that event.
• 32:41
  Well, and that's what I want to,
• 32:42
  I kind of want to end on is you're OG.
• 32:45
  So you did the snatch ladder
• 32:48
  in 2016 at regionals.
• 32:52
  Now you get to redo it.
• 32:53
  How excited are you to see
• 32:55
  how far you've come from 2016 to today?
• 33:00
  Yeah, I saw known and knowable, right?
• 33:02
  Mark Halpin,
• 33:03
  he posted which athletes had
• 33:04
  done it in 2016.
• 33:05
  And I was like, wow, okay,
• 33:07
  there's not that many
• 33:08
  athletes left that had
• 33:09
  taken on that 2016 ladder.
• 33:11
  I mean, for me, it's more redemption.
• 33:13
  I think that's gonna be the
• 33:15
  word to associate with
• 33:16
  Chloe's redemption because
• 33:17
  my elbow surgery was that
• 33:19
  year and it was snatches.
• 33:22
  And I snapped my elbow on a snatch.
• 33:25
  So that 2016 was really, really,
• 33:29
  really rough.
• 33:30
  I finished the ladder,
• 33:31
  which already is amazing
• 33:33
  with that torn elbow.
• 33:34
  And I just remember going
• 33:36
  through it saying, okay,
• 33:38
  I hope I'll be okay.
• 33:40
  I hope I'll be okay.
• 33:41
  I finished it and I was so proud.
• 33:43
  And this year it's about attacking it.
• 33:46
  It's such a different,
• 33:47
  completely different vibe.
• 33:48
  Now it's how many seconds can I save?
• 33:51
  How am I going to walk to the bar?
• 33:52
  So back to strategy,
• 33:53
  but just that mindset
• 33:54
  difference just shows the
• 33:56
  difference that we've
• 33:57
  evolved in CrossFit.
• 33:58
  Just watching the Europe.
• 33:59
  It was amazing to see the,
• 34:01
  all the times fall and
• 34:02
  seeing the huge difference
• 34:04
  between Matt Frazier.
• 34:05
  They showed him doing it.
• 34:06
  And then today.
• 34:08
  It's amazing.
• 34:08
  So I can't wait to just do
• 34:09
  it and then have that
• 34:11
  thought of remembering, wow,
• 34:13
  I was scared to do it.
• 34:14
  And now I'm just like crushing it.
• 34:16
  It's awesome.
• 34:17
  So what's more impressive
• 34:19
  that Matt Fraser's record
• 34:21
  got beat by 30 seconds or
• 34:24
  that only three people beat
• 34:25
  Matt Fraser eight years later?
• 34:29
  Definitely Matt Frazier 2016.
• 34:30
  I mean, there's not even a contest.
• 34:33
  There's not even a contest.
• 34:35
  I mean, that was just, I was in the East,
• 34:38
  right?
• 34:38
  I was in the venue when he did it.
• 34:41
  And I remember just
• 34:41
  everybody was just jaw dropped.
• 34:44
  Nobody even knew what to say
• 34:45
  at that point.
• 34:45
  It was so amazing.
• 34:47
  But definitely watching
• 34:48
  Europe do it is awesome.
• 34:49
  But you just remember how
• 34:50
  amazing Matt Frazier was at what he does.
• 34:53
  And I feel like, hey,
• 34:54
  we should have rolled out a barbell.
• 34:55
  He was there.
• 34:56
  We should have asked him to do it.
• 34:57
  Yeah.
• 34:58
  Just kidding.
• 34:58
  Just kidding.
• 34:59
  So everybody's been saying like in 16,
• 35:03
  it was the first event.
• 35:05
  Yes.
• 35:05
  This year it's the fifth
• 35:07
  event and people are like,
• 35:08
  people are going to be tired,
• 35:09
  not sure about the times.
• 35:12
  And then world records get
• 35:13
  broke on both sides of the table.
• 35:16
  And Elisa Fuliano out of
• 35:19
  nowhere wins that event and
• 35:22
  breaks the record by a lot.
• 35:27
  Yeah,
• 35:27
  it was definitely her two bars at one
• 35:31
  75 where I think those were the fastest,
• 35:33
  almost doubles that she hit
• 35:34
  through the whole cycle.
• 35:36
  She rolled the bar.
• 35:37
  And I even remember when
• 35:38
  they were talking about Laura, they said,
• 35:39
  Elisa Foliano,
• 35:41
  she loaded that barbell and
• 35:42
  hit two bars in,
• 35:43
  I think he said like eight, 40,
• 35:45
  30 seconds,
• 35:46
  which is huge when we're
• 35:48
  talking about so close to your,
• 35:49
  so close to your PR.
• 35:51
  That was the most impressive
• 35:52
  moment watching her is just
• 35:53
  doing that double so fast
• 35:55
  under that fatigue, the stress.
• 35:57
  And like you said, fifth event in,
• 35:58
  it was just amazing.
• 36:00
  Yeah, I think, you know,
• 36:02
  if you've CrossFitted for any time at all,
• 36:04
  you hear the term smooth as fast.
• 36:07
  And if you look that up,
• 36:08
  I think her take on that
• 36:11
  ladder was smooth as fast.
• 36:14
  Absolutely.
• 36:15
  Absolutely.
• 36:15
  She just, she flew without being panicked,
• 36:18
  without, it was just bar, bar, bar.
• 36:21
  And the speed at which she
• 36:23
  would exit the overhead
• 36:24
  squat for me was the
• 36:25
  biggest indicator she caught.
• 36:27
  But the speed out of the squat,
• 36:29
  even at 135, I was like, okay,
• 36:31
  this is another level.
• 36:32
  Yeah.
• 36:35
  So let's finish up with this.
• 36:38
  I know you're just there to have fun.
• 36:41
  And your goal is just to, to do the best,
• 36:44
  have the best weekend you can have.
• 36:46
  Right.
• 36:46
  Yeah.
• 36:48
  Um, any other goals for the weekend?
• 36:52
  Yeah, I would firstly say,
• 36:55
  and I know this is probably
• 36:57
  not the answer you want, but the team,
• 36:58
  I really want the team to qualify.
• 37:01
  We've put so much energy and
• 37:02
  time that that's really what I'm,
• 37:04
  I'll be the happiest the
• 37:06
  moment they qualify.
• 37:06
  And it's great because
• 37:07
  Saturday they're done.
• 37:09
  So Saturday it's done.
• 37:11
  They get to qualify.
• 37:12
  We move on.
• 37:13
  And then Sunday I get to
• 37:14
  tackle on half of the events, right?
• 37:16
  It's moving Sunday.
• 37:17
  It's not moving Saturday this year.
• 37:20
  And I think using that Sunday to enjoy.
• 37:22
  I think Friday and Saturday,
• 37:24
  I'll be really focused, team myself,
• 37:26
  team myself.
• 37:28
  And then Sunday,
• 37:29
  I'll get to really just
• 37:30
  take on those three events
• 37:31
  with having only my focus
• 37:33
  and having them be in the
• 37:34
  stands and cheer me on.
• 37:35
  So I really want to take
• 37:36
  those three next events,
• 37:37
  and those are my best, I would say,
• 37:39
  more of the inverted shoulder stamina,
• 37:41
  which is more what I'm known for.
• 37:44
  So taking those on with a sense of urgency,
• 37:47
  being able to compete those
• 37:48
  last three events,
• 37:49
  I'll be satisfied knowing I
• 37:51
  went in with a little bit of hunger.
• 37:54
  That's what I'll be
• 37:55
  satisfied knowing at the
• 37:56
  end of the weekend.
• 37:58
  I'm really bad at keeping
• 37:59
  these to 30 minutes,
• 38:00
  but you bring up one point.
• 38:02
  You bring up one point.
• 38:04
  And then we'll let you go.
• 38:05
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 38:06
  No problem.
• 38:07
  All the years you've been doing regionals,
• 38:10
  semifinals,
• 38:11
  that half the events are on the last day.
• 38:16
  That is something completely unique.
• 38:19
  And it seemed to play a
• 38:21
  pretty big role in Europe
• 38:23
  and Asia where that last
• 38:25
  event people just were wore out.
• 38:30
  In your strategy and in your notes,
• 38:32
  I'm sure you've taken stuff
• 38:33
  down about that on Sunday.
• 38:35
  How do you prepare to be
• 38:37
  fueled and be able to get
• 38:39
  through all those events?
• 38:39
  Or is that games experience
• 38:42
  where things like that
• 38:43
  happen help you in this?
• 38:46
  Yeah, no,
• 38:47
  that's definitely a good question.
• 38:48
  I would definitely say the
• 38:50
  experience helps.
• 38:51
  I've been fueling and
• 38:53
  preparing and living those
• 38:55
  long weekends since, let's say, 2015,
• 38:57
  which is my first regionals.
• 38:59
  So I would definitely say
• 39:00
  just using experience.
• 39:02
  I know what foods agree with me,
• 39:04
  what gives me the best fuel, how I feel,
• 39:07
  how I perform.
• 39:09
  I also lived the 2018 first
• 39:10
  day with the marathon row.
• 39:11
  I definitely learned how to fuel.
• 39:14
  That was definitely a
• 39:16
  learning experience for myself.
• 39:17
  So I would definitely say
• 39:19
  earlier is better.
• 39:20
  I think even the week of,
• 39:22
  I'm already preparing.
• 39:23
  So Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 39:25
  there was already some fueling tactics,
• 39:27
  some carb loading and et cetera.
• 39:29
  Then obviously after the run,
• 39:30
  what do you need after a
• 39:32
  long run versus what do you
• 39:33
  need after like a short event?
• 39:35
  So really focusing on that
• 39:36
  is definitely super important.
• 39:39
  But definitely thinking earlier.
• 39:41
  I think athletes wait the day to day.
• 39:43
  It's like, okay, I'll take my BCAs.
• 39:44
  I'll take my stuff after.
• 39:46
  But thinking earlier than that.
• 39:49
  You should almost be
• 39:49
  entering your first day
• 39:52
  feeling almost too full,
• 39:54
  too really like fueled.
• 39:57
  And then letting that ride
• 39:58
  out towards your Sunday and
• 40:00
  definitely sleep.
• 40:01
  Sleep, sleep, sleep,
• 40:03
  sleep is the... For rookies,
• 40:05
  I remember my first year, you can't sleep,
• 40:08
  you're tossing and turning.
• 40:09
  So finding strategies to be
• 40:10
  able to sleep and turn off is huge, huge.
• 40:16
  Well, Chloe,
• 40:17
  I cannot express how much fun
• 40:18
  this has been getting to chat with you.
• 40:21
  Thank you.
• 40:23
  I love the way your mind works.
• 40:24
  I love the way that you explain things.
• 40:27
  This has been a blast.
• 40:29
  Thank you so much.
• 40:32
  I haven't had many opportunities.
• 40:33
  I really appreciate it.
• 40:34
  When you reached out,
• 40:35
  I was so excited to do it.
• 40:36
  So thank you for thinking of me,
• 40:38
  even as a retired athlete.
• 40:41
  With that, I don't think you're retired,
• 40:44
  but that's okay.
• 40:45
  Call it whatever you will.
• 40:47
  Thank you to everybody in
• 40:48
  the chat for being here.
• 40:48
  This has been a blast.
• 40:50
  Thank you to Chloe for doing this.
• 40:52
  And we'll see everybody next
• 40:53
  time on the Clydesdale Media Podcast,
• 40:56
  where we are featuring the
• 40:56
  athletes of the 2024
• 40:58
  CrossFit Games Semifinals.
• 41:00
  Thank you, everybody.
• 41:01
  See you.