Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #651 I'll Do Better Tomorrow
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.
- 0:05Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Time poor parent who just wants answers.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Now. They told me that sometimes they feel rejected. They
- 0:13Speaker 2: feel mostly accepted, but every now and again they feel rejected.
- 0:15Speaker 1: And it was just that.
- 0:16Speaker 2: I guess uppercut was like the little punch to the
- 0:20Speaker 2: chops that reminded me that it's really hard to get
- 0:23Speaker 2: this right all the time.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum
- 0:27Speaker 1: and dad.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Well, the countdown to school holidays is on. In fact,
- 0:31Speaker 2: in Queensland, a whole lot of schools, including the public
- 0:33Speaker 2: school just down the road from us, on holidays already,
- 0:37Speaker 2: our kids, they're breathing a sigh of relief for the
- 0:40Speaker 2: next six weeks. No more school I think New South Wales, Victoria,
- 0:44Speaker 2: most states have got two weeks to go today, Kylie,
- 0:47Speaker 2: But I guess things are started to slow down, class parties.
- 0:51Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you about something from a
- 0:53Speaker 2: school not far from us, Budroom on the Sunshine Coast.
- 0:56Speaker 2: There was a news article that appeared just recently that
- 1:00Speaker 2: caught my eye. I thought, oh my goodness, what's going
- 1:03Speaker 2: on here? Sunshine Coast Primary school cracks down on candy
- 1:07Speaker 2: canes in Christmas cards a Sunshine Coast school. According to
- 1:11Speaker 2: ABC dot AU news site, these requesting parents refrained from
- 1:16Speaker 2: including candy canes in Christmas cards. Budroom Mountain State School
- 1:19Speaker 2: Deputy Principal Michael Allen send an email with the request
- 1:23Speaker 2: to all parents, saying we have a lot of parents
- 1:25Speaker 2: who do not wish for their children to access lollies
- 1:28Speaker 2: during the school day. The email cited dental and health
- 1:32Speaker 2: concerns for the request, quote, students may start eating them
- 1:35Speaker 2: early in the morning, and as they contain a lot
- 1:37Speaker 2: of sugar, this is not ideal from a dental high
- 1:39Speaker 2: giene perspective. As you would also be aware, increased sugar
- 1:43Speaker 2: levels for some students can affect their ability to make
- 1:45Speaker 2: appropriate behavior choices and engage productively in learning. If different
- 1:48Speaker 2: students bring in cards on different days over the two
- 1:51Speaker 2: week periods, students could potentially be receiving and eating candy
- 1:54Speaker 2: canes every day. So before we do our old do
- 1:57Speaker 2: better tomorrow. I'm curious about your reaction to the hundred
- 2:00Speaker 2: Mountain State School request that candy canes not be brought
- 2:04Speaker 2: into school by the kids for all of their classmates. Yeay,
- 2:07Speaker 2: or a fair or excessive. Is it like peak twenty
- 2:10Speaker 2: twenty two or are you kind of cool with it?
- 2:15Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of an over reach. You do, yeah,
- 2:18Speaker 1: I do. Go on, So, I don't do candy canes
- 2:21Speaker 1: with the.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Kids at all because they get so many of them anyway, No, because.
- 2:26Speaker 1: They don't like them. But you're not a home with
- 2:29Speaker 1: all of these candy cakes that they don't like or
- 2:31Speaker 1: they don't want. And lots of children don't like peppermint
- 2:34Speaker 1: flavored candy. And because obviously we try really hard to
- 2:38Speaker 1: not I guess encourage candy. Over the years, I found
- 2:42Speaker 1: different ways to do things. So one year I just
- 2:44Speaker 1: did super dupers, but I didn't freeze them, so they
- 2:46Speaker 1: had to go home.
- 2:47Speaker 2: I remember that.
- 2:48Speaker 1: But the old it worked for the younger kids, But
- 2:51Speaker 1: the older kids they're really clever, right, They just hoed
- 2:54Speaker 1: into it and just drank it.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Can you imagine drinking a warm so they people work
- 2:59Speaker 2: for the older kids, but for the younger kids, and
- 3:00Speaker 2: did it delayed and met Mum and dad got to
- 3:02Speaker 2: decide when and how they received it. That's so creative, though,
- 3:06Speaker 2: Can I just pause on that? Like you've said it
- 3:08Speaker 2: so flippantly, But if we don't want to just do
- 3:11Speaker 2: what everyone else is doing. We can still do something
- 3:12Speaker 2: fun and sending a little Christmas card with a zuper
- 3:15Speaker 2: duper and these kids were stoked.
- 3:18Speaker 1: And they just made a little take that said thanks
- 3:20Speaker 1: for helping make twenty twenty one or whatever it was
- 3:22Speaker 1: Zooper duperrols. Yeah, you know, just fun little things because
- 3:26Speaker 1: our children naturally want to give, and so that's actually
- 3:31Speaker 1: been the joy of the Christmas lead up with the
- 3:36Speaker 1: kids is working out what they can give to their friends.
- 3:39Speaker 1: So this year Miss eight found elf on the shelf. Yeah,
- 3:43Speaker 1: she's been watching all of her friends and you know
- 3:46Speaker 1: all the talk about it, and she really really wanted one.
- 3:49Speaker 1: And thankfully we were in the junk shop, so it
- 3:51Speaker 1: wasn't your trademarked elf on the shelf. Doonet cost me
- 3:54Speaker 1: a few dollars.
- 3:55Speaker 2: I didn't know that they were expensive. I just figured
- 3:57Speaker 2: that there was some joctive. I do is for an
- 4:00Speaker 2: elf on the shelf.
- 4:02Speaker 1: I can't get a boy or a girl anyway, I digress.
- 4:04Speaker 1: So she wanted this elf on the shelf. So I
- 4:07Speaker 1: said to her, the only way we could have an
- 4:09Speaker 1: elf on the shelf as if she was Sanda's helper,
- 4:12Speaker 1: which she readily agreed to. Okay, But while we were there,
- 4:15Speaker 1: we found these little straws, curly straws with two little
- 4:18Speaker 1: olves giving each other a hug, and I thought, how
- 4:20Speaker 1: cool to give your friends something that's a bit christmasy,
- 4:24Speaker 1: but it doesn't really contain any sugar. So this year
- 4:26Speaker 1: she gave them little straws with two little olts on them.
- 4:28Speaker 2: And what I love about what you've said is the creativity.
- 4:31Speaker 2: So you're a little you're suggesting that the school is
- 4:34Speaker 2: a little bit over the top. In suggesting this, I'm
- 4:36Speaker 2: actually kind of sympathetic to it because I don't want
- 4:38Speaker 2: my kids eating excessive junk food. Those candy cane I mean,
- 4:41Speaker 2: the quality of that food. It's not even food, it's
- 4:44Speaker 2: just a pauing.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Well, I guess after reading that sugar book, it's just
- 4:47Speaker 1: highlighted pretty much most of the lunch boxes have.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Fully full of sugar.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Anyways, as well, we're getting upset about, you know, the
- 4:55Speaker 1: things that we know are full of sugar, but we're
- 4:57Speaker 1: actually oblivious to all the hidden sugar in out children
- 5:00Speaker 1: are eating every day of the week.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I'm with you mostly though, And
- 5:04Speaker 2: that is I reckon. It's a little bit harsh primary
- 5:06Speaker 2: school kids. Like you said, they want to give. But
- 5:08Speaker 2: I love what you've said in that we can just
- 5:10Speaker 2: be creative. Whether it's thanks for a Zooper DOOPI year
- 5:14Speaker 2: or the straws or whatever it might be. There are
- 5:16Speaker 2: so many different ways that we can give out cards
- 5:18Speaker 2: and give a little treat of some kind that may
- 5:21Speaker 2: or may not contain sugary stuff. But at the end
- 5:23Speaker 2: of the day, I also think they're kids, right, Like
- 5:26Speaker 2: they're kids. They're going to eat so much sugar and crappy, junkie,
- 5:30Speaker 2: rubbishy stuff over the next few weeks. What does it
- 5:33Speaker 2: really matter if they get stuck into a few candy
- 5:35Speaker 2: canes And like you said, they don't really love them
- 5:37Speaker 2: that much anyway, do they, although they still eat them.
- 5:39Speaker 1: They did the article acknowledge the divide in the community.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like most parents sort of strugg their shoulder.
- 5:47Speaker 2: So there's a dietician at the school who got right
- 5:49Speaker 2: behind and said, yeah, absolutely, it's a good thing. And
- 5:51Speaker 2: there are a few parents like, oh, it's a bit
- 5:53Speaker 2: of a shame, but yeah, whatever, So I don't think
- 5:54Speaker 2: anyone's really up in arms. It didn't make front page
- 5:57Speaker 2: headlines or anything. But it caught my attention just because
- 6:00Speaker 2: it's one of those things where as we're becoming more
- 6:02Speaker 2: health conscious, more environmentally conscious, as the community, as our
- 6:05Speaker 2: society is looking for ways that we can improve the
- 6:08Speaker 2: world and improve humanity and improve ourselves. Candy canes at
- 6:11Speaker 2: Christmas in schools the next time the chopping block, and
- 6:14Speaker 2: I thought it was worthy of note. We'd love to
- 6:16Speaker 2: know what you think podcasts as podcasts with an s
- 6:19Speaker 2: at Happy Families dot com. Dot U has Budroom Mountain
- 6:22Speaker 2: States called gone too far or do you reckon? It's
- 6:25Speaker 2: fair enough? We would love to know your thoughts. Now.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Every Friday, we have an episode called I'll Do Better
- 6:33Speaker 2: Tomorrow where we analyze the week that was and try
- 6:36Speaker 2: to work out if we can be better parents. So
- 6:37Speaker 2: if we're doing it really well, kicking goals doing let's
- 6:40Speaker 2: just nailing our parenting, and Kylie, what's your I'll do
- 6:43Speaker 2: better Tomorrow for the week that was?
- 6:46Speaker 1: Well? Without you knowing it, your lead into today's podcast
- 6:49Speaker 1: is actually a beautiful segue for my I'll do Better Tomorrow? Okay,
- 6:55Speaker 1: It really is just about celebrating the small wins that
- 6:57Speaker 1: we have so often, I know, I personally get so
- 7:02Speaker 1: caught up in the day to day running of family
- 7:05Speaker 1: life that I often miss those little gems, these little
- 7:08Speaker 1: moments where if I just took a few deep breaths,
- 7:13Speaker 1: I could see just how much progress has actually taken place.
- 7:17Speaker 1: So Christmas is one hundred percent my favorite celebration of
- 7:21Speaker 1: the year. Probably Valentine's would be my next. And I
- 7:24Speaker 1: love doing things with the kids, and they love being
- 7:26Speaker 1: able to give things to their friends and their teachers,
- 7:29Speaker 1: and so it kind of becomes a whole production for
- 7:32Speaker 1: a few days and weeks in early November to try
- 7:36Speaker 1: and get it all worked out with them. But Miss
- 7:39Speaker 1: em she's eight, and usually she gets quite bored. She's
- 7:43Speaker 1: excited in the beginning, and then I ask her to
- 7:45Speaker 1: help and she kind of rolls her eyes and like, oh,
- 7:48Speaker 1: can I come back later, And by the time she
- 7:49Speaker 1: comes back, I'm done because I'm wan a roll. And
- 7:53Speaker 1: so this year I said to her, she wanted to
- 7:56Speaker 1: give to four different teachers. So she has two teachers
- 7:58Speaker 1: in her classrooms, but then she has a teacher aide,
- 8:00Speaker 1: did a couple of teacher aids that come in, And
- 8:03Speaker 1: so I said to WILLI are you going to write
- 8:05Speaker 1: letters to them, and she said yeah, And I said,
- 8:06Speaker 1: would you like some help? And she said, if you
- 8:08Speaker 1: could just write the big words out so that I
- 8:09Speaker 1: can copy those. And I said, well, if you just
- 8:12Speaker 1: do a template, you could write the same letter for
- 8:14Speaker 1: every teacher and just change the name to make it easy. Well,
- 8:17Speaker 1: she didn't take the easy road this year. Normally she
- 8:20Speaker 1: doesn't actually write the cards at all. She'll just do
- 8:22Speaker 1: love Emily and maybe draw a picture next to it.
- 8:25Speaker 1: But this year she was really thoughtful about the teachers
- 8:27Speaker 1: and the things that they had done for her, and
- 8:29Speaker 1: she actually personalized each letter, each little card for them
- 8:35Speaker 1: and filmed them up and then drew a picture that
- 8:37Speaker 1: she thought that teacher would love, so they were all different.
- 8:40Speaker 1: It's such a small thing, but it was just so
- 8:43Speaker 1: beautiful to see her giving heart to developing and growing
- 8:47Speaker 1: and her recognition that it's not a cookie cutter gift.
- 8:51Speaker 1: This is something that she wanted her teacher to know
- 8:55Speaker 1: specifically for her personalized that was important. Yeah, that's great
- 8:59Speaker 1: stuff and I just loved it. But, like I said,
- 9:02Speaker 1: because sometimes we just get caught up in it and
- 9:04Speaker 1: we actually can miss those little moments. And for me,
- 9:07Speaker 1: that was just a beautiful moment and little insight into
- 9:10Speaker 1: her heart and how it's maturing and growing.
- 9:12Speaker 2: It's beautiful. So my older better tomorrow. Fairly brief, but
- 9:16Speaker 2: a bit of a reminder. So on Monday, I was
- 9:19Speaker 2: on ABC Radio Western Australia having a conversation with the
- 9:23Speaker 2: presenter about what happens when our children feel accepted and
- 9:26Speaker 2: what happens when our children feel rejected by us and
- 9:29Speaker 2: the different ways that we can unintentionally create an environment
- 9:33Speaker 2: where they feel rejected. Really great conversation, lots and lots
- 9:37Speaker 2: of things to talk about there. But after I got
- 9:40Speaker 2: off the phone, I had the interview with two of
- 9:43Speaker 2: our kids, our fifteen year old and a twelve year
- 9:44Speaker 2: old in the car. They've been listening to the whole interview.
- 9:48Speaker 2: So I sat down in the living room once we've
- 9:49Speaker 2: gotten home and the interview was over, and I said, hey,
- 9:51Speaker 2: I'm just curious you heard what I was talking about.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Do you feel like you are unconditionally accepted or do
- 9:58Speaker 2: you sometimes feel rejected? And they told me that sometimes
- 10:02Speaker 2: they feel rejected, not often, but sometimes they feel mostly accepted,
- 10:06Speaker 2: but every now and again they feel rejected. And it
- 10:08Speaker 2: was just that that I guess uppercut was like they
- 10:13Speaker 2: little punch to the chops that reminded me that it's
- 10:17Speaker 2: really hard to get this right all the time. Every
- 10:18Speaker 2: now and again we have to correct our kids, but
- 10:21Speaker 2: their feelings of acceptance are fragile and they can be
- 10:24Speaker 2: shattered really easily when we step in with too much correction,
- 10:26Speaker 2: when we override their autonomy, When we make comments to
- 10:29Speaker 2: them about what they're doing, or how they're doing, or
- 10:31Speaker 2: why they need to do things better, they can internalize
- 10:34Speaker 2: that as I'm not worthy, I'm insufficient, they can feel rejected.
- 10:40Speaker 2: And so my older better tomorrow is to work harder
- 10:42Speaker 2: on that unconditional acceptance, to move away from rejection and
- 10:46Speaker 2: move more towards acceptance so that they know, no matter what,
- 10:50Speaker 2: that they are accepted. Really short, really simple, but a
- 10:53Speaker 2: really important reminder I think about why that matters. If
- 10:56Speaker 2: people are interested in finding out more about that, there's
- 10:59Speaker 2: an entire chapter in my book twenty one Days to
- 11:02Speaker 2: a Happier Family, including a checklist, or you can go
- 11:05Speaker 2: back about a week, week and a bit on our
- 11:08Speaker 2: Facebook page where there's a whole lot of beautiful graphics
- 11:11Speaker 2: up there, and on Instagram as well, about a week
- 11:13Speaker 2: ago talking about whether we're rejecting or accepting. So that's it.
- 11:17Speaker 2: That's a little better tomorrow for Friday, December the second.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening to the Happy Families podcasts.
- 11:23Speaker 2: We really appreciate the work of Justin Rulan from Bridge
- 11:26Speaker 2: Media and Craig Bruce, our executive producer, for making the
- 11:29Speaker 2: podcast sound great, and we really appreciate you. Thank you
- 11:32Speaker 2: so much for listening on Monday. With Christmas just around
- 11:36Speaker 2: the corner, when should kids get a phone? Is there
- 11:40Speaker 2: a golden rule, a perfect age? We're going to be
- 11:42Speaker 2: discussing that and a whole lot more on the Happy
- 11:46Speaker 2: Families podcast. Thanks so much for listening, and have a
- 11:48Speaker 2: great weekend.