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God Uses The Underestimated | Reborn Podcast EP.07 ft. Hunter Beale · Reborn w/ Antonio Boutros

• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was God's calling and God's will without a doubt, and that's the reason this happened.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the more bold you are, the more you'll be prosecuted.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: And as it says in the Bible, um uh if the world hates you, remember it hated me first.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: We know how to get people's attention, and the saying is you will never hear a dog barking at a park guitar.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: Give me wisdom like Solomon, give me courage like David, give me boldness like the apostles, and sharing the gospel.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like uh God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son Jesus, and we need him now more than ever.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: And um turn before it's too late.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: All right, uh, welcome back to the Reborn Podcast.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Today I have the opportunity to interview Hunter Beale.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Hunter has been a lifelong entrepreneur, uh starting in the fifth grade with snow cones, uh, selling snow cones.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um he is now the executive director of high school hustle.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: Throughout that time, throughout that period of snow cones to now high school hustle, he has been the right-hand man of uh the guy who owns 24 Jiffy Loops uh managing those.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: And he raised 250 grand for a business called Simpler Living, which was storage unit Airbnbs.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shipping container, yeah.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_01: Shipping container, yes, not storage unit, okay.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um and yeah, and now he empowers other high school entrepreneurs to build their careers, and just gave out a hundred thousand dollars to ten different high school entrepreneurs.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: So, Hunter, thank you for being here.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I would love to learn more about your story, both as an entrepreneur, as a man, as a Christian, how those three intertwine and the vision also behind high school hustle.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_01: So if we could get started with who you are, uh what brought you here to this moment today?
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was God's calling and God's will, without a doubt.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's the reason this happened.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I wasn't wanting to be in the nonprofit world.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like Scott Lingle, co-founder of High School Hustle, I mentored for the program last year, and I was at Jiffy Lube at that time, uh, was the right-hand man of uh um EJ Williams, the president of now 24 Jiffy Lube franchises uh locations.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I was trying to get in commercial real estate, and got long story short, God closed all those doors and then opened up a new door, which um was high school hustle, and I kept on telling Scott I wasn't really interested in doing it, um, long story short.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, we'll just pray about it, think about it, and then God closed all the commercial real estate doors.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought about it and prayed about it, and God made it evident that I need to be at high school hustle.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: So that's where uh I joined high school hustle now about a year and a month ago, um, and we just scaled times 140x, um, 2,100 student signups, just about a million dollars in student revenue that was generated, and then um 575 businesses created.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we've had more failures than successes with it.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um the numbers overcome that uh at mass scale, and there's there's a lot of you know problems and issues with scaling so quick, um, but I won't be naive to the failures that we've had.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's what we teach the students is that um do not fear the most repeated phrase in the Bible 365 times, um, and we shall not fear ourselves.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's the the biggest thing, and that's kind of what led me to where I'm at currently with high school hustle and uh helping the next generation of entrepreneurs uh and building that next generation as we speak.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: So that's basically the story of how I kind of ended up where I'm at, and I think going all the way back to snow cones, it like I I could vividly remember.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I didn't really want to do it, but my father told me, hey, why don't you guys start a snow cone business?
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'll give you guys a loan.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like a crazy loan, it was like a loan of 500 bucks to get a snow cone machine, the uh syrup um flavoring, uh the cones, the straws, the gloves, like just the whole everything that you need for a snow cone business.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: We got like a table, and then like we'd need ice before we'd go, like just everything, and we'd need coolers, and so we start at uh White River Christian Church, flag football games.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: My brother and I would crank out snow cones.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: My father was really um the reason why that happened.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: My brother and I would have not.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, how can we replicate what I learned there at$2 a snow cone is like, well, what if we charge three?
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: Or what if we do a deal like two for three?
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's like all these questions you have, and we'd make like$100 an hour, and I was probably$13.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: My brother was like 11 or 12.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we were like, it was the first, and then I went to become a lifeguard eventually, and I was like, man, this kind of sucks.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: I remember snow cones like with we'd make money hand over fist, and then now I'm like it's just that initial plant seed planted, um, and which I attribute to my father, uh, would be what of where I am today and why I am where I am today.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: That that seed, although it was a shortly lived seed, let me tell you, it was like one season of football.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think we did maybe a couple other events, I I can't remember, and then um it was mostly just those football games every Saturday morning.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: We'd get out there um and make money.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: And my dad would sit down with us and be like, This is your cost of goods, this is your sales, um, this is how much everything costs you, this is what you're making profit off of uh snow cones, and then he would be like, I mean, he just taught us so much in that of like you could do birthday parties with unlimited snow cones.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, we'll lose money, and I was like, freaking out, and he's like, How much time does it take you to make a snow cone?
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, do the simple math.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, it's 500 bucks for unlimited snow cones.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: You can only make them at uh a minute per snow cone, and then you have to do more eyes through the thing, and like it became a math equation of like you're going to profit if you are working literally endlessly for that hour that you're there for 500 bucks.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, that's interesting, but we'll work our butts off.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: So there's like different strategies and stuff I learned from that at a young age that really gained my interest in entrepreneurship, and and that was the turning point.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and all these entrepreneurs that I've been so lucky to hang around, you majority had a high school hustle.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: Scott Lingle sold two healthcare companies, he did uh newspapers and lawn mowing.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: Peter did dance parties for his school, and like that is where it all started, and that's where they ended up.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: Now, that's not to say everyone's gonna become a like an entrepreneur and do a uh you know, sell a big company or anything like that.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: We need small businesses.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: Majority of the United States is small businesses, and it's like, how can we get more people?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you got baby boomers right now retiring, and you have companies diluting because there's no one to take them.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: Their sons and daughters are you know want to become a lawyer or want to do this or want to do that or whatever it is, and they don't want the laundromat, they don't want the ice cream store, they don't want blah blah blah.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: Those things are profitable on bottom line, but it's just the willingness to do it.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's some people that won't, and they're it's the numbers crazy.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's um Cody Sanchez's book, uh Main Street Millionaire talks about it and she preaches it on the fact that uh you have all these companies diluting because and they're profitable because no one will take them and they don't know how to sell them.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's just an eye-opening thing.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: So that was a spiel about high school hustle and the early of the snow cones to where I'm at now, and uh I sell Jordans as well, flip Jordans at sneaker conventions, and then what else would I do?
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Supreme, I'd buy Supreme, flip it on eBay, go to Goodwill, flip stuff on Goodwill, and I'd learn a ton through that.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: I just was like flipping, learning, and then I like I mean, I had a weird hobby of getting into Hot Wheels and then trying to sell those, and then I ran the numbers after doing it for like a year, and I'm like, dang, I'm not making any money off of this, and I'm actually probably losing money.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like you learn all those lessons that are failing, and it's like you're not the next Mark Zuckerberg off of one startup, so it's just like I don't know, I've had a ton of hustles over my time over my lifetime so far.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, and each came with their own individual learning lesson.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like the more hustles you can create, uh, I think it's the there is some math and some fact and truthfulness behind the hustles you create or the learning lessons in which you present yourself today.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: What do you envision life looking like if your dad had not empowered and equipped you with that initial business?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: Would you be an entrepreneur?
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: Would you be living a completely different life?
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: What would that look like?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's a really good question.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um one that I haven't really thought about, um as Kanye would say, I guess we'll never know.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but I mean I may have stumbled upon it.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, because my I come from generational entrepreneurs.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like my great-grandfather was a jeweler in North Carolina.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: My grandfather created um and was main uh was a middleman on semiconductors, um, was like 10 million shy of being a billion-dollar revenue in business.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: And um he gave his life to Christ and like gave all that away.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it is um and then my father would have multiple failures.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: He would have um he'd create, I remember him telling me he had this Marine Corps apparel business when he got out of the Marine Corps and he tried to scale that, didn't work.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then he got into IT, he was working at HH Greg, didn't go to college, just went straight to the Marine Corps, and um he learned, he was self-taught through books how to do IT stuff.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: Created Digitech when computers became more prominent in businesses that they were being hacked, firewalls and stuff weren't really so.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: He learned how to create firewalls and built a B2B system to where the dentist office, the bank, or whoever, he would be their IT security.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: Before Norton was Norton on your personal computer, that's what my dad was doing back in the day in the early 2000s, um, in in creating firewalls and more security for systems and operating systems and businesses.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: It was really successful.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: He scaled to um Texas, scaled to Atlanta, um he was here in Indianapolis, um, and there was a lot of learning lessons there, but 08 happened, and IT got pulled from a lot of companies and um went through a tough time of bankruptcy and everything like that.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I think learning from my father and what it takes and how entrepreneurship can burn you as well.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um I've seen the other side of what success looks like of like burning uh what it looks like after bankruptcy, what it looks like after losing everything you had.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know how my father did it.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I see so highly of him and see him a role model.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it just still blows my mind.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I think if I didn't have that, I I wouldn't know.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think like if my parents, uh my my mom's awesome recruiter, um, she's in the corporate world,'s been crushing it for security systems, ADT, and um like if my father was like that, I question if I'd ever like have aspirations to be an entrepreneur.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like I truly think who you grow up with, which is why high school is so important.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's not college high school hustle, it's not it's not um after life after college high school hustle.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: It is high school hustle in the name.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: The earlier we earlier we can get to you and plant that seed, the better off.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm an entrepreneur.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: I like I've run businesses, I failed businesses, simpler living wasn't necessarily a failure, but more of a learning lesson.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's a hustle in of itself of what I did.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: I just paused it and realized um the numbers just didn't make sense, it didn't pan out, and I wasn't gonna be irrationally ignorant to like I have to an ego led, I have to make this happen because like the numbers just didn't work and it didn't pencil out.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it was like, okay, I gotta find something else.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that was kind of the eye-opener to all that.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: But I think, yeah, for one for my father, uh, my grandfather, and his um father, uh, my great-grandfather becoming a jeweler.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think we would have I like I think it's a lot of what you learn at a young age that you are embedded in.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's like that's what I mean.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: You look at socionomical issues or anything, right?
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: How do you change the tide?
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's like getting to their hearts young and changing them young.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you can't teach an old dog tricks.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: The same thing goes into a dog needs to be taught, and it's best when it's a puppy, or like you know, a growing dog, so to say, right?
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're becoming young adults, and the clo closer we can get to them at that age and um plant that seed of entrepreneurship, the better.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I had a kid I was talking to, Purdue Poly, inner city.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he did the most sales, and he I'll never forget the first day going there.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: He was introverted, quiet, just like uh and like guy wouldn't really talk, and like I could see there was excitement in him.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: He just hasn't seen it yet.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: And this whole summer he was door knocking.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and he was like, I said, What's the biggest lesson you've learned?
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: He said, talking with people.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like just door knocking and talking with people, whether it was a rejection or it was another sale to mow their lawn.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like he said, I learned so much through that that'll carry the rest of my life.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, the more stories I can create of that, the better off the world looks like tomorrow.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's um awakening the next generation of entrepreneurs.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's our mission of what we're doing.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: And the more we can awaken, the better.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I think the question we've scaled and we're looking at scaling even more.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: The hardest part is how do we go even deeper?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think a lot of what people will see on marketing and stuff is money, money, money, money, money, money.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: And like there's it's hard and it's a balance because between that, the what gets people's attention versus hey, like if we fit in with everyone else, of like we're traditional nonprofit, then we just fall into what everyone else is and we mold ourselves to what the world is.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: The world has to mold them, the world has to mold itself around us, and that's the way we prefer it.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's a lot of questions ultimately on um of a bunch of different stuff of like the money, the marketing, the everything that we've done.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I think it's just uh an eye-opener and a lot of lessons being learned, a lot of failures being had.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh people see high school hustle in multiple different ways.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: There's people that are gun-ho about it.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I've definitely heard behind the scenes of what people think about it truly deep down in their heart.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: There's some people casting stones at what we're doing because it's not done in the right way.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Of like traditional nonprofits, of I wouldn't say casting stones, they just think differently about what we're doing and they don't think it's the right way.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: When you're a pattern breaker, that's the hardest thing.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: The world's going against you, you're going against the grain.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: And the whole world is wanting you to conform to it, wanting to conform to normal nonprofits.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I think of Jesus in that.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, imagine the world had to conform itself to Jesus, right?
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, not everyone ended up, but like he transformed lives through dying on that cross and raising from the dead.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I think like the the more we conform ourselves to of this world, are you conforming yourself?
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Where's your identity tied into?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Is it tying your identity into this world, or would you rather have it tied in a heavenly one?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'd rather have my name written up here than down here, that's for sure.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: And like, especially with the news of like, you know, politics is something that just happened yesterday with Charlie Kirk, I think like the the more bold you are, the more you'll be prosecuted.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: And as it says in the Bible, um uh if the world hates you, remember it hated me first.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, man, like because like I was I was down bad yesterday because I got off a call and this guy was brutally honest with me on how he thought of high school hostile.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like I thought I was getting on a call with maybe a funder, maybe someone might get involved or whatever, and he just crushed the idea.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't necessarily crush it, but it was a lot of talk, and I and I and I don't have ego tied to it of like, man, he I think he's right to some I do think he's right.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh fully right, I'm not sure.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I think the conversations with God are more important than the ones of heavenly or earthly ones, yeah.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, I think the Holy Spirit was talking through him, and he talked a lot to me of things I don't see.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, how much soul does it have right now, high school hustle?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, you know, I I would say we have made an impact.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I guess what you see is reading a book by its cover by only looking on social media.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because that gets attention to get more people involved, and people say they love it, and there's other people casting stones at it saying, like, you guys are only talking about money, you're not like doing anything with the students, this, that, the other.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: We know how to get people's attention.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: And the saying is you will never hear a dog barking at a parked car.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: If you're moving, the dogs will be barking.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I think we don't have any ego tied to it.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: We want we're open ears, we're listening, how we can make it bigger, better.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: And that's that's the ultimate goal.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: But the question in the conversation yesterday I was on the phone with this guy was listen, you've scaled and you're talking about scale, scale, scale, and he's like, that's a dangerous world in a nonprofit.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: That like that's business.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, well, we're kind of trying to be a business in the nonprofit world.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we eventually will be a for-profit where we don't have to ask people for money, that we want to be enabled by our own thinking and what the students want rather than what other people project onto this nonprofit.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because when you start taking money, people's opinions start flying.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: And the heavier the check, the more the opinion's weighted.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like we don't want to be tied to the capital that's putting in, but a lot of the people that are putting in money to the nonprofit are people that are believers in what we're doing and just trust us uh to be stewards with their wealth.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I think it's just a whole interesting conversation of how high school hustle has gone, uh, the casting stones being the pattern breaker, like truly, like there is like conversations that have been hard on like what we built and like the questions of like you guys have gone wide, are you going deep enough?
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's a heavy-weighted question of like that I'm you know wrestling with God with.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, are we?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like we're trying to scale to other cities, and the model is like it's very interesting.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like you've been to monthly speaking events, and like I know that carries weight on some people.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like the Earl Seals event was freaking awesome, like how he just everything and sold story.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the benefits we give to mentors and stuff like that, to connections, to going to the voting event and you talking to Bob Court, and like you know, all this different stuff.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, at the core, we're trying to benefit everyone at the table, and that's radically different.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: Normally, nonprofits are like Tony, give me your time, give me your money, give me your time, give me your money.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: We're like, how can we how can we give you 10 hours back at your time for every hour you spend here is the challenge that we're kind of building for.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: And people are like, you shouldn't let other people benefit, it should just be at the core for students.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how do we get the best of brightest?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, traditional nonprofits are already amazing at like getting just people, right?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, how do we get the best?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's providing them benefits too.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: And um, people have different, well, they should only have a heart and stuff.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, we're getting the best of the best to mentor the students.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so if that is the best output and cat stones are cast my way and it's for the glory of God, so be it.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: If it's for the kingdom building, like I'll take a stone every day, like, and I'll die on that flag without a doubt.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, how can you um with the world wanting you to conform to it, how do you stay true in your identity, which for me is Christ?
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but also it's just super hard, honestly, because like you have the world saying you need to do it this way, that way, and there's a book called Pattern Breaker, which was eye-opening of like you not conforming to the world of this world.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's not necessarily a Christian book, it's like a business book, but I'm intertwining it into uh Christianity.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's just such an interesting conversation of uh building a fast-scaling thing while at the same time um you know staying true to your identity and yourself, and then even other people, other believers, telling you're doing it wrong.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like, man, am I gonna listen to the people that are in their own opinion thinking we're doing it wrong, or am I gonna listen to God?
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a mixture of both, because I think it does carry weight to the people, like I'm not like you know, I'm irrationally ignorant to the way other people view high school hustle, right?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like I have to listen and I have to be an open ear and I can't be closed-minded, and I have to take it serious, and it's like you got a lot of weight on everything you build.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's a very interesting thing.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I went down a whole rabbit hole of high school hustle and what I think the Holy Spirit guided me to say, which is this whole um, it's interesting, you carry weight and you feel the weight of what you built.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have 140x this year, so it's uh easier said than done.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but if God put you through that task, then He will surely be with you through that task.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Isaiah 6, 8, then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, Whom shall I send?
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Who will go for us?
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, Here am I, send me.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, man, like that is so good.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: Give me wisdom like Solomon, give me courage like David, give me boldness like the apostles and sharing the gospel.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like that is what I want.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I pray that every morning in the sauna.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, that's kind of like the rattle hole in the sauna.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I definitely it just depends.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Most days I do uh if someone comes in that I know and um I talk to other people in the sauna as well.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um but for the most part I definitely always pray.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like 98% of the time, without a doubt.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Even if someone is in there and I'm uh talking, it's just if a conversation just ends up going.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um like I'll never forget, I was praying one time and I was um I forget what happened, but I was kind of oh Game Bridge was about to happen.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's 350 people in the 100k ceremony for high school hustle, and that was a lot of weight.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: One person like working on it.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: I have virtual assistants and um that are awesome, and I have an intern, but that whole thing's on me.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like Peter and Scott aren't really doing a whole lot with that.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're kind of more of an advisory board than anything.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the day-to-day on everything, so it's like, man, I really gotta think about this and do like everything to my best ability.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember just being like so anxious and stressed, and then I was sitting there praying in the sun, and then two guys walked in and like mid-prayer and then say what's up, and they're like talking about the festival.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, I don't want to talk about this.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like my head's everywhere right now.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm like, God, and then I'm like, I'm an idiot.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: God sent these people to get my mind off of it.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: I was just it was a prayer answered that I was irrationally ignorant to think that this was a prayer answer.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't until I left the sun of like, wow, God provided those those guys to come in that I'm friends with at the gym and just start talking and get my head off of it.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, that was a blessing.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: So um praying in the sauna.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think morning routine is very important.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um I've been trying to get into back my morning routine, my 5 a.m.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: club.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: I faltered uh after I got in a motorcycle accident, and then um everything kind of fell.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like it's so hard to have discipline going back into it because you you you're so it's hard to think over time um like where you're at in the discipline it took to get where it's at one step at a time, and that compounding effect it has on you, and then starting point blank of that compounding effect, it's like all right, wake up 10 minutes earlier.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and then a week or two goes by, all right, 10 minutes earlier.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like that is super hard.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's easier said than done to go back to like day one of like, man, I gotta restart this.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: So, like it's been lately like 6 30, and I feel lazy waking up at 6 30.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, yeah, I want to get back into the 5 a.m.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: club, but it's like I work until night, and then uh by the time I go to bed, it's like 11, 12, and then I'm like, man, I need a little bit of sleep, at least six hours.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, I think health is important as well to focus on on sleep.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: I have a whoop, so I'm constantly measuring and keeping track of my score and journaling it on how my sleep was and everything like that, because I think that's how you operate um and how um what you put in your body is what you get out of your body.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's sleep, that's food, that's working out, that's everything.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: And God tells us to treat it like a temple.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: And we must um, and I think uh in God's honor of like getting uh working out and stuff, I'm like, man, this creation of what he built to us to like compound muscle and like just the tiniest things is just the wildest thing.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I think going back to the morning routine, I think it's important.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: I read the Bible every single morning uh in a Bible study group, and then I also um usually read and then um I look at emails and this, that, the other, but I don't really look at emails until like 9, 10 because I think it's a distraction.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: I know some people, and like I've hung around very wealthy individuals that are constantly on their email, and they have a very sense of high urgency on email.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: I have a high sense of urgency for mission.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like my mission is to make sure that I'm set up for success in the day and uh not to be constantly on my phone because I there's a the Humorman podcast talks about it in multiple books, talks about it on the data of like waking up and going to your phone and scrolling on social media to or or email.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's like your brain is being like a dopamine is just spilling out and you're losing energy right away.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's like how can I retain energy and to make sure my day is set up the best it can be and and reduce stress hormones, which is working out in the morning.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I think like your morning routine sets you up for success day by day, and that is the compounding effect for the long term.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I think the more starting off with the morning, the 5 a.m.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: club, the book talks about it.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: But the successful wake up early.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: And there's like Elon Musk, right?
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like some people are night owls and be at the anomaly, but more so than not, like people are up early that are successful.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: There's like I'm gonna get stuff done.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what happens at night usually staying up?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like nothing good, usually you're sc doom scrolling or doing whatever, and it's video games or whatever it is.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I think ultimately the earlier you wake up, there is some type of data behind the success rate that you have on waking up early um and conquering the day with a morning routine.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's just about adding hours.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: It could be, like you said, late night.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: Trying to think if there's anything else on that.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no, I don't really have anything.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: Any morning routines are important um where you want to steer the conversation next.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm curious between you personally as an entrepreneur and high school hustle, what's the vision?
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: We've talked about off-camera, a million students by 2034 impacted.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: What's the vision both for high school hustle as an organization, but also for you, Hunter Beal, in your career, are you gonna be the head of high school hustle going forward?
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna start your own venture?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: What does that look like?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it was God's call and God's will for me to be a high school hustle, and it was extremely apparent, like clear as day.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like I am so confident this is where God wants me at the moment.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, like every day you you take it day by day, and every day is um a different beast of its own.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh days are never easy when running a company.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um the stress that's carried with it, the um, and also like being careful and and proactive in a lot of different things on um student security, on you know, making sure like background, like all this different stuff, right?
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: For mentors and all this different stuff.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know how long I'll be.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: I told Scott uh and Peter I'd be there a year or two, and I because I said that's Max, like I'm gonna go build my own thing.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what that new thing is.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe guy wants me to stay here for 10 years.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: I can't tell you what I'm having for for lunch today.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like I take it day by day, but I'm also not ignorant to plan out, right?
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think like the more I take reps into uh different stuff that I'm interested in outside of high school hustle, like I was in a commercial real estate deal this year with uh a couple partners, um, with a couple other partners, and we closed on a big deal.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: And God made it evident that that was his plan when I was trying to get commercial real estate.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: He provided that for me, and I'm like, dang, this was like an answer of prayer.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't get to work for a commercial real estate company, I get to be the commercial real estate company and do a deal.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was kind of an eye-opener.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but God provided um, I don't know how long, like uh I'm not rushing anything.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's to be biblically patient, I think is very important.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm very fast-paced, I'm very high urgency.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I'm willing when God puts it in front of me, he'll make it just like high school hustle, he'll make it very apparent.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think it's where the place I'm supposed to be.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't have an answer of like I told Peter and Scott I'd be there a year or two, but again, I think it's been two years now, right?
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: A year and a month.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I got one more season in me.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh in in terms of like what I said I would do, of man of my word.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: That I mean I could leave right now if I really wanted to, and I wasn't liking it.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm not going to.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: I was already offered other opportunities that would pay more um substantially, but I just I know God's calling us here, and I He gave me the power and worked through me to have such an impactful and results-driven year that I'm like, okay.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm meeting all these cool people.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like I get to spend time just with the coolest people and wealthy stewards of wealth, uh, God-led people like that.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm like, I don't know what's next.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like some of them ask me, you know, like, oh, what's next for you?
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, uh, same with high school hustle until God tells me otherwise.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, yeah, I have no idea.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: No idea.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'll take it day by day, and I know I got another season ahead of me from what I know now, unless Peter and Scott fire me, which I don't see that they would do with the results that we had this year, but um it's God's plan, not mine.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think the more we focus on God's will instead of ours, the more successful you'll be.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: What but not being irrationally ignorant to planning of what's on your heart, of like what you want to do, right?
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, where the Holy Spirit may be calling you, but it there's a there's a really defined difference between your will and God's will.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the the hardest part is attuning to God's will versus your will.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I was attuning to my will when I wanted to work for commercial real estate, and Scott gave me the opportunity to run high school hustle, and I said, Slim to no chance.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I want to do this like at all.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: And then I kept on asking him, hey, do you have someone he would interview other people?
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, are they any better than me?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: And like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I wanted to weasel my way out of that.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: I did not want to do high school hustle, like in the least, like in the least bit.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: I I wanted, I wanted a mentor.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's it.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like when Scott asked me, and but now I know what the feeling is for me to ask Tony be a mentor for high school hustle.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because, and I see what we're up against, because Scott came to me, and really it was at first, it was only Scott selfishly the reason I showed up.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I was like, whatever, he's doing this thing.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: I get to hang around Scott more, so I'll do it.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought pretty selfishly on that, and I was like, but then I saw the impact and it opened me up to like, man, and there's cool people.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm meeting Tony, I'm meeting uh Justin Groff, I'm meeting um like all these different people.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, man, this is actually a really cool group of people that I'm networking with and getting to know on a deeper level while helping the next generation of entrepreneurs.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: It was a win-win-win-win-win.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone at the table was winning.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, man, this is actually a really neat.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: And again, the reason I got put into it was because I selfishly wanted to benefit hanging out with Scott.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: But because I didn't really know, like he just told me he was doing this entrepreneurship thing, like didn't really know what he was doing, but I was just like, sure, I guess I'll do it if you're gonna be there.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: And um, sure enough, it opened me up.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so now I see it, and that's why the pattern breaking is so hard because like people are like, oh, you're gonna get the wrong people, this, that, the other, you're marketing the wrong thing.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I hear that.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not gonna be ego-led on being like, you're wrong, da-da-da-da.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to listen.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, sometimes it's just stone thrown your way with no, like, with no critical thinking on or constructive feedback, of lack of better terms.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I I think it's an interesting conversation.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then the downloads I've gotten through Peter and Scott are just incredible.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like how they operate and think.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: And to me, to get that download in my head on like Scott is high urgency, Peter is first principles.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: First principles, it's like, all right, how does everyone else you summarize like boil things down to the simple elements of like what are you trying to accomplish?
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: What is your objective?
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're a nonprofit, this, that, the other.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: What are other nonprofits doing?
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I want your time, your money, this, that, the other, pulling on hard strings.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: And that's we want to pull on heartstrings as well, just to be clear.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: But then we take the opposite route, and then you got dogs barking at you.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're doing nonprofit wrong, you're doing it, da-da-da-da-da.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: And we're like, that's the point.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's why we're getting everyone's attention.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, if it's God's will and God's call, that will happen.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of what we've done was God's will and God's call.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like a lot of it.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think much of it was our self-led.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: I of course there's stuff that may have been a miscommunication from what we heard from God.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm not gonna be irrationally ignorant and say everything was planned by God, but at the same time, I think the success of what happened was through God and not fearing, and only fearing God.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I prayed and I listened, like, like, and I'm still in prayer.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't know how I'm gonna raise two million.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how I got 10k check.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I got, and that's what I got on a two million raise.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: I got 1,990,000 more to go.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, the weight of that, but God's called me.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm radically, God never provides early, he always provides on time.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't know what will happen, but I'm here for it.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see what happens.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think the more you you listen to God's call, I was just reading Jeremiah.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: He was very close to God.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't hear an answer, I think it's uh in like 47, 48, 49 chapter.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't hear from God for 10 days.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you look in the Bible and it was decades, centuries, that God didn't talk.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: And we want a now.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: Tony says, God, I want this, or blah, blah, blah.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: And you expect to be laid right in front of you, and God says, Patience, you don't understand.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: You do not understand now, is I think he says in Peter, you do not understand now, but later you will understand.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the more we attune to that and the more we listen to God's will.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's so many times where I was like, no, no way.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like nonprofit, dude.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, no way, God, that's not me.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: And then he was like, Yeah, it is like the more you listen to God's will, that's when, versus your will.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that is a very hard discernment to listen to and to be like the conscious, thinking, like, was that my thought or was that God's thought?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I think like the more you tune in, the more you get into word, the more you listen, you listen to worship music, the more you, if you're on social media, that you follow these people that are talking about God and Jesus, like the more you create rhythms, the more you are going to be implanted in your head to like think of stuff.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like I remember I was thinking when I was on the phone with this guy, he was kind of slashing high school hustle a little bit, but in a good way.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like he wasn't like being uh mean about it or anything.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: He gave me really constructive feedback that I took, and I don't have ego tied to what we built, and uh I'm gonna listen to it.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the and it was very helpful feedback to get a different perspective.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the more we um I was going somewhere with that, but I lost my train of thought.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think the more we can attune to God's will, uh, the better we're gonna be off.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um and oh, I think it's because I was in the word, I remember hearing that and then going back to uh what verse was it?
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I can't remember the verse, but I specifically remember the connection to that is I remember reading in the Bible because I do it every single day.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: There's not a day I go by and don't read the Bible.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: And because I was in and have repetitive actions in the in the word and a bunch of other stuff, that I was like in that conversation, I was like thinking of that verse, and I was like, dang, that's crazy.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like and I think you have more ties to the word, to people's talking, all that stuff.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's rebel stuff uh where you want to stay with the conversation now.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: What's been the feedback?
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: What specifically is vastly different about high school hustle that you've especially gotten uh backlash on, constructive criticism on, maybe not constructive criticism on, versus traditional nonprofit?
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a good question.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the lost soul.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I got.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's no depth to what you guys are doing.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are throwing money, um you guys are just throwing money at it, and that's it.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, dude, there's like in my opinion, that was reading a book by its cover, uh, which is the social media that we post and stuff to get people's attention, rather than the end product of what the case studies and the stuff we've come up with.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think the more you go in depth, I it the question becomes do you want to scale and touch as many people as possible, or do you want to stay concentrated and go as deep as possible?
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of traditional nonprofits go as deep as possible, which is a good thing.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: When you look at inner city, like kids that have it rough and stuff, to go deep with them is relatively, actually not relatively, very important because like you want to touch their hearts.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: You want to get them before they end up on the right, wrong side of the road of like selling drugs or this, that, the other.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I think we were more on surface level a lot of like, hey, this is our business model, this is what we've created, rather than, and it's created a movement, but I think someone it in other people's opinions, it would not be a movement because like what we've done is just throw money at it and the way we've marketed it.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um also, what do nonprofits do?
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: Let me get your time, Tony.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: Let me get your money, Tony.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then we do monthly speaking events for all the mentors.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: We invite the students to come in, of the biggest and baddest entrepreneurs in the Indianapolis area.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like um, we got Paul Thrift coming up, which has been a steward of God.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: He has um Luke 12, 48 on his website, to whom much is given, too much is required of, one of my favorite verses.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like sitting there and I'm like, we're and you're connecting with other people, you're connecting with Bob, you're connecting with Phil Alton.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: You probably would have never met those people who won for high school hustle.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: I was just talking to another guy, uh Ned.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Ned um started his own business.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: He got a connection through high school hustle that helped him really start his business and a mentor that's like changing his life.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I look at all these connections people have had.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: I got my commercial real estate deal through high school hustle.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like the connection of Tony, we want you to benefit rather than give your time, give your money, do this, do that.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that is not the traditional nonprofit way.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: And the way we word, um, like I was also criticized yesterday, critically criticized in a good way, on the wording of what we said.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we say, We want more connections, you want to benefit, like, come join high school hustle.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: And then people are like, no, you should want to help the kids only and this, that, the other.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, you try to get the greatest and best from that.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_00: And then the question is, well, are those people gonna be a steward of their like labor?
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: Are they like looking for something now and blah, blah, blah?
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: We've never found that out of anything.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: People fear because it hasn't been done.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I think uh the more we put how do you benefit at the core, that is what's radically different.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because like we say that in a lot of marketing messaging.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: We say that like we like if you look at the messaging and what we say, like that's what's criticized.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you guys are only money, you guys are pumping out videos of showing a briefcase of 100k of cash, you're just going in, you're telling students about this, you're doing this big competition, and then the the saying is you lost all your soul, if not you've lost most of your soul, if not already all.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I um take that feedback, but I would disagree because like you're reading a book by its cover, you haven't seen the in-person.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: I would have been at almost all campuses.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: I have seen the students that are touched.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: The question was, because you guys are more surface level than creating real big depth, is it I think the biggest question is, is that conversation um it's just that conversation of going really deep versus going a little higher level and touching as many people.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then are you turning people off because you're more higher level and not deeper?
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like there's not, we couldn't find enough mentors to like really, with the engine that we created and the student and the movement we got with the students, we couldn't find enough mentors that were high quality for that.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: Our focus was we want quality, not quantity of mentors.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'd rather you be talking to someone that's been in business rather than a doctor who has nothing idea, no idea about business.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's like do you go to your you go to your uncle who uh works on cars and is a mechanic for back pains, or do you go to a doctor?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: The same way in business.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: You should go to entrepreneurs for this, and there isn't a high like there's not a ton of quantity of uh entrepreneurs at mass scale.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of them are very busy, and that's why we have we have pivoted to our target market, which is entrepreneurs, people that have created businesses.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: How do you benefit?
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's how we've been landing them.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: And um there's a whole strategy behind it that's been really intentionally and deeply thought about, uh, and people have broken the model and talked about it, and we're always trying to be better.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm not selfish and or have an ego on it has to be this way or that way, but I've seen the impact we provided.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: And the the question is, do we go more deep?
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of nonprofits go deep with what they're doing rather than stay high level of like we're creating a business model, we're creating a system, software, we have incentives, and we want to create more of a value proposition going into 2026 of having these hustle app stores.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: So if Tony wants to start card detailing, doesn't know how to start, there's a course, there's uh payment set up so people customers can scan the QR code and pay them because the issue is like under the age of 18, you can't have Venmo and other stuff, you have to go through parents.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how do we solve all those problems and to be a platform uh and enabling this movement to happen and franchise this movement more or less for other people to impact their community and go in deep with their community because we now realize at high level we are becoming more of a franchise model in the nonprofit world than the us white knuckling the movement in of itself?
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: We white knuckled and forced the movement in of itself this year, and we know it worked with the results we had.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: Students almost revenue at a million dollars together.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like there is movement happening in that.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: And the question was are you is that existing businesses or is that new uh new hustles?
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a mixture of both at the at the core.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: I just think it's this interesting.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Epilogue that happens in my head of all that stuff of and what you have to think about, right?
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: Of running a company and not letting it weigh down on you.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's like good critical feedback.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like the guy I was talking to, amazing critical feedback.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_00: I actually really needed that because it humbles me and it makes me think more deeper about what we're doing and more intentionally and to pray more intentionally.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: God, what do you want over me and what's your will over mine?
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's a conversation and that I've been having ultimately a lot.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I I I I would um debate that you guys are going deep.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: You're all you're you're always gonna have, let's say you touch top of a funnel a million people, you're always gonna have a certain percentage that are looking in and have no idea what it's actually about.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: You're always gonna have that one percent that has gone so deep that they've been touched, your life has been transformed.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: So you might not have deep with death with every single person, but with that certain percentage, you definitely do.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I think of mentors, students, and so on.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: Don't tie yourself to this world.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I'd rather have my name written up there than down here, which is why it's so important.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: I listen to what's going on up there, what God wants me to do, what's his will.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'll say it again.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_00: I've already said it, Isaiah 6, 8.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_00: Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, Whom shall I send?
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: Who will go for us?
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, Here am I, send me.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like, boom, send me.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'll die, I'll die on that flag for Jesus on whatever I need to do.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: And he's called me to do this, and I know I'm in the right place at the right time.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm galvanizing and moving this movement in a way that um God has enabled me to.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's only through God and God's will and God's call that I'm here and I'm doing this because I wasn't trying to be here.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the more you listen to the necessarily, because truth be told, the guy I was talking to, he actually loves what we're doing.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_00: He just had critical feedback.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: He was not like rude or mean or anything like that.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_00: He just ripped it to shreds, which was a good thing.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: It humbles you to think more deeper.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the more you can not be ego-led and be thinking ego is the enemy, because if I were like, dude, you just don't understand what we're doing here.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, I was listening and I there is truth behind what he's saying.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's like if you're trying to make everyone happy, you're setting yourself up for massive failure, let me tell you.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh especially on a movement.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: If you're trying to make everyone happy, you are going to face, you're going to face plant and fail like crazy.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the biggest thing with what I thought.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um we're doing on time.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: Are we doing pretty good?
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: What time is it?
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh 10.08.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: Your cutoff is 10.30.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um give or take.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: I want to make sure I have it on the calendar for that.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm gonna my weeks recently have been pretty front-heavy.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: So I've got a pretty light age.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've been all heavy.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: I said I've been all heavy.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Mondays and Tuesdays are definitely busy.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just about um I mean catching up and not getting behind and everything.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_00: So uh yeah, I mean, I got like six, ten more minutes.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um wherever you'll ask you one more question and then I'll bring it in.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_01: I want to ask you about failure, like the role of failure boys.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Massive.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_00: Failed a lot.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's why with this movement and our failures, like they become overwhelmingly apparent.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like people see high-level numbers and we say scale, and they're like, we don't think that's the right word.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, okay, that's fair enough.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I think it's just such an interesting failure is why we are here today and why we've had success because we didn't have ego to what it had to be.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: We let the market decide.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: God gave us the call and will, and the market decides if your idea is gonna be successful or not.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so at mass scale, you figure out if your idea is successful or not the more you scale, right?
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: But that's a reason why, like I think the third reason why businesses go out uh of business uh in the for-profit sector because they scale too fast.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, which is ironic, right?
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_00: To what I'm saying of the failure.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: So um the failure is important.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: I look at the failures, the classroom model sucked.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Carmel, you're at Carmel.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: Carmel really wasn't that bad, but when you go to like one of the schools and you just see the student, like I mean, who's at Carmel, right?
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: They had less and less show up.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, well, we we didn't have great structure.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: I came in a month late, so by the time I came in as a mentor, I the structure just was not there, and I think we fell off for sure.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: We could have definitely been more dialed in and had better processes and and and and structure.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I think part of that, a big part of that, is probably just setting expectations for the mentors to then have the mentors set expectations for the students.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the hardest part is that all these entrepreneurs and people are super busy.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, and we learn if it and that's why the classroom model kind of sucked.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we didn't have structure, we didn't know how it was gonna go.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: We kind of just were like, all right, we kind of relied on the entrepreneurs to be like, all right, you're gonna figure it out, and that didn't really work out.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, all right, maybe we do need a little bit of structure on that.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: And we did provide a playbook of structure of how meetings should go and what it looks like.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: So we did provide it, just people weren't looking at it.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so maybe it's a different medium, maybe it's a podcast, uh, like or just an audio that people can listen to on their way to work to know, like, oh yeah, okay, because they're super busy.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: How can we tailor to these super busy people to be able to provide for the students to the way um God hopes us to, uh, I think is the biggest question.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that was a big uh that classroom model, like you were talking about, there wasn't really structure.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: I was running Fisher's.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm relatively like very energizing and like can spread energy.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: So like if you don't have someone energizing and like bringing in new people, and like I think it just falls apart because Fisher's stayed, it was kind of up and down through the season, sports, blah blah blah.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_00: You can never find the right time for the students because you got sports, you got this after school club, they got robotics club, whatever it is.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like you never find the right time.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: But what we realized is the software was really working, and that there was people competing for that, and I was like, dang, like that's pretty crazy.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think it's just we learned a lot, like we showed the full leaderboard when the competition started, and then I got feedback from students, um, which is the most important feedback because that is our market on who we're providing for, and they were like, Oh yeah, I quit logging because I saw like someone already did 40,000 and landed a contract for that.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, they're like, this isn't for me.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's I see what type of competition this is, and it's like that's not who I am.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just trying to cut along.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, all right, hide that, we put in the software, we hide it.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: They can only see who's above them and below them.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: And that was what was successful.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then there was also uh when you look at the top 10 that we gave 10k to each, they were all dudes.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, all right, we need more women in business, yeah, and I don't want to conform to the world.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be very clear.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to we don't want to conform to the world, we won't want to conform to what other people think we need to be, but we do think women in business is a very important thing.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I think uh we're looking at different uh two having two different competitions, just like the NBA and the WNBA.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like it should probably be a boys and girls competition is an upperclassman versus a lowerclassman because usually upperclassmen have had a already existing business, and so it's like how do we keep getting people into entrepreneurship uh and not just the people that pushing people the further?
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because the question is getting awakening the next generation of entrepreneurs is our mission statement, but there's already existing entrepreneurs.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: How can we push them further?
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: And does that go against our mission?
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the wrestling I have with God and a lot of thinking that I've been doing and reflecting.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think that the failures of all this different stuff and putting action to your failure and then failing again and then failing again and failing again is so important because the market is defining your failure.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what's important to be testing.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_00: Not you sitting here, I think this is gonna fail.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_00: Test it with the market and see.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_00: There's only so many tests you have with the market, though, to keep in mind before like everyone's like, yeah, I don't want to do this.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: This is stupid.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so it's being careful with the amount of failures that you can have, but I wouldn't limit the human mind limits to and fears failure over the amount of times that you actually have to do failure before you lose everything.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I think like more the the hum the spectrum is definitely on the side of like you cannot fail, I don't want to fail.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like entrepreneurship is all about failing.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, classroom model sucked, uh it wasn't really that good.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I question if we went deep super deep.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like I mentored students I went super deep with, and I know other mentors went super deep with some students, but like you look at the ratio mentor to student, 2,100 students, we had 100 plus mentors-ish, like that's a 1 to 21 ratio.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like that is not sustainable.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_00: And we realize that that's a failure, right?
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, how can we do now?
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: We're thinking, could because all most high schools have an alumni network, could we email blast them saying like twofold that school is benefiting, we always think about benefits to but all parties.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: Is the school benefit getting more alumni engaged, and the students are getting more mentors that are high quality.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, if you've launched a business or if you're in business, we'd love your help.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: And we're not strictly entrepreneurs only.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we want people in corporate world, accounting, this, that, the other, that have different perspectives to help, right?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's very important that the right lessons are being taught and not the wrong ones of like you need a business plan that's super long, you need this, you need more structure, you need that.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's like go learn and fail and door knock.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's the whole reason we built this.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: And the more the world tries to conform us to what it is, the less success we'll have.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I think the the failures, I mean, that's just been like crazy failures.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_00: But our successes are like lunchroom.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't do it at Carmel, so you didn't see it, but like maybe seen it on LinkedIn.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like we go into lunch and we wave a hundred dollar bill around and we say, scan the QR code on your lunch table, come up here and pitch us, and one of you is gonna win a hundred bucks.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's another controversial topic.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're just flashing money in order to get them.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: We almost got kicked out of the school, actually, because we were doing that.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: The ROTC guy was so mad that we took all of his, all we were getting so much attention.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_00: The line was, I'm not joking, a hundred plus people at this school.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: And the ROTC guy was trying to get us kicked out.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: He was talking to the superintendent, all these other people, and he came over to us during a lunch break of like the next uh wave of students who are gonna come in for lunch.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: He said, You guys can't be doing this, and was like casting stones in our way, and it was just an eye-opener of you never hear a dog barking at a park car.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: If you're going fast, if you're growing fast, and it's not always good.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying scaling is always good, just to be clear.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there are cons to scaling, and I think a lot of it is depthness, and I think um there's a lot of things to battle with in your head, and I think talk to God and ask his will versus other people's wills, because people will give you and sprinkle their opinions, but don't conform to this world, conform to the godly one.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I think that's that was another uh interesting uh controversy of throwing a hundred bucks and money, money, money, money.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_00: You got all these wealthy people that are giving in and we're throwing money left and right.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I think we are backing with incentives to make Tony more successful at 17 years old with his lawn care business to help him buy more.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's like, why are you doing that is more important than what the public sees and has opinions and cast stones at?
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that is the tough subject that um I don't want to conform to this world, I don't want to conform of a heavenly one.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_00: And the question is, well, like, is flashing money a godly world?
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: It gets attention and it gets more impact.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: That is what the goal is.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you're not really going super, super in depth with them, so really is that impact?
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think these battling questions that you have, and then I look at David, and I can we've done more good than we've done harm.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, I don't know what, like that's what I bring to.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think we need a little bit of editing and thinking on that, but I mean, don't conform to this world.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the most impactful thing in this conversation.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: Don't conform to this world.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_01: And as as you say, you don't you don't have to be everything to everybody.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you might be the organization that spreads the wide net, and then there's separate organizations that go deeper with with the students, with the entrepreneurs, with the mentors, and so on.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I think the more we can be the platform, the better off as we're seeing it.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then uh, like another person told me, like, you're just becoming a platform, and that's the easiest thing to do.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I'd say, mm, to get 2,100 students on a platform, I don't think is like in my head, I'm like, that's not really an easy thing to do.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_00: That took a lot of effort and intentional effort.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then the question is, was it intentional?
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're throwing money around.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I I don't have time to go super, super, super in depth on it on my take.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but we do hear uh we do hear it, we do hear people's opinions on it.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_00: If it's for the glory of God, and I think it's questioning constantly, is it the glory for the glory of God?
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's very important, and I'll continue battling with and wrestling God with on what he wants me to do and try to hear with him on this so um and accept what he wants us to do.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: Sweet.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_01: I know you are uh towards the end of your time.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything else that you would like to share one last word with anybody with the audience?
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that was Jesus Christ.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_00: The more you believe in him, the more things.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_00: I used to think it was a fairy tale.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: It was like for broken people, for um and I just saw something very touching.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh a band I used to listen to when I was kind of straight away from God in high school and college, uh, Suicide Boys, very controversial.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like they just opened up about God, that how it's changed your life, and I see how God's moving, and I'm like, man.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like if they have a little bit more work and a way to go with God, but they said they've been like trying to attune it.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: They're not perfect, none of us are, but like obviously their music is very vulgar.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if anyone has heard of the Suicide Boys, but I think um like them opening up to God is super important.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that's Jesus Christ.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the more you believe, and the more you don't just take my word for it, but you get in the word, you go to church.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's multiple things.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_00: You don't just go to church and get into heaven.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like it is um faith without action is dead faith, as it says in James 5.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: Dead faith.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: You must put it into good deeds and good action.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the more you do that, the more important that is just so important that you must have action behind faith and be strong with faith because uh faith is not for wossies.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're going to get stones cast your way.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like the controversial topic right now, which I won't get into and say my opinion, like Charlie Kurt, right?
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like, well, was he a man of God and this, that, the other?
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like he did talk about God a lot and like on his platform and like a lot of different stuff, and like to be that bold and like that's crazy.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: To be that bold and be God and mixing politics with faith, that is one of the well, it just presented itself.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: It is the hardest topic to present now.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I think it would just faith or the reason being why it happened uh to Mr.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_00: Kirk, but like the world is becoming more and more evil, and we have to turn to Jesus before he returns.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_00: Will it be in our lifetime?
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_00: No one knows, as it says in the Bible.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_00: But the scary thought of is if he comes in the next hour, where do you think you're going?
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: And that is a humbling thought to have.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: And not to fear of G not to fear God.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_00: Fear God, but people think fearing is different from like a big sword, this, that, the other.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the awe of God is an amazing book that I would recommend all your listeners read.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's life-changing.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's John Bevere.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's life-changing.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_00: And he talks about the the kind of epilogue we have in our heads of like the fearing of God, and the fearing of God we think is like a big sword, and he's gonna slash us in half, and he's a he's a gracious, merciful God, but also he is a just he is a justice God as well.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the uh the fearing part people mix, the fear is to be away from God for what happens when you're away from God without him, to go through things without God is the most important thing, rather than he has this big sword and he's gonna slash me in half and he's gonna throw me in hell and this, that, the other.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: It is to fear to be away from God, rather to fear that he's going to you know disown you and throw you.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_00: He isn't ever loving God, and I'm still learning.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a perfect preacher uh in the sense of preaching his word.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I'm in the and I think everyone thinks they can't talk about God if they don't haven't read the whole Bible or whatever.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you only learn through talking and only learn by doing.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: Your action, if if I read the Bible and never talked about God and Jesus during this whole podcast, I will be a failed faith.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like we create disciples.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: God calls us to create disciples.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_00: The more we can create of disciples, the better this world is going to be.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I think on both sides, whether it's politics, left, and right, like the world needs Jesus, not politics, it needs Jesus.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_00: And the more we put him in the front, the more we talk about him, um, the better off the world will be, in my um truly believing opinion on that.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah, uh God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son Jesus, and we need him now more than ever.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_00: And um turn before it's too late.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_00: Can't finish better than that.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's go.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_01: This has been Hunter Beale.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Hunter, as you've heard, has been an entrepreneur throughout his life, now leading uh high school hustle into their next season.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Hunter, thank you for being here.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_00: And if you are if you want to get involved in high school hustle, go to high schoolhustle.org.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_00: You'd be a mentor, a funder, or uh just see what we're doing.
• 1:02:17
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• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but uh check out our website, highschoolhustle.org.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll be able to do that.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Jimmy.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.