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A penalty shootout with HPE CEO Antonio Neri: HPE Discover Barcelona 2025 · Technology Now

• MICHAEL BIRD Hi, Sam. SAM JARRELL Hey, Michael. It's good to see you. It's also a little strange to be on the same, you know, time zone for once. MICHAEL BIRD I would agree with you. Um, I think it's actually strange we're in the same country for once. You'll sort of usually just like an avatar on my screen, so it's very odd being stood next to you. I think a lot of people, uh, feel that way now, Sam, do you know what time of the year it is? SAM JARRELL Uh, my guess is you were referring to the time of the year that we hold our second HP Discover event. MICHAEL BIRD we are here in sunny Barcelona. Sunny in December is very odd for me as a Brit. I'm sort of quite used to it just being rainy and miserable. But we're in sunny Barcelona for HP Discover Barcelona 2025. All very exciting. Should we get on with the show? SAM JARRELL Yeah, let's do it. MICHAEL BIRD I’m Michael Bird. SAM JARRELL I'm Sam Jarrell MICHAEL BIRD And welcome to Technology Now from HPE. MICHAEL BIRD So, Sam, we are currently stood, out in our football pitch, I guess, soccer field here at the University of Barcelona. it is a lovely, bright, sunny December day. Very odd for me as, as a Brit to be, uh, warm in December. SAM JARRELL I don't know how you're warm. It feels like December for me. MICHAEL BIRD now I, as you can see, I'm wearing an FC Barcelona kit, just the top. Um, with, actually, I got my, I have my name and number on the back. It’ll make sense a bit more later. if you wanna tune in and actually see this kit for yourself, see where we are and see this episode, um, there is a video version of this episode will be available. Just check it out wherever you get your video podcast episode. Oh, and Sam, welcome back to the show. Thank you as our new host while Aubrey's out. SAM JARRELL Yes. Thank you so much for inviting me, Michael. It's really, really fantastic to be here. Um, question though, speaking of here, why did you drag me out to a soccer field on a December day? MICHAEL BIRD Yeah, that's a, that's a really good question. This week is another HP Discover event, and this time we are here in very sunny Barcelona. Uh, now MP Discover Barcelona is a two day event. Here in Barcelona, Spain, where industry professionals, HP partners and sponsors can all come to share ideas and make new connections. SAM JARRELL I guess you could say then that the event is focused on networking. MICHAEL BIRD Yes. Uh, it is focused on networking. Of course. Love the joke, but also cloud and ai. Now, um, back at HP Discover Las Vegas. During the summer, you had the chance to talk to our very own president and CEO Antonio Neri. Uh. About everything going on. You had a lovely walk around the show floor, didn't you? SAM JARRELL Yeah. We had a fantastic time walking through and just talking about what's coming up for HPE and what the event is all about. MICHAEL BIRD Well, earlier today on this very football pitch, ex almost exactly where we're stood, uh, I had the chance to interview Antonio again about what's changed in the last six months and where we are going as we head into 2026. And you know, because we're on a football pitch. Um, and this is, this is why I'm dressed in this kit. Um, I thought we should try and maybe mix the interview up a little bit. So interspersed with the questions. We also had a penalty shootout at the same time. time. Yeah. It's the first sort of interview slash penalty shootout we've ever done. Um, so without further ado, let's just go and watch the interview. MICHAEL BIRD Welcome to Technology Now, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Um, we are here for hp Discover Barcelona, and because I know that you laugh, I brought you to this quite cold. ANTONIO NERI Yeah. Chilly morning. Chilly morning. Although it's sunny. MICHAEL BIRD It is sunny. Hopefully it'll warm up. Um, so the plan is that we're gonna do our interview. Uh, I'm gonna ask you some questions and then we're gonna have a go at, uh, the goal taking, taking some penalties. We're gonna have a little penalty shootout, so it….. ANTONIO NERI you want me injured before my, uh, yeah, my, my whole week here? MICHAEL BIRD I hope not. So it's gonna be sort of an interview slash penalty shootout. Yeah. Um, how does that sound? Sounds good. Good. Okay. And, uh, we've, we've taken some warmup shots. ANTONIO NERI I feel like we're ready to go. MICHAEL BIRD Um, now people, um, watching this podcast will probably have noticed that we are wearing ANTONIO NERI you are brave to have short pants, but I'm not, MICHAEL BIRD I'm in shorts, but we're wearing these, um, these shirts from our friends at FC Barcelona. Now I, if you've notice, but there are some numbers on the back of our shirts. ANTONIO NERI Well, I, noticed mine. I didn't see yours MICHAEL BIRD Yeah. Okay. So remember we just sort of turn around to the camera? To that camera over there. Can you see, so you've got a, uh, a 30 on yours? Yeah, I've got a six on mine. Do you have any idea what the numbers are? ANTONIO NERI I think it's in the number of, uh, years of service. MICHAEL BIRD Exactly. Yeah, that's correct. Um, which leads me quite nicely onto our first question because, we've recently celebrated our 10th birthday, uh, at HPE, and you've been CO of HPE for almost eight of those years, I believe. So how have you seen the organization change over the last decade ANTONIO NERI Well first of all, congratulations all for the 10 year anniversary. It was, uh, a moment in time Yeah. That we celebrate and we're gonna celebrate even again here, it has been a remarkable journey I think as a company, We have done amazing things. Yeah. And with the closing of the Juniper transaction, obviously we completed the Transformative year on the 10th year of our journey, and I think the company we are today is totally different than the company we were on November 1st, 2015. Yeah. You know, now we are a more innovative company. We have a complete portfolio, obviously a culture that we all, uh, live in, uh, and resonates with customers and, and partners. And I think, you know, the opportunity ahead for the next decade are enormous. MICHAEL BIRD And, um. What do you think is the most important thing that we've achieved in the past decade? ANTONIO NERI Well, at first, funding our, our way, I think, you know, you know, it is obviously. that in the 2000, 2010, uh, decade. There was a lot of change. And we needed to find our, our, our North Star. And I think our North Star is all about customers. It's all about innovation. It's all about culture. And obviously we have the new brand here on the microphones. And uh, and to me that's, uh, that's, Estimate that this company isunique and it's amazing and what we do. matters. Mm-hmm. MICHAEL BIRD Okay. I think it's time for our first penalty. Yes. Course. Okay. Okay. So we are gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, um, take a, take our first penalty I think, I think you should go first. Okay. If you hand me your microphone. There you go. Are you gonna talk about this? Yes. I, I'm gonna commentate, I'm just gonna hand… hand that ANTONIO NERI Right. Alright. Okay. MICHAEL BIRD Alright. So Antonio stepped up. He has scored the first goal, right? It's my turn. It's my turn. There it… ANTONIO NERI it is. It is easy to score without a keeper. You can't miss the goal. That will be, that would be bad. Okay. Bad. There you go. There you go. MICHAEL BIRD We both scored. Okay. Okay. Penalty one done. Uh, we both scored fantastic. It's all to play for still. Um, now Antonio, we are of course in Barcelona this week for HP Discover Barcelona. What are the big highlights for you this year? ANTONIO NERI Well, uh, another great event. Um, you know, we, we had, uh, over 5,000 customers joining us, uh, and partners the level of, uh, interest, incredible high, obviously on the back of the closing of the Juniper transaction. What I'm really proud that we show up in, in force. Uh, the amount of innovation we brought to the market is very, very, very strong. A number of, I think, her turning announcements, you know, um, one with Nvidia and one with a MD. But I think the other part was the fact that we, in such a short period of time, demonstrated immense process. Between Juniper and Aruba, networking now being one integrated organization. And you know, there we saw things like, uh, the AI ops and, um, first to market with the latest technologies on the data center switching, uh, leveraging our cooling technologies. So I think, uh, for me is, is all about accelerating what is next? And from the innovation perspective, I think it was just remarkable. MICHAEL BIRD And from my understand, there are sort of three big themes in this year's keynote. Can you just talk through those? ANTONIO NERI Yeah. It's the, the themes where we play and we want to win, which is networking cloud and ai. Excellent. In the networking space, obviously the combination JPA and Aruba and then obviously in AI is continue the journey on GreenLake and AI is being able to serve all customer segments. MICHAEL BIRD Mm-hmm. Okay. Antonio, it's time for another penalty shot number two. Number ANTONIO NERI number two. MICHAEL BIRD So that goal went straight in. Went straight in. It's now, uh, it's now of the two shots. Antonio has scored two of them. ANTONIO NERI pressure. Oh, that's bad. That's bad. That's bad. That's,really bad that ball went, went straight over. Straight to the side. MICHAEL BIRD So well done for scoring. I, um, I donated a football to, uh, summer over there. ANTONIO NERI Yeah, the little, little, you know, forest there. MICHAEL BIRD yeah, that was, that wasn't the, the greater shot. Um, but. I would like to talk networking, 'cause you mentioned networking clouds and ai. Um, but yeah, can you just sort of give us a sense of where the world of networking is today? ANTONIO NERI Well, I think networking now is trying to catch up to the disruption we saw both in compute and storage, uh, with AI. Um, two years ago, obviously we achieved the breakthrough, with the large language models. That was all driven by the compute accelerators, But when I think about the ability to scale and scale securely, um, networking need to catch up to the demands of ai. And, and this is where HP with Juniper has a unique opportunity to provide customers complete solutions. And, um, at this event, we introduced the first OEM switch with TOMA six. That's the Juniper QFX 52 50. But you know, when you look at that product, it's the first liquid. Cool. Uh, switching at scale. Wow. And, you know, it's gonna deliver over a hundred terabytes per second capacity on the 1.6, uh, terabyte, uh, silicon that's just been introduced. So I think that demonstrates market leadership and momentum together with our, um, you know, computing business. MICHAEL BIRD And, and how has the Juniper acquisition changed the way we think about networking as an organization? ANTONIO NERI Well, we knew this when I. Uh, start thinking about pursuing Juniper. I knew that the next inflection point will have to take place at the networking layer of the stack. Uh, because when you put together where you chain tens of thousands of GPUs and you need to do it in a low latency kind of approach, um, you know, the bottleneck is gonna be the, the, the, the network. And this is where I thought between the. You know, the, in UK intellectual property we have in our rack scale architecture, um, with Juniper ip, particular data center switching and wide data network. 'cause we can't forget the, the aggregation layers in the data center and then data center interconnect between data centers. Those are essential technologies for the future. I thought that will be a terrific combination and it's proven to be the right acquisition. Uh, hear a lot of interest from Sovereign, which is gonna be a source of tremendous growth for us going forward. Yeah. MICHAEL BIRD And, and how does security play into the way that we think about networking these days? ANTONIO NERI if you look at the edge in the campus and branch, you know, when we think about providing a connectivity to a user to wifi. That has to be a secure connectivity. And so from that perspective, you know, we did, uh, amazing things with Aruba Networking with Acquisition Silver Peak. Um, you know, Juniper has unique technologies that will give us the most complete secure connectivity at the edge. And in the data center, you also have to do a testation across the entire stack because you're moving a lot of data and you're processing a lot of. Uh, you know, uh, tokens while you train the system. So, from that vantage point, I believe that needs to be integrated and AI plays a big role because AI gives you the ability to manage telemetry, a scale that we never imagined before. MICHAEL BIRD Okay. I, I wanna ask you about cloud in a second, but before we do, so it's time for another penalty. MICHAEL BIRD mic. Oh, straight in. Antonio that one straight to the back of the net. Nice and clean. So, third shot. Here we go. Oh. Here, the crossbar. ANTONIO NERI Clearly you are British. Now we are calling the Argentinian way. is easy. MICHAEL BIRD Penalty three. Antonio, uh, the burs, you, you scored? I hit the crossbar, which was still, I'd say quite impressive if that's what I was aiming for, which I Yeah. Um, so well done. And it's, the current score is ANTONIO NERI three one. I'm keeping track. MICHAEL BIRD current, the current scores. It's three one. It's still all to play for. It's still all to play for. All right, so let's talk about cloud. What are the big changes in the world of cloud computing? Is cloud still a thing in the world of ai? ANTONIO NERI Absolutely. Um, you know, we believe AI is the definition of the hybrid workload. You know, data lives everywhere and you need to bring the data to train or influence these models. And so that's an example of why you need a hybrid strategy. And, um, cloud at the core is still an experience is all about speed and agility. But ultimately you need to do it in a way that takes advantage of all your data and all the capabilities, whether it's on-prem and off-prem. And so for us, the continued development of HP GreenLake has been a huge success. It's being recognized today by even Gardner as, uh, one of the. Market leaders. Um, and particularly in the consumption model, we are the market leader, but, uh, for us it's bringing the software and the AI capabilities to the platform. MICHAEL BIRD We're hearing a lot about sovereignty, particularly as it relates to cloud and data. Like is this something that you are hearing, uh, or you are seeing more of these days? ANTONIO NERI Absolutely. You see here in Europe mm-hmm. Uh, with the regulations, the, the geopolitical tensions, the ability to get access to technology is driving huge demand for sovereignty. Uh, and so when we think about individual European countries or the European Union as a whole. Yeah, they're gonna make huge amount of investments to build the capabilities to maintain their sovereignty and protect their data. Yeah. And the, the, the AI clouds of the future will be not generic, will be more verticalized for industrial, for healthcare, for defense, uh, you name it. So HP has the trust, it has the brand. And, you know, uh, we just announced this week, uh, another sovereign, uh, supercomputer. we have the brand and the people, uh, that can do this for, for this, uh, sovereign entities. And that's why I believe when you think about 26, 27, 28, much of our growth will come from sovereign and enterprise, not the service providers. MICHAEL BIRD And what other trends, what other trends are we seeing in cloud at the moment? ANTONIO NERI Well, I think, you know, uh, enterprises are trying to think how they get access to this technology in a way is cost effective and get the faster return on investment capital. Because for them it's all about time to value. So we went from large language models, you know, which are very monolithic to now what we call the agentic enterprise. We are smaller languages stitched together. They automate a complete workflow. And they deliver quicker results, quicker outcomes. And so from, from that perspective, you know, that's what is required. And the cloud allows them to decide whether to do some small training or inferencing on-prem or at the edge or in the cloud. And that's where the GreenLake with our private cloud enterprise factories, uh, brings to bear. MICHAEL BIRD you, you touched on GreenLake, but I'd be interested to sort of, sort of understand like where does GreenLake fit into to fit into all of this ANTONIO NERI It is at the center of the strategy because whether you deploy a traditional server, and obviously we have amazing now products with generation 11 and 12, or whether you deploy the latest, uh, instantiation of HPL letter MP where it's block or unstructured data, uh, with our X 10,000. Or whether you deploy the private cloud virtualization with our morphos enterprise and VM essentials, or whether it's their AI factory for enterprise with private cloud ai. All that experience is connect and delivered to HP GreenLake in addition to the fact that the entire networking portfolio is already connected to GreenLake. MICHAEL BIRD Okay. I want, I wanna ask you about ai, but before we do that, we have one more, another penalty to take. Okay. Uh, be our penalty shot four. Here we go. ANTONIO NERI Alright. Just easy. No, easy and easy. No need to, uh, you know. Overdo it MICHAEL BIRD There you go ANTONIO NERI Hit the crossbar again. There you- MICHAEL BIRD All right, MICHAEL BIRD Four one. Uh, I'll hit the crossbar again. Um, quite impressive. You just scored another very clean goal. So think ANTONIO NERI you were fixated with those trees in the back. I dunno why I MICHAEL BIRD think I was. Yeah. Uh, ANTONIO NERI The ball low. No high. my kicks have been always low. maybe not even a foot from the ground. MICHAEL BIRD I think I was clearly I was going for glory. Yeah. Um, and uh, hit the crossbar. So, um, I would say it's all to play for, but it's not really all to play for. So as always, artificial intelligence is a huge topic. So let's talk about ai. Um, where is AI today? ANTONIO NERI Well, I think, um, you know, um, six, nine months a year ago was still nascent and only, you know, uh, in the hands of few but now is, is, is much more adopted broad adoption, and we see that in enterprise. When you think about our, our, our numbers, more than 60% of our bookings already come from enterprise and sovereign. MICHAEL BIRD and, and why is sovereign AI so in demand at the moment? ANTONIO NERI Well, because obviously we live in a world where, you know, uh, there is tension everywhere. And, you know, mastering this technology is gonna give a competitive advantage. Mm-hmm. Uh, at the same time, you know, you're here in Spain, part of the European Union, uh, they have much stringent, uh, regulations about data and data privacy and data sovereignty. So with GreenLake and our private cloud factor, we not only we can give a cloud experience, but also we can give a disconnected air gap solution. Hmm. So I, I think, you know, customers are looking how I protect my data and yet preserve my culture. Because if your model is trained by a US company, great, you can do pre-training of that, but ultimately you want to give your identity and that identity is only in your country, in your, in your geo. MICHAEL BIRD Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Now, in your keynote you talk about, um, quantum computing working with ai. How do these two sometimes feel like quite separate technologies go hand in hand? ANTONIO NERI Yeah, I mean, uh, if you think about it, in the last 50 years or so, we went from the mainframe to the PC client era to, you know, mobile to cloud computing, to now, uh, accelerated computing with ai and in the future cl uh, quantum computing and all of them are working together, you know, sometimes, you know, um, one more than other one. But I think, you know, the research, uh, uh, entities already deploying quantum computing. And we have done work where we have connected, you know, quantum computers to traditional computing or quantum computing to high performance computing, which is the most logical because. It is way more cost effective today to still driving simulation and training on a high performance computing than a quantum computing. Quantum computing needs to scale. The cost has to come down significantly, but there are aspects where the quantum computing can take unique task, accelerate the outcome, and give it back to a kind of a traditional computing or high performance computing. MICHAEL BIRD AI perspective, are there any exciting projects that we're currently working on? ANTONIO NERI We always work in exciting projects, but I think, you know, the ones that excite me are the ones we are using for ourselves. And so we have now accelerated deployment of AI across the company. We have over 700 use cases. Uh, that we are analyzing some already in proof of concept, but they are already a hundred. They're in production. Uh, whether it is in marketing for, you know, understanding leads and, and managing those leads all the way to finance with account receivable, payables, forecast planning in our global operations. Uh, services obviously is a, is a big user of ai. And then, you know, we use AI for our products. You know, e every product we ship today. Or every pro, every solution we build has AIOps embedded to it. And Herena discover, we showed, uh, an enormous amount of usage of AI everywhere. I think, you know, what you're gonna see in 26 and 27 is better integration between our networking business and our, um, you know, AI s scale business with Neil. So the work that Neil McDonald and Ram are gonna do together is gonna be essential, especially in the context of sovereign AI clouds, because we can get them entire AI data center solutions at scale. And, obviously continue to move upwards between generative AI agent AI to. More the robotic side, the physical AI and HPE has unique expertise there, understanding manufacturing processes, how to use AI in those environments. MICHAEL BIRD Okay. Antonio, it's time for the, ANTONIO NERI the last one. MICHAEL BIRD the final, the final penalty. Um, again, it's not all to play for, you've definitely won, but, you know, let's, let's, let's see how we get on. ANTONIO NERI You want me to miss this one? MICHAEL BIRD No, no, no, no. We could just do this all day, couldn't we? Yeah. ANTONIO NERI Yeah. Look, this is an easy job. MICHAEL BIRD Oh, you're lucky that went in. You're lucky that went in ANTONIO NERI It's to against the pole. Easy for the keeper. MICHAEL BIRD Hard to get there. There we go. There we go. Finally. Okay. I think we lost ANTONIO NERI five, two. MICHAEL BIRD Yeah. So I think, uh, I think you scored all five and I scored three. Two. I score two. MICHAEL BIRD Penalty shoot out. Done the final, final shot. You scored again and I finally got another goal in, um, so we ended on five two. ANTONIO NERI was predictable. Predictable. Tell. Maybe he didn't need AI for that, but that's okay. MICHAEL BIRD Maybe, um, maybe we can have a, a sort of a competition next. Uh, and we'll get a goal… ANTONIO NERI a goal. Goal with a keeper. MICHAEL BIRD And we'll get a keeper. Yeah. And, um, and I'll maybe do some training. I've got 12 months ANTONIO NERI train, so it's okay. MICHAEL BIRD we'll, we'll try that again. Um, alright, well, I'd like to finish on a, on a big question. After our, our big competition. We've recently celebrated 10 years of HPE. Where do you see the company going in the next 10 years? ANTONIO NERI Well, I think, you know, uh, the first. Phase of our next day in 10 years is maximize the value of the acquisition of Juniper Networks. I think, uh, that gives us something that others don't have and honestly, uh, it will be shame on us if don't take advantage of that unique opportunity. Making this type of acquisition takes enormous amount of work, and the team is incredible committed, and just in five months we made remarkable progress. Uh, I'm very pleased with, uh, the integration of the Juniper employees in the company. You can see they have the same beliefs, the same culture. They're all focused on customers, all focused on winning. And so it's all about winning. To be honest with you, for us, uh, the past decade was about transformation setting up ourself for to win for success, and this next three years is gonna dictate. How strong we're gonna be in the next 10, 10 years. And therefore it's all about execution. MICHAEL BIRD Antonio, thank you so much for coming back on technology now. Thanks for being such a good sport and, uh, and for being on the show. ANTONIO NERI No, thank you and beautiful day here, sunny. A little bit chilly, but I'm pleased with my, uh, win today and, uh, you know, hopefully next year we're gonna do a, a retake of this. Yeah. In MICHAEL BIRD 12 months I'll see ANTONIO NERI And we have a keeper SAM JARRELL That was a really fantastic interview, Michael. I quite enjoyed you and Antonio's matching jerseys. MICHAEL BIRD Yeah. Yeah. It, it was pretty good actually. Pretty good. And, um, I liked how that led into the, the 10 year discussion, the conversation about our 10 year anniversary, a 10 year birthday as a company. Um, it's been, I know it feels like quite an exciting time, doesn't it? SAM JARRELL Yeah, I would agree. I think it's been kind of crazy to see where we've come over the last decade. I mean, when we formed, uh, as our own company, we boldly declared that the world would be hybrid in terms of it, and it was in 2018. During that Discover, Antonio, uh, announced our investment of. Several billion dollars into the edge. And then now we've acquired Juniper and we've really become the edge to cloud company and are transforming into a major networking business. It's, it's nuts. MICHAEL BIRD Yeah. Talk. Speaking of networking, uh, Antonio talked about the liquid cool switches, which I think is really cool. Really cool. I didn't mean to make that pun, but Yeah. I mean, I just thought about getting performance 'cause we, we talked about liquid cooling on this podcast before, you know? SAM JARRELL You sat in a bathtub. I think MICHAEL BIRD I sat in a bathtub. yeah, liquid called switches. I think that's just, it's just really cool the fact that we're really pushing the boundaries of what can be done. Um, and oh, and the other thing we talked about, which I thought was really cool, was, uh, AI and quantum. So just sort of the connecting both of those together. I think he talked about, uh, a super computer and you maybe have like a quantum accelerator, so like quantum would do like the quantum calculations and pass it to a, a high performance computer to sort of do something with that information. SAM JARRELL I love that. And it's cool, isn't it? It, it is cool. It's, I don't know, it's exciting to know too, like we're one of the companies that provides the supercomputers that are needed to do those types of things. Like a cap ton at number one, uh, frontier at number two, and then Aurora at number three. So to be behind some of the, the scientific breakthroughs. I don't know. It makes me feel inspired. MICHAEL BIRD now the elephant in the room, I suppose is my terrible performance kicking footballs. SAM JARRELL Yeah. Michael, I'm really sorry. I think, I think you're gonna have to keep your day job. You, you had a rough go out there, but Antonio did really, really well. Like, I was, I was shocked, MICHAEL BIRD but I was quite pleased with how, how many times I managed to hit the crossbar. Like if that was the competition, I would've scored two points. SAM JARRELL FC Barcelona. Pick Michael Bird up MICHAEL BIRD So Sam, there is more to football than just a, just a football kit. Mm-hmm. Um, and um, I think, you know, Anton's quite a big football fan. SAM JARRELL Oh yeah. I'm pretty sure he plays, doesn't he? MICHAEL BIRD Yeah. Yeah. When we finished the interview and we were packing up, he said to me, I, I play every Sunday. And I thought, yeah. Yeah, I, I probably shouldn't have agreed to do this. I, I barely play once a year, so. Yeah. Uh, I think it, that's the reason why he, he won. Um, but anyway, as a, as a sort of a token of our appreciation, as a thank you to Antonio, uh, we got him a little gift as a sort of a thank you for agreeing to, to go and do the podcast. MICHAEL BIRD Antonio, we have a little present for you, little gift for you. Um, as well as the football shirt. Uh, we know that you're the CEO of hp, which is sort of like a captain. Uh, so we have got you a Captain's arm. Oh, there you go. Perfect. Look at that. It's totally up to you, but um, if you want to wear that during the keynote. ANTONIO NERI No MICHAEL BIRD That be it's, it's an option. It's an option. If you'd like to, I ANTONIO NERI Hold this on. Let's see this one. It's actually the real MICHAEL BIRD it is, it is the real captain's armband. Yeah ANTONIO NERI Yeah, it's the real thing. There you MICHAEL BIRD Look at that. And, and that, that is also your prize for winning the penalty. Shoot out. There you go. Look at that. ANTONIO NERI Look at this. So MICHAEL BIRD as the, uh, as the CEO of HP and sort of our captain, we've got you the captain's armband. ANTONIO NERI Appreciate it. Okay. I'm gonna treasure and I'm gonna keep it, I'm gonna treasure, but, uh. Yeah, this is actually the, the, the original one. 'cause the other day a guy came out to the pitch and gave the, the captain and I noticed, is this the same with a Catalonia flag? MICHAEL BIRD Exactly. ANTONIO NERI Yeah. Excellent. Thank you. MICHAEL BIRD Thank you very much. SAM JARRELL Okay that brings us to the end of Technology Now for this week. Michael, if you get soccer shirts again, I’d like one next time.., Thank you to our guest, Antonio Neri And of course, to our listeners. Thank you so much for joining us. MICHAEL BIRD If you’ve enjoyed this episode, please do let us know – rate and review us wherever you listen to episodes and if you want to get in contact with us, send us an email to technology now AT hpe.com and don’t forget to subscribe so you can listen first every week. Subject line. Penalty shootout. Technology Now is hosted by Sam Jarrell and myself, Michael Bird This episode was produced by Harry Lampert, Izzie Clarke, Alysha Kempson-Taylor and Karl Norberg with production support from Beckie Bird, Branson Tarr, Spencer Trinwith, Alissa Mitry, and Renee Edwards. Our video editor was Alex van Duyn and our theme music was composed by Greg Hooper. SAM JARRELL Our social editorial team is Rebecca Wissinger, Judy-Anne Goldman and Jacqueline Green and our social media designers are Alejandra Garcia, and Ambar Maldonado. MICHAEL BIRD Technology Now is a Fresh Air Production for Hewlett Packard Enterprise. (and) we’ll see you next week. Cheers! 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