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New Year, Same Old LNC · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Nurdron Collider Podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: And Happy twenty twenty five. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me,
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  Speaker 1: as always is the super crazy, awesome Jonathan Strickland. Happy
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  Speaker 1: New Year, Happy New Year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a question for you, like I
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  Speaker 2: forgot to put one together for you this time. I've already.
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  Speaker 2: It's because it's been so long since we recorded, like
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  Speaker 2: all the holidays hit and we were on hiatus because
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  Speaker 2: we were all traveling and seeing family or hiding from family,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it may be. So I just totally I dropped
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  Speaker 2: the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's a that's okay, it's thematic for the New Year.
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  Speaker 1: Dropping balls, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, balls like crazy Areel. I've been dropping balls
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  Speaker 2: left and right. But that's because I'm a juggler, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want you all to think Also, I like
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  Speaker 2: tea bagging people and halo.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, that's horrible. That should be your New Yares's
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  Speaker 1: resolution to not do that.
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  Speaker 2: I thought my New's resolution is clearly to get an
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  Speaker 2: explicit tag on this podcast, We're still I'm still dancing
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  Speaker 2: around it. I'm not nearly as explicit as even the
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  Speaker 2: most mildly explicit show. How were your holidays, Ariel, We
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  Speaker 2: haven't really like talked very much.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't. They were pretty good. Traveled to visit family,
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  Speaker 1: and then we came home and we did our own
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  Speaker 1: personal Christmas on New Year's Day, so Christmas Eve was
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  Speaker 1: also New Year's Eve, so that was fun. Baked a
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  Speaker 1: lot of cookies. I found out that a short film
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  Speaker 1: that I'll be doing will be uh screening at the
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  Speaker 1: Cobb International Festival Indie Night this year, so it's cool. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so because I just thought it, like, I knew it
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  Speaker 1: was screening, but I didn't know it was a part
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  Speaker 1: of that series. So that's really cool. I probably will
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  Speaker 1: still not like watching myself in it, but that is
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  Speaker 1: no comment on the quality of this of the filmmaking,
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  Speaker 1: just on my meritical opinion of myself.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same as if, like I mean, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: our listeners out there have all had the experience of
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  Speaker 2: listening to themselves on a recording and thinking, oh I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to hear this. It's the same sort of thing,
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  Speaker 2: but magnified a billion times when it's on a giant
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  Speaker 2: screen and you're also in a room full of people
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  Speaker 2: you don't know watching it as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So other than that, you know good, I'm
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  Speaker 1: already like I'm I don't know if you do this
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  Speaker 1: or if any of our listeners do this, but I like,
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  Speaker 1: I have to be productive and I will overschedule myself,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm trying to find a way to get all
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  Speaker 1: the things done in a healthier manner without scheduling down
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  Speaker 1: to the minute every day and having too much to do.
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  Speaker 2: Still yeah yeah, because then like you'll feel crappy because
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  Speaker 2: either you've exhausted yourself because you've worked every single second
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  Speaker 2: of the day, or more likely, you weren't able to
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  Speaker 2: get to everything because stuff sometimes takes longer than you
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  Speaker 2: think it will, and then you feel like you haven't
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  Speaker 2: accomplished anything because something on your list didn't get checked off.
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  Speaker 2: At least that's how it is for me. Like, I'm also, however,
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  Speaker 2: the type of person who, when I think we've talked
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  Speaker 2: about this before, when I make a checklist, the first
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  Speaker 2: thing I put on there is make a checklist, so
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  Speaker 2: I immediately have something I can check off.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. That is pretty awesome. How are your holidays?
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  Speaker 2: They were all right. You know. We had some time
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  Speaker 2: with my family this year and that was nice. We
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  Speaker 2: got to meet sort of from a distance. My parents
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  Speaker 2: have a new doggie. But the doggie clearly came from
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  Speaker 2: a really abusive situation and was actually scheduled to be euthanized,
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  Speaker 2: and my parents adopted her like hours before she was
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  Speaker 2: to be euthanized. And she she's a pity mix, but
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  Speaker 2: she's so timid, and she doesn't want to come near anyone,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, you don't want to make eye contact
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  Speaker 2: because it'll intimidate her. So it's gonna take some time
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  Speaker 2: for her to come out of her shell. But she
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  Speaker 2: looks like a very sweet dog. It's just gonna take
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  Speaker 2: a lot of patience to get her to a point
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  Speaker 2: where she's comfortable. So I hope that she's able to
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  Speaker 2: reach that point without it taking too long, because she
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  Speaker 2: looks she looks like she really deserves like the good life.
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  Speaker 1: So I would say she's got a couple of really
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  Speaker 1: wonderful people looking after her, so I'm sure it won't.
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  Speaker 2: Take too that's true. Mom and Dad are the best
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  Speaker 2: and we ended up almost all the gifts we gave
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  Speaker 2: my parents were actually for the dogs. They gave him,
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  Speaker 2: like a huge fluffy dog bed for their new dog.
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  Speaker 2: Her name is Gracie. She's very cute.
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  Speaker 1: So your parents, Sorry, I keep derailing you, but do
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  Speaker 1: your parents have that thing where they're like, we have
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  Speaker 1: enough stuff, we don't want more stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Because I think everyone in my family has reached that point.
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  Speaker 2: I think everybody like and yet we every year we
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  Speaker 2: end up getting stuff, Like even the people who have
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  Speaker 2: are in the exact same situation continue to give us stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But part of that, my mom explained was that she
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  Speaker 2: turned to retail therapy to kind of deal with anxiety
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  Speaker 2: issues toward the end of the year for reasons I
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  Speaker 2: won't go into, but I'm sure you can imagine. So anyway, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so we ended up with lots of little things. Did
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  Speaker 2: you get anything particularly geeky as a president this year?
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean to put you on the spot. I
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  Speaker 2: should have asked you this beforehand.
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  Speaker 1: It's totally fine. I got a Lego reef for my birthday,
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  Speaker 1: which is right before Christmas, so it counts. And I
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  Speaker 1: got an airbrush kit for baking. That's kay. It's art.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's really cool though, Like I have
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  Speaker 2: yet to have any of your baked goods. One of
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  Speaker 2: these days I've got to fix that.
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  Speaker 1: Because do you like peanut butter cookies?
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  Speaker 2: I love peanut butter. They're actually my favorite kind of cookie.
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  Speaker 1: Because I made peanut butter cookies with like a peanut
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  Speaker 1: butter ganash and then a homemade strawberry jam in them.
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  Speaker 1: Ye rush, So it's like they they taste like a
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  Speaker 1: peeb and J Like when they were still warm, it
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  Speaker 1: just tasted like a gooey cookie sandwich. But uh yeah, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: I gave them too, And this is this is not
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like a brag, but it's really not because
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  Speaker 1: I was actually a little sad. They're like, you could
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  Speaker 1: you could have just not made the rest of your cookies,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, thanks, well, you know, lesson learned, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: but I will make you at some point and get them.
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  Speaker 2: I would love that. Like, yeah, if you're ever like thinking,
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  Speaker 2: like what kind of cookies to Chaathan, Like I so
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  Speaker 2: basic sugar cookies. I still like. I like chocolate chip cookies.
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  Speaker 2: I love peanut butter cookies. Anything that's like key lime
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. I dig those two, but just don't don't
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  Speaker 2: ever present me an oatmeal cookie, because I will figure
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  Speaker 2: that's just your message of saying I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be around you anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's sad. I love like a soft oatmeal raisin,
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  Speaker 1: not so much as a dessert more as like a breakfast.
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  Speaker 2: I just find I find oatmeal raisin deeply and personally
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  Speaker 2: offensive because it could have been a chocolate chip.
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  Speaker 1: But my friend brought over yesterday like these spiced, crispy
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  Speaker 1: oatmeal cookies with chocolate chips in them, and they were delicious.
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  Speaker 2: I will say that this was the first year I
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  Speaker 2: remember actually liking gingerbread cookies. Like, for the longest time,
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  Speaker 2: gingerbread was right up there with oatmeal cookies and that
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't be bothered with them. But I kind of
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  Speaker 2: developed taste for them this year, so that was fun.
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  Speaker 2: Part of it was that my parents had some really
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  Speaker 2: incredible gingerbread cookies that actually had some icing or frosting
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  Speaker 2: on the top of them, and those were really good.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and they were still kind of soft, like
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  Speaker 2: they weren't those super hard, brittle gingerbread cookies, which are
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  Speaker 2: also okay. But because they had a good chew to them.
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  Speaker 2: I really liked them a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. I found out I don't like molasses because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I put it in my gingerbread and it tasted so bitter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I imagine molasses is a tricky thing to
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  Speaker 2: work with without it getting too bitter because it's got
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  Speaker 2: such a like that burnt sugar taste to it, almost
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  Speaker 2: kind of like a like kind of like if you
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  Speaker 2: make a caramel, but you burn the caramel while you're
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  Speaker 2: making it and then it went.
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  Speaker 1: Bad and it fell into some like kerosene.
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  Speaker 2: I got involved with the wrong crowds, started smoking behind.
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  Speaker 1: The schoolather jacket. Yeah, you know the kind, the kind Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think for me, the geekiest thing I
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  Speaker 2: got was actually a gift given to me by Shaye
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  Speaker 2: Lee's partner. Friend of the show, Shay Lee, her partner,
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  Speaker 2: gave me a Bluetooth beanie. Oh cool. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: beanie like a stocking cap that you wear on your head,
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  Speaker 2: and it's got headphone speakers built into either side of it,
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  Speaker 2: so you can connect it to your phone and use
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  Speaker 2: it to listen to podcasts and stuff without having earbuds
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  Speaker 2: or headphones on and just have it on the Beanie,
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  Speaker 2: and considering that about every third day it's cold here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the weather has been somewhat somewhat malleable over the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. We had like a day the other
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  Speaker 2: day was almost seventy degree, actually was over seventy and
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  Speaker 2: now it's like in the fifties right now, but it.
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  Speaker 1: Was, yeah, and then it's going to get into the
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  Speaker 1: thirties for a few days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So having the Beanie as an option is good,
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  Speaker 2: and it means that I can still listen to two shows.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I've been doing. But yeah, so let's
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about some of the stuff we've watched this
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  Speaker 2: last time we recorded, and I'm sure there's more than
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  Speaker 2: what I have on here, but I just put in
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  Speaker 2: the stuff I could remember. And so one of the
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  Speaker 2: things I watched was Nosfarato, which.
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  Speaker 1: Came out and.
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  Speaker 2: There's more than Yes nosfora too. I also nosfa I
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  Speaker 2: saw it on a couple of days after Christmas, but
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  Speaker 2: I saw it at home because I had a screener
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  Speaker 2: for it. Not a brag, but being part of the
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  Speaker 2: Writer's Guild of America means occasionally get screeners. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: I watched it at home. I made me wish I
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  Speaker 2: had gone to the theater to see it, because it
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  Speaker 2: is very much a theatrical experience. I can't say, I
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  Speaker 2: guess I was entertained by it. It's one of those
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  Speaker 2: where I'm like, I didn't find it that I found
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  Speaker 2: things about it really distracting. So a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: acting choices, like the physical acting in particular, were incredibly
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  Speaker 2: theatrical and in a way that in a way that
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  Speaker 2: didn't say cinematic to me, it said more theater. So
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  Speaker 2: it stood out and it distracted me. But then I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: that could be an homage to the silent film original Nosferatu,
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  Speaker 2: Like they were kind of doing a throwback to what
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  Speaker 2: you would see in the old silent film era when
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  Speaker 2: you didn't have sound to enhance the film experience and
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  Speaker 2: everything was much more melodramatic. So maybe that was it.
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  Speaker 2: But it was combined with a lot of modern filmmaking
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  Speaker 2: techniques and effects, and so it just was hard for
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  Speaker 2: me to make those cohere in my brain. I know
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people loved it. I just found like
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  Speaker 2: I found like it was too flavors that never quite
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  Speaker 2: mixed for me.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, Like I heard mixed reviews. I heard that it's
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  Speaker 1: very cinematically beautiful, but that it was a little too long.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hear about the very theatrical acting, but I
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  Speaker 1: did watch a short like social media interview with Nicholas
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  Speaker 1: Holt where he said that Chris Eggers is the director
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  Speaker 1: Robert Eggers. Robert Eggers told him not to move his
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  Speaker 1: eyebrows so much, which is a habit to do.
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  Speaker 2: Don't be like Denarest Targerian. Yeah, I would recommend it
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  Speaker 2: if you're of the right age, because it's definitely an
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  Speaker 2: adult movie. I would recommend it for horror fans or
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  Speaker 2: fans like Actually, the film I would compare it to
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  Speaker 2: for more reasons than one is Bram Stoker's Dracula, the
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  Speaker 2: Francis Ford Coppola movie. Because Francis Ford Coppola, he incorporated
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  Speaker 2: so many class film effects, like in camera film effects
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  Speaker 2: in this movie. I found those really distracting. When I
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  Speaker 2: watched that the first time, I was like, I get
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  Speaker 2: that you like all these tricks, but you're putting them
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  Speaker 2: so close together, like they're happening in such such proximity
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  Speaker 2: that I couldn't concentrate on the actual content of the movie.
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  Speaker 2: I felt similar to that with Nosferatu, but that may
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  Speaker 2: just be my own and no one else in the
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  Speaker 2: world may feel the same way, and that's totally fine.
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  Speaker 1: I also, wait, sorry, I have one more question.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Would it be too much for me?
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  Speaker 2: I like Dracula, but there'll be parts where you would
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  Speaker 2: want to look away. There'll be parts I will say
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  Speaker 2: it's not Shae rated.
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  Speaker 1: Shay.
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  Speaker 2: Shay won't watch anything in which there's a child endangerment
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  Speaker 2: or death, and that definitely is a thing insta.
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  Speaker 1: I know there's I know there's some animal grossness and
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  Speaker 1: I don't like.
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  Speaker 2: That, but there's a little bit of animal grossness. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's one segment that's like just an obvious, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: his arms have gone down so they can swap out
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  Speaker 2: the live animal he was holding with a fake version
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  Speaker 2: of the animal so that he can do something terrible
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  Speaker 2: to it when he raises his arms back. But it's
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  Speaker 2: clearly fake. Like I was like, it's so like it's
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't even thinking about the movie at that point.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about the filmmaking at that point, so
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of crazy. I also finished What We
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  Speaker 2: Do in the Shadows. I watched the last season of
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  Speaker 2: that really enjoyed. It felt that the last episode was
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  Speaker 2: very fan servicing, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
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  Speaker 2: I actually really liked the ending, even though I recognized
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  Speaker 2: as being total fan service. And I've just started watching
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  Speaker 2: Squid Game two. I'm into episode four, and I got say,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's more tense than the first season.
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  Speaker 1: I think they were going to give it a happier ending.
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  Speaker 2: Oooh boy. Okay, So there's arguably little tiny bits of
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  Speaker 2: humor in maybe the first three episodes, but not much.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty grim and dark, and then out of nowhere
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  Speaker 2: an episode four, there's kind of a zany, wacky moment
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  Speaker 2: that like complete with wacky music in the background, And
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  Speaker 2: as I was watching it unfold, I was thinking, this
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  Speaker 2: doesn't fit like you've been You've been hummeling me for
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  Speaker 2: three episodes with how dark this world is, and then
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  Speaker 2: like to have this little comedy bit, complete with comedy
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  Speaker 2: music in the background, just feels totally out of place.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know, again, maybe that's just me.
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  Speaker 1: I only watched like the first few episodes of the
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  Speaker 1: first season because, like you said, it's really bleak. But
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  Speaker 1: I did see that the main character comes back to
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  Speaker 1: the second season because of trailers. So my assumption is
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  Speaker 1: if it's not getting happier each season, that the main
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  Speaker 1: character is becoming dexter, because if you keep going back
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  Speaker 1: to this game where you know everybody else is gonna die,
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  Speaker 1: then you're basically becoming a serial killer.
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  Speaker 2: Essentially, this isn't really a spoiler. Essentially, his decision is
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  Speaker 2: merited in he wants to actually find who is who
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  Speaker 2: is perpetuating these games and to stop that person and
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  Speaker 2: to try and hopefully stop people from getting killed, like
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  Speaker 2: to try and convince people, hey, you're being manipulated. This
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  Speaker 2: is all being done for their entertainment. This is not
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  Speaker 2: being done for your welfare, Like that's not a part
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  Speaker 2: of it at all. That your suffering is their entertainment
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  Speaker 2: and your participation in this enables them to do it,
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  Speaker 2: and that it makes way more sense to walk away
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  Speaker 2: than to play the games. But of course, when you
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  Speaker 2: have all these people who are in desperate situations and
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  Speaker 2: they're being promised a chance to pay off the debts
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  Speaker 2: that they owe, it's hard for them to just walk away.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it kind of becomes like it reminds
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  Speaker 2: me a little bit of the Matrix film, specifically the
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  Speaker 2: second Matrix film, where it becomes like it's a philosophical
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  Speaker 2: argument being had by by two different points of view.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got the winner of the first season where
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  Speaker 2: he's essentially saying this is wrong. People are better than
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  Speaker 2: what you give them credit for. They're not trash or animals.
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  Speaker 2: You can't just dismiss them, you know. The other side
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  Speaker 2: it's like, hey, they made a choice. They chose to
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  Speaker 2: be here. We didn't force them to be here. We
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  Speaker 2: just gave them a choice. And the guy's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you're not really giving them a choice. You're promising them
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  Speaker 2: something that they that you know, more than ninety nine
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  Speaker 2: percent of them cannot achieve by the way the games
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  Speaker 2: are constructed. So it's kind of like that, and I
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  Speaker 2: think I think it's also going to be based on
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  Speaker 2: what I've seen, it will play out where one of
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  Speaker 2: the guys who's running the games is purposefully trying to
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  Speaker 2: break that character and to make him admit that you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's wrong, and that that the games are totally fine
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  Speaker 2: because they're just giving people a choice. And that's the
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  Speaker 2: impression I get. We'll see if that's how it plays
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: out as it continues on. I will say like I've
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed it other than like it does highlight major differences
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  Speaker 2: in performance styles between like South Korea and the Western world.
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  Speaker 2: But the first season did that too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, especially if you, because we watched it not
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  Speaker 1: with subtitles but with vo dubbing dubbing, So especially then
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  Speaker 1: because even even in the voice acting that goes over it,
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  Speaker 1: it tends to have a bit more of a melodramatic
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  Speaker 1: tinge to it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: That's one about you.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I did not watched Good Games. I actually almost did.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I watched the final season of what If, and it
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: is my favorite season of what If. I loved it
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: pretty much from beginning to end. I thought that all
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: of the episodes were super strong. They just had it
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: feels like they just had fun with it, which I love.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: And I want you to catch up on what If
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: so you can watch season three because there is you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: it's an anthology series, but there is also a through
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: line because it's following that main watcher guy. And I
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: know you like what If, so I think you would
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: really love the ending of it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I definitely need to catch it because it was
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: one of those things where I was like, I enjoyed
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the first season, and I agree, Like even in the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: first season you started to see a tiny bit of
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: a narrative through line. Yeah, but yeah, I I just
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: gotta get I just got to get to it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: They're like like every episode you're gonna be like, oh
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I love this, because I was like, oh I love this,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Jonathan would love this.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I promise I'll have this one scooch ahead of New
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Girl for a while.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine. If you've you've given it a chance,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and if you don't like it, you could drop it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah I haven't. I haven't watched very many episodes of
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: a New Girl, maybe like seven or eight.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not like Lost where you have to
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: get to ten.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Starts getting good.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like when the others show up. I've scarred a
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: few friends that way. No, Like, the relationships definitely do
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: develop and get better over time, and the characters become
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: likable and there's inside jokes and it becomes very wonderful,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: but you know, there is that growing pain at the beginning.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I've watched half of Secret Level and another anthology series,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: This one's on Amazon Prime. We talked about it a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: little bit where it's original stories within the Cannon in
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the world of different video games.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, I remember now, well they have different
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: different kind of in some cases reimaginings of certain video
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: game characters.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so all the stories take place within those
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: video game worlds, but there are original stories. The first
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: couple were great. So there was a Dungeons and Dragons
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the Queen's Cradle, which is not a game I've heard of,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: but it was a lovely story. There was Seafu after that,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: which was delightful. There was Lost Worlds, which I wasn't
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: familiar with, and it was a great story, but it
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: suffered a little bit from The main character was voiced
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: by Arnold Schwarzenegger, and while I don't really have a
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: problem with the guy, he's not the best voice actor
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: got like, so the voice in the face didn't always
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: quite match up for me. And albeit I'm sure people
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: like you and I might be a little bit more
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: critical about stuff like that, Ben everyone. And then it
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: was a whole bunch of fighting games. Unreal Tournament was
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: actually brilliant. I've never played it, but it was a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: really good, like really good Robot Ai kind of as
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Mavian type story, but like crossfire, and there were a
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: cup and the war hammer, and there was one other
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: one that I'm like, these are just all fighty fighty
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: armored Corps armored cores. Was okay, pac Man darkest of
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: all the episodes so.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Far, well, I mean they're ghosts, has to be.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a very like, very reimagining of pac Man.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Uh spoiler? Do you want me to tell you, Jonathan.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna watch this. I'm gonna I am okay,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I am so intrigued by the dark pac Man.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: It is the darkest gooriout episode of the entire first season.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: They've already had a second season planned. I saw it
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: on IMDb, and shortly after that pac Man episode came out,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: they announced a new pac Man game. So if you
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: don't want a spoiler, don't look at that new pac
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Man game. Okay, but overall fun, The episodes are really short.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: They're between like seven and seventeen minutes each, maybe a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: couple dum dip into the twenties, but it's really kind
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: of a way for them to a proof of concept
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: stories within these universes for bigger projects. I'm fine with that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: It's a good way if we're like, ah, we've got
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: like twenty minutes until we have to go. You want
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: to watch something short because we don't want to start
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: anything else. It's great for that. I watched all of
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the rest of the time quangles on dropout, which are
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: where the Dimension twenty main cast on tour would roll
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a bingo cage and get a random character that they've played,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and they'd insert it into a random setting that they've
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: played in, and that would be the story. They get
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: better as they go.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Along, so you would end up having like characters who
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: never would interact with another under normal circumstances because they
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: exist in different worlds and different campaigns. Now they're being
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: kind of paired together by the players who have played
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: those in those various campaigns.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes even different slightly different because they adjust
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the rules systems for the different settings and games and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: things like that. So like Starstruck Odyssey had a very
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: different rule setting than let's say, Fantasy High, which was
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you know, Roll twenty. So it's a lot of fun.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: They were able to make all of the rules work
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: together seamlessly. The first episode. I could tell why it
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: was the first episode because it wasn't that great but
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the rest were a lot of fun. And then we
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: watched one of Tony's friends, longtime school friends we met
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: up with while we were a visiting family, and they
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: recommended Jury Duty to us, which is a show that
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: came out last year and it's pitched as a documentary
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: about jury duty, and everybody in it is an actor
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: except for one guy who doesn't know that the trial
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is not real and everybody is an actor.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's one of the jurors, right.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of the jurors. He's never done anything
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: in in entertainment, quite literally. I looked into it and like,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I really liked it because they did not make him
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the butt of the joke. All of the other characters
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: are the butt of the joke. And they also really
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: kept his This is like a tiny bit of a
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: spoiler because they go into the how they did it
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: in the final episode and then some bonus episodes they
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: release released. But they really put his mental health and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: well being as a priority while making the show, so
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: if they did something that seemed to really upset him,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: they had backup plans of like, well, this character did
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: this kind of crappy thing and it looks like it
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: actually really affected him, So now we'll do this to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: make it better to cheer him up, because they wanted
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to make sure that he wasn't the butt of the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: joke and that he wasn't.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Being traumatized for entertainment purposes.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Being traumatized for entertainment persons and purposes. And it turned
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: out he was a really nice guy. Yeah, Like some
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of it might have been because there were documentary cameras,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: but there's a lot that he did that he didn't
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: need to do that was just kind and upstanding and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: he was really smart and apparently a little bit ahead
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: of the writers a couple of times.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: They talked about in the final episode how he was
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: like a court was canceled today because of a COVID
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: scare and it was because they had to rewrite some
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: stuff because he got ahead of the ahead of the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: plot and they needed to rehearse it. Yeah.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I mean that's always That's always fascinated to me from
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a creative standpoint, Like on the other side of it,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: where whenever you're trying to make something that's a structure
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: for people to play within, where it's not, you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: not everyone is scripted, right like in this case, he's
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: not scripted. Everybody else might have some general rules they're
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: following or whatever, like an outline and kind of guide rails,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't, and so you can only plan for
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: so much. And it's kind of like if you are
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: a game master of a role playing game and you
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: know the people playing characters are invariably going to come
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: up with something you did not anticipate, and sometimes that
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: happens every single play session. Sometimes it only happens maybe
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: once or twice, but it always it can have a
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: significant impact to the game, at least if you're a
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: really good game master and you roll with it and
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you don't force them to not do it right, like, no,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: you can't do that. I'm not gonna let you because
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: it ruins my story.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: So there, it was definitely that, and there was definitely
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of improv However, a lot of it was scripted.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: There were a lot of like scripted moments of this
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: needs to happen, and because a lot of it was
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: happening between other characters, they could and then you know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: obviously the James Mars didn't place himself and he plays
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: kind of a heel. He plays like a Dwight character,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and he is the excuse for them to all have
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to get sequestered for this really dumb trial because normally
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: this kind of trial wouldn't get sequestered because.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: But because they have a celebrity on the jury, they
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: have to.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but well, because he's done some crap because he's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a celebrity and he doesn't want to serve on jury duty.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: He's really like the Michael Scott Dwight of the entire situation. Okay,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: but I would not like it's good they got someone
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: who wasn't an actor because watching it, I'm like, oh,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I know these actors. I know Kirk Fox and Ross
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Kimball and Lisa Gilroy and Aaron Barnhol Alan Barron Holds
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and like Susan Berger. A lot of these actors I've
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: seen in other things. Yeah, so, uh so it was
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it was really interesting because I'm like, how does he
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: not recognize more of these people? But I guess because
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: they're that guy that was in that thing as opposed
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: to big name celebrities. But it was really good. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: really liked it. I found it by the end, I
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: found some of it like, really, how how can he
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: not guess by this? But it's such a weird situation.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like why would you suspect it? I mean maybe
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: with the fact that James Marsden is part of it,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: that might give you some pause into thinking that maybe
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: this is somewhat artificial. But other than that, it would
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: be really hard.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But like but to the extreme that everybody was
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: an actor. Yeah, you figure if they go somewhere, you'd
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: be it would just be the people in that place,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: but no, they're all extras.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah, which how wild, Like, and it's also wild
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: that it turned out well, right, because there's no guarantee
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: that what you're going to end up with is going
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to be entertaining or usable. So that's like lightning in
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: a bottle right there.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It really was. And it's a short watch. The episodes
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: are like thirty minutes a pop, maybe a little under,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and it's a it's a short series. And I've had
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: people compare it to like Joe Ordinary or Joshimo or
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: whatever that reality show was. Yeah, but Joe Shmo, the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the person who's not in on the joke, starts off
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: as the butt of the joke and then they switch
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: it on later in switch yeah up later in.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I think I think figuring out like, hey, maybe we
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: don't make the one person who's not in on this
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: to feel like they're the constant victim or target of
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: humor is the right way to go, because like, how
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: unfair is that? I mean, it's just you'd be like
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: it would be like, oh, thank you, I'm glad I
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: got Truman showed.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he did get paid more than the
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: twenty five dollars a day you get for jury duty.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Well that's that's good to hear, because otherwise, if he
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: had been paid just as much as it paid for
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: jury duty, that wol First of all, it would have
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: been funny but also upsetting.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you want it to be a good experience.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: So obviously he was like, what the heck. But at
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the same time, they're like, look, we brought you in
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to do this, but what we didn't know was how
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: kind you were and how you treated these other peoples.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And they brought up examples and they're like, you're you're
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: kind of like an everyday hero, and we award you
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: as as a jury because you've been on trial too.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Essentially all of this money, so that's nice. It's not
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: like millions of dollars, but it's it's good, it's a
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: good amount of money.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that's awesome. I'll have to maybe I'll check it
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: out like this sort that sort of thing. Uh, it's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: really it could go one of two ways for me.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Either I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm vibing with this, or
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh, I'm feeling so much secondhand anxiety
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: for the person who is unknowingly in this situation. I'm
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: feeling so much empathy toward them, even though I know
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: it turns out well, and even though i know they're
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: not going to make him low bad, it's just that
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: that feeling. It's it's the same way I feel, honestly
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: at this point, Ariel, it's hard for me to go
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: see any live performances. It used to be like that
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: was a joy. I would have like if something went wrong,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: people would roll with it, it would be fine. But now
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I just want everything to go great for everybody so
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: they can feel really good about themselves. And the higher
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: risk the show, the harder it is for me to
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: sit through. So some more stuff like circ de solat
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: or a magic show or stand up comedy, I'm like
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: physically uncomfortable.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I've been there. I'm not fully there, but I definitely
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: can relate. I'd say, give Jerry duty. You try definitely
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: do what I first.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's good to know to do what a first.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I think after an hour, Yes, now we can move
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: on to talking very shortly about stuff for thirty seconds
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: or less. Yes, and I think I'm up first.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: You are all right?
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Here we go. One bit of news that broke while
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: we were on hiatus was that Jared Leto, having recovered
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: from killing a third tier Spider Man spinoff characters chances
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: of having any more cinematic outings, has now been signed
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to play Skeletor in the live action Masters of the
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Universe film. I'm curious to see if he turns himself
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: into a skeleton for this part. You know how method
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: actors are. Also, I will not be seeing this.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I want to see it for everybody else though. Okay.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Creature Commandos, which is the cartoon suicide squad of the
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: DC universe, has been renewed for a second season. It's
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: people who I know who watch it said they like
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: it pretty well. It's nice because James Gunn says that
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: working on Superman is big and it's stressful, but every
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: time he gets to work on Creature Commandos. It's like Christmas.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: He wrote the episodes and he gets to go in
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and work on them. It's nice that it brings him
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: so much joy.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I will point out, however, that Suicide Squad is also
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: the Suicide Squad of DC comics.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: All right, ah so fair.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: After years of hoping, Jason Momoa is getting his wish.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: As if being a towering hunk of man meat isn't enough,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: He'll also be playing the intercalactic bounty hunter Lobo in
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the upcoming film Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow. Mamoa has long
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: wanted to play this character, and apparently his previous stint
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: as Aquaman didn't disqualify him from consideration in James Gunn's
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: new DC Cinematic universe.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty greedy to take both big characters.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Take it up with Chris Evans, the Human Torch in
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Captain America.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah, Tom Holland Crazy Neighborhood Spider Man is also
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: apparently a actual neighborhood superhero of sorts, because while visiting
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the super Ma he broke up a fight. The people
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: were really angry at each other, and when he was like, hey,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: calm down. They were kind of like, dude, Spider Man's
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: telling us to calm down. We should do that, and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: it worked. He doesn't really go a lot of like
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: big public places because it does cause a scene. But
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna if you're gonna use here,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: with great power comes great responsibility.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you know what what a gent for actually
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: stepping in, Like he could have just he could have
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: just tried to ignore it and walk away, but no,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: he stepped forward, and that's just kind of cool.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Also, he's excited about Spider Man four, so that's.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Cool, as are we all. Well, once upon a time
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: there was a can't be horror film called Anaconda that
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: starred folks like j Lo ice Cube, John Boyd and
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Owen Wilson. And it's bad, but in an entertaining way. Well,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: we can't let franchises lie dormant for two longs. Now,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Anaconda is resurrected as a comedy with a reboot film
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: with Paul Rudd Jack Black attached to star in it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Tom gormickan who held the unbearable weight of massive talent,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: co wrote the script and has directed it. It's out
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: next Christmas. Twenty twenty five. By the way, Ariel told
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: me that we talked about this as a rumor back
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: in August, but to me, it's new all over again.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but now there's like a little teaser video, so
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: it's all it makes sense. Speaking of things getting resurrected,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the Mummy is getting resurrected again, this time by Lee Cronin,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: who directed Evil Dead Rides. He said it's gonna be
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: super scary and unlike any Mummy we've seen before. But
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I say, unless it's the classic or we get Brendan Frasier,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I'm probably not interested because he's making it already sound
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: too scary.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Do you think at the end of the movie he's
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: gonna say that's a rap?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I hope.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: So all right, it's the beginning of a new year,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: which brings the question what works have now entered the
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: public domain? So that's when copyright expires and anyone can
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: make use of things that were formerly copyrighted. So stuff
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: created in nineteen twenty nine is now in the public domain.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: That includes the classic Silly Symphony's cartoon The Skeleton Dance
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: out of Disney. That also includes William Faulkner's novel The
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Sound and the Fury and Ernest Hemingway's a Farewell to Arms,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: as well as the earliest versions of ten ten and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Popeye the Sailor Man. Thus we're getting that awful looking
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Popeye horror movie.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry you were talking, and the awful looking pop
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Eye movie is unfortunate. But the next story popped up
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: an image of Dwayne Johnson's head on a worm body
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: with tiny arms I'm guessing like a spice like the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Chosen Worm from June three. But it was very upsetting
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: and distracting, okay.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And also has nothing to do with the story you're about.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: The cover, No, absolutely not. My stories about Christopher Nolan
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: and that his next film is The Odyssey, which could
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: be really cool. He's going to do it using Imax
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: film technology. It's a very long story, so I expect
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: much like Oppenheimer, which was Christopher Nolan's last really big hit,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: this will also be very long. I would love if
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: he teamed up with the team that made Epic, which
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: is the musical about the Odyssey, because I would love
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to see that put up on its feet.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: There is another Odyssey related film that's either out already
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: or is coming out soon, and I cannot remember the
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: name of it, but I do remember. It's specifically about
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Odysseus's return home, and he comes back home to find
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: that all these these losers are trying to marry his
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: wife in order to get it on Odysseus's kingdom because
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Odsseus is presumed dead. I want to say that someone
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: like Ray finds is in it, i'd have to. And
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: it's called The Return There we go. So yeah, I
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: know that I had seen a preview for that and
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: thought it looked pretty like it looked more grounded. It's not.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: It's clearly not like a a mythical sort of take
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: on Odysseus. It's more of a grounded take. So he doesn't,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: you know, as far as I can tell, there were
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: no like Cyclops or.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Of course it's grounded because he's not on a boat anymore.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: He's at home.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was kind of the whole point
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: of the Odyssey, right, like good old Homer.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm curious, I hope, I said, Ray, it's Ralph?
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Is it are a? What's how's it spelled r A
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: L P H. It's it's pronounced Ray. Actually, technically it's
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: pronounced rafe so technically it's Rafe Finds. It's spelled its
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: spelled Ralph but pronounced Rafe, and yes, it makes no sense.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I didn't anything about it when you said it,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, yes, that's correct, And then I looked
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: at it and I guess there's just a disconnect between
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: every time I read it and every time I.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Hear it totally. Yeah. No, I mean like when when
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I first saw his name, I just assumed his name
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: was pronounced Ralph Fines, but then after you know, seeing
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: him speak in interviews and stuff, it's Ray Finds. And
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: again it's because it's because the British are wacky. They
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: like they complain about how we Americans say things, but
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: look at how you spell stuff and then how you
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: say it. Yeah English, I mean.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: But also like American actors too, because like Shia Labuff
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I always thought was shy La Buff or Shilah Buff.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: It never really comes across that shy to me.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: No, No, he's kind of problematic.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, we'll we'll we'll leave Shia laff there
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: behind it. Shi the Beef is gonna be in our
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: rear view mirror. One thing we wanted to mention or
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: at least I wanted to mention is that we're recording
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: this on J. R. R. Tolkien's birthday, So happy birthday,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: mister Tolkien. I am assuming you're still dead.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: That would be great.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Someone they were still dead agreed, there's a zombie Tolkien
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: walking around. We're all in trouble.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I said that. Look, I have
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: been here but not all there this week, got it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: One of our listeners shared a meme on our discord saying,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: if you could have any like if writers wrote fanfic
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: for each other's books, who would you want to write
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: which book? So like, you know Terry Pratchett writing game
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: and stuff or whatever, And I said, I would like
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: either J. R. R. Tolkien to write the Chronicles of
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Narnia series or vice versa. C. S.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Lewis to write I was thinking of the same thing
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: because they did know each other. Tolkien and Lewis knew
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: each other, but of course Lewis was far more like
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: his works are far more rooted in Christianity, and Tolkien's
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: works were more rooted in Old English and Germanic kind
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: of epic saga structures. So seeing how they would each
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: take the other's world would be interesting. I'm sure that
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: that that the C. S. Lewis version of a Tolkien
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: story would be much more Christian.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And then I think I said something like Dune written
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: by Lemony Snickett or Sandman written by Lemony snick or
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Just because I think for me it would be Dune
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: written by Douglas Adams. No, Douglas Adams, not, There's no,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: there was never presently Douglas Adams. You had John Adams
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: and John Quincy Adams, you had a statesman named Frederick Douglas.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Douglas Adams was the author of The Hitchhiker's Guide to
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: the Galaxy.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be really good.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, ariel Wow.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I also slept in my contacts and they're
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: hurting my eyes and I can't see.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're wearing glasses now, so I assume you
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: managed to get the contacts out. You're not like, you're
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: not like trying to go from twenty twenty vision to
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: forty forty. Yeah, that's a terrible hut.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Don't admit to it. And then I'm like, yeah, live
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: up to your your thievery. Ever, I don't know, I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well let's let's uh, let's get back on track,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: shall we talk about some of the stuff. So we
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: have a lineup and we actually divided it into two
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: parts because we had some stuff that's a little older,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: but we didn't get a chance to talk about it
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: because we were on hiatus during the holidays and we
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: still wanted to, you know, mention it. So one of
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: them was. It was not long after we did our
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: last episode we got the first teaser for the James
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Gunn Superman film and it's it's a fairly short teaser,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: but you do get to see a little bit of
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: like Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor, a very quick shot
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: of Nathan Phillian as Guy Gardner, that kind of stuff,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: as well as obviously we get Superman, Crypto, the super Dog,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: and some other stuff too. So what did you think
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: of the teaser?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I really liked it. I know a bunch of people
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: thought Crypto was a little goofy, but I didn't get
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: a goofy tone for the overall movie, and I'm it's
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: the best cgi Dog I've seen today, so.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: On for it. Yeah, I think I was one of
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: the people who told you that I thought that Crypto
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: looked kind of goofy as as the owner of a dog.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I felt that Crypto looked a little too cartoony for
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: my tastes.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: But also our mutual friend Jeremiah, who loves Superman, is
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: really upset by Nathan Fillian's bowl cut as Guy Gardner,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: which is cannon. Yeah, and I just think make Kim
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: firms that nobody will like him.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Well, Guy Gardner's a jerk, like he's a Yeah, the
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: character is a real jerk face. Is that word? The
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: other words I would use are not they would get
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: us that explicit tag.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: You know. I was worried that there was gonna Yeah,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I was worried that there's going to be too many
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: characters in it. But if anybody can handle a lot
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: of characters, it's James Gunn And he's proven, has a proven.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Track record, So yeah, Guards of the Galaxy Suicide Squad,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: he's got he's got the stuff down. Peacemaker. Yeah, so
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm curious to see more. I also really liked
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: the music that they have. They incorporate a little bit
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: of the John Williams theme into the New Superman theme,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: And you know, while you could argue that you know,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: leaning on something that's rooted in the late nineteen seventies
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: is kind of a crutch.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I like.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I like that there's that connective tissue for one thing.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: John Williams score for Superman and is still one of
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: my favorite film scores of all time. I love the
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: main theme for Superman, and I love the Oh. I
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: can't remember what Lex Luthor's Little March is called, but
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I love the remember but it's cute. I don't expect
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: to hear that that's too. It's far too cartoony to
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: make its way into a modern superhero film, but it
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: was nice to hear, so I was pleased that that
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: got incorporated me too.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I here's the thing. I know a lot of people
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: were burned by the Snyder Verse and the previous attempts
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: at a DC connected universe. I once James Gunn started
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: talking about his opinions of Superman and how and his
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: plans for Superman and how Superman was going to be
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: a beacon of hope and light in a cynical world,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: and how he took this project, the fact that it
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: has been so stressful for him because he's he's taking
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: taking it so seriously to make sure that he gives
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Superman the right treatment has made me hopeful from it
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: for it from the get go. Yeah, Like I'm not
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: gonna lie Like it's not that James Gunn like can
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: do no wrong in my eyes, because I certainly don't
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: like all his stuff, But but just that that the
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: responsibility he's he I feel he has taken with this
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: character has has made me feel like it will be
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: a good movie, and I really hope it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Holds up to that totally. Yeah, I feel the same way.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I think, Like you know, I was a little worried
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: because James Gunn I hadn't seen anything that I felt
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: was what I would call truly optimistic from James Gunn
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: And I feel like, ultimately a good Superman story, I mean,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: unless you're trying to just break the mold or whatever,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: but a good Superman story, in my mind, needs to
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: be optimistic. But but and it made me worry a
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: little bit about him being a little too quippy, you know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: a little too smart assy. But I don't get the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: sense that that's going to be the case at all.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: So I am very eager to see one what the
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Fish film is and two how it's received.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, also, Hawk girl, and that's awesome, even though yet
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: again another character I would love to play.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Next up, we have a trailer for a felm that
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: again came out while we were on hiatus, Death of
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: a Unicorn, which I thought was kind of a dark
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: comedy horror version of Harry and the Henderson's Yeah It.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I saw this trailer on YouTube and I clicked on
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: it solely because I was like, Paul Rudd and Jenna
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Ortega in a car together, let me see what this
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: is about. It is so weird.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought at first when I was clicking on
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: it that the title was just going to be, you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: allegorical or metaphorical or something, but no, it's literally about
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: this this I guess father daughter. Is that Paul Rudd
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: is Jenna Ortega's dad? I think so. Well. Anyway, they're
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: in a car together and they hit a creature and
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: discover that they they've hit a unicorn, and they're on
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: their way to this giant family estate and the family
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: feels like they could have stepped out of like knives
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: out right. Like it's one of those very rich, disconnected,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: spoiled brat type families that are like part of a
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: pharmaceutical company or have a pharmaceutical company under their name.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: And then they determined that the horn of the unicorn,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: this is just based on what I see in the trailer,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: has medicinal properties that are perhaps on the miraculous side.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: But then they find out that the unicorn's mate and
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: possibly the presumed deceased unicorn itself are out for revenge.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: So and they can like shape shift too, yeah, better
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: gain that revenge. And then it's got like this all
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: star cast, in my opinion, all star cast will Porter Poulter, Tayloni,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Anthony Kerrigan who I will watch in anything. He's also
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: in the New Superman and I'm super excited about it.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Richard D. Grant, Steve Steve Park, Jessica Hines, just like
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: this huge cast in this really goofy a. I guess
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: a twenty.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Four movie maybe. Yeah. I love Richard Y Grant, Like
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I think Richard Y. Grant is great. He's one of
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: those actors who everything I see him in he choose
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: the scenery like it's not by his business like it's
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: he gets away with stuff that no other actor could
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: because again it's like bigger than what you would typically
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: associate with cinematic acting, but somehow he manages to do it.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Like I think of Richard Y Grant as the more
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: unhinged like Dark Universe twin to Hugh Grant.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, which reminds me I need to watch the
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: franchise because he's in that.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So looking forward to Death of a Unicorn, I
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: wasn't sure that I would And were you okay with
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: this area because I know that the animal endangerment and
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: stuff is one of your big ix but this is
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: also a fictional critter.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I like, I don't know. I want to be okay
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: with it because I think it's going to be a
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: zany ride, but you know, people delighting in the death
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: of an animal. Look, I'm not a vegetarian, but I
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I also have a hard time if I step on
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: a bug and I don't kill it all the way
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: on the first try. So I'm a conflict inflicted person and.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know that's fair, that's fair? Maybe, maybe maybe
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: you'll have a better idea when we get closer to
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: when that movie comes out. Next up, we also got
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: while we were on hiatus at trailer for Karate Kid Legends,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: where we get like Ralph Macchio and I'm sorry Rafe
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Mantrio and Jackie Chan. That was a joke and Jackie
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Chan and a movie together.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Got there eventually.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, this this trailer looks good.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. It is a little weird to me that, like, so,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Jackie Chan was in the Last Karate Kid with Jaden Smith,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: which I also thought was just fine. But it's weird
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: for me for him knowing. I think, because my brain
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: stays met on this one, that Jackie Chan is is
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: such a an accomplished, at least film martial artist that
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: he is going to uh Daniel Russo for advice on
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: martial arts, but maybe he's going to him for advice
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: on handling kids. I think he looks good. I'm excited
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: to see this kid do a lot of like Jackie
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Chan type stunts, which they show a little bit of
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: in the trailer. It's the same kid who is in
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: American born Chinese I think is the name of the Yeah,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: American born Chinese. I thought he was really good in
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: that too.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the trailer looks good. I did think,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: at least, as I recall, I did not full disclosure,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I did not rewatch this just before we went to
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: record so I haven't seen it, but as I recall,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't pick up a lot of lighthearted or humorous
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: moments in the trailer. Doesn't mean that they're not going
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: to be in the movie, but to me, there has
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: to be at least some of that for it to
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: be a Karate Kid film, because the things that mark
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: a Karate Kid film for me is that you've got
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: a character who's kind of a fish out of water,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: who is bullied, who turns to martial arts, partly to
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: protect himself, partly to find himself or herself. There was
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: a karate kid with a young woman in it as well,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: so to find themselves and also make a connection with
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: their since their teacher, and that that's like the emotional
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: core of the film. But there also has to be
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: little moments of humor, and like there are plenty of
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: those in the in the first Karate Kid movie, for example.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are plenty of moments of humor in Cobra
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Kai as well, which I'm wondering if this there's probably
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: answer is probably out there, but I don't remember at
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: the moment. If this movie is coming directly as a
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: sequel to.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Cobra Kai, right, is Cobra Kai considered canon in the
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: world of Karate Kid Legends, or is it like will
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: it be like Agent? Will it be like Agents of Shield?
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: And never acknowledged.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: My guess is that it's going to be canon, although
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: where they have left Cobra Kai still waiting on the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: final episodes of the final season. But where they left
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: it who It's divisive.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: So we also got a trailer for the Electric State.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: We had talked about a teaser for it earlier, or
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: maybe it was the first trailer, but we got a
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: slightly longer trailer that gave us a bit more background
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: about this world where ultimately robots, which were starting to
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: demand rights and things normally granted to human beings, are
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: corralled into a region in the United States and walled
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: off and there and that's the Electric State, that's their domain,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: and that they are no longer allowed outside of that
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: humans are not supposed to go into it. And then
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: how that intersects with a young woman's quest to find
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: her long lost brother who may or may not still
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: be alive. This trailer, I thought the first trailer was
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: really visually stunning, interesting, kind of weird because some of
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the robot designs are a little odd to me. They
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: come across like almost like nineteen forties cartoon character design
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: odd to me, But this one got me a little
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: more interested in seeing the movie. What was your reaction?
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think focusing a little bit more on
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: the characters' motivations and backstory made it more intriguing. I
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: do wonder if the main character's long lost brother is
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: inside the robot that she teams up with. That's my
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: hot take from the trailer. Yeah, I will probably watch this.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks it looks like it makes me think
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: of like a Spielbergian kind of film, right, Yeah, it
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: kind of has that sort of the thing that could
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: be schmaltzy if it were handled poorly, But it doesn't.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: At least the trailers don't come across to me like
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: it was handled poorly. We won't really know until we
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: get to see the whole thing, but I'm encouraged by
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: the trailers, and it's nice to see something that's not
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: directly connected to tons of other franchises that are out there.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Although I do think this was an adaptation of a
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: graphic novel, so it's not like it's wholly original.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was an adaptation of a graphic novel,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: or if I did, I forgot, but it does look interesting. Yeah,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: and I.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Could be wrong about the adaptation part. At this point.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Who knows my brain is a crazy wonderland filled with
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: thorns and broken down carnival rides, so.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Sometimes like the Electric State.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: So who is to say? I think Ariel's looking it
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: up right now.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is based loosely based on the twenty eighteen
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: graphic novel of the same name. I just wasn't sure
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: if like the Russo brothers wrote it.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either. I just I seem to
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: remember that. So I'm glad. I'm glad the old gray
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: matter rattling round up in my nog and still gets
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: things right on occasion.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Look, that's the more you work it.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: So next up, we've got The Doctor Who twenty twenty
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: five season trailer. And I watched this despite the fact
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: that I don't follow Doctor Who, and I have to
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: say that I still have no idea what the heck
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: is going on in this trailer. Like, I watched it,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: but I'm like, I don't know who any of these
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: people are. I don't know which ones are companions versus
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: just people he's interacting with. I will say there was
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: one shot of an enormous cartoon character climbing out of
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: a movie screen, and I thought that was really compelling.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: But that's the only thing I can that's the only
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: takeaway I have.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Do you know who the doctor is?
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Yes? I know who the doctor is?
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the sure right, Yeah, she'd got one. The
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: girl with the blonde bob with the older woman with
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the blonde bob was his former companion m and then
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the new companion was the one who's like, Doctor, You've
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: got to get me home. Although I also watched The
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Doctor Who Christmas Special yesterday, not during Christmas, but yesterday,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: and he had a temporary companion in that one kind
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: of not Nikola Coughlin, who also would have been a
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: great companion, but a different person than the doctor spent
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of time with that I would have adored
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: to be his new companion.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: They had such a great on screen friendly chemistry that
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: I loved it. I also don't know what's gonna what's
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: going on on this. I maybe recognized one of the
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: villains they showed, but they didn't show much.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: That's true, it's a it's a fairly short teaser. But yeah,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: but because I haven't, like I left off of the
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Doctor back when I was in the Matt Smith series,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: so I'm so far behind. I'm like a couple of
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: doctors plus a war doctor behind. Yeah.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I know, I owe you a list of what Doctor
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Who episodes to watch and also which Supernatural episodes to watch,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: But it's so like it's so some are like definitively good,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: like The Doctor's Wife is definitively good, which I think
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: is the one with the tartist that Neil game In directed,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: but I don't remember.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll definitely look out for that, because, like I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: there have been episodes here and there of Doctor Who
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: that I liked, but on the whole, I found it
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: a series that, while I appreciated what it was doing,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't connect with it so much. Yeah, and which
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: again is not a comment on the quality of the work.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: It's just that me and my stage of life or whatever,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: I just wasn't finding a hook there for me.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: But some of the quality of the work is if he's.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, especially in those earlier seasons like oh and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: if you go to the original like earlier seasons, then absolutely.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: That quality is ridiculous. Like even the quality of the sound,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: like it's just such that tiny, canny sound from where
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: they're clearly just using like boom mics in the studio
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: and you're not getting very good sound at all. Those
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: are hard to watch, but yeah, I just I don't know.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: It's one of those things. It's just one of those
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: properties I never really got into, but I can't appreciate
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: the work that goes into them. And this trailer, like
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: it's really well put together, even though it doesn't necessarily
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: show its hand too much, it just shows that the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: show itself is fairly slick.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it's maybe accited. I need
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: to know who that giant cartoon character is. Yeah. Last
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: of the things that we missed due to the holidays
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: is the second trailer for the second season of The
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Last of Us.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is going to be I think it's essentially
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: the Last of Us two, but it's split. That story
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: is going to be split into two seasons, so part one, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: this is yeah, this is the Last of Us season two,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: which is Last of Us two, Part one, carry the three,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's it's a it'll be the first half
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: of the second game of Last of Us, and based
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: upon the trailer, I think I know what the cliffhanger
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: for this season is going to be. And I don't
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't played the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: game or hasn't read how the second game plays out
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I'm just prepare yourselves for being upset.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I will say this, Like the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: first trailer for season two looked tense. Yes, second trailer
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: makes it look way scarier.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, There's some shots like there's one shot of
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell if it was Ellie, it was
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: someone hiding behind a tree while a bunch of people
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: were looking for them that looked really tense. There was
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: like shots of just armies of infected rushing toward like
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: a a walled city, stuff like that. Yeah, it looks
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: it looks like they've really upped the ante for season two,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure that they you know, they earned that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: with the accolades and the success that season one brought.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Like season one was really good TV. I mean, including
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: an episode that I still think is probably one of
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: the best episodes of any television I've ever seen. So yeah,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: and yeah, and I know Ariel you really liked it too,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: with the exception of the What's Eating You episode where
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: you had to kind of dip out for bits.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Of that, Yeah, for sure. But the episode that you
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: said might be one of the best episodes of TV,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: it was so good. Yeah, I was sad for like
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: a week, but it was so good.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I've I've rewatched it. Every time you watch it, it
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: rex me, like, I know what's going to happen. It's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: still rex me.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: I try. I tried to watch it disconnected because I knew,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: but it didn't work.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's tribute to the showrunners as well as
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: the actors, like everything came together in that storytelling to
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: make it really impactful. I mean, and it's you know,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: we're dancing around it just in case people haven't seen it,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: because it's worth watching. But it's one of those things
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: where you kind of marvel at the fact that the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: creators were able to introduce characters in an episode and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: have you care so much about them and they're only
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: in that one episode, Like it's not like these are
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: characters that you've been following the whole time. You're meeting
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: them for the first time and you care about them
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: and that's hard to do.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I hope more people figure out how to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: do it, because that's quality entertainment there.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fantastic storytelling. So I'm sure Season two will
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: also be an emotional gut punch, and you know, I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: look forward to I'm going to try to do I'm
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: going to try and watch it, but this might be
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: one that I I don't know if I'll be able
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: to stick with it. Like I appreciate what Last of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Us Too was doing from a story perspective, I understand
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: what the whole point was, but I don't know. If
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: I can watch.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: It, we'll see I know a lot of the big
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: spoilers and Last of Us Too, but I don't know
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: what the whole point was because I haven't played it.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not going to spoil it. So let's
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: move on. Let's move on and talk about some new
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: stuff that is fresh from this week, because everything we
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: talked about so far was stuff that kind of came
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: out over the previous weeks. First up, we got a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: brand new trailer for your friendly neighborhood Spider Man, which
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I originally had a typo in our lineup, and it
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: was your friendly neighborhood cider man, and I could go
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, If I had a neighborhood man who brought
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: me like hot cider, I would be I would before that.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me too. As long as as a lot
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: of the neighborhoods sider Man didn't look like the you know,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: the hag from Snow White, I'd probably just take it
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: for granted that he's trustworthy and I should just drink
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: that stuff down once is cool enough, you don't want
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: to burn your mouth.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: We've both talked about how much we like applesider.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: We love applesider. Yes, it's my favorite fall drink.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Actually, yes, this trailer looks delightful.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks great. It's interesting because it it's a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: reimagining of Peter Parker's early years as Spider Man, when
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: and in this version, he's got an association with He's
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: essentially got Norman Osborne as his mentor instead of Tony Stark.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: So and Norman Osbourne is the guy turns into the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Green Goblin eventually. So it's an interesting twist on Spider Man,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: where what if Spider Man's mentor was someone who didn't
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: necessarily have his best interests at heart. What I was
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: going to say was that another interesting little thing about
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: it is that at one point, the intent was for
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: this series to be essentially part of the MCU, that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: it was going to dovetail and be like the Tom
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Holland version of Spider Man, but before we see him
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: in the first Spider Man film, or indeed before we
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: see Tony Stark visit him. But they decided that that
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: was too restrictive, that it would mean having to make
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: too many concessions for it to fit within the MCU,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: which I totally understand because Agents of Shield is another
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: great example of that, right. Agents of Shield is not
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: really cannon in the MCU because it contradicts certain things
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: that the MCU considers cannon. So it gives you a
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: lot more freedom in your storytelling. So that's a good thing,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I think, And I think it's a lot easier to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: get away with too, because it's an animated series.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: The most recent Spider Man that I watched, where Happy
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: was kind of like his handler but he was in
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: high school, was delightful, and I look forward to this
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: one too. I'm glad that it's not canon because, yeah,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: although with the multiverse who's to say what canon is
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: it and is it.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: That's a great point. Yeah, you could just argue this
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: is a multiverse variant of Spider Man and that would
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: be enough, right. Yeah, I mean we've already got that too,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: like we've had variant Spider Man's. So we also got
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: a trailer for a interesting science fiction slash what is
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: it to be Sentient? Can can artificial beings be? Like?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Can they discover humanity? As in the quality of humanity?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: In a movie called Love Me?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw this and was going to share it
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: with you and then noticed you had put it onto
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: the lineup, so beat me to it. It It feels
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: like Wally but for adults.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: It reminded me a little bit of Her, which is
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: the film where a man falls in love with his
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: operating system, which is voiced by wants their Face who
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: played Scarlett Johansson Johnson. Yeah. So, but this is this
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: is a movie where you have like a an artificially
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: intelligent booie and an artificially intelligent satellite that end up
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: connecting with one another and then they kind of create.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: First first it was like they create digital human forms
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: so that they can interact together in like a virtual
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: world and then somehow, whether it actually happens or this
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: is just the film depicting what happens in a different way.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: They take atual human forms and they're trying to kind
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: of discover things like love and you know, these deep,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: deep concepts and explore what that really means. And I
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: think science fiction is really good for that kind of thing.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm curious about this. I don't know if I
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: think it works or not yet.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. So all of humanity has died off, yes,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: so they're just they're basing everything off of like videos
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: and historical data, and so it already feels like sad
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, because these are like the two last
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: ais as far as we know anywhere, and there's no
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: one to help them fix them, Like a booy can't
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: fix itself.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't mean to burst your bubble, Aeriel, but
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: if you go in to a relationship thinking you can
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: fix somebody, then maybe you're getting into it for.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: The wrong reason itself.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: I know I'm saying that. If you're hoping that the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: satellite's gonna fix the booy, like, that's just that's a
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: toxic relationship.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: No. What I'm saying, is the Mooe's going to break
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: down and not be able to replace the panels that
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: are laying in water that are going to eventually rust.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like to die.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: That's a great analogy for me, honestly, Like I'm going
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: to break down and ain't nobody going to fix my
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: rusty panels? Yeah, I understand what you're saying from a
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: practical point of view. I think also like it's it's
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: interesting in that it's kind of exploring the concept of
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: what could humanity's legacy be that even after humanity itself
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: has passed, like maybe our time is over, Like you
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: got to keep in your mind, we've only been on
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Earth for a very short amount of time in the
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, like a blink of an eye,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: like you know, especially if you think of humans as
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: people who are able to record history in a meaningful way,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: that's a very short amount of time. And it feels
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: like it's forever because our live spans are pretty short
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: and so many generations have come before us, but we
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: are not eternal. So asking like, well, what do we
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: leave behind that could potentially go outlive us? I think
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: that's an interesting question. I mean It's one that just
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: as individuals, we often ask ourselves, like, what sort of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: legacy am I leaving behind? Am I even creating a legacy?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Is that important to me? If it is, how can
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I make sure it's the best one I can do?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: And I mean those are big questions.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Those are big and important questions. And this movie is
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: going to give me extistential dread.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ex extra existential dread.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I do like that they have a long distance relationship,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: so one of them is a satellite, and I love
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: that it's a relationship. So the other is a boo.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Nice Yeah, you're my boo.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: We we you're my boo.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: We also got a new trailer. This is like we've
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: seen so many of these. I almost didn't put this
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: on our list just because we have talked about Captain
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: America Brave New World a few times. Because we've gotten
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: a few trailers. This one seems to focus a little
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: bit more on Thunderbolt Ross Slash Red Hulk, and uh, honestly,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: it's the least interesting part of Captain America for me, Like,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: I'm interested in all the other stuff more than the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Red Hulk part.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Samesia's Yeah, this trailer didn't grab me other than to
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: remind me that the movie comes out in February.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Valentine's Day.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, happy Valentine's Day. Watch a war movie.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Now, you go to Valentine's Day and you see a
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: big Red Hulk and then you just hold up a
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: cutout of a heart and hold it up against the Hulk,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: and there you got your Valentine.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: And then his heart grows ten sizes.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: That day you Hulk smashed my heart.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like it, but Green Hulk not Red Hulk.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I have hopes that it'll be really
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping it's going to be similar to Captain America
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: Winter Soldier, which is what a lot of people have
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: been comparing it to in press junkets and stuff. I
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: still think that's one of the best Marvel films that's
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: been made. It may, you know, very well, be my favorite.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Like I really have to think about to figure out
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: what my favorite Marvel film is, but it's way up there.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: So if it does, in fact kind of match the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: tone and energy of that film, then I'll probably really
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: like it. But if it does end up being more
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: or about Red Hulk than anything else, then I'm I'm
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: not as excited, partly because it's the issue I have
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: with all the Marvel films where the third act turns
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: into a giant video game battle extravaganza. If you have
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: characters like Hulk involved that it it definitely feels more
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: like a video game because you're hyper aware that what
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: you're seeing is computer generated. Like even if they made
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: it look really good, like with great skin textures and
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: shadows and lighting and all that stuff, it's still clearly
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: computer generated and it doesn't feel like there's a real
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: thing there. I also worry about the Thing and Fantastic
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Four being like that.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: But we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. I uh oh,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: so many things I want to tell you, but I
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: can't until you watch What If? Okay, Anyhow, Natasha Leone
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: is playing a surprise character in Fantastic Four.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we talked about there. Yeah yeah, Ben, do
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: you know who it is? Now? Is that something that
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: was revealed and What If?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think I do, because it would be really
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: weird for her to. She does voice a character in
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: What If? Yeah, and it would be really weird for
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: that character.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Is that the original character that was added for What If?
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I remember hearing that there was an
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: original character added for what if there was.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: An original charactered character added last season? Who is the
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: indigenous superhero? This is another one that's added for just
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: the last two episodes kind of, and it's fun. It's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: a fun character. It's really interesting. I don't know if
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: you're going to love or hate them, but it would
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: be really weird for that character show up and fantastic
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: for yeah.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like inventing new characters to insert into the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Marvel universe. I mean, arguably, you could say Disney has
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: a motivation to try and do that more because it
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: would allow them to incorporate those characters directly into their parks,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: whereas when it comes to existing Marvel comic book characters,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: they don't have access to some of those because the
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Universal has a pre existing agreement at least, yeah, at
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: least in the East Coast. Yeah. So anyway, that's that's
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: getting so inside Baseball, let's move on. Yeah, and instead
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: of talking about inside Baseball, let's talk about inside Wrastler.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say inside the Ring. Yeah, there was
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: a movie. There's a movie coming out called Queen of
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: the Ring. Yeah, is it kind of focuses on the story.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Of Mildred Burke.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Mildred Burke, is she the first like famous female wrestler.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll put to you this way. I am a
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: fan of wrestling. I'm even a fan of wrestling history.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: But I was unfamiliar with Mildred Burke because most of
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: my history knowledge only goes back as far as as
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: really the nineteen seventies and a little bit into the sixties.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: So the folks who were active in the early early
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: days of professional wrestling in like the twenties, thirties, forties,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know much about them at all. So I
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: had not heard of Mildred Burke before you sent me
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: this trailer.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyhow early like nineteen thirties female wrestler, female who
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: wants to become a wrestler. It looks fun and good.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: It kind of talked about how wrestling was popular in
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: like the carnival circuit. It looks uplifting.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I liked the tone. I liked the message it
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: seemed to be giving, and I liked the fact that
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: it was exploring the carnival roots of professional wrestling. Like
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: pro wrestling has its own vocabulary and much of that
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: vocabulary is rooted in carne, Like the old Carnie speaks stuff,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: so things like a mark or you know, doing the job.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: That kind of stuff kind of dates all the way
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: back to the carnival days and still is used today
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: and for those who don't know, like pro wrestling kind
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: of got started as grapplers who would do a thing
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: where they would take on all comers at like carnivals,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: and they would actually wrestle locals. But if a local
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: look like they could potentially beat the wrestler, which would
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: be bad business for the carnival, then frequently what would
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: happen is you would have a little discussion with this
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: local and pay them off so that they would lose
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: to the wrestler. And that eventually developed into well, let's
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: stop bringing third parties in who we have no control
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: over and instead match like minded rest against each other
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: where we've pre arranged who's going to win and who's
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: going to lose, and make it safer for everybody. And
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: this seems to explore that evolution in the film.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so a very far cry from Glow.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: But honestly, it makes me think of the film The Wrestler, Like, yeah,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: that's a great movie. It's very sad, so I don't
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: recommend it for people who are in a rough headspace,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: but it's a fantastic film.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: It featured the main character, Mildred Burke, is played by
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Emily Bette Rickards, who was Felicity in like Arrow and
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: the Flash and all of that, And I will say
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: I did not recognize her at all at all, Like
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: I had to, I had to look up who she
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: was in Arrow and the Flash, despite the fact that
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: she was one of my favorite characters in those series,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: because she looks so different with her care you know,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: being a bit older. Now. The other thing I really
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: liked about this movie is like it didn't feel too
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: much like it was for the male gaze.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it doesn't feel like it's that kind of
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: exploitative approach, which is Listen, I could talk for hours
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: about pro wrestling and the role of women in pro wrestling,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: and like how in really the eighties, but really the
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: nineties and into the early two thousand's, the role that
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: women played was largely eye candy, and like it was
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: kind of it was disgusting, honestly, Like there was a
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: time at least in professional wrestling here in the United States,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: where if you were a woman in the wrestling business,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: chances are you were playing either a valet or a manager.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: You weren't wrestling, and you were wearing as little clothing
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: as possible, And if you were in a wrestling match,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: it would be so demeaning, like a broad and panties match,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: where your you know, your goal is to rip the
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: costume off your opponent so that they're stripped down to
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: their underwear. Like those were the kind of things that
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: were going on in the eighties and nineties. I'm happy
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: to say that these days that's not really what you
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: see anymore. Now you see women competing and sometimes, like legit,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: they end up holding the top spot on the card
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: because the matches they put together are just as good,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: if not better, than the stuff the men are doing.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's women like Mildred who even made
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: that a possibility.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had a friend's parent tell me once
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: that if acting didn't work out, I should become a wrestler.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: I don't. I like stage combat. I don't fully disagree,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: you know, despite the fact that my back is out now.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: This movie also has quite a geeky cast in it.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: It's got Walton Goggins in it. Yep, you see in
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: the trailers, and wall in it.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah, she was in Daredevil.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: And she's also a D and D professional dungeon master.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't see her in the trailer, but I
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: could have just overlooked her. It's also got Martin cove
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Martin Kovee in it, who was Crease in Karate Kid. Okay,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: so and and I guess also Cobra Kai and a
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: bunch of other great actors. But those are the geekiest
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: ones that are standing out to me. I am really
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: looking forward to this movie. This This feels more slice
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: of life than a lot of movies that do super well.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: But I hope it does super well.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to see this one too. I I
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: gotta say, I'm more interested in this than I was
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: in The Claw, the Iron Claw movie where it was
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: about the von Erics, because I already know I know
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: about the von Eric family, I know how tragic that
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: story is, and I wasn't ready to watch a family disintegrate,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: you know, member my by member in the most tragic way.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: So I'm glad to see something that looks to me
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: to have a more positive kind of take. Also, the
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: wrestling business, let's be honest, is a rough one. Like
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: even if you're doing well in it, you're probably going
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: to be dealing with a lot of long term pain
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: and injury issues, I mean, if you're really active in
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: it at any rate. So wrestling is one of those
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: things that's a complicated thing for me to be a
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: fan of because on the one hand, I'm a huge
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: like I admire the athleticism and the skill needed to
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: put on a good match, both from a physical level
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: and just like a psychological approach where how do you
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: play to the crowd so that the crowd excitement builds
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: and then kind of pull it back and build it
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: again like that that's an art form. But on the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: flip side, like knowing how many people suffer really bad
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: injuries and then often that leads to things like reliance
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: on pain medication, that sort of stuff that makes it
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: really complicated too, because obviously you want people to have healthy,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: long productive lives, and for a lot of wrestlers that's
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: just not a possibility. But this looks like a positive
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: film in that genre for sure for sure.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: And last I guess this is a slightly sad.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Note to end on, well, I mean it's a discussion.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: Note is really what it is. I mean, I found
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: a story in Variety about the US box office take
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four and how it declined slightly from
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and it's the first time since post
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: pandemic that the numbers actually went down. They had been
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: going up year over year. They still weren't as high
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: as pre pandemic numbers, nowhere close, but they were building.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four we actually saw a dip. But the
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: article also offers a hypothesis as to why that may
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: have happened. In part, it is that we had the
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: strikes last year and that that impacted films being finished
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: and released, so there were some dead spots in the year.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: The other thing I found interesting was that there was
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: the revelation this I do find sad, but the revelation
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: that out of the top ten grossing films in the
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: United States, nine of them were sequels.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very sad to me. Also, though a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: lot of the top grossing films were family films, Yeah,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: which is super interesting.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: That is interesting. Yeah, it does show that, like families
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: are more often going to the movie theater than potentially
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: other types of film fans. Right, Like you know, in
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: the old days, it may be that an R rated
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: movie was the one that was getting the most traction.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: That's not necessarily the case or PG thirteen often because
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: movie studios would be scared if they made it all,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: then their target audience wouldn't even be allowed into the theater.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, it was interesting to see that.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Sadly, I think we're going to hit something similar in
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I hope not. So every year since
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: the pandemic, it's been next year will be good. We've
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: gotten past this thing, and next year will be good.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: And it was a pandemic, and then it was the
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: writer strike and then the actor strike, and then the
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: voice actor strike and also several crew strike yeah yazi, yeah, yazi.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: And so there's been that mixed with the struggle that
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: streaming has been having because at first, all of these
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: streaming networks are putting all these all of this money
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: into shows because they were like the new golden thing,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: and that's great, but a lot of streaming networks have
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: been losing money because it's too expensive to have every
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: streaming channel, and so the market gets saturated pretty quickly. Yeah, so, uh,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: things have also been down because of that, because there
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: have been less streaming network shows being made partially because
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: of the strike. Now that the strikes are over, it's
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: still been a little quiet. The guess is that, you know,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: it's just people don't want to start things up before
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: the holidays just to shut them down for the holidays.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: So I think everybody in the industry is really hoping
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: that it'll pick up now that we're in the new
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: year and people kind of know what they're in for,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: but uh, that is yet to be seen. Yeah, we
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: have we have a we have a mutual acquaintance who
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: likes to posit on there. He's he's in he's in
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: the film industry, and he likes to posit on on
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: on like he likes to make predictions for the year.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: And he thinks that horror movies are going to be
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: very popular because they are less expensive to make, because
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: you can make a really good horror movie on the
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: lower budget. Though I would I would wager to say
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: you can also make a really good sci fi fantasy
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: movie with the right crew on a low budget. Look
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: at District Nine, look at Godzilla Minus one, those were
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: both made with fairly small budgets.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as your budget is going to the
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: right stuff in your movie.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. So hopefully this actually opens up room
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: for a lot more indie movies to take the stage,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: because big budget movies are fun, but you don't necessarily
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: need a big budget movie to make a good movie.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: If you look at like, I guess, like Goodwill Hunting
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: or Dead Poet Society. I don't think those were super
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: high budget movies per se. I don't know, but I
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: would assume that Slice of life movies cost a lot
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: less to make.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I know that. I know the Goodwill Hunting
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: didn't cost a huge amount to make because Ben Affleck
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: and Matt Damon didn't have enough money to like, you know,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, we were having to squeeze every
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: penny to get this thing made.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: But it's considered a really great movie to this day.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: So it'll be it'll be interesting to see how stuff changes,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: how the market changes. You'll probably see a lot more
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: family movies are Our friend who's making these predictions thinks
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: it's because theme parks have gotten too expensive for families
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: to go to, but a movie is not so that's
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: like your family outing. I don't know if that's true. Yeah,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: I mean it's an interesting thought.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: I know. Historically horror movies tend to do well because
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: they're one of those movies that people still like to
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: see in groups. And they also, like you say, horror movies,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: they tend to have lower budgets, like every now and
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: then you get a big budget version of a horror movie.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: But the appeal for studios for horror movies is that
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: it tends to be a smaller investment for potentially larger
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: payoff that even if it even if it doesn't do
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: incredibly well, if it didn't cost that much, then you're
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: probably at least going to break even if not make
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: a small profit. So I agree that horror movies are
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: going to be like a go to genre for a
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: lot of the industry. And also it's one of those
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: movies that still convinces people to go to the theater,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: like there's lots of other movies that just can't, like
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: you know, you'll release them, but people just don't go.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: Now saying that, you look at the list of the
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: ones from twenty twenty four, like you said, the family movies,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: they did great. You know, like Inside Out Too did fantastic.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect it to. I know it was predicted to,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: but I didn't expect it.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird, right. I think it showed that
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: there was a need for family oriented entertainment and it
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: filled that need because, like you, I saw the previews
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: for it, and I thought, well, it doesn't look bad,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't strike me as a film, a Pixar
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: film that I absolutely have to see. In fact, I
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: still have not yet seen it.
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  Speaker 1: So I wonder if part of the trend toward these big,
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  Speaker 1: flashy movies is that people that people's attention spans have
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  Speaker 1: gotten shorter, and therefore, if it's not big and flashy
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  Speaker 1: and ooh look at this, ooh look at that, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to it's going to lose half of its audience's interest.
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  Speaker 2: It's possible. But I mean, there are some movies that
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  Speaker 2: have done pretty well over the last I mean, let's
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  Speaker 2: call it a decade, you know, the last decade or so,
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  Speaker 2: that have kind of embraced the slower pacing that you
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: would have find in like movies from the seventies and
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  Speaker 2: early eighties. Some of those movies have done quite well,
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  Speaker 2: like not all of them, and some of them have
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  Speaker 2: done quite well from a critical perspective, but not necessarily
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: box office perspective. But I think there's still a place
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  Speaker 2: for it. I'm trying not to paint with too broad
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  Speaker 2: a brush of saying today's audiences just don't have the
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  Speaker 2: attention span to sit through like a slow moving or
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  Speaker 2: deliberately paced film.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think they can. They sat through Wicked.
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  Speaker 1: That movie is long.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out like if you throw in some
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  Speaker 2: songs and dance numbers, then people might stick around.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's the answer. Make everything a musical.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty weird when Nosferatu started dancing.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta admit it was a weird moment.
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  Speaker 1: So interesting. Have you listened to any I know we're
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: getting along. Have you listened to any of the interviews
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  Speaker 1: with Bill Skarsgard on developing his character.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. I did learn what happened to his prosthetic
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: thing of a jig. Oh, he has a prosthetic thing
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  Speaker 2: of a jig because there's a full front viewing of
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  Speaker 2: count Orlock and he gifted it to Nicholas Holt, who
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: has it hang in a frame in his house.
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  Speaker 1: That seems accurate. I like, I thank goodness because I
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  Speaker 1: do know that that scene he was surrounded by a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of creepy crawleys and I would prefer to be
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  Speaker 1: covered in prosta for that, but uh no to get
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  Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a very deep voice, so to
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: get like the deep Warlock voice. He worked with an
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  Speaker 1: Italian singer. Oh wow, yeah, I wonder.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if he actually did damage to his vocal
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: cords that way. Sometimes that can happen. He also he
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: rolls his r's like every R is rolled that Orlock speaks,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: and like there are moments depending on what words he's
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: saying that. I'm like, it's starting to sound like he's
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: part of a motorcycle club because you're getting so many
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: other ers like, but it's a rolled art. I can't
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: roll my rs, so I'm not going to do it.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: But he would do these these very intense rolled rs.
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  Speaker 2: He was great. I thought he was great in the film.
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  Speaker 2: I thought everyone did pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: He worked really, really hard. I know that looking so
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: different from himself was a struggle to like get into
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: the character and making sure that he could act through
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: the prosthetics. I know he had a very intensive like
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: warm up process to make sure that he wasn't tight
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: so he could talk like that. So I think he
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: took it very seriously. Yeah, listening to him for his
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: process for this movie, Like when you talk about all
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: the creepy stuff, he's even too, I'm like, oh, that's creepy.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: But when he talks about like how he did the
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: craft of becoming this character, it is so interesting and
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: it's it's so respectable.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to check that out because like, that does
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: sound fascinating to me, and it sounds like the kind
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: of work I can I can get behind, as opposed
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: to your typical stories about like method actors. We've talked
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: about this before. Yeah, you know about how method actors
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: typically are looking for an excuse to be an abusive
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: jerk because it's method acting, and so they get to
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: be an abusive jerk to everybody who's working on the project.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: And you don't often hear about method actors like embracing
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: a nice character and just being super nice to everybody.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: It only seems to go the other way. So it's
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: great to hear stories of this is how I'm approaching
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: the actual technical aspect of taking on this character, so
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: that I can deliver what the director expects. Yeah, I
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: like that a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's super interesting. I'll try to find some of the
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: videos outside of the Tiki talks. I'm sure they are
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: like on Instagram and YouTube and that as well.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, there's always these press tours. I'll also say
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Willem Dafoe's great great in Nosparatu. Loved Willem Dafoe's performance. Also,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: it's just a kick to say Willem Dafoe playing I mean,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: he's very much in some ways like Anthony Hopkins in
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Bram Stoker's Dracula, and they're both playing the van Helsing character.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: It's got a different name in Nosparato, but it's the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: same thing. It's the Van Helsing guy. And I just
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: think it's hilarious because Willem Dafoe in Shadow of the
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: Vampire played the part of Max Shrek, the actor who
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: played Nosparatu in the silent film nineteen thirties version. And
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: I was just like, how delicious that you know, years
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: later he's back, but not playing the vampire, He's playing
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: the vampire hunter.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I also know one other tidbit that I will
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: tell you off off Mike that you probably already know,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: but it's maybe a spoiler and also a little gross.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, but that's all we have.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: If you've stuck through all of are crazy of this
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: long first episode of the year. Thank you, We appreciate you, Jonathan.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: If they want to reach out to us or me
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: or you or whatever, If they want to reach out
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: to us, how do they do that?
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: All? Right? So you're going to have to go on
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: a road trip with Paul Rudd, which I know is
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: already going to make things a little tricky for you.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: You're going to be driving with Paul Rudd through the
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: highlands of Scotland, and sure enough, don't you know it,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: just as you're getting deep into conversation you're not really
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: paying attention, you realize that you've just run over the
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Locknest Monster and you're going to get out of your
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: car and you're going to go back and look and
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: see that the Locknest Monster appears to be dead in
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: the street. So, thinking you can't just leave it there,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: you both you and Paul Rudd have to drag the
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: corpse of the Locknest Monster on top of your tiny
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: little car and strap it down with whatever twine or
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: rope you happen to have in there and then try
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: and drive your way to the closest town, and about
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: a mile and a half down the road, you're going
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: to realize the lock Best Monster wasn't dead at all.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: It was just dazed and now it's just flopping around
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: on the top of your car. So you're going to
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: have to deal with that. That's going to be the
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: rest of your day, Let's be honest, it's really going
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: to take up the rest of your day. You're going
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: to take care of that and get an Essie back
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: into the water. Everyone thinks it's okay and everything. The
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: trouble is that the next morning you're going to have
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: to spend that on the phone with the car rental
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: agency and they're just not going to accept the fact
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: that a Locknest Monster collision is actually covered. Then the
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: basic insurance plan that you opted into when you first
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: rented the car earlier that week going to be the
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: next half of your day. When you're done with that,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: you're gonna go to eat at the closest place you
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: can find, which is kind of be a Nandos, And
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: while you're there, you're gonna notice that I'm actually already
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: ahead of you in line getting the extra spicy butterfly
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: chicken breast and the macho ps. And that's when you
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: can ask me your question.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: And if you can't do spicy food like me, or
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: your car is way too small for anessy, it would
• 1:39:25
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• 1:39:28
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• 1:39:31
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• 1:39:34
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• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: for starting the new year with us in all of
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: its geekiness. And yeah, that's it until next time. I
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: am Ariel here, but not all their casting.
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  Speaker 2: And I am Jonathan. If you have prosthetics that you
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: want to send me so I can hang them on
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• 1:40:14
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