Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Jeezy Talks 20 Year 'Thug Motivation 101' Anniversary Tour, Jay-Z, Nia Long, Soul Survivor + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Morning. Everybody is the j n V.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Just hilarious.
- 0:08Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
- 0:10Speaker 3: a special guest in.
- 0:11Speaker 2: The building, one of the best to ever do it.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Celebrate in the twentieth anniversary of the Motivation One on
- 0:17Speaker 3: one Ladies and gentlemen, j.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Z what I'm doing, What I'm doing, what's happening? Good morning?
- 0:22Speaker 1: Good morning. How you feeling, brother man, great man, better
- 0:25Speaker 1: than most, you know what I mean? Great?
- 0:27Speaker 3: I would need I would say I was talking to
- 0:29Speaker 3: somebody yesterday this is the other day and he was like, yeah,
- 0:32Speaker 3: I'm my way to Jez House.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I'm like for what He was like, I'm opening up
- 0:34Speaker 1: for Jesus.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I said, what you mean to open up?
- 0:36Speaker 1: It's like gz DJ as a Hoby used to do
- 0:38Speaker 1: it to shut up.
- 0:40Speaker 4: He was like, yes, DJ, Yeah, you know I used
- 0:43Speaker 4: to DJ back in the day when I was, you know,
- 0:45Speaker 4: young in the hood.
- 0:46Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I hustled up on.
- 0:47Speaker 4: The DJ set and uh, I was just going the hood,
- 0:50Speaker 4: just DJ on people's borges.
- 0:52Speaker 1: That was kind of my thing. But that's how I
- 0:53Speaker 1: got into music. You know what I'm saying. So for me,
- 0:56Speaker 1: it's just like it's like a pastime.
- 0:58Speaker 4: But you know, like the great Andre three thousand said,
- 1:00Speaker 4: if you can't find a vibe, you gotta create it.
- 1:03Speaker 1: So I just.
- 1:04Speaker 4: Invite dope people over to my crib, you know what
- 1:05Speaker 4: I'm saying. Curate it. You know, we might do some
- 1:08Speaker 4: some red wine and Popeye's Chicken, and I might throw
- 1:10Speaker 4: the set and we just get a cracking vibe.
- 1:16Speaker 2: That's interesting.
- 1:17Speaker 5: So that's how you've been feeling like you haven't been
- 1:18Speaker 5: finding a vibe late least you've been trying to create one.
- 1:21Speaker 4: Well, you know, I like to travel a lot, you
- 1:23Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I like to live, but
- 1:24Speaker 4: also I like to you know, like turn people onto
- 1:28Speaker 4: what I've learned when I've been around the world. So
- 1:31Speaker 4: it's just like different types of music, different types of curacis.
- 1:34Speaker 4: So it's just dope to have people come up to
- 1:36Speaker 4: your houses you trust and just vibe. You know, people
- 1:38Speaker 4: get tired of going our cameras everywhere. You know, some
- 1:41Speaker 4: very distinguished black people in Atlanta and they like to
- 1:43Speaker 4: really live. So I just like, come over to my
- 1:46Speaker 4: crib man, we just hang out, you know what. I'm
- 1:47Speaker 4: saying it's dope, though, is.
- 1:50Speaker 5: It like, is it all rapid?
- 1:52Speaker 1: No?
- 1:52Speaker 3: No, No, it was like no, it was like you
- 1:56Speaker 3: play everything, yeah, house music, old school, Yeah, it's vibe.
- 2:00Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I got so, I
- 2:02Speaker 4: got a little soup, I got a little something. You
- 2:05Speaker 4: should come nick safe.
- 2:07Speaker 5: You know, I'm you're gonna tell about everybody in the house.
- 2:11Speaker 5: Whoever in the house, I tell you everybody year anniversary
- 2:19Speaker 5: and one of the greatest hip hop albums?
- 2:21Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes.
- 2:22Speaker 2: What does it feel like mentally to have to revisit
- 2:24Speaker 2: that era?
- 2:26Speaker 4: To be honest with you, it feels like that album
- 2:31Speaker 4: was supposed to happen, uh, and even twenty years later,
- 2:36Speaker 4: just the the obstacles that I had to go through to,
- 2:39Speaker 4: you know, get this tour going and everything, it just
- 2:42Speaker 4: feels like deja vu. But the but the consequences are
- 2:46Speaker 4: not dire. They just real life things and you got
- 2:48Speaker 4: to show your adversity. And it feels like I was
- 2:51Speaker 4: just talking to somebody about the other day. It's just like, now,
- 2:54Speaker 4: Soul Survivor really resonates with me. It makes sense, you
- 2:57Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Because I'm a soul surviving and
- 2:59Speaker 4: I'm listening to the word. I'm like, oh, this is me,
- 3:01Speaker 4: this is who I am. You know when I wrote it,
- 3:03Speaker 4: it was a record. Now this is my life and
- 3:05Speaker 4: it's just like to be twenty because you got to think,
- 3:07Speaker 4: like you think about Park and Big you know, what
- 3:10Speaker 4: would they what would they have done twenty years in
- 3:13Speaker 4: the game.
- 3:13Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You.
- 3:15Speaker 4: Celebrating all eyes on me life after death twenty years later.
- 3:20Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. Park might have been DJ
- 3:22Speaker 1: in his basement.
- 3:22Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm saying, but I'm living life
- 3:25Speaker 4: and I'm going through you know, one of those stages
- 3:30Speaker 4: where you know, you get to watch the game line
- 3:33Speaker 4: wash the streets. You know what I'm saying. I'm in
- 3:35Speaker 4: this world, but I'm not of it, you know what
- 3:36Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I get to watch it. But at
- 3:39Speaker 4: the same time, I already put my work in so
- 3:41Speaker 4: I get to sit back. But I'm dealing with real
- 3:43Speaker 4: stuff now, running companies and doing deals and and you know,
- 3:47Speaker 4: empowering other people. So it's now I got to really
- 3:50Speaker 4: practice my skills of leadership, but with my catalog behind me,
- 3:56Speaker 4: because I can stand on that because it's solid you
- 3:58Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I'm not you know what,
- 3:59Speaker 4: I'm frank badly amazed. I could keep going if I
- 4:01Speaker 4: wanted to, but.
- 4:02Speaker 1: I got to.
- 4:03Speaker 3: You have survivors remorse at all because I used to.
- 4:05Speaker 1: You have so many people that you ran in. Yeah,
- 4:09Speaker 1: I used to. But everybody know me, they know what
- 4:11Speaker 1: I'm solid. You know what I'm saying.
- 4:12Speaker 4: But at the same time, my life is about peace,
- 4:14Speaker 4: join freedom, and I ain't e I'm saying that to
- 4:17Speaker 4: say a lot of people don't.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Survive the war. Baby, you know what I'm saying.
- 4:20Speaker 4: It's like I ain't got no reason to go back
- 4:22Speaker 4: and then to approve you know what I'm saying. I'm
- 4:24Speaker 4: just trying to live my life, make sure my people straight,
- 4:27Speaker 4: you know, put me into people as I could put
- 4:28Speaker 4: on and keep you know, just you know, just inspiring
- 4:32Speaker 4: and involving my culture, which is why I'm even doing
- 4:35Speaker 4: this symphony tour, which is crazy because I think I'm
- 4:38Speaker 4: the first one to ever take a symphony around the
- 4:41Speaker 4: world to do a tour. You know what I mean
- 4:43Speaker 4: to celebrate, you know, my first debut album, which is
- 4:48Speaker 4: about three four times platinum.
- 4:49Speaker 1: I ain't checked last.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Time, but I can't motivation on one.
- 4:57Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's crazy because it's like, you know, the
- 5:00Speaker 4: only time I remember putting on the suit is for
- 5:02Speaker 4: a funeral or wedding. It's a celebration and it's not
- 5:06Speaker 4: just about it's not just about you know, the music,
- 5:09Speaker 4: It's about everybody who came along with his journey with me.
- 5:12Speaker 1: That will celebrate.
- 5:13Speaker 4: Think about where you was twenty years ago, you know
- 5:15Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Where you were twenty years ago, where
- 5:17Speaker 4: y'all at now, it's a celebration of that because that
- 5:19Speaker 4: music reminds you of that time you was out there grinding.
- 5:22Speaker 1: But look what you grind it too.
- 5:23Speaker 4: So this is a reason for everybody put on a
- 5:25Speaker 4: suit in a nice black dress and come out and celebrate.
- 5:28Speaker 4: And I do want to say this, this is not
- 5:31Speaker 4: this is not the opera.
- 5:32Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 5:33Speaker 4: You're not gonna sit down and cross your legs. This
- 5:35Speaker 4: is a party, you know what I'm saying. At the
- 5:37Speaker 4: same time, you know, shout out to Adam Blackstone. You know,
- 5:41Speaker 4: he helped me produce it. De Hodges, he wrote the music.
- 5:45Speaker 4: He's actually conducting it. Those brothers are crazy about DJ
- 5:47Speaker 4: drama with me, So you know, it's a part that
- 5:49Speaker 4: got dj A's with me.
- 5:51Speaker 1: It's a celebration saying.
- 5:52Speaker 3: When you were making this album twenty years ago, right,
- 5:56Speaker 3: were you just making songs or were you thinking the future?
- 5:59Speaker 3: Were you thinking because you look at a lot of
- 6:01Speaker 3: people in the industry and the catalog is not strong,
- 6:03Speaker 3: right that first album, the catalog's not strong.
- 6:05Speaker 1: They can't go on tour.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Were you thinking about that when you're writing this first
- 6:08Speaker 3: album or was it just I'm just trying to get
- 6:10Speaker 3: out the hood.
- 6:10Speaker 1: I'm just I was.
- 6:11Speaker 4: Just trying to stay alive and free, and I just
- 6:14Speaker 4: wanted to be heard. And the reason why that album
- 6:16Speaker 4: is so solid is because I put everything in that.
- 6:20Speaker 4: You know, I didn't have another shot, you know what
- 6:22Speaker 4: I'm saying. It wasn't like no label was looking for me.
- 6:25Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I had spent all these
- 6:27Speaker 4: all these all this money to build this buzz and
- 6:31Speaker 4: I had this one opportunity. And you gotta think, like
- 6:33Speaker 4: I lost my voice, I tore my vocal cords, you know,
- 6:37Speaker 4: I had Bell's part. Like all these things happened at
- 6:39Speaker 4: one time, and I'm just like I was humbled and
- 6:42Speaker 4: the album got leaked four weeks before it came out.
- 6:45Speaker 4: Think about that. I was up against all that and
- 6:48Speaker 4: I'm still like praying, you know what I'm saying, And
- 6:51Speaker 4: it happened. So when I look back twenty years ago,
- 6:54Speaker 4: like I didn't realize what I was doing, but I
- 6:58Speaker 4: know to change the dejectory of my family and our
- 7:02Speaker 4: generation of wealth and getting my family in a better
- 7:04Speaker 4: place that this is all I had, you know what
- 7:07Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I put everything in that trappa dye
- 7:09Speaker 4: in this.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:11Speaker 4: Everything, by the way, I probably you know it was
- 7:13Speaker 4: riding around. You're still getting.
- 7:15Speaker 1: It right, statute of limitations or put that out there.
- 7:22Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting what you said about the record
- 7:24Speaker 5: sol survivor, because at that point in your life you
- 7:27Speaker 5: had survived to a certain extent, but you didn't you
- 7:29Speaker 5: didn't feel that way.
- 7:30Speaker 1: No, I mean you got to think about it.
- 7:32Speaker 4: I didn't really even start celebrating life until the recession.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I was.
- 7:36Speaker 4: I was out of it, bro I was drinking, smoking, living.
- 7:39Speaker 4: I'm just holding on, you know what I'm saying, because
- 7:41Speaker 4: I didn't know then I woke up one day It's like, damn,
- 7:44Speaker 4: I'm still free, you know.
- 7:46Speaker 1: You know, at any moment it could go yeah, and
- 7:49Speaker 1: ain't nothing like that.
- 7:49Speaker 4: That's some type of stress you don't even want, you
- 7:51Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because it's just it's every day,
- 7:53Speaker 4: it never stops, and you're always on edge. You're living
- 7:56Speaker 4: from uh you know, you're living from a survival mindset,
- 7:59Speaker 4: you know I'm saying. And you know when I woke
- 8:02Speaker 4: up on that day when I started to work on
- 8:04Speaker 4: the Recession, That's when I realized what abundance was.
- 8:08Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 8:09Speaker 4: I'm saying because now I'm like, I'm a superstar. You know,
- 8:11Speaker 4: I was telling them the other day. Man, I got
- 8:13Speaker 4: in the gym, got myself together. My first show in
- 8:16Speaker 4: Boston for the Recession tour. You know, I get the
- 8:20Speaker 4: stage and I'm telling the security guard, Hey, yo, they
- 8:22Speaker 4: throwing stuff at me. We got to get out here
- 8:24Speaker 4: and get down. He's like, sir, No, their panties like this.
- 8:32Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, object.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Bros and stuff.
- 8:41Speaker 4: And I'm like, Yo, this is this is different because
- 8:43Speaker 4: you got to think when I was doing shows, when
- 8:45Speaker 4: Doug Motivation came out, all the gangsters in the front.
- 8:48Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, all the all the hustlers.
- 8:50Speaker 4: It wasn't no women. I didn't have any women fans.
- 8:52Speaker 4: You know, shout out to the women fans out there,
- 8:54Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I didn't have that.
- 8:56Speaker 5: So when you put that record, the record with Tree
- 8:58Speaker 5: songs on the album, that was I'm trying to tell you, Jesus,
- 9:00Speaker 5: you got to make something for the lead.
- 9:02Speaker 1: That was me trying to do a record with Trey.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Oh okay, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. You ever
- 9:05Speaker 1: hung out with Trigger Drey? Yes? Yeah, it makes you
- 9:08Speaker 1: want to do records like this. I need that. I
- 9:12Speaker 1: need that about life, you know what I'm saying.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Emotionally? Do you ever get triggered when you're on stage
- 9:17Speaker 2: performing some of those records though?
- 9:18Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 9:19Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, especially like lately, because I'm so seasoned
- 9:22Speaker 4: with it that, you know, everything is like a sermon
- 9:25Speaker 4: to me.
- 9:26Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 9:26Speaker 4: I don't take dislikely and I don't I'm in a
- 9:29Speaker 4: space where i'm I'm I'm you know, I'm definitely I'm
- 9:35Speaker 4: blessed and I'm grateful to still have people that understand
- 9:38Speaker 4: what my mission is because it's my purpose, it's who
- 9:41Speaker 4: I am. Like, you know, a lot of people do
- 9:43Speaker 4: this because it has money or some type of uh
- 9:47Speaker 4: you know, some some type of something behind it.
- 9:49Speaker 1: But this is who I am every day, Like this
- 9:51Speaker 1: is my life.
- 9:51Speaker 4: Like when I walk out of here and I go
- 9:53Speaker 4: walk downstairs and I see somebody, they ain't talking about
- 9:55Speaker 4: the song. They talking about me, like we like, I
- 9:58Speaker 4: keep doing what you're doing because we live in through you.
- 10:01Speaker 4: So for me, it's just like some of those songs,
- 10:05Speaker 4: especially like twenty years later to see it, because I'm
- 10:07Speaker 4: gonna be honest, like Soul.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Survivor hits so different.
- 10:10Speaker 4: It hits so different, like because back then it was
- 10:13Speaker 4: a great song, you know, shout out to kids. Stewart,
- 10:15Speaker 4: you know, Recipeace he made me put that on the album.
- 10:18Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But my whole thing was
- 10:20Speaker 4: like I want to go trap or die, you know.
- 10:23Speaker 4: And imagine if I would have listened to that myself
- 10:25Speaker 4: and stayed on that trajectory.
- 10:27Speaker 1: And then where is that now?
- 10:28Speaker 4: Because when I'm doing this Soul Surviving arenas and I'm
- 10:31Speaker 4: looking at these kids, I'm looking at these people, I'm
- 10:34Speaker 4: like I want to do they realize like this is
- 10:36Speaker 4: who I am, you know what I'm saying, and this
- 10:38Speaker 4: is me living my dream being on the stage and
- 10:40Speaker 4: I'm still getting standing ovations twenty years later, you know
- 10:43Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I don't know nobody else that
- 10:46Speaker 4: can say that they're soul survivor and mean it like that.
- 10:49Speaker 4: So yeah, that record means a lot to me. And
- 10:51Speaker 4: even Trapper died, you know what I'm saying. It's just
- 10:53Speaker 4: like that's real. You know what I'm saying.
- 10:56Speaker 2: But you're not sitting on the block with your thank
- 10:58Speaker 2: God no more.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Nah. But we'll talk about that offline.
- 11:02Speaker 3: But I was gonna ask, does the street mentality actually leave?
- 11:07Speaker 1: Right? So if you see I.
- 11:08Speaker 3: Mean, and you've been around Jay and you're seeing his
- 11:10Speaker 3: evolution of being always looking over his shoulder to now
- 11:14Speaker 3: when I see him walking in the buildings, it's like free,
- 11:16Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about that.
- 11:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:17Speaker 3: And when I see fifty more, yeah, he feels more free.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Do you feel that way?
- 11:21Speaker 4: Yeah, Like there's always I mean, but I still got
- 11:24Speaker 4: it because I'm not exempt, but I understand what it is.
- 11:28Speaker 4: But you know, I carry myself with a level of integrity.
- 11:31Speaker 4: So it's just like, as long as I feel like
- 11:34Speaker 4: it's mutual respect, I don't feel like the need to
- 11:37Speaker 4: even have to watch the room. But I will tell
- 11:39Speaker 4: you this, I've been on a journey for about like
- 11:44Speaker 4: almost eight nine years now, you know what I'm saying.
- 11:46Speaker 4: But I can tell you at this point of my life,
- 11:47Speaker 4: like I'm really at peace, Like I don't worry about
- 11:50Speaker 4: the things that I can't control, and that is including people,
- 11:54Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So for me, it's just
- 11:56Speaker 4: like I don't you know, everybody know me. I float
- 11:58Speaker 4: around my with any city.
- 11:59Speaker 1: What got you there? Because it took you a long
- 12:01Speaker 1: time to get there? What got you there?
- 12:02Speaker 4: Work therapy, therapy, work, h journal and meditating all that,
- 12:07Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm not even gonna
- 12:09Speaker 4: hold you like it's real. And when you wake up
- 12:11Speaker 4: and you start to realize like okay, and you can
- 12:15Speaker 4: emotionally regulate and you and you know who you are,
- 12:18Speaker 4: you have nothing to prove. There's no better feeling, you
- 12:20Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because I don't got to prove anything.
- 12:22Speaker 1: And by the way you.
- 12:23Speaker 4: Can see, you can tell because people are attracted to
- 12:26Speaker 4: that because they can tell that that's how you feel.
- 12:28Speaker 4: Piece attracts peace, Chaos attracts chaos anyway around that. You
- 12:32Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. If you if you got nervous energy,
- 12:34Speaker 4: you're gonna tract nervous people. I ain't invite no nervous
- 12:36Speaker 4: people to my house. Watch me, DJ.
- 12:38Speaker 1: You know that, yep.
- 12:40Speaker 2: I want to go back. You mentioned j Z.
- 12:42Speaker 5: Do you remember the moment when jay Z told you
- 12:45Speaker 5: that album was a classic? I remember reading that and
- 12:47Speaker 5: maybe double.
- 12:48Speaker 1: He said to me.
- 12:51Speaker 4: He said to me, you got a brand. He texts me.
- 12:55Speaker 4: He was like, you got a brand. And I didn't
- 12:57Speaker 4: know what that meant at first, but you know, twenty
- 12:59Speaker 4: years later, I can see that what he meant, like
- 13:04Speaker 4: you actually stand for something and people understand what that is. Right,
- 13:08Speaker 4: So it's almost like your bread could be anything. But
- 13:12Speaker 4: my brain has always been motivation, you know what I'm saying.
- 13:15Speaker 4: But if you coming out with your first album, it's
- 13:17Speaker 4: hard to tell people you're motivating people.
- 13:19Speaker 1: But twenty years later, that's what it is.
- 13:21Speaker 4: I'm still doing what I know how to do best,
- 13:23Speaker 4: and that's what he was trying to get me to see.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Like stay there.
- 13:25Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Because you know, music was changing.
- 13:27Speaker 4: You know, we all want to be hot, but it's
- 13:30Speaker 4: like when you when you when you're on fire in
- 13:31Speaker 4: the inside, you don't need to be on fireside. You
- 13:33Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I ain't got to chase nothing.
- 13:35Speaker 4: But then I would have you know what I'm saying.
- 13:37Speaker 4: You know, like you know it was snap music, it
- 13:39Speaker 4: was crunk music. I had to figure it out. You know,
- 13:41Speaker 4: I'm rapping it and I'm making songs that are the Temple,
- 13:44Speaker 4: you know, seventy two. You know, you think about knock
- 13:47Speaker 4: if you buck. You know that was up there. So
- 13:49Speaker 4: I'm in the club competing with that, thinking, man, maybe
- 13:52Speaker 4: I should, you know. But he was more saying like
- 13:55Speaker 4: stay there, you're good.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't he tell you that that album was
- 13:58Speaker 2: a classic?
- 13:59Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah he did. He did. He hit me up.
- 14:02Speaker 4: He was just like yo, I think when he heard
- 14:06Speaker 4: it for the first time because I played it for him,
- 14:08Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And yeah, he definitely told me.
- 14:11Speaker 4: He was like, Yo, this this one here gonna live
- 14:13Speaker 4: with you. And you know me, I was already on
- 14:16Speaker 4: to the next one. I was like, what I'm to
- 14:17Speaker 4: do for the next album, because you know how it
- 14:19Speaker 4: is you living from you know, you're living from that
- 14:21Speaker 4: place survivor.
- 14:22Speaker 1: You're like, man, if.
- 14:22Speaker 4: This worked, I gotta be ready to go in because
- 14:25Speaker 4: that's a lot of pressure, you know what I'm saying.
- 14:27Speaker 4: I don't know if that helped me when he told
- 14:28Speaker 4: me it was a classic, because you know, back then,
- 14:30Speaker 4: you know, I was a little wild, So that got
- 14:32Speaker 4: to you know that that definitely, uh, you know, made
- 14:34Speaker 4: my head a little bigger.
- 14:35Speaker 1: So that definitely, you know, like that to my ego.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Did you ask him to get on Dope Boy Go Crazy? Yes?
- 14:41Speaker 4: Absolutely, I remember playing it. So first of all, that
- 14:44Speaker 4: record was a record that I heard when I was
- 14:47Speaker 4: over somebody else's trap house and they was playing this
- 14:49Speaker 4: Tip mixtape. I think it was Down with the King
- 14:52Speaker 4: and I was just over there and I was kicking
- 14:54Speaker 4: and it was playing it. They asked me that I
- 14:56Speaker 4: hear it, and I heard that I heard him rapping
- 14:58Speaker 4: over to Go Crazy, and I'm like damn, I said,
- 15:01Speaker 4: who made the beat?
- 15:02Speaker 1: There was like Don Cannon. So I left and I
- 15:05Speaker 1: called Don Cannon.
- 15:06Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I need a beat like that,
- 15:09Speaker 4: and then he said why not use that beat? And
- 15:11Speaker 4: I said, okay, what you mean and he said tipped
- 15:13Speaker 4: And by the beat he just rapped over. I was like,
- 15:16Speaker 4: bet where you at and pull up on you. Now
- 15:18Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying right now? I got the
- 15:20Speaker 4: I got the record. I had a meeting in Death Jam,
- 15:24Speaker 4: so I flew in. Me and coach k flew into
- 15:26Speaker 4: UH to New York.
- 15:28Speaker 1: That morning. He picked me up from the studio. We
- 15:30Speaker 1: flew in.
- 15:31Speaker 4: We flew back that same night. On the way back,
- 15:34Speaker 4: I wrote go crazy on the plane. You know what
- 15:36Speaker 4: I'm saying flying back to Atlanta. Recorded that night, I
- 15:39Speaker 4: had three verses. Death Jam came about two weeks later,
- 15:43Speaker 4: and it was all in pass works and I played
- 15:44Speaker 4: the whole album and when I got to that song,
- 15:46Speaker 4: it was all clapping when it was done, and I
- 15:48Speaker 4: was like, Yo, by the way, I'm putting jay Z
- 15:50Speaker 4: on the song. I said, y'all need to work that out.
- 15:52Speaker 4: To La read that, yeah, speak of the existence. And
- 16:00Speaker 4: one day for the BT Awards, I was out in
- 16:02Speaker 4: LA and who called me to his hotel.
- 16:05Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, come by to come by the hotel.
- 16:07Speaker 4: So we sit upstairs and this suite outside on the patio,
- 16:10Speaker 4: smoking cigars, just talking because we never talked about music.
- 16:12Speaker 4: We always talk about life. And then he was like, uh,
- 16:17Speaker 4: what verse You're gonna take off? And I was like,
- 16:19Speaker 4: we mean and then he was talking about go Craze.
- 16:22Speaker 4: I had three verses and then he said, uh, I'm
- 16:25Speaker 4: doing it, by.
- 16:25Speaker 1: The way, and I was like, take it. You can
- 16:28Speaker 1: take them all off. That's what you want to do.
- 16:32Speaker 4: I still on the hook, and I remember I never
- 16:35Speaker 4: forget it. We was at kDa in New York. I mean,
- 16:38Speaker 4: I'm sorry in LA and Coach K walk in like
- 16:41Speaker 4: we're doing an interview like this. Coach K walk in.
- 16:43Speaker 4: He was like I got it, and I'm like what
- 16:45Speaker 4: He's like? I got the jay Z versus me a interview.
- 16:47Speaker 4: I told the guy, I think it's Julio. I said, Julio,
- 16:50Speaker 4: you got We stopped the interview. I got hold up
- 16:52Speaker 4: and I go outside and I told him to come
- 16:54Speaker 4: in the hallway. Coach played press play and I heard that.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Verse more than a hustle on the Death Kitchen cover.
- 17:02Speaker 1: I was happy at first, but then I started thinking.
- 17:05Speaker 5: That it's okay records.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Ever, yeah I was.
- 17:16Speaker 1: I was. I was like, damn, okay, how did this work?
- 17:19Speaker 1: You know? I think I got him back on seeing
- 17:22Speaker 1: it all though, I think so yeah.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Motivation one on one.
- 17:27Speaker 3: Is there a record that didn't make the album because
- 17:29Speaker 3: of clearance or for whatever reason that you said, Damn,
- 17:31Speaker 3: I wish that one made that album.
- 17:33Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a bunch of like mixtape stuff that
- 17:36Speaker 4: didn't make it. And the thing about it is like
- 17:39Speaker 4: the album really got pressured out. You know what I'm saying.
- 17:41Speaker 4: Because one of the interns who was up there, who
- 17:45Speaker 4: was trying to get his beats on the album, we'll
- 17:48Speaker 4: get a beat on the album. You know, I never
- 17:51Speaker 4: did anything on his records, and I left my drives
- 17:54Speaker 4: at Patchworks, So I guess he got mad and leaked
- 17:59Speaker 4: the album four weeks before it came out. So now
- 18:04Speaker 4: Bell's palsy, uh my vocal cords. All these things happening
- 18:10Speaker 4: at once, and now the album's leaked. So now I'm
- 18:13Speaker 4: sitting there and I'm like, what am I gonna do?
- 18:17Speaker 4: Because now I got to think of the next plan.
- 18:19Speaker 4: So I can't go back to the streets. You know
- 18:21Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Because now I'm like, damn, like this
- 18:23Speaker 4: is it, And I'll never forget I went to pass Works.
- 18:26Speaker 4: You know, I caught a lawsuit. I'll say that, you
- 18:28Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Because I had.
- 18:29Speaker 2: To bring the books.
- 18:33Speaker 4: Read right and and uh, you know, actually it helped me,
- 18:38Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So you know what they say,
- 18:40Speaker 4: no no weapon, you know, form against me, so possible
- 18:43Speaker 4: help me because it went to all the bootlegs and
- 18:44Speaker 4: it spread it everywhere. And the thing that I had
- 18:46Speaker 4: the most anxiety about out of every thing was I
- 18:50Speaker 4: had to pick a single right. And on mixtapes they
- 18:53Speaker 4: try to put that they pick it for you. So
- 18:55Speaker 4: by the time he leaked it and it was already going,
- 18:58Speaker 4: I didn't know what I was going with. And I
- 19:00Speaker 4: was still pushing trapa Dye the song, and the label
- 19:03Speaker 4: called me and Secure called me. He's like yo, He's like, yeah,
- 19:06Speaker 4: you can shoot trapa Dive. That's what you want to do.
- 19:08Speaker 4: We're shooting Soul survivor how do you want to shoot
- 19:10Speaker 4: the video. Came to Brooklyn, shot the video. Everybody showed up, Hold,
- 19:13Speaker 4: Jim Jones, Cameron, you name it.
- 19:16Speaker 1: It was crazy.
- 19:17Speaker 4: It was It was festive and the video you know,
- 19:21Speaker 4: we did it like paid him full. It was crazy.
- 19:25Speaker 4: It was probably one of the most memorable moments in
- 19:27Speaker 4: my career. You know what I'm saying, Because you know,
- 19:29Speaker 4: you always heard stories about Brooklyn, like, ain't nobody come
- 19:31Speaker 4: to Brooklyn. They're like, Jesus, we love you, Like I'm
- 19:33Speaker 4: I'm out in Brooklyn shooting the video and everybody from
- 19:36Speaker 4: the blocks coming out and.
- 19:38Speaker 1: The whole label was there.
- 19:40Speaker 4: A lot of guys from Atlanta came in like it was,
- 19:42Speaker 4: it was, it was it And when the video came out,
- 19:45Speaker 4: it was gone. And I didn't And I told I
- 19:47Speaker 4: was telling somebody that I knew Akon from being around
- 19:52Speaker 4: the way because it was like him and Boo.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I couldn't tell him apart, right, you know what I'm saying.
- 19:56Speaker 4: So I didn't realize he was that big overseas and
- 20:00Speaker 4: I didn't. And then this was the first collaboration that
- 20:03Speaker 4: I've ever done, so I didn't realize doing a record
- 20:05Speaker 4: with somebody that you can actually tap into their fan
- 20:08Speaker 4: base too, on a national level or a global level, right,
- 20:11Speaker 4: And I ain't know that. So it went from me
- 20:13Speaker 4: being able to walk through the airport, you know what
- 20:15Speaker 4: I'm saying seven a m. To catch my flight to
- 20:18Speaker 4: like now I'm walking through the airport. Everybody, Hey, con
- 20:21Speaker 4: I like, where you from?
- 20:22Speaker 1: Brother Africa? Man? We love you.
- 20:23Speaker 4: I'm like, oh man, you know what I'm saying. So
- 20:25Speaker 4: it was love and it was just like one thing
- 20:27Speaker 4: I say about the boy Khin. He's different, you know
- 20:29Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because he's over there, you know, and
- 20:32Speaker 4: they love him.
- 20:32Speaker 1: You know.
- 20:33Speaker 4: I shows with him in Africa and I'm like, okay,
- 20:37Speaker 4: like what is going on? Nobody knows who I am,
- 20:39Speaker 4: but know who you are. And he was like, you
- 20:41Speaker 4: got to be over here a little bit more. And
- 20:43Speaker 4: I love that, you know what I'm saying. And we
- 20:45Speaker 4: over the years hit me up, you know, over the
- 20:48Speaker 4: years we always stayed locked in.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Hear me up.
- 20:49Speaker 4: The other day, I was like, yo, we number one
- 20:51Speaker 4: on TikTok. I don't even know what that means, but
- 20:53Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Really flippir of the judge, Yeah he did.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Yeah, probably why he got them ten.
- 21:07Speaker 4: I'm trying to get him off for about phone and
- 21:09Speaker 4: a half. But yeah, yeah, shout out to ma'a man.
- 21:12Speaker 1: I'm shocked that you didn't know that you were such
- 21:14Speaker 1: a taxable. I'm really sitting here like how did you not?
- 21:17Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like in the you know, like
- 21:19Speaker 4: I didn't know that then, you know what I'm saying,
- 21:21Speaker 4: cause you got to think like back then when I
- 21:23Speaker 4: was doing.
- 21:23Speaker 1: You know, I was I'm five eight, I was two sixty,
- 21:27Speaker 1: skin bad. I want drinking water. My danet was waffle
- 21:31Speaker 1: House and Crystal.
- 21:33Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm partying all day because
- 21:35Speaker 4: I didn't know if I was going to be home
- 21:38Speaker 4: for real.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Yeah I was in.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Now.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, not get it now.
- 21:44Speaker 4: I mean even on the intellectual level, like I know
- 21:45Speaker 4: that I can sit down smart with the best of them.
- 21:48Speaker 1: I know that for a fact.
- 21:49Speaker 2: We saw you with Neil.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Yeah shot and then I.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Said I was even saying a lot of women in
- 21:55Speaker 3: the commons saying, oh after the divorce, man, he looked
- 21:58Speaker 3: even better.
- 21:59Speaker 4: Oh wow, I received that.
- 22:03Speaker 3: But I know that that was like an intense time.
- 22:06Speaker 3: You know, last year, you're going through all of that,
- 22:07Speaker 3: even with you know, the custody battle she did win
- 22:11Speaker 3: and everything.
- 22:11Speaker 5: Where are things with you on your ex now?
- 22:13Speaker 1: Peace? Yeah? Peace?
- 22:15Speaker 6: Man.
- 22:15Speaker 1: I just I'm I'm all about understanding.
- 22:18Speaker 4: I'm all about what's best for everybody, the greater you know,
- 22:21Speaker 4: the greater good. And it's just like I'm just telling you,
- 22:23Speaker 4: like my life, I tell myself this every day, like, man,
- 22:27Speaker 4: this is amazing. I don't got no enemies. I ain't
- 22:31Speaker 4: got no issues. I don't want no enemies. I don't
- 22:33Speaker 4: want no issues. I just want peace. I just want
- 22:36Speaker 4: joy and I just want freed. I love my freedom.
- 22:39Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like I love it, like
- 22:40Speaker 4: you just talk about I came up here independently. I
- 22:42Speaker 4: just call like I'm coming to the breakfast club. You
- 22:44Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like I ain't got a check in,
- 22:46Speaker 4: I ain't gotta you know, I ain't got to talk
- 22:48Speaker 4: to no label. I ain't got to do nothing to
- 22:50Speaker 4: shout out to death jam. I love y'all. But it's
- 22:52Speaker 4: just like freedom and ownership is is everything. You know
- 22:57Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Especially when you're talking art, you're talking culture,
- 23:00Speaker 4: talk to your mind. You know what I'm saying, Like
- 23:01Speaker 4: I've worked hard my whole life. This is like this,
- 23:04Speaker 4: this is the season of me. You know what I'm saying.
- 23:06Speaker 4: I'm putting myself first. It all costs, you know what
- 23:09Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's just like my piece is everything. Like
- 23:11Speaker 4: everybody didn't know me. Know that, you know what I'm saying.
- 23:13Speaker 4: They calm and be like, yeah, bro, Like I love you,
- 23:15Speaker 4: but don't call me even nothing crazy.
- 23:17Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 23:17Speaker 3: I want to ask you know, how was that because
- 23:19Speaker 3: you're very private, very private person, but that was so
- 23:22Speaker 3: public did not irk you at all, like everybody in
- 23:25Speaker 3: your business talking about you.
- 23:28Speaker 4: Well, I had to come to the realization that I
- 23:31Speaker 4: know who I am and that nobody else can't tell
- 23:34Speaker 4: me different. So as long as I stayed on the
- 23:37Speaker 4: path of integrity and staying true to myself, it wasn't
- 23:40Speaker 4: nothing really to worry about because anybody didn't know me,
- 23:42Speaker 4: Like I mean, I even heard y'all was up here, like, no,
- 23:44Speaker 4: I know, I know Jezu you know that. But that's
- 23:47Speaker 4: that's because my reputation exceeds me. I'm like, I ain't
- 23:50Speaker 4: on I ain't on nothing, you know what I'm saying.
- 23:52Speaker 4: That's I need to be you know what I'm saying.
- 23:54Speaker 1: And I'm not.
- 23:55Speaker 4: So it's just like it comes with the territory, you
- 23:59Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, he who wears the crown. It's
- 24:01Speaker 4: just like, you know, people talked about Jesus, you know
- 24:04Speaker 4: what I'm saying, They're gonna talk about everybody.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Everybody's not gonna like you.
- 24:06Speaker 4: Now, if I'm a good person to you and you
- 24:09Speaker 4: don't like me, then there's a problem. But if you
- 24:11Speaker 4: don't like me because of what you heard or what
- 24:13Speaker 4: you think, then I ain't none of my spiritual business.
- 24:16Speaker 4: I can't do nothing about that, you know what I'm saying.
- 24:17Speaker 4: I can't even convince you because your mind has made up. However,
- 24:20Speaker 4: if you know me and we had some type of
- 24:23Speaker 4: interaction and action, I haven't done anything wrong to you,
- 24:27Speaker 4: then that says more about you than me, because now
- 24:30Speaker 4: you judge and now you judge me. There's no judgment
- 24:32Speaker 4: here because I'm not perfect by far. But if I
- 24:35Speaker 4: haven't done anything to you, then you can't take that
- 24:38Speaker 4: position because you know, the people around me got real
- 24:42Speaker 4: love for me and my friends in my circle, like
- 24:45Speaker 4: I never felt any type of just but the people
- 24:48Speaker 4: who wasn't for me of course, and that I mean
- 24:51Speaker 4: that did me a solid. Now I ain't got to
- 24:52Speaker 4: even worry about cutting you off.
- 24:54Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, would get married again? Hit
- 24:58Speaker 1: me up. I'm gonna be all the way on it.
- 25:00Speaker 1: I love my freedom and it has nothing to do
- 25:05Speaker 1: and has nothing to do with anything in the past.
- 25:09Speaker 4: I just love my freedom, you know what I'm saying,
- 25:11Speaker 4: Like I love it, you know I think like partners
- 25:13Speaker 4: are amazing, you know, I would think.
- 25:15Speaker 5: So, how did you feel when the Internet said you
- 25:18Speaker 5: were you were trying to holler at me along by
- 25:19Speaker 5: any means necessarily.
- 25:20Speaker 4: It wasn't lying, It was not lying. I don't know,
- 25:30Speaker 4: but I was real. Men, I never cheated like that. No,
- 25:35Speaker 4: I don't cheat me like that. I'm saying, like, that's
- 25:38Speaker 4: a little hanging fruit. If I'm not, I'm like, then
- 25:40Speaker 4: we got to be married. Like, I'm just not a cheater.
- 25:42Speaker 4: That's like, I'm not gonna cheat my friends, you know
- 25:44Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Not I'm not. That ain't in my blood.
- 25:47Speaker 4: But but but you said I was trying to holler. Yeah,
- 25:49Speaker 4: I was, you know, but I had to be respectful
- 25:51Speaker 4: because I was still you know, finalizing, you.
- 25:53Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
- 25:54Speaker 1: So it was hard. It was tough saying focus.
- 26:01Speaker 3: They don't link it with everybody. They don't link you everybody, Vanity.
- 26:06Speaker 3: The other day, when you did that, they.
- 26:07Speaker 1: Would do that. They would do.
- 26:09Speaker 4: We love Cynthia. Man shout out to Cynthia. That's a home.
- 26:12Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. No, No, now the other one.
- 26:15Speaker 6: Yeah, I just said on that real quick on.
- 26:26Speaker 2: The other one.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely everything is filized. Park Leta hit the Park.
- 26:31Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna play about that.
- 26:34Speaker 2: So you said you might see her at some of
- 26:35Speaker 2: these shows.
- 26:36Speaker 4: I mean, listen, she's invited. I know she has a
- 26:40Speaker 4: beautiful black dress. He's definitely invited.
- 26:43Speaker 5: I do want to know what what inspired you to
- 26:45Speaker 5: reimagine the album in this way though, because I'm sitting
- 26:49Speaker 5: I'm like your symphony orchestra, black tie, twist.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Your fingers up back.
- 26:53Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 26:53Speaker 4: Man. But when we did it with the we did
- 26:57Speaker 4: it in Atlanta was the first one.
- 26:59Speaker 1: It was.
- 27:00Speaker 4: There's no feeling like that because there was a lot
- 27:01Speaker 4: of people that I saw and by the way, I've
- 27:03Speaker 4: been trying to do this.
- 27:04Speaker 1: For you know, at least five years.
- 27:06Speaker 4: But it was like so many people that I saw
- 27:08Speaker 4: in the crowd that I knew personally that I was
- 27:12Speaker 4: just proud of where they was at because they're successful
- 27:15Speaker 4: this and that, but they don't want to come to
- 27:18Speaker 4: a show where they feel I want to bring my
- 27:19Speaker 4: woman out, I want to get you. I want to
- 27:21Speaker 4: go to dinner before and hit the spot after. This
- 27:24Speaker 4: is a celebration. This isn't a show or a concert.
- 27:27Speaker 4: This is a one night you know, one man, one
- 27:30Speaker 4: mic thing, and it's just like, why not celebrate the
- 27:32Speaker 4: evolution of it? And also I would like to add
- 27:35Speaker 4: that I feel like it's my moral obligation because I
- 27:39Speaker 4: was the one that told these kids that trapa down.
- 27:42Speaker 4: I feel like it's my moral obligation to show them
- 27:45Speaker 4: evolution in this and that you don't have to change
- 27:47Speaker 4: to evolve, you know what I'm saying. It's like, if
- 27:50Speaker 4: you make art, it should grow with you, right, it shouldn't.
- 27:53Speaker 4: You shouldn't have to be a different person, because I
- 27:55Speaker 4: think that's why they run into the roadblocks. It's just
- 27:58Speaker 4: like I gotta be thug forever, you know what I'm saying.
- 28:00Speaker 4: And that's if that's how you feel, that's how you feel.
- 28:02Speaker 1: But I don't.
- 28:04Speaker 4: I ain't gonna gotta be on the block with my
- 28:07Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like now I'm in the boardrooms,
- 28:09Speaker 4: right and that's okay. And my thing is my is
- 28:11Speaker 4: my mind because I know I'm a lot of water
- 28:14Speaker 4: dos and I don't been through enough to know that
- 28:16Speaker 4: if the press is on, I'm not worried about losing
- 28:18Speaker 4: my job. They may be I'm gonna make sound decisions
- 28:21Speaker 4: because I've been through it before, so that's my gift.
- 28:23Speaker 1: But for the.
- 28:25Speaker 4: Culture, it hurts me to know these young men and
- 28:30Speaker 4: to see them in these situations. I care bro Like,
- 28:33Speaker 4: I don't care what nobody These are my These are
- 28:35Speaker 4: like my little brothers, and I know I can't change them, right,
- 28:39Speaker 4: so I can't judge them. The only thing I could
- 28:41Speaker 4: do is what I saw, like hold them do for me.
- 28:44Speaker 4: Just leave by example, you know what I mean, Just
- 28:46Speaker 4: do your thing and just leave the door open or
- 28:49Speaker 4: the back door at least, because it's not easy, like
- 28:51Speaker 4: to even get to this point and all the turmoil
- 28:55Speaker 4: and those that got closed on me just to even
- 28:57Speaker 4: do this this project, you know what I'm saying. I
- 29:01Speaker 4: had to really really realize, like, okay, you still you
- 29:03Speaker 4: So you gotta really, you know, do this the right
- 29:05Speaker 4: way and it's on your own. But you gotta realize
- 29:08Speaker 4: they ain't gonna let just let you in this.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Door like that.
- 29:10Speaker 4: But so I got to make sure I leave the
- 29:12Speaker 4: door open for the kids. It's coming up with the
- 29:14Speaker 4: generation behind it because if you really look at it,
- 29:17Speaker 4: when Trappa Daye dropped up motivation all this, if you've
- 29:20Speaker 4: seen the influx of street cats, that got into music
- 29:23Speaker 4: because there was like man, I saw Jesus, I know
- 29:28Speaker 4: people that he actually was affiliated with, got down with
- 29:31Speaker 4: whatever cities he'd been to, whatever, So I know, if
- 29:34Speaker 4: he can do it, I can do it. The only
- 29:36Speaker 4: problem is the rules are different because ain't nobody, ain't
- 29:38Speaker 4: no big homies, so it's like the wild, wild West,
- 29:41Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's probably why I'm listening
- 29:42Speaker 4: to the house music these days, you know what I'm saying,
- 29:44Speaker 4: because it's like I love the music, but it's a
- 29:46Speaker 4: different vibration, so I don't need that all day. I
- 29:49Speaker 4: can listen to it in the gym, right, but I'm
- 29:51Speaker 4: not gonna listen to it, you know when I get
- 29:53Speaker 4: up in the morning to go do what I gotta do,
- 29:55Speaker 4: because I want to keep it, you know. But at
- 29:58Speaker 4: the same time, I feel like it's my more gason,
- 30:00Speaker 4: like in my heart, you know what I'm saying, Like
- 30:01Speaker 4: that's my purpose to inspire and to help culture evolve,
- 30:08Speaker 4: Like that's that's my purpose.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Do you have conversations with the younger artists? And the
- 30:11Speaker 3: reason I ask is yeah, it's like you said, you know,
- 30:14Speaker 3: we talk about it all the time. We did a
- 30:15Speaker 3: lot of super stuff back then, but there was none
- 30:18Speaker 3: of this. There was no internet, right, They weren't telling
- 30:20Speaker 3: on themselves. But now it just seems like it's the
- 30:22Speaker 3: cool thing to tell everybody what you did, hate it
- 30:24Speaker 3: illegal or not, which is the wow.
- 30:26Speaker 4: Crazy because there's no integrity and there's nobody to follow,
- 30:29Speaker 4: which is why I don't do a lot of interviews.
- 30:31Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I come talk to y'all.
- 30:32Speaker 4: We don't kick it, but I don't got nothing to
- 30:35Speaker 4: say to somebody who's looking for ignorance. For me, you
- 30:38Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I'm not. I'm still operating by
- 30:40Speaker 4: the cold. You know what I'm saying. These people are
- 30:43Speaker 4: moving the goalposts. I don't like that. I don't want
- 30:45Speaker 4: to play in that game. You know what I'm saying.
- 30:47Speaker 4: Every time it's something different. Why is it something different
- 30:49Speaker 4: for them or not me, you know what I'm saying,
- 30:51Speaker 4: or us? So for me, I feel for them because
- 30:54Speaker 4: they don't got nobody to follow, you know what I'm saying.
- 30:56Speaker 4: And there's nothing like giving somebody this because you got
- 30:59Speaker 4: to think about it. One got the type of money
- 31:00Speaker 4: he got, but he ain't get Lebron money for playing.
- 31:03Speaker 4: So they're giving them a different type of money, and
- 31:05Speaker 4: they're using the money. They still got trauma, they still
- 31:08Speaker 4: got things going on that's so important to them that
- 31:11Speaker 4: they feel like they got to deal with. But now
- 31:12Speaker 4: you're giving them money to few the war.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Man.
- 31:14Speaker 5: I seen this kid on TikTok A Couples. Remember I
- 31:17Speaker 5: showing you that video. The dude was literally in his
- 31:19Speaker 5: room crying to his girlfriend because his object came up
- 31:23Speaker 5: on some money, right, and the way he was serious,
- 31:26Speaker 5: he was like, man like, man, they're gonna have all
- 31:27Speaker 5: the type of choppers and switching you ain't fair.
- 31:30Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, first of all, while you're recording this one.
- 31:33Speaker 1: He's probably trying to get a safe haven.
- 31:37Speaker 2: You know who it is.
- 31:38Speaker 1: I don't respect it. You know.
- 31:39Speaker 4: I said I wasn't gonna talk about it when I
- 31:41Speaker 4: came up here because I feel like, ain't none of
- 31:43Speaker 4: my spiritual business. But as somebody who's been in the game,
- 31:45Speaker 4: a part of the game and in this world or
- 31:47Speaker 4: not of it, I just don't respect it. Ain't no integrity.
- 31:50Speaker 4: Like everybody getting up here, they talking too much. They're
- 31:52Speaker 4: saying too many things, and that's okay. Then the next
- 31:55Speaker 4: generation gonna do the same thing and even worse, it
- 31:57Speaker 4: even worse. And I'm only concerned about the culture because
- 32:00Speaker 4: at some point, when nobody respects it no more, they're
- 32:02Speaker 4: not going to respect the art form.
- 32:03Speaker 1: It don't even matter what you say. It'll be like
- 32:06Speaker 1: we'll be obsolete.
- 32:07Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Cause at nothing ain't no
- 32:10Speaker 4: there ain't no integrity behind what we're doing or saying,
- 32:13Speaker 4: because we're doing anything, and it looks like we're doing
- 32:15Speaker 4: anything for money, right, and I don't like that because
- 32:19Speaker 4: I'm not doing anything for money.
- 32:20Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 32:21Speaker 4: I probably turned down more than I accept because it
- 32:24Speaker 4: got to be in line with my purpose.
- 32:25Speaker 1: And that's just me. I'm not asking nobody else to
- 32:27Speaker 1: be that way.
- 32:28Speaker 4: But when you speak of a culture, you can see
- 32:30Speaker 4: why people kind of stay away from it because they're
- 32:32Speaker 4: kind of like, I don't know if I want to
- 32:34Speaker 4: be affiliated with that, you know what I'm saying, because
- 32:36Speaker 4: I don't. I don't, you know, And if all my
- 32:40Speaker 4: kids are going to think is that you know that
- 32:43Speaker 4: I was an artist, and that's it. I'm a father first,
- 32:47Speaker 4: I'm a man first, you know what I'm saying. I'm
- 32:48Speaker 4: a CEO first. You know what I'm saying, I'm a
- 32:50Speaker 4: big brother first. You know what I'm saying, I'm all
- 32:53Speaker 4: the things. I'm a son, you know. So we can't
- 32:55Speaker 4: just get categorized and boxed into what we are as
- 32:59Speaker 4: far as coach and go live that out, because then
- 33:02Speaker 4: if something happened to your kids, are the ones that suffering.
- 33:05Speaker 4: You know, ain't nothing like having a daddy that was
- 33:07Speaker 4: rich and now we ain't got nothing because he made
- 33:10Speaker 4: a decision for what he thought was right.
- 33:13Speaker 1: They had nothing to do with anybody. And you asked
- 33:15Speaker 1: me earlier.
- 33:15Speaker 4: And I ain't calling no names because I ain't trying
- 33:17Speaker 4: to call nobody out because I love them, bro, I
- 33:19Speaker 4: don't want to set on these catch beds in their
- 33:22Speaker 4: house and they room like, hey man, we got to talk,
- 33:24Speaker 4: bro like on a call, like hey man.
- 33:26Speaker 1: What you got going? Bro Like, come pull up on me.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. Man. I'm did to so many times.
- 33:31Speaker 4: And I think that the disconnect is when they when
- 33:35Speaker 4: these labels are giving these kids these type of money, money.
- 33:38Speaker 1: Equals respect to them.
- 33:40Speaker 4: So it's like, I'm not listening to you because you
- 33:43Speaker 4: ain't doing nothing for me. And I got this, which
- 33:45Speaker 4: is fine now sustaining it is a whole different conversation,
- 33:50Speaker 4: but even keeping you because now you got the change
- 33:54Speaker 4: to change generational wealth, you know what I'm saying, or.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Either put those kids in.
- 33:58Speaker 4: It's a difference between your kids going to to public
- 34:01Speaker 4: school in private school or having those type of friends
- 34:03Speaker 4: when they grow up, because that's what it's about, like
- 34:05Speaker 4: their relationships and who they're gonna meet and grow up
- 34:08Speaker 4: with and go to college with and all that. Because
- 34:10Speaker 4: it ain't about you. It's about your kids, right. But
- 34:12Speaker 4: just imagine that everything's going great, everybody's loving this new
- 34:17Speaker 4: life we got, and then you just make a decision.
- 34:19Speaker 4: It's purely based on the motions and ego. And I
- 34:22Speaker 4: tell everybody, man, a bad day for the ego is
- 34:25Speaker 4: a great day for the soul.
- 34:26Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 34:27Speaker 4: Because I've had to make so many unpopular decisions, but
- 34:30Speaker 4: it all worked out for me because I'm in peace
- 34:32Speaker 4: right and I ain't gotta play, you know what I'm saying.
- 34:36Speaker 4: It's like I don't got to play the game because
- 34:38Speaker 4: if you come over here, you know what I'm saying,
- 34:40Speaker 4: We're gonna be in the right. It's not even it
- 34:42Speaker 4: ain't even about being gangs. It's about being a man.
- 34:44Speaker 4: It's just like I don't want to be nothwhere around it.
- 34:46Speaker 4: I love y'all. You can come one on you know,
- 34:49Speaker 4: one on one, but don't bring all your partners. I
- 34:51Speaker 4: don't want to be bothered that, you know what I'm saying,
- 34:52Speaker 4: But I feel for them because you know, it's a
- 34:56Speaker 4: lot of web pendles in that penitentium.
- 34:58Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying, there's a lot of.
- 35:01Speaker 2: I do want to say.
- 35:02Speaker 5: In regard to the music you used to make twenty
- 35:04Speaker 5: years ago, you can't beat yourself up about that because
- 35:06Speaker 5: you was doing the best.
- 35:07Speaker 2: You could with the information you had at the time.
- 35:10Speaker 5: And when I listened a third motivation one on one
- 35:13Speaker 5: that don't just a hustle is a hustle, I don't
- 35:16Speaker 5: mean that leaving me.
- 35:17Speaker 1: To no no, no.
- 35:18Speaker 4: And I don't want you to think that I'm tripping.
- 35:19Speaker 4: I'm saying because I always knew it was a position
- 35:22Speaker 4: of leadership. I always understood that now what I was
- 35:25Speaker 4: going through. When I was going through, I just wised
- 35:29Speaker 4: up over time and started listening to the people who's
- 35:32Speaker 4: really trying to help me right, because they really were,
- 35:34Speaker 4: and they were people that I wouldn't expect, you know
- 35:36Speaker 4: what I'm saying. There were people that was reaching out
- 35:38Speaker 4: having these conversations, but I took key and I was
- 35:41Speaker 4: just like, Okay, tell me about that. And you gotta
- 35:44Speaker 4: stay curious, you know, you got to ask the questions.
- 35:46Speaker 4: And then when you start seeing what's happening around you,
- 35:48Speaker 4: it goes back to the streets. Like I knew what
- 35:50Speaker 4: not to do based off of how I saw these
- 35:52Speaker 4: people getting into trouble. So I'm like, I don't want
- 35:54Speaker 4: to do that. I ain't the jail type. I'm gonna
- 35:56Speaker 4: tell you right now. I can't see sitting nowhere and
- 35:59Speaker 4: not being PRODUCTI so I don't want to even put
- 36:01Speaker 4: myself in a position like that without me having to
- 36:03Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But I don't regret anything.
- 36:06Speaker 4: I don't regret my hard times. I don't regret my lows.
- 36:09Speaker 4: I don't regret my highs. I don't regret my run ins.
- 36:12Speaker 4: I don't regret anything because it all taught me a lesson.
- 36:14Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And I stand that now
- 36:16Speaker 4: and I can say that whole hardly. So when somebody
- 36:18Speaker 4: comes and talk to me, I can say, bro look,
- 36:21Speaker 4: I can't tell you what to do, but I'm gonna
- 36:23Speaker 4: gonna tell you, like, I don't know how that's gonna
- 36:24Speaker 4: work out, because this is what happened over here.
- 36:27Speaker 1: This is what I've seen happen with this person. Now,
- 36:29Speaker 1: you could take.
- 36:29Speaker 4: That data and that information, you could do whatever you
- 36:31Speaker 4: want with it, but I can assure you that if
- 36:33Speaker 4: you do that, there's gonna be some type of consequence.
- 36:36Speaker 5: So when you when you go on a journey like this,
- 36:38Speaker 5: you know, for your your twenty years of thug motivation
- 36:41Speaker 5: one on one, does it make you like does it
- 36:43Speaker 5: make you reach out to like older people you came
- 36:45Speaker 5: up with? Like have you spoken to Big Meat?
- 36:48Speaker 1: Yes? Solid? Solid? Okay, Yeah, everybody's solid.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Bro.
- 36:50Speaker 1: I'm just peace. Man. My hom's love. You know what
- 36:53Speaker 1: I'm saying.
- 36:53Speaker 4: For me, it's you know, I'm like I said, man,
- 36:56Speaker 4: it's all good me bro, you know what I'm saying?
- 36:58Speaker 1: All good?
- 37:00Speaker 5: What's the deep album cut that you really enjoy performing
- 37:04Speaker 5: off Doug Motivation on one?
- 37:06Speaker 4: Man? I mean listen, bro, I can't get past intro,
- 37:09Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you gotta you gotta
- 37:13Speaker 4: wait till you hear this with the with the Symphony.
- 37:16Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying with the symphony, and I
- 37:18Speaker 4: need everybody know I'm coming through your city. I'm coming
- 37:20Speaker 4: through your town. It's gonna be amazing one night only,
- 37:25Speaker 4: and you gotta pull up. And going back to your
- 37:28Speaker 4: other question about me reaching back out, I think it's
- 37:31Speaker 4: more important for me to reach forward. So shout out
- 37:34Speaker 4: the LISK who I just partner with for my nonprofit space,
- 37:38Speaker 4: and shout out to the Urban League of Atlanta, who
- 37:43Speaker 4: I reached out with for my Young CEO program.
- 37:46Speaker 2: Because it's like, what is list I know you do
- 37:48Speaker 2: that with the Screen Dreams Foundation.
- 37:49Speaker 1: Yeah, list is is. So we got to two things
- 37:52Speaker 1: going right now.
- 37:53Speaker 4: We definitely got the prostate cancer campaign going on because
- 37:56Speaker 4: I had a couple of friends that go through that,
- 37:57Speaker 4: so we were locked in there. But it's definitely fun entrepreneurs,
- 38:00Speaker 4: young entrepreneurs, you know tech spaces, just you have it
- 38:05Speaker 4: like we're showing them how to set up their lives
- 38:08Speaker 4: so that they can win.
- 38:10Speaker 1: And the same thing with the Urban League of Atlanta.
- 38:13Speaker 4: Same thing. We got the Young CEO program. You can
- 38:15Speaker 4: go on my Instagram check it out. You know, anybody
- 38:18Speaker 4: from the ages, what's the agent seventeen to twenty four,
- 38:24Speaker 4: and we set it up. We're putting them with mentors
- 38:26Speaker 4: all that. And by the way, like this is who
- 38:29Speaker 4: I am. Like I love this. And somebody asked me,
- 38:31Speaker 4: how do you do both? They're all the same, you
- 38:34Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. We still motivating. It's all the
- 38:36Speaker 4: same to me. You know, It's just we get to
- 38:38Speaker 4: jump on the stage, but then we get to go
- 38:39Speaker 4: help some people prostate against We get to jump on
- 38:42Speaker 4: the stage and we get to go help mentor some kids.
- 38:44Speaker 1: You know, I love it.
- 38:45Speaker 5: And you're saving people, you know, and people can live
- 38:47Speaker 5: a much longer life if they just go.
- 38:49Speaker 4: And I know I said this last time, but I
- 38:51Speaker 4: got to say it again because you saved me.
- 38:54Speaker 1: Brother.
- 38:55Speaker 4: Shout out to Charlemagne for my New York Time best
- 38:57Speaker 4: selling book Adversity for Sale, because I ran into a
- 39:02Speaker 4: situation where I had an issue with a publishing company
- 39:04Speaker 4: and I called Charlemagne, like who published your book? And
- 39:07Speaker 4: he put me with somebody and we went on to
- 39:09Speaker 4: sell a New York Times bestseller.
- 39:12Speaker 1: Yeah, so thank you, thank you, brother, Thank you.
- 39:13Speaker 2: For all the years of motivation with the music.
- 39:16Speaker 5: My last question, if you could go back and tell
- 39:18Speaker 5: two thousand and five GZ one thing before TM one
- 39:21Speaker 5: on one drop, what would it be?
- 39:24Speaker 1: Go harder?
- 39:25Speaker 4: Because I was a little reluctant because you know, I
- 39:30Speaker 4: was scared of failure, you know what I mean, because
- 39:33Speaker 4: I had so much on the line.
- 39:35Speaker 1: So it was like real pressure. You know, it ain't nothing.
- 39:37Speaker 4: Like everybody looking at you like a way out, you
- 39:42Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. That pressure is on your shoulder,
- 39:44Speaker 4: But then you're also looking at yourself like if because
- 39:48Speaker 4: it's different if a record labels inquiring you and you
- 39:51Speaker 4: hide in the streets and on your like they're they're
- 39:54Speaker 4: pushing this issue like this is your money, this is
- 39:57Speaker 4: your time, this is your energy. So if it doesn't work,
- 40:00Speaker 4: you know, nine times out of ten, you don't spend all.
- 40:02Speaker 4: You don't spend all your bread and now you got
- 40:04Speaker 4: to figure something else out and you don't turn your
- 40:06Speaker 4: back on everything you knew as far as like the
- 40:08Speaker 4: streets to take this chance. So I always said it
- 40:12Speaker 4: go harder because there was a lot of times where
- 40:14Speaker 4: I was like I was sitting back not being the
- 40:18Speaker 4: star that I could have been because I was having
- 40:20Speaker 4: what did it called it impostra sentially, you know, because
- 40:23Speaker 4: I was in these rooms with these guys that was
- 40:24Speaker 4: really writing and really like this is what they been
- 40:26Speaker 4: doing their whole life. And I kind of just stumbled
- 40:28Speaker 4: into this. And it wasn't until I just realized that, like,
- 40:32Speaker 4: but you but you're real though, you are who you
- 40:34Speaker 4: say you are, and you don't have to be as witty.
- 40:37Speaker 4: You can be realer. And that was my thing. So
- 40:40Speaker 4: when I was saying if it's taken too long to
- 40:41Speaker 4: lock up, I was talking to the people who knew
- 40:43Speaker 4: what I was talking about, So everybody wasn't gonna get there.
- 40:46Speaker 4: And that's the that's the that's what I had over
- 40:49Speaker 4: everybody else. I knew how to talk to the people
- 40:51Speaker 4: that mattered to me. And uh, it wasn't until I
- 40:53Speaker 4: really figured that out. It is when I was like, okay,
- 40:56Speaker 4: I could live in and like I said, it was
- 40:58Speaker 4: it was. I was three hours in before I woke
- 41:00Speaker 4: up and I was just like, I took that book
- 41:03Speaker 4: bag with all those not bricks. I'man like waiting it
- 41:08Speaker 4: because it was heavy, and I just took it off
- 41:10Speaker 4: and through it and I was like, I'm going to
- 41:11Speaker 4: be a star. I'm going to be a star man,
- 41:14Speaker 4: you know. So thug motivation to me was a blur
- 41:17Speaker 4: because it was like it could have happened, it might
- 41:20Speaker 4: not happened, But everything I went through I'm grateful for
- 41:26Speaker 4: even right now to this day, because there's nothing that
- 41:28Speaker 4: I go up against that I don't go what would
- 41:31Speaker 4: I done in two thousand and five?
- 41:34Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? How would I worked around this?
- 41:36Speaker 4: And I love it because when people put me into
- 41:38Speaker 4: you know, like if I get in situations with business
- 41:40Speaker 4: and then I called back and I called my team
- 41:42Speaker 4: the next thing and be like, Yo, we're gonna do this,
- 41:44Speaker 4: they'd be like, oh, man.
- 41:45Speaker 1: I knew it. We got them. You know what I'm saying,
- 41:47Speaker 1: because they tried to box me in. I figured it out.
- 41:50Speaker 5: So yeah, answer in a lot of ways just towards
- 41:52Speaker 5: like you being able to relive that time but actually
- 41:56Speaker 5: enjoy the moment.
- 41:56Speaker 4: Enjoy the moment, man, And I want people to enjoy
- 41:59Speaker 4: with me. And I'm gonna say this, like this is
- 42:02Speaker 4: for us. You know, put your put your black suit on,
- 42:05Speaker 4: if you don't got a bow tie, put your black
- 42:07Speaker 4: dress on. Let's have a good time. Let's celebrate. Let's
- 42:10Speaker 4: celebrate you know, evolution, Let's celebrate life. Let's celebrate our wins,
- 42:14Speaker 4: our losses and everything like, let's have a good time
- 42:16Speaker 4: because I don't want to keep coming and we're doing
- 42:18Speaker 4: like you know, you could do a show, but I
- 42:20Speaker 4: want an experience. You know what I'm saying. I want
- 42:22Speaker 4: you to see what I'm trying to say. And again,
- 42:24Speaker 4: this is a party. This is not uh, you know,
- 42:27Speaker 4: you just come and sitting down. You know, this is
- 42:30Speaker 4: not the opera. Shout out to the opera. But it's
- 42:31Speaker 4: not the opera, gotch.
- 42:33Speaker 1: We appreciate you for joining us. I appreciate you guys.
- 42:36Speaker 2: Tickets.
- 42:36Speaker 4: Oh you go to gez It's TM one on one
- 42:40Speaker 4: live te dot com.
- 42:43Speaker 3: Sir, we appreciate you for joining us. Let's definitely pulling.
- 42:47Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I want to say this before I leave.
- 42:48Speaker 4: New York is gonna be lit because I'm actually officially
- 42:51Speaker 4: closing down the Apollo. I'm doing the last show there
- 42:54Speaker 4: until they do the renovation, so they're gonna sit down
- 42:56Speaker 4: for the rest of the year. So I will be
- 42:58Speaker 4: having an official last show with them. It's gonna be crazy.
- 43:02Speaker 4: Look on the website to find out when I'm coming
- 43:04Speaker 4: through your city. Shout out to the Breakfast Club shout
- 43:06Speaker 4: out to you out.
- 43:07Speaker 1: Yeah, well there you have it. Yes, sir, it's jeezy.
- 43:10Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
- 43:13Speaker 2: in the morning.
- 43:13Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club