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Pathological Liars, Sex and Real Housewives with Brandy and Julie · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 1: for it?
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  Speaker 2: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
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  Speaker 2: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else. You
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  Speaker 2: have to put me in touch.
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  Speaker 1: What's it called? It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 2: Where? Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 1: There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 3: Lift?
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  Speaker 2: Please. Are you going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 4: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop is the show to know.
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  Speaker 5: She talks Hollywood tales for real life.
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  Speaker 2: Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Sake and Serial Data and Serial Sister.
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  Speaker 2: You'll be addicted and addicted.
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  Speaker 1: Fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in,
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  Speaker 1: listen up. Woo woo. Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have our girls back.
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  Speaker 2: They are alive and well. Brandi and Julie, welcome back
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: to Juicy Scoop. Happy New Year.
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  Speaker 5: Happy New Year.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God. It's been a while.
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  Speaker 2: In a nutshell, you loved your trip to Antarctica, right?
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  Speaker 5: We loved it. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It really was.
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  Speaker 5: It was absolutely incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing bad happened.
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  Speaker 1: We kicked it off with your party. which we had
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  Speaker 1: a great time at your party. I mean, I understand
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  Speaker 1: it's old news, but that was, I had a better
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  Speaker 1: time this year than last year. Last year was really fun.
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  Speaker 1: Did you like it this year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it. I think it's just great. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what I'll do next year.
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  Speaker 2: Might not have anything at all.
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  Speaker 1: Just kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Um, but yeah, so you guys made it. The flights
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  Speaker 2: were okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the, the flights were long. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The flights were long. That was the hardest part of
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  Speaker 5: the trip. Um, I got seasick twice. Uh, But it
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  Speaker 5: wasn't the end of the world and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: Like a seasick puke?
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  Speaker 1: Or just like, I gotta lay down.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely laying down. Having to lay down in the room
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  Speaker 5: where other people were. Not being able to, needing a
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  Speaker 5: minute because I couldn't really walk back to the room.
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  Speaker 5: So that was embarrassing. Other than that, it was great. Penguins,
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  Speaker 5: close up. Close up penguins.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see any gay penguins at Stealing a Female Egg?
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  Speaker 2: To raise.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we definitely saw some gay penguins stealing. They steal
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  Speaker 5: the rocks from their nests. We did watch that.
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  Speaker 1: We did watch that.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, we have so many juicy topics. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: did you feel the earthquake?
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  Speaker 1: I did not feel it.
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  Speaker 5: Did you?
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  Speaker 2: Did I?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm extremely sensitive to earthquakes. I'm like a dog.
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  Speaker 2: So being that I've been born and raised in L.A.,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sort of an earthquake expert as far as my body.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there was a time, one time when I
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  Speaker 2: was at Chelsea lately, that I felt it before everybody else.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: And I, like, jumped to the doorway. And then they
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  Speaker 2: did a big joke that I, like, didn't care about anybody,
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  Speaker 2: that I literally, like.
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  Speaker 5: Pushed people out of the way?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to get to the doorway.
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  Speaker 5: You're like an earthquake psychic.
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  Speaker 2: So last night, and every night I'd And some nights
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  Speaker 2: I forget to do this, but last night I said,
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  Speaker 2: please no earthquakes. And we had one. So now, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: my prayers are not being answered.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Because it has always worked. In the past, if there
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  Speaker 2: was an earthquake, I'd think, you know what? I forgot
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  Speaker 2: to say that prayer last night. So we had an earthquake.
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  Speaker 2: I looked it up. First, I thought it was in
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  Speaker 2: Sherman Oaks, but it was an old report. It was 4.2,
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  Speaker 2: 11 miles from Malibu.
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  Speaker 3: And....
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  Speaker 1: And so I did a.
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  Speaker 2: Story, because I'm a thirsty bitch, and I wanted everyone
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  Speaker 2: to know I'm that L.A. girl. I'm your earthquake girl.
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  Speaker 2: And then we had a little aftershock, and I screamed
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  Speaker 2: on it, so people got to see what it's really like. Oh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And for people that are not familiar with earthquakes, always
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  Speaker 2: keep a pair of tennis shoes under your bed.
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  Speaker 1: No problem. If there's an earthquake situation... Then.
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  Speaker 2: You can put those shoes on and it's because there
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  Speaker 2: could be broken glass. So if you have any type
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  Speaker 2: of shoes, any type of shoes, but you need a
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  Speaker 2: pair of shoes. And also then it really gets bad
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  Speaker 2: because when you don't know about an earthquake, the thing
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  Speaker 2: is it starts and it could get bigger, get louder.
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  Speaker 2: And I lived through the 94 earthquake. And which the
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  Speaker 2: joke in L.A. at the time was that's when everyone
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  Speaker 2: met their neighbors. You could have been living next to
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  Speaker 2: someone for 20 years. You did not know anybody because
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  Speaker 2: no one knows you. You lay, now you don't go
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  Speaker 2: to the hallway and you don't run out of the
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  Speaker 2: house if it gets really, really bad. You lay down
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  Speaker 2: next to your bed and they call it the triangle
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  Speaker 2: of life. So if for some reason it was so
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  Speaker 2: bad that like a dresser fell or your roof fell,
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  Speaker 2: there would be, it would fall on the bed like
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  Speaker 2: this and you would be in between in the triangle
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  Speaker 2: of life. So that's what you do when it's really bad.
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  Speaker 1: We used to go in the door jam.
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  Speaker 5: That's good information.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do the jargon.
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  Speaker 1: That's a wrap on that.
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  Speaker 5: So there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully everybody was fine. So do you.
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  Speaker 1: Not have house shoes or like any kind of slippers
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  Speaker 1: next to your bed? Do you walk to your bed?
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  Speaker 1: Do you walk around in those?
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  Speaker 2: Well, actually my tennis shoes were by my bed last night,
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  Speaker 2: but I used to keep a pair under there. And
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  Speaker 2: then I think, whatever, somewhere along the line I stopped.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm saying everyone should just have, you know, or
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  Speaker 2: even if you want to... If you really want to
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  Speaker 2: be careful, like sweats, if you sleep naked or skimpily,
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  Speaker 2: like sweats and a sweatshirt if you just have to
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  Speaker 2: get out of the house and, you know. Yeah. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I'd say and tell your kids. Okay, Paris Hilton
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  Speaker 2: has a baby.
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  Speaker 1: Slow clap.
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  Speaker 5: He did it.
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  Speaker 1: He did it. He got it.
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  Speaker 2: It appears that it's a boy. She had it through
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  Speaker 2: a surrogate. Of course, we don't know the name. Probably
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  Speaker 2: won't know for 12 to 17 years.
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  Speaker 5: Probably going to be Carter Jr.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll name it Wolf and then change the name to.
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  Speaker 5: Lion.
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  Speaker 1: Eye-er, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Air.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, air.
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  Speaker 2: And she said she always wanted an older brother, so
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  Speaker 2: that's why she chose to have the boy first. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure she'll have several kids.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he's thrilled.
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  Speaker 1: Did she choose to have the boy first? Because she
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  Speaker 1: wanted twins, and I would assume... Like, I kept thinking, like,
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  Speaker 1: within vitro, there's a high chance of multiples, and she
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  Speaker 1: said she wanted twins. So I just assumed this one
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  Speaker 1: baby was the only... one that made it per se.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Do you really think she wanted twins? I feel like
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  Speaker 2: now with in vitro and stuff, it used to be
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  Speaker 2: put a lot in and hope that at least one last.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Peter's cousin is an infertility doctor, Dr. Richard Paulson. And
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  Speaker 2: at Thanksgiving, I was asking him all about it and
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  Speaker 2: he said they don't do that anymore. They really just
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  Speaker 2: try to put in one that's really good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
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  Speaker 2: Because there's always a risk even with twins. So I
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  Speaker 2: think they just put in They put in the boy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I was, cause she did go around saying she wanted twins.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, Oh, I mean, it's such a
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  Speaker 2: little girl thing to say.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if someone else is having it, I'll go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and take twins.
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  Speaker 5: I'd love that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So good for her. Who cares? All right. Listen,
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  Speaker 2: you saw the outfit. Okay. So this was, this crazy
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  Speaker 2: is that Kylie was wearing the big lion head and
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  Speaker 2: everyone thought, Oh my God, this is all. Well, she
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  Speaker 2: went to a whole fashion show in which the fashions
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  Speaker 2: were lion heads, wolf heads, realistic heads on your dresses.
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  Speaker 2: So I saw this, and I don't think she was
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  Speaker 2: made aware when she agreed to wear this lion head
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  Speaker 2: of the designer that this other girl, Erna.
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  Speaker 1: Irina.
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  Speaker 2: Irina. What's her last name? Shake. Who's this gorgeous model
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  Speaker 2: who has her hair pulled back just like Kylie. wearing
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  Speaker 2: the same dress, does the fashion show. And I saw
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  Speaker 2: a clip of it. And you can see Kylie's face
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  Speaker 2: when she sees her coming down. It's hilarious. She did
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  Speaker 2: not know. And I want to say, I would be
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  Speaker 2: pissed if I was Kylie. If I agreed to do
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  Speaker 2: this thing to get you the kind of press, I
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  Speaker 2: would have thought it would have been.
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  Speaker 1: Don't put it in the fashion show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to see the exact top model where
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  Speaker 2: the thing go past me. This is so... Screwed.
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  Speaker 5: I want to point something out. So put back the
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  Speaker 5: picture of the model.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Now notice how that model even, okay, see how the
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  Speaker 5: lion's mouth is open?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Now go back to Kylie. Now even the lion's pissed.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: The lion's pissed. The lion's mouth was not open.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 2: So at least it wasn't the exact same dress. I
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  Speaker 2: guess you could order the dress. Open mouth.
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  Speaker 5: Or closed mouth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking open mouth, no? All that kind of matters.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine going out to dinner, going to Craig's, and you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to drive with the lion.
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  Speaker 1: No, all of it.
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  Speaker 5: Now we're going to have... My mind was swirling with
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  Speaker 5: questions when I saw this. First of all, are they
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  Speaker 5: stuffed animal heads? Are they taxidermy heads? What kind of
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  Speaker 5: heads are we dealing with?
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  Speaker 2: They're man-made. They're not any real lions or tigers or bears.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they look good then. The person who makes them
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  Speaker 5: is good.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the models look... Kylie's, to me, with
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  Speaker 1: the mouth closed, did look very teddy bear-ish. Not in
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: this picture, but in a different picture where she's on
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  Speaker 1: the steps. Whereas to me, that looks better to me.
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  Speaker 5: That looks very real.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, no one's going.
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  Speaker 2: To buy these. This was a way to get press
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  Speaker 2: to the line.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to go to where? You're going to go
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  Speaker 5: to the play? Are you going to go to play
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  Speaker 5: with that? Are you going to go to even out to...
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  Speaker 5: I imagine sitting next to someone anywhere and just be like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I can't. Can I move the head for
• 9:24
  Speaker 5: a minute? I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or it gets hair all over the other person
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  Speaker 1: where it's like, excuse me.
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  Speaker 5: It's just, I can't, or what if, there's so many,
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  Speaker 5: now we're gonna see all different heads. We're gonna see this,
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  Speaker 5: if you were to predict, would you not say, now
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  Speaker 5: in the next year we're gonna see all different heads?
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  Speaker 2: No. You don't think so? I absolutely think people are
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  Speaker 2: not going to be down for wearing it in real life,
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  Speaker 2: any version of it. I really don't.
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  Speaker 5: What about mocking of it? Are people going to put
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  Speaker 5: full babies on hats?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Are they going to put whole other bodies on?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look behind. What is that, balls? Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: What is that lady wearing?
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  Speaker 1: Is that like a titty mask?
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  Speaker 2: She had to wear this big head thing over her.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's a show and then you
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  Speaker 2: go and look at the actual black dresses and buy
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  Speaker 2: one of those.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I think it's good for like the Met Gala.
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  Speaker 1: I think it would have been good for like Lady Gaga.
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  Speaker 2: In the day. Yeah, costume.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So then she went out and wore this noose necklace,
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  Speaker 2: Kylie did, and they said wearing this two years after
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  Speaker 2: when the stylist knows how people felt about it is
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  Speaker 2: a choice, is what this one Twitter person say, gildafilth.
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  Speaker 2: So it is a silver necklace, it's Givenchy, and it's
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  Speaker 2: a noose that doesn't connect.
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  Speaker 5: So people were mad about that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what she wore the next day after
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  Speaker 2: she saw the model wearing her lion head.
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  Speaker 1: Why is anyone mad about it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's a noose?
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it. I'm super down for the
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  Speaker 1: Givenchy noose looks. What I'm thinking is she put her
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  Speaker 1: head and you just slick her hair back and go, bitch,
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  Speaker 1: I can wear my hair back too to arena shake.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: She's like, no, no, I can do a hair back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's cool.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's cool too.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, go get your new necklace.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, go kill yourself. That's what she's basically saying.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: Kate Hudson has active wear that completely has full ass
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  Speaker 2: cutouts of leggings and thigh cutouts.
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  Speaker 1: Is that her ass?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even a good ass. It's like.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 5: I don't understand her.
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  Speaker 1: It's making me feel better about my own ass.
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: I know that.
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  Speaker 2: It's called Spotlight Shaping Ass Out Capris.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: So maybe this is shape.
• 11:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's like a thong.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: You wear it under there.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe you're supposed to wear it under.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so here for that.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not even like popping. Okay, I've seen shapewear
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  Speaker 2: that keeps ass out so someone could touch your ass
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  Speaker 2: and not feel like a Spanx. But it usually comes
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  Speaker 2: right under your cheek to kind of lift it. And
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  Speaker 2: this doesn't show it.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: I need a lift. And so does that person. And
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  Speaker 1: I say that with all due.
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  Speaker 5: But why the thigh?
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  Speaker 4: Hole.
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  Speaker 1: I want the lift one, Heather. Where's the lift one
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  Speaker 1: that you know about? Can you send the front one
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  Speaker 1: to me? I can hold a whole box of pencils
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  Speaker 1: under my ass cheeks. Like, I need the lift one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I've gone ad nauseum that
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a good ass and I don't care
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  Speaker 2: and I'm really happy that it's going out of style.
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  Speaker 2: So here it is here.
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  Speaker 1: That's just a bad angle, too. Why are they doing
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  Speaker 1: her dirty?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: It's awful. It's really bad. It's like a.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, like, It's just, ew. It's just not water.
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  Speaker 2: I guess not good asses are in now, so that's
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  Speaker 2: good for me.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 5: But everything about this, the side, why cut out the
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  Speaker 5: sides for that part of your thigh to show? Plus
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: the worst part of your thighs now are showing.
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  Speaker 2: Also, she's a nepo baby, Kate Hudson, and she, like
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  Speaker 2: with them all, are really getting pissed that this is
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  Speaker 2: a conversation. They're really defending themselves. And this doesn't help
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: your cause, Kate. That you're a fashion designer as well
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  Speaker 2: as being an actress? Like, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: Now, also the waistband there, that's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: flattering on anyone. You know what I mean? You need
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: a thicker waistband, like a Lululemon type of top. Not
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  Speaker 1: a skinny... Fat's going to go, you know, whatever. Your
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: skin's going to go over. It's not smoothing. It can't
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: be shapewear. I think it must be workout wear.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that looks like a street hooker's outfit. I mean,
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: no judgment.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know.
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  Speaker 2: No judgment.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Bring back street hookers.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're that odd.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: I know it's sad that they're gone.
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: They're gone.
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  Speaker 2: They're gone. So they can come back and wear Kate
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  Speaker 2: Hudson street wear.
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. Kate Hudson street wear.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me go back to that. Okay, I have
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: some fun for.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: You being the guest of.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: You are the stars of a show called Dumb Gay Politics.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: And I absolutely am here to talk about this. And
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: this is not a Republican Democrat thing. It's a Anna
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Delvey lying crazy story.
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: But he is Republican.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: But he is Republican.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: And no one's trying to get him fired. Right. Except Democrats.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: So his name.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Is George Santos. He's a 34-year-old Republican who is an
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: out gay man. And he represents New York's wealthiest congressional district.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: He was voted in.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I don't know, and maybe you guys do, who
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: went down the deep dive and found... Because we have,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I listed them all, the 20 lies. So how many
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: lies there are, but I'm going to go through them
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: quickly because I was like, I literally had Annie work
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: on it because I was like, there's so many. I
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: don't even know where to begin. There's like a 9-11
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: lie and a drag queen lie. I'm like, what is it?
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: These are all the things.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: He, I mean, very Anna Delvey, very, I want to
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: just say right now, I highly predict that he will
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: be on like a weird, like special forces. That's a
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: new reality show that Dr. Drew was on where they're like,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: try to be Navy SEALs or he'll be on like
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: a big brother. He really should be on a big brother.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: He would go on dancing with the stars for sure.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: And just a lot like, and just, or like, like
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: do a TV show called Imposters and you really get
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: all the best imposters to come on and then who's
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: the mole or the traitors or whatever. Okay.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, he even, he topped Anna Delvey.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me just go through it.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: He said his mother died as a result of 9-11.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: That inhalation and debris killed her years later of cancer.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: But actually, she was in Brazil the day of the attacks.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Smoking cigarettes.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: He graduated from Baruch College.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Baruch.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Baruch College. with degrees in economic and finance in 2010,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: but he never even attended there. He also said he
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: went to high school in the Bronx for the first
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: few years of school and then had to leave due
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: to the crash of 2008 and being hard on his parents.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Not true. Goldman Sachs and Citigroup, representatives for both companies,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: he said he was representative for both companies, told the Times,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: but they had no record of his employment. While he
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: was at that Baruch College, he was on the volleyball team.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: He attended Baruch. by getting a volleyball scholarship.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: With Keith Raniere.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Right, with Keith Raniere. They were just on volleyball together.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: From NXIVM.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: He was in NXIVM. He was part of.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: The team that slayed Yale and Harvard. However, not only
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: was he not there and not on the team, but
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the team didn't even play Yale.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: No one ever slayed Yale or Harvard.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Until this, I didn't know Yale had such a incredible
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: volleyball team and a volleyball squad that Yale is known for.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: With rivalries with Baruch College. So he talked about a
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: match that didn't even happen even though he wasn't there
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: or on the team. He could have played basketball but
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: went with volleyball because it was easier. So I mean
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: he's just like an incredible athlete. He sacrificed both his
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: knees and he got very nice knee replacements from playing
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: volleyball because that's how serious He took the.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Game, but we know now. Well, that's when we know
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: he's lying, because nobody gets a nice knee replacement.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Nope. Nope.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: I can tell you firsthand, I have a knee replacement,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: and it's a living hell.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: They're always horrific. He's a liar. It doesn't exist. Nope.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: They're horrendous.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: That's probably what tipped off the New York Times, Heather,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: who's the person who.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: That's the biggest of lies.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: They were like, wait, what?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you're right.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: He said he had.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: A nice knee replacement?
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: This guy's like, gotta be a liar.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: He was charged with fraud by Brazilian prosecutors for stealing
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the checkbook of a man his mother was working for
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: and then spending nearly $ 700 using a stolen checkbook and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a fake name. So that did happen. He admitted to
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: it in 2009, 2010, but then he moved to the U.S.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: and started ignoring it. He changed his name to Anthony DeVolder,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the middle name he was going by as recently as 2019.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: He was mugged when attempting to deliver a check. for
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: back rent owned to his queen's landlord, but there's no
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: record of this mugging. His campaign spent exactly $ 199 on
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: 37 different campaign expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: which incidentally is exactly one cent below the dollar threshold above. So,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: you know, that's shady. He raised money on a GoFundMe,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: who doesn't, for a veteran's dying dog. And then.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And the funds were raised, but then it allegedly disappeared
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: with the money. And the dog ended up dying anyway
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: in 2017. So he kept the money. He claimed that
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: he had lost four employees in the Pulse nightclub shooting.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Not true.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I hadn't heard that one.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: There's so many. A staffer working for his election would
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: call rich donors and pretend to be representing Kevin McCarthy's
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: chief of staff to raise money. So impersonating someone else,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: endorsing him, I guess, to get money. Santos' campaign bio
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: claimed that he ran a foundation called Friends of Pets United,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: saving 2,500 dogs and cats. But there was no social
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: media accounts for the organization, no IRS records, no evidence
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: of the charity being registered.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: God.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Said he was Jewish.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Said he was Jewish.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait, I'm getting to it. Hold on. He did
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: become the first openly gay, non-incumbent Republican elected to Congress.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: You know what would be great is if we found
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: out that He never really was gay, but we know
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: he's gay. His campaign bio discussed that his husband, whom
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: he lives in Long Island along with his four dogs,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: but Santos never appeared on the campaign trail with his partner,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and the Daily Beast could not find a marriage record
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: in New York. So he says he has a husband,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: but there's no marriage of the husband. But before his
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: divorce to a woman was finalized, he had sent out
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the Facebook invites to the engagement dinner for the mystery
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: husband who he may never have been married to. Right.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: Your home changes over time. The kitchen gets louder, the
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• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: filed against me.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: what would you do if it was given back?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: home dad.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: What happens next?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: When I came in, he started crying.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: happens next.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You're worth the work.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it shakes.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: He claimed his grandparents survived the Holocaust.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Defending this by saying, well, a lot of people's names
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: were changed and records lost their time, so whatever.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't have, everyone who got murdered in the Holocaust,
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: and the whole thing with the Germans during that time
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: is the incredible amount of records that they kept.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know if anyone knows this.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Well, my grandparents died in the Holocaust, too.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: That's like a major thing. Mine did, too.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: And the level of bookkeeping they had was never to
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: be ever to be done again. So yeah, they lost those.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: They lost those.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Also, he said he was Jewish, but people knew him
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: to go to Catholic Mass regularly. A drag queen in
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Brazil says that Santos used to do drag himself in
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Brazil as well. And his friend said that he was
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: striving to become Miss Gay Rio de Janeiro and that
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: he was regularly participating in drag pageants. Well... This is
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: exciting because yesterday he was stopped at the airport, or recently,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: and he did say, yes, I've done drag.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: He said that, right, that wasn't the thing he tries
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: to use.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Which he should because he's claiming to be gay.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: And there's pictures of it, so he can't deny it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: So he's not denying being gay. He's just adding so
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: many other fantastical things to his life to give him cred.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: He tried to say that he didn't perform in drag.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: So before they put the pictures out, And they're like,
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: we heard you in drag. And he's like, I don't
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: know what you're talking about. I didn't see a drag.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: And then they're like, okay. Or I didn't perform in drag.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Pictures come out. And then he tries to sort of
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: dance around the shell game of the words that he uses.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: I didn't perform in drag. But yeah, maybe I've dressed
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: in drag. So he's trying to.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: So he's not a drag queen. It's kind of like
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: saying someone's a porn star. It's like, they're not really
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: a star. They're just an adult actress or actor.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: So he's trying to like dance around all these lines.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'm almost done. He said he was on Hannah Montana
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: and the Suite Life of Cody on the Disney shows.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I guess like a child actor. Anyway, he wasn't. Santos
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Bio states that he was that he hit the big
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: screen with a role in a movie called The Invasion
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: starring Uma Thurman, even though Thurman never appeared in the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: movie under that name. So I think what's. What's amazing are, like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the fantastical lies, the talented Mr. Ripley, the Anna Delvey's.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: It's like there's compulsive liars, habitual liars. It's like when
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you're a compulsive liar.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: It's pathological lying.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he's probably pathological and compulsive, but it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: like it's a compulsion. There's no reason to even lie,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: not even just to get attention, and he'll do it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: But the one thing that they all do is when
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: they get caught, they get cancer. So I give them.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: About 10 business days.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, to get cancer.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, good point, yeah. Because he will immediately get cancer.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Well, the Casey Anthony, infamous Casey Anthony, she was a
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: pathological liar too, that whether you want to believe that
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: latest documentary or not, that she didn't do it and
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the dad did it, whatever, and that he took the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: child to Pinocchio to get fixed for 31 days and
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: said he was fine, whatever, that weird story. But she
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: would make up lies, they're unnecessarily lies. That's when you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: know you're dealing... There's one thing for someone to lie
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: because they're cheating on his wife or whatever. And they're like, no,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I was out with the guys. Okay, there's that. Then
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: there's one where somebody's just making up weird lies. I
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: was at the Groundlings with this one girl. And she's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: like the only person in the history of Groundlings that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: they said, you got to leave because you're a psycho.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: And I tried to tell everybody. And once again, I
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: hate that I'm always right, but I am. I tried
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to tell everybody. And they were like, you're a jealous bitch, Heather.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: And they ended up graduating her to the main company
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and said no because and said and kicked like eight
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: of us out. And they all thought it was awful
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: because we were trying to warn people that she was
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: a psycho, that she was a pathological. This girl was
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: not fit or anything. And she would tell me like
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I was in the Olympics for swimming.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, it's such a weird lie. Like there's no,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: you're in the ground. He's like, we don't need you
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to be physically fit. You're not going to a swimming party.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Why are you saying that you were like an Olympic swimmer?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: But you know what?
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: One weird lie that I do sometimes for like a
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: half a second. And I'll just like, someone will be like,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: do you golf? You know, cause my kids golf. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I go, yeah, I was on the USC golfing team.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: And they're like, oh my God, that's amazing. And I
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: go a little bit and, Because it's so long ago,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and because I'm like, why would I make that up?
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: But that's what these people do. They just make up
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: like a fantastical lie.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It's like Casey Anthony can lie and pretend she still
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: has her job, and that makes sense. Go drive there.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Be in your car. But they lie in casual conversation,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: not even just to get attention, not even just to
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: pretend they have money.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: They have antiquities or they were a good athlete. They'll
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: literally just lie about that they got a full tank
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: of gas that morning and they saw it was $ 10
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: a gallon.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Like weird shit.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: George Santos particularly, somebody who when you look at him
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: and he speaks like not for nothing, I'm gay so
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: I'm going to say this.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: He sounds gay.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: The guy sounds gay.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Also, could he be Jewish? I don't know. But this
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: is if I looked you.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: In the eye. Right.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: And I was like, I love guys.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, I love dating men, and just wouldn't stop. No,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: I'm totally straight. I'm so straight.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: We do see that a lot, though. And it's... We
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: do see a lot with lesbians.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: That look like this?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Lesbians that try to present themselves as a.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: That'll act like they're not gay, and it's like, no,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you're definitely gay.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Don't we see that all the time?
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, especially, but then there's like the
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Kristen Stewart type.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Right, but no, I mean more like.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: You mean someone looks like me?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Like a Leslie... Jones type.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Is she out? Can we look if Leslie Jones is out?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I just saw that her stand-up is out. She's talking
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: about sex. Now, she could be completely out. I had
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: never heard she was out. But, I mean, to me,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that's an example. With all due, I'm sure Leslie Jones
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: is listening. She's not gay. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Queen Latifah. And maybe she's not gay.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Queen Latifah would talk about, you know, how loving the dick,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: loving the dick.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, but then she had this long
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: term girlfriend trainer, personal trainer.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: And which I believe. And this is how I recall
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the story. She, you know, put her on the title
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of the house because when you find someone that can
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: really get you to do some squats, you put them
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: on the title of your home.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Especially when they can go down on you like a
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: champ for two hours straight.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And here she had a talk show, and the talk
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: show was like, I'm going to tell it all. I'm
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: keeping it real. And she never talked about this, so
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the talk show didn't last. Eventually now she is out,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and good for her. And I think 10 years ago, yeah,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: it was going to be harder, or the people around you,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: or your family, or whatever. So whatever anybody wants to do.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: So the one thing that he was honest about in
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the end was, was that he liked the D and
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: he was gay. And I bet there's, I bet, I mean,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: just like anything else, and just like the talented Mr. Ripley,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: which is a great Juicy Scoop movie, you know, whatever
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it is, you want to be part of a group,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: you want to be part of a society, and he
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: just took it to the point where he actually got elected.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: It's incredible.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: It's incredible.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I just think it's crazy in this day and age.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: where you can Google anything, anytime, get any record. So
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I have to say props to him. That's what I'm saying,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: new show. Imposters, the reality show. And you put these
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: people that, and maybe just like traders, they're mixed with
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: some regular people that are like, hi, my name is
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Kelly Johnson, and I moved from Texas to Florida and
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I got there and I pretended to be a socialite
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and even got engaged to this guy until it was
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: all found out. Well, now I'm going to show people.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: How well I lie.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: How good is that?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. All I ask is that you consider me
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: as the host. But I say this is I want
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: to explore people. Yeah. that are excellent liars that create
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: crazy stories and that are so convincing in telling them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: And then not only is he lying and getting the job,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: we now know you lied.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: And you're not getting fired. Nope.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: That's what's amazing. If we found out Annie lied about
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: every single thing on her resume, she wasn't from Texas,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you be like, you gotta go. Like, who are you?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Well, fortunately, every show I went to, she brought... Two
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: relatives and three people from her childhood.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: So I have met. Right.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I have met a grandma. I have met a dad,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: a mom. I've met a sister. So she could be
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: lying about her brother. But I've met college roommates, high
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: school friends.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like lying about. You'd fire her.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: It would be odd.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: You'd be scared.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: It's scary.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: You'd be unsettling.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: You'd be like, this person's been in my house. They're
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: a complete fraud.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, we need to prove the brother before we
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: let Annie off, though, because this could be a deep con.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: There is a guy that calls occasionally and she says
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: it's her brother. It's probably her.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Well, that's another thing.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: That big scammer people do throughout all these types of
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: things is they do create a different email or different voices.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: And then the email will be like, act like a friend. Like,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: so I'm the scammer. And then someone writes you and
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: is like, hey, I'm Heather's, you know, really good friend
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and we want to throw a party for her. Can
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: you send us $ 3, 500?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Can you send us $ 3, 850?
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: We're getting Heather. We're renting the space. We got a cake.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a big surprise. I mean, that's
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: what they always do for money. I bet we'll find
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: out he's a huge catfisher. I mean, we already know
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: he did the fake GoFundMe.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: We already know he stole money.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: He did the GoFundMe.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: What did he steal the money from?
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, from the dog thing. $ 700, 000 from the campaign. He
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: took money from the GoFundMe.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: He didn't do the charities. He did the stolen check thing.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: He stole the checks. Like, he steals money. He's a grifter.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: So it's like, it's not like we, it's one thing.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like Todd and Julie Chrisley. They're totally grifters too.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Jen Shaw, grifter, making up fantastical stories, acting like you're
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a business person when you're just stealing. Like, right. Oh
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: my God. Oh, they, okay. Well, and when then those
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: people get out of prison, then they can also be
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: on my show. Hopefully. Yes.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I think it should be called grifters. Yeah. Grifters.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Not imposters.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, imposters is good.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Grifters maybe.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Imposters is good.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: But I think imposters is a scripted show right now.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I think it already existed. Oh, good luck to you.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I think those kind of things are stressful. I despise
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the movie Talented Mr. Ripley. I hate Catch Me If
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: You Can. I feel like anxiety the whole time.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? I like it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I can tell.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, this was interesting and nobody knows why. Justin Bieber
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: sells his entire music catalog for a whopping $ 200 million.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And I think it's strange.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It seems low.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: It seems low and it seems why. Why? Why? I
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: feel like this is something someone would do later in life.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe they need the money.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Didn't his manager, Scooter Braun, buy Taylor Swift's? I think
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: it's weird that Scooter Braun didn't. It doesn't have anything
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: to do with him. Scooter Braun bought Taylor Swift's entire catalog.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: That's why she re-recorded everything. It's definitely very bizarre. And
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like that number is low. I don't know.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Does he need money? Did he get taken by the
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: biggest grift of all? Hillsong?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Carl? Yeah, is he giving $ 200, 000 to the Hillsong?
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, he's wearing a lion head, too.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, on his chest.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: It's a tattoo.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Look at that. I don't know.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: He's had health issues and stuff, so a lot of
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the comments were like, what is this? Does this mean
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: he's over with? I don't know.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: He's going to spend all that money. I bet he's
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: going to go bankrupt soon.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just so, it's just very weird.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: So I don't understand it. It's probably a shell game
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: of sorts.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I need to talk to you about The Real Housewives
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: of Potomac. Okay.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Please do.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: The show, I want to say something in general about
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives. Okay. It's so much now women just bring
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: up rumors or stuff about each other's marriages that may
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: or may not be true. And that's the entire storyline. Like,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: just say it. And then you, you know, then they
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: say it to someone, then that person repeats it. And
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: then even if it's not true, it's an argument for
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the next 12 episodes and whatever. But with these girls,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: there is so much infidelity and crazy sex happening. So
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: let me just go down the line. Okay.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: This girl, Mia was a stripper. She doesn't deny it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: She's really pretty. She was a stripper. She married one
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: of her customers. who was, I think, married to someone
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: else at the time. Anyway, they have money because they
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: own all these chiropractic places. They have two little kids. Grifters.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: She is.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: She could be a grifter. Good one.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: She has a best friend that comes on the show
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: and they're like, does the best friend sleep with you
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: and your husband? And she says no, but she does say,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I like girls and we do, you know, mess around
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: with their kind of swingers. And she also slept with
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Cynthia Bailey, ex-husband Peter, he had a girlfriend once, and
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: she said she slept with that girl.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: That's who Sis is dating. Yeah. So someone said Sis
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: is on Potomac, and that was Peter. So that's who
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Peter is dating?
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: No.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: She said, Peter is my friend. They insinuated that she
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: was fucking Peter. She said, no, I slept with Peter's girlfriend, though.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Love that.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Love that.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: So then there's this girl, Candace. Candace has a white
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: boyfriend named Chris. This season, Giselle, who had no storyline, said,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: at the reunion, Chris came into her dressing room, made
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: her feel uncomfortable, and she thought he was flirting with her.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Another girl that was a friend that tried to get
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: on the show comes around and said, Chris talked to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: me at a party, and I think he was flirting
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: with me, too.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I thought Giselle said he closed the door, and he said,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I need to speak with you, and he shut the door,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and she goes, I don't want to just be in
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: here alone with you. It's going to look. In addition
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to him being whatever, she's like, read the room, bro.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Right. I'm just saying that when I get through the
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: theme of this, you're going to die. So Candace doesn't
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: think Chris did anything. The editors don't really think he
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: did anything. But that was another storyline. Then there's Karen,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the little Dom Karen. who is 59 and married to
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: a 79-year-old guy. And they've gotten remarried, and when she
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: acts horny, she's like, ooh, I gotta call Ray. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: everyone's like, yeah, right. Giselle and Robin came on my
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: live show when I was in D.C., God, I want
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: to say like seven, six, maybe six years ago, six
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: years ago. And on the show, they said, Karen has
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: a boyfriend. He's this blue-eyed guy, okay? Yeah. And I'm like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: all right. Well, Karen goes after.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Now you're going to be on the next season, Heather,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: because you're putting the information on blast.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. It came out already, so I can say.
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: So then Karen says to Robin, who's getting remarried to
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: her ex-husband, Juan. And she goes, I don't believe you're
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: getting married. I don't believe you're getting married, Robin, because Juan,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: your husband, has a girlfriend.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: And she is a blonde, younger version of me or
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: looks like me. And they walk around Georgetown holding hands
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: and everyone knows it. And you know it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Robin's like, that's bullshit. But you have a boyfriend, this
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: blue eyed guy. And here's a photo of you in
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Vegas that a fan sent me of you with this
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: blue eyed guy at a bar in Vegas wearing. And
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: he's wearing whatever, like some sports gear. And she's like.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that wear that sports
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: gear and everything. I'm like, okay, fine. Then in an
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: upcoming episode, this other girl says, I went to a
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: nightclub with Karen and she was screwing a guy in
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the bathroom. What? The 59-year-old Adam. Meanwhile, Ashley was married
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to an ugly, pretty confident that he was bisexual guy.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: And she was bi as well. And he's an ugly
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: old Australian who also wanted to fuck Wanda Dixon. They
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: broke up, and she's getting divorced. So she's actually the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: most normal right now.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: When she was always the weirdest, too, with that ugly
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: old husband.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: This week, even though Karen said, you're never getting married,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Robin to Juan Dixon, they did. They announced they have
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: been married.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I love, love Robin.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Then there's this girl, Wendy, who is a professor, but
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: she doesn't want to be a professor anymore. She likes
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: being a housewife. She wants to sell candles. She got
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a new boob, new boobs and a new butt. And
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: she and Mia bond and they go, I think we
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: can be friends. We're both pretty. We both have fake asses.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Let's be friends. They literally said that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Is Mia at the front or number two?
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Mia's the last one. And then Mia's here. Okay. And
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: then Wendy's there.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: So on the last night of hanging out in Cancun,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: they all get drunk and they all, none of them
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: are wearing panties that night. Yes. And they all start
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: showing themselves. And Wendy says that Mia said, I really
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: want to eat your box. And they brought it up
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: on Watch What Happens Live, and Mia said, that's not true,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: but we would have a foursome with Wendy and her husband.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: In which, at that time, I would eat your box.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably. Yeah. So.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Were they all showing their titi, like their front, or
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: just their butts without their underwear? Or they were just
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: flashing it?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: They said after the cameras went down, everyone started to
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: show their vaginas. And then she said, I really want
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: to eat your box.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: Goddamn.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: So.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Julie's like, I got to watch this season. I'm just saying.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: I'm only going to watch immediately.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: There used to be a time when Real Housewives of
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: OC began and it was about, you know, your loser
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: kid or trying to sell insurance.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Or maybe your boyfriend that you bought teeth for had
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: fake cancer. Right.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: And Brooks is right for me. Brooks is right for me.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Bria.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Bria.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But Vicky did pop it off by saying, I don't know.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: They did try to weave the storyline in. They did
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: also say that Kelly Dodd was doing a train. That
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: was a complete and total lie. And they just said
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: it one day because there was nothing going on in
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: the scene and they thought, hi Mr. Producer, you're going
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: to be happy with me. I heard Kelly's doing a train.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: It's like, what? And then you have to defend that
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: all season, whatever. So I am done With all this,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: except I think these girls really are freaks.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Do you like that the stakes have been raised? Because
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: one thing I appreciate here is that, and now you
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: didn't mention it, so I'm not sure.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: It did start bothering me when, because it became very gotcha,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: like about drugs. I started getting into like drugs and
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: like gotcha with affairs, but not fun. Like I'm kind
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: of into the fact that they're all just freaky.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem... It doesn't seem dark the way
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you're describing it. They seem like they're into it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I want to see. I mean, it seems
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: like they're having fun.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's all true. I mean, I
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: think that there could be infidelity on Juan Dixon's part.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I think that Karen has probably had some type of
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: or I think that probably her old man hasn't screwed
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: her in 10 years and whether he knows she's screwing
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: someone or not.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: It's fine.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Or he has a girlfriend, too.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: It's fine.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: But that's not the persona they wanted on the show,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: rightfully so, because that's not what a 33-year-old young mom
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: watching Bravo aspires to be. You don't see Karen, and
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: you're like, you know what I hope? I hope that
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I meet the love of my life that's rich, but
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: once he gets too old to fuck me, that I
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: have a boyfriend. Like, you don't want it. It might happen. Right.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: This is a reality that happens, I think, with a
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: lot of, like, rich people, and I think it's good
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: that we know it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: But it's not what you want out there in the streets,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: as they would say, you know? And it's all out
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: there now. So I think, yeah, I think this is, it's,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: a very unique franchise in that I've never seen this
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: many elements. We've had a little bit, you know, Tamra
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: tries to act like she's a little bit gay with
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Bronwyn or whatever, but this is like, that is like,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: what is that? That's like child's play. This is full-blown.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Every single character.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: But I also feel like once this is all out
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and it's all, then what's gonna be next season? We're
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: all freaks, we're all super sexual, we all have open relationships.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: But are we still going to get mad at each
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: other when someone says something rude about our countertops?
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the charity event.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: You gave me good advice when we've known each other
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: for years but like with just different dramas and you're like,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: we can't be, we're too old to be like housewives
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to be like, I'm going to be upset you said
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: something about me and then now I'm going to talk about.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: It for two years.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Like they, one comment and it's like then they're dragging
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: it out and rehashing it for like, I mean, compare
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: this to Salt Lake City. It's like, I mean, Salt
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Lake City has.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Just been horrific.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about Salt Lake City. I mean,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. Please, one of them needs to go
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: have sex with someone.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the reunion is going to be tonight, the first episode. And,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: you know, Lisa Barlow brings up, like, oh, well, I
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: heard that, you know, something about popping pills.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Do we care? Nobody cared that Kathy Griffin said that
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen did coke before the show. Whether he did
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: it or not, who cares?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: They're like, Probably.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: It's a late night show. You're Hollywood. You think that
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: people at home are like, whether that's true or not. Like,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I just don't think these things are shocking. Especially when
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: you're Meredith, who's, again, had an open marriage.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Had boyfriends. You know, the rumor is that she and
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Jen Shaw dated the same guy who also dated Ramona.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: And like, yeah. All right.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: So kingpin guy. I mean, nobody thought when she was
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: brutalizing the family. You're brutalizing my family, Lisa. She was
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: on Xanax that entire season and drinking. And it's like,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: of course you are.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: You're stressed out.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: You know, Lisa's saying you fucked half of New York. Like,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: we expect you to be popping pills. If you're not,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: we're disappointed. We know already that, I mean, that's the
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: thing about, like, I want them to go have extramarital affairs.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Do something. But I don't want to care about the
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: fact that we're We know you're medicated. There's no way
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Jen Shaw's having some breakdown where she's like, she poured
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: champagne on someone's head. I'm like, she's on 14 different
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: drugs with alcohol. Even if it's just, you know, hormone drugs.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Or antidepressants. They're mixing, whatever they're mixing, they're mixing with
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: alcohol and it's boring to, that shouldn't be the gotcha
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: of it all. We need like actual, like.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's, she throws the shoe in the water.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I want. And Ryan, or Ryan Bailey brought up a
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: good point. Like in the past, they would have brought
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: on randomly the, the guy who supposedly, Lisa Barlow, who
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: we love, that's like our queen, she sucked the dicks
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: for the jazz tickets. It's like, somebody needs to show
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: up at a party, and this is what Ryan Bailey said,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: like with that guy. Like, you know what, here's Carl,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: here's my friend, John.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: Like they did in New Jersey.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they constantly, you know how they'll bring on these
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: side people in the storylines? Like, they didn't do any
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: of that this season.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Well, probably whoever that guy is that was rumored, he's like, no,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be on the show. And she's probably like, yeah,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I don't even wanna bring No, I wouldn't think she
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: would do it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I think someone else would.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Or like, yeah.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I think someone else would do it.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: But it's because it's not true, though.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: No, it's definitely not true.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: The rumor's not true. So it's like, you know. And
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: then where do you go from there? If you really
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: go so far to like end someone's marriage, then you're
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: in that position of, well, are they going to ask
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: you back? So apparently the rumor is they got rid
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: of the side girls that did nothing this season. And
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Jen Shaw.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: Are they going to fire Heather Gay?
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: No. For the bullshit she pulled on us?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Meredith was a full extra. She didn't do anything this season.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Meredith is on, and so is Heather Gay, and so
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: is Whitney, and then Lisa Barlow, and then there's going
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: to be like one or two new ones. And supposedly,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: the rumor is Mary Crosby comes back.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: You know, everyone's mad, not for nothing, and not to
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: beat the Jen Shaw dead horse, and what she did
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: was wrong or whatever. Mary Crosby is a full grifter.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: Mary Crosby is a full criminal. Mary Crosby is a
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: full criminal. You're going to have her back, but you're
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: going to fire Jen Shah?
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true. I don't believe that
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: it's true. I don't believe you'd bring Mary Crosby back
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: with her shadiness.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: She's just too much.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Miami, everyone's loving it. And this was
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: pretty juicy. This was pretty good. So, Larsa Pippen, married
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: to Scottie Pippen. she had a beef with this little
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: girl named Nicole and she's a full doctor who's marrying
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: a very rich, a personal injury attorney, but she's a
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: full medical doctor. Like not just doing injections. Like she
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: goes and like saves lives. Anesthesiologist or something like she
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: went to medical school. Lars is like, I heard that
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: you fucked everyone, every doctor at the hospital or something.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: And Dr. Nicole is like, wait, what? And Dr. Cole
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: gets really pissed. She's like, Like, fuck off. Like, I've
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: gone to 20 years of school to do this. And
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: you're just going to say this and throw this out
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: that is, like, horrible to my reputation. Meanwhile, you're selling
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: your picks of your feet for $ 5 on OnlyFans. And
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: your biggest claim to fame was marrying Scottie Pippen. Like,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: you haven't established anything for yourself. So people really liked her.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing. She also said that Julia, who's
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: married to Martina Navratilova.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Navratilova?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: That she was seen making out with a guy at
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: a restaurant. And she said, yes, I was.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So that was the end of that. Lisa Hochstein is unrecognizable.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: So Lisa, her husband is a plastic surgeon. He's with
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: this other girl who's kind of like a grifter too.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: She got married to some guy, got rid of him,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: got new lips and a better face. And, you know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: she's dating the husband. So that's all really juicy. But
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: this one's a good one. I also get to see
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Pretty Miami so and now Lisa Larsa Pippen is Instagram
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: official dating Michael Jordan's son Marcus Jordan and there's a
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: 16 year age difference and she has four kids.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: With Michael Jordan's ex-teammate who supposedly according to the doc
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: you know the Michael Jordan doc which was great him
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: and Scottie Pippen they're not close like I don't know
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that they hate each other some people think they hate
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: each other but they were you know like teammates and
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: for years and years and years and then it became
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: bad blood at the end so I mean I don't
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: think it's that a lot of people are offended I
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: don't think it's that bad simply because everyone's alive maybe
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: one thing if like Scottie Pippen was was dead or
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was dead it'd be like well god isn't
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: this kind of a slap in the face but everyone's
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: alive so I think I'm sure she talks to Scottie
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Pippen like on the reg about their kids and her
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: money that she.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Gets i mean he's 31 she's 48 i don't care
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: about whatever it is yeah the age of who cares
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: but like she really is getting what she wanted because
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: she was always wanting to be i think famous be
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: with the kardashians the kardashians kim kind of dumped her
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: and now look i mean this what gets you talking
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: even if she doesn't like this cat that much who
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: cares This is juicy.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she probably really likes him.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why not?
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: She looks great and good for her.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Harry Hamlin said that the real reason Lisa Rinna, according
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: to Daily Mail, left Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: because of the Elton John ticket mix-up with Sutton.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: That was really the straw that broke.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Of course, that's not the... Yeah, like anyone at home
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: cared about... or understood how Hollywood fake charity events really
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: fucking work and who pays and who doesn't.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: With Diana the grifter.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's where it was like, she's like, didn't
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: want to talk about anything on camera. Like, sorry, I
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: charged everyone $ 500, 000 a table for the Elton John charity.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Which I underwrote.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: But I don't want to talk about this on camera.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, anytime any weird financial shit came up, you
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: could just see her like. Any of it.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: The book. She wouldn't talk about the book.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: The hooker book. The hooker book. Maybe that was the
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: reason Lisa quit.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Like, how did you get all these people just to
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: like spend a day doing a photo shoot for some
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: lame book?
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: And Lisa's in it, and she's the only one that's
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: in it. And Lisa had no problem.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: She was like, oh, that was the book I was in, right?
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: And then showed the picture of it. She was, like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: into it.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, she's gone.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: She'll be back, though.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: I'm going to miss her soap operatic acting on the show.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Heather? What do you think? Will
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you miss Lisa right now? Have you weighed in?
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I have, and....
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: No.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just, I think.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I think Beverly Hills needs a pause. No, I think
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: it'll be good. Like, you know, now people just, they
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: chose Kathy Hilton over her. That's it. And I think
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton said, I'm not coming back. And I think
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: they said, you know what? We've had Lisa Rinna and
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: her fans for eight years. Now there's a new group
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: of fans that are just really into Kathy Hilton, her wealth,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: her family. And, and they want to see that dynamic
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: with her and Kyle and Kathy.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Potatoes loaded with caviar.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kyle, you know. But, you know, it was
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: interesting because remember when Kyle had the TV show about
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the mom? Yes. The scripted show.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: And I was talking to my friend and she said,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I watched that show. And I'm like, I think you
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: were like the only one. And I think it was
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: just like a weird channel to find. Like, how was it?
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: And I read the Hilton book, which was not flattering
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: towards Big Kathy at It was all these people that
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: had really negative things to say. It's who they interviewed
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: about Big Kathy. So it was pretty juicy, like kind
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: of how she got these guys and then had to
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: have her kids work in the business to like pay
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: and whatever. And so I think that's why when they
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: found out that Kyle and Kyle told me how she
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: got that show. She was at the Soho house with
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: two people that just were interested in her and were like,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: want to have lunch. And she's like, sure. They're like writer, producers.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: And she started telling all these crazy stories about her
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: mom being a single mom and them being these actor kids.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: And they're like, we want to make a show about this.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: So then they do the show. And according to what
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: I heard about the show, it really wasn't the negative
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: stuff that had been written about her mom in this
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: famous Hilton book. It was they made her like very
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: endearing as a single mom, whatever. But I think Kathy
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: and Kim thought it's going to be a reflection of
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: our mom that was written like in this book. And
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: that's why they had that big riff for all those
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: years and like didn't talk to Kit.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: You know, Kyle.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: When then when the show came out, which no one watched,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a derogatory portrayal of their mom at all.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: So now that that's like all done. You know, I
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: think people want to see the dynamic of that family.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd like to see Kim brought back. Yes.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see. I would like to see all
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: their daughters do shit together. Like, let's see the cousins, like,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: not the cousins, the nieces get involved and stuff.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Kathy is coming back?
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I definitely think she's coming back now.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: Okay, good.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: But I don't know that we know for sure. I
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: would love to see Kim back. And yeah, like, Farrah,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: they're all doing real estate with Maurizio, like all of
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Kyle's kids are. And then, yeah, the dynamic is fantastic.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I also think Kim and Kathy were annoyed with Kyle because.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Because Kim, I would think, spent the bulk with the
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: mom doing the acting. Kim was the real... Mikhail did
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: a ton of child acting too, but Kim did a ton.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: So I feel like they're real possessive over that mom.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: And yeah, how are you going to decide how she's portrayed?
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: And when the mom died, they were all really... They
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: were just kind of adrift. She was their anchor.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I just think people want to really see... What these
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: shows started out as, you know, with New Jersey 2,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the real family stuff. Why is it, you know, what
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: makes these families work? And do you remember, I'm going
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: to end on this because I just looked this up.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Do you remember this show that was called American Family?
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Did you ever hear about this? They actually did a
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: documentary about it.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, that looks good and creepy and weird.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: So it was.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: A 12-part docuseries on PBS in 1973 called American Family.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: And this guy found this family through a friend. And
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: she was like, you've got to meet this family. They
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: live in Santa Barbara. They have some money, but it
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: wasn't crazy. It was, like, upper middle class. And they
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: had these five, like, teenager, young adult kids. And they
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: filmed them. And, like, 12 million people were watching it.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: And one kid, you know... was gay. And like, so
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: that was very controversial at the time or it was
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: coming out that dad, I think had an affair. There
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: was a divorce that was happening. It was all caught.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: It's like an original, like reality show.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: It was the original. I think it's what, what was
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: the thought of behind real housewives when it first started? Like,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I just want to see these regular women that their,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: their life is being housewives, you know? And now I
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: feel like the show and everything evolves is like, This
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: is a launch pad to... One time it was a
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: launch pad to have a hit single or whatever. Now
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: it's to do live events and have a podcast or whatever.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Something easier than actually selling. Yeah, but I think they
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: realize that having a restaurant and having products is harder
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: to sell. But the point is, it's just all... It's
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: more of a launching pad to being an influencer, to
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: having a whole other career in television. When I think
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: the original thought was... we just want to go in
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: your home and see what it, what your day to
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: day life is like as a housewife and the housewife
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: of like real housewives of OC. We're, we're thinking, okay,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: I'll let the world kind of see what my life
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: like a housewife is like. And now it's just so different.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: And I don't think we're ever going to get back
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: to that because it's too far gone with social media
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: and everything.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: But I think the reason is because they don't have
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: any job security and they go into it knowing, especially Tamara.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's kind of a cautionary tale.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of these people end up divorced or
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: their kids don't speak to them or they end up married.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Like Cynthia and her guy, she just recently married Mike
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, from Atlanta? Yeah.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: It's like they constantly have to make their life the
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: storyline and they exploit their life. And then it can
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: be like somewhat ruinous to their own life or their
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: own personal mental health. And so they're like, and only
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: for Bravo to drop them when they're no longer interesting
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: or they become whatever, like Lisa Rinna keeps upping the stakes.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Now she's dropped. She doesn't have some, she doesn't, she's
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: not in some union, the housewives union where she gets
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: her money or she has her pension or her health insurance.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: There's no residuals.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's like, yeah, I need to fucking make
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: my stupid dumb podcast that I can at least have
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: a job when Bravo drops me without a care in
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: the world. And I do think that that is why,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: because they go and they go for so long and
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: they make this and then Bravo doesn't want to give
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: raises as like they did before. I mean the, their
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: salaries got astronomical and out of control. So I do
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: get that, but there is no job security with that.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: It really is like selling your, your soul to the devil.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: And it's like, and sometimes you do get lucky and
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: your husband's a cheater and you're Lisa and you get
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: to have the, and you get to have this divorce
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: and everyone's like, Miami's so good. I'm like, but if
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Lisa's husband didn't cheat, would Miami be that good? Like what,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: what we're wishing for or like, Oh my God, you know,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: shout him a door getting divorced or something like that.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: So then all of a sudden they're like, Oh, Well,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: you know, so-and-so has no, like, or even Meredith. Meredith
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: has no storyline. Well, she's back with her husband. Her
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: son is out. There's no secret there. She's not fighting
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: with anyone. Like, is she going to, what is she
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: going to do? Tell her daughter to go transition so
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: she has a storyline? Right. How far do you go to, like,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: you know, and then, or do I bring up the, okay, what,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: what have I kept in my arsenal for season five?
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: When I was 17, I was suicidal. So I'm going
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: to talk about that for, you know, and you can
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: do that, but like, okay, so now that's done.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: We don't want to hear about your eating disorder anymore.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: What else you got? What else you got? Well, my
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: mom has early signs of Alzheimer's. Give us something else.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Like what, what?
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And then it's not enough.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: But I also think like, it's probably not meant to
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: last forever. Which is why this show is the biggest
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: thing and it was 12 seasons. It's probably to be
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: a glimpse of someone's life for a couple years.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: You guys are, they're not Supreme Court justices. We need
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: term limits. We need term limits going in. Bitch, we're
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: gonna watch you for two years. We don't care how
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: many kids you have. We don't care what, and then
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: you need to go. Like, and then we can all
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: just know that there's going to be a turnover because
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: we get very attached because we're just waiting for them
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: to just you know circle back until they're getting canceled
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: themselves or get fired you know i mean and it
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: and it's it's stressful for them i feel like with
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: someone like meredith though she at least needs to get
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: in there and fight She at least needs to get
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: in there and say stop brutalizing my family and then
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: drag out a tweet for the whole season. I mean,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: that was one tweet that happened off, not even while
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: they were filming. This season, she refuses to even engage.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I'm disengaging and then she disengaged.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: If you're above it, then you get fired. I mean,
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: I think if you're so above it, then you gotta go.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? All she does is talk
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: about I don't want to talk about that. Like, she's
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: just never, she's always above it. She doesn't want to
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: talk about it. So then go. If you think that you're.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Above it, then go. And Atlanta does it well in
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: terms of, oh, I don't have a storyline, but I'm
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: going to sit and then I'm going to talk shit about,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: you know, Portia and her. You at least got to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: be down in the mud about it.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though. If you're truly like a funny,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: entertaining person, you know, you don't, like, Giselle doesn't have
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: anything going on. But she's entertaining to look at, to watch.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: She's not going anywhere. She's a friend to Robin. She's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: great in the scene. She's a game. Like if you're
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: funny and you have like interesting things to say, then
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: you don't have to be the one holding the bombshell
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: rumor or be the one who's getting divorced or whatever.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: But that's that's why everybody wants you on like the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: OC so we can get like funny hilarity just watching
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: them all. be, I mean, because some of them are funny.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I think Shannon's funny. Kelly Dodd is funny.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: No, there's definitely funny moments. That's not what the show is.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: It is for us. We don't want to watch the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: ones that aren't funny.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: I think everyone has a very hard job ahead of them.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: On everybody.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: The producers, Bravo, who to cast, what to do when
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: it's your person, if you're on it. I don't know.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I like analyzing it. I don't know how to fix it.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know where the future's going to be.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: But I will always come up with something like this
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: where I'm like.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Wait, I want to watch this.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: That's what it was supposed to be like, you know,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: and it's just not like that.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Well, Julie subscribes to every PBS in streaming service. So
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping we can track this down. But there was.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Also some documentary a few years ago or some show
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: reflecting on this show.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's good, too. I'll find it on PBS.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Like looking back at American Family or whatever.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Right. Yes.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: And did they update where these people are?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Because that was the first I had heard of it.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Because obviously I wasn't. But I feel like my mom
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: talked about it or something when I was a little kid.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: It sounds like in the zeitgeist.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Of like how juicy it was because it was like
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: teenagers and, you know.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: And they're going to be living through ER, right? I mean,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: women just literally. So isn't science 72, right?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: So this is only one year after women were allowed.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: to have their own credit cards. 1972 was the first
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: year a woman was allowed to have her own credit card.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: And this is 1973. So you know that there's girls
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: in this that are going to be like, but women, mom.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I can't believe not one of those people in the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: back didn't kill someone. That's what I just wish. That's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: what I would love.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know where they all are. We'll have to
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: look that up, I would think. I saw a show
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: last night. because it got such bad reviews.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to ask.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: It's called The Real Friends of WeHo.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: You make us watch the weirdest shit, okay? You made
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: us watch that orgasm ink.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: That documentary, sorry.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've done like 90, different 90-day fiancé auctions.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I know, I know. But thank God, Heather, you were,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: this time, you were like, you didn't even try. You
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: lightly sprinkled the dust of The Real Friends of WeHo,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: but you were like, I'm not going to make you
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: guys go through the hell.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: I did watch some of it.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Thank God.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: I did watch some of it.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I first want to say the real Friends of WeHo is,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: you know, trying to be like the Housewives. It's on MTV.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: It's before Drag Race. And the stars of it are
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Brad Goreski, who we know because he does these hilarious
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: impressions where he puts on a wig and just mouths
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: his Housewives.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: So because of that, he gets to do panels on
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: BravoCon and everything.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Also, he was a stylist who has apparently turned... He
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: was an assistant stylist to Rachel Zoe.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: To Rachel Zoe.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: He's a wonderful personality.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: And also married to the funniest writer on Family Guy.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Love, love, love.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Gary Gennady.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: So I think he's a good person to choose for this.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying you wouldn't have him. I just... So anyway,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: when this was first coming, I had... Carlos on, and
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: I think we talked about it after. I don't think
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: it was on the show. Carlos King, who is a
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: gay man and he's a producer and he was on
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: my show. And he was like, I don't want to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: watch a bunch of gay guys. And I'm gay. And
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: I go, oh, that's interesting. So then this came out
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: and got so much hate from gay men on Twitter.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: It was unbelievable, and they were going after, and then,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: you know, Todrick, who is one big brother, and he
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: was this big YouTuber. I once did this, like, commercial
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: for Virgin Airlines with him. That was my only, and
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: then it was like, and then he talks about how
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: he's canceled, but they never tell us what he was
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: canceled for. And one thing was, like, he didn't pay
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: his dancers once or something. I don't know. Or people
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: don't like how he played big brother.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: He's really polarizing. He is. People like you either love
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: him or hate him, but he definitely has had problems with,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: being a bit of a grifter. Well, I mean, we
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: really like him, but.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: So in the one episode, he comes off totally nice
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: and normal. And, you know, and then there is James,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: who's married to.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Jonathan Bennett.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Bennett. And they became famous because they're, they got
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: a deal for Kay Jewelers, for gay jewelry brands.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: Which one is he?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: In the tank?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: In the tank. Yeah. And their whole, their whole social
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: media and everything is about their love and their marriage
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: and everything.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: With Aaron Samuels.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Who's Aaron Samuels?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: From Mean Girls.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was his main thing.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: So anyway, it just, I watched it and it got,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: I think it 60,000 people watched it was the, was
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: the demo.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Neat.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: So then I watched it the next day. So it's 60,001.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: And the guys are fine. I just think, I don't
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: think they're real friends. And I think like just the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: drama is created. I almost feel like they're, trying to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: be real housewives and it's just too late in the game.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: I almost feel like if this show would have come
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: out like 10 years ago when we were into Queer
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: Eye and stuff, it might have been like a little
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: more intriguing to us. But now I just feel like
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: we all know gay people. I don't know, maybe because
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: I live in LA. So I was just like, I
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: don't find this that like groundbreaking interesting.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that had they done, first of all,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: they're not real friends. I think maybe a couple of
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: them know each other.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Can I just say, Chandra Kahl does not live full
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: time in WeHo either. He lives in Texas. So that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: also bothers me. And I mean, again, I say this
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: as a huge fan of Chandra Kahl. We've met him.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: And I love Brad Goreski, too. But one thing is
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: don't call it the real friends. Don't call it the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: real anything.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: But copying the real housewives. Yeah.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: But.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: He doesn't even live in fucking WeHo.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: He doesn't.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: The only thing real is that they're gay. So why
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: is it the real gays of WeHo?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Or the real gays of United States of America.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: Or if you're going to do that, then it should
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: be in a different place, I guess. But WeHo is
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: so specific. It's so LA. And they're so... I think
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: part of the... This problem is that they are jumping
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: out the gate selling themselves and what they're trying to sell,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: I found. And so if you're going to be a
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: group of gay friends... like, hooking up and doing gay stuff, like, okay.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: But now we're coming out like, I have a jewelry
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: brand and I'm just trying to, and they all seem
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: braggy and shitty and shady. I'm sorry. And I, like
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: I said, I like Todrick and I like Brad Gretzky.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: But I don't want to see you coming out just
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: selling shit.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: There's this one guy over here that's like, I'm the CEO.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I'm the CEO. And I'm like, what are you the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: CEO of? Dicks. I'm the CEO of dicks. It's like
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: a cleanser or something. It's like a skin brand thing.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: So he's like, as the CEO, I need to travel
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: with security to this one gay guy's televised party, engagement party,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: where 12 people are there. He went with his own
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: big black security guard. And then he's like, well, you're
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: not very friendly. I mean, it's just.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. It doesn't work.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: It doesn't work. And it's too bad. You know, I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: would watch. I want to watch gay guys do stuff.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: So then Todrick did an open letter about the hate. Yeah.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: And he was like, God, it's really awful. Like, why
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: can't we, you know, why can't we show ourselves, all
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: of us? Why are we only a side character? Why
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: can we only be that funny, like, side character? Why
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: can't it be all of us? All right, it can
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: be all of you, but I guess nobody's choosing to watch.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: Well, it can't be all of you if it's somehow authentic.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: None of this is authentic. It's all bullshit. Not any
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: Also, the way it's filmed is every time. Come on.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Every time it's filmed, it'll show they're going to meet
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: for coffee. And this slow-mo's. each guy just starts walking
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: down to get a coffee slow-mo and then hi and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: then the next they arrive at the party and they
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: come out of the car and it's like normal speed
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: and then walking to the party slow i'm like my
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: god we don't need the slow-mo walk just like.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: And they're trying to brand that or make that part
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: of the... What was the name of the show that
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: was gay guys? It was scripted. It had, you know...
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: In the Abbey? No, the guy.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, Queer as Folk or Noah's Ark?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: There was a show about working at the Abbey.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: That was before. Queer as Folk, Noah's Ark. Queer as Folk,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: is that what it was called? So then this should
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: be called the real Queer as Folk then, like the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: real L word. Yes. And they should do it like that,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: But MTV's just being derivative as well. Maybe they're trying
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: to make it kind of like Lauren Conrad-looking-esque, like The Hills.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, because.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: I guess also the fact that none of them are
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: couples or anything, or none of them are gonna hook
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: up with each other.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: And I kind of think that's.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: What was interesting about Queer as Folk and Elle. Yeah.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: There's no anchor of the show because even in those
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: scripted shows you have the anchor couple. You know what
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: I mean? It's like Jennifer Beals and whatever. And then
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: in Queer as Folk there was like a main couple.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: And in Real Housewives there's couples.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: I mean essentially there's three married couples. But do you
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: ever meet the... Yeah, you see the other spouses but.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: But maybe that's not as fun. Maybe we want to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: see the guys.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: We do.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: Well, it doesn't matter if they're married. They would go
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: hook up still.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Where's the twink? We also need a cross section of
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: WeHo that we see all the time. We all go
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: out in WeHo all the time. Even like Craig's, wherever
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: we are in West Hollywood, this just isn't an accurate
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: cross section of the West Hollywood scene. And I mean, yeah,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: where's the twink? Sorry, but not sorry. It's not Mr.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Aaron Samuel.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: Where's the pass around party bottom? He isn't there.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: We need the sex. We need the fun.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Wait, hold on.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Let me go back to that. Okay, one second.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: I feel like with gay shows, too, what we have
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: to start getting away from, and this was the cornerstone
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: of Queer as Folk and The L Word, and it's
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: somehow when we are side characters, it's not so much,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: but when gays get together and are the focal point
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: of the show, I feel that we are so used
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: to having to defend it that it becomes the focal
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: point of like, well, we deserve this. And it's like,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: we need to let that go and just be. You
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: don't need to tell everyone why we deserve this. And
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: I do feel like that was like what I saw,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: what was going on. It's like, finally, we're here and
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: we're just gay guys doing it. We're allowed and we
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: can do that. It's like, you are because you're there.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: So let's stop that.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Also, I think there was some backlash too as like, Yes,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: but gay guys are the top of the LGBTQ pyramid of, like, privilege.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: So then there's people that are like, you know, shut up.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: And they're all rich and they're all successful.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I think it could have been.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Which is what they, again, that's what you want with Housewives.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: So I get how the show came about. And I
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: like that they're talking, like, saying, hey, I'm on this
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: show for this reason. And, you know, this one guy
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: just came out and he's an actor and he's like.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: You know, a while.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, but.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: I think that, one thing I think Todrick Hall is
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: great at writing, he's leaned into writing the wave of
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: controversy because he's been controversial for so long. So, I mean,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: he's a super savvy, great businessman and super, super talented.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: I think that the show, and even with this exact cast,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: would have been 100% different on Showtime where the real
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Elwood is, which had sex. It literally had, like, strap-ons
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: in the very first season of the real Elwood. MTV
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: coined and invented the fake, scripted, unscripted show. The Hills
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: and Laguna Beach were fake. They were fake, and that's
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: the whole thing at the end of The Hills when
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: they raised the curtain. It's like, we don't wanna watch
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: a fake-produced show. The audience is, we are so much,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: so far beyond The Hills.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: So 10 years ago, yeah.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we needed to sit on Showtime with some dicks
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: and some stuff.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: And sexy time. And 10 years ago.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's little follow-up on the TJ Holmes show. affair
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: of the good morning America. So, so he had the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: affair with Amy Robach. Okay. They both were, I don't
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: know where it is right now. It looks like they're
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: both never coming back, but are they still together? We
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Well, they're not looking for replacements, but they're not saying
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: that they got it came out that besides each cheating
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: on their spouse, though, they say we weren't cheated. He
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: had an affair with a married female producer for three
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: years in which Amy was friends and sometimes often their
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: confidant before she started dating TJ. It also came out
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: that he had an affair with a 24-year-old ABC intern
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: 13 years his junior for like a year, a few
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: years ago, and it involved having sex in his office.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: On the property sounds some fun times going down a
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: good morning maybe you should be doing that the real
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: hose of good morning america i have received.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: An alleged account of someone from a former station that
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: he worked out when he was married to his first
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: wife in which he had an affair with someone.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: Who worked there oh so tj likes to get around
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: he's a.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Serial cheater in my opinion in my opinion so this
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: latest one that this girl you know this woman has
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: come this has come out um so we see, you know, Amy,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: she spotted arriving at JFK airport.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Giving you an Ellen Barkin effect.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: And you know, it just, this is what happens when
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: you think it's all sexy and fun and you're having
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: an affair and you think this guy cannot keep his
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: hands off of you. And he's so into you. And
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: finally someone gets you and, Then you realize, no, he's
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: just a player. He's a total cheater romancer. And most
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: likely I'm not going to be his last girlfriend's wife
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: in life. And fuck, now I might not be on
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: this show either because I acted... I can't say that
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: I too was an underling victim of his to try
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: to keep the job.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: So I think.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: they're both going to get the boot. That's my prediction.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: I think we need to wash our hands of this thing.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Good morning, America. I think it's embarrassing. I don't think
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: it's what we need to be reminded of when people
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: have their coffee. And they'll probably get huge chunks of money,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: both of them.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Well, he might not, but she may.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: It's like a severance or like a retirement. I don't know.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: They always do. They always do. But you know, the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: bummer about her is she was caught on with a
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: hot mic at one point saying I had all the
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Epstein scoop and they didn't let me do the interview
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: they didn't let me share it they killed my story
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm still pissed about it and at that point
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I was like oh my god this girl's gonna leave
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: here and she's gonna have her own thing and she's
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: gonna do this investing she's gonna be a star but
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: she didn't she played the good employee she started fucking
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: TJ she got divorced and she kept the easy good
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: on Good Morning America and now she's twice divorced twice
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Guy that she was madly in love with, it's starting
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: to show his true character and his patterns.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: And she got to fly down to, like, the Galapagos and, like,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: hang out with birds.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: She had the real kush.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Real, real good on Good Morning America. Like, bitch, you
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: weren't even doing the stories in there, like, in, you know,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: in Times Square at 6 a.m.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: And that's really, like, I wonder if The Morning Show,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: which I haven't watched... has does it have this type
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: of storyline there was.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: A there was a part a time when both tj
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: and her were on with a couple other people and
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: they had someone from the morning show on and say
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: yeah we watch your show to come up with stuff
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: and she's and they all start like laughing like hyenas
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: and like oh you don't know how close it really
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: is like it was it's crazy yeah.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy to think about the culture at
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: both because today was matt lauer and now this it's
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: like What are they all banging in their offices at
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: 8 a.m.? Like bagels like shaking on their desks? Like,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: come on.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Pamela Anderson, she's got her doc out and
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: her book. And she said when she was 25, Tim Allen,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: while she was working on Home Improvement, she was the
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: hot tool girl. It was a sitcom. And he was 37.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: And the first day she came in the hallway and
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: he was wearing a bathrobe and he opened his bathrobe
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: and flashed her completely naked. And she was like, and
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: he goes... I've seen you naked, so now you've seen
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: me naked. It's only fair. It's a trade-off. And she
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: was like, ha, ha, ha. So now it's come out.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: He said, no, that's never happened, which he should because
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: there's no way to prove that it is. And, like,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: do I think it happened? A hundred percent because that's him,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: and I don't think people thought about her– Like, and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: that you're being disrespectful just because she chose to be naked.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Everyone thought differently then. Still, really gross and really rude
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: and not good on his part, but I totally believe her. Yeah.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think she was, I doubt she was super
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: traumatized over it.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: I think it was one match in a matchbook filled
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: of dicks that were flashed at her, that were put
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: on her, that were thrown at her.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: One match in a matchbook full of dicks. Dun-a-dun-a-dun. I
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: was flashed when I was nine. And also on the whole,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: instead of, yeah.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: Home improvements.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Because who was the other person? She said someone else.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: It came out, it was, oh, it was Sylvester Stallone
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: made her the offer that she could be, she could
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: be his number one girl, I guess, second to his wife.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: And he would get her a car and he would
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: get her a place to live. He's also denied it.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: It all happens.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: They also just wrapped their docu-series. That's what you call
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: a reality show when you want to sound smart. They're
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: doing a reality show, him and his wife that he
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: pretended to divorce.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jennifer Flay.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: They didn't get divorced?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: They were getting divorced, but they were filming. Now we
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: know they were filming the reality show. So it was
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: a fake divorce, a fake filing with the daughters.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: I believe that. And then also there was a Steven Seagal.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Sorry. That was Jenny McCarthy. He had a Steven Seagal story.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: There's no way. Similar, though. Like, oh, because I'm a playmate.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: You know she got predatorized 50 million times a day.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: His dick was one dick of 10 that day. There's
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: no way that that woman wasn't. constantly harassed and even
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: more than any regular woman would be because she'd gotten naked.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: They think that, I mean, I spoke to a guy
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: the other day who was like, well, what was she wearing?
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm gonna burn you alive. I will burn
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: you alive. Like, what was she wearing? Doesn't matter what
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: she was wearing. I don't care if your dick's inside
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: of her. I don't care. Second she's uncomfortable, go fucking
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: fuck off. So, like, It drives me insane.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Do you think those pin-thin eyebrows will ever come back?
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: They're trying to make a comeback, but I'm not accepting it.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: The Playmate eyebrows.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: They'll never catch me tweezing mine to death again.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, I need to talk about Sisterwise real quick. Okay,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: a couple things. Came across something that is not proven.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: It's alleged. It's a rumor, but I think you want
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: to hear it, and I totally believe it's true because
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: I said it. Now, to get you guys up to date,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: they are filming the next season. However, Mary, Janelle, and
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: Christine have all left Cody romantically. They say we're no
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: longer together. He's only with his now legal wife, Robin.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: And I said, I'm sure the next season we'll be
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: searching for another sister wife. According to what I came
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: across last night, that is true.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: That is.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: And the girl is someone young and lives in South America.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: And they go down to visit her. And it's all
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: on camera.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't go well.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: And she is no longer interested. Meanwhile, Mary is trying
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: to do her retreats. And apparently nobody has signed up.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: We want to.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: Julie went and looked into it.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: And the only reason she didn't sign up was because
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: it says on the top, I won't discuss sister wives.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to pay for my Juicy Scooper
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: to go, but I have said if a Juicy Scooper
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: chooses to go, they will be welcomed here to come
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: on my show and talk about whatever. Obviously, I'm going
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: to ask about that, but we can talk about anything.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: And I have one woman who lives near there, and
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: I said, why don't you see if you can get
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: a better deal if you don't have to spend the night.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: You can go home every day, but you want to
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: be part of the thing. Maybe she'll cut you a deal.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: And you do the activities that we don't know about.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: But nobody's signing up. Well, the kids, the adult kids
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: are all talking. And they're revealing how, you know, how
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: screwed over all their moms got, especially Christine. Because being
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: that she wasn't married and she doesn't own any homes,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: only Cody and Robin do, they're all fucked financially. And
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: that's what polygamy does. If you leave, you're really fucked
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: financially if you're not the main married wife, which makes sense.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they didn't think of that earlier.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: There's also lots of details going on about, if you
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: want to go to Without the Crystal Ball, of what
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: has happened in the past before they started as far
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: as welfare and kids and what they got in bankruptcy.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: So I think that's going to all... Come out, too.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: And again, we might have two more people for grifters.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Did you find out.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: That Mary Christine and Janelle are on this season?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're all still on.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank God.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: So we're going to see their life opinions and all
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: of that. But the kids, I don't know how much
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: we're going to see of the kids.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: No, because they don't get paid. Now, one of the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: other toxic, horrific shows that you forced us to watch
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: is Seeking Sister Wife. We also did a full photo
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: shoot as Seeking Sister Wife. the characters yes they love
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: on that show unfortunately we all know to use that
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: popular sister wife app and many of them come from
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: south america i wonder if cody use the use the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: dating cody and robin.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: Oh my god so there's a seeking sister wife app
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: there's a looking for a third there's an app i
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: don't know what it's called but they all use it
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: on seeking sister wife.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: And that where people are looking for like to be
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: a someone's second or third wife and usually they're Well,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: we found a lot on Seeking Sister Wife. Many of
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: them are from, like, Latin America.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: Or Eastern Europe.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's like, yeah, they want to
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: come to America. I mean, you get to become American
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: and you get to be on a TV show. And
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: so if you kind of like Cody and Robin, like, okay,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: let's just do this for a while. And then, yeah,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: I won't be the main wife, but I can always
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: get out. But you will have to sleep with him.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Which is fine.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: The Dubai trip with all the... with all the influencers.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Our girl, Rebel Wilson, who came out last year, she
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: got a lot of shit for going.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: And Beyonce, right? Beyonce performed.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: And people are... But you know what?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: People can be mad. It doesn't stop people from going.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: It doesn't stop people from selling out rooms.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: Did anyone not watch the World Cup? Nobody cares that...
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: At Bravo, no one has a problem that Bravo has
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: a full house of... What about Salt Lake City? I mean.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Sex in the city. Sex in the city. In Dubai.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, you can be mad. That's what
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: social media is for. Go be mad.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go be mad.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Go be mad.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we're going to do about it.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: The person I'm going to do about it is somebody
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: who made $ 24 million. Like, why would Beyonce do that?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, for $ 24 million.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I'm more offended by.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: If it's not her, it's going to be someone else.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: You think she wants Rihanna to get that $ 24 million?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Or Madonna or whatever? So she's like, yeah, you want me?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: I'll go.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: And the music industry has tanked. They need to make
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: their money. People are making their money. And unless you
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: didn't watch the World Cup and you don't watch Bravo
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: at all, I'm going to go through every single person
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: who's offended about Beyonce making $ 24 million and go, do
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: you watch one single thing on Bravo? Well, then no.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Because Bravo made a full TV show there.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Also speaking of a TV show, I've talked about this show.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: There is this girl named Shauna Ray. And she is 23,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: but she had a brain situation happen.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Did you say you've watched it?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: I've only watched little clips. But it causes her to
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: sound and look like an 8-year-old, even though she's 23.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: So she doesn't look like a little person that you
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: would know has dwarfism. It's a form of dwarfism. So anyway,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: she met this guy, and they're dating. And he is
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: fighting back because everybody is saying that he's a creep.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, she is 23. So who
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: is she supposed to date?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Another eight-year-old. No, she can't date.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Then she would be the pedophile.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Heather.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: But I mean, let's be honest. I mean, that's the show.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: It is uncomfortable. I mean, we haven't watched the show,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: but I watched the trailer, and she sounds like a
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: kid and looks like a kid.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: But she doesn't have the mental capacity. I don't know.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: She is 23. She's not. Yeah. But yeah. I mean,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched it. I don't know if they're... making love.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know how far they've gone if they're making out,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: but he's fighting back.
• 1:25:55
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• 1:25:58
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  Speaker 1: Just go to our website and julianbrandy.com.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Classy way to say it.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't want to listen. I don't want
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: to listen to a political podcast.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, I mean, listen.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do one. In fact, I want
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: to quit it. Very badly.
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  Speaker 5: There's nothing less fun than what we.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: It's a living hell, Heather.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: It's my fault.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: It's a living hell. But isn't even doing this... A
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: living hell, yes. After years, aren't you just like, you
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: know what? Like, can't I just talk about, like, a
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: cooking show?
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  Speaker 2: Well, when I've talked about other stuff, people are like,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: I love that you... you know, talk about this controversial thing,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: but then I also get a one-star review, and I
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: get accused of something I'm not, and, like, how dare you, and,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: you know, why are you talking about Jamie Lee Curtis's
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: weird art? Why can't I? Why can't I?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: Why can't you? I insist that you do.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: But, like, all right, you know, Heather's just gone off
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: the deep end, and, you know, so whatever, so.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, we get that too, believe me.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: Do your research.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: You don't do, I mean, it's all about research.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Again, it's not a research show. It's my opinion.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: I point out what I think is interesting or juicy
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: in the world. I give my two cents. And your
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: two cents can disagree.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that you have to stop listening
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: to me, that you can't enjoy me. Yeah. But that's
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: okay that some people get real angry.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: I also think you do do your research because you
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: couldn't come. That's the funny thing. It's like, oh, did
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: you think I just walked off the street and I
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: didn't ever know anything about any of this? I haven't
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: done any research. Even if you, it's not enough research.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: Apparently you don't.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Have a doctorate.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: I also got a one-star review because I didn't invite,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: they thought I didn't invite my stepdaughter Mackenzie on our
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: BVI trip.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: When she 100% did not want to go. Now we're
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: reviewing your life, your personal choices at home. Heather, one star,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: you left the coffee mug in the sink.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: You need to be washing that right after you use it.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: Don't leave the mug.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'm like, do I need to bring her
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: on the show? Because she did not want to come.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: She would have been miserable. She was thrilled not to come. And, like,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: she's invited to everything.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: And she's 23, and she doesn't always want to come.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: And that's the choice of a 23-year-old. And I didn't
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: always want to be with my parents either.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Like, why? She wants to pretend she's watching the house
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: while she has people over.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: I also had someone also say, you loved Drake more
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: than Brandon. Oh!
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Are these people serious? Talk about pathological. You know what,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: George Santos, get off the reviews. Get off the reviews, George, Anthony, DeMarco.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, which is sad because Brandon is the spare,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: you know? And I'm like, wow. Anyway, I love you guys.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Love you.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having us.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 1:29:19
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• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: click and collect.
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  Speaker 2: So easy.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.