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- :00 all [Music] right this is Chad you remember me chad 0:07 Ripley how you doing this is his family you can run around here naked as a bear 0:13 and not worry about running into anybody 0:20 this is Roman what a guess this is his family i'm waiting for the heads to 0:26 rotate around and invit they're about to spend one week together in the great outdoors we weren't invited ah they'll 0:34 be tickled to death to see us who invited him anyway but this is no holiday 0:40 the man is an ass this is war 0:51 [Music] 1:01 you wouldn't know a good time if it fell out of the sky landed on your face and started a wiggle are you going to argue 1:06 or are you going to enjoy yourself 1:11 dan Ekroyd John Candy 1:17 The Great Outdoors outdoor fun for the whole family 1:24 that kind of hurt 1:30 [Music] 1:46 hello hello i'm Katie and welcome to Retro your pop culture rewind we're 1:52 continuing the season 2 John Hughes season and so we're going to go back today to 1:59 1988 for another brilliant dose of John Candy with John Hughes of course writing 2:05 and I'm happy to reintroduce all of you lovely listeners to returning guest 2:11 Jared Toxin from the hyperspace podcasting in the 25th century jared 2:17 thank you for coming back to join me for season two well Katie thank you for having me it's 2:23 a pleasure to be here and I can't wait to talk about the great outdoors indeed 2:29 tell us what's going on what's new in in your world of podcasting well the hyperspace me and the guys have kind of 2:36 struggled to get it together since since December i think the last episode we put 2:42 out was sort of like this this Christmas episode and um then uh we do also do 2:48 sort of reaction and review shows whenever Disney Plus puts out a new Star 2:54 Wars TV show and we put out one of those earlier this year so we've done a series 3:01 of episodes on the latest Star Wars TV series uh but for the past probably 6 3:07 weeks or so it's been pretty quiet at the Hyperspace Studios but we're always we're always talking about cranking it 3:13 up again and starting to do it but you know sometimes life happens and things 3:19 get in the way but it's not going anywhere we're certainly going to be continuing to do episodes uh well into 3:26 the future so glad to hear it i mean you got to continue on until at least the 25th century the 25th century i mean of 3:33 course i mean that's that's non-negotiable right so well I had inquired in the Breakfast Club 3:40 episode because I my school did not have Saturday detention and neither did Ryan 3:46 my guest Ryan's we had after school detention mhm and I was like is this a 3:52 thing is there detentions on Saturdays did your school have detention on 3:57 Saturdays Jared no not Not that I I I never had to go to detention i was a 4:03 nerdy good kid so it but it was mostly after school or in school suspension 4:10 they called it where you had to come to school on a school day and sit in detention which is a weird scenario 4:18 you're like double punishing i mean like you might as well educate the child if they're going to be there at any rate my 4:24 friend Kelly she informed me that her school did in fact have Saturday 4:30 detention so wow thank you Kelly for letting the Retro Show know that and I'd 4:36 love to hear from other people anyway yeah detention Saturday wow that that's 4:42 that's a fate worse than death for a for a school kid saturdays are sacred 4:49 without further ado should we spin the wheel for this absolutely 4:55 forward to this yeah we're going to open the time caps for you guys we're going back to June of 1988 i'm going to spit 5:01 on your behalf let's see what we what we on 5:07 oh it's a good one vhs vault okay okay 1988 it's a good year 5:17 can you name the five top video rentals so this is not at the big screen 5:24 video rentals of 1988 uh woman discovers love passion and the art of dancing at a 5:30 summer resort dirty Dancing of course a gritty action movie featuring a 5:35 mismatched cup duo tango and Cash 5:42 no that was 89 oh crap or it came out in ' 89 it was in LA battling criminals in 5:47 LA lethal Weapon yes okay intense psychological 5:54 thriller about an affair that Fatal Attraction yes good you're 6:01 good let's see what Can I give you a hint that won't give it away it's a 6:06 prohibition era crime saga the Untouchables yes last 6:12 one supernatural romantic comedy three women 6:20 dabbling in witchcraft oh um is it the share yes um with Jack the Witches of 6:28 Eastwick yes very good very good very good Jared the hints are too easy i I I 6:35 need to find harder hints but yeah you did very well well I you know what i probably would not have landed on those 6:41 had it not been for your help let's spin it again okay 6:51 pages of the past interesting uhhuh i'm trying to find one that's not so easy 6:58 are is this about books mhm what or magazines okay book back to the 7:03 bookshelf pages of the past okay which early young adult horror 7:08 books by RL Stein goosebumps yes very good very good let 7:15 me do another one i Which satirical magazine still going strong in 1988 7:21 continued to feature Alfred E newman with sharpwitted humor mad Magazine i 7:28 wouldn't have got that one so very good yeah I wouldn't I'm unfamiliar with it okay i used to to read it on a kid okay 7:36 all right let's spin another one 7:42 return to ton time oh 7:48 oh there's so many okay which trio of high-pitched musical rodents continued 7:54 their antics in 1988 we're the chipmunks 8:01 coming on stronger than ever before where the 8:06 chipmunks Theodore oh yeah you're good yeah alvin and the Chipmunks yep okay i 8:13 We'll do this this one more which mischievous orange cat battled dog 8:18 catchers and rival cats in 1988 is it Heathcliffe 8:24 and Yes it's Heath Cliff and Marmaduke 8:30 well that was the Marmaduke was the dog but Heath Cliff okay Heath Cliff but 8:37 this cartoon if you remember it was like the first half was Heath Cliff and then 8:42 the second half was like another group of they were called something else do 8:47 you remember second half was like these raga muffin 8:53 cats do you remember i don't remember this i remember Heath Cliff and 8:58 Marmaduke that was the what I remember but together well they they sort of had 9:05 a an hour like Heath Cliff had 30 and Marmaduke had 30 but I guess they they 9:10 ditched Marmaduke at some point for these other cats you're talking No no it was just within the Heathcliffe half 9:16 hour it was split oh well I don't remember this i'm stumped it was 9:22 Heathcliffe and the Cadillac Cats remember there was one cat that had like a like a newsy boy hat on with a cane 9:31 and a scarf and they rode in like a like a 57 Chevy type car 9:39 man I have no memory of this 9:44 [Music] how do you plan on getting us to the 9:49 city trust me hurry up you guys ow look 9:54 out [Music] 10:03 now what now we need a lot of hot air to blow it up yeah [ __ ] some hot air 10:15 [Music] 10:30 heath Cliff and the Cadillac Cats who remembers this okay we'll spin it one more time 10:36 we'll get another another category oh this will be an easy one 10:44 prime Time Rewind okay they're not very tough these are the top prime time shows in 10:52 1988 do you have any answers before I start with the clues yes okay i'm going 10:58 to say Cosby Show cheers family Ties 11:06 not Family Ties oh not Family Ties 88 i think Family T i don't know i think it 11:11 might Family Ties was still going was it okay well it wasn't in the top anymore dang but you have Cheers Cosby Show 11:19 cheers Cosby Show may an 11:26 88 the A team i don't I'm standing firm on Cosby 11:32 Show and Cheers yes okay the other ones we have the central character is brash 11:37 sarcastic and an unfiltered view of life 11:43 fresh sarcastic and an unfiltered view of biting humor so like the touchton tone for the show is it's biting humor 11:50 and unvarnished look at everyday struggles balancing family 11:57 dynamics if I'm trying to I'm purposefully being a little vague 12:05 blue collar roots oh Roseanne yes yes Roseanne and another one is a 12:11 college-based spin-off from a beloved sitcom this was a different world mhm 12:19 one of them is not a sitcom it's a news program uh 60 Minutes 60 Minutes and the last 12:28 one one of my favorite shows of all time if you listen to the show Jared in 88 12:35 mhm if I give you a hint it'll give it away 12:41 dang it let me see oh God any hour long or 30 minute long 30 minutes 12:48 it's a sitcom really great chemistry among the cast super funny 12:55 well uh a famous sitcom in 1988 13:01 i'm trying to find a hint that won't give it away but let's see 13:06 it's women four women four oh the Golden Girls yes 13:12 yes the Golden Girls yes okay all right all right well that's 13:19 enough of the time capsule well how old were you how old were 13:24 That's That's a tacky question in 88 i was seven wow okay i was 13 13:32 okay so Gotcha yeah you watching The Golden Girls at 7 yeah i mean I was 13:38 watching any of these shows i mean I probably also watch cuz it's been on in 13:43 syndication forever too so yeah yeah that's true yeah i mean really a lot of 13:48 the stuff that I cover on RetroAde I caught it later than its original 13:54 release gotcha all right so I'm doing a whole season about John Hughes the 14:00 director the writer i mean pretty much a quintessential '8s 14:07 presence in in a lot of teen kid centered films he came to my I 14:16 came to John Hughes through Ferris Beller okay that was that was my first exposure 14:23 and Ferris Beller was one of those that that was a VHS staple i think I recorded 14:30 it off of HBO i just wore that VHS tape 14:35 out i don't I I think I It wasn't until later maybe into the '9s when I would 14:43 start to see his name pop up and be like "Oh crap." Well and Home Alone Mhm and 14:50 and things and Christmas Vacation and things like that where I was like "Oh 14:55 wow this guy did a lot more than just Ferris Buer and but he he is he de he 15:02 there's a he has a distinct flavor John Hughes and it's it's it speaks to I think it 15:10 speaks to Gen X a lot sort of cuz Ferris Buer was sort of central in my my 15:19 childhood and teenage years as something to try to emulate 15:25 But yeah but I I don't think it was it was until later that I I realized sort 15:30 of the impact that he had and how much he was actually involved with so but 15:36 yeah definitely just quintessential 1980s writer 15:42 same i don't think I realized until later that he was kind of the mastermind behind all of these movies that I loved 15:47 and you're you're very you're spot on when you say he there's a certain flavor 15:54 you know that that with John Hughes mentioning Ferris Beller is that your is that your favorite John Hughes movie i 16:01 would have to say Ferris Buer probably is my my my favorite John Hughes and I 16:07 know that he he wrote and directed that one and but of so many of these he just 16:14 wrote he did not he didn't direct but they they all sort of feel similar like 16:20 maybe he could have directed in some cases it was just a matter of a time 16:26 conflict so he needed so he and then there are themes there are he's worked with the same director for a handful of 16:33 films so there's there's some themes in that way well so speaking of which the 16:38 great outdoors is the movie we're discussing today and it was not directed by John Hughes so let's get into the 16:45 great outdoors [Music] 16:51 let's do it june 17th 1988 16:57 PG it's an let's see it's a 6.6 which is lower than the other ones we've covered 17:02 so far on season 2 but still still very good obviously written by John Hughes he 17:09 actually I was mentioning he had intended to direct it but scheduling conflicts uh didn't allow for that and 17:16 this is he teamed up with Howard Deutsch am I saying that right is it Howard yeah 17:24 i mean that's how I would pronounce it okay and this was the third and final film that was written by John Hughes and 17:30 directed by Howard Deutsch do you know what the other two were well was one of them 16 candles 17:38 no he John Hughes No he directed that one but it's in a similar vein they're 17:44 both teen teen movies 17:49 I think i know but pretty pretty and pink pretty and pink and then some kind 17:54 of wonderful and then Okay and then this one which is interesting right yeah this 18:00 this seems like one of these things is not like the other indeed this might 18:05 surprise you Jared i had not seen this movie before i'm pretty sure what i know 18:11 i've heard I feel like I've maybe seen pieces of it but never the whole thing through it maybe wasn't one that ran a 18:17 lot on USA or TBS or something 18:23 well this the great outdoors for me 18:28 is is one we spoke offline earlier about my my buddy Allen who's going to come 18:34 see me very soon since this movie came out in theaters probably once a week for 18:41 the past 30 something years this movie is part of our lexicon 18:47 it's it's in our vocabulary i don't think a week goes by where we don't mention the old 18:52 96er or Oh I forgot about that one of the things we do all the time is there's 18:59 a little exchange between John Candy and Dan Akroyd in the movie where he goes "Was that a shot?" No that was the truth 19:07 that was a shot that was a shot we we we quote that back and forth to each other 19:14 all the time i love that and and it's so I would say actually of all the movies 19:20 even Ferris Buer I said was my favorite The Great Outdoors is a part of my 19:25 almost it's it's up here in my everyday life that I will just throw things like 19:32 that out like when they're the steak whenever I eat a steak I will say "Well there's nothing on left on that plate 19:38 but fat and grizzle." Like you they talk when they're eating the 96er and I think 19:44 that's why of when you ask me which movie I'd like to talk about pick the great outdoors because it's it's just 19:51 something that's and I haven't watched the movie sat down and watched it in probably 20 years but it always lives 19:57 here i love that i love I forgot about the Is that even Is it possible to 20:03 consume that amount that amount of food like the the steak scene that's that's insane you see people on YouTube of 20:11 course who consume massive amounts of food it's like a challenge that these 20:16 restaurants put out i think it's probably possible whether it's remotely good for you or healthy is 20:25 probably debatable i I think I don't know if it's even debatable no no it's 20:31 you you would be vomiting within an hour of consuming that but I think you could 20:36 probably be done i it looks like John Candy is a kind of guy who could have put that away if anyone yeah that's true 20:43 because there's competitive eaters i suppose they might yeah and there the guys who eat the hot dogs you know and 20:49 dip them in water and just go you know and hot dogs too another thing lips and 20:54 [ __ ] mhm that that's something else that every time I see a hot dog hey how 21:00 that's lips and [ __ ] right now do you eat hot dogs occasionally but but we 21:06 get the we get the good stuff we get like the the kosher ones the Hebrew nationals 21:12 yeah yeah yeah so that are made with the the finest cuts of beef mhm sure the 21:17 finest lips and [ __ ] yes exactly okay I got it got it so but yeah that's 21:23 again that's something else that just pops in my head every time I see a hot dog or something that is hilarious yeah 21:30 i don't recall ever having I'm sure I did but I don't recall ever having eaten 21:36 a hot dog oh my gosh now I know I know that you you are a vegetarian i'm vegan 21:42 actually vegan okay so I eat vegan hot dogs regularly oh yeah yeah now I've had 21:47 my share of those cuz my my wife she likes the the vegan sausage links 21:53 Morning Star stuff and that kind of stuff but it's I don't know i don't do 21:58 Do plants have lips and [ __ ] because that's kind of what it tastes like to me when I have one of those oh well depends 22:06 they're not all created equal and yeah I think the fixings kind of make it 22:12 but actually I do recall as a child eating corn dogs okay so anytime a 22:19 restaurant has a vegan corn dog I will order it because it's like And we used to get those when my daughter was 22:25 smaller we get the vegan like corn dog pups they call them those are so good 22:30 yeah yeah they're just like the little bite-sized corn dogs yep yeah no those were good i I would sit down and eat a 22:36 plate full of those things but Yeah hot dogs man well the So I hadn't seen The 22:45 Great Outdoors all the way through jared clearly has even though it's been 20 years but for the rest of you it's 22:52 possible you haven't seen it or if it's been 20 plus years for you it follows 22:57 Cadet Ripley played by John Candy a loving family man eager for a peaceful 23:03 lakeside vacation his plans are upended when his overbearing brother-in-law Roman Craig played by Dan Akroyd 23:10 unexpectedly arrives with his family as the two clash over their different lifestyles the trip turns into a series 23:17 of comedic disasters from water skiing mishaps to an infamous steak eatating 23:22 challenge that we just talked about and a showdown with a bald-headed bear through the chaos both families learn a 23:29 little about each other and themselves making for a hilarious and heartwarming 23:35 getaway the great outdoors what a great summary now I did notice that Dan Akroyd 23:42 was the first uh build over John Candy i don't think I realized 23:48 that yes he was was he a bigger at the time maybe well possibly i would say Candy and 23:55 Nackroyd were on very equal footing as far as the comedic stars i think 24:01 probably Akroyd had a great success with Ghostbusters but it would have been 24:06 years since Ghostbusters had come out at that point but maybe he just had a better agent maybe and negotiated top 24:12 billing so and by all accounts John Candy was a very sweet man who probably 24:19 wasn't going to fight anybody on it i was just going to say the same yeah um it's funny cuz we're just coming off of 24:25 Uncle Buck like last episode was Uncle Buck classic love Uncle Buck oh and it 24:31 was '89 this is 88 and I It was just It was wild for me to watch The Great 24:36 Outdoors where he's playing like literally the opposite character from Uncle Buck yeah he's he's the the the 24:43 family man and who wants to make his vacation per It's odd too that this this 24:49 movie is very it's very like National Lampoon's vacation adjacent it almost 24:56 could be a Clark Griswald adventure almost good point it's like that mixed with 25:03 what about Bob yeah right yeah like where you have the the the uninvited person that you don't want there who 25:09 comes crashing your vacation mhm but I got to thinking about that i was I was watching it last night i was like John 25:15 Hughes a year later we'd do another vacation movie with Christmas Vacation 25:20 and maybe he just maybe John Hughes just liked misadventures on vacation and this 25:29 was this was another adventure yeah there was a lot yeah cuz all the 25:34 lampoons movies this Uncle Buck is it's not really vacation but mishaps it's 25:41 either that or teen movies it's like one or the other seemingly yes yeah and and this is this movie actually I think it 25:47 has a little of both of those flavors good point because you cut away to the teen romance a lot which when I was a 25:56 kid I always thought kind of slowed things down and watching it again I was 26:01 like yeah it still kind of slows things down it kind You're you're right it you 26:08 know and it's interesting because I noticed so we'll get into the cast a little bit but so there's John Candy's 26:13 family has it's two boys right yes and one of them's name's Buck buck and Benny 26:21 benny benny yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're right b B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Buck and Benny Ripley and 26:27 Buck is the one that has they're in this this like vacation town this like resort type of town and so there's a towny that 26:34 he you know kind of falls for and the only I think I did have tension when he 26:40 keeps looking at his watch he's supposed to meet Cammy at 9 or something and 26:45 they're still waiting for John Candy to eat this gigantor steak and it's like 26:50 he's like "Oh my god I'm going to be late meeting Cammy and she's going to be mad." And I'm like "If only he had a phone to text her." Oh it would all be 26:59 cell phones would cell phones would ruin 90% of the movies that came out in the 27:05 80s these days indeed like you would just get around every particular every 27:11 conceivable plot point that you could if you had a cell phone in those movies like you could have just texted that 27:17 person sure hey yeah my dad's eating this giant steak i I I can't get out of 27:23 here so but yeah no cell phones he's going to payoneses throughout the film 27:29 and he has to show up at her job and be like "Where's Cammy?" and go find her in the wild you know what's funny about 27:35 Cammy is that as a teenager I always got sort of flipped her and Tia from Uncle 27:42 Buck like I would always transpose the two is that the same girl yeah yeah very 27:48 very similar good yeah they look very much similar yes yeah they do maybe John 27:54 Candy maybe that's his deal i don't know or not John Kenny john Hughes john Hughes yeah and even when I sat down to 28:00 watch this last night I was like was this the same girl from Uncle Buck wait and then pulling up IMDb immediately and 28:08 you're like oh okay well she looks a little different i mean but they are very similar looking they are well let's 28:13 see lucy Deakons is the the the woman who or girl at the time who played Cammy 28:20 she was the local girl and the A&W waitress um what I found very 28:26 interesting is that she is not an actress anymore i saw this she she was 28:32 most known aside from this movie she starred as Millie in The Boy Who Could Fly and she originated the role of Lily 28:41 Walsh on As the World Turns i've never seen that show but maybe you all have but she is now an attorney in Denver 28:50 holy cow yeah she it says partner in the Denver law firm Duning Deacons and 28:55 Gallera man maybe I run into her at the grocery store you should have gone and 29:01 grabbed her and said "Hey can you Yeah we're doing a great outdoors podcast." 29:06 So that's amazing yeah yeah so that's that's Lucy Deakons as Cammy she was 29:12 very cute i liked her i I liked her character yeah and she was when I was a 29:17 kid i was 13 when this came out and I saw it in the theater so that the the 29:24 Buck he was a little older than me but I did even though I thought the romance 29:29 kind of slowed things down i I I I related to him a little bit because I 29:35 was 13 and I was I liked girls a lot and did you know um and and I so I was I 29:44 would see him and be like I would think I remember thinking man I wonder if I could talk to a girl like that if we're 29:51 on vacation so and I was so I was kind of pulling for him but anyway I I don't 29:57 know where the heck I was going with that but Well it's ballsy like you're on vacation with your family and he's he 30:03 didn't want to hug it's kind of embarrassing when you're a teenager exactly and you I I felt I I could 30:11 relate to Buck in that moment where John Candy 30:16 where Chad's trying to hug his son and now I relate to that as a father because 30:21 my daughter's like "Dad don't be dumb don't be gross." I was like "I just want to give you a hug what's the problem?" 30:28 You're never too old for a hug no exactly and so it's funny how you know 30:34 the movies that you grow up with they they sort of change as the years go on 30:39 and you start to relate to other people like watching that movie last night I mean John Candy's probably was probably 30:46 younger than I am now when he made that mo 100% he was probably in his 30s yeah 30:51 and I'm watching that going I can relate to this wanting my daughter to enjoy 30:57 herself or that goofy scene at the beginning when he's trying to fool around with his wife and he's like "Hey 31:04 the kids are gone what we got the house to oursel come on what are you doing?" These are all things you think about 31:10 sometimes when you got kids running around but it's it's just funny how I 31:16 start especially having not watched it in so long how I was like "Holy crap I I 31:21 think I'm I think I'm Cadet Ripley right now i'm more Chad than anybody else in 31:27 this movie." Mhm so that's just one of those crazy things it is so Chad Chad's 31:34 John Candy chad Riley's John Candy dan Akroyd plays Roman Craig his brother-in-law yes we were talking about 31:40 Oh go ahead no I'm sorry i just And I I kept forgetting that John Candy's wife 31:46 and Annette Benning are sisters mhm that's how they're Yeah good point yeah and because the whole I even last night 31:52 watching I was like "Wait a second what how what is their relationship how are they Oh and but they don't really go 31:59 much into that they they share they share a few scenes where it's like okay 32:04 well they're they're talking sister stuff but for the most part the the focus is on John Candy and Dan Roy yeah 32:12 I even similar to you Jared when I was watching it because there was a scene where John Candy is explaining why he 32:18 picked going to this particular like lake resort in Wisconsin I think is where they are supposed to be and he's 32:25 like "Oh I came here with my dad." And I at first I said "Why is he saying my dad?" Cuz I thought they were brothers 32:32 or something you thought that that and Candy were brothers and then I'm like "Oh no no that's why he's saying my dad 32:39 and it's their spouses are related that's Yeah yeah correct so we were 32:45 talking about Buck he He's played by Chris Young 32:51 what's Chris Young up to these days well nothing past 1998 apparently he did 32:58 look kind of familiar to me he was in several apparently Max Hedram episodes 33:03 okay and a 1990 TV show called Married People but his he must just be a regular 33:11 regular dude maybe he's just like maybe he's hanging out with Lucy Deakons he might be there in Denver you never know 33:17 he he might still be following her around it's it's highly likely i think 33:22 Yeah so that is the older brother so John Candy Chad Ripley he's married 33:28 to Connie played by Stephanie Ferris mhm a lot of episodic TV shows um the other 33:37 movies she was in were Sideways and Temple Grandon she has a familiar face but I I didn't I was I wasn't like "Oh 33:45 she's in blah blah blah." I think she's This movie is the only thing I've seen her in okay and then we have the 33:52 beautiful Annette Benning playing Roman's wife Kate Craig yes and we all 33:58 know who Annette Benning is of course yeah that this was a kind of an early role for her I think it's a good point 34:05 this was before she was a net Benning yeah yeah it's funny cuz I really 34:12 noticed like she really is beautiful and for I think it I think when she goes on later to have shorter hair it throws me 34:18 off mhm and I I feel like she's been around longer than she has been maybe i 34:23 don't know yeah also very Annette Benning's character at times reminds me 34:29 a lot of Marcy from Uncle Buck lorie Metap's character yes yes yes oh really 34:35 i She She does i mean she's not as kind of weird as as Marcy is but I don't know 34:42 it there's a similar thing they both have dress nicely in nice clothes and everything and that's just something 34:49 that comes up because this is it's it's almost like you've got the the this this 34:55 candy series of years from Planes Trains and Automobiles to this to Uncle Buck to 35:02 Home Alone it's it's follows this this trajectory and sometimes I transpose 35:08 characters from these movies yeah that totally makes sense yeah and I can see that like rich lady clothes she They all 35:14 have matching Louis Vuitton luggage and bags when they show up in the Mercedes yes yeah it's like clearly 35:22 and then it's like rich people food yeah with the lobster tails instead of the hot dogs and and goat cheese pizza that 35:30 must have been like He was Yes he's like "What what what did you say?" He goes 35:36 "No we're just having pizza it's pizza." No you said something else is it goat pizza what is 35:41 this so that was that's always love it but don't you remember that being like on fancy menus like a goat cheese in 35:49 things like that must be rich people food from the8s yeah goat cheese man 35:54 they have that and gray pupon come on yes yes okay so there's two sons that 36:02 the Ripleys have the younger one Benny is he played Zach in Girls Just Want to 36:09 Have Fun and then he was in a lot of oneoff episodes of pop like popular TV shows but just like a one-off character 36:16 and his name is Ian Giotti yeah he's kind of a hottie now is he i look it up 36:23 i saw him on IMDb and I was like "Well this is this guy's kind of handsome looking." And then and then I then I saw 36:30 who it was i was like "Holy crap that's the little brother." Let me see on IMDb 36:35 his picture is He looks pretty nice i It looks like Oh yeah he does you 36:42 He's like a male model looking guy you know what it is it's I think he must be Italian and I have a thing for the 36:49 Italians g yeah he's got that thing yeah he's definitely Italian durk yeah you're right i'm going to have 36:56 to find him in some stuff maybe he's in Denver too maybe maybe and then the then 37:03 the spooky redheaded twin daughters of Roman and and Kate her 37:12 name's Kate roman and Kate they are they they go out of their way 37:19 to make them really weird they per They do they do cuz like in and of themselves 37:24 they're like they're like cute kids but but they the way they act and the way 37:30 everybody reacts to them it's like "Oh these little kids are strange." When 37:35 Chad's like freaked out by him and the two sons don't really like their cousins very much they're just Well even then 37:41 their own father is weirded out by them yeah yeah he does that's that's part of the his his arc in the movie is that 37:48 he's he's always he's an absentee father he doesn't really get involved with them 37:53 so it's it's it's really strange I think are they are they still acting no they 38:01 only did one other thing so they are identical twins uh Hillary and Rebecca Gordon play Cara and Mara or is it Cara 38:09 and Mara craig either way okay same same difference well I because I feel like in 38:16 one instance he said Cara and in another instance he said Cara so I'm not sure 38:21 that he probably did they're just like well you know they did uh the mosqu the 38:27 mosquito coast from uh 1986 which I have no idea what that is that's a it's a 38:34 Harrison Ford movie oh the mosquito coast it has Harrison Ford and River 38:39 Phoenix in it really how have I not seen that no it's it's a pretty good movie 38:44 check it out sometime we have Wall-E and Wanita they are the 38:50 co-owners of Wall-E and Wanita's Perks Pine Lodge Resort yes funny funny 38:55 characters yeah they are super funny so Robert Proski plays Wall-E and did you 39:01 ever watch the show Veronica's Closet with Kirsty Ali no but I but you're aware of it yes and 39:09 I've seen that actor in a ton of things i don't remember who actually now I 39:15 think I can so he played a character called Pat on Veronica's Closet he was the judge in the 94 version of Miracle 39:23 on 34th Street he was in Mrs doubtfire he was Sergeant Jablonsky on Hill Street 39:29 Blues which I've not seen that show but that must be He must have been a regular 39:34 on that show yeah he's he's had a he had a career that went back decades he was 39:40 in you He even pops up i mean he's he's in a lot of those old like black and white TV shows from like the 60s and 39:47 stuff robert Proski all right just one of those faces those character actors 39:53 who pops up in everywhere i like it uh Wanita is played 40:01 by Zoan zuan Zuan z O A U N E loy or Leroy 40:12 i'm making it French i don't know that's quite a name i apologize miss Loy 40:17 she's not very well known yeah I don't I didn't really recognize her from anything she seems to play a waitress or 40:24 a nurse in like random t like one just like an episode here and there of TV 40:30 show and it's seemingly like a waitress or a nurse a lot okay so that's her 40:35 gotcha we talked about Lucy Deakons in Denver and then there was the the waitress with the 96 40:42 uh the 90 the old 96er the waitress at that lodge is Nancy 40:48 Lennahan okay she's very familiar did Didn't you think she was recognizable 40:53 did you recognize Nothing Nothing immediately jumped out at at me but I I 40:59 don't know she's probably been in other things I've seen i'm sure she is kind of one of those character actresses she's 41:06 been in a lot of TV she was most recently in Bless This Mess TV show VEP 41:13 My Name is Earl People of Earth Grace Under Fire so she was had pretty decent 41:19 sized parts in all of those shows gotcha yeah music by Thomas Newman 41:27 what did you think thomas Newman it was I think it was appropriate for what 41:33 where it was used i know they used a lot of like songs and stuff in this movie 41:38 but the score was the score sort of reacted to the sort of the goofiness that was going on i think it would I 41:45 think it did what was required of it but I I wouldn't say it's a classic film score by any stretch but it was it was 41:53 fine i I think I agree like I I definitely you you all know who Thomas 41:59 Newman is like he scored like The Green Mile American Beauty Cinderella Man The 42:06 Shaw Shank Redemption and Finding Nemo and then The Great Outdoors yeah crazy mhm one of the 42:14 Newman brothers David Newman is also a composer oh and uh what did he what is 42:21 he known for david Newman oh goodness no that's okay i would have to look it up but they they they are brothers and they 42:29 are quite quite prolific um and still still composing film scores as far as 42:35 I'm I'm aware oh good so I'm glad that they're alive and well that's good to 42:40 know yeah they are very good $24 million to make this and it 42:49 grossed 43.5 million 42:55 which I'm not sure so I was reading that it this was the 25th biggest film at the 43:00 American box office for that year okay 43:06 which doesn't seem to 40 43.5 million that doesn't seem to go does it that's 43:12 That's not That's not a huge That's not a huge take you know it didn't even double its money that's what I thought 43:19 so I don't know i do know that this film is one of those films that took off on VHS 43:25 like once it hit once it hit the video rental stores people discovered it and I 43:32 think it's because of the video stores that this this movie has become some 43:37 somewhat beloved by people you're absolutely right it was panned by critics but Yes of course but you're 43:44 you're right over over the years it's become more beloved yeah all right you had mentioned some of your history 43:51 with this that you you speak in the great outdoors yes versus how was it revisiting it 43:57 yesterday it was fantastic i the I was I 44:02 was laughing at out loud at parts of it and in parts that I didn't really necessarily remember and aren't burned 44:08 into my brain but just like some of the stuff Akoid was doing like when when he 44:14 he's telling the bear story and and and then he he goes "Oh Jesus Christ I'm 20 44:22 lb overweight are you trying?" He goes "I'm half drunk here what are you trying to do kill me?" 44:28 It's just I can hear like maybe one of my uncles saying that it It's just I I 44:34 don't know why that that made me laugh so much but a lot of the stuff Akoid was doing I thought was really funny and and 44:42 then too John Candy just like when he's he's just exhausted like when he his he 44:49 the horse runs away from him and he's trudging through the woods and he comes he's all red and sweaty and he's just 44:58 like I I don't know that stuff was just cracking me up and then of course it's 45:04 the the greatest hits the stuff that lives in my head always it was fun to to see that and I was like watching him eat 45:12 that steak and I'm like "Oh he's he's trying to do it in small bites." The bites were really small and I was like 45:18 "Well that's probably the the smart way if you're going to try to do something like that that's probably the way you 45:24 should try to do it." But eating an elephant one small bite at a time yeah 45:29 exactly just a little bit and then I I had a good time and I actually I put it back on this morning 45:36 as I was just sort of walking around doing stuff around the house and I don't know it was it's com it's comfortable it 45:41 was like it was like putting an old comfortable jacket on cuz it's like so much stuff I remembered but like I said 45:47 those bits that were sticking out to me that did not before just reacting to it as a as now as an 45:55 adult with with a kid of my own and and sort of seeing it through that lens now 46:01 it was interesting and for me it it it holds up i mean it's it's definitely 46:06 it's '8s and like I said the uh I think that the the teenage story sometimes 46:12 bogs it down a little bit cuz I I was thinking last night I like okay let's get back to Candy and Acroy but very 46:19 slapstick and goofy especially the stuff with the bear towards the end but for 46:24 the most part I was like yeah I I still really enjoy this there was things in it 46:31 that I was wondering about they they they call it the bear dump where they just go watch bears rifle through 46:38 garbage i forgot about that that's And I was like I was like is this a thing is 46:44 this a real thing that people do and I couldn't help but but wonder do people 46:50 do this at like campsites like they just go to where the trash is and watch the bears root through it there were several 46:56 instances where it's unrealistic in so many ways like when the bear breaks the door down and is on top of John Candy 47:03 who's keeps pushing him i'm like that would kill him like in real life right but it looked like there was a stunt man 47:09 under there yeah i don't know so I How did they pull that off speaking of the 47:14 bear it's Bart the Bear it is that's your Legends of the Fall bear mhm mhm that's uh I thought of that because I 47:21 listened to your and and Ryan's show that you did about Legends of the Fall on his 47:28 Edix show so check that out guys so I I was going to bring that up because that 47:35 is the bear from Legends of the Fall he was like a the bear of my childhood bart 47:40 was in a lot of things i remember him being in various movies i don't know 47:45 bart the Bear was like a big hit well I guess if you need a trained grizzly bear 47:50 I mean that's a pretty niche just you go to those people like "Hey I 47:57 need a grizzly bear for this film and I don't want to die trying to film with a wild one." So what's Bard doing well yes 48:04 okay so the so I don't know where I was going with that other than there are a lot of things with this that aren't actually realistic in and I don't know 48:11 how things were in the 80s but nowadays there would be clear signs do 48:17 not feed the wildlife don't leave trash out like there your the bear will rip 48:22 your car door off to get food inside do not interact with the bears in any way 48:28 yes and yet they they people go to a field to watch bears rifle through 48:34 garbage and John Candy's throwing candy bars at him come here Bear come here he 48:40 goes "What do we got we got a Zagn nut here." It's just oh man that's ridiculous it is 48:47 and one thing I wondered about Bart they obviously had to put like that makeup 48:52 appliance on his forehead because he's he's bald like right above his eyes and 48:59 his nose and that's what I was looking at going man how the heck did did they 49:06 get that on him and and how does it stay on him what what do they do i mean he's 49:11 not they're not sitting Bart in a makeup chair and saying "Okay let's just put 49:17 this appliance on your forehead buddy let's see how this works." Well he must be exceptionally well trained maybe he I 49:25 guess I would not I would not want to be putting makeup appliances on Bart's head 49:30 or on his backside i don't think animals like you messing with their backsides that's true but even a dog might bite 49:37 you you know oh yeah exactly and he had that big old giant bear ass 49:43 bear his bear's bear ass that big old butt when he got shot again by John 49:51 Candy with the birdshot buckshot i don't know some kind of with a It was a lamp 49:57 he picked up the lamp remember the the lamp was the shotgun 50:02 and and apparently it was loaded of course mhm even though it was a functioning lamp the the owner the 50:09 coowner of this this little resort um Oh and their dog too had porcupine needles 50:16 oh needles all in its face i kind of forgot about the quirky and they're like 50:22 "Oh have you ever given your dog a bath before?" Like they have to drive in the car with their dog they're like "Hey she 50:28 loves porcupines but hates humans and she's an eight too bad you're not a 50:33 dog." That reminds me of when he goes up to the to the counter and that there's that 50:39 horn it says "Blow me for service." Yeah yeah forgot about that yeah he goes He's 50:44 like "Hey blow me for service." Oh that's interesting and then the whole thing about putting your mouth on this 50:50 horn that's hanging there that other people have sure it's like "Hey who 50:56 cares yeah let's do this." And then he he gives it a good old he bellows into it and disturbs the whole place but I I 51:03 thought that was funny one of my favorite parts actually was the opening scene it was so like 51:10 classic8s like the contrasting drives to this this cabin 51:17 of the families even the music was contrasting i I I quite liked that maybe 51:23 one of my favorite parts actually they're singing yakity yak when which it 51:28 sort of goes to you go a year later in chvy chases they're singing Christmas 51:33 carols as they're driving and and the wagon earer it was very reminiscent of 51:40 the wood grain station wagon in exactly vacation yeah yes and at some points of 51:46 the movie you almost could literally swap out Chad with Clark Griswald it 51:52 seems like but I I do remember that I I watched this on 51:58 VHS for years with my parents cuz my mom loves John K and every time she would 52:04 watch this scene she'd be like "Oh that's your dad." Cuz my dad would like to sing and stuff when he was driving 52:10 and try to get the everybody involved and everybody's just sort of like "Okay." Although in this movie the 52:17 kids were everybody seemed to be having a good time when they're singing along with with the song but that's what 52:24 that's a memory I have is that my mom would just always laugh uncontrollably at John Candy doing this stuff a and um 52:33 and to this date my dad still sometimes will go big bear big bear big bear like 52:39 at the end when he's all out of breath and he's trying to explain what was going on there sometimes my dad will 52:44 just do that randomly well your whole family has has the great outdoors you speak in the great outdoors yes exactly 52:51 that's that's just it's one of those just through lines through my family i guess everybody likes the great outdoors 52:58 that was another scene where if only they had a phone that would have eliminated the need for the scene when 53:06 the girls the weird redheaded girls get stuck in a in a mine mine and John Candy 53:12 goes to get help while Roman like actually be finally steps up to the 53:18 plate and he's the hero but then he's like "Oh okay we're just going to go back to the cabin." But he doesn't john 53:24 Candy doesn't know that and he comes back he's out getting the ropes and stuff and the bears down there so yeah 53:31 if only Roman could have texted him and be like "I got him we're headed back." Yeah exactly again you wouldn't have a 53:37 movie at that point but yeah that was that was funny and how I'm not sure that 53:43 an abandoned mineshaft full of dynamite would be just sort of 53:49 so accessible like with with the the crappy little three pieces of wood they 53:55 had over the covering of it do not enter yeah do not enter oh gosh and how did the bear get down there and up 54:03 yeah well the the bear got up with the rope the chat pulled him up and because he's Oh go Jesus roman can you help me 54:10 out here i watched this two weeks ago that's why I'm like "Oh yeah that's right." But how did he Yeah oh wild yeah 54:16 but I actually I did some some research or I Googled it while the movie was 54:22 playing because Dan Akroyd was seem he was very concerned that it was old wet 54:27 dynamite and apparently old wet dynamite is extremely dangerous really yes i 54:35 wouldn't have guessed that wet dynamite would be yeah and and it was even like the the movie was scientifically 54:41 accurate because if you noticed on the dynamite boxes a lot of them had these 54:47 crystals it looked like salt on the outside of them and that's where the dynamite sweats and that's nitroglycerin 54:54 oh and that's what happens when dynamite gets when when dynamite is aged and gets 55:02 wet ah and it starts to sweat like that and it is incredibly volatile in that 55:08 state and I would wager to say everything that Dan Akroyd was doing 55:13 down there like moving around they they would have been blown to pieces just because there was a lot of 55:21 old wet dynamite down there and apparently you can't even you can barely jostle it and it would just explode so I 55:29 mean that tracks for the great outdoors with the all the things that happened with the bear and completely Oh the skis 55:35 oh that that skiing scene is hilarious i know how bad it is no meaning like I I 55:43 mean I don't know if they were like who cares because the stunt person was a very clearly a very skinny guy yeah he 55:52 was so obviously not he was like the opposite of John Candy well could you imagine John Candy on those skis today 55:59 now today's technology they could have made that happen probably but yeah back then it's obviously 56:06 a skinny water skier who's in good shape maybe wearing a couple of extra layers of clothes like his jack the jacket yeah 56:14 they try to bulk him up a little bit but you know you look at his legs it's like that guy he's in shape he knows what 56:20 he's doing that's not And it went on and on and on and on it just kept going but 56:27 one thing that made me laugh out loud last night was he was like calling Roman a bastard and they thought he was saying 56:34 go faster oh yeah yeah he was like "You bastard you bastard." And his wife's 56:40 like "He says go faster faster." He goes "Okay let's do it." So that made me 56:47 crazy did you recognize the guy again I don't know what the purpose of this character 56:53 was the guy who gets hit by lightning multiple times at the bar he's like the stuttering guy with 57:03 Did well I I was like that what was the purpose of him being in this movie aside 57:09 from maybe to tell him there was a storm coming I guess cuz you know he's running through the woods and he gets struck 57:15 again by lightning i did smile though because did you recognize him from 57:21 another John Hughes movie well now you've got me thinking 57:28 immediately when I saw him I was like "Oh my god it's Gary's dad from Weird 57:33 Science." Holy crap it is mhm maybe it's the pair that I recognize oh crap wow there you 57:42 go so maybe it was just like a They wanted to make a role for him to be in this movie sure come on in be the guy 57:48 who gets struck by lightning all the time i quite enjoyed the raccoons through 57:54 line with the the subtitles yeah that was actually very good did you watch it 58:00 it was and even I let it run all the way through to the There was a postredit 58:07 scene with the raccoons oh no kidding i just watched it through the dance sequence i didn't there there was a 58:13 raccoon scene at the end i can't even remember what it was there was a a final 58:19 postredit raccoon scene wow and that that kind of stuff was absolutely rare 58:25 back in those days i mean now they do it all the time but a postredit scene in 58:30 1988 is unheard of yeah that's a good point i'm trying to think if there were any so now because 58:38 of that I'm like well I better let the credits roll and watch till the very very very end for the rest of the well 58:45 in another John Hughes film Ferris Buer had had another scene at the very end 58:52 where Ferris walks out and goes you're still here he goes it's over 58:59 the movie's over go home and but with Ferris there was a whole scene that 59:06 played throughout the credits with the the principal getting on the bus and it 59:12 and that played throughout the whole thing so it was you would have sat there and probably watched it and not just be 59:18 watching credit scroll on a screen but yeah maybe that was just a huge thing hey yeah we'll just put something a 59:24 little extra in here a little wink for people who stuck around and I very much appreciated it well I'm now I'm going to 59:31 go watch it after we're done here to see what was they said well he also another 59:36 thing he uses the same names we have Chat here we also have a chat in 59:44 Weird Science correct buck buck here buck and Uncle Buck what's the story 59:50 John Hughes you just like this you just like chat and Buck i guess so or maybe he just gets into a 59:57 gets into a creative rut and he's like "Okay well this guy can be buck what the heck who cares?" I mean unless he like 1:00:04 in real life unless it's a nod to people he knows or something in real life that makes sense to me i think maybe maybe 1:00:12 that's that that could be part of it that he would just put maybe his buddies 1:00:17 names into his own movies just as a nod maybe 1:00:23 do you remember when you first watched this movie did you track immediately did 1:00:29 you predict that Roman was broke when you were a kid well at at 1:00:36 13 I saw this in the theater so I didn't that I wasn't picking up on that of 1:00:44 course I I wasn't reading too much into it so I didn't really see it coming but 1:00:50 watching it now if I think they drop a couple of breadcrumbs that you can say 1:00:56 well something's not adding up with Roman and so yeah it's a little more 1:01:02 obvious to me now as an adult watching it but as a kid I didn't I didn't have any idea that does make sense i just had 1:01:10 the you know I because I've only seen it as an adult I saw it coming a mile away because they did to your point they gave 1:01:16 us breadcrumbs but um yeah I was but I was like the whole time I'm like how are 1:01:21 they going to resolve it how is this going to come up so yeah yeah that was well one thing I did forget when when 1:01:27 Dan Akroyd tells him that story about how he was heard him overheard him in the bathroom on his wedding day saying 1:01:35 that Roman is one crooked son of a [ __ ] and I had forgotten I guess that he made 1:01:42 that up mhm because I just assumed I I totally forgot in the movie that later 1:01:47 he confessed to just making that up and that didn't happen at all but I think for a long time I just thought "Oh yeah 1:01:54 I guess John Candy just lost his patience completely and he could have certainly said something like that." But 1:02:01 you know last night I think was the first time I realized that oh wait he didn't say that mhm it did seem out of 1:02:09 character like what we're shown in the movie chad is like such a nice like a 1:02:15 good-hearted person that you're like that seems odd but well he Chad he he he 1:02:20 can be pushed and and I think we saw him at his lowest i want him out of here he 1:02:26 is ruining everything he's a jerk i don't like this and it just I I think 1:02:33 for for most of the time he handled it remarkably well if you just had somebody who you were like "Oh gosh you know that 1:02:41 whatever friend you have who you're just you need a break from." Mhm and then all of a sudden they're like "Hey we're 1:02:48 going to hang out all week." You'd be like "That's great." I would Oh I would 1:02:54 have been so pissed cuz it was they didn't know it was an unannounced visit 1:03:00 and he had very carefully picked this place for a week and then it's your like 1:03:06 in-law brother that you don't like anyway yeah oh it'd be hard to keep your 1:03:11 mouth shut in that scenario absolutely but he held it together pretty well throughout most of the film i mean when 1:03:19 when he first shows up videotaping with the giant camcorder on his shoulder of 1:03:26 Jen undressing undressing his wife it's like okay that's that probably would 1:03:32 have been it for me but it's it's one of those things even back then seeing it as 1:03:38 a kid I could relate to oh gosh that would be the worst if somebody you didn't like showed up to just ruin your 1:03:44 vacation mhm so and not to mention the fact that he kept changing everything he 1:03:50 got a jetboat instead of the pontoon boat that's right and he he wanted and 1:03:56 his sons would rather hang out with Uncle Roman than him and and all this stuff so just a just a nightmare 1:04:04 scenario they both played their parts very well 1:04:09 and I think Annette Benning played Yeah I I really think that the even the kids 1:04:14 were all right but particularly the adult actors really I think played the 1:04:23 family dynamics like just little things I picked up i was like "Oh that seems pretty realistic." Yes yes i I thought 1:04:31 everybody did a great job and I I sort of I liked Acroyd was he was definitely 1:04:37 attempting some certain way of speaking like really yeah that's right not that he talks like that but just sort of this 1:04:44 obnoxious Yeah [ __ ] that's I got to go introduce Mr thick Dick to Mr ural Cake 1:04:51 you know you That's a pretty good impression yeah well it's what is it like like 1:04:58 shyer stock broker accent just sort of like a a car salesman type of guy yeah 1:05:04 he's already going to talk like this but and then John Candy is he's pretty much 1:05:09 I mean John Candy has a he has kind of a baseline and he he turns it up a little 1:05:15 bit this way for Uncle Buck when he he has to be completely clueless and a goofball but then he does have sort of 1:05:21 like the family man Clark Griswald persona right where he he's sort of this put upon person and and he he amps and 1:05:30 he goes the he goes kind of a different way with it although I think his character in Planes Trains and 1:05:35 Automobiles is a little more like Buck than than his than his character in 1:05:41 Great Outdoors definitely definitely yeah although his character in Plains 1:05:46 has more of a sad story than than Buck who's sort of a loser by choice and and 1:05:54 his character in Plains is is he's he's really trying to to be a better guy but 1:06:01 True but both like have a bit of a lack of self-awareness oh 100% 1:06:08 yeah and but in this movie he's sort of he's he's very he's very even keeled i 1:06:13 think he's the straight man in this movie which at first I because I hadn't 1:06:19 seen this and when I was doing the research for this I was like "Oh Dan Akoid is playing the Bill Murray Bob." I 1:06:27 guess I I don't know why cuz I had just seen Uncle Buck is probably why and so I was like "Oh interesting." Yeah yeah 1:06:35 that's that's pretty crazy and it's all like I said sometimes that's why I interchange characters and attributes 1:06:42 because all these movies happened within a 4-year span it's like yeah you're 1:06:49 right and even it's sort of like the casting is just they're kind of interchangeable to I was reading that 1:06:56 both Chvy Chase and Bill Murray were considered for the part of Roman 1:07:01 yes yes chvy Chase was shooting another Funny Farm which are very similar movies 1:07:07 that came out two weeks apart in June of 1988 funny Farm in the Great Outdoors 1:07:12 isn't that that's wild and all with this pool of actors who who all sort of 1:07:17 intermingle in other movies too so it's it's easy to that's why I get this era 1:07:23 confused a lot because it's Chvy Chase Akroyd Bill Murray John Candy they're 1:07:29 They're all sort of weaving in and out of each other's orbits at this time they 1:07:35 are they are i was also reading that this only it was a three-w weekek production shoot which seems very small 1:07:42 like short right very short goodness gracious i mean I don't know a lot about movie making movie making but I was kind 1:07:48 of surprised by that well they definitely shot a lot of it on a lot of it seems well I mean the indoor stuff I 1:07:55 guess that could have been on that was probably on a stage obviously but Mhm they were out in this place in 1:08:01 California that they were shooting yeah and John Hughes I always think John 1:08:07 Hughes does confuse sort of the geography of the places that he's he's shooting because I 1:08:16 think to me the place they are looks very much like a California wilderness with with the 1:08:23 mountains and all the the big trees and everything now in Wisconsin does have 1:08:29 mountains but they're not as pronounced as what you see in the great outdoors 1:08:34 and it's the same with the beginning of National Lampoon's Vacation they're they're supposed to be in Illinois 1:08:40 somewhere illinois has no mountains whatsoever it's like all farmland and 1:08:45 they're they're driving around looking for their Christmas tree in these this this mountainous wilderness which they 1:08:52 actually shot up around Winter Park in Colorado oh interesting okay so there 1:08:58 there's John Hughes likes to substitute a lot of these these very mountainous 1:09:03 areas but he wants his people in Chicago to be able to commute to them easily so 1:09:09 he he just he gives the geography those attributes yeah and the raccoons i love 1:09:14 one of the parts I think my love for Chicago is rooted in John Hughes from my 1:09:20 childhood because I I absolutely love the city of Chicago which is why I think partially I thought it was funny that 1:09:26 the raccoons were like "Oh we're going to be eating good tonight the license plate says Illinois if they're from Chicago." Yeah yeah we got Illinois 1:09:33 plates and I I Me too when I was uh 20 when I was 20 in 95 me and my buddy 1:09:40 Allan the guys I' I've talked about before and another buddy of mine Josh we 1:09:46 we we went to Chicago and we're going to do the the Ferris Buer tour we just went 1:09:51 up there for 4 days and we and we were also big fans of the Fugitive movie with 1:09:56 Harrison Ford and and a lot of that's in Chicago is it i haven't seen it in a long time so we picked these locations 1:10:03 from The Fugitive and Ferris Buer and we walked around we went to Wrigley Field 1:10:08 and watched some Cubs games and just had a blast and that's mostly because of 1:10:15 Ferris Buer's day off and and it's funny that John Hughes his movies and it's 1:10:22 funny that these characters in the great outdoors they you never see them in Chicago but 1:10:28 they're from Chicago mhm they very purposefully show us the license plates 1:10:34 yes so I think he has a great affection for for the the city of Chicago that 1:10:41 even if his characters aren't going to be there they're going to be some connection back to Chicago mhm it's it's 1:10:47 his trademark absolutely yeah you you pointed out that they actually shot in California the 1:10:54 movie setting is a fictional place lake Pawatada Manak it's like really long 1:11:02 it's it's it's strictly for laughs yeah it is I think but it's shot in Bass Lake 1:11:08 was where they were in California and according to the locals some said 1:11:13 that Annette Benning was kind of demanding i read that as well that Dan 1:11:18 Akroyd was mostly polite but very aloof and kind of difficult to the actual 1:11:24 town's people uhhuh but big shocker John Candy has a reputation for being very 1:11:30 approachable friendly in real life and gotten along very well with everyone and the town's people said he was a joy to 1:11:36 work with so that was good to hear yeah he he seems like a a teddy bear mhm m 1:11:41 and it's good to hear that people would that people had that experience with him 1:11:46 cuz that's sort of how you picture him in your head if I ever met John Candy I would hope he would be nice to me mhm 1:11:53 and it sounds like that's the way he was yeah i'm very happy to hear that's cool 1:11:59 the original title I guess was Big Country big Country what do you think about that 1:12:08 i think the great outdoors is a much better title of course that's what I've lived with for 30 plus years so I like 1:12:15 the the great outdoors yeah I think I agree with you big Country could sounds like it could 1:12:21 be a western or something yeah or like a something about like country music star 1:12:26 or something like that yeah exactly yeah yeah you're right you're right 1:12:31 i think The Great Outdoors is is a perfect name for this film thanks to Jared for joining me to reminisce about 1:12:38 1988 and the great outdoors do you have any closing thoughts for us about this 1:12:45 movie and then tell us where we can find you well thank you Katie for having me 1:12:51 today it is a pleasure as I'm on the cusp of my 50th birthday looking back on 1:12:57 a seinal film for me thinking back how I 1:13:03 was h very happy I get to share these stories of me and my friend just still 1:13:08 quoting this movie to each other to this day and it it's it is funny that this 1:13:16 this particular movie and and not really any of the others but this is one that 1:13:22 that has just kind of followed me around and lived in my head for so long and it 1:13:28 was it was a lot of fun to to talk about it loved it it was fun for me too i 1:13:34 can't believe I hadn't seen it and my god the next time we podcast together Jared I swear to God the listeners every 1:13:40 time Jared and I do a show together I have some sort of technical issue my 1:13:46 power went out for backdraft my internet went out for this so I don't know 1:13:52 there's the universe we had str we had a struggle get even getting here today like it was the 1:13:59 against us let me say that I also completely forgot that we're doing this 1:14:06 a week late because it popped up on my phone last week and I was nowhere near 1:14:12 my house and I was like Katie but I'm so happy that we finally got it together we 1:14:19 conquered the gremlins that were giving you technical issues and we got this 1:14:24 sucker down we did so who knows what will happen next time i mean good grief 1:14:31 maybe an earthquake or something i couldn't even put that out there man don't do it sorry sorry um but listeners 1:14:38 thank you for tuning in and if you enjoyed this episode please do me a huge favor and tell a friend and or share the 1:14:46 show on social media so that other retro fans can join the fun that we have here 1:14:51 on Retro and until next time be kind rewind 1:14:59 [Music]