Latest / Jeep Talk Show / Rubi Kunsch Built & Raced Her Own KOH Jeep
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- 0:00IDO boys and girls,
- 0:01it's time for another
- 0:02Jeep Talk Show interview.
- 0:04We're gonna be talking with Ruby Kuch.
- 0:06I gotta ask you about that first name.
- 0:08Ruby Kuch is a, did I say that right?
- 0:10We went over that.
- 0:12Is Kuch the correct thing?
- 0:13It is, yes.
- 0:14Amazing, I can't
- 0:15pronounce the K to anything.
- 0:17Ruby Kuch is an ultra four
- 0:19racer, 808 and 4600 class.
- 0:22I think I know the 4600 class.
- 0:24What's the hashtag or the pound sign 808?
- 0:27What does that mean?
- 0:29It's my race number.
- 0:31That makes a lot more sense.
- 0:32I thought it was like
- 0:33a class or something.
- 0:34So you're number 808 whenever you race.
- 0:37Do you pick that or do
- 0:38they assign it to you?
- 0:40Yeah, you pick it and actually
- 0:42because they're
- 0:43tightening things up this year,
- 0:45I actually had a message
- 0:47like a month or so ago,
- 0:48there was more than one 808.
- 0:51And I said-- Well that's why
- 0:52we're gonna ask you.
- 0:53Yeah, cause anybody could come with it
- 0:54or they could copy you
- 0:55like they do on Instagram
- 0:56and stuff. Yeah, right.
- 0:57So typically your
- 1:00race number starts with,
- 1:02if you're a 4600 car,
- 1:03now it's, it'll be 46
- 1:05and then two numbers afterwards.
- 1:06Okay, that makes sense.
- 1:07I went to KOH in 2021 and
- 1:11watched Shannon Campbell
- 1:12sending it up Chocolate Thunder.
- 1:14And I was like, I'm gonna do this.
- 1:15And so while I was on the lake bed,
- 1:18I registered a race
- 1:19profile and picked the number 808
- 1:21cause I wanted it.
- 1:22So there was just a whole thing.
- 1:24It's like, okay, only
- 1:25one person can have it.
- 1:27And then I said, well,
- 1:27whoever has it the longest
- 1:28should have it.
- 1:29And I had it the
- 1:30longest, so I get to keep it.
- 1:32Is this 808, maybe
- 1:34you just explained this.
- 1:35Does 808 mean something?
- 1:37It does.
- 1:38It's the area code for Hawaii.
- 1:41Ah, there we go.
- 1:43So she was talking about living in Hawaii
- 1:44before we started recording.
- 1:46So yeah, you must really miss that place.
- 1:48I've never been, I hear it's nice.
- 1:50It's amazing, it's amazing.
- 1:53It's great for two wheels.
- 1:54So I've done some, I love hard enduro
- 1:57and I've raced some dirt bikes.
- 1:58So if you do that out
- 1:59there, it's great, but full size,
- 2:01you have to be on the mainland.
- 2:04Yeah.
- 2:05We'll just visit.
- 2:06Yeah, so ultra four
- 2:07racer, number 808, 4600 class
- 2:10who builds and races her own Jeep.
- 2:13This is racing a Jeep on the
- 2:15King of the Hammers people.
- 2:17That's really cool.
- 2:18She finished 19th at
- 2:20King of the Hammers in 2026.
- 2:22But I think the big
- 2:24deal there is finished.
- 2:26Because not everybody finishes.
- 2:29Yeah, well, and I have,
- 2:32because KOH is so
- 2:33difficult, if you do one lap,
- 2:35that's considered a finish,
- 2:37but a true finish overall is both laps
- 2:39and I did not do both laps this year.
- 2:41Oh, okay, okay.
- 2:43I ended up breaking second lap, so.
- 2:46All right, so is an AWS certified
- 2:49welder, fabricator and instructor.
- 2:51She runs Send It Nation
- 2:53from St. George, Utah,
- 2:54sharing builds, races and shop work
- 2:57as Send It Ruby on Instagram.
- 3:00A mom of four, she wheels and
- 3:02races with her husband, Joe,
- 3:04a combat army veteran builder and racer.
- 3:08Ruby, thanks a lot for being here.
- 3:10All right, so we have to,
- 3:12the first thing I have to ask is Ruby.
- 3:15I asked the computer, is that a nickname?
- 3:19Is it short for something?
- 3:22I mean, it's a great
- 3:23name for a Jeep person.
- 3:25Yeah, it is what I go by.
- 3:30I have a government name, as I say,
- 3:33but the only time my husband,
- 3:35he's called it me that twice
- 3:37and it was when I got
- 3:38baptized and when we got married.
- 3:41So even my mom calls
- 3:44me Ruby, like it's just,
- 3:46it's just what I go by.
- 3:47So it's a long-term thing.
- 3:48It's not something
- 3:49that you did here recently
- 3:50for racing and everything else.
- 3:52So it came about when I first started
- 3:55in Off-Road in 2020 because I,
- 3:58so I was a contractor
- 4:00but a fashion blogger
- 4:01and people on the internet are crazy.
- 4:03So when I started the Jeep page,
- 4:06everything was by design
- 4:07and I only put out
- 4:08what I wanted out there.
- 4:10So people didn't know my name.
- 4:12My initial handle online was Ruby in red
- 4:15and I had a Rubicon and I am red.
- 4:19So I thought people
- 4:20would have gotten that
- 4:21but I started filming and other YouTubers
- 4:24just thought my name was Ruby
- 4:26and everybody started calling me Ruby and
- 4:27it just kind of fit.
- 4:28Like, so it's just, you know,
- 4:31it's my second half
- 4:32identity, if you will.
- 4:33Oh no, it's perfectly fine.
- 4:35I was just curious if it
- 4:36was a nickname or what,
- 4:39but you've done good
- 4:41because I asked Rock,
- 4:42where did the name come from?
- 4:44It couldn't find it.
- 4:46Couldn't find any information on it.
- 4:48No, you did.
- 4:48The only thing Rock didn't cover
- 4:50was that I am a machinist as well.
- 4:53Oh, cool.
- 4:54So my dad did that
- 4:56for a dresser industries
- 4:58for many, many, many years.
- 5:00And it was interesting seeing some
- 5:02of the stuff he'd bring home.
- 5:04You remember the
- 5:05screwdrivers that had the little cap
- 5:07that you could unscrew
- 5:08and take the bits out of it
- 5:09and put it, change the ends?
- 5:11Yeah, so they were building those.
- 5:13So we had a bunch of them at the house
- 5:16and we're talking the seventies.
- 5:17So I think they had just first come out,
- 5:19but he brought them
- 5:20home, ones that he had built.
- 5:22And I thought that was really cool.
- 5:23I think the machinist
- 5:24thing is a real neat thing.
- 5:26He would actually, he
- 5:27probably wasn't supposed to be,
- 5:28but he would actually
- 5:31get replacement parts.
- 5:32I'm trying to think, I
- 5:33think we had a microwave
- 5:34that he did a handle that
- 5:36had broke the plastic handle.
- 5:38So we had like, yeah,
- 5:39that was really cool.
- 5:40So I find all that stuff interesting.
- 5:42I've never done it, but
- 5:43I find it interesting.
- 5:44I like the whole CNC, the
- 5:45plasma cutters, all that stuff.
- 5:47I'd love to have it.
- 5:48And I would have nothing to do with it.
- 5:50I mean, I would use it for something
- 5:51and then it would go years.
- 5:53You'll find things.
- 5:54Oh yeah, just having tools.
- 5:55I mean, I like the 3D printing too,
- 5:57but it's not the same thing as metal.
- 6:00All right, anyway, so
- 6:03you mentioned the red.
- 6:04So people are, long-time viewers and
- 6:07listeners are going,
- 6:08oh, he hasn't said anything about red.
- 6:10All right, so my
- 6:11Cherokee, my 98 Cherokee is red.
- 6:14That's my first Jeep.
- 6:16The second Jeep that
- 6:17we got was a TJ in 2003,
- 6:20same exact paint coat.
- 6:21And we got it used.
- 6:23So it was just meant to be.
- 6:26And then one of our,
- 6:27we ordered the gladiator
- 6:29had to get it in red.
- 6:30So it's not the same paint coat
- 6:31because it's a different
- 6:32red, but it's still bright red.
- 6:34It's not that maroon.
- 6:35I have cracker.
- 6:37Yes, exactly.
- 6:38It's a new one, yeah.
- 6:39So I have a thing where I say,
- 6:42all Jeeps are red or wannabe.
- 6:45So if you got a Jeep,
- 6:47and like we have my
- 6:48co-host Josh has a black Jeep
- 6:50and I just tell him,
- 6:51that's a so depressing,
- 6:53a black Jeep.
- 6:54I don't think the only
- 6:55thing worse than a black Jeep,
- 6:56unless you're gonna
- 6:56wrap it, is a white Jeep.
- 6:59I hate white vehicles.
- 7:00It's so unimaginative.
- 7:02They're everywhere here,
- 7:03but I think it saves the paint
- 7:06being in the Southern Utah desert.
- 7:09Like I'm looking all my window right now
- 7:10and there's four cars
- 7:12and they're all white
- 7:13and they're not all mine.
- 7:14It's just like what's on the road.
- 7:16Oh, you look at a parking lot
- 7:17and you see all those white vehicles.
- 7:19I just shake my head.
- 7:20And of course my wife likes white,
- 7:22even though she's a big fan of red,
- 7:25she does like white.
- 7:25She says it looks elegant.
- 7:27Says, oh, it looks like
- 7:28cheap and unimaginative.
- 7:30But you're married, you know how it goes.
- 7:33All right, so you told me
- 7:38before we were recording,
- 7:39you're from Boston,
- 7:40you've lived in Hawaii.
- 7:41How long were you in Hawaii?
- 7:43About seven years.
- 7:45Wow, that's long enough to get broke,
- 7:48buying all the expensive stuff there.
- 7:51Yeah, I don't know.
- 7:52I call it, it's like paradise tax.
- 7:54I mean, living on the West
- 7:55coast isn't cheap either.
- 7:58But I think living in
- 7:59Hawaii, I needed less.
- 8:01You know, it was the beach
- 8:05and hiking and all of that.
- 8:06And you have such a small
- 8:07footprint for your property.
- 8:09Like you just have less stuff, you know.
- 8:13Compared to, you know, here I have a
- 8:145,000 square foot house.
- 8:17We would put 10
- 8:18families on this on the rock.
- 8:20So yeah, it's simpler.
- 8:22It was good.
- 8:25So where else have you lived?
- 8:27You mentioned California.
- 8:29Where else in the country have you lived?
- 8:31I lived in Nebraska for a year.
- 8:34That's actually where
- 8:34I started off-roading.
- 8:36I lived there during COVID for a year
- 8:38and started going off-road
- 8:40in a place called Tuttle Creek, Kansas.
- 8:42I've lived in Florida,
- 8:45all over New England.
- 8:46I was a competitive skier.
- 8:47So we moved to Maine when I
- 8:49was in like middle school.
- 8:51Did that for a while.
- 8:53When I left Hawaii the
- 8:54first time I moved back to,
- 8:57I lived in New Hampshire on the beach.
- 9:00And then, yeah, just kind of all over.
- 9:05And I chose St. George
- 9:06because it's awesome.
- 9:08And as an adult, you get to choose where
- 9:09you want to be from.
- 9:10So we picked this.
- 9:12So how far is it for you to go off-road?
- 9:17Two seconds.
- 9:18I have great rocks. Well, I'm not talking
- 9:20about the driveway.
- 9:21I mean, you know,
- 9:22there's big rocks and things
- 9:23that are somewhat challenging at least.
- 9:25So I've filmed a few
- 9:27different commercials.
- 9:29Like there's rocks like
- 9:31right above my neighborhood.
- 9:33It's called Airport Hill.
- 9:35Gnarly rocks, like
- 9:37crazier than you'll have
- 9:38most of the country.
- 9:40San Hollow is about 15 minutes though.
- 9:43Yeah, that's just amazing.
- 9:46I'm three hours from a
- 9:48place where I can go off-road
- 9:50in Central Texas.
- 9:52And there's arguments
- 9:54about whether or not
- 9:55it's a right place to go off-road.
- 9:56I like it a lot.
- 9:58But my former co-host
- 10:01Wendy lives five minutes
- 10:04from Gold Mountain.
- 10:05And it's literally a five
- 10:07minute drive from her house
- 10:08to get on, not John Glenn.
- 10:14I can't remember what it's called now.
- 10:15John Bull.
- 10:17Yeah.
- 10:17And I actually flew up there.
- 10:19Nexon Tires had me come
- 10:21out for a very small thing.
- 10:23And they rented Jeeps.
- 10:26I got to drive a TJ on the Nexon Tires
- 10:29and go off-road at John Bull.
- 10:31Oh my God, that is gorgeous.
- 10:33Absolutely gorgeous.
- 10:35I think I still like Moab better,
- 10:39but it's different.
- 10:42It's very different.
- 10:43Yes, yes.
- 10:43They're in California.
- 10:45But still very--
- 10:46Believing here is so different.
- 10:47And we're still in Utah.
- 10:50The rock, I don't know, I love rocks.
- 10:52I find them super fascinating.
- 10:54And rocks all over
- 10:56the country are, I mean,
- 10:57everything is formed
- 10:58differently at different times.
- 10:59So yeah, it's always fun to feel the
- 11:04difference in the rocks
- 11:05and it's a different type of wheeling
- 11:07and the traction is different.
- 11:09I mean, I say the traction
- 11:10out here is like cheating
- 11:11similar to Moab.
- 11:12Yes, sandpaper.
- 11:13Yeah.
- 11:14But the rocks at King
- 11:17of Hammers, for instance,
- 11:18are very sharp, very smooth.
- 11:21Not as much traction.
- 11:25Willy in Kansas,
- 11:26there was a lot of shale.
- 11:27So you put any sort
- 11:30of skinny pedal to that
- 11:31and it just kind of crumbles.
- 11:32So yeah, it's all different.
- 11:36It's pretty cool.
- 11:37Yeah, it's kind of an adventure.
- 11:38I don't know how you feel
- 11:39about it, but I often say,
- 11:41having an off-road vehicle, for me
- 11:43specifically a Jeep,
- 11:44I don't want anything else.
- 11:46But having an off-road capable Jeep,
- 11:48which they're off-road
- 11:49capable from the factory,
- 11:51it's like having a superpower
- 11:53because you can go places
- 11:56that I just call them civilians
- 11:58can't.
- 11:59And it's amazing.
- 12:02It's an amazing feeling.
- 12:03And especially so whenever
- 12:04you're driving over stuff
- 12:06and you make the mistake of getting out
- 12:08and trying to walk up a
- 12:09hill and you go, my God.
- 12:12Especially when you bust your ass.
- 12:14It's just like, my God,
- 12:16this Jeep is really amazing.
- 12:18So yeah, I think it's wonderful.
- 12:22Okay, so let's get to the ultra four.
- 12:25People are getting pissed off.
- 12:26Talk about ultra four.
- 12:28So you mentioned COVID.
- 12:34Were you looking for
- 12:35something to do during COVID?
- 12:37Is that how this got started?
- 12:39Were you like, oh, I
- 12:40hate being in the house.
- 12:42No, I was so busy during COVID.
- 12:46Yeah, so I was a
- 12:47disaster restoration contractor
- 12:49for many years and
- 12:50during COVID, I was one.
- 12:52I've had four Jeeps,
- 12:55five Jeeps at that point.
- 12:57I ordered a diesel Rubicon and they said,
- 13:01oh, it's not gonna show up.
- 13:03And it actually showed up on April 1st,
- 13:05which was hilarious.
- 13:06And I was like, are
- 13:07you playing by the way?
- 13:08Yeah, no, I literally have the test.
- 13:11You better not be screwing with me.
- 13:14So that Jeep came in and I
- 13:18did want something to do.
- 13:20So I started the Instagram with the Jeep
- 13:23because I saw girls monetizing
- 13:25it and I'm a business person.
- 13:28I was a fashion blogger at one point.
- 13:30So I do know how to
- 13:31monetize things on the internet,
- 13:33but I saw girls with
- 13:34their cars and I was like,
- 13:35I could do that.
- 13:36So I started the page and
- 13:38then I didn't wanna just be
- 13:38a girl with a car.
- 13:39So I was like, I need to go
- 13:41find some rocks, some dirt,
- 13:42what have you and
- 13:45join the local Jeep page
- 13:46and figured out where I
- 13:47could go and went off road
- 13:49and got the bug and six
- 13:51years later, here we are.
- 13:54How successful has it been for you?
- 13:57Because I think a lot of
- 13:58people see, I ought to say it,
- 14:01people that don't know
- 14:02what the hell they're doing.
- 14:03And like you said, I can do that.
- 14:05And then you try it
- 14:06and you go, holy crap,
- 14:08what's the magic?
- 14:09I told you we've been
- 14:12doing this for 16 years
- 14:13and we're only four years away
- 14:15from being an overnight success.
- 14:17You have to put in 20 years.
- 14:19You may not have had to,
- 14:21but it seems like a
- 14:22lot of people out there.
- 14:23And you find out there's a lot of people
- 14:26that other people find interesting.
- 14:28You may not, but it's like I always,
- 14:32and I tell myself this so I
- 14:34don't get down on sometimes
- 14:36the show not doing as good
- 14:37as what I'd like it to do
- 14:38is there's a lot of
- 14:39talented people out there
- 14:41for radio, TV, so on and so forth.
- 14:44And you don't see them.
- 14:48It's a crapshoot.
- 14:49I mean, you have to try,
- 14:50absolutely you have to try,
- 14:51but it's really just a crapshoot.
- 14:54I think visibility is a huge part of it.
- 14:56And one of the reasons
- 14:57that I've been as effective
- 14:58as I have been,
- 15:01that first year started going off road.
- 15:04I connected with Rockstar
- 15:05Energy and Rockstar Garage.
- 15:07They had the great American crawl.
- 15:08So I was traveling all
- 15:10over the country during COVID.
- 15:11I traveled more during COVID
- 15:13than I ever had before COVID.
- 15:16And still, I have spent hundreds of
- 15:19thousands of dollars
- 15:21on travel and events
- 15:22and racing, obviously.
- 15:25I love racing, but one of the reasons I
- 15:28stepped into it was,
- 15:29I mean, I love competing.
- 15:30Like I just need something to compete in.
- 15:33But if it wasn't for the racing,
- 15:35my cashflow was very
- 15:38different before racing.
- 15:40When I first started.
- 15:41I bet.
- 15:42Yeah.
- 15:43Well, when I first
- 15:44started on the internet,
- 15:46Instagram was paying for reels.
- 15:48So I was making over
- 15:51$10,000 a month just on views.
- 15:55So all of 2021, I was
- 15:57on the road traveling
- 15:58and everything was
- 16:00paid for just for views.
- 16:01And then Instagram took that away.
- 16:03And now they pay a
- 16:04little bit, but it's not much.
- 16:06I would say Facebook pays more.
- 16:09But that was like how I monetized that.
- 16:11And then obviously
- 16:12working with companies and now,
- 16:14I do brand deals and I
- 16:17have yearly sponsorships,
- 16:20multi-year sponsorships.
- 16:22Like it just depends on
- 16:23how we structure the deal.
- 16:24But everybody thinks,
- 16:27"Oh, you have the best life.
- 16:29I just wanna travel
- 16:30and wheel and send it."
- 16:31But being broke is a thing.
- 16:35You can go in all in on this and do this.
- 16:38But I had months where I'm like,
- 16:42"Am I gonna be able to make this payment?
- 16:47I've had to say no to things."
- 16:49There's just a
- 16:50couple, like two years ago,
- 16:52I was talking about this
- 16:53with my sister the other day,
- 16:54I had jeans and they had holes in them.
- 16:57And this year, everything is paid for.
- 17:01It was $10,000 just to go to
- 17:03Hammer's, not the race fee,
- 17:04just to bring my small team that I have
- 17:07to spend the time there
- 17:09and do the race was $10,000.
- 17:12This year we've done that.
- 17:13We've done Jeep Beach,
- 17:14we've done Smoky Mountain Jeep Invasion.
- 17:17I've been to the Indianapolis 500.
- 17:19I've been top fuel.
- 17:22We're going back to Vegas for a week.
- 17:24I just did Fabtech.
- 17:25I'm driving a NASCAR car on Halloween.
- 17:30Just all these cool opportunities
- 17:32that are paid or paid for, I now have.
- 17:36But the money and the
- 17:38sweat and the stress
- 17:39that I had to put into
- 17:41building this over six,
- 17:43we're over six years now,
- 17:45but it didn't just happen overnight.
- 17:48And if I didn't have the capital
- 17:50and the flexibility initially,
- 17:52I wouldn't have been able
- 17:53to build it the way I have.
- 17:56Are you going to SEMA?
- 17:58Of course.
- 17:59Well, I really appreciate you making time
- 18:01for this interview,
- 18:03because SEMA is just
- 18:04right around the corner.
- 18:05I'm literally driving a
- 18:07NASCAR pro car in two days.
- 18:10Yeah, you mentioned Vegas,
- 18:11but I wasn't sure if it was SEMA or not.
- 18:14I'm, NASCAR invited me out,
- 18:15so I'm doing that in Vegas.
- 18:17And then the next day I
- 18:18have top fuel nationals
- 18:19and I'll sit down with Fox Sports
- 18:21and all of those people then.
- 18:23And then we go right into SEMA.
- 18:25So it's crazy.
- 18:28And we had Fabtech last week, so.
- 18:31So after driving the NASCAR,
- 18:33get out and tell them it
- 18:34pulls a little bit to the left.
- 18:36I will, just for you.
- 18:38And I'll make sure my
- 18:39media guy gets that.
- 18:43So in any of the stuff that I ask you
- 18:46that's too much information
- 18:48or you don't want to share with anybody,
- 18:49feel free to skip.
- 18:52So now I gotta remember
- 18:54what I was gonna ask you about.
- 18:55I was too busy
- 18:56thinking of an NASCAR joke.
- 18:59Whenever you were, oh, do
- 19:01people just reach out to you
- 19:03for these deals?
- 19:05Or do you have you or your team
- 19:07actually reach out to individual
- 19:10companies and stuff?
- 19:11And I mean, sometimes
- 19:12you have to be mentioned.
- 19:14I mean, you have to be on their radar.
- 19:17I mean, if you're doing
- 19:17a good job media-wise,
- 19:19you probably know you,
- 19:20but sometimes it's just the like,
- 19:23oh, they're interested in
- 19:23working with us type thing.
- 19:25And then you start
- 19:26getting into consideration.
- 19:28It's both.
- 19:29Up until I would say the past two years,
- 19:33it's been me just grinding.
- 19:35I mean, companies reach
- 19:36out to do collaborations
- 19:38all the time, but it's a
- 19:39lot of times it's stuff
- 19:40that I'm not necessarily interested in.
- 19:43My sponsorship with Lincoln Electric,
- 19:45that came about because I went to PRI,
- 19:48which is kind of like
- 19:49a CMA, but for racing
- 19:51and it's pretty small,
- 19:52but if you're in racing,
- 19:54you go to PRI.
- 19:55It's in India in December.
- 19:56So I walked up to the Lincoln booth
- 19:59and the motorsports
- 20:00marketing guys were like,
- 20:01you're Senate Ruby.
- 20:02I see your stuff everywhere.
- 20:04You just popped up like two weeks ago.
- 20:06Like what the heck?
- 20:06What are you doing?
- 20:08So that happened.
- 20:10I'm gonna be doing a lot of work with 3M
- 20:12and American Welding
- 20:13Society this next year.
- 20:15And those are all like bigger contracts.
- 20:18That all came out because of visibility.
- 20:21But I still, I'm
- 20:23still always reaching out
- 20:25to different brands and not,
- 20:27especially with racing
- 20:28because it is so expensive
- 20:30and I'm trying to do more
- 20:31than one type of discipline.
- 20:33Oh, I forgot about that.
- 20:33You really have to reach out
- 20:34if you wanna be able to afford to race.
- 20:37Oh yeah.
- 20:37Like I have one of the
- 20:39lowest budget programs,
- 20:40even just in my ultra four class.
- 20:42I'm competing a large part
- 20:44of the people that at the top,
- 20:46I placed ninth nationally this year.
- 20:51Five of those people
- 20:52are Ford factory racers.
- 20:55And those cars are all
- 20:57half a million dollar cars.
- 20:59I think the cheapest one's like 350.
- 21:01And my retail on my
- 21:03race car is like 40 grand.
- 21:06So we are a lot less money,
- 21:08but it's still an entry
- 21:10fee for King of Hammers
- 21:11like over $3,000 and every
- 21:14other race is about three
- 21:16to $4,000.
- 21:17So it's a lot of money.
- 21:19So yeah, we're this
- 21:21between now and January
- 21:23is just fundraising, getting
- 21:26out there, high visibility,
- 21:28getting your metrics as beefy as you can
- 21:31so you can show a positive conversion
- 21:33rate that's appealing
- 21:34that will make them
- 21:35wanna give you $20,000
- 21:37or whatever it is that you're asking for.
- 21:39It amazes me that there's,
- 21:40I mean, I know it exists,
- 21:41but it amazes me
- 21:42there's companies out there
- 21:44that would just write you a check.
- 21:46Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
- 21:48For a large amount of money.
- 21:49Of course, then you have to
- 21:50apply that and sometimes more.
- 21:54So, it's gotta be a very
- 21:58big confidence builder too.
- 22:00If when a company, you're
- 22:01probably used to it now,
- 22:02but it's like, wow, I mean,
- 22:04a Wolfbox sent me a mirror
- 22:07and I'm like, oh, this is cool.
- 22:08(laughing)
- 22:10It is cool and you need to
- 22:12treat every step along the way.
- 22:15Like to me, I think being
- 22:17humble is like the biggest thing
- 22:19and getting money
- 22:21thrown at you is really cool,
- 22:23but to me, it's also
- 22:24very stressful because I-
- 22:26Well, you have to perform.
- 22:28Yes, that is always my
- 22:30biggest thing is like,
- 22:31am I doing enough?
- 22:33And I think the fact that
- 22:34I always think that I'm not
- 22:36is one of the reasons
- 22:37that I do do such a great job
- 22:38and I do a lot of above and beyond
- 22:41and I put a lot of thought and attention
- 22:43into these relationships
- 22:45and I try to hit things
- 22:46at a different angle than most people
- 22:49and brands really like that.
- 22:51And I won't do a deal
- 22:53with somebody with a company
- 22:55if I don't like the people.
- 22:56Like the product, there's
- 22:57tons of great products out there,
- 22:58but the people have to be like,
- 23:00I'm gonna be spending time with you.
- 23:02You're the ones that the
- 23:03people I'm sending to you
- 23:05are gonna interact
- 23:06with, like how you treat me
- 23:09and how you treat them.
- 23:09Well, there's gonna be the association
- 23:10from the people that
- 23:11are being treated by them
- 23:12and you don't wanna just,
- 23:13it's just like doing reviews.
- 23:15You do not want to review something
- 23:17that's a piece of shit
- 23:18and then people buy it
- 23:19and they're gonna remember
- 23:20that you told them it was great.
- 23:22And there's a lot of that out there
- 23:23and that's something that
- 23:24I've never done nor will I.
- 23:26And I think to me, it's all sustainable
- 23:30if you do things right.
- 23:32And so that's
- 23:32something that I really strive
- 23:34to consistently do.
- 23:35So let me ask you about this.
- 23:39I learned a couple of years ago, I guess,
- 23:42that companies were starting to check
- 23:45with the influencers
- 23:47or the people that
- 23:47they were partnering with
- 23:49to make sure the women, I
- 23:50guess it could be men too,
- 23:51but generally it's
- 23:52not for obvious reasons
- 23:55about them having an OnlyFans account.
- 23:58Yeah, so I-- Did you have an opinion
- 24:00on the OnlyFans thing?
- 24:02I mean, I try not to judge,
- 24:04people should do whatever they wanna do.
- 24:06But it turns me off.
- 24:08Yeah, so it's funny, when I
- 24:10first started the OF girls,
- 24:13a lot of companies were working with them
- 24:15and there's been a shift
- 24:16the past couple of years
- 24:18away from that, which I think is cool.
- 24:21I think a lot of it has to do with
- 24:23a lot of people in this industry.
- 24:25Yes, there's older people like you and I,
- 24:27but there's a lot of people that were
- 24:30fresh out of college
- 24:31and they were doing what was cool,
- 24:32but now these people are married
- 24:34and they're having
- 24:34daughters and they're having.
- 24:36So I love that, I have multiple deals
- 24:41because of how I conduct myself.
- 24:44I appeal to the masses, the moms, the
- 24:46daughters, the teens,
- 24:48like it's everybody
- 24:50can see what I'm doing
- 24:51and it's still good.
- 24:52I've had a bunch of
- 24:55OnlyFans accounts created
- 24:57pretending to be me.
- 24:59(laughing)
- 25:00That used to happen a ton during COVID.
- 25:04If you look up Send
- 25:06It Ruby, there's a few,
- 25:07Send It Ruby Backup, Send It Ruby XXO,
- 25:10that Instagram won't take down still.
- 25:12I don't know what they
- 25:13post on these things,
- 25:14but my fan base is pretty loyal.
- 25:16So if something is
- 25:17popping up, they're like,
- 25:18"Hey, I'm pretty sure this isn't you."
- 25:21In the beginning,
- 25:21they're like, "Is it you?
- 25:23I mean, if it is, it's okay."
- 25:24I'm like, "No, dude, we don't do that."
- 25:27I had an interview
- 25:28with, well, I auditioned,
- 25:30Netflix had reached out
- 25:31to me a couple months ago
- 25:33for a show and one of the
- 25:35things they asked me was,
- 25:36"Have you ever or do
- 25:38you have an OnlyFans?"
- 25:39And if I did, it would
- 25:41have disqualified me from it.
- 25:42So I was like, "Right there."
- 25:44I mean, I chose for personal reasons
- 25:46because the internet's
- 25:48forever and we do have kids.
- 25:53My, I'm a stepmom, but
- 25:55we were full-time parents.
- 25:57But I have three girls and a son.
- 26:01The son is the big thing.
- 26:02It's like, he's almost 21.
- 26:05I don't want his friend saying,
- 26:07"Hey, look at your stepmom."
- 26:11The internet's forever
- 26:12is what I tell people.
- 26:13So don't ever put something out there
- 26:14because even if you
- 26:15take it down 20 bucks,
- 26:16somebody already screen
- 26:17recorded or screenshotted it
- 26:19and it's not gone.
- 26:20Oh yeah, no, internet's forever.
- 26:22I like the one where there's, is it,
- 26:28diesel XJ, there's a really pretty girl.
- 26:30She has a bunch of Jeeps.
- 26:32She's pretty funny.
- 26:34I like it.
- 26:35She's a big XJ fan.
- 26:36And she comes on every so often and says,
- 26:42fake account, if you
- 26:44bought something from me,
- 26:45I don't interact, I don't DM people,
- 26:48I don't sell anything.
- 26:50And my comment was,
- 26:52"Whose feet is in these
- 26:53pictures that I bought?"
- 26:56(laughs)
- 26:57So I always try to make
- 26:58people laugh on the social medias.
- 27:01But yeah, and there was another one.
- 27:03Somebody was complaining
- 27:04about all the fake accounts.
- 27:07And I think my comment was,
- 27:08I look forward to being popular enough,
- 27:11the Jeep Talk Show being popular enough
- 27:12that they make copy accounts
- 27:15because they want to be part of the fun
- 27:18of the Jeep Talk Show.
- 27:19But anyway, it's like
- 27:20you say, being humble.
- 27:21And we always try to
- 27:23maintain being humble here.
- 27:24Getting back to what you were saying
- 27:26as far as performing for the companies
- 27:29and the individuals
- 27:30that are supporting you.
- 27:32We don't do this for stuff,
- 27:35but occasionally stuff comes up.
- 27:37I mentioned the Wolfbox camera.
- 27:39There's a very nice company, G-tops,
- 27:43that takes the freedom
- 27:44panels and they cut a hole
- 27:46and they replace it
- 27:47with see-through panels.
- 27:49And it was so neat.
- 27:51I had to have those and he offered
- 27:54and I took him up on it.
- 27:55In fact, when we went to Moab in 2023,
- 28:00my wife and I, it was wonderful being
- 28:02able to see at the top.
- 28:04And also too, I liked it
- 28:05because I didn't have to worry
- 28:07about hot, cold or anything else.
- 28:09It was all sealed up.
- 28:11So we've always tried to do stuff
- 28:14to help support that company
- 28:16because it's a great product
- 28:18and because like what you say,
- 28:19you wanna go the extra mile for them,
- 28:22thinking of you the
- 28:23way they think of you.
- 28:24So I think that's wonderful.
- 28:25I think that's the way you
- 28:26have to be or should be anyway.
- 28:28I think it's the only way for it
- 28:29to be sustainable, honestly.
- 28:32All right, so you're king of the hammers,
- 28:36you're 4,600 class vehicle.
- 28:39What is that again?
- 28:41Who built that originally?
- 28:43So I built it.
- 28:46I dealt with that. No, no, no.
- 28:47It's a Jeep.
- 28:47That's the point I wanna
- 28:48make was you're using a Jeep.
- 28:52So it's a 97 Jeep TJ.
- 28:58Its name is T-Rex
- 28:59cause it was that like
- 29:01emerald greenish color,
- 29:03like that metallic, I don't
- 29:04know what the paint coat is
- 29:05on it, but originally he was green.
- 29:07So we named him T-Rex.
- 29:10He now has a four-O
- 29:12in his original birth.
- 29:14He had a two-five and a manual.
- 29:17We put the four-O in it
- 29:19because it was available
- 29:21the year that it was
- 29:22built and part of the rules
- 29:23of the 4,600 class,
- 29:24which is the stock class
- 29:26in the Everyman Challenge engine wise,
- 29:29you can only put whatever
- 29:31power train was available.
- 29:32So if there was two options,
- 29:34obviously we chose the four-O
- 29:36cause it's the better motor.
- 29:37It has an AX 15, it's a
- 29:39manual and you have to keep
- 29:42the same transmission that was available.
- 29:44Transfer case however, you
- 29:45can put whatever you want.
- 29:47So I have a JK Rubicon
- 29:49transfer case in it currently.
- 29:51Yeah, I was just gonna ask
- 29:53you if you put an AW4 in it,
- 29:54I know that a lot of
- 29:55TJ owners will do that.
- 29:56And especially for
- 29:57traveling on rocks and stuff,
- 29:59because a lot of people don't understand
- 30:03manual transmissions
- 30:04because they just never used one.
- 30:06My first vehicle was
- 30:07a manual transmission.
- 30:08And if you're ever on an incline at a
- 30:10stop sign or a light,
- 30:11you learn some fancy
- 30:13footwork and it has to be triple,
- 30:16quadruple that doing a race,
- 30:19going over rocks and stuff.
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- 30:55Yeah, I have a hand
- 30:57throttle as well though.
- 30:58So if it's like, if I'm like this,
- 31:02I will use that just a
- 31:03hair to get it started.
- 31:04And then, you know, just cut it off
- 31:07and just drive from there.
- 31:09But you can ride it more,
- 31:11but the way I have mine set up,
- 31:13it's not, it doesn't go
- 31:14high enough necessarily.
- 31:16So, but the hand
- 31:17throttle is very helpful.
- 31:19Oh, I can imagine.
- 31:20Super steep gnarly stuff for sure.
- 31:22Yeah, so, you know, I do all the work
- 31:27on all our Jeeps myself.
- 31:28I hate it, but I like
- 31:30knowing how it was done.
- 31:32Yeah.
- 31:32And I've replaced the
- 31:36clutch in my wife's 2003 TJ.
- 31:39And I think I had an
- 31:40interview with Centerforce.
- 31:42I was just gonna say that.
- 31:43About a month after that.
- 31:45And I did not know anything
- 31:47about heavy duty flywheel,
- 31:49is it the extra weight?
- 31:50So obviously you had to
- 31:53have done that in your TJ.
- 31:54Who did you go with?
- 31:56Yeah, I have a Centerforce clutch.
- 31:57Yeah, anytime, if
- 31:59Centerforce makes a clutch for it,
- 32:00I will utilize it for sure.
- 32:02Yeah, it seems to be a great company.
- 32:04We've had them on the
- 32:05show a couple of times.
- 32:07And those bastards, they'll
- 32:09put up the pressure plate,
- 32:13you know, a picture of them changing
- 32:14or putting a clutch in there.
- 32:16And their pressure plate is
- 32:17this bright, beautiful red
- 32:19that nobody will ever
- 32:20see again, if you're lucky.
- 32:23Yeah, I mean, I, it's
- 32:26funny, one of my co-drivers,
- 32:28I have a guy that he
- 32:29always races hammers for me.
- 32:31And if I do anything in
- 32:32California, he'll race with me.
- 32:33And then I have another guy that I use
- 32:35for everything else.
- 32:37And the hammers guy is like very,
- 32:39like he worked with UFO.
- 32:42So like they build all
- 32:43like the Gomez brothers cars
- 32:45and a lot of like the
- 32:46top king of hammers cars.
- 32:48So he's super like diligent OCD
- 32:50and all the things that I'm not.
- 32:51And he's like, we need
- 32:52to change this clutch.
- 32:53And he was so pissed that we didn't
- 32:55change it last year.
- 32:56And I'm like, we pulled it up, like
- 32:58pulled everything apart,
- 32:59took pictures.
- 33:00I'm like, it's perfect.
- 33:01Like I didn't have any issues with it.
- 33:03So I've raced, you know,
- 33:05two seasons on it already
- 33:06and it's still great.
- 33:08Well, and I know a lot
- 33:10of people don't know this.
- 33:11You can cook a clutch if
- 33:13you don't use it properly.
- 33:14And that's one of the reasons for a
- 33:15heavy-duty flywheel,
- 33:16at least in my mind,
- 33:17is that you don't have
- 33:18to feather it as much.
- 33:20And so yeah, you can, I think it was my,
- 33:23I mentioned my first
- 33:24vehicle when I was 16
- 33:27was a three-speed manual transmission.
- 33:30It was the Nova 73 Nova.
- 33:34And because of the way I drive,
- 33:36because let's just put it this way.
- 33:38I was never going to
- 33:39die because I'm immortal,
- 33:41but somebody else was going to die
- 33:43with the way I would drive my vehicles.
- 33:46I went through 12 clutch changes.
- 33:50When I was 16, there was no internet.
- 33:53There was Chilton manuals,
- 33:55which I hated because I
- 33:57never showed it correctly.
- 33:59Really? I think they're so good
- 34:00compared to what you find nowadays.
- 34:02Well, maybe I just can't read.
- 34:04(laughing)
- 34:04I think that laring,
- 34:06you should go to one
- 34:08of those laring centers.
- 34:10They have the Indianapolis.
- 34:12Oh my God, that is horrible.
- 34:14But anyway, I changed the
- 34:16clutch 12 different times.
- 34:18The first time, a
- 34:20neighbor friend of mine,
- 34:21I think is about four years
- 34:22older than me at the time,
- 34:23and well, he passed
- 34:25away relatively recently,
- 34:26but anyway, he helped me with it.
- 34:28It took 12 hours to change the clutch.
- 34:32Wow.
- 34:33And I'm sure I didn't
- 34:34have all the nice tools.
- 34:36Oh, and you won't believe how happy I got
- 34:38whenever I saw something
- 34:39at the auto parts place
- 34:40that was a wooden dowel
- 34:42that was shaped funnily
- 34:43like the end of my transmission.
- 34:46The thing that I was stabbing
- 34:47because it took so long
- 34:49because I was moving
- 34:49the pressure plate around,
- 34:51picking up that
- 34:51transmission, stabbing it.
- 34:52But anyway, so I finally
- 34:54found out, you'll like this,
- 34:55I finally found out
- 34:57that you can't just change
- 34:59the clutch disc.
- 35:01You need to resurface the
- 35:03pressure plate and the flywheel.
- 35:05Oh, and you might want to
- 35:07change the throwout bearing.
- 35:08I literally had to drive home from school
- 35:11by starting it in gear and
- 35:14shifting without a clutch
- 35:15because the throwout
- 35:17bearing went through the fingers
- 35:19of the pressure plate.
- 35:20You.
- 35:20(laughing)
- 35:21Anyway.
- 35:22You weren't.
- 35:23Oh yeah, absolutely.
- 35:25So it's fascinating.
- 35:29But anyway, it's really cool.
- 35:31And I think that's one of the reasons
- 35:32why doing these things,
- 35:34and I'm sure you've had excitement too,
- 35:36even though that you have
- 35:36a team and stuff like that,
- 35:38you've had things that
- 35:39you've learned that were like,
- 35:41oh, I mean, this is like
- 35:43the heavy duty flywheel.
- 35:44It makes sense once
- 35:45you find out about it,
- 35:46but I had no clue.
- 35:47And I've done a lot of
- 35:49standard transmission stuff.
- 35:51Yeah, no, and I think
- 35:52that's the great thing.
- 35:53I mean, that's one of the big reasons
- 35:54I started doing my own work,
- 35:56because I had the
- 35:57money, I was paying people
- 35:58and stuff was going wrong.
- 36:00And before I met my
- 36:02husband, I traveled by myself
- 36:04and I don't want to
- 36:06have to rely on people.
- 36:07And sometimes there's not somebody there.
- 36:09Like even though you have a body,
- 36:10you're out wheeling,
- 36:10not everybody's mechanically inclined.
- 36:12So I have self-taught some things,
- 36:17but I also am one of those people
- 36:18and I tell everybody this,
- 36:20surround yourself with
- 36:21people that know all the things
- 36:23that are doing what you want to do
- 36:24and be humble and add value where you can
- 36:29so they can share the
- 36:30knowledge and help you out.
- 36:32And most people I feel
- 36:33like in the automotive world,
- 36:34they're pretty helpful
- 36:35if they're good people.
- 36:36And if they're not,
- 36:37then find somebody else
- 36:39because we can't take
- 36:41the knowledge with us.
- 36:42So share it.
- 36:44But I would say, yes, YouTube
- 36:46is great, manuals are great,
- 36:48but there's also a lot of
- 36:49bad information out there.
- 36:50Oh, absolutely.
- 36:51Finding people that have been successful
- 36:56and you can see they are
- 36:57doing things the right way,
- 36:58seek those people out
- 37:00and just ask questions.
- 37:02Even with my welding,
- 37:05no, I'm a certified welder,
- 37:06I teach whatever, Igor
- 37:08from Triton Engineering,
- 37:09he builds like all of Von Gittin Juniors
- 37:12and he builds top trophy trucks.
- 37:15I go over there when
- 37:16they're building cars
- 37:18and just watch because-
- 37:20Oh yeah, absolutely.
- 37:22Can you ask questions?
- 37:24Oh yeah, absolutely.
- 37:25Ask questions, even say like,
- 37:28hey, like I'll text you or
- 37:29sometime if I'm struggling
- 37:30so I'm like, hey, this
- 37:31is the result I'm getting.
- 37:32Do you have any suggestions?
- 37:34Because he, in my eyes, is
- 37:36one of the top fabricators ever
- 37:38and he'll say, yeah, try this.
- 37:40And so having people
- 37:42like that in your network,
- 37:43I think are priceless.
- 37:44And I have people all the
- 37:45time, like I teach people,
- 37:47but I also have people
- 37:49that I'm just friends with
- 37:50and they'll text me, they're like,
- 37:51hey, I'm struggling with this.
- 37:53I'm like, send me a picture of your weld.
- 37:55Okay, try this.
- 37:56If they're still
- 37:56struggling, I said, set up a camera
- 37:58so I can see what you're
- 37:59doing and then tell them
- 38:01because I can look at and
- 38:03hear things and say, okay.
- 38:05You know, if somebody films a video on
- 38:07YouTube or Instagram
- 38:08and they're showing their welding
- 38:09and they're doing their things,
- 38:11I need to watch a lot of
- 38:12this stuff to be able to say,
- 38:14their metal's not clean,
- 38:15they need higher amperage,
- 38:17they don't have good gas coverage,
- 38:18like their angle is wrong just because
- 38:21I've done it enough.
- 38:22So find people like
- 38:23that for whatever it is
- 38:25that you're looking to
- 38:25do to have as a resource,
- 38:27I think is pretty awesome.
- 38:29I have never welded.
- 38:31If I ever weld, it'll be self-taught.
- 38:34It's gonna happen
- 38:34eventually because I say--
- 38:36Let's do it.
- 38:37Yeah, yeah, I think
- 38:39that knowing how to stick
- 38:41two pieces of metal
- 38:41together gives you the ability
- 38:44to do pretty much anything
- 38:46given the time and money.
- 38:49I mean, battleships are welded together.
- 38:52Tanks are welded together.
- 38:54So to me--
- 38:56Every railing or bridge
- 38:59or, you know, big buildings,
- 39:02like everything is welded together.
- 39:04And once you start
- 39:07welding, sorry to cut you off,
- 39:08once you start welding
- 39:09and you go out to say
- 39:11like the Grand Canyon or like an
- 39:13amusement park or anything,
- 39:14you're just gonna be like,
- 39:16that guy was 15 bucks
- 39:18an hour, what is this?
- 39:19Who paid the inspector off?
- 39:23Because like the better
- 39:24you get, I tell people this,
- 39:26the better you get at say welding or
- 39:28driving or whatever,
- 39:29all of these things and these
- 39:30people that you looked up to
- 39:32and you thought were the bomb.com,
- 39:35the more you know, the less you love.
- 39:38I am more often
- 39:40disappointed than I am loud,
- 39:41but when you're loud now, it's like,
- 39:43okay, that works really good, but--
- 39:46Well, I think knowing
- 39:47stuff ruins movies and books
- 39:50because the people that are doing it,
- 39:52they don't know what
- 39:53the hell they're doing.
- 39:54I saw a video the other day
- 39:56where they were shooting a gun
- 39:57and the whole cartridge was going through
- 40:02the air.
- 40:03I think my comment was
- 40:05you should check your bore
- 40:06on that rifle, because I think it's time
- 40:10to change the barrel,
- 40:11but it's really funny.
- 40:12People just put stuff out there
- 40:13and they don't know what
- 40:14the hell they're doing.
- 40:14All right, so I'm really
- 40:16having fun talking to you
- 40:17about this, I have so many questions
- 40:19and we have so little time.
- 40:21So 4600 or King of the Hammers,
- 40:25I spoke with Tony Pellegrino,
- 40:29did several interviews with Tony
- 40:31and Jen Wright, and
- 40:33we were talking about,
- 40:34I got on this thing
- 40:36where I was finding out
- 40:37what he had to do to
- 40:39race at King of the Hammers.
- 40:41And I think the most
- 40:43off-putting thing for me
- 40:45was the catheter.
- 40:47Yeah.
- 40:49I was like, oh, holy crap.
- 40:51I figured it'd be a nice set of the pins,
- 40:54maybe a roll when you need it.
- 40:55You can do that and
- 40:56there's, guys have it easy, okay?
- 40:59That's what I was wondering about,
- 41:01guys have options for catheters.
- 41:04I actually had this
- 41:04conversation with Amber Slossen,
- 41:08Randy Slossen's wife the other day,
- 41:10because she is gonna have a
- 41:12suit made by my suit maker
- 41:14and she's like, question for you.
- 41:16I'm like, what's up?
- 41:17She's like, do you use a catheter?
- 41:19And I've had catheter talks with like,
- 41:23Sarah Price and Kristen and
- 41:27just like all these top girls
- 41:28because before I started racing,
- 41:29I'm like, what do you do?
- 41:30What do you do?
- 41:31Of course, you wanna know.
- 41:32Yeah, so for KOH it's hard,
- 41:34cause it's a long race.
- 41:37Catheters fail, so you
- 41:39could even torture yourself
- 41:41and wear one and you
- 41:42still peed your pants.
- 41:43Poor Amber has gone
- 41:44through that a bunch of times.
- 41:46I have catheters, I
- 41:49have not been using them
- 41:51because I haven't been fast enough yet.
- 41:56Like first year, we were
- 41:57just happy to get out there.
- 41:59Last year, we made a lot of changes.
- 42:02We felt good, we just wanted
- 42:03to do it and to not time out.
- 42:06This year, I'm
- 42:08probably gonna wear a catheter
- 42:09cause I'm hungry and I wanna finish
- 42:11and I'm gonna not time
- 42:13out, I'm gonna finish.
- 42:15And I showed last year that
- 42:16I could be pretty competitive
- 42:19before it was just like,
- 42:21we're just happy to be here.
- 42:22We wanna finish and do okay.
- 42:24And now I'm like, all
- 42:25right, I need to do better.
- 42:27So yes, the catheter is a thing,
- 42:29but guys, they have
- 42:31options, things can go over,
- 42:33they don't have to just go inside.
- 42:35Oh my goodness.
- 42:35Yeah, so girls, they
- 42:37have some new designs
- 42:39that are a little bit nicer,
- 42:40but it's questionable if it stays.
- 42:43And like gluing something to your body
- 42:46and being bounced around
- 42:48in a race car for 10 hours.
- 42:49Oh, that's horrible.
- 42:51It's not great, so I don't know.
- 42:54I just don't trust it either.
- 42:56My luck, I just know it
- 42:59probably is gonna fail.
- 43:01So I actually-- Well, you should
- 43:01need to try them, you
- 43:02need to start trying them.
- 43:03Just walk around the
- 43:04house with the catheter on
- 43:05and see how it works out.
- 43:07My suit design is something
- 43:09that I take into consideration
- 43:11and I tell people this, I'm like,
- 43:13I have a lot of design and
- 43:16artwork and stuff on my suit.
- 43:18So I try to pick colors and styles
- 43:20that if there is an
- 43:21accident, it kinda hides it.
- 43:24Yeah, yeah, so the current
- 43:27suit doesn't hide it as well,
- 43:29I would say, but if I have that happen,
- 43:33I'm just gonna pour water all
- 43:34over myself before I get out.
- 43:36Team, get the Gator razor in.
- 43:38So if you see me covered in water,
- 43:39you can re-clip this in.
- 43:42I give you permission
- 43:43to make a reel out of it.
- 43:45Ruby Peter self is what
- 43:48you can put out there.
- 43:49Hey, when you're racing,
- 43:50I don't, peeing is the
- 43:51last thing you carry,
- 43:53I don't know what to think about, seriously.
- 43:55Winning is the whole thing.
- 43:57All right, so again, I told you,
- 44:00you called a timeout
- 44:01on any of these things.
- 44:02So when you're doing the catheter,
- 44:05is that a medical professional, yourself,
- 44:08or maybe a close friend?
- 44:10I think it depends on the person.
- 44:12I'm talking about for you.
- 44:15So my husband was airborne and he was--
- 44:19Oh, he was a medic, wasn't he?
- 44:21If you look up Joe Coonch,
- 44:23you'll find pictures
- 44:24and videos of my husband
- 44:25treating Afghani children.
- 44:27So if I need a
- 44:29professional, medical professional,
- 44:31I'm married to one.
- 44:33I would be so nervous.
- 44:35Even if I did it all the time,
- 44:38I would be so nervous with my wife.
- 44:41Yeah, probably.
- 44:43But I mean, if you're
- 44:44a medical professional,
- 44:45like you're not, so he, I don't know,
- 44:48things don't bother.
- 44:49I'm a diabetic and I give myself
- 44:54obviously injections
- 44:55and I'm anemic as well.
- 44:57So I have lupus, so
- 44:58basically my blood's all messed up.
- 45:01So I stabbed myself a lot,
- 45:02but initially when I
- 45:03first had to stab myself,
- 45:05I was like, I can't do it.
- 45:06And so I would make Joe do it.
- 45:07And then eventually I
- 45:08was like, screw this,
- 45:09I'm just gonna do it.
- 45:10Because he wasn't
- 45:11that, he was not gentle.
- 45:15People are dying and I
- 45:16don't have time to be gentle.
- 45:17Yeah, exactly.
- 45:18Or he's like, I'm like, I just tell him,
- 45:20I'm not your soldier,
- 45:21dude, be nice to me.
- 45:24Is it type one or type two?
- 45:27Type one.
- 45:28You know they got a cure.
- 45:30I'm sure you've seen that.
- 45:32I mean, no telling how
- 45:33long it'll be available
- 45:34or how much it'll cost.
- 45:35They literally have a
- 45:36cure, it's wonderful.
- 45:38There's a lot of cures
- 45:39out there too though.
- 45:40I don't know.
- 45:41I kind of like Gen one
- 45:43of like a drive train.
- 45:46I don't wanna be the test dummy.
- 45:49There's a lot of things out
- 45:51there that should be good,
- 45:53but down the road we learn.
- 45:55Well, it's the islet. There are things
- 45:56that are not great.
- 45:57It's the islet cell
- 45:58thing that I'm talking about
- 45:59where they actually, it's
- 46:00like an organ transplant
- 46:02that they put in there.
- 46:03So, but I think with that too though,
- 46:05you need rejection drugs.
- 46:07And so I had a tumor in my throat,
- 46:13living in Hawaii during Fukushima,
- 46:15radiation, so my thyroid,
- 46:18I had to have that removed
- 46:19and I lost my parathyroid.
- 46:21So they transplanted
- 46:22them and I am one of like
- 46:25less than 10 cases ever documented
- 46:27that I had spontaneous parathyroid
- 46:29function 10 years later.
- 46:31But the previous 10 years,
- 46:33I had seizures all the time.
- 46:36So they were doing
- 46:38parathyroid transplants
- 46:39and I was looking at that,
- 46:40but I would have to
- 46:41be on rejection drugs.
- 46:43And rejection drugs are
- 46:44really hard on your body.
- 46:45So I think just keeping my body healthy
- 46:50and stabbing it when I have to is--
- 46:53Well, I'm very hopeful for you.
- 46:55I hope that, because
- 46:56I think the type one,
- 46:57I have type two and type two
- 46:59is the way you live your life.
- 47:01But type one isn't and I love the idea
- 47:05that especially children with type one,
- 47:07potentially I'm not
- 47:08having to go through that.
- 47:10All right, so anyway,
- 47:11off the medical stuff,
- 47:13onto the thing that gets me--
- 47:15It's not run at all.
- 47:16Oh, I know.
- 47:17The thing that gets me
- 47:18is that you got the 97 TJ
- 47:22that is your ultra four racer.
- 47:24Is that also the king
- 47:25of the hammers vehicle?
- 47:27Yeah, so ultra four and king of hammers
- 47:30are the same series.
- 47:31Okay, I'm sorry, I'm not
- 47:32into any kind of racing.
- 47:34So that, I mean, you
- 47:37have more than one Jeep,
- 47:38but I love my Jeeps.
- 47:40And I don't want to tear my Jeep up.
- 47:43Yeah, so I have a--
- 47:45You wanna finish the race
- 47:46and you don't wanna tear something up.
- 47:48How was it for you,
- 47:50especially putting time and effort
- 47:51in building that
- 47:52Jeep, to take it out there
- 47:54and potentially trash the thing?
- 47:56That's fine.
- 47:57That's why I built the TJ for the race.
- 47:59Cause initially, so I
- 48:00have a 2020 EcoDiesel
- 48:02that I thought I was gonna
- 48:04turn that into a race car.
- 48:06And then Kevin Stearns,
- 48:07he's raced the unlimited class
- 48:10and he's won a bunch of other classes.
- 48:11He's like, people are gonna see your Jeep
- 48:14and they're gonna hit you
- 48:14just cause it's so nice.
- 48:16Don't do that.
- 48:17Right.
- 48:19And it's funny because I'm
- 48:21actually gonna be selling
- 48:22the diesel soon and it's super built.
- 48:24Like I've got custom axles, suspension,
- 48:28it's freaking money
- 48:29and the thing just walks.
- 48:31But it's so much money
- 48:33to roll and to jack up.
- 48:35Now I have the
- 48:36ability to build these cars.
- 48:39Why would I roll that?
- 48:40I just, she's just
- 48:42sitting in the driveway.
- 48:43So yeah, like my
- 48:46co-drivers are great too.
- 48:48Like if we're in
- 48:49something very technical and slow,
- 48:51Bryce will be like, I
- 48:51don't wanna get into the body.
- 48:53And if we're trying
- 48:54to just get through it
- 48:55and especially if I'm like, let's go.
- 48:57I'm like, I don't care
- 48:57about the body, whatever.
- 48:59Like let's just go.
- 49:01I have, like my fenders,
- 49:03Nemesis made my fenders
- 49:04and I have been, I've used
- 49:07those as skid plates, rolling,
- 49:09like all the things,
- 49:12they are still great.
- 49:13They're aluminum, they're super strong.
- 49:14So I don't know, I've not been kind to it
- 49:18and it still looks good.
- 49:19Yeah, well, I think you
- 49:20have to have that mindset.
- 49:21You can't go out there
- 49:23second guessing yourself
- 49:24simply because you don't
- 49:25wanna bend or break something.
- 49:26You wanna continue the
- 49:27race, but at some point,
- 49:29you just have to be a
- 49:30racer and do what you're doing.
- 49:32Now, like I said, I don't
- 49:33know a lot about racing.
- 49:34I don't know a lot about
- 49:35racing only from my street days
- 49:38with my Nova and my 327,
- 49:40all the crap I did to it.
- 49:42I guess it's a good
- 49:42thing I couldn't afford
- 49:43a Hurst quick change rear end
- 49:45and four 10 or four 11s for the Nova.
- 49:48I guess it's good that that happened
- 49:49because I'd probably be dead.
- 49:51But it's actually the
- 49:52reason why I got into Jeeps
- 49:53because people, if you're
- 49:54in a Jeep, they still do,
- 49:56but mostly they don't try to race you.
- 49:59I've just gone from not
- 50:01racing or ignoring them
- 50:03because it's kind of
- 50:03drifting over into their lane
- 50:05and it scares the hell
- 50:07out of the little Hondas.
- 50:08(laughing)
- 50:11Good Lord, this has been
- 50:12such a fun conversation.
- 50:15And people think I'm just saying this,
- 50:18gonna have to have you back.
- 50:19There's a really lot of fun.
- 50:20Literally, I feel like
- 50:22hardly touched on anything.
- 50:23I know, I know.
- 50:25You've been awesome to talk to
- 50:26and very easy to talk to, so.
- 50:28Thank you, but my wife is
- 50:29still surprised by that.
- 50:31Great.
- 50:31She says, "I don't like anybody."
- 50:34(laughing) Well, it's like we were
- 50:35talking before we got started.
- 50:37There's so much stuff out there
- 50:38that I don't give a shit about,
- 50:39what you're doing,
- 50:40your hobbies, whatever.
- 50:43But if you're doing
- 50:44something that I'm a part of
- 50:46and I'm knowledgeable about,
- 50:47I'll actually, I'll talk your ear off.
- 50:50Anyway, I'm sorry.
- 50:51So you know how the
- 50:52kids love the social media.
- 50:54Where can people find you online?
- 50:57And if it's just look for Send It Ruby
- 51:00or Send It Media?
- 51:03So Send It Ruby,
- 51:04R-U-B-I, is on all the socials.
- 51:07And then YouTube,
- 51:08which I'm always editing,
- 51:11but getting it out
- 51:12there, I'm not the best,
- 51:14is you can either find it on Send It Ruby
- 51:17or Send It Nation.
- 51:18Send It Nation is the
- 51:20race program that we have
- 51:21and it's also kind of
- 51:22like a community effort.
- 51:25So we, you know, not
- 51:27just to squirrel on you,
- 51:28but the whole reason
- 51:30that I'm still racing
- 51:31and building this is I
- 51:32wanna give kids and adults
- 51:35seats, spots on pit
- 51:37crews, teaching them to weld,
- 51:39teaching them the business side of
- 51:40things, all the things.
- 51:41And also Send It Nation is a community.
- 51:44So if you are new to
- 51:46off-roading and you have no friends,
- 51:48guess what?
- 51:49I can help you find some.
- 51:51As you know, the off-road
- 51:52community is super friendly
- 51:54and it's definitely a family,
- 51:56but sometimes finding
- 51:57that family is kind of hard.
- 51:59So I want everybody to have a home,
- 52:02have a seat at the table, if you will.
- 52:04So, you know, people reach out to me
- 52:06if you have questions about off-roading,
- 52:08what are the things
- 52:09you need for your vehicle
- 52:10that are a must, how to go about things.
- 52:12And you just, you wanna have safe places
- 52:16and environments to wheel and to grow.
- 52:18We help connect
- 52:19people if you're not local
- 52:20or somewhere we're gonna be.
- 52:22That's one of the things that we do too.
- 52:25Send It Ruby, R-U-B-I,
- 52:26and then we have a website.
- 52:28If you have any questions and
- 52:29you don't like social media,
- 52:31senditnation.com.
- 52:33There is a contact box,
- 52:34goes right to my email.
- 52:36We can chat.
- 52:38It also has event schedule, merch.
- 52:40I teach welding for free at certain expos
- 52:44throughout the year.
- 52:44So it's an opportunity to
- 52:46connect with us on that.
- 52:47Or if you have an event
- 52:48you want us to come do it at,
- 52:50message us on there as well.
- 52:52I'm glad you mentioned that stuff.
- 52:54We don't have the level of guests
- 52:57that actually goes
- 52:58places that can be seen
- 53:00or be watched at some event.
- 53:02So I'm glad you mentioned that
- 53:03because I need to ask the question.
- 53:05Where can people, what's next for you?
- 53:07You're gonna be at SEMA.
- 53:09Are you gonna be at a booth
- 53:10where people can come
- 53:11by and say hello or?
- 53:13Yeah, so I have a big autograph signing
- 53:15with Lincoln Electric on
- 53:18Wednesday at two o'clock.
- 53:20Do you weld it like
- 53:21on metal with a stick?
- 53:23With a stick welder?
- 53:24I do stick weld, yeah.
- 53:26That would be great autograph to have.
- 53:28Right?
- 53:29No, I think we're gonna autograph
- 53:31some special license
- 53:32plates for the first few people
- 53:35or I don't know how many they have.
- 53:36It's going to be me
- 53:37and a few other girls.
- 53:38So we have Cynthia Gautier.
- 53:39She drives the Lucas Oil Monster Truck.
- 53:43Monique Embrezi, she's a
- 53:44drag racer, Chloe Hudson.
- 53:45She's an AWS CWI,
- 53:48which welding inspector.
- 53:50We have Maddie Gordon
- 53:51from Ron Cap's Motorsports
- 53:55with us this year.
- 53:56And so it's gonna be me and a few girls
- 53:58and usually we give stuff away.
- 54:00So that's at two
- 54:00o'clock on Wednesday at SEMA.
- 54:03I'll be at PRI, which is that racing expo
- 54:09that's in Indy in December.
- 54:12I'll have an autograph signing there.
- 54:14And then I'm just
- 54:15traveling the rest of the year
- 54:16just doing some
- 54:17different promotional stuff.
- 54:20Going to different races, et cetera.
- 54:21But next year, we're
- 54:23always at Trail Hero.
- 54:24It's where we live.
- 54:25I'll be at Jeep Beach, King of Hammers,
- 54:28Smoky Mountain Jeep Invasion.
- 54:31And then I'm probably
- 54:34gonna go to Bike Week and Race,
- 54:36which Jeep people
- 54:38like bikes to sometimes.
- 54:39So yeah, we're just, we
- 54:42have the calendar this year.
- 54:43And it's funny, I came
- 54:44back from Tennessee in August
- 54:46and was like, we're home finally,
- 54:48because I've been gone all year.
- 54:50And then we're just gone.
- 54:51So I don't know what
- 54:52next year looks like.
- 54:54That's what it's at at the moment,
- 54:56but I'm sure we're gonna add things.
- 54:58So you're doing a lot of hotel stuff.
- 55:00What's your favorite
- 55:01food to have at the hotel?
- 55:03Please don't say pizza.
- 55:07It depends on what I'm doing.
- 55:09So if I'm on camera, like--
- 55:11There's not something that you go,
- 55:12oh, I especially
- 55:13would have the same place
- 55:15that you've been before.
- 55:16That Salisbury steak was so good.
- 55:18My favorite thing to eat in,
- 55:20okay, if you go to
- 55:21Smokey Mountain Jeep Invasion,
- 55:22which is Pigeon Forge, Tennessee,
- 55:25Windrock is close by Killer Wheeling.
- 55:27So if you go to that area,
- 55:29the best quesadilla I've
- 55:31ever had out of my life
- 55:32at the Carne Asada Quesadilla,
- 55:35and oh my gosh, why am
- 55:36I forgetting the name?
- 55:38I literally, when I went to
- 55:41Smokey Mountain this year,
- 55:42I ate it every day.
- 55:45I love that.
- 55:46Quesadilla and Pigeon Forge, Tennessee.
- 55:48Hold on.
- 55:51Sure. I know.
- 55:52No, it's fine.
- 55:53Quesadilla, Pigeon Forge, Tennessee.
- 55:59It is, I know as soon as I see,
- 56:02I'm like, yes, that's what it is.
- 56:03Oh yeah.
- 56:05Shoot, Gorilla Taco.
- 56:08Gorilla Taco, I wish it was a chain.
- 56:10It is the best quesadilla ever.
- 56:13I don't know, I live on,
- 56:16like this body is
- 56:17built on burgers and steak.
- 56:19I'm allergic to
- 56:20chicken, fun fact, so I eat--
- 56:22Oh, do you know Greg Henderson?
- 56:24He's a builder, he's a SEMA builder.
- 56:26He does a lot of stuff in Michigan.
- 56:28I'm sure if I saw him, I'd suck at--
- 56:30I have never, he's a
- 56:31kilt, he always wears a kilt,
- 56:33especially when he's out
- 56:35like at SEMA and stuff.
- 56:36Anyway, I couldn't believe that he is
- 56:38allergic to chicken.
- 56:39I've never heard of such a thing.
- 56:40Yeah, it's the, a lot of the,
- 56:44so there's two different
- 56:45ways you can be allergic to it.
- 56:46I'm allergic to the way they process it.
- 56:49I've learned, so if it's air chilled,
- 56:52I can eat it and not have a reaction,
- 56:55but I haven't eaten chicken,
- 56:56I ate chicken the first
- 56:57time in like years last week,
- 56:59and it just felt weird.
- 57:00So I don't think I'm gonna eat it again.
- 57:02I'll just stick to steak.
- 57:04So you know Baja Designs, right?
- 57:06Yes, they're one of my sponsors, yeah.
- 57:08Are they?
- 57:09I forget the gentleman's name,
- 57:10had him on probably a
- 57:11year or two years ago,
- 57:12and we got to talk about--
- 57:13Is it West?
- 57:14I'm not sure.
- 57:16I think it's him and some
- 57:21other guys were owners of,
- 57:24was it Rugridge, Rugged Ridge?
- 57:26And then they sold the company,
- 57:27and then he started the Baja Designs.
- 57:29Anyway, I thought it
- 57:30was really, really cool
- 57:31that he's a big Nachos fan,
- 57:33and he was talking about the Nachos,
- 57:36like you're talking
- 57:36about the KCDAs, that's fine.
- 57:39I'm just too interested
- 57:40in food, but not just food.
- 57:41I love food, that's my
- 57:43favorite part of traveling,
- 57:44and that's like the biggest
- 57:46benefit to going to Vegas,
- 57:47because like Vegas is whatever.
- 57:49Well, it's like a road trip.
- 57:50A road trip is licensed to eat bad,
- 57:52and get all the stuff
- 57:54that you would normally eat.
- 57:56Well, I think if you
- 57:57don't drink especially,
- 57:59like you need horsepower,
- 58:01good food, and yeah, brooks.
- 58:06That's my happiness.
- 58:08Obviously, we could sit here
- 58:09and have a Joe Rogan three hour episode.
- 58:11So I'm gonna wrap this up.
- 58:12Thank you so much for being here.
- 58:14It sounds like you're
- 58:15having a great life,
- 58:16and continued success.
- 58:18And yeah, so hopefully
- 58:20you can join us again here
- 58:22really, really soon.
- 58:23You know, we have the interviews weekly,
- 58:25so don't be shy.
- 58:28We always do that interview.
- 58:30Well, maybe we could
- 58:31have send a Joe next time,
- 58:33and maybe we could do
- 58:34a little hammers recap,
- 58:36because at that point,
- 58:37we'll know where we're
- 58:38gonna be most of the year.
- 58:40Maybe we can get Joe
- 58:42to give us a hand signal
- 58:45if you're feeling
- 58:46threatened about talking freely.
- 58:49Blink twice.
- 58:50I actually said that
- 58:51in a meeting yesterday.
- 58:53No, I said it.
- 58:54I had a meeting with Milestar yesterday,
- 58:56and the guy wasn't talking.
- 58:57I was like, "Hey, blink
- 58:58twice if you're safe."
- 58:59And he was just like,
- 59:01"You can talk, dude."
- 59:03Yeah, all right, thank you so much.
- 59:05We'll let you run.
- 59:06Thank you. Have a great day.
- 59:07Yeah, continued success.
- 59:09Thank you.
- 59:10And we're gonna weld,
- 59:11so let's make it happen.
- 59:13You're my friend, you're my new friend.
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