Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Happy Hour #102: SMNTY, You Sloppy
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. They're welcome to stuff
- 0:07Speaker 1: I never told you, protection of iHeart Radio, and welcome
- 0:19Speaker 1: to our first recording of twenty three. So if we
- 0:22Speaker 1: are rusty, bear with us. Hey, that's my theme song
- 0:27Speaker 1: for life. I'm always rusty. I recorded with Savor for
- 0:31Speaker 1: the first time of the year yesterday and it was
- 0:33Speaker 1: not good. Like, why did I lose everything I know
- 0:37Speaker 1: over the s fan of like one week? Anyway, I'm
- 0:43Speaker 1: We're all working it out, working it out. Happy New Year, everybody,
- 0:47Speaker 1: This is our first happy hour of the year. Also, um,
- 0:51Speaker 1: as always with these, drink responsibly. Well are you sipping on, Samantha,
- 0:56Speaker 1: I am actually drinking something that you gave me Christmas. Um.
- 1:02Speaker 1: It is the Anna Green Gables Tea. So the Anna
- 1:06Speaker 1: Green Tea Gables, yes, which I'm assuming is yes, um,
- 1:13Speaker 1: and it's from y'all. I'm trying to read it off
- 1:16Speaker 1: and I'm in a dark part of my office and
- 1:18Speaker 1: I can't see, so band with me as I try
- 1:20Speaker 1: to read this off. It is from novelty Tens dot com.
- 1:24Speaker 1: M that's the site, and it is a green tea
- 1:28Speaker 1: with orange pill raspberry pieces and natural flavor. So I'm
- 1:32Speaker 1: trying to be all natural moderate caffeine, also trying to
- 1:36Speaker 1: be caffeinated because that is the new year. Am I right?
- 1:38Speaker 1: Am I right? Yeah? So far that's been my experience.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Um well, I'm continuing to drink red wine out of
- 1:48Speaker 1: a box. Yeah, read read every time. Yeah, I know
- 1:53Speaker 1: you can't not do it. And I don't know that
- 1:55Speaker 1: I've ever heard that song, but I've seen a parody
- 1:57Speaker 1: of that song. Really the song today, Oh perfect, excellent.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Then you will never stop singing it no matter what. Well,
- 2:06Speaker 1: that's going to benefit both of us. So this is
- 2:10Speaker 1: a topic I want to talk about. I will say
- 2:13Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna go too much into it,
- 2:15Speaker 1: but um there might We talked around like weight and eating.
- 2:19Speaker 1: So if that's especially around this time of year. If
- 2:21Speaker 1: that's not what you want to hear, understand, I don't
- 2:23Speaker 1: think we're gonna go too much into it, but might
- 2:25Speaker 1: we might. Uh. And this is actually something that would
- 2:27Speaker 1: have been I wrote this forever Agot like wrote I
- 2:29Speaker 1: wrote bullet points for it forever ago. These are much
- 2:32Speaker 1: less structured than our full episodes. Um, but it was
- 2:36Speaker 1: it was because of parties, like going out of parties
- 2:39Speaker 1: and hang out with people. This is something that occasionally
- 2:44Speaker 1: I just feel, and I definitely felt it more lately
- 2:48Speaker 1: because I'm talking about this whole idea of being like
- 2:50Speaker 1: the sloppy not even drunk, but just like the sloppy
- 2:54Speaker 1: person in a group. And I feel like I've just
- 2:58Speaker 1: had so many experience is recently because I have gained
- 3:01Speaker 1: weight during the pandemic um and I just mostly wear
- 3:05Speaker 1: the same thing. I change it up every now and then,
- 3:09Speaker 1: but generally the same kind of like T shirt, leggings.
- 3:13Speaker 1: I feel like you dress up more than I do,
- 3:15Speaker 1: so I'm worry I would disagree. Really, I feel like
- 3:20Speaker 1: when I'm around you, though, I feel very comfortable, so
- 3:23Speaker 1: I don't dress up. But that's that's what I'm saying.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Like when we go out, I always like you're more
- 3:27Speaker 1: dressed up than I am. I'm casually all the all
- 3:30Speaker 1: the time. Same And because I wear helled boots, people
- 3:32Speaker 1: think I'm fancy. You know, I'm just short and I
- 3:35Speaker 1: like killed boots. Like that's well, yeah, there's like a
- 3:40Speaker 1: theme to your outfit, and I'm like, hey, black, but
- 3:45Speaker 1: isn't my theme? Like Star Wars well sometimes and then
- 3:49Speaker 1: there's Spider Verse, and then there's last of us. You
- 3:52Speaker 1: do like the undercover cosplay all the time. I actually,
- 3:56Speaker 1: I think that's been my main theme during the pantomick,
- 4:00Speaker 1: Like clothing during the pandemic has been like very subtle
- 4:02Speaker 1: cosplay all the time. I love it. It's not so subtle. Well, see,
- 4:06Speaker 1: that's the thing. I love it too. And most of
- 4:09Speaker 1: the time I'm very secure and like maybe very secureity strong.
- 4:13Speaker 1: But most of the time I'm either too tired or
- 4:15Speaker 1: I don't care what other people think that I'm wearing
- 4:18Speaker 1: essentially cosplay, essentially pajamas, um out and about. But I've
- 4:23Speaker 1: had because we were going out more at the end
- 4:26Speaker 1: of the year, I had a couple of instances where
- 4:27Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I wonder if that's how people
- 4:31Speaker 1: see me. And I think one of the big things
- 4:34Speaker 1: was like at one at one event, I wore a
- 4:38Speaker 1: dress that I'm pretty sure it was pretty sea through
- 4:40Speaker 1: when I was wearing like a braw and underwear. It
- 4:43Speaker 1: wasn't like naked under it. But I had somebody like
- 4:47Speaker 1: a friend of mine, very kindly, because you do want
- 4:49Speaker 1: to know that stuff, say you know, hey, you can
- 4:51Speaker 1: kind of see through it, And I really didn't care,
- 4:53Speaker 1: and it was kind of a weird moment of like
- 4:55Speaker 1: should I care? Maybe I should. I'm glad to know,
- 5:00Speaker 1: but it was like a weird I just had to
- 5:02Speaker 1: kind of disconnect between I honestly was like, okay, but
- 5:09Speaker 1: should I care? And this has been this has been
- 5:12Speaker 1: something we should revisit because I keep seeing headlines about
- 5:14Speaker 1: celebrities that are wearing c through things and We're getting
- 5:17Speaker 1: so much attention and I'm kind of perplexed by the
- 5:21Speaker 1: whole thing. But anyway, that was something. And then I'm
- 5:24Speaker 1: just like worn clothes that I know are too small
- 5:27Speaker 1: for me because again I gained weight, but I also
- 5:29Speaker 1: really don't care. Um that I had somebody mentioned that,
- 5:34Speaker 1: like the side game situation, Okay, I was like, what
- 5:37Speaker 1: what did who said this? Okay, no, no, no, no no.
- 5:44Speaker 1: And it's like, generally because that is a good thing
- 5:47Speaker 1: when a trusted friend can tell you just so you know, hey,
- 5:51Speaker 1: here's this. Um. I think it's more like it's like
- 5:57Speaker 1: I'm coming out of a dream of this pandemic of
- 6:00Speaker 1: what I did before and what I do now, and
- 6:03Speaker 1: now I don't care. And I feel like that's fine.
- 6:09Speaker 1: But sometimes I'm like, hmmmm, it seems like people are
- 6:12Speaker 1: still worried about these things, right, I think, yeah, I'm
- 6:17Speaker 1: I'm with you on that because I do care to
- 6:19Speaker 1: a certain degree of like I try to not look
- 6:22Speaker 1: so from people, but that's kind of how I dress.
- 6:25Speaker 1: I don't mean to. It's just because I like way
- 6:26Speaker 1: a large things and I'm tired of trying to h
- 6:30Speaker 1: be cutely. And I have also gained a lot of
- 6:32Speaker 1: weight during the pandemic. And I say a lot of
- 6:34Speaker 1: weight because I've lost I had lost a lot of
- 6:35Speaker 1: weight right before, and it was due to depression, so
- 6:38Speaker 1: it wasn't healthy anyway. But believe me, I got all
- 6:41Speaker 1: the compliments and I have a stigma about that, and
- 6:43Speaker 1: we've talked about that before. And now I'm like, okay,
- 6:46Speaker 1: I don't one of the things, uh, convenience wise, because
- 6:51Speaker 1: I had lost all that weight. So I started getting
- 6:53Speaker 1: really excited, even though it wasn't a good way. And
- 6:56Speaker 1: I got the new clothes and now I cannot fit
- 6:59Speaker 1: into those clothes. That also reverted reverted back to the
- 7:02Speaker 1: old clothes that got didn't throw those away, um, and
- 7:05Speaker 1: then it even bought like really uh better clothes like
- 7:08Speaker 1: that actually are supposed to fit me and they are
- 7:10Speaker 1: absally supposed to be nice quality and I had to
- 7:12Speaker 1: get a bigger side, you know that that felt some
- 7:14Speaker 1: type of way. But at the same time, like, yeah,
- 7:16Speaker 1: I don't care, like I just I'm going to wear
- 7:18Speaker 1: that big sweater. I'm gonna wear the T shirt that
- 7:20Speaker 1: I tie in and not with a lot of I've
- 7:22Speaker 1: always been a cardigan girl, so that's my thing. But
- 7:25Speaker 1: I do look like a grandma hunched over with my
- 7:29Speaker 1: giant UH sweaters. But yeah, it's kind of like, yeah,
- 7:32Speaker 1: this is who I am. Enjoy it, deal with it. Uh.
- 7:36Speaker 1: And for the longest time, because I was so ashamed
- 7:38Speaker 1: of my body, I didn't want to buy clothes in
- 7:40Speaker 1: my size because it felt like at the feet and
- 7:42Speaker 1: it felt hurtful just to think about it because of
- 7:44Speaker 1: the stigma behind UH those sizes, and even embarrassment to
- 7:48Speaker 1: check out UH at the register because I don't want
- 7:50Speaker 1: them to see what size it is, and then feeling
- 7:53Speaker 1: like but if I actually wear clothes my size, I
- 7:57Speaker 1: look better, you know what I mean? Right? And so
- 8:01Speaker 1: like going back and forth of like all these levels
- 8:04Speaker 1: of trying to figure this out, and yeah, we've been
- 8:06Speaker 1: coming out more recently as in fact, I had a
- 8:09Speaker 1: wedding in November, so I had to dress a dress
- 8:12Speaker 1: up and I'm like, this is my nightmare, right, I
- 8:16Speaker 1: wore a poncho. Well, that's the thing is there's so much,
- 8:20Speaker 1: so much here that we've talked about that we could unpack.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Of like you feel judged for wearing clothes that are
- 8:26Speaker 1: quote too tight and then clothes that are quote to loose,
- 8:28Speaker 1: because that implies that you're not comfortable with your body,
- 8:31Speaker 1: even though that might be your most comfortable state. And
- 8:33Speaker 1: then like one thing I've noticed, and we've talked about
- 8:36Speaker 1: this before too, is my boobs feel a lot bigger
- 8:43Speaker 1: and Michael, which they are, but it's like they shouldn't
- 8:45Speaker 1: feel so embarrassing to me, but they are. And I know,
- 8:49Speaker 1: like we've talked about that. We've talked about that ad
- 8:51Speaker 1: length of like people with bigger boobs can't find clothes,
- 8:54Speaker 1: and then when they do, people judge them for being
- 8:56Speaker 1: like too sexual at work or whatever. Um. So it's
- 8:59Speaker 1: just like it's been interesting. Um. I'm also kind of
- 9:05Speaker 1: unwilling to get a whole new wardrobe. Um, other than
- 9:10Speaker 1: like sweatpants, which I bought some d I've been buying
- 9:15Speaker 1: T shirts and I haven't even I don't even wear
- 9:18Speaker 1: T shirts like that. Like typically I used to just
- 9:20Speaker 1: not wear those. I would wear like a little more
- 9:23Speaker 1: fancy or like button up shirts or whatever. And now
- 9:25Speaker 1: that I'm like, teachers are great. Also because I hate
- 9:28Speaker 1: people reading things off my chest, which is where usually
- 9:31Speaker 1: the logos go or whatever is happening, because it makes
- 9:34Speaker 1: me so self conscious. Growing up, I hated it because
- 9:37Speaker 1: it made me so self conscious. Of course, this has
- 9:39Speaker 1: a lot to do with trauma, so mean, sexualized as
- 9:43Speaker 1: an Asian woman, all of those things. So I definitely
- 9:46Speaker 1: it took me a long time to be like, oh,
- 9:48Speaker 1: but these are so comfortable. T shirts are so great. Yeah, yeah,
- 9:53Speaker 1: me too. My mom and I were joking about that
- 9:55Speaker 1: ever this recent break because I remember when I is
- 10:00Speaker 1: in high school, we had a conversation together I would
- 10:02Speaker 1: have been high school, it had been early college um,
- 10:04Speaker 1: where she was like, you know, you never wear logos
- 10:06Speaker 1: in your shirt and I don't either, and I was like, yeah,
- 10:08Speaker 1: I just kind of like to be bland and fit in,
- 10:10Speaker 1: and now all I do is like where soar shirts.
- 10:15Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, You've made a big change. I
- 10:17Speaker 1: like it. I was like, oh, thanks. The level of
- 10:19Speaker 1: confidence there's so many things to unpack with them, like
- 10:22Speaker 1: placements of things like that and what we want to
- 10:25Speaker 1: talk about, especially for those who do have breasts UM
- 10:29Speaker 1: in general. But I do find it fascinating and I
- 10:32Speaker 1: think something that we're going to come back on UM
- 10:35Speaker 1: is this trend UH swaying and we've talked about before
- 10:39Speaker 1: swaying back to the whole skinny body look and the
- 10:43Speaker 1: new diet fat of taking UM the diabetic medication shots,
- 10:48Speaker 1: which is two fold of like, why are you doing
- 10:51Speaker 1: this to people with diabetes and why are you doing
- 10:53Speaker 1: this to normal people who are seeing unrealistic expectations of
- 10:57Speaker 1: this UM. And I hate that we're reverting back to
- 11:01Speaker 1: that because it finally came to the point that we are,
- 11:03Speaker 1: I feel not completely because there's still people out there
- 11:06Speaker 1: who are awful when it comes to body image who
- 11:10Speaker 1: UM have not let go of the fact that skinny
- 11:14Speaker 1: does not mean it's healthy. Conversation UM, but that that
- 11:20Speaker 1: we're back to this again and having to fight back
- 11:22Speaker 1: and just finally getting to the point of like people
- 11:24Speaker 1: are understanding this healthy looks for different from different people,
- 11:28Speaker 1: and then it's not our place to judge in general
- 11:31Speaker 1: how people feel about themselves, like even if that is
- 11:34Speaker 1: they do want to lose weight or they don't want
- 11:36Speaker 1: to lose weight or whatever whatever whatnot, UM. And I
- 11:40Speaker 1: hate that we're going back to there, and I think
- 11:42Speaker 1: it's something that we should all be very cautious of
- 11:44Speaker 1: in the conversations UM today because complimenting and I'm not
- 11:49Speaker 1: going to call out who it was who used to
- 11:52Speaker 1: be kind of she was normal looking, she was normal
- 11:55Speaker 1: looking woman and then she has lost all this weight
- 11:58Speaker 1: and we're like, it is in insinuated that she has
- 12:01Speaker 1: used this product, and like everybody's complimenting on her, Like
- 12:05Speaker 1: you need to back up because she looks unhealthy at
- 12:07Speaker 1: this point because it's not her natural body form. I'm
- 12:10Speaker 1: not judging the fact that she wanted to lose weight,
- 12:12Speaker 1: but what she's doing, how she's doing it, and how
- 12:14Speaker 1: she's letting people think that it was all natural. That's
- 12:18Speaker 1: some BS and that's so dangerous for the standards of
- 12:21Speaker 1: where we are today and for the young kids they
- 12:23Speaker 1: got this gen Z years no better, but still yeah,
- 12:26Speaker 1: it's still very insidious and harmful messaging. And it's it's
- 12:29Speaker 1: like everywhere and I was thinking to you about like
- 12:46Speaker 1: there's so many jokes around women typically like oh, she
- 12:52Speaker 1: thinks she can pull that off. R oh she thinks
- 12:54Speaker 1: she can wear that, she doesn't realize she can't wear that.
- 12:56Speaker 1: And I was thinking about that just with um. I
- 12:57Speaker 1: hear that a lot with cosplay because people like to
- 13:02Speaker 1: judge women in cosplay a lot um And and I
- 13:09Speaker 1: also would say there's a lot there's a risk I've
- 13:11Speaker 1: seen of like backhanded compliments, right, I think people are
- 13:15Speaker 1: coming from the right place, but they'll essentially I got
- 13:18Speaker 1: one that was like, I've always wanted to embrace my
- 13:21Speaker 1: camel to like you do. And I was like, whoa,
- 13:24Speaker 1: my one camel too? What Well, that was one of
- 13:34Speaker 1: those things where I didn't even notice and now I'm like, oh, well,
- 13:37Speaker 1: I've never noticed that on you. Well well, I mean
- 13:40Speaker 1: also it's kind of like yeah, yeah, but it was
- 13:50Speaker 1: lit comfortable around them from there, and I'm like, what
- 13:52Speaker 1: you look at bro, Yeah yeah, but you know, I'm
- 13:55Speaker 1: pretty sure that a broad But still I was out.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I was at walking today and I was just like
- 13:59Speaker 1: so comfortable. But it's just those things that like lodge
- 14:03Speaker 1: in your head, um about people making comments about your body.
- 14:07Speaker 1: So I wish can we just not do that anymore.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Let's not even for it as a compliment. Let's just
- 14:15Speaker 1: leave it be. You want to say you look good,
- 14:19Speaker 1: that's the don't give specifics. Look good in a genuine tone.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Not you look happy, you looked at it. You look
- 14:30Speaker 1: well rested? How about that? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know.
- 14:36Speaker 1: It's just been kind of adjustment and I'm still working
- 14:40Speaker 1: it out. And then I also was kind of one
- 14:42Speaker 1: thing we didn't get to talk about during our epic
- 14:45Speaker 1: holiday movie discussion. Oh yeah, um was there was a
- 14:50Speaker 1: moment and while you were sleeping where uh, Sandra Block's
- 14:54Speaker 1: character is like older and single, um, older, but it's
- 14:59Speaker 1: implied that she late twenties. Yeah, but it's implied that
- 15:04Speaker 1: like she's an old spinster. Yes, And there's like the
- 15:09Speaker 1: whole idea because she's single during the holidays, you'll do
- 15:11Speaker 1: the work. And then there's that scene where she's like
- 15:13Speaker 1: eating the oreos and I don't know, mac and cheese
- 15:16Speaker 1: or something. Um, And so I'm trying I'm still trying
- 15:19Speaker 1: to wrap my mind around this idea also of like
- 15:22Speaker 1: being this still older single person that like goes out
- 15:26Speaker 1: to all of these things. And I think that kind
- 15:28Speaker 1: of like idea of oh, she's sloppy, can get tied
- 15:32Speaker 1: into that. Um. But I haven't like formulated. I've had
- 15:36Speaker 1: a lot of like big thought breakthroughs during the holidays,
- 15:39Speaker 1: Samantha knows. Most of them were nerdy in nature. But
- 15:43Speaker 1: I was really thinking about some things and I was
- 15:45Speaker 1: like writing essays and I was like, wait, why are
- 15:47Speaker 1: you running essays? Are you and essays? You're like for
- 15:52Speaker 1: what purpose? And I was like, because oh, you are
- 15:58Speaker 1: dedicated writer. That's that's where that comes in. I'm a writer,
- 16:02Speaker 1: and I also like to be able. I like to
- 16:04Speaker 1: be ready to defend my opinion and a lot of
- 16:07Speaker 1: times if I'm surprised with a question, then I kind
- 16:10Speaker 1: of shut down because I'm like, well, I got to
- 16:11Speaker 1: think about it from all these angles. So I like
- 16:13Speaker 1: to like already formulate my thoughts. In case Bybone wants
- 16:20Speaker 1: to ask me about Anakin Skywalker at any point, I
- 16:22Speaker 1: am already, Oh I love it. Yeah, yeah. But I
- 16:28Speaker 1: think also during New Years, during this time, this has
- 16:32Speaker 1: when a lot of those like weight loss and exercise
- 16:35Speaker 1: things come in, which if that's what you want in
- 16:37Speaker 1: a healthy way, then I'm all for it. But it's
- 16:41Speaker 1: a lot. It's just a lot that's all I think.
- 16:44Speaker 1: I'm with you, like just I do a lot of
- 16:46Speaker 1: reflection of the year, and we did this as an
- 16:50Speaker 1: episode about like looking at at the past and the
- 16:52Speaker 1: big things and small things, you know, all the questions, um,
- 16:55Speaker 1: trying to be profound and trying to be thoughtful, um,
- 16:59Speaker 1: very purposeful for the next year, because you really think
- 17:02Speaker 1: you have control over that and that's not true, which
- 17:04Speaker 1: is hilarious to me because when we come back to
- 17:06Speaker 1: these were like, yeah, that did not happen. Um. So
- 17:10Speaker 1: it's always a fun risk, but it is. There are
- 17:13Speaker 1: things that you hope will happen. There's things that you
- 17:16Speaker 1: hope doesn't happen, but that does put you into the
- 17:19Speaker 1: state of like, Okay, I have no control about this.
- 17:23Speaker 1: How do I control this? Yeah? Yeah, And that's the thing,
- 17:27Speaker 1: Like this is a bigger topic that I won't get
- 17:30Speaker 1: into too much in this, but I've talked about it before,
- 17:32Speaker 1: Like when it comes to wait, a lot of it
- 17:36Speaker 1: feels like it's out of my control, even though I
- 17:38Speaker 1: know the things to do, UM, it just feels like
- 17:43Speaker 1: it's something I can't necessarily control, and that kind of
- 17:48Speaker 1: puts me in the state of like almost panic around it.
- 17:53Speaker 1: A lot, So I don't know. I would just as
- 17:56Speaker 1: we always say in these um you know, we love
- 17:59Speaker 1: you out there, and I would urge you to take
- 18:01Speaker 1: care of yourself and kind of examine like like I'm
- 18:04Speaker 1: trying to do what what do you really want and
- 18:07Speaker 1: what it's healthy and what is reasonable? And I don't know, because, like,
- 18:10Speaker 1: like I said, one of the biggest things for me
- 18:12Speaker 1: here was I kind of I was like, huh, I
- 18:17Speaker 1: sort of stopped worrying about that. I love it. That's
- 18:21Speaker 1: a great place, and I hope you can remain there. Yeah.
- 18:24Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard, too hard on it. Yeah, yeah,
- 18:27Speaker 1: for sure. I think it's gonna be like it's just
- 18:28Speaker 1: because I've been inside by myself or with you most
- 18:31Speaker 1: of the time. But I think was like, go out
- 18:33Speaker 1: into the real world a lot more. It's going to
- 18:35Speaker 1: be a lot harder, but it will do it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 18:40Speaker 1: But you know, cheers and happy New Year. Ye yes,
- 18:46Speaker 1: And to all of you listeners, you would love to
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