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RHOBH: Soap Opera Tears with Kate Casey · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
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Speaker 2: We'll get into the conversation right after these quick ass.
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Speaker 1: Kay, rain drop, it's a fan favorite. Kate Casey, I'm back, Kate.
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Speaker 1: We just got to get right into it.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming back to the podcast.
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Speaker 2: You are one of the most requested guests that I
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Speaker 2: have and I could not do this recap of the
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Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Billy Hills reunion and the whole season
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Speaker 2: as a whole with anyone else but you.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that makes me so happy. I could cry.
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Speaker 2: Well, don't cry like Kyle Richards did on the part
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Speaker 2: three of the reunion. So we just got to get
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Speaker 2: right into it.
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Speaker 1: Kate. Yes, I believe.
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Speaker 2: Everything Lisa Renna said and Erica said about Kathy in
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Speaker 2: the sense of what she said.
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Speaker 1: Listen, unpopular opinion.
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Speaker 2: I do believe that allegedly Kathy allegedly said the F
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Speaker 2: word begins with an F ends with the T. I
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Speaker 2: believe she said it. I believe she said it. And
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Speaker 2: this is the crazy part. I think Kathy fans are
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Speaker 2: just going to turn a blind eye and because they
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Speaker 2: hate Lisa Renna so much, And we'll get into her
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Speaker 2: credibility in a second. Because Lisa Renner was a flop
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Speaker 2: this reunion. I don't think a lot of people are
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Speaker 2: going to believe otherwise.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to Kathy Hilton.
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Speaker 3: Well, first I have to say, if you're hiring a
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Speaker 3: like a high powered attorney like Marty Singer, there's got
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Speaker 3: to be something in the water, right. Yes, no one's
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Speaker 3: going to pay that hourly rate and do that much
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Speaker 3: work without there being some reason for it. So I'll
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Speaker 3: say that first.
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Speaker 1: And just on my listeners.
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Speaker 2: No, Marty Singer is a high powered attorney. He's a litigator.
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Speaker 2: So when celebrities are going through a crisis or a situation,
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Speaker 2: they hire Marty Singer, who's very tough, and he usually
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Speaker 2: makes things go away allegedly.
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Speaker 3: But I also think many things can be true at
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Speaker 3: one time. And I think that the reason that people
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Speaker 3: are maybe a little bit more lenient on Kathy is
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Speaker 3: because there her story with Kyle represents so many other
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Speaker 3: people's personal stories. So that is that sometimes you're you're
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Speaker 3: clouded by your own life experiences when you watch some
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Speaker 3: of these shows. That is why I think this season
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Speaker 3: has been so good, is that the layer of the
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Speaker 3: sisters has made this show all the more relatable. That said,
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Speaker 3: I also think that Lisa probably exaggerated other things that
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Speaker 3: happened that night. Yes, so I think all many things
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Speaker 3: could be true at one time.
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Speaker 1: No, I could not agree more.
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Speaker 2: And listen, this is the problem that I have with
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Speaker 2: Lisa Rena. I think Lisaena, at one point in time
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Speaker 2: was fun to watch, very delicious in her sneaky way
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Speaker 2: of breaking up stories, you know, alleging that people were
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Speaker 2: doing cochin Dured's bathroom. You know, let's talk about the
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Speaker 2: husbands and through a drink at Kim Richards like. It
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Speaker 2: was all interesting and funny to me, right. I think
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Speaker 2: the reason why Lisa Renna had the worst season ever
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Speaker 2: on The Real Houseboss of Billy Hills is because she
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Speaker 2: was too busy performing like it was the Days of
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Speaker 2: Our Lives reboot on Peacock correct.
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Speaker 1: And this is my opinion.
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Speaker 2: I believe she over exaggerated her feelings about what she
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Speaker 2: witnessed with Kathy to use the words abuse her. I
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Speaker 2: didn't feel safe. I was feared for my life. She's like,
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Speaker 2: It's like was was Kathy Hilton playing the role of
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Speaker 2: Jason and Halloween?
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Speaker 1: Like did he do? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: It was so weird and although I believe that there's
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Speaker 2: some things that Lisa said that was true. I think
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Speaker 2: because she was so performative that even at somebody who
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Speaker 2: again believes that Lisa Renna said things that were true
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Speaker 2: about Kathy, the way she reacted to it, I was
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Speaker 2: even over it and wanted Lisa Renna to just shut up.
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Speaker 3: Agreed. I also think that people don't like to see
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Speaker 3: families ripped apart. So even if there are things that
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Speaker 3: Kathy did say that are true, it got to the
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Speaker 3: point of the season where everyone kind of felt like,
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Speaker 3: why would you work so hard to make these two
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Speaker 3: sisters who have already have a troubled relationship make that
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Speaker 3: rift even deeper, So now you've actually become the villain.
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Speaker 3: I'll also say that I think that the audience to
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Speaker 3: your point of like the days of did you do
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Speaker 3: coke in the bathroom? Those were great, But if you're
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Speaker 3: going to be that kind of person, you have to
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Speaker 3: expect for that to come back at you. You have
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Speaker 3: to rip off a layer of your life. You have
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Speaker 3: to expose yourself. People are going to have to go
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Speaker 3: after you. And I still feel like seasons and seasons later,
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Speaker 3: I really don't know anything about Lisa Rena.
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Speaker 2: Now, the only thing I know about Lisa Rena is
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Speaker 2: Harry makes great spaghetti sauce, that she rents her clothing.
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Speaker 2: Now that Erica Jane came on the show and all
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Speaker 2: the girls steps of their fashions, no shade is true,
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Speaker 2: and that she.
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Speaker 1: That's it. I'm at a loss for words.
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Speaker 2: And you're so genius, Kate, in the sense of if
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Speaker 2: you you're going to be the messy messenger, you have
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Speaker 2: to at least be messy and giving us the mess
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Speaker 2: in your.
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Speaker 1: Own fucking life. Correct, And she hasn't done that.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's the problem that people are having
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Speaker 2: with her because she loves to put everyone's business on
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Speaker 2: the table and not show any mess in her life.
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Speaker 2: Because my thing is this, I still need to know
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Speaker 2: what Kim Richards was alluding to when she said, let's
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Speaker 2: talk about the husbands, right, and for Lisa Renna to
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Speaker 2: have that reaction, there is something going on in that
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Speaker 2: household of the Hamlet dash Renna.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 3: Also the way that she went after Garcel about you know,
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Speaker 3: you don't bring up our children. It was an agreement.
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Speaker 3: Garcel just referenced something that happened on the television show
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Speaker 3: that they're filming in her book, and Garcel so generously
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Speaker 3: went out of her way to take it out of
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Speaker 3: an audio book form, take it out of the second print.
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Speaker 3: I mean that was pretty generous. Probably cost her extra money,
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Speaker 3: by the way, and Lisa is just not even She
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Speaker 3: didn't even say thank you for it. But the way
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Speaker 3: that she went after about you don't talk about our
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Speaker 3: children too. So you can't talk about her husband, you
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Speaker 3: can't talk about her children. What the hell can you
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Speaker 3: talk about?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, miss, let's talk about it. You better believe or
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Speaker 1: going to talk about it.
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Speaker 2: If you are going to be somebody messy, you have
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Speaker 2: to talk about your own life. And as someone who
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Speaker 2: loves Giselle Kobe Bryant from the Real House by the Potomac,
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Speaker 2: Gazelle also is suffering through that with the audience, right yeap.
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Speaker 2: The reason why the audience has this love hate relationship
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Speaker 2: with Giselle is because she's messy in everyone else's life,
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Speaker 2: but she has a closed door when it comes to
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Speaker 2: her own. And Lisa Renna, if you're listening, because I
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Speaker 2: know you are, in order for you to have sustainability
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Speaker 2: on this show, you.
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Speaker 1: Have to let us in more.
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Speaker 2: And when you tell Andy to put you on pause,
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Speaker 2: and I can't believe I'm saying this. I think Lisa
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Speaker 2: Rena should sit out this next season.
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Speaker 3: And before I pause, I agree the way that she
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Speaker 3: was tweeting, like comparing herself to Lebron James. I mean
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Speaker 3: I think that the audience also rejects. I mean, listen,
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Speaker 3: at some cellular level, we know that all of them
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Speaker 3: have aspects of narcissism. I mean, that's the only way
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Speaker 3: they can be on a show.
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Speaker 1: Like that, right, one hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: And so when it's so overt, I think it puts
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Speaker 3: such a bad taste in the audience because they almost
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Speaker 3: feel like we're complicit in making this person more of
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Speaker 3: a monster. So when she's waving the carrot in front
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Speaker 3: of us, like, I, you know, I I can walk
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Speaker 3: if I want, I almost suspect. It seemed to me
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Speaker 3: like and tell me if I'm wrong. Maybe there was
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Speaker 3: a point where she tried to maybe sell a spin
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Speaker 3: off show, not a spin off show, but a show
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Speaker 3: about herself to another network, and that maybe those plans
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Speaker 3: fell through, and that's when she kind of came in
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Speaker 3: because it seemed like she was ready to walk away
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Speaker 3: from the Housewives show. At one minute, and then she
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Speaker 3: kind of like walked her way back. I felt like
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Speaker 3: there's something else going on off screen where she was like,
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Speaker 3: you guys need me more than I need you. And
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Speaker 3: then it was like a week later she was excited
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Speaker 3: to be part of Real Housewives. So there has to
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Speaker 3: be other stuff going on off camera where they must
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Speaker 3: have said to her, either you have to expose more
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Speaker 3: about yourself personally, or you have to dial back your
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Speaker 3: behavior because something has to change.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, I think she got to cocky. I think because
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Speaker 2: she listened. One thing about your podcast, Kate that I
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Speaker 2: love so much is the fact that you also speak
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Speaker 2: to reality producers. And I remember in twenty twenty you
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Speaker 2: did an interview with Alex Baskin, who is a part
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Speaker 2: of Evolution in the production company that produces both OC
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Speaker 2: and Beverly Hills. And Alex, who's a great person, says
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Speaker 2: something so fascinating.
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Speaker 1: He said that the OC.
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Speaker 2: Women they put everything on the table in terms of
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Speaker 2: the lives, whereas the Beverly Hills women they don't expose
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Speaker 2: so much. I bring that up to say this. Lisa
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Speaker 2: Venna felt that I'm the only bitch on this show
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Speaker 2: who is willing to bring stuff up that these ladies
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Speaker 2: refuse to talk about. And I think because she knew
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Speaker 2: she had that going for herself, she felt that she
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Speaker 2: was a needed asset to Beverly Hills because no one
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Speaker 2: else besides Brandy Glanville was going to do that on
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Speaker 2: that particular franchise. And you're right, she thought that she
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Speaker 2: could Chris Jenna herself and have this spin off with
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Speaker 2: her daughters that you know, she felt was going to
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Speaker 2: be the next phase of her career. And then she
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Speaker 2: realized that the real house, the Beverly Hills, is all
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Speaker 2: I have. And as much as I love a woman
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Speaker 2: on the Housewives show who likes to, you know, put
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Speaker 2: stuff out there and address things, Denise Richards throwing her
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Speaker 2: under the bus, she Lisa Rena is no longer enjoyable
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Speaker 2: to watch, and I think having a season off and
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Speaker 2: coming back the following season may do her some justice.
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Speaker 3: Also, there's too much stuff going on off camera with
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Speaker 3: Instagram accounts and this Patrick Summers guy. It got too
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Speaker 3: dirty and as I think the audience member wants to
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Speaker 3: feel like as silly as it may seem like in
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Speaker 3: their mind, like this is still a docuseries in some
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Speaker 3: form that they just happen to live their lives on camera.
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Speaker 3: But when you find out that they're dming with Instagram
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Speaker 3: accounts and being very strategic, it takes away the joy
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Speaker 3: of the experience of watching someone else's life.
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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And one thing that we must address is the fact
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Speaker 2: that on Teddy Mellencamp's podcast with Tamra Judge, she revealed
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Speaker 2: Kate and I think you may have heard this too,
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Speaker 2: that the fourth Fox five group chat has not been
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Speaker 2: active since the reunion, and she is saying.
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Speaker 1: That Kyle.
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Speaker 2: And Lisa and Erica their pretty much are not on
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Speaker 2: speaking terms right now.
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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I mean, I was surprised they even
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Speaker 3: were close at any point, because it take away the
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Speaker 3: television show. How much do they actually have in common,
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Speaker 3: you know? And I also think that it's pretty obvious
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Speaker 3: to the audience that Lisa and Erica worked very hard
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Speaker 3: to take the Shiny Ball away from Erica. Her legal
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Speaker 3: problems are the shiny ball, right and after a season
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Speaker 3: of that and the fact that Lisa does not really
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Speaker 3: want to open up about personal things, they jumped on
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Speaker 3: the opportunity to use this storyline with Kathy and Kyle
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Speaker 3: and what happened with Kathy and Aspen as an opportunity
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Speaker 3: to get the stories that they don't want to tell
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Speaker 3: and talk about out of the way.
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Speaker 2: Could not agree more, could not agree more. And I
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Speaker 2: think Kyle realized in that moment that you women are
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Speaker 2: responsible for where I'm at in my relationship with.
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Speaker 1: Kathy, because Kyle, this is how I feel.
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Speaker 2: I think Kyle was like, look, I know my sister
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Speaker 2: Kathy can be a bitch.
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Speaker 1: Totally do I believe.
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Speaker 2: Kathy is this martyr who's just, you know, very arrogant
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Speaker 2: and says things one hundred percent. But in order for
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Speaker 2: me to have a relationship with my sister, I have
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Speaker 2: to pretend that she's a good sister, a good person
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Speaker 2: to keep the peace, because if I don't, Kathy Hilton
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Speaker 2: allegedly is going to make my life a living hell.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know a lot of people called this
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Speaker 2: Kate when Andy asked, Kathy, are you going to go
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Speaker 2: to Kyle's daughter's wedding? And Kathy pretty much was like,
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Speaker 2: I maybe or I forgot what she said exactly.
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Speaker 3: She paused long enough that you know that she's either
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Speaker 3: not planning to go or she wanted to ensure that
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Speaker 3: Kyle knows I'm in a power position and I can
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Speaker 3: take your nieces away from you. That is the most
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Speaker 3: painful thing anybody can do to Kyle is for someone
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Speaker 3: in that family to isolate her. I always find the
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Speaker 3: layer of a family member extra interesting because you see
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Speaker 3: Kyle as this most powerful person on that show force multiplier.
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Speaker 3: Right then when you add in her sisters, she reverts
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Speaker 3: to this child. I always feel like those three sisters
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Speaker 3: are the following. The dictator is Kathy, the disaster is Kim,
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Speaker 3: and the doormat is Kyle. The dictator, the disaster and
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Speaker 3: the doormat. And when those two sisters come back on
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Speaker 3: screen with Kyle, she reverts back to the doormat and
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Speaker 3: everything that she's been on that show without them completely
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Speaker 3: flips and you see a totally different side of Kyle,
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Speaker 3: And I think the audience intuitively, who you know, you
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Speaker 3: have nine siblings. You know what it's like when a
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Speaker 3: sibling ICs you out, treats you like a smaller version
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Speaker 3: of the adult self that you are.
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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Kate, Ksey, you should be a private
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Speaker 2: detective and investigator, because baby, you hit the nail on
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Speaker 2: the Oh my god, Kate just told us brain drops
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Speaker 2: that when Kyle is on this show without her sisters,
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Speaker 2: she's arguably the leader, the powerhouse.
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Speaker 1: She controls the show. It's her show.
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Speaker 2: She has this sense of confidence she does because the
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Speaker 2: ladies bow down to her, they respect her. But when
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Speaker 2: Kathy and or Chim is with her, she revers back
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Speaker 2: to being the doormat.
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Speaker 1: And it's funny because you're right.
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Speaker 2: I have nine siblings, and one thing about having siblings
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Speaker 2: is everyone plays a role. When you are isolated from
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Speaker 2: your family, especially as part of your siblings, it's a
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Speaker 2: motherfucker and it does a toll on your relationships with
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Speaker 2: your other family members because people don't know who's side
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Speaker 2: to choose. And I am getting chills right now because
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Speaker 2: when I saw Kyle cry for two fucking hours on
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Speaker 2: stage walking to her dressing room.
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Speaker 1: Inside her dressing room.
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Speaker 2: Which by the way, I love the fact that her
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Speaker 2: hairstyles said, look, bitch, keep crying, I'm still gonna do
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Speaker 2: your hair and fix it.
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Speaker 1: Loved it.
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Speaker 2: I now realize Kya was crying because my belief what
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Speaker 2: you just said too, Kate, she knows that this is
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Speaker 2: not the end of Kathy Hilton's wrap up.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no no. She has to
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Speaker 3: pay for this for the rest of the year. And
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Speaker 3: the worst part about it is so do her kids.
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Speaker 3: And I'm I'm looking at all those pictures of all
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Speaker 3: the cousins and I just have this hope that those
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Speaker 3: kids are going to rise up and make these sisters
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Speaker 3: come together. I don't know how possible it is, but
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Speaker 3: the way that those sisters have control over their children,
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Speaker 3: specifically Kathy too, the fact that you know, Paris is
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Speaker 3: like forty one years old now Nikki's like thirty seven,
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Speaker 3: and that she could possibly have enough control over them
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Speaker 3: to say, you cannot go to your cousin's wedding. Now Farah,
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Speaker 3: who's Kyle's daughter, was in Nikki's wedding, So imagine that
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Speaker 3: your aunt says to your cousin, no, I'm mad at
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Speaker 3: your aunt, so you can't go to the wedding. That's
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Speaker 3: a crazy amount of control. And I always feel like
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Speaker 3: with all things, if you pay like peel the layers back,
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Speaker 3: you really have to go back to their mom. How
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Speaker 3: much control did their mom? What was the precedent that
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Speaker 3: she said in their family of origin that these two
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Speaker 3: sisters one is sixty three years old, and they still
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Speaker 3: revert back to the people that they were living in
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Speaker 3: their family home.
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Speaker 1: It's wild, No, it's it's not fascinating.
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Speaker 3: That's why the show is great because it's different than
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Speaker 3: other franchises where you just see, like on Salt Lake
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Speaker 3: they go on a ski trip and it's like, you're
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Speaker 3: not my friend anymore. This is so much more layered
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Speaker 3: and deep and painful, and I think all audiences can
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Speaker 3: relate to some aspect of that.
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And it's the reason why the early days of Jersey
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Speaker 2: Housewives was so good because you had you had Dina
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Speaker 2: and Caroline and listen, I produced the first two seasons
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Speaker 2: and you're right to see Dina and Caroline Manzell deal
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Speaker 2: with their shit, then to see Teresa Melissa, like, there
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Speaker 2: is something about the dynamics of family because at the
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Speaker 2: end of the day, these women as housewives, they're all
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Speaker 2: disposable to each other, yes, and they're only friends with
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Speaker 2: each other for alliance. Look at what's happening this upcoming
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Speaker 2: season of OC. All of a sudden, Shanna is friends
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Speaker 2: with Tamar again. And I heard that Emily and Gina
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Speaker 2: are like kissing Tamer's ass. It's all about staying on
19:45
Speaker 2: the ship of the person who sports multiplier. But when
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Speaker 2: it's family, it goes beyond the television show and it
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Speaker 2: goes deeper than the TV show. And now that we
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Speaker 2: know what's going to happen with Kyle feeling like, oh shit,
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Speaker 2: my daughter is going to suffer through maybe her her
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Speaker 2: cousins not attending the wedding, we now know that Kathy
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Speaker 2: Hilton said to reporters at TMZ that if Lisa, Renna
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Speaker 2: and Erica Jane are back next season, she is not
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Speaker 2: returning to the show.
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Speaker 3: Okay, the fascinating thing about this Housewives world is that
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Speaker 3: everyone is expendable, everybody. So it's like somebody who gets
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Speaker 3: hired at your place, your workplace, and they're like, not
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Speaker 3: only am I going to be here for the rest
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Speaker 3: of my life, I'm going to like run the company,
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Speaker 3: and you're like, hr is already talking about replacing you.
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Speaker 3: It's like delusion beyond delusion. So I just think it's
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Speaker 3: fascinating when someone's like, you have to get rid of
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Speaker 3: them and she's only a friend of which is astounding
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Speaker 3: that she would think that she has that much power.
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Speaker 3: That said Kyle needs to leave the show's and here's why. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: she needs to leave the show. And here's why. I've
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Speaker 3: already watched Buying Beverly Hills, which is the show that
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Speaker 3: Mauricio has done on Netflix. I've already watched the season.
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Speaker 3: This is what I can tell you. Kyle needs to
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Speaker 3: leave Beverly Hills and just go beyond that show because
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Speaker 3: it's a better representation of who she is and who
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Speaker 3: she wants to be, which is her confident, adult self.
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Speaker 3: That show beautifully shows that she and Mauricio are really
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Speaker 3: good parents. His two daughters work for him at the agency.
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Speaker 3: The show's great because it reflects the problems that happen
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Speaker 3: in like a family business, how the parent can have
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Speaker 3: a blind spot for one of the siblings who's not
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Speaker 3: doing the best job at their job. I think you
21:47
Speaker 3: get a real window into why Kyle has worked so
21:50
Speaker 3: hard to create the family that she does have, because
21:54
Speaker 3: the sisters and her mother was so unstable. I think
21:58
Speaker 3: they have a really great family life. I think what
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Speaker 3: she's accomplished on Housewives is enough. I don't think she
22:03
Speaker 3: can get anything out of it. I don't think having
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Speaker 3: her sister on the show makes her feel secure in
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Speaker 3: the show. Or in her life or in the world.
22:12
Speaker 3: She should leave do the Netflix show say goodbye to housewives?
22:16
Speaker 3: She I think she's done what she's had to do.
22:19
Speaker 3: Most of these housewives don't know when to walk away. True,
22:22
Speaker 3: you got to walk away like a Seinfeld. You gotta
22:24
Speaker 3: walk away like Derek Jeter. You gotta walk away when
22:27
Speaker 3: you're on top. And I think that this is the
22:30
Speaker 3: perfect time for her to leave and to do something different.
22:35
Speaker 2: Who I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more.
22:38
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after these quick ass This is
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Speaker 2: reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get
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Speaker 2: back into the show. Okay, listen, I think you just
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Speaker 2: broke my heart because everyone knows I'm a huge cow
22:58
Speaker 2: Riches fan. But I got to ask you to more questions.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, is Kyle making appearances on this Netflix show?
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Speaker 3: She and the first season, she's barely on it, and
23:07
Speaker 3: I think it would add so much value to that
23:09
Speaker 3: show if she clearly she can't be on the show
23:12
Speaker 3: because she was filming another show on another network. But
23:16
Speaker 3: by leaving, I think she could be on that second
23:19
Speaker 3: season of Buying Beverly Hills more and it would add
23:21
Speaker 3: even more to an already good show.
23:24
Speaker 2: My second question, can the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
23:28
Speaker 2: survive without Kyle Richards.
23:32
Speaker 3: I think every show can survive without someone Come on, now,
23:37
Speaker 3: you don't. There's not one person. And people thought Atlanta
23:40
Speaker 3: couldn't survive without Nini.
23:43
Speaker 1: True.
23:43
Speaker 3: People think that New Jersey can't survive without Teresa. Let
23:47
Speaker 3: me tell you my sister lives in New Jersey. There
23:48
Speaker 3: are a lot of crazy ass women that would be
23:51
Speaker 3: great for that show. I mean, Orange County, you could
23:54
Speaker 3: wipe them all out, and I.
23:55
Speaker 1: Can throw seven great.
23:57
Speaker 3: Women in the show. It's the show is relying on
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Speaker 3: one person. The show should be called by the name
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Speaker 3: of that person. She could leave and there could be
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Speaker 3: extraordinary storytelling in Beverly Hills.
24:09
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god.
24:11
Speaker 3: Now I interviewed Jay Edelson, who's the lawyer that sued Erica,
24:17
Speaker 3: Jane right, Erica and Tom, and I just interviewed him
24:21
Speaker 3: and it's I mean, there's just so much going on
24:24
Speaker 3: in that girority lawsuit. And I think that they were
24:28
Speaker 3: probably successful Lisa and Erica the season in getting people
24:34
Speaker 3: to pay less attention into what Tom did and questioning
24:40
Speaker 3: how complicit she was. I think they were successful, unfortunately,
24:44
Speaker 3: and I think people need to go back and they
24:46
Speaker 3: need to really think about what Tom Girardi did at
24:49
Speaker 3: his law firm, what he's done to victims of the
24:52
Speaker 3: the clients that he had, what he did to dismantle
24:56
Speaker 3: the legal system in Los Angeles. I mean, it's quite astonishing,
25:01
Speaker 3: and unfortunately, I think that people paid less attention.
25:05
Speaker 2: So wait, so you did an exclusive interview on your
25:08
Speaker 2: podcast Reality Your Life with KKC.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I've had that lawyer on a couple times and
25:13
Speaker 3: I had him come back to tell me, like an
25:15
Speaker 3: update on the Gerardi case. Here are some things that
25:17
Speaker 3: I thought we were interesting. He subpoenaed Bravo for footage
25:22
Speaker 3: so that they and they're calling through every single episode,
25:25
Speaker 3: and he does say, we are looking through every single
25:28
Speaker 3: episode in every frame, and we have plenty of ammunition
25:31
Speaker 3: in our suit against them, in which they believe they
25:34
Speaker 3: have a very strong case. So they subpoened footage and
25:37
Speaker 3: I asked him, can you tell me anything about what
25:40
Speaker 3: you saw on that footage? And he said a lot
25:42
Speaker 3: of it I can't because it's it's protected right. But
25:46
Speaker 3: he said, what I can tell you is this that
25:49
Speaker 3: when the cameras are off, meaning like she knows they're
25:53
Speaker 3: not filming, her demeanor completely changes, which I thought was interesting.
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Speaker 3: Another thing he said was that she's always saying like that,
26:05
Speaker 3: you know, it was the end of their marriage, and
26:07
Speaker 3: that she was intimating like she never speaks to him.
26:10
Speaker 3: I know that. In the reunion, she said, well, he
26:13
Speaker 3: calls me, but he's so out of it and it's
26:15
Speaker 3: like blah blah blah, and it's do I speak to
26:17
Speaker 3: him out of humanity? Is what she said. But what
26:20
Speaker 3: Jay tells me is that they have records of her
26:25
Speaker 3: being at meetings at the firm, and they have reason
26:30
Speaker 3: to believe and to prove that they have been in
26:34
Speaker 3: communication and he may have even been giving her legal advice.
26:39
Speaker 2: Now, look, I will say this as a viewer of
26:45
Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Billy Hills. We talked about how
26:49
Speaker 2: last season when they were on the cast trip, and
26:53
Speaker 2: I believe they were at Kyle's vacation home. And one
26:58
Speaker 2: of the things that was so fascinating was the fact
27:01
Speaker 2: that Erica had a strong reaction when guard Silver Reville
27:06
Speaker 2: that her and Tom still talk, yes, And there was
27:09
Speaker 2: something about that reaction that made me believe, hmm, it
27:14
Speaker 2: appears that you did not want that to come out.
27:17
Speaker 2: You were going off script at this time and it
27:21
Speaker 2: could not affect your case. So the fact that all
27:25
Speaker 2: of this is going down is going to be interesting.
27:28
Speaker 2: And before I let you go, we got to talk
27:32
Speaker 2: about the future of the Real Housewives of belly Hills
27:35
Speaker 2: because looking at what next season can be, are we
27:42
Speaker 2: going to hear more about the Giralde case based on
27:47
Speaker 2: your conversation with the attorney? And do you think that
27:52
Speaker 2: Denise and Teddy Mellacamp or Brandy Glanville should come back
27:59
Speaker 2: to the show so that we can talk about something
28:02
Speaker 2: new outside.
28:03
Speaker 1: Of this case.
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Speaker 3: I would say that their best bet is definitely to
28:08
Speaker 3: follow the lead of other shows and to bring somebody
28:11
Speaker 3: in from the past. I think Denise Richards and Brandy
28:14
Speaker 3: would absolutely be great. I don't know about Camille. I
28:18
Speaker 3: don't know if she fits in as well. She's kind
28:20
Speaker 3: of like to Stale. I don't think that if well.
28:25
Speaker 3: In my opinion, Kyle shouldn't come back. And I think
28:28
Speaker 3: the only way Teddy works is if Kyle is on screen. Agreed,
28:31
Speaker 3: So I would say Brandy and Denise for the win,
28:36
Speaker 3: and I think it could be just as much magic.
28:39
Speaker 1: So name your cas for next season of Beverly Hills.
28:43
Speaker 1: Name yours and I'll name mine.
28:45
Speaker 3: Although I do think what Lisa does need a break,
28:48
Speaker 3: or maybe what they just do is just hold off
28:50
Speaker 3: on filming for a couple months, you know, just to
28:53
Speaker 3: like air it out. I would say, bring Kathy in
28:58
Speaker 3: his full time, but the condition that you have Kim
29:02
Speaker 3: come as a friend, and you have to I want
29:05
Speaker 3: to see more of Kim versus Lisa after Lisa takes
29:10
Speaker 3: a little bit of a break, right, I'd like to
29:12
Speaker 3: see Denise and Erica, and I would like to see
29:15
Speaker 3: Brandy because I feel like Brandy is the only person
29:18
Speaker 3: that will actually stand up to Erica. And then Sutton
29:21
Speaker 3: and Garcel actually make you feel like these are two
29:24
Speaker 3: good friends and they I think they bring some humanity
29:27
Speaker 3: to the show.
29:28
Speaker 1: I agree. So would you get rid of Chrystal? Oh?
29:30
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, I would. Well, I mean, I really like her,
29:34
Speaker 3: and I think she's fun to watch, and I like
29:36
Speaker 3: the personal story. And I think that the fact that
29:39
Speaker 3: she's brought attention to eating disorders, especially on as part
29:44
Speaker 3: of a show where undoubtedly so many of these women
29:47
Speaker 3: have dysmorphia or eating disorders, I think that's a really
29:50
Speaker 3: important conversation to have. I don't know, why can't you
29:54
Speaker 3: have a show where you have like four leads and
29:56
Speaker 3: then a bunch of friends.
29:59
Speaker 1: It might be able to work Now and listen to
30:02
Speaker 1: answer my own question.
30:04
Speaker 2: I've actually agree with your your dreamcast for next season.
30:08
Speaker 1: So Alex Baskin.
30:11
Speaker 2: Evolution, Doug, listen to Kate Casey and Carlos King. We
30:16
Speaker 2: believe your cast for next season should be So we
30:19
Speaker 2: want Kyle to go on the Netflix show so she can,
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Speaker 2: you know, be happy and not deal with the other shit.
30:25
Speaker 2: We want Brandy, Denise, Lisa, Erica, Garcel Sutton, Kim Richards
30:33
Speaker 2: as a friend to the show, and Big Kathy as
30:36
Speaker 2: full time. Yes, all right, we just did you all
30:41
Speaker 2: a favor. So Kate, I can talk to you all
30:44
Speaker 2: day long.
30:46
Speaker 3: But you are going to talk to me tomorrow, so
30:48
Speaker 3: that's fine.
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Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am, I am now. I
30:51
Speaker 1: can't wait.
30:52
Speaker 2: So Kate, let the rain drops know where they can
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Speaker 3: Thank you you Reality Life with Kate Casey everywhere where
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31:13
Speaker 3: with the attorney j Edilson who talks about the Girardi case.
31:16
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31:24
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31:27
Speaker 3: who had an affair with Jerry Falwell's wife and how
31:31
Speaker 3: the whole family crumbled.
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