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The Least Dramatic Tell All with Zachary Reality · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast Today. I
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Speaker 2: am joined by Zachary Reality. He's gonna be filling in
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Speaker 2: for Ben and it's a great episode. Zach for you
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Speaker 2: to be joining us, because you had inside tea about
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Speaker 2: women Tell All. You came on our show last week
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Speaker 2: to give us some of the drama you were experiencing
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Speaker 2: with Carolina about women Tell All, so you probably have
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Speaker 2: more insight than anyone into this, besides the girls that,
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Speaker 2: of course were there.
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Speaker 3: I will say that I had a thank you for
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Speaker 3: having me back. I had a few friends over last night.
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Speaker 3: When she walked off the stage. We all screamed because
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Speaker 3: I did not I wanted her to walk off the
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Speaker 3: stage because you know, she told me she was going
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Speaker 3: to So if they edited that out, I would have
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Speaker 3: looked like a liar.
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Speaker 4: So I was glad that they at least showed it.
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Speaker 3: But I also was glad and interested that they didn't
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Speaker 3: show the backstage of her. You know, she said the
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Speaker 3: cameras followed her. I guess they decided not to air that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So if you guys didn't turn into our show
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Speaker 2: last week, tune into our show. Last week, basically, Zach
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Speaker 2: and Carolina had a little digital feud going on because
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Speaker 2: he aired that somebody went backstage at cameras followed and
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Speaker 2: that it was going to be a dramatic woman till
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Speaker 2: all moment. Well, it actually turned out to be on TV,
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Speaker 2: not very dramatic. She was shown walking off. They don't
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Speaker 2: show what happened actually backstage, and Jesse just said she
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Speaker 2: needed a moment. It was really no big deal.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically that's what happened, and we're all good. Now
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Speaker 3: we started texting again and water under the bridge, and
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Speaker 3: like I said, you know, I'm not her biggest worry.
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Speaker 3: You know, there was some other girls, so she should
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Speaker 3: be more worried about. So I wasn't her only social
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Speaker 3: media drama last week.
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming, though, that you're going to be too scared
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Speaker 2: to give any of her gossip out to the world.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just no point. I'm not going to try
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Speaker 3: for her again or go back and forth. Luckily, you know,
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Speaker 3: since outing that I've talked to her other girls, I've
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Speaker 3: reached forward, and I've gotten some new gossip that I
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Speaker 3: can share anonymously.
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Speaker 4: So oh yeah, give it us.
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Speaker 3: I was just telling your well, I was just telling
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Speaker 3: your producer backstage that they are looking for the next
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Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor, because you know this, They're looking for a
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Speaker 3: fresh guy.
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Speaker 2: A fresh guy interesting, Okay, Yeah, I know somebody who's
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Speaker 2: getting relatively further in the casting as one of the women.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised that it's happening, but I'm interested
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Speaker 2: to know why they're choosing a fresh guy. I think
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Speaker 2: it's because Mark is taken and so is oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: what was his.
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Speaker 4: Name, Jonathan? But Jonathan broke up with his girlfriend.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan broke up with his girlfriend, why wouldn't they choose him.
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Speaker 3: I think they're really looking for a fresh new face,
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Speaker 3: like somebody from anywhere. So if anyone here is listening
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Speaker 3: and you know, wants to nominate their dad or their grandpa,
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Speaker 3: go to Golden Bachelor casting dot com.
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Speaker 4: They are really looking for their main guy.
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Speaker 3: There's like two weeks left and opposedly will film in July,
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Speaker 3: and they already have like thirty thousand women ready to go,
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Speaker 3: So they really are just looking for the right guy.
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Speaker 4: So I don't know if you know anyone, Ashley.
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't because I would be setting them up.
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Speaker 2: But I do have a great woman for the cast. Now,
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Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise does seem to be a go. Ben
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Speaker 2: and I were speculating yesterday that it seemed to be
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Speaker 2: not as sure of a thing as we thought, but
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Speaker 2: maybe we just heard from we heard that there was
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Speaker 2: more of a standstill than to be expected for a
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Speaker 2: show that they've like put little teasers out for already,
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Speaker 2: and in the Women Tell All, Jesse really makes it
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Speaker 2: seem like in two weeks we're gonna have some we're
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Speaker 2: gonna have updates about Paradise. I think that's gonna be
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Speaker 2: the change of location, and I think that is going
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Speaker 2: to be the fact that they're adding Goldens to the show.
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Speaker 2: Just my guess, what have you heard about that?
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Speaker 3: I also think they could announce some cast. I mean,
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Speaker 3: they've already announced Jonathan Hakkem. I don't know if they'll
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Speaker 3: announce everybody. I don't know if they need to, but
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Speaker 3: I think they'll announce potentially an air date or at
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Speaker 3: least a timeframe, which I think could be September right
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Speaker 3: or maybe earlier.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll be back to being a summer show.
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Speaker 2: I believe that they are filming in May this year,
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Speaker 2: and that probably I heard May as well. Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: so I think they'll be done editing by August. I
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Speaker 2: think they know it does better as a summer show
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Speaker 2: and they can keep at least a little bit of
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Speaker 2: semblance of normalcy for their year round schedule. Okay, So
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Speaker 2: any any speculation about the Goldens being in Paradise.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I heard too, that like they could
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Speaker 3: potentially be there and have their own type of yeah
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Speaker 3: side show. I think that's I think it's dumb. I
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Speaker 3: don't want two shows on one show. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: don't think that works. So I think they need to
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Speaker 3: either commit to a Golden Paradise separate show and then
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Speaker 3: maybe even to like four episodes if they want, like
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Speaker 3: they did on Winter Games. They don't need to commit
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Speaker 3: to a whole season. But I don't think they should
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Speaker 3: mix them.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's get back to the main show
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Speaker 2: for a second. Carolina is start. She starts out the
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Speaker 2: show by showing off a jacket that has quotes on
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Speaker 2: it from the Carolina Show.
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Speaker 5: Show.
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Speaker 2: Jesse says, it's a bold choice. What do you think? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: this is bold. She's telling everyone basically that she had
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Speaker 2: more airtime than anyone else, which is accurate by a lot, right.
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Speaker 3: But it's not necessarily something you want to brag about.
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Speaker 3: It seems a little petty and low, but I mean,
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Speaker 3: I do think she kind of held her own during
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Speaker 3: the into all, a lot of the girls were coming
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Speaker 3: at her, and she kind of helps her own with
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Speaker 3: some receipts and some facts, and I didn't think she
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Speaker 3: was as ganged up on as maybe it seemed.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot was cut on the editing room floor.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she obviously was upset. It was a lot of
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Speaker 2: hat rehashing of the exact same stuff we didn't get anywhere. Really,
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Speaker 2: you either don't think Caroline is that bad or you're
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Speaker 2: like one of the girls and you think that she's annoying.
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Speaker 2: As heck, I can understand living with her would be annoying.
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Speaker 2: I still am on her team, though. When we talk
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Speaker 2: about the whole Rose situation, that is a weird thing
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Speaker 2: to say to someone, and it's a weird thing to
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Speaker 2: not address. So of course she goes and addresses it,
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Speaker 2: and that was the beginning of the real the Carolina Show.
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Speaker 2: I still think it was valid, and I still think
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Speaker 2: that was valid, and we get the answer. We see
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Speaker 2: the clip in This Woman Until All. It's one of
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Speaker 2: the most pivotal moments in the show. We see that
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Speaker 2: Grant did say to Rose something along the lines of
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Speaker 2: during this dancing date today, I was thinking of you.
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Speaker 2: He'd never mentioned when dancing with Carolina, I was thinking
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Speaker 2: of you whole huge.
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Speaker 4: Difference, huge difference.
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Speaker 3: I think it kind of clears things up, it understand
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Speaker 3: I understand why Carolina was a little triggered by what
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Speaker 3: she heard, and Rose kind of admits to maybe like
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Speaker 3: getting it wrong a little bit. So I'm glad that
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Speaker 3: they were able to clarify what was actually said. But
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Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like we got resolution between Carolina and Rose.
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Speaker 3: Like it doesn't seem like they made up or are
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Speaker 3: going to be friends. So maybe we'll get more of
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Speaker 3: that on their beef in Paradise if they both end
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Speaker 3: up being there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think it was a bold choice of
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Speaker 2: Rose to make make comment about any of that to Carolina.
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Speaker 2: Super weird. But you know, we understand that Carolina definitely
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Speaker 2: has her flaws. I don't deny that she was. She
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Speaker 2: was a big source of drama in the house, even
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Speaker 2: with things we probably didn't see now, Dina says another,
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Speaker 2: she says something bold. She says, if it weren't for me,
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Speaker 2: like I got you a whole other week here. And
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Speaker 2: I don't think she's wrong. She was the one that
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Speaker 2: stuck up for her that week in Madrid.
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Speaker 3: But don't you think that's a wild things to say,
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Speaker 3: that Dina has that much control over like a Rose.
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Speaker 2: If it weren't for Dina standing up for do you
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Speaker 2: think that she would have? Yeah, I see what you're saying.
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Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. That is something that I
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Speaker 2: probably wouldn't choose to say, But in a moment of
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Speaker 2: drama on a TV show with lights in my face
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Speaker 2: and cameras, it could come out of my mouth. I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be totally surprised. But you're right. In real life,
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Speaker 2: I would never say that to somebody, but on a
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Speaker 2: reality show, like, I'm not surprised that it came out
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Speaker 2: of her mouth.
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Speaker 3: It seems like a little like crazy that Dina would
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Speaker 3: have that much power. But maybe Dina like sticking up
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Speaker 3: for Carolina and like making up with her because they
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Speaker 3: made up that Rose ceremony, they like hugged upstairs, Like
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Speaker 3: maybe that like told the producers like, hey, like we
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Speaker 3: can resolve things with her, Let's keep her longer, because
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Speaker 3: if she was so shunned from the house, then the
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Speaker 3: storyline would have played out and maybe the producers would
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Speaker 3: have been like, all right, you're not aunt's choice, let's
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Speaker 3: just you can go.
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Speaker 4: So maybe Dina met.
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Speaker 2: No that hug happened right before Carolina was eliminated. She
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Speaker 2: didn't get through that week. It was the week before
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Speaker 2: when ca when Dina was like, you guys, like she's
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Speaker 2: a very sweet soul. She's a sweet soul and like
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about her through all of this. That's the
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Speaker 2: week she said she got her through.
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Speaker 3: Like, well maybe she she definitely supported her and had
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Speaker 3: her back, you know. So I think Dina did come
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Speaker 3: in with some receipts that like she was her friend
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Speaker 3: and she felt kind of like cross the second, like
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Speaker 3: something happens between them.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Another thing that Dina did was she posted a TikTok
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Speaker 2: that said, like, when you defend the one person, nobody
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Speaker 2: else would just to get played, just to get played.
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Speaker 2: The next week, so Dina was teasing the up coming
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Speaker 2: episode where she and Carolina actually had at it. And
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Speaker 2: this is one of the first times that we see
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Speaker 2: Bachelor The Bachelor using Instagram content, TikTok, social media content
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Speaker 2: to create drama on the show, to perpetuate a storyline.
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Speaker 2: I like it. Let's continue doing this. But again, that
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Speaker 2: was a bold choice of Dina. I could see why
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Speaker 2: Carolina would have been upset by that. But at the
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Speaker 2: same time, she isn't saying much. She's not really throwing Shane.
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Speaker 2: It is exactly what happened.
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Speaker 3: Well, wasn't that the same thing that happened to me
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Speaker 3: last week with my Twitter I wasn't trying to throw Shane.
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Speaker 3: I was trying to like seize the show. The same
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Speaker 3: thing happened with Dina's you know.
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Speaker 2: Yes, And then what happens as you allude to Carolina
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Speaker 2: decides to just screenshot their text messages and put them
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Speaker 2: out there. Like, Carolina, you can't do this. No one's what.
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Speaker 2: You can't do this. Every time somebody annoys you a
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Speaker 2: little bit with a social media comment, you're gonna just
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Speaker 2: you know, to grow our private text messages.
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Speaker 4: I mean, at least she's consistent.
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Speaker 3: So now people know, do not play with Carolina, don't
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Speaker 3: trigger her, don't pope, don't you know, press her. But
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Speaker 3: she don't text her. She you got to call her
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Speaker 3: or FaceTime hers. I sent her voice notes. Actually, you
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Speaker 3: cannot be texting her because if you do something wrong,
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Speaker 3: she will post your text.
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Speaker 4: She's done it to multiple people.
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Speaker 2: That's hilarious. This episode did make me like Diana even more.
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Speaker 2: I do feel like she should have been the Bachelorette
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Speaker 2: if we were going to pull one from this season.
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Speaker 2: She is so unapologetically and genuinely type A. It's hilarious
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Speaker 2: between her laundry and there was some other moment where
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Speaker 2: I was like, this girl is just no shame in
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Speaker 2: her type A game. You you what it was? Your
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Speaker 2: take on her glasses. I thought she looks stunning in them.
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Speaker 3: Yes, going to say like Bold's choice for her glasses,
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Speaker 3: because I feel like she was getting a lot of
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Speaker 3: flak online. People were just saying that she looks different now.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know if she dyed her hair, if
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Speaker 3: something's different in her makeup routine, or just the glasses,
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Speaker 3: But a lot of people have been commenting on her appearance,
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Speaker 3: and I think she looks really smart, looks like the
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Speaker 3: attorney that she is.
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Speaker 4: She's well spoken, and.
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Speaker 3: I feel like she she's probably you know, went back
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Speaker 3: and forth with Carolina a little too much, like maybe
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Speaker 3: she shouldn't have, you know, been a little feet. It
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Speaker 3: fed into Carolina as much as she did, but I
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Speaker 3: feel like at least she got her point across and
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Speaker 3: hopefully she's able to move forward after this woman. Until all,
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Speaker 3: even though the two of them probably won't be friends,
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Speaker 3: maybe we'll see both of them in Paradise.
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Speaker 2: Dina's going to go into this friendship with like gard
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Speaker 2: On for sure, like a bullet proof vest. She's not
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Speaker 2: gonna trust anything anymore. But Dina her makeup routine. In
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Speaker 2: her look, she looked so good. She looked softer. I
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Speaker 2: liked the curls and her There's something softer about her face.
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Speaker 2: I loved it. I want to see more of this
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Speaker 2: Dina look. The other big thing to come out of
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Speaker 2: this show was that she says, my family was actually
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Speaker 2: torn on meeting you, and I made the final decision
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Speaker 2: not to have them meet you because I didn't want
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Speaker 2: it to be like an internal family conflict. Jesse asked
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Speaker 2: Well that she regrets it, and she said, yeah, sometimes
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Speaker 2: a little bit, and yeah, it made me think. I'm
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Speaker 2: not sure. I think that I would, just knowing myself,
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Speaker 2: if my family was internally conflicted about it. I would
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Speaker 2: think that it was probably something that they could get
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Speaker 2: over that like, once they did it, they would be
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Speaker 2: happy that they did it, so we would just go
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Speaker 2: forward with it. Dina said that she didn't know it
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Speaker 2: was going to be as big of a deal. She
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Speaker 2: wishes that she would go back and be like, hey, like,
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Speaker 2: what does this mean to you? Like this this is
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Speaker 2: really concern you. What was your take on all this?
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Speaker 3: And it definitely seems like Grant was going to send
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Speaker 3: her home regardless, So I don't think it was to
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Speaker 3: make one like clearly he's falling in love, like he said,
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Speaker 3: you know, to Letia and Juliana at their hometowns. So
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Speaker 3: I think that it's sad that Dina like let that
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Speaker 3: eat herself up. It sounds like she didn't give herself
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Speaker 3: her family enough prep time, Like maybe she didn't think
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Speaker 3: she was going to make it too hometowns, and when
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Speaker 3: she found that she was going there was really was
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Speaker 3: only a few days to scramble. So it kind of
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Speaker 3: sucks that, like her family was divided over it, and
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Speaker 3: that they she made the joint decision to step in
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Speaker 3: and be like everyone stop fighting. Nobody's coming. So that's
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Speaker 3: kind of how it seemed like it went down. I
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Speaker 3: wish she was able to bring a couple of her
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Speaker 3: siblings since she has ten so many. But ultimately, like
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Speaker 3: when she explained it, it does make sense, you know
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Speaker 3: why she didn't want to take that gamble when there
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Speaker 3: was when it was causing such a divide in her family.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, no judgment. I just said what I would
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Speaker 2: have probably done. But I have no idea how a
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Speaker 2: family of eleven children navigate issues like this. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's just me and my sister eleven children. So it's
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Speaker 2: like if you were to say, like, hey, half my siblings,
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Speaker 2: can you come just like be down to do this,
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Does that divide the family? Does that
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Speaker 2: like really piss them the other side off? I understand
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Speaker 2: why she made the choice that she did, and yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't think it ultimately made any difference.
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Speaker 4: They're a tight family unit.
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Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, it's it's cool to be that
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Speaker 2: close when you have eleven siblings.
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Speaker 4: Yes, so it is what it is.
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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, I still think she's gonna
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Speaker 3: go to Paradise and hopefully find love and luckily her
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Speaker 3: family won't have to be involved in that, and it
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Speaker 3: makes sense like she chose to go on TV, her
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Speaker 3: family didn't, so it is what it is.
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Speaker 2: And I do agree with you. I think that time
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Speaker 2: was a big factor. It's hard to be able to
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Speaker 2: get everybody on one page when you have like five days,
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Speaker 2: not even five days, to decide what to do exactly.
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Speaker 3: So she she still held her own and you know,
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Speaker 3: she had to get that cry out when she saw
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Speaker 3: Grant to get that closure, but it seems like she got.
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Speaker 3: And now I'm trying to think about who I want
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Speaker 3: to ship her with for Bachelor in Paradise because I
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Speaker 3: definitely think she'll be there. I mean, there's only a
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Speaker 3: few girls this season. I think we'll definitely be there,
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Speaker 3: and I think we'll see her. I think we'll see Carolina.
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Speaker 3: I think we'll see Rose and maybe even Chloe in
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Speaker 3: Alex and Alex.
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Speaker 2: If Alex is down to do it. For some reason,
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Speaker 2: Alex feels like she might not be a Paradise girly right, but.
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Speaker 3: Hopefully she's Sina. She got a lot of airtime last night.
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Speaker 3: She had like a whole hot seat.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was interesting. We didn't get much out of that.
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Speaker 2: We got that her mom wants to be on the
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Speaker 2: Golden which is probably why she got it, because they're
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Speaker 2: probably putting her on the Golden Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I did see a lot of comments online that there
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Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of room for talk between the girls.
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Speaker 3: They really focused in on a lot of these hot
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Speaker 3: seats for a while. And Carolina that a lot of
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Speaker 3: the other girls who are like you could call them
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Speaker 3: the extras if they went home early. They really didn't.
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Speaker 3: We didn't hear them speak at all, Like they didn't
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Speaker 3: even get like one question.
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Speaker 2: That's true. And you know what's also really weird is
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Speaker 2: that they had Beverly there and then they didn't have
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Speaker 2: her say anything about her appendectomy? Right, what Why have
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Speaker 2: her there and not talk about why she had a
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Speaker 2: dramatic early exit.
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Speaker 4: Must have got cut.
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Speaker 2: It probably probably got cut. Yes, now it's the big
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Speaker 2: teas for the finale. What is your take on Grant's
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Speaker 2: facial expressions. I feel like this is not going to
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Speaker 2: end well for him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, his body language looked a little exhausted and a
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Speaker 3: little upset, which is normal to see with some bachelors
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Speaker 3: after a long season. They could be wearing the exhaustion.
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Speaker 3: But he also should be excited that it's almost over.
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Speaker 3: So I think that he might be anticipating some backlash
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Speaker 3: in these next couple of weeks when we see what
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Speaker 3: goes down at the finale, and I think he's probably
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Speaker 3: wearing that and getting nervous for the fans to see
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Speaker 3: what really went down.
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Speaker 2: He certainly hasn't gotten backlash yet.
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Speaker 3: No, he's gotten a very clean edit. Yeah, it's very
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Speaker 3: just cookie cutter. I mean, he hasn't made much of
18:12
Speaker 3: an impression on me, so it's not I'm not like
18:15
Speaker 3: I don't love him, I don't not like him, like
18:17
Speaker 3: he's kind of just.
18:20
Speaker 2: Yeah. The girls have definitely led the season as a
18:23
Speaker 2: lot of times they say they do. Okay, Well, what's
18:27
Speaker 2: your final prediction? Seeing the scenes for the next couple episodes,
18:31
Speaker 2: I think that it's intense to see him say I
18:34
Speaker 2: love you to Letia, and if he doesn't pick her
18:36
Speaker 2: after the I love you, I love you, that's always
18:40
Speaker 2: that's always dramatic.
18:42
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
18:42
Speaker 3: One'm gland to know that there's two weeks. I originally
18:44
Speaker 3: thought next week was going to be the finale. Yeah,
18:46
Speaker 3: so I would have been like, wow, that would have
18:49
Speaker 3: gone fast. So next week I think should be interesting.
18:51
Speaker 3: I think just the whole Fantasy Suites aspect adds a
18:56
Speaker 3: different layer because did you know that Grant was celibate?
18:59
Speaker 4: This came out last.
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Speaker 2: Week, but tell us everything.
19:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been celibate for a year going into the Bachelor.
19:07
Speaker 3: He was in a seven year long relationship before he
19:10
Speaker 3: was on gen season, so he was really trying to
19:12
Speaker 3: be intentional with having sex. So he opened up about
19:16
Speaker 3: it on The Bile Files last week about how he
19:18
Speaker 3: was celibate going into the Bachelor's So I really think
19:21
Speaker 3: that that should come up during this week's Fantasy Suites
19:25
Speaker 3: because they're already trying to make this storyline about Letia
19:28
Speaker 3: not wanting to sleep with him because she's Mormon, but
19:30
Speaker 3: now it seems like she's not gonna have to worry
19:32
Speaker 3: about that anyway because he won't be sleeping with anyone.
19:35
Speaker 3: So that will that potentially could make a lot less
19:37
Speaker 3: drama on the Fantasy Suites than what we're used to
19:40
Speaker 3: or what we were hoping for.
19:42
Speaker 2: Wow, that does change things. That does make things easier
19:47
Speaker 2: for her, assuming all assumptions, but yes.
19:50
Speaker 3: Assuming yeah, So I wonder how they'll have those conversations
19:53
Speaker 3: and how they'll navigate those conversations. I think we're all
19:56
Speaker 3: on agreement that we think Zobe's probably going to go
19:58
Speaker 3: home next week at the the final three. So I
20:01
Speaker 3: would be interested to see just how she goes home.
20:04
Speaker 3: Is she is it a mutual decision, does she walk
20:06
Speaker 3: herself out? Is she gonna cry and be really heartbroken
20:09
Speaker 3: about it, or is she gonna just you know, shrug
20:11
Speaker 3: her shoulder and move on. I think her exit is
20:14
Speaker 3: what's keeping me interested.
20:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is. They definitely voiced over the whole, like
20:20
Speaker 2: I could see myself engaged to this woman. That's definitely
20:23
Speaker 2: not about Dewey in my opinion, that's to throw us
20:27
Speaker 2: with it up. Yeah, No, okay, Well, Zach, is there
20:31
Speaker 2: anything else that we've missed that was really dramatic during
20:35
Speaker 2: Women to all?
20:36
Speaker 4: It was a little lackluster.
20:39
Speaker 2: Anything that, you know that to spice it up?
20:42
Speaker 4: I know, I'm trying to think.
20:43
Speaker 3: I mean, I think what we got and I did
20:45
Speaker 3: watch some interviews, is there really wasn't resolution. Like I said,
20:48
Speaker 3: it's with Carolina and some of the girls, like usually
20:50
Speaker 3: you'll see like a hug or like something at the end,
20:53
Speaker 3: and we didn't get any of that. So I think
20:55
Speaker 3: we can expect some of that drama to carry over
20:57
Speaker 3: in Paradise. I also did notice that a lot of
20:59
Speaker 3: people giving Jesse Palmer a hard time last night, and
21:02
Speaker 3: I kind of agreed. It seemed like he didn't know
21:04
Speaker 3: when to step in when the girls were fighting, and
21:06
Speaker 3: he wasn't good at guiding any resolution or just conversation.
21:10
Speaker 3: So I think we have to give him a little
21:12
Speaker 3: bit of flak for last night, at least the way
21:14
Speaker 3: it was shown.
21:14
Speaker 4: I just didn't think he did much as a host.
21:17
Speaker 2: Okay, respect I did see a comment that was like,
21:20
Speaker 2: Dina is actually hosting this thing.
21:23
Speaker 4: Right exactly. There was just like a lot of screaming.
21:27
Speaker 3: I felt like I would didn't get to hear from
21:28
Speaker 3: all the girls, So this was probably more of a letdown,
21:31
Speaker 3: I would say, out of all the tell.
21:32
Speaker 2: Alls, I just feel like tell alls need to be reevaluated.
21:36
Speaker 2: Ben and I you like, tell All's you told us
21:38
Speaker 2: last week that you were really excited about this. I
21:41
Speaker 2: get so angry when they're like and next week women
21:47
Speaker 2: tell All, I'm like, no.
21:49
Speaker 5: Gary radis sweet.
21:52
Speaker 2: I just don't feel like I need it, especially in
21:54
Speaker 2: a season that is already two episodes shorter than the
21:58
Speaker 2: norm Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely is a little bit shorter. Huh yeah.
22:02
Speaker 3: I like tell all just because it's like the drama's
22:04
Speaker 3: heightened and it's usually a place to solve all the issues.
22:08
Speaker 3: So it was It was okay, but like I said,
22:09
Speaker 3: it could have been better. We did get a lot
22:11
Speaker 3: of that snow white content.
22:13
Speaker 2: For a lot of snow Hey, the mirror mirror thing
22:17
Speaker 2: worked better than I thought. I was thinking that, like, oh,
22:20
Speaker 2: this is cheesy, but then when we got the clip
22:24
Speaker 2: of Rose and Grant, that was worth it. And then
22:28
Speaker 2: it was funny to see some behind the scenes info.
22:30
Speaker 2: The bloopers were really good this season. Good bloopers were
22:35
Speaker 2: and it just again as bloopers always do, made me
22:38
Speaker 2: feel like they need to keep some of that lightheartedness
22:42
Speaker 2: into the show. Like Carolina said, do you want to
22:46
Speaker 2: make me want to make out with me intensely? And
22:48
Speaker 2: then let me smell your armpit?
22:50
Speaker 5: Like what?
22:50
Speaker 2: Wait? Why do you like smelling armpits?
22:53
Speaker 3: It was a little creepy, but I actually do want
22:55
Speaker 3: to see snow White, and I think a lot of
22:57
Speaker 3: people do, so I'm glad that they're promoting a movie
22:59
Speaker 3: that is approved, and they also approved. They also talked
23:03
Speaker 3: about mom talk, which is what you guys said too.
23:05
Speaker 3: The Secret Life of Mormon Wife season two taking over
23:08
Speaker 3: The Bachelor at timeslot. They announced the premiere of that
23:11
Speaker 3: show for May.
23:12
Speaker 2: Fifteenth, and it's a Monday.
23:16
Speaker 4: It's a Monday, okay, yeah.
23:18
Speaker 2: Interesting, alrighty well, thank you for recapping this with me,
23:22
Speaker 2: and you're going to stick around for headlines this week
23:25
Speaker 2: and they are jush all right, see you guys, Ben,
23:30
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Bye.
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