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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers/Browns Matchups · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, biggest thing jumps off a film is this is
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: a really fast group. You know, you talk about the front,
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  Speaker 1: Mason Graham, obviously Jared Verse on the other side, and
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  Speaker 1: then Carson Schlesinger right in the middle. This is a
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  Speaker 1: team that's, they're a little bit lighter.
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  Speaker 2: They're fast.
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  Speaker 1: They're really active. They chase the entire group. They play hard.
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  Speaker 1: They're striking at the ball. They have a real cool
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  Speaker 1: style about how they're playing football. And again, when things
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: pop out and maybe they don't cover a concept well
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  Speaker 1: here and there, I know that's a communication thing as
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  Speaker 1: groups go through those growing pains of playing football together.
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  Speaker 1: But this is a group that I really respect and
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  Speaker 1: was able to talk about them a little bit today
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  Speaker 1: in the meeting and really highlight some of the features
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  Speaker 1: of what they do and the disguise coverages and things.
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  Speaker 3: Coach Canales talking about the Browns defense. We're getting ready
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  Speaker 3: to talk about things, Bone, about this matchup. We love
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  Speaker 3: guys we think can really exploit the matchup on the
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  Speaker 3: other side of them. And then we're going to talk
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  Speaker 3: about things we're worried about. I will say this about
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  Speaker 3: the Cleveland defense. Like you and I were talking about
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  Speaker 3: it yesterday. I think it's clearly the best defense we
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  Speaker 3: will have faced to this point. And, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: did not remember this. I knew they had a pretty
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  Speaker 3: good defense with Miles Garrett last year. and obviously he's
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  Speaker 3: not there this year, but they were fourth in total
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  Speaker 3: defense last year. Third in pass defense. And obviously, we
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  Speaker 3: had Nick Wilson on yesterday, and during the time where
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  Speaker 3: we were not completely goofing off and reminiscing about his
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  Speaker 3: days when he was here, during that portion of the interview, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: he talked about it's not just... Ward it's not just
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  Speaker 3: Denzel Ward Tyson Campbell those guys are seen as a
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  Speaker 3: really good corner combo so whether we have Coker playing
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  Speaker 3: or not and now we're worried about that because he
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  Speaker 3: didn't practice nor did XL yesterday with the ankle injury
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  Speaker 3: these are some good corners for either TMAC or hopefully
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  Speaker 3: TMAC and Coker to go against man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah I mean it's this is why I thought this
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  Speaker 4: one is a little bit I don't know if scarier
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  Speaker 4: is the right word, but I think this one, Mac,
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  Speaker 4: takes a little more thought because I think this is
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  Speaker 4: going to be based off injuries and just.
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  Speaker 4: I thought they were, look, I thought Atlanta was just,
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  Speaker 4: last week they were just ripe to get blown out
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  Speaker 4: even at home. The Browns, I don't think they're going
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  Speaker 4: to beat the Panthers, but I just have that feeling
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  Speaker 4: of more of a, Finney brought up a great example yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: That Jets game last year where you kind of figured
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  Speaker 4: that the Panthers were going to win, but I think
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be a little bit more of a
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  Speaker 4: slugfest than we saw a week ago. When he made
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  Speaker 4: that great point, though, he did. Tyson Campbell's been limited,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, in practice this week. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 4: he'll be all right.
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  Speaker 3: The only guy that hasn't practiced at all this week
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  Speaker 3: that's had any DNPs is Tevin Jenkins, their right guard.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: The limiteds don't really get my attention much, Bone. But
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  Speaker 3: the DNPs, and they don't have near as many as
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  Speaker 3: we do. My listening was limited in the last hour.
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  Speaker 3: You're good now, baby. I may have gotten caught in
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of a jam there.
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  Speaker 2: For a second.
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  Speaker 5: You're good now, though, baby.
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  Speaker 6: We good.
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  Speaker 5: Fitty, though, I will say this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Fitty was making that great analogy of could this
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  Speaker 3: be one where the offense has to work harder to
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  Speaker 3: score and may be ugly. Maybe lower scoring and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that. Philly did get caught in one, though. A
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  Speaker 3: little pickle. He started it by saying, this is going
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  Speaker 3: to be a shutout. He ended it by saying, I
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  Speaker 3: could see a 17-6 sort of game.
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  Speaker 5: I got your back though, Finney.
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  Speaker 4: We can't always, just because you say words, we don't
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  Speaker 4: have to use them against you, do we?
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  Speaker 6: Also, Mac, I'm going to predict them to win in
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  Speaker 6: a shootout. That doesn't mean.
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  Speaker 5: That's what- You mean a shutout. Now you're saying shootout.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're going to win in a shutout. That doesn't
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  Speaker 6: mean that's how this is going to unfold. Two things
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  Speaker 6: can be true. Just like the most true statement on
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  Speaker 6: Sunday is going to be this right from our good
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  Speaker 6: friend Mike Tomlin.
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  Speaker 2: The Browns is the Browns.
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  Speaker 5: That is true.
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  Speaker 3: Every time we try to talk about, oh, but we're injured,
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  Speaker 3: we have to remind ourselves of that fact.
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  Speaker 5: The Browns. How about how mad Todd Bonkin got about that? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: He messed the saying up, though. He's like, Browns are
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  Speaker 5: going to Browns. That's that. But anyway.
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  Speaker 6: We need that one, too.
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  Speaker 5: We've got that one in there somewhere. Finney's got all
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  Speaker 5: the hits, baby. Finney's got all the hits. Work that
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  Speaker 5: one in, too, Fin. Mac, I was trying to.
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  Speaker 4: I went to AI today, and I typed in some
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  Speaker 4: info trying to figure out if we can. What suggestions
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  Speaker 4: they had for our Friday show. pick names, like fortune tellers, magicians.
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  Speaker 4: What names would they list off for me? And I
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  Speaker 4: explained a little bit about us. They called you Notre Damnedus.
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  Speaker 5: I thought, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Notre Damnedus. That's pretty good, isn't it? Oh, I wonder
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  Speaker 3: what you told them. This guy never gets a pick right.
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  Speaker 3: They had me as Big Bankruptcy. Big Bank, all right.
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  Speaker 3: And they had Finney as Joshua Fades Marlow.
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  Speaker 5: Fades, baby. All right. I've got to tell you, Notre
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  Speaker 5: Dame dust. It's not bad, is it?
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  Speaker 3: That's well-played AI. We'll score one for AI, zero for
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  Speaker 3: Mac there. All right, so let's get into the match-ups. Sorry, Fades.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get into the match-ups here. Bankrupt, Fades, Notre Dame
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  Speaker 3: dust is going to break this down. What is— because I
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  Speaker 3: do think it does need to be said, as much
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  Speaker 3: as we, the Browns, the whole Browns are the clowns
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  Speaker 3: and all that stuff, right?
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  Speaker 5: I think it does need to be said.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like the best defense we're going to face,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't necessarily feel like, oh, it's the second
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  Speaker 3: straight route on the road. They just beat the Bucs.
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  Speaker 3: They just went on the road and beat the Bucs.
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  Speaker 3: But let's start on the positive front. What do you
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  Speaker 3: like about this matchup the most for the Panthers, though, Bob?
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  Speaker 4: I love what I think the Panthers' run game can
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  Speaker 4: do if they stick with it. I think this is
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  Speaker 4: going to be a big Chuba game. I like the Panthers'
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  Speaker 4: running attack. against the Browns front. Yes, the secondary is
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  Speaker 4: a problem. So I do think they're going to have
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  Speaker 4: to establish the run more and stick with it than
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  Speaker 4: they have the previous couple of games. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think they're going to be able to air it out
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  Speaker 4: quite as much in this game as they have. And listen,
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  Speaker 4: if we don't have Coker and or XL. You know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe that lends itself more to that game plan. And
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  Speaker 4: the Browns have been getting run on.
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  Speaker 3: There is no doubt about that. So I just I
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  Speaker 3: just feel like I feel like this is a game bone.
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  Speaker 3: I think we can win in the trenches on both
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  Speaker 3: sides of the field. I think to your point, they
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  Speaker 3: can run the ball. And here's the thing. Where is
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  Speaker 3: as low as we rank run yards per game, like
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  Speaker 3: 20th or something like that. We're 11th in yards per carry.
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  Speaker 3: And we all know the numbers would be even bigger
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  Speaker 3: if it wasn't for the penalties. So we're third in
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  Speaker 3: the league in penalties right now. Just stop with the
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  Speaker 3: damn penalties on offense. Stop with the penalties while you're blocking.
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  Speaker 3: Stop with the procedural penalties on offense. and let's just
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  Speaker 3: actually get all the yards that we deserve. I think
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  Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball, I think we
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  Speaker 3: can shut down their run game. They have been really
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  Speaker 3: struggling to run the ball, 2.8 yards a carry. You
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  Speaker 3: brought up the fact that Deshaun Watson, who still runs
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  Speaker 3: pretty well, I mean, not as scary as he used
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  Speaker 3: to be, but still runs pretty well, but he's their
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  Speaker 3: leading rusher. Judkins averages like 2.3, 2.4 yards a carry.
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  Speaker 3: Their run block numbers are really bad on all the
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  Speaker 3: different sites in terms of metrics, Bone. It just feels
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  Speaker 3: like we can. And I already look like I know
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta ran for 157 on us, and I know we
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  Speaker 3: rank Bone dead last in run defense in the league
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  Speaker 3: right now, in large part because of the 291 from
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  Speaker 3: week one. I think we can win this matchup. Look
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  Speaker 3: at the way Atlanta ran the ball last night. They
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  Speaker 3: didn't run the ball on us like that. We didn't
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  Speaker 3: totally shut them down, but they didn't run it near
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  Speaker 3: like they did last night.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. Also, you mentioned the running of
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  Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson, Mac. He's about one pick or fumble though
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  Speaker 4: away from being run out of the stadium also by
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  Speaker 4: that fan base.
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  Speaker 5: Seriously, dude.
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  Speaker 4: So right now, it's good vibes because they won, but
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  Speaker 4: it's not exactly like, oh, we'll give Deshaun a full
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  Speaker 4: game because they won. No, they're... Some fans are probably
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  Speaker 4: upset that he played well, Matt, because they want to
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  Speaker 4: pounce on to John Watson. So they are ready to
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  Speaker 4: go for any mistake that dude makes.
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  Speaker 3: And we have forced turnovers on the first drive each
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  Speaker 3: game this year. We have started with a bang. Matter
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  Speaker 3: of fact, we're the number one turnover-forcing team in the
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  Speaker 3: league right now. And that'll happen, Bo, when you have
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  Speaker 3: five in one game this early in the season. But
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  Speaker 3: can we do that to Watson? Can we do that early?
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  Speaker 3: He's had the eighth most turnover-worthy plays, courtesy of PFF.
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  Speaker 3: If you're thinking bone, turning the crowd against him with
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  Speaker 3: a turnover, this texter says, got to be honest. It
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  Speaker 3: feels like the first game where Bryce might not have
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  Speaker 3: a huge game. Do you believe that bone? Do you
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  Speaker 3: not believe that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, at some point, Bryce, is he going to
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  Speaker 4: keep putting up the numbers that are historic in nature,
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  Speaker 4: but it doesn't mean Bryce can't play well and do
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  Speaker 4: what he's doing. I think Bryce will still play well.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it'll be the, You know, the
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  Speaker 4: amount of touchdown passes in yards. But I'm confident that
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  Speaker 4: this is a matchup where Bryce can still play well.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 6: It's not a big game, though. Like, Mac, I think
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  Speaker 6: I think we're done with the 140 yard passing games
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  Speaker 6: because it has proven through the first two games. We're
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  Speaker 6: going to push the football down the field. So, I
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  Speaker 6: don't think, he may not throw for 300 yards and
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  Speaker 6: three tuds. He'll still put up, though, I think, 230.
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  Speaker 6: Even if they run the ball the way Bones is
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  Speaker 6: saying they're going to run the ball, because they're going,
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  Speaker 6: and I know they've got two good man corners, but
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  Speaker 6: they're going to challenge this defense with how they push
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  Speaker 6: the football vertically down.
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  Speaker 5: The field. Even if they don't have Coker and XL?
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  Speaker 6: I still think so because I think that's who Brad
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  Speaker 6: Idzik is as a play caller. I know this is
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  Speaker 6: their offense and they built this thing together, but he
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  Speaker 6: calls it differently. He won. This is what the offense
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  Speaker 6: could have looked like the last two years if Dave.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't a play caller. Was Bryce ready for all this, too?
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  Speaker 3: That's another thing. This is the best version of Bryce.
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  Speaker 3: Were those weapons ready to do that? They weren't developed yet.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's all part of a stew, of a
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  Speaker 3: deep passing game stew that has resulted.
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  Speaker 5: I'll say this. You like stew, Mac? I'll say... I
• 10:35
  Speaker 5: knew it. I knew we were in trouble. I love
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: Jonathan Stewart.
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  Speaker 2: I love him.
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  Speaker 5: He's great. All right.
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  Speaker 3: There's not many foods I don't like, Fitty, except vegetables.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the matchup in the passing game. Because
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: Denzel Ward and Tyson Campbell, two good corners. This is
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  Speaker 3: man coverage. We're going to see a lot of man coverage.
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: Cleveland messed around, played a ton of zone in their
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: first game, and Lawrence lit them up.
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  Speaker 5: Parker Washington lit them up.
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  Speaker 3: They went back to their customary tons of man last week,
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  Speaker 3: and they did a job on Baker Mayfield. Not one
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: wide receiver had more than 49 yards for Tampa last week.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, there is a matchup in there, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: that I think we can exploit. Their dude that's in
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  Speaker 3: the slot, I think we can give the business to.
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  Speaker 3: They don't put Ward in the slot. They don't put
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  Speaker 3: Campbell in the slot. But they do put Miles Harden
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  Speaker 3: in the slot. And I believe we put, if Coker,
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  Speaker 3: if he plays, get him in there. Waller, get him
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  Speaker 3: in the slot. And obviously get T-Mac some in the slot.
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  Speaker 3: Because those stud corners will not travel. Not that I
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  Speaker 3: don't think T-Mac can't make plays on those guys. But
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  Speaker 3: if you want to get a favorable matchup, which I
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: think Brad Idzik and Dave Kanellis want to do, You
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: go after Miles Harden, their slot corner. It feels like
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  Speaker 3: a huge drop-off from the first two dudes to him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because the.
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  Speaker 4: Guys on the outside that we talked about are good,
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  Speaker 4: and their linebacker play is pretty good, too. So you're
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  Speaker 4: going to have to find the gaps in the matchups
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  Speaker 4: that you're talking about to exploit it, because that probably, Matt,
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: you would say, is the strength of the Cleveland team, right?
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  Speaker 4: The corners and the linebacker. Schlesinger real good. Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 4: going to have to try to find... the gaps in
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  Speaker 4: the matchups to exploit because those other guys are good, man.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a good matchup for Freeling and Walker.
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  Speaker 4: Jared Verst only has one pressure. Mason Graham has the
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  Speaker 4: only sacks from their defensive line so far from the interior.
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  Speaker 4: Knock on wood, I think this can be a better
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  Speaker 4: matchup because our tackles struggled last week, man.
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  Speaker 3: Today, Walker and Freeling both gave up a sack, and
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  Speaker 3: they gave up 10 combined pressures. Now, let's be honest, though.
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: This is not a game where we feel like, well,
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: We'll make our predictions later, see if anybody's picking a route.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure Fitty will.
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  Speaker 4: Fitty's either got it as a shutout or a shootout.
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  Speaker 5: We're not really sure what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: It could go either way. What are you worried about?
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  Speaker 3: Does anything scare you about the Browns? Is scare too
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  Speaker 3: strong of a word?
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  Speaker 4: What makes me a little bit cautious or nervous, I
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  Speaker 4: would say, is the Coker injury. Because of how good
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  Speaker 4: those corners are, I would like to see our guys
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  Speaker 4: healthy versus those guys. So I believe that the concerns
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  Speaker 4: would be on our end of the injuries. And also,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who you're playing in the NFL. It
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  Speaker 4: is hard to win road games. It's hard to win
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  Speaker 4: back-to-back road games against anybody. So I think more of...
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  Speaker 4: My issues would be on the side of the Panthers
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  Speaker 4: or mentality.
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  Speaker 3: So you don't really have anything about the Browns that
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  Speaker 3: worries you. Other than maybe their corners, right? Their pass
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  Speaker 3: defense maybe making it tougher for our elite-wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: And Arnold Schwarzenegger, our linebacker there, he kind of worries
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  Speaker 4: me a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: What's his name there? Schlesinger, baby. Schlesinger, yeah, my bad.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be back. That's what he said about where he
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: will be. He'll be back on the field on Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: Fitty, are you worried?
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  Speaker 3: Bone has just given the Browns some bulletin board material.
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  Speaker 3: He does not fear anything with the Browns.
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  Speaker 4: I worry about us more than I worry about the
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  Speaker 4: Browns beating us.
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  Speaker 5: Does that make any sense, Fitty? Do you worry about anything, Fitty,
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  Speaker 5: with the Browns?
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  Speaker 6: Not overly.
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  Speaker 7: I do.
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  Speaker 6: I wonder how much of what we saw last week, Mac,
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  Speaker 6: from Watson is real. And I think what you did
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  Speaker 6: was you pointed out a great point. You look at
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  Speaker 6: that stat line, and he was 24 of 30. I
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  Speaker 6: forget for how many passing guards it was.
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  Speaker 2: 238. Looks great.
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  Speaker 5: 238.
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  Speaker 6: But the average yards of attempt, it was like he
• 14:30
  Speaker 6: was pushing the football down the field. It was a
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: bunch of dink and dunks, and maybe that's what that
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: offense in Cleveland is going to be.
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  Speaker 3: They get a lot of yards after the catch. Nick
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  Speaker 3: was talking about this yesterday, and the stats show it too.
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  Speaker 3: They get a lot of their yards after the catch
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  Speaker 3: versus Watson throwing the ball deep downfield.
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  Speaker 5: So you've got to tackle. You've got to tackle these dudes.
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  Speaker 6: To me, the recipe has been what the first two
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: games have been. Let's get off to a fast start
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  Speaker 6: on both sides of the ball. Can we get an
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: early turnover? Can we get a quick three and out?
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  Speaker 6: And can we get a lead and make that fan
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: base turn on him early?
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  Speaker 3: Make them get as bitter as those Green Bay fans
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  Speaker 3: were last night.
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  Speaker 5: Damn, I've never seen those nice Green Bay fans so angry.
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: Because, Mac, if he gets the ball and he walks
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: them right down the field, and let's say they get
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: a quick 10-3 lead or something, and he starts to believe...
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: And then that, that, that stadium starts to believe and
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: that negative energy that's been surrounding them for the last handful.
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  Speaker 5: Of years goes away.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: You don't want that.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: And their belief rises.
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: How about we could be in for.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: A dog fight?
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: How about it?
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you did there to dog, dog,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: dog pound 704 number. I'm a diehard Browns fan moved
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: here years ago from Cleveland. You are underestimating Deshaun. He
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: is a different quarterback this year. and you're underestimating our
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: rookie receivers. Concepcion is a beast in the slot, and
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Denzel Boston is an absolute stud. Here's the thing, though.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: We've got Mike, Jack, and Horn. They're going to be.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Boston plays outside. He's going to get one of those guys,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: I would think, just about every time. So as good
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: as he's been, and there was a clip bone, I
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: think you were the one that found it, you were fit,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: he found it, of McShay and Steve Mensch raving about
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: how good Denzel Boston's been and they knew he was
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: going to be good. Like, he is their big play threat.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: But I like my guys Horne and Mike Jack against
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: a Rook playing his third game.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: I will concede. You know who else has great offensive weapons, Mac?
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: The Atlanta Falcons did also. That was their strength entering
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: the game, right?
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: I will concede.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: And they do have great offensive weapons. We saw them
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: last night when they were melting the cheese.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: Melting the cheese.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: The Concepcion in the slot thing is interesting. Who for
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: our squad is going to cover the shifty little slot guy?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Because Merrick can't do that. Merrick plays the slot a lot.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Don't put Jimmy Horn on. Don't make it a Merrick
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: versus Jimmy Horn matchup.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: You've got to have Shaw Smith's weight up for this.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: Game, right?
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Do you use him this week? Last week they used
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Horn in the slot, eight snaps. Caleb Evans in there,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: six snaps. Or do you go back to Shaw Smith-Wade?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I would think maybe Shaw Smith-Wade, like you're saying, is
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: a good point. This dude says, did that Browns guy
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: text y'all with a straight face that Deshaun Watson's a
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: different QB? Yeah, I don't know if I'm buying all that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: He played a good game the other day, but he
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: wasn't good in week one. And obviously the preseason, it
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: was so rough that the Browns fans wanted to murder
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: the guy.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to do the Mac disrespect
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: on Friday, get your ass kicked on Sunday routine. I
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: don't want to do all that, but I just, I
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: don't know the most. Jerry Judy's only got two catches.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: The rookies are early in their career. And I just don't,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not buying Watson off one solid game where like
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: 50 said, his average distance target was like 3.9 yards.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: You know i have some news fresh off the wire
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: mac bryce young also a different guy this year.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah baby hell yeah baby good call how about
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: this how about this text shocking development you guys have
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: found a cleveland transplant here can we talk about the
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: real issue all those people from ohio coming down here
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: and ruining our state i.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: Believe that midwestern people are worse than yankees Do.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: They not count as Yankees? People from Cleveland aren't Yankees?
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: No, they're from the Midwest. They're Midwesterners.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: That's the North, though, isn't it?
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: I don't view them as Midwesterners. Look, I love to
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: complain about Northerners, too. Even though my best friend, God
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: bless his soul, is a Yankee.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: God rest his soul? You're talking about Flounder? You just
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: put Flounder six feet under. God rest his Flounder soul.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Love you, Flounder.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: I think people from the Midwest... specifically Ohio, maybe even Missouri,
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: they are the worst kinds of people.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Missouri, I wonder why.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: And it's why, Mac, I declared one time on the
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Kyle Bailey show, I don't think you should be allowed
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: to relocate from your region. Like, if you're born in
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: the South, you stay in the South. You're born in
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: the North, you stay in the North. You're born in
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: the Midwest.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Because you want to host this show? Is that why?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe. Maybe.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Are we not allowed to become old enough to make
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: our own choices of where we live and realize that
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the South is a way better place to live? Are
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: we not allowed to do that? I believe we should
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: be allowed to do that. I'm just glad that Fitty
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: called people from Ohio more annoying than people from the Northeast.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I'll take that, you know? Felt good.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: What also feels good is when Lee Sterling joins us
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: for his weekly picks from ParamountSports.com. Lee is next on
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: the Mac and Bone Show, Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Happy football.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Friday, everybody.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Finney said happy Football Friday to the Ohio Transplants with
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: a hell of a message. You've got some fan mail, Finney.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Fan mail on the text line that you could deal with.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: We've got letters. This dude says Finney is not a uniter.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: He is a divider.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: Divide and conquer. That's my strategy.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: But another texter wants Finney to run for president after
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: what he just heard.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. I don't know.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: It can't be much worse than our current state.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 92, did you hear
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: what he just said about you?
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: I heard what he said. I'm going to tell that
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: little bald, humpty-dumpty-looking son of a gun to shut up.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: That was a very— you just transitioned into.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Ripping yourself there.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, he had a self-strike ready, man. By the way,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: we got to do this before too long. We got
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: to play the clip of Steve Sarkeesian explaining how having
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the president of the game makes it harder on the
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: teams and the coaching staffs involved.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: And what it did to Indiana and Miami in the
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: championship game. Yeah, which is being refuted.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: It's interesting.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Some people are refuting that. Not Lee Sterling. We got
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: to play that clip. But Lee Sterling is here to do.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I forgot we had a Canes fan on the line.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Lee Sterling is here for all business, baby. He's here
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: to give you some winners. And he doesn't care if
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: you're from Ohio, if you're from North Carolina originally, where
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you move, if you're from Timbuktu, he doesn't care. He
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: can give you winners. And let's go through some of
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: these games with Lee Sterling, our show handicapper, Paramount Sports
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: and ParamountSports.com.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Lee, what's happening, man? How you doing?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I'm good. Actually, I had an interaction with President Trump
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: at the UFC, the last UFC at Miami. And we left,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and his motorcade was leaving. It wasn't a motorcade. It
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: was a city. There was probably 200 motorcycle police, 300 cars.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I mean... It was a bigger force than the Iranian army.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: It's crazy. It's crazy.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: The spectacle that that brings. That's what I break to
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Waffle House.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: That's how you roll.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: We're going to see. Guys, we're going to see in
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the first game if the curse, you know, he's saying
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: that Tennessee is going to win. You know, when we
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: start doing this game in a second, is that going
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: to hold true? Or is Texas, you know, are they
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: going to? Is he finally going to get a win,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: or is Texas going to blow him out?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about it, because this game is fascinating,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: and Texas is right around a five-and-a-half-point favorite in Knoxville.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: What do you think? You've already told us what the
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: president thinks, but we want to know, Lee, what do
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you think? What's the right side on this one?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: So the line has come down. It has come down
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: from five-and-a-half to four.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, dang.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's come down. There's big money.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: So.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Now we know 36 teams have three and zero records, three,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: no records. I think we know the least about Tennessee,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: but I was studying their tape of their three games.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I think their offensive line is really good. That war
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: against the Texas defensive line is going to be a
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: spectacle to watch. And again, Also, they're going to have
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to get more pressure on the quarterback than Ohio State did.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: People think of Ohio State as just great defense, but
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: they allowed Arch Manning 3.83 seconds on average to throw
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the football. That's a lot in college football. The reason
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I'm having trouble backing Texas here is on the road.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: They went five times last year, lost Ohio state. Okay.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Not terrible. Then they lose to Florida, which was not
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: good last year by nine. They lose to Georgia, 35,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: 10 blowout loss. and had to go to overtime, just
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: take it to overtime and win an overtime against the
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: two bottom feeders in the sec, Kentucky and Mississippi state.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So I, I still, I don't know if arch man
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: is even a top 10 quarterback. In my opinion, he
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: led the comeback, but this kid fouls on Brandon. If
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: he's not forced to go into third and long a
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: whole lot, I like his pedigree here. I think they
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: can run some. They have not beaten a number one team, Tennessee,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: since 1985. It's going to happen here on Saturday. Wrong
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: team favored. Tennessee straight up 28-27. Wow.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: How about that?
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: What about this ACC matchup? Louisville, 12.5-point favorites at home
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: over Wake. What's the right play here, Lee?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Well, Louisville finally won a game that was like anywhere
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: from minus three to plus three. You know, everyone remembers
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the Miami win last year, but there was a bunch
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: of games last year where they faltered. They took care
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: of business last week against SMU. Now they face a
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Wake Forest team. There's not going to be a whole
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: lot of guys on this team for Wake Forest. They're
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: going to play in the NFL, but they are a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: gutty bunch and they're going to give you all they have.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Louisville does have a weakness. They're 104th against the run.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: So I think that Wake Forest is going to run
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: a lot more than last week. They're going to try
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to bleed the clock. Also, the Deeks passing game behind
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Gio Lopez here, they're generating 6.5 yards per play. So
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I think Louisville is a more talented team, but we've
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: seen them many times before stumble. I think they're going
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to win the game 38-28, but 12 and a half
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: points is a lot. I'm taking Wake.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that, man.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: And you saw that watching your Canes last week. That
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Wake team was gutty and hung in there, man. We're
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: talking with Lee Sterling, ParamountSports.com. He's got a game of
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the week. And how about this? Louisiana-Charlotte game is the
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: game of the week that he's going to tell you
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: how to get and how to get all his picks
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: this week. And we'll get a Panthers pick from him
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: here on air, as we always do. But let's go
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: to the Sunday nighter, Rams and Broncos. I've seen this
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: spread around two and a half in favor of the Rams.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: What do you think?
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the right team is favored here.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I know the Rams won that game against the Giants,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: but bottom line, as soon as Jackson Dark got injured,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Giants just basically, that was it for them.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: So I think this is a great setup for Denver.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I think they got their confidence back last week, trailing
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: by Jacksonville, just put the grindstone down, started running the football.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Jonah Coleman, remember the name, Jonah Coleman from Washington, rookie
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: running back, came in, did a great job. They need
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to use him more. And I think they have the
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: defensive backs. It can slow down Devante Adams here. He's
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: not going to catch 195 yards, even 150 yards and
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: passes this week. He was facing a horrible giants, cornerback
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: duo and Puka looks like not going to be able
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: to play wrong team favored. Here we go. twice in
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: a row. No, three in a row. We're going Denver
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: straight up 24, 23. There you go.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Interesting matchup in the NFL between the unbeaten Raiders and the,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: you know, the, the rather the high octane offense of
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: the saints. What's the right side here. Saints favored by three.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The one in one, almost two and oh saints.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: So this is another much improved team. I mean, who
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: thought we'd be talking about this game here, but yeah, Uh,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: you know, new Orleans, uh, you know, they're just, they're gritty.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I think their passing game is much better color sugar
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: than people thought it would be. Uh, the Falcons, uh,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: were two and O versus the saints last season and
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a cousin's quarterbacking Atlanta, uh, uh, ended up beating them
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: both times. So, uh, uh, he's faced him. He faces
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: that defense early and often. So he knows Brandon Staley's, uh,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: unit and, uh, I just think that Las Vegas right
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: now with a better running game might be the play here.
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: Four in a row, Raiders win straight up also, 27-21. Dang,
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: how about that? We would love that one here, man.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: We would absolutely love that one. All right, the Panthers
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: and Browns game in Cleveland. The Panthers, two and a
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: half or so, three-point favorites depending on where you're looking, Lee.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: What's your feel for this one?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the last time the Panthers whipped the Falcons by
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the score of 30 to a real small number was
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the case Sunday, was week three last season, came back
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to lose 42-13 at New England. So Panthers, as a
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: road favorite, starting to pop up more here, three times
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: so far in the Dave Canales here regime since 2024.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Two and one straight up and against the spread after
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: last week's minus two and a half blow out here
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: over the Falcons here. The boys wearing the Brown uniform
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: here have, have grown very accustomed to being a home
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: underdog seven and 11 straight up, but in very interesting
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: 11 and seven against the spread since 2021. So I
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be a tighter game, but the
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: right team is favored Carolina Panthers here. I think they're
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: going to be able to run the ball here all
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: over Cleveland. 27-20.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: There we go.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee. Oh, man,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: we love it on Lee again this week. All right, Lee,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: so let's get down to business, though, for you because
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: these games are fun to talk about on the radio,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: but you've got picks out there. You've got a Charlotte,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Louisiana on Saturday, our 49ers. How are you going to
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: call that game? That's your game of the week, and
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: you've got a ton of games.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: How do they get your game of the week? How
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: do they get all your stuff this week?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Speaker 3 1, Louisiana, Lafayette lane, 10 taking on Charlotte.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Is it a blowout or is it a trap? I
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: love one side of this game. First 10 callers get
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: a for free call 800-400-9741 to get Louisiana Lafayette and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Charlotte on me. 800-400-9741. And how about this guys? We've
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: won four straight weeks. Think about it. The odds on
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: doing that 16 to one. So you want to make money.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: This is the week. And we have done it without
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: a big unit release. Our first, our first 40 to
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: 50 unit max wager goes on Saturday on our 40
• 30:09
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• 30:14
  Speaker 2: That's over 70%. So you're looking for a big play, uh,
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  Speaker 2: We haven't had a losing day in any sport in
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: nine days. Just one place, ParamountSports.com. Awesome, Lee.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: I'm not lost in nine hours, Lee. You're in nine hours?
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: You haven't had a loss? No, I haven't lost. Okay,
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: that's good. You're on a roll, baby. All right, Lee.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: Good luck to you. Keep it going, man. Thanks for
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: coming on.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right, Lee. Appreciate it.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: He didn't know what to do with that new zitty.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: What a streak I'm on.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: How about this text from Moore Appate? I can help
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the callers out. Louisiana minus ten and a half is
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: the play.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: That's cold, man. That's cold.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: Charlotte showed a little.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: They fought back late in that game against that a
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: little bit. Made it respectable.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Charlotte's going to knock somebody off here, all right? It's
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: just a matter of who and when, all right?
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: I like that attitude. I'm looking at you, ECU, down
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: the line. Oh, dang. All right.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the Fit Daddy right now with a
• 31:14
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• 31:15
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• 31:16
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• 31:20
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  Speaker 6: When I told Walker mail, how I wanted to greet
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: him in the side studio yesterday before his show. More importantly, Mac,
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: you mentioned get to the sports update. Steve Sarkeesian audio.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Here is the Texas head football coach talking about how
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: having the president on hand will impact in game communication.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: It won't change anything for us from a logistic standpoint,
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: a timing standpoint of, of getting there. Um, This will
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: actually be my second time. I've had one other opportunity
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: to do that. The one thing that you have to
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: be aware of when the president goes to any game
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: is that any time he enters the stadium or leaves
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: the stadium or changes locations within the stadium, they cut
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: all communication. So they cut your headsets. They cut headsets
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: to coaches. They cut headsets to coach-to-player communication. So you
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: have to have a plan for that if and or when,
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: and you get no warning. So that just gets cut out.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: So you have to have a plan for that to
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: adjust if and or when. If he comes in middle
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: of the first quarter or leaves in the fourth quarter
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: or decides he's got to use the restroom, whatever that
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: looks like, you've got to be prepared to have no
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: comms for a short amount of time.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: So whatever 92's bladder or appetite acts up, that could
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: decide the outcome of the ball game he's at.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: I got a feeling he eats like 50. Just a suspicion.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: So he did go on to say that in the
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: national title game, he said, I'm friends with Cristobal. Cristobal
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: told me in the national title game that the president
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: started leaving in the final drive of the national title
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: game and it affected Miami. Their communications went out and
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: affected them. Now, since then, there have been people, you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: reporters that have gone and talked to sources and stuff
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: like that. Kurt Cignetti himself has refuted that. He said
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: it happened at the six minute change mark on a
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: previous drive and then came back for the end of
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: the game in the final drive. There are reporters that
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: have sources at Miami saying that's not exactly true.
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: So.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that story is true, but it
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: is a variable. You know, these these coaches want to
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: prepare for every variable. It's a variable you can't prepare
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: for at any moment. Dude can start moving and it's
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: going to mess up your communication.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, if he gets a hanker for an ice
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: cream sandwich and has to get up for a minute,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: that could really affect your drive. So you have to
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: go through his eating habits, his bathroom habits, what he
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: wants to leave.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: That's a lot going on there. That's kind of crazy.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: By the way, Vols AC, he has a lot of aliases.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: He's Charlotte AC. I haven't seen this guy in a while.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: He's Wolfpack AC. He's Vols AC because his daughter goes there.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: He just showed me a picture. It's they do these
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: like themed bottles of liquor down there every like home
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: game and they name them. This one is real orange
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: versus fake orange. And when you think about it, it
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: is kind of true. Like, what Texas is doing isn't
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: real orange. They just put it in the oven and
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: left it there too long.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I don't really like either one of those colors, but
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: that's just me there. When we come back here on
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the Mac and Bone radio program, can a local team
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: pull off an upset? And if so, who is the
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: team that will do it? Is it South Carolina, Apple
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: for state, wake Louisville, all those matchups we shall discuss
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: on the Mac and Mojo sports radio, 92, seven WFNZ.
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we're definitely locked hot coals and have a lot
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: of scars, you know, and, uh, You have to have
• 35:37
  Speaker 9: thick skin. I mean, it's crazy business and a lot
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: of things happen, but you got to be able to
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: move to the next player the next day or the
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: next opportunity quickly. And I think that's the biggest thing
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: we talked about is how we respond when there is
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: adversity and we have to respond immediately.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: That's Dave Doran. That's the question about NC State. I
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: know even State fans are asking, like, we going.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: To be all right? We going to be all right
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: emotionally for this one?
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: They bounced back from the Virginia butt whooping, but this
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: is different, man. This is one where, like, your coach
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: let you down. Your coaches let you down. Your quarterback
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: let you down. You should have won a big game.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: It's just this one is a different one to bounce
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: back from.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: This is not an X's and O's challenge. It's not
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: a scheme situation. This is a test of how do
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: you psychologically and mentally get your team back. So it
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: has nothing to do with talent-wise, they should win. But
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: how does Dorn get them back on the right track
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: and overcome that? I think they can, but that's what
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: he's dealing with this week.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: And then you get that combined with the fact that, oh,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: this app team looks legit. Like this doesn't look like
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: last year and the team we saw in the second
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: half of the year. They look like they got something,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: especially that quarterback, all those transfer receivers, few get a
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: tight end. And the defense is better. So, like, this
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: is an intriguing game. And all the pressure squarely on
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: NC State. App's already feeling good about themselves. Oh, yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: free hit, man.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: This game doesn't really– I mean, yes, it's a big
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: win for App and State, but they're going to have
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: a good season with their schedule coming up, so they
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: have no pressure here. NC State, if Dorian loses to
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: App at home after week zero and last week, then
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: it's over.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Get the boxes out. Get the boxes out at that point.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Dave Dorn said it himself. You know, he used to
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: coach Bone at smaller schools, right? Came from the MAC,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Northern Illinois. And he was asked about games like this
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: from the group of six teams perspective. He said, it's fun.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: You go shoot your shot and you know it doesn't
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: affect your conference play. You just go take your shot
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: at the big dog. So anyway, let's talk about this,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: and I'll throw App in here. I actually intended to
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: throw Clemson in there, and then I did some research
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: finally this morning and realized, holy crap, Clemson's a one-and-a-half-point favorite,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: because I don't think they should be, y'all. But the
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: three underdogs I want to throw out there is App
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: State against NC State.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Is that a two-touchdown spread? What is that spread, Bones?
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: That's 14. 14. Okay, so two touchdowns. All right.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: You have South Carolina as an underdog at Bama. That
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: is 12 or so? That is 12 and a half.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: And 98% of the money line is on Bama.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Holy.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: And 87% of the 12 and a half line is
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: on Bama.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: Damn. And then you got Wake Forest. They are.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to this one, though. We
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: just did that game. It is right here. That is
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: 12 and a half for what we did.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, shoot.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: We did, didn't we? Oh, crap. Damn. My bad, Lee.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: My bad.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Let me translate here. I did that game. Mac was
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: in his own zone. I was in La La Land.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I was planning on what IPA, what seasonal IPA am.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: I buying today?
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Actually, Mac, some places up to 13 and a half,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: to be honest. Okay, so let's talk straight up winners.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: These are all right around the same point spread.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Can anybody... Do y'all think there's an outright upset in
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: any of these games?
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Not South Carolina. My confidence is shooketh at the moment.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think, based off circumstances, I'm not saying that
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: they can't make it close, but I do think State
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: bounces back because they have to. It's a have-to-have-it program
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: game for NC State. I would say it's in Louisville.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: But the way that Wake competes, they pushed Miami last week.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I would think the best chance of all three would
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: be Wake, because Louisville's coming off their big win at
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: home overall.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: SMU.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Do they have a little bit of a letdown in
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: this game? I think Wake would have the best chance
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: of those three matchups.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: I don't mean to upset at fans. I love y'all.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I'm so happy that the season has started the way
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: it has for y'all. But I believe NC State will
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: be ready, and I believe they'll want to take their
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: anger out on somebody. And I believe that they can
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: pound it with Duke Scott and Davion Gauss. I believe
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: that offensive line is going to have an advantage in
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: this matchup. Lean on the group of 16, Boney. I
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: also think that they can hold up way better against
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: the run. App has struggled to run it this year,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: but their passing game has been ridiculous. I just think
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: in the trenches, State can win. I like what you're
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: saying about Wake, though. And it does sound like Gio
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Lopez is going to play. He has been banged up
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: since the Purdue game, hurt his hip bone. But he
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: still made a bunch of plays last week against Miami
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: to give them a chance in that game. I could
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: see Louisville still thinking about last week and their big
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: win against SMU. I feel like Louisville is going to
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: have to work for this, but I'm going to be honest.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I think Alabama is going to have to work for
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: their win, too. The last two times, you know this, Bone.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: The last two times your Gamecocks have played, they've been
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: lucky to survive.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: They've been lucky to win those games.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I expect South Carolina to be in the game on Saturday.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: How are your stones looking over there, Fitty?
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry? You got an upset pick?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: You do pick any three of these teams to upset
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: or at least hang in the game?
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: I think if I was going to pick one, Mac,
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: I would probably lean South Carolina just because we've seen
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: that program under Beamer in this position before. He always
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: has them ready to go. They're always prepared to bounce back.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: And I also have a lot of questions about what
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: Bama is outside of Keelan Russell. Like him individually, he's fantastic.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: He's tremendous. He's worth every bit of the hype he
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: got in the preseason. And he very well could be
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: a dark horse candidate to win the Heisman Trophy this
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: year with the numbers he's putting up here early on
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: in the year. But, Mac, they gave up 36 points
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: to Florida State.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, 377 pass yards. That's the thing, though. Can
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: sellers take advantage of their pass defense?
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: I would think so because I don't think Ashton Daniels
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: is half the quarterback that Lenores is.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: He did turn it over three times, Daniels. Look at Bone.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Not supposed to be.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I think Bone would rather have Ashton Daniels right now.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: What Lenores is showing up? I mean, that's the note
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: of the whole thing, right? I feel like Bone, he's
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: going to be challenged this week. He's going to hear
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: the chatter, not from.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: You, but from the fans.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I think they're bouncing back. But from that fan base?
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a hell of an
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: effort from South Carolina. I just don't have the guts
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: to pick them to win. They've got to force turnovers.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I hope you guys are right. I watched Keelan Russell
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: turn it over three times in the blink of an
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: eye against Kentucky.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: My confidence is down right now. You are just in
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: the dumps, man.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: I get it.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: I get it. That loss stung more than the average
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: loss last week.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: I get it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: And it wasn't just that they lost. It was deflating
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: because they started out so well, and then they got
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: blown out, essentially. In a game where they were blowing
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: the other team out. That's kind of embarrassing in some ways,
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: is it not? To be dominant that early and it's
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: kind of a foregone conclusion who's going to win by
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: the end.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: And it's the other team. I don't sound like I
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: want to score late. See, I didn't view it that way.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: When y'all went up 16-0 and missed your chances to
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: score more touchdowns and had to kick three field goals,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: I thought, uh-oh. You let Kamario Taylor and that offense
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: hang around, and sure enough, you did.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: But I get what you're saying.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: By the way, Wake fans are showing up today on
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: All four of them.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Wake, oh, my God. They're nasty and vicious today. Trap
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: game for Louisville. My Diggs got a shot. It's NC
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: State for Louisville next week, so it's SMU. Wake this
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: week and then NC State. Although, is Louisville not going
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: to look ahead to NC State? I don't think so. No,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: but they're going to be looking back is, I think,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: the theory. We also had a Wake fan, Fitty, that
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: said they are the best team in the state of
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: North Carolina. And Duke Bone started turning that hat around,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: text him back.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: All I said was we will decide that Duke-Wake issue,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: end of the season, last game of the year, and
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: try to keep it within 17 this year. I'd probably
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: go with that. I respect Jay Dicker. I don't hate
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Wake by any means. I don't know if you know this,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: but I went to high school with Chris Paul back
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: in that area. So I don't hate Wake, but Wake
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Forest fans, let's talk about it a little bit. I
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: would lean Duke, but Wake is... I think Wake's going
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: to win themselves some games this year, too.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: Also, for the ACC's sake, we need Louisville to win
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: this game. You can't have the win you had last
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: week against SMU after that second-half performance against Ole Miss.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: This could very well be the second-best team in the league.
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: They could legitimately go to the playoff. You can't lose
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: at home to Wake Forest. It can't happen.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: No, that would suck for the conference. It would.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: But Louisville last year losing to Cal sucked for the conference.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? SMU losing to Cal sucked
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: for the conference. This is hashtag ACC, boys. I think
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Louisville escapes because I love Louisville and I love their
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: running game.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: But I think it's a fight, man. I really do.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: We come back.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: We talk Panthers. Are we buying any of the talk
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: about the worries this week, the injuries to Coker, XL,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: and Devin Lloyd, and the thought that this is a
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: trap game? Panthers-Browns talk next. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.