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SCAMTRAK w/ Loren Lorosa · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scam, Come rob Fright, scamm.
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  Speaker 2: Come Rob's from Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: What's Poping Congregation? It's your girl.
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  Speaker 2: Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess, back with another installment of
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  Speaker 2: the podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practiced it,
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  Speaker 2: the comedy podcast. I always forget to say that, and
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  Speaker 2: then some people come over here from twenty twenty and
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  Speaker 2: they be confused, like why is she so unprofessional? But
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  Speaker 2: we do talk about scams and they are researched, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to get sued. I need
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  Speaker 2: y'all to donate to my APPU Goatto fund because I
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  Speaker 2: think this might be the year.
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  Speaker 1: But y'all know what am I?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it's been six years of what excitement? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: So today we have a pop culture news correspondent, producer,
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  Speaker 2: act and lifestyle vlogger on the show. She's the mastermind
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  Speaker 2: behind Brown Girl Grinding, a broadcast and media production company.
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  Speaker 2: You might just know her as the senior news producer
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  Speaker 2: at the Hall of Fame radio show The Breakfast Club
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  Speaker 2: on Power one five and this will give it away,
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  Speaker 2: but she is the host of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa,
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  Speaker 2: a podcast on the Black Effect Network. Congregation. Please welcome
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  Speaker 2: an intake member to the church, a Queen Lauren l.
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  Speaker 1: Rosa to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Hi Lauren, Hey, intake member, it's kind of crazy. Hey Terry,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for having men. I come as I am. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you can always come as you are. Okay, scam as
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  Speaker 2: you are, Come as you are. Whatever you need to do,
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  Speaker 2: given all given, all honor to God, passle and Willie Woni.
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  Speaker 1: So how are you, Lauren?
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually this is the first day that I'm feeling normal.
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  Speaker 2: I just covered from my birthday party a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of food poison then yeah, let's gonna date this episode.
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  Speaker 2: But if y'all know, y'all know. But uh, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: feeling good.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm feeling really good. I'm blessed. I have no complaints
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  Speaker 2: and no food poisoning. Girl, And I know you're going
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  Speaker 2: through it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh girl.
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  Speaker 2: And I got it from a bougie place too, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, how dare you? And then my producer
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  Speaker 2: told me I can't say the name because again, see
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  Speaker 2: I told you, I'm running up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting sued all the time. But uh, it's a
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  Speaker 1: bougie place. Are you. You're in New York, right, Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in La So it's like a bougie store
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  Speaker 2: that has like a food bar, and they got me.
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  Speaker 1: They got me with some sober noodles. But it's beat that,
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  Speaker 1: beat that. Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: We live at my job to figure You can't give
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  Speaker 2: me things to like try and put together and figure out,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm gonna start guessing and I'm gonna start like
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  Speaker 2: making calls. Hey where was she at last Friday? Can
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  Speaker 2: we figure it out? Like I just needed another answer,
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  Speaker 2: like I really beat people business.
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  Speaker 1: She'd be producing the news. That was too quick of
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  Speaker 1: a guess. There was another store you could have guess
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  Speaker 1: I used.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, see, okay, now we know we're dealing with
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  Speaker 2: a professional. Move on, because yeah, we're dealing with a professional.
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  Speaker 2: I got the umbrella insurance yet, right, I don't got
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  Speaker 2: the unbrelain insurance yet. Okay, serious, it's not paying for that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I've gotten a few seas and desists and one I
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  Speaker 2: thought was really funny and I post part of it
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  Speaker 2: on my Instagram and I was like, see, I told
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  Speaker 2: you that was gonna sue me. Y'all get the Eyebugatto
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  Speaker 2: fund up. And then the company reached back out to
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  Speaker 2: the network and was like, we thought that we had
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  Speaker 2: a sincere apology and we just saw her on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: joking about it, and my executive producer hit me and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, lady, we need you to take that down. Yeah, girl,
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  Speaker 2: as soon as you said you posted deceasing desists, I said, Oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: she she's she's serious. She's playing no games over here.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious. It wasn't even something I said.
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  Speaker 2: It was some of the guests said. And I was like, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: y'all gonna be mad at me. Just hearing cease and
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  Speaker 2: desists makes me like, all right, let's I don't even
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  Speaker 2: to speak it into existence. No, no, no, no, we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to have any of that. We are gonna persist.
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  Speaker 2: We will never cease. I can't say that other friends
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  Speaker 2: no more because they're man. But I'm sure you can
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  Speaker 2: get some real quick wall Wait. I know we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get into your relationship with scams, but I have to
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  Speaker 2: pull over in a corner for one second and ask you,
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  Speaker 2: did you watch season seven of Love Island. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: watched season seven yet. I actually started season one last night,
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  Speaker 2: but I've been watching girl. You're never gonna get to
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  Speaker 2: season seven. It airs like the eleven o'clock news. I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know, somebody told me, like, you just got to
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  Speaker 2: sit and do a whole weekend of it, and I
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be what I did for July fourth weekend,
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  Speaker 2: but I disconnected that weekend. So I'm gonna do it
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  Speaker 2: this week because I've been following the news and like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with the with Sierra having a getting kicked
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  Speaker 2: off the show and like all that stuff, but without context,
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  Speaker 2: I feel so disconnected to the tribe of Love Island.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been trying to watch it, but it airs
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  Speaker 2: every day except for hump Day, which I thought was cute.
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  Speaker 2: When I saw that in the intro, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: that is so cute. But why you ask me that? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: because I just okay, I feel like some of it
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  Speaker 2: is scammy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I've said this on this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: But reality TV show is a scam and they be
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  Speaker 2: making them people crazy and then they act crazy, and
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  Speaker 2: then we look at them as if they were supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be acting sae like they don't. They sleep deprived them.
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  Speaker 2: They usually apply them with alcohol. But Love Island now
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  Speaker 2: has a rule that you can only have two drinks
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  Speaker 2: a day, and they in the heat, and they don't
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  Speaker 2: have clocks or calendars. Yeah, but the only I used
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  Speaker 2: to work in reality TV, and I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: get what you're saying. But I also feel like you
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  Speaker 2: there long enough, you learn the game, you know what's
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  Speaker 2: going on.
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  Speaker 1: So but by the time it might be too late,
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  Speaker 1: they already got the footage of you acting crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, the first we got through a couch
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  Speaker 2: at somebody, but I didn't know the game. It's twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. We are far away from the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the reality day daye. Y'all know what's going on when
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  Speaker 2: y'all signed up. You know what it was when you
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  Speaker 2: signed up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, that's the thing. Though. I don't think the
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  Speaker 1: children have media literacy anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And we're talking about people that were born in the
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  Speaker 2: two thousands, so I think they don't have that. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they look behind the curtain and know that
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  Speaker 2: this is a production and that they just run like
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  Speaker 2: a television show but it's just unscripted.
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  Speaker 1: But there's people like prompting you.
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  Speaker 2: I think they look at it and think, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: want to go on there and look like those people
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  Speaker 2: and have no idea what there's not and up for.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's some of that, and I also think
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  Speaker 2: social media makes it where even if they knew, they
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  Speaker 2: don't care. They just want to get on, They want
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  Speaker 2: to get lit, they don't and they want to skip
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  Speaker 2: step like they want to get from A to Z
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  Speaker 2: and I look, I'm not not gonna body hustle, do
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  Speaker 2: your thing. But I do think that there is a
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  Speaker 2: sense of delusion, and maybe it's a good delusion for
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  Speaker 2: some people who go on reality TV because it is
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  Speaker 2: an accelerated watch, like it's an accelerated journey. You go
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  Speaker 2: from episode one to episode twenty and now you're in
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  Speaker 2: love with somebody, or now your whole home is made over,
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  Speaker 2: like everything's accelerated. So whoever goes on there, you're a
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  Speaker 2: little delusional to think that like this, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: this could really happen. This could make the rest of
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  Speaker 2: my career and the rest of my life. That's the
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  Speaker 2: social media area the era. Though you go viral one
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  Speaker 2: time and now you you know. Some people it sustains
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  Speaker 2: a full career. Some people you just go viral one time.
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  Speaker 2: I was watching The Girl that Sings It's your Birthday,
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  Speaker 2: it's your birthday girl, you know yo. She gets supposed
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  Speaker 2: to TikTok, saying she she literally couldn't afford her rent
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  Speaker 2: and that song every exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's because of me.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's just because the way that the
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  Speaker 2: Internet moves and reality TV and all these things go
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  Speaker 2: so fast, people don't really necessarily know the business behind it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know her situation fully. I'm actually going to
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  Speaker 2: have her on my podcast, The Latest with Lawrena Rosa,
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  Speaker 2: because I thought that was interesting. But I think that
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  Speaker 2: that that the popcorn culture is what I'm speaking to
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  Speaker 2: of pop culture right now. Pop culture, popular culture, it
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  Speaker 2: makes people, you know, just a little bit. Things move
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  Speaker 2: so fast, so you throw your life away to kind
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  Speaker 2: of just see what happens. And sometimes when it hits
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  Speaker 2: now you got them videos of you acting crazy and
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  Speaker 2: you don't know how to come back from that.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know what to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: So my empathy for reality stars is not fully there
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  Speaker 2: because I do feel like you you signed the dotted
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  Speaker 2: line for this, you signed your life away. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think in this era I have a little less empathy
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  Speaker 2: because we should all know better. Back in the day
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  Speaker 2: when they first started, you know, and like it was
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  Speaker 2: like vh one running it up and you know.
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  Speaker 1: A real world and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Like I have empathy for those people because they plied
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  Speaker 2: them with alcohol, gave them no sleep, and put them
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  Speaker 2: in a house full of strangers, some of them who
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  Speaker 2: were bigoted against them, and like they kind of set
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  Speaker 2: them up to be like wild in the fuck out
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  Speaker 2: and then they back in the day, they didn't get
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  Speaker 2: you no food, so they were really trying to torture
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  Speaker 2: your ass. But yeah, that makes so much sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that is kind of like a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a scam of Like I hope that if
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  Speaker 2: you're listening to the show and you didn't know that
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  Speaker 2: there's so much production that goes behind reality TV, now
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  Speaker 2: you do, so we can give those reality people a
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  Speaker 2: little grace. But I was gonna say too that I
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  Speaker 2: feel bad for this generation because like, I'm so glad
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  Speaker 2: that I grew up with cell phones and all the
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  Speaker 2: technology and everything, but and we're close to the same age.
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  Speaker 2: Like we grew up in the era where we had
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  Speaker 2: all the things, but the internet was still a place
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  Speaker 2: if you wanted it to be. Yeah, you had it
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  Speaker 2: on your phone, but typically you would get on the
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  Speaker 2: computer and it would be a place that you went to.
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  Speaker 2: It was the place that was constantly following you around
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  Speaker 2: via your phone and popping up with messages and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And I can't imagine if, like the videos of us
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  Speaker 2: whil'n out in college or anything that we did for
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  Speaker 2: fun were just permanently on the Internet forever, because everybody
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  Speaker 2: films everything all the time constantly now, and so I
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  Speaker 2: have a little bit of grace for people who do
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  Speaker 2: stupid stuff on the Internet, just because I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the Internet is forever, and y'all seem to not understand
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  Speaker 2: that the Internet is a different place. The Internet is
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  Speaker 2: a wild wild West compared to reality TV. And I
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  Speaker 2: think we are a part of that last generation who
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  Speaker 2: kind of saw both sides, Like a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: were new, like MySpace and viralness and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: On my mind, like all that stuff was still new,
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  Speaker 2: so you could step into a step out of it.
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  Speaker 2: But when I was in college, I was one of
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  Speaker 2: the people that recorded everything. I posted everything, and I
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  Speaker 2: used to have vlog and I remember my mentor and
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  Speaker 2: I news corresponded coming out again. No, seriously, I used
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  Speaker 2: to be so mad because I deleted my YouTube channel.
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: I deleted all videos of us partying Senior Week and
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  Speaker 2: all that stuf because I was told I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: able to get a job. And now I'm like, my
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  Speaker 2: job is literally content. And I was smart enough to
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  Speaker 2: know then not to take the recordings too far. But
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: we were having a good time, and I'm like, dang
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  Speaker 2: if I kept all that content. But it was so new,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really I didn't know that like that would
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  Speaker 2: become a job one day. Like I literally YouTube that
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  Speaker 2: like just started was like a few years fresh when
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  Speaker 2: I was a senior in college.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: So many things have become jobs now that weren't jobs,
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  Speaker 2: like influencing, And I think influencing is a very hard job,
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  Speaker 2: and I think we give them a bad rap.
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of influencers.
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of influencer friends, and they have
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  Speaker 2: to be churning out content constantly. They got to be
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  Speaker 2: having their camera like like what you see is a
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  Speaker 2: snippet that probably took them eight hours, Like you don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much work goes into like giving you that
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  Speaker 2: one minute of content that goes viral or whatever the
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  Speaker 2: case may be. So don't stop calling them people lazy
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  Speaker 2: because them people work very hard.
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  Speaker 1: I have.
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  Speaker 2: I hate having an influence on the side a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: They'd be having me dance my dinner and I'd be like,
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  Speaker 2: I love it. It's just hard the deadlines while life is moving.
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  Speaker 2: He got other stuff. Yeah, the business aspect of it.
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  Speaker 2: I like doing it in the moment with the camera,
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  Speaker 2: but when it's like get my makeup on, do my
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  Speaker 2: head the camera set up, what's going on with the lighting?
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  Speaker 2: Had to fight voices crazy like that was veried by
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  Speaker 2: all the Davis with the walk and it's there. I
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  Speaker 2: felt I gotta get my Kerry Washington lip quiver and
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  Speaker 2: other guys.
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  Speaker 1: I felt it. I felt it to be real.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I just wanted to ask you because I
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  Speaker 2: know you're a pop culture expert and I was curious
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  Speaker 2: on your opinion, and of course you had so much insight,
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  Speaker 2: so I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the listeners do too.
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  Speaker 2: Scal God, but now, Lauren, I have to ask you,
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  Speaker 2: what is your relationship with scams?
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  Speaker 1: You love them, you hate them?
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  Speaker 2: Have ever run any past the statutal limitations that your
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: professor told you to throw away with them?
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  Speaker 1: Blogs? Or it could be anything.
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  Speaker 2: What is my relationship with skims is a crazy question,
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  Speaker 2: because if I ever did do anything, why would I
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  Speaker 2: get on this podcast for Serious XM and tell you
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  Speaker 2: I do not run, have not ever ran, don't plan
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  Speaker 2: to run any scams. But my relations statement that is
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  Speaker 2: a crazy I'm like, what that's the opening people be
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  Speaker 2: on here? Like, girl, yeah, cuz you know three months
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  Speaker 2: ago people do that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, I've learned so many things.
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  Speaker 2: I learned the house servers can like get credit card
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  Speaker 2: points by like taking the customers who pay cash and
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: keeping the cash and running their card for the bill,
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: and like all types of stuff that you can do
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  Speaker 2: out here. Like they're audio voices recorded, no voiceover, no
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  Speaker 2: voice dumping or alteration, and they're on here saying that no, no,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have that little blurry or we don't have
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  Speaker 2: a black curtain. And then they're like I once did, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's bad and you didn't send them any drinks to
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  Speaker 2: their homes or like this is not the reality TV setup,
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  Speaker 2: Like they're not sleepy prived.
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  Speaker 1: They just on here giving you.
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  Speaker 2: That we do make you come to serious extem a
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  Speaker 2: day early and sleep in the windowless room.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, what about people.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy I would never, but no, I've never. I've
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  Speaker 2: never committed a scam. I think the closer you've got
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  Speaker 2: into it is reporting on them, okay. And I've always
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  Speaker 2: been like really interested in like just the stories, the
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  Speaker 2: scam based stories that become pop culture. Like Annadelvi, the
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  Speaker 2: art girl. Yes, I loved her story. She's on scam
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  Speaker 2: rushmore She's yeah. I loved her, And I think I
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  Speaker 2: loved her story because it was very much like her
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  Speaker 2: her audacity.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't even for sale.
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  Speaker 2: You had the auction and bid on on audacity she
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  Speaker 2: was walking around with and then she just was so
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  Speaker 2: fly and so fabulous.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what in the world is happening here.
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  Speaker 2: I loved her too, because she targeted like affluent people
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of money to waste, and she made
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  Speaker 2: them feel broke. Like That's what I loved about it,
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  Speaker 2: Like she would make people feel broke. She would snub
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  Speaker 2: you if she didn't think you were worthy of her
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  Speaker 2: social circle. It's like she did the reverse Luna reverse
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  Speaker 2: on all these people, you know what I mean. It's
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: like Gossip Girl. But if Dan came in, it was
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  Speaker 2: like all of you guys are disgusting. Didn't tell anybody
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: he lived in Brooklyn, which is very expensive, but at
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: the time they were like Brooklyn, we live over here
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  Speaker 2: the ghetto. Like so yes, I don't like she was
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  Speaker 2: the Sex and the City version of skimming.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I like that phrase. Which one would she be on
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Sex and the City. I feel like, maybe some man,
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: is she all four of them? I think yeah, because
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  Speaker 2: I feel like her spirit in her, her spirit, but
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  Speaker 2: her her outfits in her uh like in the series
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  Speaker 2: that they did on her on Netflix or whatever. The
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: way that she just appeared physically kind of reminded me
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: of Carry Bradshaw. I think I don't see any of
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Charlotte in her though.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: No, because Charlotte's all posh and like Upper east Side
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: and she was given.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like they all are kind of fake boots.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: They're not fake. They're all boogie on the show.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: But I could get Carrie.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: I always talk about how she broke remember she no
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: because of the art thing too? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: so that's the Charlotte and is in her? Was the
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: the RT, the you know clock I'm doings.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: It was very much that.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Then the Samantha came in because everything about Anna was
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: like she's infiltrating these circles, she's making them her own.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: You cannot sit with Her'll need it invite the whole time,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: she wasn't even invited. Yeah, and then you know she
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Miranda because she had that business acumen, because she was
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Miranda was the business acumen and the fact that she
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: knew what to do, she knew how to present everything
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: when she you know, she was going after the loan.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: She she made the people believe her as if it
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: was legitimate, as if it was legal right section of
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: the city. But it's just Anadelphi playing everything. I look
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: at it, and I think that's why we were so
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: attracted to her story. That makes sense, Darren Starr, this
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: is your fault. You did this serious, okay, and she
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: was in New York. Oh my gosh, Wow, Lord, you
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: just unlock something crazy. I never even thought of that
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: that way. I love that. Well, we're gonna get into
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: my favorite segment here, historic Hoodwings. I'm glad that you have,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: you know, your journalistic prowess because because today we are
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: talking about Amtrak workers. We're talking about more than one
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: hundred Amtrak workers who ripped off of the train company's
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: health plan and attuned to twelve million dollars in a
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: kickback scheme, taking bribes from cricket doctors who then filed
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: fake insurance claims for four years now. One I have
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: to say shout out to the Amtrak workers. In twenty
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: twenty two there was almost a strike because they, like
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: train workers were getting paid so little. So I'm not
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: going to be ever on the side of Daddy Insurance
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: company unless y'all hurt somebody. I'm kind of rocking with
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: y'all right now, because Daddy Insurance is a scam.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: We know he is.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: He's like, give me money, but if you get too sick,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: we dropping you. Yeah, right, So I don't know, and
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: then people will be like, you know what, but Lacy, like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: that's running up the premiums when people do fraud, And
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, babes, they changed those all the time at
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: the willing Nilly it's windy today, We're to change the
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: premium raising like it doesn't matter. And also, I think
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: that there should be certain things that shouldn't exist when
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: it comes to people's healthcare and they're medical, like we
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be worried about the premiums. We shouldn't be worried
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: about deductible. Like there's so many different things that I
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: think people shouldn't even have to think about when it
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: comes to am I going to be okay?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Am I going to be able to go to the hospital?
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Might be going to be able to use this insurance?
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: And I think if the insurance companies, if they were
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: in the government, were allowed to think like that, Like
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: if everything could just be about community and you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: all the things that insurance isn't per se that we've
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: been trying to get to, people wouldn't have to do
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: these scams like what you're talking about, or they wouldn't
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: feel so okay with it because a lot of times
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: when you talk about corporate scams like that, people normally
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: do that on corporations that they feel like I've been
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: taking from them anyway.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: So it's like this what y'all get.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Exactly at this point, it's a scam scam and the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: scammer like y'all are both scammers, Like it's spy versus spots.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Cops and robbers like y'all are both on.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Like I'm just jumping into something that was already corrupt,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: So I can get mine and not getting take advantage of.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I have a deep sympathy for these types of scams
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: because I don't know many people who, if they have
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: the choice to be paid equitably and live a comfortable life,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: would choose that not choose that over like let me
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: go find some crooked doctors and then drum up a
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: bunch of insurance fraud just to get like a little coin.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: It's one hundred people doing this to the two and
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: the twelve million dollars, so it's not like it's one person.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: This is a whole network.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: And also I want to know how you find a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: cricket doctor, Like how do.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: You go in?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Like you going for a check up? And then they'd
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: be like put the tongue depressed on your tongue be
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: like ah you be like how else can are you? Are?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: You have something prescription notes? Like what do we do?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Like do I bend over and coll and be like,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: oh man, that was sick? Do you ever defraud the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: insurance company? So how do you warm that cobo up?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I think something like that is probably like a you
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: already in that circle of people, so you know, you know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: like they're kind of passing these doctors around at that point,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: because I don't how do you just walk in someone's
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: doctor's office and.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Say, hey, do you go both ways? Essentially that's what.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: You like, I don't know how that works unless your
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: doctor mentioned something to you on the fly about like
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like they're teaching you how to trick
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the system, so you just like, okay, now it's an
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: open conversation. But other than that, I think that's probably
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: like a word of mouth, like a friend had to
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: tell a friend had to tell a friend like, yo,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I got this person over here.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. Come on it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: It's given cousin, Like somebody has a cousin who's a doctor.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: And then they were like at the family reunion, eat
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: a potato salad, and they were like, you know, Amtrak
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: never really checks our prescriptions for real, for real, So
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you know, if you.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Ever want to write a few scripts, get a little
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: kick back, you know what I'm saying. You know what
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It's like an orthopedic surgeon and everyone at Amtrak meets
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: their foot done. Who's like, yep, my foot. I don't
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: know why your voice just sounded like that that cousin.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: His name is probably Eddie or something. Eddie sounded like
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: an uncle Eddie or l Roy. Yeah, he was the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: first to become a doctor in the family. And so
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: all the other shady family members were like, we see
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: you out there, daughter King, We see young blood.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You're doing great.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe now nephew me, nephew, nephew, Oh my god, so nephew, yeah, nephew.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Now you know, me and the boys down at the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: train station. We all had our foot ran over by
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the train, all hundred of us. You can help us out, like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: oh my goodness. So the probe internal Amtrak detectives started
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: probing around when they noticed an unusual billing pattern for
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: employees filing claims with doctors in New York. Oh, shout
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: out to your city.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So there, I just moved here. I got three days. Oh,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you gotta start claiming it. You're in New Yorker.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Now your lips got so tight, Lauren, I swear I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: not trying to set you up.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Lauren thinks I'm the eyes.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on here, but I have
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Umbrella insurance and I don't got nothing to do with nothing.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: She thinks I'm doing one of the FBI probes.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Were like, yeah, everybody, where are we stashing our drugs?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I too love a crack for the I R S.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: We yes, No, I know people who do that, right,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: and shout out to those of you were at my
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: conference from the I R S fun the IRA. What
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I just was making sure that was a very random question,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: but it just I don't know. I feel like every
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: you should always ask that. But we're never gonna snitch. No, no, no,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: no no. But I just want IRS be funded so
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: that they can go after bigger fish because right now
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: they got to go after the middle class because that's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: all they can afford, so they nickling dimindus to hell.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, if we gave.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Them more money, then they could go after the people
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: who are dodging the Texas. Okay, I'm trying to get
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: into them Cayman Island accounts until I get rich enough
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to get one, and then we need to definitely underfund
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: them again. I want I want three people and we
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: work with four posting notes and one cell phone. Go
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: shout out to the alphabet boys. We respect the law
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: over here, y'all. We ain't gonna catch laurd slipping were not.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: So there were three New York health care providers with
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: questionable billings and a high number of Amtrak employees as patients.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: So all Amtrak employees started going to you know, the
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: same three health care providers and was running it up.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: In June twenty twenty.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: One, an undercover agent posed as an Amtrak employee and
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: met with a Long Island City acupuncturist named Punsen Figaroa.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: She told the agent that her name was Susie. So
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: an undercover agent goes to the acupuncturiss because that is
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: covered by some insurance companies. And I love acupuncture, I
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: love cupping, I love Eastern medicine, I love washa.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I'm very into this.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: And if you don't know what acupuncture is, it's like
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Eastern medicine, where like they typically use needles of varying
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: sizes and they'll put them in pressure points all over
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: your body. And it can help with chronic pain. It
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: can help with muscle like tension and aches and things
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: like that and so much more. Fertility helps with that too,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Like you know, like acupuncture, I've never tried and I
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: don't plan to.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love it so much. My last acupuncture.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I think I had it like maybe a month ago,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: and it was a new person that I was going to,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: and he was like describing everything very American to me,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and like his cupping procedure at that place. Because I
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to his main office. I was like, oh,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: so you're gonna put the fire on my back right?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, you know about the you
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: know about the real cupping how my grandma talk way,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and he explained what is cupping? Okay, So cupping is
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: where you get they have these like glass jars that
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: are small, and they put them upside down on your
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: back and then the light of flame and it starts
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to like suck your skin into, like in your muscle
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: into the cup. And then you kind of just lay
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: there with all these cups like on your back and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: your neck and your shoulders, and you'll have these bruises.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I call them very La bruises because you can see
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the girls out here who go to acupuncture, because you'll
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: have a bruise for like four days or somewhere in between,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you know, one of four days. Now, this the cupping
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: that we're looking at right here is the modern cupping
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: where they don't use fire and it's like they put
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the cup on your back and then they use an
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: air pump and they like it up And sorry for
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that sound. This is a wild podcast. Wait so you okay?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: First of all the sound whoa, I'm so Secondly you
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: so you willingly go get these bruises just so your back.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: And feel good. Yes, because it's like this sounds like
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a scam, it's not. This is Eastern medicine.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: A lot of Western medicine is a scam because you
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: ain't getting you a peel for you back, and the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: next thing you know, you're addicted or you got outside.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Of facts, or you can't go to the bathroom.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And sometimes like like I've gone for different things where
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: like it definitely works, like right away, I'm very much
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: in with the good chie out with the bad cheet.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Like my last guy that I went to, he he
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: was so surprised that he was Chinese and he was
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: so surprised. I knew so much about it. By the
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: end of it, Like I left and I was like
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: she she mean, and like it was not weird at all.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: That just mean thank you.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: But we were like really getting into it. But I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: love I love a little Eastern medicine moment.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you clarify what that meant, because I'm like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: we just watched Love I and then we will need
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: no nothing that sound like nothing and nothing to say
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: nothing and people think something else is being said.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Please clarify.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: No, if y'all don't know, yeah, if you don't speak Chinese,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: and y'all try to cancel me, y'all crazy, but yes,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: just here for support. So these Amtrak employees were going
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: to this Long Island. Long Island City is already a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: scam city. Sorry, Long Island City, y'all know what y'all
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: be doing over there. It's we we don't understand it has.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Luckily it hasn't been gentrified yet, but it's it's like,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: what is happening over there? You live in New York now,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you'll never need to go to Long Island City. I've
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: been there a little bit. They have like really good
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: restaurant spots, like drinks and stuff times with hookah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, that's when I went to Long Island City.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I would just we would go for hookah houkah and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: some kind of punch bowl special, something real big with
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: lots of straws, I actually might protake this evening, No seriously,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: like I was already planned before you brought this up.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. I take it back.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Long Island City. Y'all got the best hooks in town.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, and Perry got some good, little shady acupuncturists. But
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: it's plausible for Amtrak employees to want to go to
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: an acupuncturist because sometimes some of it can be physical,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: and so you might have muscle agges or whatever. So
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: that tracks to me. So this undercover agent comes and
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: he's posed as an Amtrak employee. So I guess he
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: was trying to do what we said earlier, like how
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: do you get the acupunctures to start the conversation? Yeah, yeah,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: So I guess he got the cups on. He was like, ooh,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: this is so good. How much is it?
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Ten thousand dollars? Clink.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he was trying to do, but
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the acupuncturer is Punsen Figaroa.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: She must have keeped the game immediately.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like I can tell when somebody's a cop,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: even if they're out of uniform.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: How can you tell? What's your relation to scams?
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: There's a certain energy about them that it's like they
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: are a bit of a scammer. It's like you have
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: this perceived authority over other people because we gave it
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: to you, like you just like us for real, Like okay,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: we just gave you a murder machine in your pocket,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Like you're not different than us. But they walk like
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: they're different. They like they're different, They like they have
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: this air of like authority a lot given Nars. Yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it's given narc for real. Well, Nark is like a
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: little weasel. Nark is like asking you too many questions
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and like jealous. That energy cop energy is always like.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Here I am.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: It's never cool energy either. It's not like oh they
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: got swag. It's just like here I am.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: So Bunsen figured people game and said that, So the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: agent her name was Susie.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my name is Susie. I love it so su okay,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And Susie was a scammer.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: So Susie told the agent to sign his name about
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: thirty times for services received and Amtrak's healthcare plan, indicating
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: that the undercover agent had visited providers at least seven
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: times that may receiving acupuncture and physical therapy.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: That was a lie. Just I love you just put
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: in here Mary voice. That was a lie. That was
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: a lot and the light detector determined. So, Susie, you
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: kind of messed up.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: You gave a fake name, but then you did the
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: crime with him, like you were just you just trusted
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: him implicitly and we're like, oh, yeah, you're Amtrak employee,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: so sign here and here and then you're here date
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: there and here and here. Okay, flip the page yep,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: right there in the highlight the section like and basically
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: made up all these appointments that he had never had
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: because this was his first time visiting the acupucturers.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Do we think this is a good scam so far?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Like just how it's orchestrated, the just we're just talking,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: don't I don't think? So you let me know because
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: you you mean you do this logistically? Like yeah, I
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: feel like logistically is too many, like all of the
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: steps something's bound to fall, and all the steps it
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: takes you too long to get to, like we're here,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: we're locked in and now we're doing the thing. I
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: also think that Susie aka Punson is way too trusting
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: when you're doing crime like I've never seen, like at
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: least in crime television shows and movies or even in
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the scams that I've researched. Like the good scammers don't
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: just let you into the rift. They're not like, oh, welcome, okay,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: sign up here for this crime right here. It's normally
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a circle or a network of things. You gotta get
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: recommended by another criminal. You know, you gotta get jumped
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: into the organization. You don't get to just walk in
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: and be like I would like to be a part.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Of the crime. They don't do that real like, we
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: gotta go to it. And that's what I'm saying.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: This is, this doesn't make this is This is already
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: messing up because it's too many, like come on over,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: come hang out with us.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Hey, come out a drain, like we don't know you.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, my vetting system for my personal life
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: has gotten so much more strict, honey. We are strict
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: over here now because I let a few crazy people
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: in and I had to get them exiled. Like it's
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you gotta be strict when you too nice, the people,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the weirdos creep in and it be too late by
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the time you realize they oh weirdo.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: It's too late m hm. So you know, like you
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: gotta be strict.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And that's that's a note out there for all of
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: you in your lives, like you are the prize, Okay,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: don't be giving the prize away for free vet the vet.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Anybody trying to get near the precious jewels, Okay, they
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: gotta have security clearance to get around you.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Because people are weird.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: You do comedy, life lessons, scam alerts, you open to
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: with a God, and basically a prayer.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: All of that happens every episode here.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, girl, and I'm so glad you acknowledged that because
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I really am trying to start my church, and you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna need that snippet from what I'm legitimately, I
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: don't know if you can start a church and be
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: honest with you, My famiise is called the congregation. Okay,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: see Opie, the way that people feel about church being
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: a scam and your your relativeness to I'm still trying
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: to figure out what is your relationship with scams and
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: all that, and then you want to start go start
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: a church and if people can't really answer that question,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I think you should lead the church. That's why my
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: church is amazing, because you already know what you're getting. Okay,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I will pull up in a Rolls Roys, but I
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: will also get back to the community.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: You're gonna lock the doors for twenty dollars too.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, you know what he was so
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: wrong for that auction off blessings like that?
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: How you're gonna not let us leave Eddy?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: He from my state to Texas, we have the Texas
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: has I believe. I'm gonna say it and then I'm
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: gonna research it because you can't actually quantify this. But
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like we have the most scam churches in
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: the continental US, Like we have a lot of scam churches,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: like megachurches, like they branch off, like they like, you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: franchises of Popeyes. And it's just a mess. It's a mess,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: even the tiny church I went to. If you read
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: my book, you'll find out how it turned out to
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: be a scam. But yes, so it's we love a
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: scam in the church. But I'm telling you the truth, Lauren,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Like when you come and you know what you're getting,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: and we're also gonna help the community and we're gonna
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: do good things.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: But am. I here's what I'll do.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I won't steal money from the congregation, because I feel
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: like that's wrong. I will give that money to community
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and redispers it to people in need in the church.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: But I will pay myself through my other businesses. It's
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: just so I can get the you know what I mean,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: get my salary going through my company and then I
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: don't have to.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Make it sound like a megachurch pastor go ahead, girl,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Oh no, But.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: They still they steal it from the congregation.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Always find an LLC to pay something. I don't know.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Some of them are are shepherds of the Lord. Okay, yeah,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: not all of them.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Baby the way did they find an LLC or offshore
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: a something a foundation that pay us something or something
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: or something. All I'm gonna do is take my performance
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: money like the acting that the shows, the books, the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: things that I do, the podcast and stuff, and just
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: funnel it through the church so then I don't have
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: to pay taxes on it. But I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: let the church had a money again. Guys, I'm just
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: here as a listener and a participant of the podcast.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I have nothing to do with the formation of this business.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Nor this enterprise.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: God is good.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Amen, Yo, just remind me when I start my church
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: to pull this from the internet, because y'all ain't about
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to have me like young thug in the court playing
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: my bars at me. It is sounding like a very
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: blessed Rico, and I don't want no parts.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Very blessed freco. Amen. I love that.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: No, no, no that no a do amen, very blessed Rico.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: You heard it here first from Laura, very blessed. The
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: way she looked at me. She jumped to the screen.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, b run so back to the agent.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: The agent visited Susie's office one more time in July.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: This time she handed him an envelope filled with one
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. After that, she continued to use the undercover
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: agent's personal and insurance information to submit dozens of fraudulent
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: claims to the Amtrak health care plan. So she broke
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: him off a stack. She's definitely getting way.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: More than that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: So Susie is the one probably really coming up here.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: These people are getting like a thousand dollars. So Susie
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: conspired with dozens of Amtrak employees and paid hundreds of
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: thousands of dollars in cash kickbacks. Okay, Susie, you are
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: an ethical scammer. You you gave them their kickbags and
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: they got their coin. Gotta pay you people.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: You gotta pay your people because otherwise they gonna snitch
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: on you. Okay, you do.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: So they one hundreds thousands of dollars and kick back
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: to Amtrak employees over the course of this scheme, which
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: ran from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty two, so we're
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: looking at five years. In total, she costs Amtrak nine
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: million dollars in false and fraudulent claims a queen nine million.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: You made nine million and you didn't have to like.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Pump nobody or prick nobody. I know that's right.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: See, you should have left the country after like five
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I think I would have slid it, Like maybe I
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: would have pushed it in with six million, But I
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: think after you say that, until you feel how easily
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: that money is coming, I think that's where most scammers
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: go wrong. And people who have these like elaborate like
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: enterprise schemes, it's like it's always there's never a cutoff
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: because it becomes so easy.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: You become so like untouchable. A bit that some money.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Just flowing, everybody's happy, and then it all falls down.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I just feel like if since hadn't gone to eight million,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: probably she could have slid, like like you could have
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: stop the seven and then left left Long Island City,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: you know, move somewhere else. I don't know people getting
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: ran down on to this day with the PPP loans
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: ten five thousand dollars, so they coming after you for him,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: And that's some BS to me, because y'all want to
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: run down on everyday Americans who pretended that they had
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: a farm in Idaho because of going broke and couldn't work,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: but they or retail business. But then what about like
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: y'all want to put Blue from Pretty Ricky up in
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the jail house. But then y'all let Chloe Kardashian have
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: her loans be forgiven, like she.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Could have made them.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: People like people were just trying to Like, now, Blue
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: did do some egregious stuff with the money. He bought
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: some cars and stuff. But I'm like, if we were
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: just trying to pay bills and you saw this as
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to get a little coin, I'm not that
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: mad at it. But they're forgiving huge PPP loans. You're right,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and they're coming after people who took five thousand dollars
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: because they want free labor into prison. We know, yes,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: it ain't letting that to five the two, the three,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: four to five million slip. I mean, they might not
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: have caught it, like it took them till nine million
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: to realize something.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: What's up.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling like if I feel like if everybody had
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: just stopped around four mil and been like, you know what,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I hope you put your money in some you know,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you got an IRA, you got some college funds for
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: your kids, quit amtrak, move to another state, get on
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: the amtrak the next time you work there, and just
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: ride it away, and.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: You know, and maybe they would have made it. I
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I just I just for me, It's like I get
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: the excitement, the thrill and like the I'm gonna take
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: back what was taking from me and my people of
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: the skimming, But the end of it, I'm just I'm
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: always feel like you're never gonna get you, never get
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: away with this and just go live a happy, peaceful
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: life like it's twenty twenty five.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: The internet is too badt sour technology is too bad.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: People are.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And we don't know who they are because they're getting
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: away with it. Who there's some skimmers I'll never meet.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: And I think about that and I get said. I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: stare out the window as the range pours down the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: window pane, slowly having me and saying, yeah, I think.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: About the start for you.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: This connects not being taken out podcast, this connection with
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: this scam stuff like.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: What is the like how why? Well?
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: If you read my book, I won't spoil the binding,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: but it started when I was five. What's the name
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: of the book, Scam Goddess, and we keep the brand strong.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: The television show on Hulu is also Scam Goddess. You know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to forget, you know, just go.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: You know one name you gotta remember, scam gottis Church. Hallelujah, Amen,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: It'll all be Goddess is already in the title Church. No.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I was just fascinated with, like I guess at an
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: early age, I learned how to like get what I
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: wanted from people, but it was things that I like needed,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Like I basically got abandoned at school when there was
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: no school when I was five, and so I spent
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the whole day like scamming basically like scamming my way
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: in and hanging out with a family and presenting. I
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: was with them until you know that that shook down
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: and like it was just the whole day was like that.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: And then when I was eventually found, I scammed my
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: way into a dessert that I wanted for dinner. You know,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Oh you ain't get a beaten no no, no no,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: because they left me there. But you can read about
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: it in my book. But and you've probably heard it
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: on this podcast, your earlier enough listener. But yeah, I
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: just have always had a fascination with confidence, artists and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: people who saw rules and decided that they had no
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: hand in creating them to why should they follow them?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Like we're all just people. Everything made up? So and
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I remember when I learned everything made up. It was
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: from my cousin. He was grading papers. He was a
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: teacher at the time in a New York City school
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: and I was reading some of the names and I
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: was like, Jarvavi, who name my baby it is? And
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: my cousin looked me dead in my face and he
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: was like, every name is made up? And I was like, oo,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the white supremacy had jumped into me, and I was like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: get out of me, devil.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: So you know what I mean.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: It's like we can make our own rules. And like
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: if I want to go to a place and I
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: feel like I should belong there, if I walk in
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: with the right outfit on and act like it's the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: most ghetto shit that I've ever seen in my life,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: no one questions me. They don't even look at my credentials.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Because now when I walk into places that I should
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: be and no one questions me and looks at my
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: credentials because I look like I'm like I should be here.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: So so I.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Say that I think, I think that that's that's the
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not scammering. But that's a dreamer lifestyle too. It's
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: just like, oh no, this is mine. I'm supposed to
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: be here, and you just fake it to make it,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: even if it's just mentality exactly.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: And honestly, is it faking it if you were always it? No,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: it's not. If you were that girl.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to be that girls. And these are things
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: that they would hear in the church, in your church exactly.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Okay. See see, so we will be preaching. We will
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: be preaching.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Sometimes won't be there, but you will be. I feel
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: like you'll show up for one service to see what
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: it's given.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I might click a YouTube link.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, So nine million dollars racked up by Susie.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: They ran the train on the train. Okay.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm we're gonna figure out what my producer just
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: means by that because I'm a little scared. So inside Amtrak,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: two of the scam ring leaders were former employees Divon Bert.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Oh no, not Devon Crazy, because we know that's one
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: of us.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I was about to say, tell people white said that
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: day day, Oh my god, day day, Oh my god.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I ain't never met a white day day. Okay. So
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Devon Bert of Bluebell, Pennsylvania and Hallam Gelzer of East Orange,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: New Jersey, Okay, that may not be us. They they
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: were responsible for recruiting Amtrak employees to participate in this scheme,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: so they were running the scam train on the train.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: They would be working and be like, hey, bro, like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: don't don't you back hurt? Like don't you want don't
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: you want to make a thousand dollars?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Like love it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: They admitted that they threatened to injure a healthcare provider
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: unless Hallam was paid a cut of thousands of dollars,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: like a true classic mob shakedown. Oh man, now, threats
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: of bodily harm. I'm still on y'all side a little bit.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Walk with me, Lauren, walk with me here. I thought
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: you're about to be like, no, that's too far. I'm walking.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead, I'm slow walking. I'm a little
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: behind you. I'm trying to see the scene. So when
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the Montgomery buscott, bus boycotts happened and black people stopped
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: riding the bus because we were trying to end segregation
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: and you know, not sitting in the back of the bus,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the rows, the parks of it, all right, and there
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: was a bus boycott, this boycott. First of all, we
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: don't know how to do boycotts. Now, y'all girls, be like,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: we boycott Amazon from the first to the third. What
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: cads do not have an end date? You can't tell
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the people you're boycotting day. J'all gonna come back in
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: three days. That's not how boycotts work. You gotta keep
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: boycotting until they do what you want. And you gotta
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: have demands. You can't just be like we're gonna hurt
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: them like, what do you want from them? Hello, we
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: really need our civil rights leaders back because the girls
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: are out here just flailing, but Ally's trying and we
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: gotta we gotta get.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: On the side because we need help.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: And so the boycotts that they had, in the bus boycotts,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: there were people, there were black people trying to get
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: on those buses, and the.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Panthers, the black panthers would like snatch them off the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: bus and be the yes, you thought everybody complied.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't think everybody complied, but I just didn't
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: hear this, this this part. No, we don't talk about
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: this part in history. It's documented. But just like in
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: today's culture, we have some people who can't be saved.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: And in our cultures, in everybody's culture, you know what
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I mean. White culture, y'all got y'all's magas, and black
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: culture we got our our abuser supporters and all.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Types of people.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: We all have our we all have our bad people,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: because like a race does not inherently make you good.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: So there were a lot of people who were like
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: trying to get on that bus so they could get
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: out of the heat, and they went straight to the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: back to get to their job, and the Panthers would
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: jump on that bus and.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Grab them and be like, we are boy, what do
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: you do with sofa?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I do think you need some sort of There has
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: to be some sort of I don't even know what
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: you call it, but I guess the best way to
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: put it is for every Martin Luther king, you do
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: need a Malcolm X. Yes, perfect, That's how I feel.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: People will argue different, but I do feel that I
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: can understand that. So an acupuncturist, a podiatrist, and a
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: penis enhancement doc walk into a bar. In addition to Susie,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: they also worked with a New Jersey doctor, Mohammed Mazira,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: who made more than a million dollars from the scheme.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: So this is Massira's aesthetics. He did botox, jumaderm he
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: did Oh, he did all the things, okay, and he
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: looks very upstanding, doctor ish.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: But it's something about the way he's looking at me
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: that's like.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do a little crime, just like a little
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: like his forehead is full of secrets.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I see it, I see it. Yeah it looks too
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: oh yes, very much.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Full of secrets was futilized for him full of secrets
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: and mis spot. No, he probably a Leo. It is giving,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: it's giving Leo, and he never thought he was gonna
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: get caught. He has the assurance of somebody who's done
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: crime before and just does not get caught.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: And he got newspaper ads. And I'm looking at his.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Charges for the juventer and the botox, and like, I'm
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: thinking about what it costs?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Are these good numbers? I've never done any of this stuff.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I feel like his box units are a little high,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: but the juveniter it depends because he got his face
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: over what how many units you're gonna get?
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Which is wild, okay, But the prices look pretty comfortable.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: They don't look they don't look too bad. So before
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: this grift, oh my gosh, we were right. We were right.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Before this grift, Massira had sued Yelp over bad reviews
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: and had his New Jersey medical license suspended for botched
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: breasts and penis enhancement surgeries. I knew this wasn't his
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: first game. I knew the trains were not the first scamp.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: How do you botch a penis? I don't think you're
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: supposed to be operating on a penis?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: How do you come back from that because batch boobs?
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I know some people go they wait, they go back
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: and then they restructured them.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Or they take that implant out and they put a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: better one in ya. How do you how do you
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: fix a botched penis? I don't know what you gotta
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: do to it? I don't I don't know.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: You might have to have an external device to work
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: it again or something. I'm not exactly God, But also
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: like so much today as much as penis havers who
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: love their penises love penises, I'm surprised y'a would take
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: the penis under a knife like that just feels that's scary.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you should be doing that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just keep thinking of a
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: chewed up tipsier roll. But let's go forward.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Not that visual, no, I mean it might be ribbed.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: No no no, no, no no no no no.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Y'all didn't hear that. Y'all didn't hear me say that.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: The last crooked was a New York pediatrist named Michael
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: de Nicola, who later pled guilty to conspiracy to commit
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: health care fraud, distribution of a controlled substance, and a
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: lawful possession of a firearm and is awaiting sentencing. He
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: paid one Amtrak employee on oxy codon prescriptions instead of cash,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: so he was trying, so doctor de Nicola, he was
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: trying to keep even more money by being like, Okay,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I can give you a thousand dollars, or I can
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: give you a script for oxy which is a highly
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: controlled substance which is extremely addictive. And of course we
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: know you do those almos for the girls outside. Oh no, no, no,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: don't say it like that. Oh no, I say it
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: like you, like you know person, like you be doing it.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Lauren Lauren is over here really doing
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: She's not, she's not stepping on no mind, she said,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: pip it up. Laura la Rosa says she knows what
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: oxy is. How does she knows? She said she really knew. No,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, the day's of the internet right now.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You can't say anything out of context. You gott to
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: whip it up real quick so it can't clip it together.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: So let's look at some of the We're gonna backtrack
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: for a second to look at doctor Misira's Yelp reviews.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I just want to see a couple of negative ones,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: because what were they saying about this man?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Did he go? I would love to hear from one
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: of the batch penises.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: One star reviews when you're a doctor is crazy. Okay,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: So so.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I wish I've read this before I saw the doctor.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Don't you read? I think I re review reviews.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I've never been to a cadismetic surgery doctor, but I
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: would read a review first.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, you're not gonna be cut.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: First of all, I take personal recommendations from people whose
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: work that I've seen. I'm not rolling up here on
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: some yelp shit like so you could cut open my body?
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: That's wild.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: So this one says, I wish I read this before
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: I saw the doctor. He has a bag of pre filled,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: unlabeled syringes that he whips out and with the sleight
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: of hand, he starts stabbing with the needle. No prep,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: and bam, they shoe you out. No instructions, no aftercare,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: no advice. Most professional healthcare providers know that you can
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: you insert a needle at an angle, not straight like
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: a dartboard. No just in there sticking y'all. First time
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: in my life that thirty units of botox made no
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: difference on my forehead and in between my eyebrows. What
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: a waste of money. I agree, buyer beware, and groupon
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: should not be having these ads available.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, please do not do groupon for your.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Face now, says We started off this episode and I
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: was telling you I don't feel bad for people who
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: sign up for the BS. Yeah, if you find your
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: cosmetic doctor on Groupon and you don't re reviews on
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: top of that, it's you you have.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: You have empathy for these people.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody wants to look the way they want
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: to look. And we don't know what these people use
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: their faces for or why they need botox and why
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: they you know, maybe they can't afford it so they
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: need to get a little cheaper mersion.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: We don't know what they use their faces for. We don't.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: We don't know what they use their boobs or their
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: faces for.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's people out here doing sex work and stuff
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: and they might get a boosting, you know, membership if
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: they got a new titty or you know, a smoother face.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: So we don't and it's not just sex working, know
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: these models. We don't know what you're using it for,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: so you might be in a pinch and you might
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: really need it, or you get more tips at the
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: place that you work at. We don't know, but I
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: will say it's not good judgment because it's just your
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: faces forever. It's the only when you get I mean,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: unless you do plastic surgery. But if you botch it,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: then you can't go back to the original. They don't
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: have no redo on the face. You can't get back
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: to what you lost. So it's a real big risk.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: But also I'm of the mind that this man is.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Like one step up from those people who did bbls
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: with like weird fillers in the basement. He was like,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: it's amazing I could get an office. Allegedly, I'm gonna
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: get off because how are you getting Like anytime I've
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: gotten botox or even a little juvenile it comes from
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: like a syringe, not a syringe. It comes from a
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: bottle that is sealed and then they use the syringe.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: They it's not it's not that you just grab a
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: syringe out of a bag.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Are you reusing this? Where's your bio hazard? Like trash can?
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: What's going on.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I've never done that any of that, but if if
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: and when I do, I would just I'm going to
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: research before I go heavily, research before I know all
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: about it. Okay, yeah, well, well I don't like I
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: got a lot of sympathy for the scams and stuff
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: You might send me somewhere that I don't know.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: It's not trying to send you who the scaurs and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: people get back at the system, that something something something.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I want to go where the system is, whoever is
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: with the system, wherever they go, send me there. See
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: you got so you gotta be confused, Lauren, because I'm
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: not I'm not trying to get people to do this scam.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: I'm warning people about scams.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody who's listening to us right now, they now know
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: some new stuff.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: That's what we're doing overund here.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna send you into the scam fire the scams again.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I just didn't you know. There's the empathy. I'm like, girl,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: my forehead.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Is on the line here.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I don't need empathy. I need to go where the
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: people that know be going. My empathy is with the
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: people who went there, because you asked me, like, why
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: would these people do this? My empathy is with the victims.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: My empathy is not with this scammer. I want him
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: packed up, locked up. They needed to close the doors
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: on this, uh syringe and a bag special like that's
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: very weird and bad. Yeah, because now I'm looking like
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: a chewed up to you're on the foe head. It's
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: because I trusted my girl, scam goddess, you know.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: No, No, this is where I have to act like you.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: That would never happen because I would never recommend any
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: thing that would be illegal or harmful to you.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we got ads on this show, Lauren. Listen,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just here.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I'm a will and participant here, well, not in any
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: enterprises though still clarified.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I've been in court for the last two months.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: This the word skim is making me like, oh yeah,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: oh yeah for Diddy, not because I did anything.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: We didn't do anything. No, they don't know. They might not.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: I know, I know you didn't mean for that to
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: sound the way it sounded when it came out, but
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: it did. Oh wait it not for him? Like there,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Let me get back.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: To the reviews. This one is pretty long. What is
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: this one saying here?
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna clip into this one because it's
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: very long. I show up and wait close to two
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: hours after arriving promptly for my appointment, I finally meet
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: with doctor Mazara and he has all the fillers and
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: syringe just laid out on a folding chair, who not
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: in their respective boxes displayed neatly or even packed away
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: nicely in a travel case. Considering this isn't a personal
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: his personal office. No no syringers, oh, considering that this
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: is his personal office. No, no syranges on a folding chair,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: not even an office whivelchair.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: My guy, you got them on the fold out?
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Or like the little table that they school out
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: when they come like the little young Yeah, yeah, a
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: little strait thing like baby. Not I'm going to the cookout.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm also getting syringes like you gotta fold a chair.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: This is a spade table chair like No, so it says,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: not samples, not empty dummy syringes. These are real syringes
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: that he's about to inject into your face. Little did
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I realize this until he picked up a syringe of
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: what I think is botox off the folding chair and
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: proceeded to just fill my forehead.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even sitting down. I don't know did she did?
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: She let him touch her.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: That is the real question, because this is exactly why
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I don't feel bad for the.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: People getting skinned. Let me tell me, you tell me
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: she went home.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: You getting a medical procedure while you standing up is crazy.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: That's like if I went to get my eyebrows done
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: and they was like, yeah, just stand right here, and
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: they just start plucking on, like what are you doing?
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Imagine get your lash is done? And then they're like,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: all right, stand up, quiet, squat is wild? Oh yeah,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: And the last text also need to be stopped because
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: that's not y'all out here making these ladies eyes red
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and burning them with glue, like, and then they got
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: the nerve to posting on your Instagram like it look good.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Y'all got these ladies looking like snuffle up aguins with
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: thank god.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: That's wrong. That's wrong.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: My last girl, I love a good last year though. Man,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I'm low right now, go get my name. My last
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: girl be doing me good. The most of the ones
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: you're talking about, though, where you gotta like you are
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: you're peeling last years out your faith for two days
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: because it hurts this this woman right here, did she
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: stay and get this botox or whatever she was getting
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: while she was standing. So this person says, I wasn't
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: even sitting down, and we really didn't go over concerns
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: prior to anything. He just made me stand up. He
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: injected my forehead and that was it. Of course he
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: tried to sell me other fillers. But now my guard
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: was up. It needs to be. You need to be running.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean guard exactly.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Listen, it needs to be up.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Now you hear now you hearing me? Why would you
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: allow us being to poke your face? There was no
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: red flag before any of this with folding chair needles.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: I feel like the first red flag was the folding
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: chair needles.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: And I would hate to see this person's dating life.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I know she.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Bars, and hell like she six she unless she paying dams,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: she ain't going to six flags.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, she's lucky. She go to the Dollar theater. No,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I mean because they got all the flags and she
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: ain't ignoring. Oh yeah, the six flags. She ain't go
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: see none of them.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, she walked over kind candy and that's it. So
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: obviously the guards are up. I think we already said
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: the guards should have been. We'll pass that upon leaving,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I tried to inquire about other fillers, and he was
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: extremely rude, dismissive, condescending and literally rolled his eyes countless
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: times as if he just couldn't be bothered. I left, Okay,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: why are you asking about other fillers? You just got
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: jabbed while you were standing up and complained the whole
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: time and get hit babes.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: They don't do that. Walgreens for free flu shots, so
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: they let you sit down and you.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Got Actually and sometimes if you because I remember when
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: it was in the COVID shots, you might sit down on.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: A phone and chair, so he had the chair for you.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: He doesn't offer you to see.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was too busy holding all other syringes. Let's
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: get to the bottom of this. So flashmob insurance scammers
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: in the Northeast region, specifically the one to nineteen Amtrak
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: scammers who sold their insurance info were mostly located on
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: the New York to DC routes. Specifically, they were based
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, Delaware, New Jersey, New York, Maryland, Connecticut, and Washington, DC.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: So that makes sense to me, is why they can
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: catch this as fast the nine million because this is
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: across different state lines, so they had to probably start
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: doing the math. Here's a quote from Amtrak's Inspector General,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Kevin H.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Winters. He says, the sheer volume of employees who cavalierly
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: participated in this scheme to steal Amtrak's funds suggests not
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: only as serious lapse in basic ethics, but troubling workforce culture,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: at least in the Northeast region, which is a blatant
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: criminal behavior somehow normalized. And look at this guy, Mitch,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: fuck you. I hate this.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Man and I don't even need to know him cuz, oh,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: what a lapse in basic ethicsaling from Amtrak? Amtrak, are
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: you paying your workers a livable wage? Are you paying
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: them enough money that they don't want to lose their job?
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Because if you pay people enough money that they don't
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: want to lose their job, they most likely won't engage
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: in fraud because the job is too good, you know
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Like what's worth the risk?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Like me doing the shady scheme and losing my benefits,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: my pension and all my good money coming in and
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: my kids having you know, food and health care and
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: you know, a decent living. We can go on vacation
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: at least once or twice.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: A year.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: It is a good job. You're not risking your good
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: job for a scheme. Y'all was over there tricking my head.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I have friends that work for Amtrack. They don't work
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: there anymore, though.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they don't. Yeah, they don't.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Nobody's I've never heard anybody be like Amtrak such a
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: great job, they so good to us, Like, no one
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: has ever said that ever.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's a location thing.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I'm from Delaware, so the friends that were working there
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: were from Delaware as well too. It's a lot of
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Amtrak workers. I think it depends on where you are
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: in Amtrac to do, you know, depend on what you do.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: But it's a lot to get to, like the good
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: paying jobs. And you know they have like these unions
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: and things like that. But yeah, that's a whole other
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: conversation because I think unions in those conversations too, can
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: be a that could be a topic for you as well, girl,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: because they they get into something. I know, I'm on
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I'm pro union. Know I'm in a union and I
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: love it. Well.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: You on the talent side, so it worked well for you, yes,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: other sides, I guess a little dicey.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: So some of the workers even handed over their kids
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: insurance information.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Not you put the baby in in now given the baby.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: The baby getting acupuncture be serious. Given the recent trend
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: of rail accidents, Amtrak workers might actually want to have
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: access to their healthcare plan coverage for real. Like we've
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: had railroads longer than we've had most travel. Like we
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: ain't got the railroad right yet, So workers still.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: On the job.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Susie, the Long Island City acupuncturist, was sentenced to thirty
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: four months in prison for fraud in order to pay
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: back the nine million. Now y'all know, SUSI ain't got it.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: I don't even know why y'all playing with her like that.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Devon or this could be Devin and maybe I read
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: it with an accent.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: No, it's Devon. It's Devon, And how did you think
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: it should be one of us too?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Exactly so, the Amtrak ring leaders pled guilty to conspiracy
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: to commit health care fraud and conspiracy to communicate extortion threats.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: As a part of the plea agreement, Devon agreed to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: pay back nearly a million dollars. Hallam agreed to pay
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: back about one point sixty six million. Twelve more American
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Amtrak employees are facing criminal charges. Seven of them have
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: already pled guilty and are waiting sentencing. Twenty eight other
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: employees relied, I'm sorry, retired or resigned in the disgrace
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: because of the investigation, and another thirty left the company
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: for other.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Reasons around the time. That everybody need this.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: But sixty one of the scammers still work at Amtrak,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: which is partly taxpayer funded, by the way, So I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: say the sixty one employees was still work there, we
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: clearly we need them, Like y'all see all these crashes,
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  Speaker 2: and they got like what a stack from this scheme.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't making the hundreds of thousands of dollars that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: the ring leaders were making, Like, come on, do you
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  Speaker 2: want to work on the train? I do think there's
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  Speaker 2: something to what you were saying earlier when you were like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't even know if it's a thing
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  Speaker 2: of value your job versus do I commit a crime.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a thing of like inside of working
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  Speaker 2: for the business, but also to whatever is happening outside
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  Speaker 2: in the world, like right now, people that are hurting
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  Speaker 2: so bad because how expensive things are, even if you
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  Speaker 2: have a well paying job, if it's the choice between
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I can overly feed my family and be comfortable and
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  Speaker 2: just think through life because I'm not stressed about money,
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  Speaker 2: You're probably gonna choose that. So if one thing gets
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: you to that, you might take the risk and risk
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: and do it. So, you know, my empathy comes in
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit there because I can get that, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, people doing what they got to
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  Speaker 2: do to get by. Yeah, and everybody is squeezing. It's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: harder and harder and harder. I remember when you used
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  Speaker 2: to buy a cell phone. I won't say any brand
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: you used to buy a cell phone, it would be
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: the cell phone. It would be the charging court, the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: block the charging corp goes into, and some headphones. Now
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: you buy a cell phone, it's just a phone and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: maybe a cord. Like they're squeezing us everything. They're nickeling
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: diamond us to death. And insurance companies have a great
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: branding way of nickeling diming you to death because they
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: branded everything. So it's like you got a deductible. What
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: does that really mean. It means you paid all this
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: money into this system. But since you actually need to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: use the system, we gonna need a little more money
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: from you because we're greedy. You got premium, but you
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: can't afford to really pay per month, right, Like it's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: kind of like a classism economically, just put you in
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: a bad position because if you're a person who really
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: doesn't have the money anyway, and you're having to force
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: yourself to pay for insurance because you need it, you're
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: not gonna get the lowest deductible. You're trying to just
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: afford that monthly payment or whatever you got to do
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: for those insurances exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And now you put in a position.
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  Speaker 2: Companies that advertise we have health benefits, It's like, no,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: you're basically are saying your livelihood is attached to you
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: being employed.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: You like it, but that's that's that's the real world. Yeah.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: But it's like if you branded like health benefits versus
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: like live to work, work to live, then one sounds better.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: It's like, listen, health benefits or die if you don't
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: get to the desk. I understand you more. Now it's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: more like a radicalist view. It's like the people versus
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: the capitalists.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And it's it's so funny how we call it
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: radical because we've normalized what's actually radical is how we're
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: being pinched and squeezed and stolen from every single.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Day of our lives. Like being alive costs so much money.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: I can't go outside my house without spending at least
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: twenty dollars to two hundred air. Ain't fine to say
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: where you going for twenty dollars because I feel like
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: every time I walk out, I spend one hundred to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: two hundred. Yep, the one hundred is a new twenty
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: a twenty. Don't give what it used to give to
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: get things outside? Calls at least one fifty. Guys, It's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: like you're spending like seven dollars for your car up.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh yes, seventy seventy five. And don't be
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: in California. You can creep into a hundred depending on
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: what neighborhood you're in and what kind of car you drive.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Easy, So y'all eat, don't not eat before you leave
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: your house.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Ooh you most from outside? Oh that's gonna run you
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: at least sixty seven dollars. And that's for yo meal. Okay, yeah,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: and oh you want to drink with it?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Okay? Now, were pushing eighty nine, so you better get
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the water in the tap.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, when they say sparkle, still a tap, everybody
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: just screws tap. I go get it myself. Where y'all
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: sin cat? I aren't got mine from the bathroom. You
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: can't play. But oh my goodness, Lauren, this was such
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: a blast. It's so nice to meet you.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the congregation, even.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Though we know you are only on the legal abiding,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: law abiding side. We have two pews, so you know,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: the shadier people said on the other pew. Close in mind,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: you know neither you know, chill we in church, y'all
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: church hug exactly, come as you are, amen, ain'tmen.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: So we always ask all this podcast, where would you
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: like to be found?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Anything you want to plug, socials, anything you got going
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: on and you want people to see. Yes, So I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: have The Latest with Laura Rosa, which is my podcast.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: It is weekday mornings and it is your daily digestible
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: breakdown of all things pop culture, entertainment, news and I
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: do some exclusive news. We break news there as well too,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: but we also get into conversations that shake the room.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: And that's why I've enjoyed this conversation, Like conversations that
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: really impact people, you know, opinion and thought that you
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: don't necessarily hear everywhere because you know, people don't want
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: to get into the thing sometimes when we do over
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: my podcast, So you guys can check that out anywhere
• 1:05:37
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  Speaker 2: not Dominican. Please put some kind of fields.
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  Speaker 1: All over my name.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and then of course you see me on
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club daily as well to Breakfast Club is
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: everywhere on social the Breakfast Club, Yes, you can find
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: it everywhere. Charlemagne once presented me with the iHeart Radio Award.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Oh that's good, that's fire. It's very funny because they
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: told me I had to walk and stuff. Yeah, it's lovely. So, yes,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: he made me feel tall because I am I'm five
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: nine on the internet, so you know, yeah, he's a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: little brown man.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: He's gonna love that. Charlie Man, come on the show.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Do you see I'm really serious? I mean no, I
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: mean yeah, I was with him. Yeah, but he's not
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: that little because I'm tall. So we're both tall, so
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, oh, you're short too, No,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: I'm I have a.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Tall personality, Lauren, you're not hearing me.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I'm five nine O my bad, dang sorry on the
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: internet okay, because no, man is it's not five or nine.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: That's only on daily dating profiles. But me all are in.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Short, y'all are height comfortable. You know, we have tall personalities.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: That's what we like to say.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Lauren, Okay, yes, love it. Shoot for the stars. Girl. Wow,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: you're speaking like a tall I feel I give a
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: little five a five nine. It's cool, it's cool. It's
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: all right, same night. Why are you playing? Call me short?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: That's not short?
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's you said you charlotmge sight. He's a
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: little man. I'm guess like you girl.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, how tall are you really?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Like? B to? You know the way you just spun
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: around that cheer, I feel like your feet aren't on
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: the ground.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I just saw that. Okay, all right, I gotta go
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: kick it. And the congregation I just got invited. Okay,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you''t even a communion?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we get we getting the wine and the laced
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: potato chips out right now you got I don't think
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: y'all gonn want baptize you, okay, gore the roads everywhere.
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• 1:07:42
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• 1:07:44
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