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- 0:08Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the second of May twenty twenty four, just
- 0:11after one o'clock. Welcome to the UK Column News. I'm your host Mike
- 0:14Robinson joining me by video link. Today we have Vanessa Billy in Damascus and
- 0:18Charles Mallett. Welcome to the program. Both. We're going to get started
- 0:22today with the Infected Blood Inquiry report. And of course this came out on
- 0:27Monday and as I was driving home and Monday evening I had the delight of
- 0:32listening to Rishie Sunac's presentation in the House of Commons on this. This is
- 0:38the comment that Sir Brian Langstaff, the chair of the inquiry made release one
- 0:45of the comments that he made so he said that this was not an accident.
- 0:49He said it was a conspiracy, but not in the sense of a
- 0:52handful of people plotting in an orchestrated conspiracy to mislead, but in a way
- 0:56that was more subtle, more pervasive and more chilling at its implication. So,
- 1:00thirty thousand people across the UK infected with contaminated blood. More than three
- 1:04thousand people have died so far. Others heading in that direction. Sadly,
- 1:12the names and mid names for criticism here with Kenneth Clark. Of course,
- 1:18we should remember Kenneth Clark at the time was on the steering committee for the
- 1:21Builderberg Group. I'm not suggesting that that's related. I just that's just for
- 1:25background. We'll be talking about the Builderberg Group again a little bit later.
- 1:27He was Health Minister in Margaret Thatcher's government, and the Thatcher government itself heavily
- 1:34criticized as well. Traloor School criticized because they were hemophilicate. Children that were
- 1:42there were sent to the school that had an on site NHS clinic, and
- 1:47so they were supposed to be getting as near a normal childhood as possible,
- 1:53and then the NHS themselves receiving quite a bit of criticism. So now,
- 2:02as I said, I was listening to Richie Sinac on the way home on
- 2:07Monday evening, and I regret to say, I am going to play a
- 2:12little bit of this because well, I would suggest that his demeanor and his
- 2:17delivery could only be perhaps competed with by mad Hann Corklet's have a listen today.
- 2:27I want to speak directly to the victims and their families, some of
- 2:31whom are with us in the gallery I want to make a wholehearted and unequivocal
- 2:38apology for this terrible injustice. First, first to apologize for the failure in
- 2:46blood policy and blood products and the devastating and so often fatal impact has had
- 2:52on so many lives, including the impact of treatments that were known or proved
- 2:55to be contaminated, the failure to respond to the risk of imported concentrates,
- 3:00the failure to prioritize self sufficiency and blood the failure to introduce screening services sooner,
- 3:07and the mismanagement of the response to the emergence of AIDS and hepatitis viruses
- 3:10amongst infected blood victims. Second, to apologize for the repeated failure of the
- 3:19state and our medical professionals to recognize the harm caused. This includes the failure
- 3:24of previous payment schemes, the inadequate levels of funding made available, and the
- 3:29failure to recognize Hepatitis B victims. And third, to apologize for the institutional
- 3:37refusal to face up to these failings and worse, to deny an even attempt
- 3:44to cover them up. The dismissing of reports and campaigners detailed representations, the
- 3:50loss and destruction of key documents, including ministerial advice and medical records, and
- 3:55the appalling length of time it took to secure the public inquiry, which has
- 4:00delivered the full truth today, mister speaker, layer upon layer of hurt endured
- 4:10across decades. This is an apology from the state to every single person impacted
- 4:16by this scandal. It did not have to be this way. It should
- 4:21never have been this way, and on behalf of this and every government stretching
- 4:27back to the nineteen seventies, I am truly sorry. So I'm sorry to
- 4:32show so much of that, but keep those words in mind as we continue
- 4:38here. Now we have a bit of an exclusive because this is June Rine's
- 4:42comments from the MHRA board meeting yesterday. As you quite rightly say, this
- 4:49is the issue that is at the forefront of all our minds today and throughout
- 4:55the Infective blood inquiry. We have been listening carefully to the en enormously distressing
- 5:00experience of so many individuals and their families, and we offer our full and
- 5:06heartfelt sympathy to all of those who have suffered so much. We are absolutely
- 5:14determined to demonstrate that the healthcare product's regulatory system has learned from these individuals and
- 5:21their wholly unacceptable experiences. The Government will be studying the report and its recommendations
- 5:30in very great detail now before returning to Parliament with a full and considered response.
- 5:39I think what we need to say today is that patients and families can
- 5:42have confidence in today's rigorous regulatory standards and that the UK has one of the
- 5:49safest blood supply services in the world. Patient safety is our first priority,
- 5:58our highest priority. Well, no blood or blood product can ever be completely
- 6:02without risk. The stringent regulations that we have in place today are designed to
- 6:10prevent viruses being transmitted through blood or blood products. So the Board, as
- 6:17you say, will be returning in the future to this issue. So that
- 6:24is quite an incredible statement from June Rin because while she's saying that lessons have
- 6:27been learned and that it's not going to be repeated and we should have confidence
- 6:31in the regulatory regime, in the meantime, they're not testing blood for spike
- 6:35protein for example, And well we can go on with this. Here's Reschie
- 6:41Sunac again coming back to him. He went on to say, today their
- 6:46voices have finally been heard. The full truth stands for all to see.
- 6:48He used this term the full truth on multiple occasions, not just the truth,
- 6:53but the full truth, and we'll work together across government or health services
- 6:57and civil society ensure that nothing like this never happen in our country again.
- 7:02So the question is what is the MHRA doing to make sure that blood products
- 7:08are safe today? Because I suggest that they're not doing very much, certainly
- 7:12not with respect to potential contamination post vaccination. And then we have the issue
- 7:17of midaslam and morphine use. What's being done about that within the NHS and
- 7:26so on. So there are many, many questions about whether the government has
- 7:32actually learned any lessons here, whether there's any sincerity and anything that's been said
- 7:36by either Rishie Sunac or gin Rain. I suspect there is none, and
- 7:42I suspect that many of our viewers and listeners will agree with that statement.
- 7:46And we'll talk a little bit more about this in extra and have no doubt
- 7:48the Debbie will be wanting to say more about it on Friday. But let's
- 7:53move on. Vanessa, let me welcome you to the program. And of
- 7:57course, the other big news from the beginning of the week was the by
- 8:01the ICC prosecutor to bring charges against Benjamin then Yahoo at least to attempt too.
- 8:07Yes, so the request has been issued for warrants for Prime Minister Benjaminett
- 8:15and Yahome, Minister of for Yoav Gallan, and four members of Hamas leadership
- 8:22Yahya Sinwar, Mohammad diab Ibrahim al Masri and Ishmael Hanyek. Interesting that the
- 8:30pretext for the warrants with regards to the Israeli leadership does not mention genocide,
- 8:35and for the Hamas leadership it does mention the debunked claims of rape and torture
- 8:43on October the seventh. Now, I just want to show an interview that
- 8:48Chief Prosecutor Karying Khan had with the CNN in the last couple of days where
- 8:54he talks about threats that have been issued against him. This situation, unfortunately
- 9:01lies on the San Andreas fault of international politics and strategic interests. And of
- 9:09course I've had some elected leaders speak to me and be very blunt. This
- 9:13court is built for Africa and for thugs like Putin, was what one senior
- 9:20leader told me. We don't view it like that. This court is the
- 9:26legacy of Nuremberg. This court is a sad indictment of humanity. This court
- 9:31should be the triumph of law overpower and brute force. Grab what you can,
- 9:37take what you want, do what you will, and we're going to
- 9:39simply, We're not going to be dissuaded by threats. Quite extraordinary. I
- 9:48mean, this takes you back to when John Bolton threatened Jose Bustani the first
- 9:54OPCWG the Organization for the Prevention of Call Weapons prior to the two thousand and
- 10:01three Iraq illegal invasion by the United States, and then just moving on reported
- 10:09in Axios, House Speaker in the US Mike Johnson said Monday that the House
- 10:16may vote on sanctions against the International Criminal Court for issuing or seeking sorry an
- 10:24arrest warrant against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netan Yahoo, and that has been supported
- 10:30by a number of bipartisan senators, including Tom Cotton, Senator for Arkansas,
- 10:35who went on Twitter saying equating Israel's democratically elected leaders with perpetrators of the worst
- 10:41attack on Jews since World War II shows what are fast The International Criminal Court
- 10:48is mister Khan's kangaroo court has no jurisdiction in Israel to pursue these anti semitic
- 10:54and politically motivated charges. My colleagues and I look forward to making sure neither
- 11:00and his associates all their families will ever set foot again in the United States.
- 11:05And then let's just roll an excerpt of a video interview with Tom Cotton
- 11:11when he's talking about imposing the sanctions. I do have legislation that would impost
- 11:16sanctions on this rogue prosecutor and those in his office who have not just targeted
- 11:20Prime Minister net and Yahoo now, but also in the past of targeted American
- 11:24soldiers as well. We're working with the Republican leadership in the House to try
- 11:28to pass that bill promptly and hopefully forced Chuck Schumer's hand to bring it up
- 11:33in the Senate because he also condemned the International Criminal Court today. But I
- 11:35would just say, the only reason we have to pursue this legislation is that
- 11:39Joe Biden reversed Donald Trump's decision to sanction this very office in this very court
- 11:46in the past. This is a rogue court that Congress has previously given the
- 11:50President power to stand up to. Joe Biden hasn't used that power. Donald
- 11:54Trump didn't extraordinary. I mean it wasn't a rogue court was successfully prosecuting Britain
- 12:01for war crimes in Ukraine. Well, yes, exactly. So it's incredible
- 12:07how it becomes a road court suddenly when it takes on Israel. And I
- 12:13have to say that right now, I have to make the statement that anybody
- 12:16that is denying genocide in Gaza and in Palestine as a whole, they've checked
- 12:22out of humanity. And I include among those Robert F. Kennedy Junior,
- 12:28who had this interview with The Hill only I think four days ago. So
- 12:33let's just play a section of that. You know, I don't believe that
- 12:37there's a genocide going on, and I don't think Israel's intention is genocide.
- 12:43I don't believe there's any evidence of genocide. There is genocide going on in
- 12:48the Mid East, but it's a genocide of Jews, and it's a genocide
- 12:52of Christians, and nobody's complaining about it for some reason. And they're much
- 12:58worse wars what's happening in Gaza right now, But for some reason, people
- 13:03don't want to complain unless it's Jews who are who can be blamed. The
- 13:07idea of saying that there's a genocide going on in Israel because people die in
- 13:13war. I do have to make the point that the ethnic cleansing of Christians
- 13:20in the region is largely down to the West sponsorship of the terrorist groups,
- 13:26particularly here in Syria. And I just wanted to show a very short exit
- 13:33of an eleven twelve minute report on the actual genocide in Gaza. And there's
- 13:41nothing distressing in it other than for me, of course, because han Unas
- 13:45is an area that I visited when I was in Gaza. It was one
- 13:48of the most vibrant areas of Grazia, the most fantastic fruit farms and agricultural
- 13:54areas. So let's just play this short section of the longer port that you
- 14:00can find on my telegram channel. Thanks mate. And as it's Sarah pertained
- 14:05cool and I'm a such a double shut that's nothing shadow for see, I'm
- 14:16going with the slag and then to the roofs of their home and they're going
- 14:22to show me a lot of things. As they said, to speak more
- 14:28the journey side. They were not able to see the sea, you know,
- 14:33everything is detroyed, so they can't see it. How you thought of
- 14:43that? I can get the like can get wait sure, yeah, thank
- 15:07you for that, Vanessa Charles. Let's come on to the UK and the
- 15:09International Criminal Court Act. Thanks Mike, good afternoon all. Yes, just
- 15:16a very brief addendum to Vanessa's excellent segment, and we see that we determined
- 15:22to push on with this, but just a reminder, really all recap.
- 15:26I have touched on this in the past, but the International Criminal Court Act
- 15:30two thousand and one on the UK Statute Book has within its section fifty two
- 15:33which refers to conduct ancillary to genocide and so forth. So essentially, when
- 15:41we consider all the statements made in Parliament and by various members of the government,
- 15:46it's worth bearing in mind that it is an offense against the law of
- 15:48England and Wales for a person to engage in conduct ancillary to an act which
- 15:52this section applies. So that goes through the various acts of side and war
- 16:00crimes, and it doesn't matter whether or not the act is committed within or
- 16:06without the United Kingdom. So I just wanted to sort of pop that up
- 16:10as a reminder now that the pressure is on internationally, there should be further
- 16:15scrutiny, which was of course missing at the time, on those that have
- 16:18said and done, acts and statements and the rest of it to support what
- 16:26Israel has done. And you know there'll be a significance, a greater deal
- 16:30of significance to this, bearing in mind what the ICC is now doing.
- 16:34Yes, thank you, Charles, Okay, staying with you. Then let's
- 16:38come back to the UK and farming. Yes, indeed, quite a bit
- 16:45to get through. So we'll start with the last week's unveiling of a package
- 16:51to support UK farmers. They're making a big sort of fanfare about this,
- 16:56but I think it's worth pointing out that at eighty million pounds, I know,
- 17:00it's sort of lifelike and comparison, but that amounts to less than ten
- 17:03percent of the funding commitment to Ukraine. Still, what sort of thing have
- 17:08they been talking about? Well, really it's all focused on sort of innovation
- 17:14and going to be putting up greenhouses, particularly the horticultural sector fruit and vegetables,
- 17:18and increasing yields and growing things out of season, and also particularly a
- 17:26focus on genetic engineering. And it's worth reminding viewers and listeners that the Precision
- 17:33Breeding Bill which came in last year had the very active support of the National
- 17:38Farmers' Union. So I think that's one of those things that should be considered.
- 17:42And of course there's no absolutely no content about nutrient density, about the
- 17:49stresses on the various plants in growing them out of season, and of course
- 17:52on the various requirements and chemical inducements that will be required to produce crops of
- 17:59this sort, So not just that, but also no mention of bioavailability,
- 18:03effectively the body's ability to actually recover nutrients from a particular food source. So
- 18:10really the focus is only on yield by volume by weight, which is a
- 18:15very clumsy mechanism when you're considering the health of the nation, which of course
- 18:19they are not particularly. The other thing, following great pressure from UK column
- 18:25is that they've introduced now a food security index, which will just take a
- 18:30quick look at. There's a started literally just now last week, and contained
- 18:37within this is a sort of a risk appraisal in which effectively what they're doing
- 18:41is setting the scene, or rather orchestrating a particular narrative so that everybody,
- 18:47butt defra is to blame when there is food shortage later on in the year.
- 18:52But you see here they're pointing towards international volatility, climate change and biodiversity
- 18:57loss, by which they mean arect economy through COVID policy, climate change based
- 19:03on no science tool, and biodiversity loss through poor farming practices and the introduction
- 19:07of chemicals and pharmaceutical products that shouldn't be there. But also they go on
- 19:11to talk about Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which is a recurring theme, and
- 19:17just to point out the way in which this is being manipulated, we see
- 19:22here a graph pointing towards energy and fertilizer prices and how steeply they've risen,
- 19:26And of course Russia and Ukraine, or rather Russia in particular, always gets
- 19:30the blame for this. But note that the price increase has happened well before
- 19:34the beginning of twenty twenty two. This is actually stated, but I suppose
- 19:38they're sort of hoping that nobody's really going to fluff to it. So both
- 19:41electricity and gas prices climb significantly from mid twenty twenty onwards, doubling for electricity
- 19:48and nearly tripling for gas. Of course, suggesting that Russia was responsible for
- 19:52this entirely is disingenuous. And then they say that fertilizer prices also surge from
- 19:56mid twenty twenty now just to complicate matters even further. But again to go
- 20:02back to what UK column has been covering this year, solar projects must fit
- 20:07in with food security. So food security of course is now becoming a buzzy
- 20:11topic. And this again came out last week fifteenth, made just the day
- 20:15after the previous announcement, And they've been in hot water effectively because there've been
- 20:19accusations of solar farms being put in places that really food should be grown.
- 20:25But again they bang the same drum with growing geopolitical tension and solar continuing to
- 20:30play a key part in the government's plans for energy security and that zero and
- 20:34also that the planning authorities must now consider cumulative impacts where several proposals for solar
- 20:40projects come forward in the same area I've highlighted must consider because it doesn't go
- 20:45so far as to say that they actually need to do anything about it other
- 20:49than consider it. But what I want to lay alongside this is a statement
- 20:53made by John Pettigrew, the chief executive of the National Grid, who has
- 20:59posted on his LinkedIn page a talk that he gave about what he cause the
- 21:03SuperGrid. So effectively he's talking about overlaying a network onto the national grid to
- 21:08be able to significantly upscale the output from the National Grid. But interestingly,
- 21:18what he points to in particular is future growth in foundational technologies like artificial intelligence
- 21:25and quantum computing will mean larger scale, energy intensive computing infrastructure, and he
- 21:32goes on to say demand from commercial data centers will increase sixfold just in the
- 21:37next ten years. He goes on to talk about this being a pivotal moment
- 21:42and all the rest of it. But the point really to bear in mind
- 21:47is that whilst on the one hand, we've got the government insistence that we
- 21:51can meet an energy target which is going to be driven by renewable energy,
- 21:56and of course we know that when the sun doesn't shine in the wind doesn't
- 21:57play, or indeed the windblows too hard, we can't recover energy from those
- 22:00sources. But also the insistence that through innovation in farming and the use of
- 22:06AI, we will be able to do all these things at the same time.
- 22:10And yet we have the head of the National Grid telling us exactly why
- 22:12it's going to be very difficult to meet those shortfalls because of the increase in
- 22:18AI, which is demanding more and more and more power. So that's on
- 22:22the sort of defra what they're doing side. The other thing is we return
- 22:26to avian influenza and in particular the preparation for this autumn's pandemic. So again
- 22:37please stay tuned because this very very much refers to humans. The guidance on
- 22:44reporting dead birds has just been updated, which has happened very infrequently since it
- 22:48was first to introduce over a decade ago. But specifically they're saying, this
- 22:52is how you should use the service, and it'll help you to understand how
- 22:56diseases are spreading. So they'll ask you where you find the dead birds and
- 23:00all the rest of it. But the point of this is of course that
- 23:03they may be collected and tested for bird flu or another cause of death.
- 23:07Well, I can tell you absolutely for sure that they will only be testing
- 23:11for bird flu because that's all they want to find. They're not in the
- 23:14least bit interested in any other environmental factor. Because I wrote a freedomation request
- 23:18and had that in black and white. That is all they test for.
- 23:22So of course it's no great surprise to learn that they have a bird flu
- 23:26Vaccination task force. Now what do you think they're up to well the Health
- 23:30Security Agency are pushing the boundaries of vaccine research and development. Sounds a bit
- 23:36ominous, but what they say is that they have an agreement with CSL Sequorus,
- 23:41who will be on standby to produce over one hundred million influenza pandemic vaccines
- 23:48tailored to the specific strain of course, if needed. Now, where on
- 23:52Earth has this come from? And who are CSL What they describe themselves as
- 23:55being leaders in influenza, which could be interpreted in one of two ways.
- 24:00But they talk about considering pandemic preparedness, and the bit I want to draw
- 24:03your attention to is the highlighted text here really, which is saying that the
- 24:10current outbreak of H five N one that began in twenty one is the largest
- 24:14recorded in history and is causing concern due to the increased mammalian infections from infected
- 24:19birds. The recent zooosis of H five N one and death of a child
- 24:23from the disease in Cambodia is a stark reminder of the risk posed by an
- 24:29influenza pandemic. Now that is exactly how they are prefixing this, and so
- 24:37the whole world they are suggesting may be affected by something that they are stating
- 24:41has killed one child in the entire world. And I should just remind you
- 24:47also that this illness only exists in a laboratory. The testing can only operate
- 24:53in a laboratory, and so all of this is in effect an exercise in
- 24:59modeling and can to generated genetic sequences. But it absolutely looks like this is
- 25:04coming down the track for the autumn to be to be introduced into or at
- 25:08least the suggestion that it will be introduced into the poultry population. Of course
- 25:15this coincides with the registration of poultry for all keepers, but also the suggestion
- 25:19that you personally are so at risk. Charles, Thanks very much, many
- 25:25parallels with the last few years. Now let's move on. If you like
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- 27:23seeing you. So now let's move on then to Julian Nsanje. And of
- 27:29course on Monday it was announced that he was going to be given leave to
- 27:34appeal. If we can put that on screen, this is wiki leaks,
- 27:37an important if partial victory is how it was being described. So this is
- 27:44perhaps perhaps a positive development. I put that caveat on there because of course,
- 27:52what has been happening in the United States and partecular over the last couple
- 27:55of months is that people have been ramping up the pressure on Joe Biden to
- 27:59do something thing about assignage, to drop this entire thing before the election in
- 28:04the presidential election in the United States. Not only does this result effectively mean
- 28:11that Juliana Sanche has to spend another six months or so in prison before an
- 28:15appeal can be brought, because there has to be preparation for that appeal,
- 28:19but it is going to push the can down the road far enough that this
- 28:23probably will not be a major election event, which I think is unfortunate.
- 28:27Vanessa, what are your thoughts on this? Yeah, I know, I
- 28:32mean we talked about this last night and I totally agree with your reading of
- 28:37it. It's definitely you know, political motivation behind it and manipulation and it's
- 28:45horrible. Yes, okay, Well, sticking with you, then let's talk
- 28:49about this developments in Iran following the crash of the helicopter which killed the president.
- 28:56Yes, well, obviously yesterday was the actual funeral in Tabriz and Colm
- 29:04and today is the procession in Tehran. And I have to say, seeing
- 29:08the videos playing out on social media, particularly on telegram channels, there are
- 29:14millions on the streets. So I just wanted to have a quick look obviously
- 29:17at the context around when the helicopter crash happened. So it came almost concurrently
- 29:23with the Americans arrested after leading the coup to work to throw the government in
- 29:27Congo as the U as far as to co operate in investigation. Turkey's president
- 29:33holds emergency meeting, admits coup warning that was in the fifteenth of May.
- 29:38Macron is heading to New Caledonia as protests gather momentum, and there was an
- 29:45alleged assassination threat against President Buchch in Siberia, and of course we had the
- 29:52attempted assassination. He's still not fully out of the woods of Slovakia's Prime Minister
- 30:00Fico, and also the problems in Georgia that Alex has been reporting on.
- 30:06So then if we have a look at Sergey Labrov's statement, he's basically initially
- 30:11blaming US aviation sanctions, including against Iran ban on the supply of Square part
- 30:17put people at risk. US deliberately harmed ordinary citizens. So that's basically the
- 30:22sense that he's taking at the moment. Let's try to look at how Western
- 30:26media, which I have to say has been absolutely shameful in its reporting of
- 30:33this tragedy for Iranian people. Here's the BBC talking about fireworks in Tehran celebrating
- 30:40the death of President Rayc even before the death had actually been declared, and
- 30:45social media posts, and I have to say I saw the social media commentary
- 30:52and it's very similar to kind of the name post seventy seventh Brigade, the
- 30:56same tweet being tweeted out multiple times. Let's have a look. First of
- 31:00all, let's verify the BBC report on fireworks in Tehran. This is Abbas
- 31:07Juma, who is a journalist and historian who was in Tehran. And if
- 31:11we can just play the second clip also might because of course what they're also
- 31:15claiming is, you know, inflaming the entire women's rights issue. Also,
- 31:22so if we can play the two clips concurrently and simus Nasoneerazana and so there's
- 32:12no audio, So this is basically just demonstrating the fact that many of the
- 32:16women that were in Tehran were not wearing hijab and were totally unmolested from being
- 32:23without hit dab. And that's something that I also remarked on when I spent
- 32:28two weeks in Iran in twenty twenty two. I wanted to have a lot
- 32:34of the Western media is also talking about the fact that even Racey's replacement is
- 32:38likely to continue the development of relations with the East, particularly China and Russia,
- 32:45which of course is an absolute anatoma to Western global supremacy. But this
- 32:52particular article caught my attention, which was in the Telegraph opinion section, The
- 32:59West must strike now and collapse the Iranian regime. The vulnerabilities of the Ayotola
- 33:02Aleamine succession plan are now on full display. So it's written by Mark Wallis
- 33:08and Kestra Arab, So let's have a look at who they are. So
- 33:15Ambassador markty Wallace is the CEO of United Against Nuclear Iran and a former Ambassador
- 33:21to the United Nations. Rabi is director of IRGC Research at United Against Nuclear
- 33:29Iran. So let's just have a quick look at what they're saying. This
- 33:32is an opening that should be exploited. We must support the Iranian people's democratic
- 33:37ambitions to bring an end to a regime that kills its own people, seeks
- 33:43to eradicate the world's only Jewish states, and exports terror around the world.
- 33:49Instead of offering condolences to the regime, as EU officials have shamelessly done,
- 33:54the West should be focusing on the Iranian people and its public diplomacy. It
- 34:00should be amplifying the cause of the Iranian people for an end to the Islamic
- 34:04Republic. Simultaneously, the US government and its allies should consider covert operations,
- 34:09both cyber and kinetic, to exacerbate the divisions within the regime's elite and in
- 34:15Bolden the Iranian people against the regime. Make no mistake, the collapse of
- 34:21the Islamic Republic will be the single most liberating event for the Iranian people.
- 34:27So I think that's pretty clear in its gender. But let's have a look
- 34:30at this organization, United against Nuclear Iran. It claims it's a nonprofit and
- 34:37non partisan policy organization formed to combat the threats posed by the Islamic Republic Iran,
- 34:43not mentioning, of course, the threat from a nuclear Israel. But
- 34:46let's have a look at who's on the board. It's quite fascinating. It's
- 34:51packed full of intel figures and personalities. Also might from the UK Ministry of
- 34:58Defense and intel aigence agencies. But of course we have John Bolton that I
- 35:02mentioned in the previous report, but Zoha Palti, who was a former director
- 35:08of the spy agency Mossad, and if we go on, the original co
- 35:15founders also include my Dagan, the former general director of MOSSAD, so I
- 35:22think conflict of interest comes into play. I also wanted to play a section
- 35:28of an interview between Sayed Mohammed Mirandi, a historian and professor in Tehran,
- 35:35and with the awful Piers Morgan. I basically edited out Piers Morgan because I
- 35:40don't want to inflict that on people. But this is a section of said
- 35:45Mohammed Mirandi, basically schooling Piers Morgan, and there's very little that I can
- 35:50disagree with in what he says. So let's play this. See what you're
- 35:55saying is is inaccurate? To say the least, I would say the butchers
- 36:00are in London, in Washington, the people who destroyed Iraq, Afghanistan,
- 36:06Yemen during the disgraceful genocide there, the dirty warrants here, the destruction of
- 36:12Libya, the sanctions on Venezuela and Cuba. I think that the real monsters
- 36:17are actually much more closer to home. He wasn't executing people. He was
- 36:23in the judiciary at the time. And the people who you're alluding to,
- 36:27and the numbers are far less than what you claim they are. Actually this
- 36:30is something that your government should be ashamed of. These are people who fought
- 36:35against Iran, They fought for Saddam Hussein as foot soldiers. They betrayed the
- 36:38country. They carried out bomb attacks in this country, killing up to seventeen
- 36:45thousand people, including President, a prime minister, head of Judiciary, bomb
- 36:50explosion near my house when I was a school student. I was getting ready
- 36:52to go to school. It killed nine to eleven people, including an Armenian
- 36:57family. Four. These are the people who you're saying they were murdered by
- 37:01Iranians. No that in Iran, no one has any sympathy for them.
- 37:06Ek Terras organization which today has a major base in Albania and it has offices
- 37:13across Europe and North America. So it is your government that's supporting terrorism.
- 37:17It is your government and your governments that are really the brutal regime. As
- 37:27I said, I can't argue with anything that he said there. The entire
- 37:32video, will interview will be in the show notes for people to watch Iranians
- 37:37flood the streets in remembrance of Ibrahim Raisi and of course foreign Am Abdul Kayan
- 37:45and the crew members that were also killed in the crash. And I have
- 37:51to say again that the videos showing on social media today are quite extraordinary.
- 37:55Millions have taken to the streets, not only in Tehran but in villages and
- 38:00towns throughout Iran. Yesterday I attended a ceremony at the Iranian embassy, but
- 38:06of course the consulate part was bombed by Israel last month's beginning of April.
- 38:12There were many dignitaries present, including in the photo there his Excellency jose Bo
- 38:17Morghi, the Ambassador of Venezuela and finally for impact on resistance access leaders.
- 38:28Very sad news that the First Lady of Syria, Asthma al Asad, has
- 38:32now having survived cancer and come back from that, she's now been diagnosed with
- 38:39leukemia and is about to undergo some pretty heavy treatment. So we wish her
- 38:49well. Thank you, Vanessa, thank you. Let's come to Europe again
- 38:54and well. Klaus Schwab has said he's off well off, of course,
- 39:01eighty five years old, the leader of the World Economic Form. Everybody knows
- 39:05who he is. Well, he has decided that he will no longer be
- 39:08the executive chairman. He will become a non executive chairman instead, so taking
- 39:15a step back at least. So who's going to replace him? It looks
- 39:17like it's not going to be Tony Blair after all, It's going to be
- 39:21this guy, Borgie Brande, who is currently president of the World Economic Form
- 39:29Executive Board, former Foreign Minister of Norway. He's going to take over from
- 39:32Klauss. But who's this guy? Well, it turns out he is on
- 39:37the steering committee of the Builderberg Group. So here's the current Builderberg meeting's website
- 39:42and the current steering committee. Let's just bring a few names on screen.
- 39:45It does include mister Brandy. Let's see who else is on here, Mark
- 39:50Carney, former governor of the Bank of England, and current sort of climate
- 39:57change Fishernado John Sores, the previous the prior c head of m I six
- 40:06is on the steering committee of the Broderborg Group. So these are all colleagues,
- 40:09and Peter Thiel is on there. I just chose a few names from
- 40:14it. And of course, as I mentioned earlier, well his name escapes
- 40:21me, so I'll pass over that particular comment. But anyway, just find
- 40:24it extremely interesting that that particular person has been chosen to lead the World Economic
- 40:31Forum. So Charles, let's come back to you and a little bit more
- 40:37on weather modification. Thanks Mat. Yes, a topic that the sort of
- 40:44lurks in the background in some way or other, and I want to introduce
- 40:50this particular segment by talking about an organization that both Ben and Debbie have focused
- 40:55on some degree in the last few months. And that is ARIA, or
- 41:00at least I would pronounce it as Aria. Might be as pronounce as Aria.
- 41:05But the Advanced Research and Invention Agency which has been given a whacking great
- 41:10eight hundred million pounds by government to do essentially whatever it likes. But among
- 41:17its chosen tasks are managing our climate and weather through responsible engineering. So just
- 41:24to go back a little bit to what it is that spawned area, and
- 41:30that's the Advanced Research and Invention Agency Act of twenty twenty two, just a
- 41:37couple of sort of slightly unusual things in it may be able to do anything
- 41:42that they like in the exercise of its functions. In particular, they may
- 41:45borrow money, acquiring, dispose of land, form and participating partnerships and joint
- 41:50ventures and form companies fair enough, but also they may accept gifts, which
- 41:52seems an unusual power to have, if you can call it a power.
- 41:57But also on the national security side, the Sector of State may give ARIA
- 42:01directions as to the exercise of its functions if the Secretary of State considers it
- 42:06necessary or expedient in the interests of national security. Now that I think is
- 42:09worth concentrating on because of course, national security, when pushed can encompass almost
- 42:15anything. But of course, the power to give directions under this section includes
- 42:19power to vary or revoke a direction, and area must comply with a direction
- 42:23given under this section. So I think that's one to consider for the future.
- 42:28But back to weather modification, and Google have decided that they want to
- 42:34weigh into this particular subject area with what they're calling Project Contrails. And what
- 42:40exactly does that mean. Well, they're talking about yet another AI project,
- 42:45using Google AI to help airlines prevent contrails. Well, why planes don't always
- 42:50make contrails. Contrails only occur when planes fly through humid regions. If planes
- 42:54intentionally avoid flying through these regions, then they can avoid creating warming contrails with
- 43:00minimal impact on fuel usage. They go on to say, the challenge is
- 43:04knowing where these regions will occur. By combining massive quantities of weather data AI
- 43:12sorry, what's my place, they can create stated that the art predictions of
- 43:16when and where contrails are likely to form. Pilots and dispatchers can then use
- 43:21this information to adjust the altitudes of their flights. And finally, Google give
- 43:28a little illustration here of what's in a contrail. When a plane flies through
- 43:31the humid areas, the soot from the exhaust can sometimes nucleate small droplets and
- 43:37form ice. Now, the reason I bring this up is that a few
- 43:40weeks ago I spoke about the marine cloud brightening program being run by the University
- 43:45of Washington off the west coast of the United States, and essentially there's just
- 43:51seems to be an awful lot going on with very little information coming. What
- 43:54we did find out from that was that the University of Exeter was involved,
- 44:00albeit somewhat obliquely. But I want to point out now that the University of
- 44:05Reading is pointing about is describing change climates and how they're pushing the boundaries of
- 44:10understanding the atmosphere, and they go on to talk about pioneering the science behind
- 44:16the weather. Again, I'm not quite sure how we're meant to interpret that,
- 44:21but they show how humans are altering the climate, and also their discoveries
- 44:24might one day help people to change the weather too, So they are sort
- 44:30of pushing on with this agenda. And I would just sort of refer you
- 44:37back to the Science and Technology Committee report from twentyd and nine to ten,
- 44:43in which it was specified that in the definition of geoengineering, whether techniques such
- 44:47as cloud seedings should not be included within the definition of geoengineering used for the
- 44:52purposes of activities designed to affect a change in the global climate and so on.
- 44:58Of course, in that same report they talk about their priority being to
- 45:00tackle climate change at source, but they recognize, however, that geo engineering
- 45:06might have a possible role to play. Of course, by that they appear
- 45:08to mean things other than cloud seeding, but nonetheless public engagement they talk about
- 45:15as being an important issue. And so I just want to round off by
- 45:19pointing out that there is a petition open at the moment to government to make
- 45:23all forms of geoengineering affecting the environment illegal. Now, I think this petition,
- 45:30for the sake of simplicity, does include any form of weather modification.
- 45:34And of course, as you'll be aware, even though the response is very
- 45:39very rarely even adequate, if such a petition reaches one hundred thousand signatures,
- 45:45it does have to be debated in Parliament. So whilst you might perceive that
- 45:50petitions are in some way a futile exercise, they do at least create an
- 45:53audit trail and they do create pressure where none prefocly existed. So I would
- 45:58encourage you to take a look at that, look at that petition at least
- 46:01well, I would say, Charles. I would add to that by saying,
- 46:06they not only create an audit trail and an obligation on Parliament if the
- 46:09target has met. They are useful in the sense of being an organizational tool.
- 46:15So they can be used to promote a particular topic to people that may
- 46:20not otherwise be engaged in that. So we shouldn't just write them off completely.
- 46:23I mean, I appreciate that the principle of petitions and asking your captors
- 46:29effectively or your farmers to do the right thing value isn't necessarily going to work,
- 46:35but they have a use nonetheless, I don't know if you've got any
- 46:37thoughts on that. Yeah, quite right now, I mean I would,
- 46:42I would perfectly agree. And I think really the volume of literature now and
- 46:45material on whether modification, I think does deserve more attention, but it needs
- 46:51to be brought into the realms of the public debate. And I think that
- 46:54you know, the central question really is if the government's claiming that it does
- 46:58not have any intent to do any of these things, then why on earth
- 47:00is it funding so many research projects that look into exactly this issue. Indeed,
- 47:07well, look, I would like to just very quickly introduce everybody and
- 47:09I to a slightly tongue in cheek thing in one sense but not in the
- 47:15other, and that we've something we were deciding. We've decided to call UKC
- 47:20verify and we're doing this really the pok a stick at the BBC. So
- 47:24let's just bring the first example of this on. We're going to fact check
- 47:28this article. So the tragic story that appeared yesterday of the flight to Singapore
- 47:37where one pasture has passed away a guy called Jeff Kitchen as a result of
- 47:43an aircraft flying through some pretty severe turbulence and he has apparently had a heart
- 47:49attack. But a lot of other people on the aircraft were injured as a
- 47:52result because they were not wearing seat belts or whatever. But quite in itself
- 48:00a tragic event, but in the global scheme of things. It was surprising
- 48:05to me last night because it happened to be in the car at seven pm
- 48:07when the news came on. It surprised me that the BBC was leading with
- 48:10this story. So it only surprised me, however, for about thirty seconds,
- 48:15because of course, in the course of the story, they brought on
- 48:20somebody that they described as an expert, who then told us that because of
- 48:24a human created climate change, there were many more of these types of turbulence
- 48:31events happening. So anyway, the BBC then followed up with this article today
- 48:37what is flight turbulence and why does it happen? So they seem to have
- 48:42been walking back slightly from their position here, so this is one of the
- 48:45things they're saying. This means skies are busier, making a pilot's decision and
- 48:49avoiding turbulence trickier as they have to maintain a safe minimum distance from aircraft in
- 48:54the area. I'm going to say that that is I think that's possibly not
- 49:02entirely accurate, but okay. They then went on to say that guy Gratton
- 49:07suggests that we are encountering turbulence more, adding that other reasons for this may
- 49:13be the fact that we are flying more. The other reasons that they mentioned
- 49:16in this article being a scientific paper which suggests that there is more turbulence happening
- 49:22as a result of man made global warming. But in fact, if you
- 49:28go to the National Transport Safety Board. They have a document here preventing Turbulence
- 49:34related injuries in their carrier operations conducted under Title fourteen, Code of Federal Regulations,
- 49:38Part one twenty one, and they're very clear in this document that there
- 49:44has been no change since nineteen eighty nine in this graph, so it says
- 49:49here Figure six shows yearly trends in Part one twenty one accident rits from nineteen
- 49:53eighty nine through twenty eighteen, after normalizing the data by annual flight rs so
- 49:59that the scale on the y access is accidents per one hundred thousand flight hours.
- 50:05So after normalizing the data by annual flight ours, there was no obvious
- 50:08trend over time for turbulence related Part twenty one twenty one accidents during this period.
- 50:14And you can see very clearly the dark blue line is basically horizontal all
- 50:17the way across those years. So the suggestion that climate change is causing more
- 50:24turbulence events is not borne out by the data. And for the BBC to
- 50:30use this story in order to push a climate change agenda seems to be to
- 50:37be a pretty cynical thing to do. So that will leave it that with
- 50:43that that's the first ukc Verify report so far. There would be many more
- 50:47coming in the days and weeks to follow. Charles. Let's move on to
- 50:53Hansard and now and the Fetal Sentience Committee Bill. Thank you, Mike.
- 51:00Yes, this is something I've spoken about briefly before. It was introduced to
- 51:04the House of Lords by Lord Moylen, and his perception is that it's been
- 51:09completely hijacked and effectively his bill, or at least his move on the bill,
- 51:15has been used as a proxy for a debate really about abortion. And
- 51:22so what we'll do is just go through a few of the tweets that he
- 51:27sent out about this bill. He says that he's pretty gutted that his Private
- 51:32member's bill has been wrecked by amendments tabled by Lady Thornton and Lady Liz Barker
- 51:37on behalf of Labor and libden front benches. The amendment means there's no parliamentary
- 51:42time to pass the bill bracket, which is their intention. The bill would
- 51:46have set up an independent expert committee to examine evidence of human fetal sentience and
- 51:52advise the government. It did nothing more than that. Debate at the second
- 51:57reading fell well below the standard of the UK House of Law. With both
- 52:00noble ladies making exaggerated claims about attacks on abortion rights, they were clear they
- 52:06didn't want better scientific understanding in case it disturbed their ideological commitment. Even more
- 52:12remarkably, neither noble lady was speaking in a personal capacity. Both were representing
- 52:16their party on the front bench, and they have gone on to table wrecking
- 52:21amendments, presumably also in their official party capacity. It's unusual for a private
- 52:24member's bill to be wrecked in this way, since most expire of natural causes
- 52:30without having to be torpedoed by amendments. So what does it say about putative
- 52:34labor government that they seem to have officially gone out of their way to put
- 52:38ideology before science on this most sensitive topic. So obviously Lord Moyland, they're
- 52:45not minting his words, and we will have a look at exactly what it
- 52:49is he's referring to, because these amendments were indeed put forward you see thereby
- 52:54Baroness's Thornton, Barker and Deach, and specifically, as I said, the
- 52:59refer to abortion. So clause one they want to insert offword knowledge and the
- 53:04legal rights of women during pregnancy and birth, including but not limited to,
- 53:08and in relation to abortion, medical decision making, and birth choices. And
- 53:14also to insert the Committee may not provide advice which seek to alter or rely
- 53:19upon altering abortion law, regulation, or practice. And to insert that the
- 53:24Committee may not provide advice which seeks to limit or relies upon limiting women's existing
- 53:30legal rights to decision making regarding their own healthcare and choices during pregnancy and birth.
- 53:38Now finally to insert save that no response shall be provided regarding advice in
- 53:45topic areas on which the government declines to take a policy position. So they've
- 53:52pushed very hard to as he say, as he says, torpedo this bill.
- 53:58And indeed the writing was on the wall from earlier on when debated back
- 54:02in March, because it was Baroness Kennedy at that point, who we see
- 54:07on screen here that spoke in that debate and said the following, When I
- 54:15saw this bill on our prospectus, I was immediately suspicious. It follows close
- 54:20on the heels of an effort during the Public Order bill to enable protests on
- 54:22the doorstep of abortion clinics. Of course that's not accurate, but she goes
- 54:28on happily that effort failed, and it was agreed that buffer zones were necessary.
- 54:31The amendment would have allowed people who totally opposed the termination of a pregnancy
- 54:37to harris women as they entered clinics for medical attention. While this is a
- 54:42very very one sided view of what the Public Order Act either did do or
- 54:46was going to do, and we've spoken at quite great length about the buffer
- 54:51zones and the extraordinary raft of powers that local authorities are granted by them.
- 54:57But nonetheless, she went on in her speech to say, why am I
- 55:01concerned? The politics of the United States of America has rithen with divisions on
- 55:05the issue of abortion for many decades. It has been weaponized by far right,
- 55:09deeply misogynistic organizations calling themselves Christian, which opposed women's right to reproductive freedom.
- 55:16I always say, follow the money. Dark money has surged into the
- 55:21United Kingdom's anti abortion groups in recent years. Well, she really has not
- 55:30left anybody in any doubt as to what she thought. But I have to
- 55:32say that a lot of what she said is not very well substantiated, if
- 55:37at all, particularly concerning the legislation surrounding the buffer zones that she refers to.
- 55:42But just to look at the other side of the coin. On Twitter,
- 55:46the Right for Right to Life UK has brought up the remarks of Lady
- 55:51Lawler, saying that she reveals the real reason why the abortion lobby groups strongly
- 55:55oppose the Fetal Sentence Committee Bill a sentience committee bill, sorry, opponents of
- 56:00a committee and this is to quote her fear that it will, as the
- 56:04science develops, find more and more evidence that fetuses, as they like to
- 56:09regard them, are indeed pre natal babies, able to feel pain from an
- 56:15early stage, and that abortion is merely premature infanticide. Yet, however strong
- 56:22are their views, they should not try to bury evidence that goes against them.
- 56:25They should be willing for the scientific picture to be fully understood and presented
- 56:30in all its nuances to policy makers. So interesting to hear remarks given on
- 56:39the other side of the debate. But of course, with the bill having
- 56:44been hijacked by the abortion issue, which, of course, if we're to
- 56:51take his word for it, was absolutely not at all the intention of Lord
- 56:53Moylen, it does give us the chance to look at abortion in the United
- 56:59Kingdom and the latest statistics that we can get hold of, which are now
- 57:06in some way quite out of date, because I bring up here the fact
- 57:09that in actual fact, the most recent statistics are now delayed from the twenty
- 57:15second of June twenty twenty three until twenty third of May twenty twenty four.
- 57:19Now, that is a significant delay, and they say that it's due to
- 57:22form processing. But given what we know about the extraordinary advice given to pregnant
- 57:28women and indeed women trying to conceive during the period where the COVID vaccines were
- 57:35being rolled out, seems an extraordinary coincidence that there should be quite such a
- 57:38delay in these source of statistical announcements. Nonetheless, working with what we do
- 57:45have, we see that the graph going back to twenty twenty one points very
- 57:50very sharply upwards, and indeed, partial statistics released last year going back for
- 57:55twenty twenty two, the light green showing the figures by month for the year
- 58:01twenty twenty two in comparison to the year before in twenty twenty one. Now,
- 58:07Buronus Kennedy talks about dark money. Now, that was an interesting phrase
- 58:10to use, but of course it's because she is effectively quoting from an article
- 58:15in the Good Law Project dark Money Uncovered, in which they say spending in
- 58:20the UK has surged from three hundred and ninety twenty twenty to seven hundred and
- 58:24seventy in twenty twenty two. In recent months, the ADF have provided legal
- 58:29support to protesters in Birmingham and Bournemouth arrested within buffer zones, which are designed
- 58:34to protect vulnerable women when they're seeking abortion care. So just to remind you
- 58:37if you're not completely ofay with the idea of the buffer zones, is effectively
- 58:43where people have been arrested for praying silently in their heads outside abortion clinics.
- 58:51And of course the law specifies that you're not to have a view one way
- 58:55or the other, either in favor of or against. Now on the issue
- 59:02of money, whilst they cite the amount of money that ADF has, it
- 59:07suppose I tho it'd be interesting just to look at the good Law Project and
- 59:09see that in actual fact they have five million pounds income in the last financial
- 59:14Ye're down a bit from just over six million in twenty twenty two. But
- 59:17also to point out that the good Law Project is well associated with Mermaids leading
- 59:24UK LGBTQ plus charities and the good Law Project Appeal. The lgb Alliance charity
- 59:32status. So in effect, this private member's bill, although not of very
- 59:38great consequence in the scheme of parliamentary debate, in actual fact does bring out
- 59:44some very very important issues concerning abortion, but also the enormous influences upon those
- 59:50that are espousing in particular the pro choice views. Thanks Charles. Okay,
- 59:57we're going to end very briefly with the latest fear porn from the British government
- 1:00:02and because Oliver Didden is in the process of announcing this new website from golf
- 1:00:09dot UK today. How would you prepare for an emergency? Emergency such as
- 1:00:15flooding, fires and park cuts can affect us all their simple and effective steps
- 1:00:19you can take to be more prepared, And of course one way that you
- 1:00:22can be more prepared is to make sure that you've got your emergency alert switched
- 1:00:24on on your mobile phones. But if we put that back on screen again
- 1:00:30for a second, we can see that if an emergency did happen in your
- 1:00:34area, how would you manage What about your relatives, friends, neighbors or
- 1:00:37colleagues. Did you know anyone who might need some extra help or support.
- 1:00:42They've got a prepper page here, Get Prepared for emergencies. Emergencies happen every
- 1:00:47day apparently, But anyway, this is the kit that you need. So
- 1:00:52you need a battery or wind up torch, you need portable power bank.
- 1:00:54You need a battery or wind up radio. You need spare batteries. You
- 1:00:58need a first aid kit. You need a hand sanitizer and wet weibes and
- 1:01:00we know that's in case of novachok attack. You need bottled water, and
- 1:01:06you need non perishable food. And finally you need baby supplies. It doesn't
- 1:01:09specify that you only need those if you have a baby, but you certainly
- 1:01:14need them a part according to this, and they say here, rather than
- 1:01:16buying all the atoms at once, you could just add to your emergency kit
- 1:01:22when you're able and build it up over time. So there you go,
- 1:01:25get ready, get prepared. Emergencies are coming. And well we'll leave it
- 1:01:30there. There's a whole website there for you to go and have a look
- 1:01:35at. Okay, so we will leave it there for today. Thank you
- 1:01:37very much to Charles Videss for joining you joining us, Thank you for watching.
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