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#205 "Pokémon Go in 2025, and predictions for the Pokémon Presents" w/Bryan (@anothervinylpage) · It Just Works!

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Steve Downs, the voice of Master Chief, Spartan one one seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With an incoming message for Ryan Green and all, listen to the podcast, it just works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's finish the fight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chief, out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hello everyone and welcome to theagesworks podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm recording my second episode in the same week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what's happening, but hopefully I'm turning a new leaf.
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[SPEAKER_03]: However, I am really excited for today's episode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As you all know, we have to do a predictions podcast and Brian is back again to join me today as we do a Pokemon Presents predictions for July, twenty second, which is going to be next week, which is awesome because it's actually on my birthday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm hoping Pokemon call a CM because Shadow dropped on my birthday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we'll get into that in a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Brian, how you didn't say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Glad to be here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited for next week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully this is a big event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not a let down like some of them are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, seriously.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Something we've been talking about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we'll get into that in a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because the full one presents is going to be the rest of the episode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I'm so glad you're back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for coming back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a few months now since we got to know you recorded another one this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I released it Tuesday or I'm sorry Monday night Sunday night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I recorded it one with Eric and I ready released it for Wednesday, which is today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I'll release this one on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So kind of just get I'm trying to like backlog the podcast because I have like a fallout episode I got to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to do like a solo caliber two review on the Nintendo Switch two.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then Nintendo Switch two review.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But a part of that I wanted to throw Donkey Kong impressions in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to play Donkey Kong for at least a couple hours before I do the Nintendo Switch II review because that game was built a hundred percent for the Switch II.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Mario Kart World was definitely beginning development for the Switch I, but clearly couldn't be on that platform and then they moved it over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, don't you have to be in a lunch title rather than having
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna have one game at lunch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not counting the welcome tour.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not counting welcome tour.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We pretty much had one game at lunch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: New game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, fast fusions pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that the watch coming?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The fast fusion is like F-Zero and like extreme G and it's like it's a hyper fast racing game, but it's at four K, sixty frames.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a very beautiful looking racing game on the switch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: it's only fifteen bucks it's on the e-shop and I couldn't recommend it enough like I think the levels in the design are beautiful if you played Star Wars potteracer back in the day it's like that if that's more familiar with you again it's like a zero it's just a really cool fucking game that really shows like the fun capabilities of the switch and so for a long title I think it's really good it's again it's only fifteen bucks as well and honestly
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think I've already put three or four hours into it and I still have to do like all the extra game modes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I think I've one more championship to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it's a great game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can take the racers and then like fuse them together to make like hybrid cars or like crafts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's all hovercraft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll add it to the list.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I already have two games coming out this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would add it to the list.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be on sale when it's on sale.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would recommend it because we want to support the developer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they did a really good job with a game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I recommend it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Donkey Kong obviously this week, and I'm really excited for Shadow Labyrinth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that game looks very cool and cheap.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll have to look into it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, obviously we want to talk about the Pokemon presents, but before we do that, it's been about a year now since I've come back to Pokemon Go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've kind of taken a look.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I started at level thirty five when I came back and then now I'm level forty one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I also acquired about seventy plus Chinese since I've been back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... sixty plus uh... which is still pretty good uh... obviously community days like total i think i got like ten so it's not that great uh... but a ton of legendaries i was able to catch up i would just have the zossi and insams into uh... world tour or whatever you want to call it
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[SPEAKER_03]: community or uh you know but two or one of the fuck it was go faster whatever go fast thank you um and then shortly after I came back they did white carum and black carum at the beginning of the year unfortunately I did not get black carum and it's because they changed how they did like the the research
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like if you did the research for the go fest this time around your premiums guaranteed one of the dogs in their hero form.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know that so I wish that I don't know if that was a thing with white cumin like here, but I'm pissed that I missed out on that because I had to do ten raids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm either of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I just thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking like the, yeah, the cure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I didn't so for go fest with some of them to Zasean.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did the research and I got a third hero mode Zasean because I chose his path.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just thought it was going to be like, like, I don't even know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know what it was going to be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then sure enough, they gave you five hundred on the second tier and then the third tier, another five hundred hero candy or the sword.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you're able to get a guaranteed hero form.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, damn, I don't know if they did that for the K-ROMs, because that's kind of frustrating, because I have a shiny lucky K-ROM that I wanted to make a black K-ROM, because I actually like, his shiny better than white K-ROMs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, Pokemon Go, I gotta say, besides like, unfortunately, them charging so much for remote raids, and then just again, just not having matchmaking on raids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Other than that, the game is pretty remarkable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In terms of just, if you wanna kill like a couple of minutes,
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[SPEAKER_03]: you're out and about and you want to check it like the game is so much fun I've had like the best time being back obviously it's fun for us because we play with our family and obviously friends it's just a great game but Brian you have like never truly stopped as in like you might have taken a break but you never really like gave up on it or anything like that like the rest of us besides you Chris and Britain actually
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do you feel about the game today where you're sitting versus like, what it could be, essentially?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's all about the events.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's really good events that really get me engaged, such as like, community today or go fast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, if there's not a major event going on, like, I'll do my daily catch a couple times during the day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll maybe shine and check a couple things, but I won't play, but I've noticed they do event after event after, like, back to back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how they keep people engaged now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still have fun with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's the easiest way in all of Pokemon to get Chinese and you can transfer them to home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a big reason why I personally never stopped, especially community today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can go out and walk around for an hour and get tons of Chinese.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you care about like the main line game way more, you can send them to the main line game and do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's just, yeah, it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm having fun with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't put money into it like I used to because I used to put some money into the game, but I I buy remotes here and there, but I hardly ever buy like the research tickets last minute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I decided to do the GoFest ticket just because it was, yeah, I just wanted to get some Chinese for that day and I did pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I got like
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[SPEAKER_03]: ten to fifteen that day but it still keeps me engaged i'd never fully fully fully fallen off the game so i mean that's good i mean that's a good sign that they're doing something right yeah i would say it is kind of tough so like not spend money because i'm trying to catch up and so now that we have the ability to do remote raids which wasn't around when i quit um... it has been fun to like try to catch up on like certain megas certain legendaries um...
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I would say, but while it's fun, that's also a downside because, again, you have to spend money to essentially get good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And for me, I care about the battles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I love being able to defeat Team Rocket and like two fucking button presses on each Pokemon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I have a, I think like my top, twelve Pokemon are almost four stars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, not that that's impressive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do like battling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like having really powerful Pokemon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know there's just something really fun and desirable about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that's like something that's kept me involved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And while it may seem like an overload, I do think the constant event thing going on is actually pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The only thing I would say is if you're constantly buying tickets, that would probably be a bad idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even they're only like one or two dollars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess, you know, depending on how you feel about it, it's not that bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But as far as monetization goes for a mobile game, honestly, it's not overly egregious.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just the remote raids I would say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we just talked about it before hitting record that you're looking forward to to rationalization whenever it comes inevitably to Pokemon Go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I agree, I still think it's a fun mechanic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just like the idea of all mechanics being in one game like champions, which we'll talk about a little bit later, but then also Pokemon Go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't mind it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We do know that Paradox Pokemon are now going to be coming to Pokemon Go, which I think is great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Paradox Pokemon are really popular in Scarland Violet, the TCG, and then now they'll be popular again in Pokemon Go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're just really cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: a magic imaginative versions of existing Pokemon that I think are, you know, at least the ancient ones are really well done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The features of ones.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I almost hate all of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I like her ride.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are lazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are extremely lazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, they're, I don't even know if they're lazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're just like, I just don't like robots.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't just robots.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like when we talk about cyberpunk, like I don't like humans being synthetic or like oh my arms cut off and now I'm gonna or like I'm gonna or I have my arm and I'm gonna put a bunch of robots at it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't like it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not my thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I do like Mariah Dawn, technically who's a feature Pokemon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I'm excited to see what happens the Pokemon Go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that Niantic got bought out, and then someone else was put in charge, and I'm forgetting the name of the company right now, but they are an Nintendo affiliated company.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, scopely, scopely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm hoping that we see some changes probably, I guess next year, since nothing's really changed yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't seem like
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have any plans to change the formula that Niantic was really running with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe the transition hasn't happened yet, where scope please got full development control.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But only major change they've done is for the remote raids that you can use them at.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shadow raids and you can use them at what's the other one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Juggie Antimax raids or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dynamics raids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they raised the limit because I don't remember how many did raise the limit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're only supposed to you're only able to do five back in a day and now you can do up to ten or more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then if there's an event going on, I can do like ninety nine, they don't care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think during events, they would change it, but when it wasn't an event, they were pretty strict.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think all those changes we just mentioned are pretty much by scope, please.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I'm excited to see what happens in the book one go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, obviously that will be a part of the book one presents which we can get into now, but I just wanted to bring it up because if, you know, I wanted to speak on it since I was someone who took like a two and a half year break, like a pretty solid honestly three or four year break actually.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As someone who took that long of a break, if you're listening, I do recommend it if you're just looking to have fun, is all the Hissoui and Pokemon are in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's just so many Pokemon that are in it, so many cool Chinese you can get.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As Brian said, which is, again, a really good point, something I don't think about, which I wish I did more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: is if you get a shiny shitty shiny and you can't trade it with anyone send it to home and then you can with all the new Pokemon games you can just reset its stats and they get a badass Pokemon so just something to keep in mind if you want it for a fun playthrough
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but yeah, we'll move into the Pokemon presents.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan, as we always do, we talk about what we think is going to happen, what we hope is going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's start off with the obvious.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We do know that there's going to be a cafe remix, Pokemon Masters EX, Pokemon Go, Pokemon Concierge, Pokemon Sleep that just celebrate it's two year anniversary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's most of what we look at once.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll still go and is that still a thing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, Pokemon unite.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that will obviously be there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, is there anything, do you even do any of that stuff?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, welcome on you, Knight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it gets a switch to upgrade, which I actually might be announced on Tuesday now that I think about it would be pretty sick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I stopped playing United.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I played it for maybe a few weeks and I was going to read down loaded on my Switch and I'm like, I'm never going to play this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, no, I don't think I'll read download that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to have to take something really cool for me to consider it and same with Pokemon Master sex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That one, I don't even, I might have played that for a day or two because I remember you telling me when that came out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was shit done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't you remember what the like kind of gameplay it was it all I just remember the train was like a three v three like rock paper scissors kind of thing It sounds great I don't know it was a pretty decent game for a while and then they updated too much and I was like I can't do this and I already wasted too much money on it
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now as far as it's enough for sure that we're going to see concierge like like I said let me so I like concierge it was an easy one night watch because they're all short and there's only a couple episodes but that's cool if that comes back you didn't watch it you said other than one or two maybe that's right me out that's right it was cool me out that's right um RIP on me um yeah and I know that
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Pokemon Unite, I just think needs a PvE mode because the gameplay is actually really fucking good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just if you don't like League of Legends, if you don't like Dota, you don't like the lane type of, you know, these games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not for you, but if there was like a PvE element or even like a campaign of sorts, I could see so many people loving the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think at that point you would have to charge for it, not the PvE mode, but the campaign.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It does suck that it's like a complete free-to-play game because I feel like there could have been something else more there that have a lot of fun with instead of making it spin off of the same gameplay elements.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then Pokemon Master X, I'm going to read down later right now just because I want to see what it looks like then but I think I downloaded it last year and it's just kind of whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: cafe remake site never had any interest in but I know clearly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be somewhat popular because they keep they've been supporting it for like four or five years now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think and I think Master ZX or Master's sex is also pretty pretty far in there too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have all the achievements for Pokemon Master ZX is ten achievements and I got them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember when the game came out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pokemon sleep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I tried but then you have to have the app open because I was like oh well my phone's always next to me I might as well like play it I guess and I think I saw like shining to a dollar something I was like I'm locked in and then I tried to put on my music because I like to listen to music when I sleep and it wouldn't let me and I was like well this is gay
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I tried for like a week or two, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my phone's old already as it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was already getting warm and I'm like, I don't want to shit the blow in the middle of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think my phone got warm too or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I tried it one night and I was like, this is stupid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, pretty much ruined escape.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we talked about all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... unite will probably get a switch to update if it doesn't i'll be shocked but speaking of like switch to and obviously our mobile phones pokemon champions will hopefully get some type of official gameplay trailer the showcases like the actual ui the menus the game itself and hopefully a release date which i think could also get a shadow drop
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[SPEAKER_03]: with Legends EA coming out October, sixteenth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't really make sense to me for them to push off champions until later in the year because they also Nintendo also has Metroid Prime four coming out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like you wouldn't really want to stack all that together because then you're just cannibalizing your own for Sparity IPs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It could release it early next year, possibly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they said it's supposed to come out this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, did they?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm supposed to come out this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I thought it was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I never played Pokemon showdown.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I like the idea of having an official one where it's just battling because I would like to get good at battling again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was fun to shit when I was doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What'd you say?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You'd like to get good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like to get good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it'd be cool to play this game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It seems interesting to see all the mechanics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think even Zebo's were shown in the trailer weren't they?
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18:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I want to see what happens with that.
18:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree though.
18:05
[SPEAKER_03]: It would be cool to have a battle simulator, something that maybe like this could be like what they use for now, the VGC tournaments, which I think is genius because you can just have all these mechanics combined to truly elevate the gameplay.
18:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just think it would, I don't know, I would love to see like what teams people come up with because so many Pokemon were great with their Z moves.
18:27
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, obviously the primal coyote or in grout on were almost unbeatable like grout on has probably the best competitive history of any Pokemon and it would just be cool to see like what people come up with and then I personally obviously like the mega charzards it'd be cool to like use a son team again with fucking primal grout on mega charzard and then like a Z move fucking in center or I don't know who knows
18:50
[SPEAKER_03]: But I am excited to play champions.
18:52
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.
18:53
[SPEAKER_03]: There is no official release it on that.
18:54
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully we get one on Tuesday or a shadow drop again.
18:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Brian, what's next for you?
19:00
[SPEAKER_03]: We could save Legends EA for the last.
19:01
[SPEAKER_03]: We already know what's going to happen for sure.
19:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe an update on the Netflix show because I feel like that got announced like a decent amount of time ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, maybe not in a full blown trailer, but an update maybe.
19:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think a release date for a trailer or the release date for the first season would be cool.
19:20
[SPEAKER_03]: And then maybe like a detective Pikachu, too, or something else for a movie, I think Pokemon and still kind of untapped that potential.
19:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, my eyebrows made a billion dollars.
19:33
[SPEAKER_03]: So they could just do an animated movie that's like taken seriously.
19:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Not ash, it could be red, it could be
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cynthia, I just feel like there's something that could be done there with DreamWorks and make something happen.
19:45
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'd love to see some kind of announcement on that end.
19:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And then our favorite thing to talk about every single time there's an antenna direct book one presents
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[SPEAKER_03]: anything at all, even just waking up in the morning, wishing for it.
19:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Is the Pokemon Classics Collection still waiting on this?
20:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I still, and I'm going to say this probably every time.
20:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll probably say this, honestly, after Tuesday, I don't understand why there's a delay on this.
20:12
[SPEAKER_03]: If they're waiting until the thirtieth anniversary, I get it, at least announce it then, because
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[SPEAKER_03]: To me, it's kind of stupid to not do this.
20:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you have Pokemon stadium one into you, but you got Colosseum and Xigila darkness.
20:29
[SPEAKER_03]: We have champions coming out.
20:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, and like you said at lunch, and but go ahead and tell me what you're saying at lunch about champions, because I think it's a really cool idea.
20:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was just thinking how there's other games where they have games inside games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For example, Fortnite has like, guitar hero in it.
20:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, what if with Pokemon champions, they have a way to, you unlock games and you can go play Pokemon Red and you can play it within of champions and you can do that with the first three gems maybe, but I just saw that was an interesting idea, work around for them to, and they can even monitor, I can't say that.
21:06
[SPEAKER_02]: We're monetizing it.
21:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they can monetize it, and I'm not saying they should, but they easily could.
21:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And that way they can find a way to make money off of it without pissing people off, and it's not on NSO.
21:18
[SPEAKER_02]: People are gonna be pissed, it's not on an NSO anyway.
21:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just thought that was an interesting idea.
21:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, and I just, you know, with all these games coming out, and the potential compatibility, but let it alone, the classics collection have it, and it's own UI, like Master Chief Collection, and Super Mario three D all stars.
21:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Rare replay, which that'd be cool if that was on the switch.
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been one of that on the switch for years.
21:42
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a really rare game now.
21:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it is, well besides Game Pass, I think the physical copy's been rare.
21:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I don't know why they don't do this.
21:54
[SPEAKER_03]: You got the soundtracks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, you got the UI.
21:56
[SPEAKER_03]: You got the ability to trade online, battle online.
21:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You would bring back a whole era of battling that people didn't even get to experience and stories that people got to not experience.
22:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's so many new fans out there that they know what fire readily free is.
22:09
[SPEAKER_03]: They know what Ruby Sapphire Emerald is and gold and silver and crystal.
22:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is a great opportunity to bring back the first regions.
22:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's how I would do it.
22:18
[SPEAKER_02]: if they did put out it like physical copy and it cost money and there's somewhere more like a month ago about them releasing and volumes and then eventually it's gonna be a big collector set.
22:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think a lot of people would be upset that they're charging for when people are already paying for an SO subscription?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like maybe they're going back and forth
22:42
[SPEAKER_03]: They want to make money off of it, but they can't because they have NSO, they have like, but they can make money off of it.
22:48
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's like, three DL stars, which we also had NSO for, because now we have the GameCube and there's no sunshine on that yet.
22:55
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's coming though, it is coming, but I'm saying like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: If they do the same thing, though, where it's like, it's got a built-in UI exclusively built for this package.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can listen to the soundtracks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can scroll through the game's willingly, and they're slightly updated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So slightly updated would be online battling and trading.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mystery gives available.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Those kind of features, and they would work better than NSO because for whatever reason NSO just still doesn't work great till this day.
23:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Even the game keep online.
23:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:25
[SPEAKER_03]: That is a completely different package, and I think people would, they would still be bad here.
23:28
[SPEAKER_03]: There's always gonna be people mad, but I think people would be more willing to be like, okay, I'll pick it up.
23:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, did, no matter what.
23:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyone who bitch is about it's gonna pick it up.
23:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:39
[SPEAKER_02]: What if they did put it on NSO, but obviously it's a tone app, but outside of NSO, if you wanna buy a physical copy, you could buy it.
23:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So that way they can still make money, but then if you're already paying for his subscription, you could still pay.
23:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it's just like the Mario Kart DLC and animal crossing DLC.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Those expansion passes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yes, you have an SO, you can get it for free, but if you want to pay for it with the game and have a complete package, you can do that too.
24:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I would, if they had it all in one cart, like a cart, like we talk about, I'd buy it for sure, physically.
24:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you heard about a lot of people have been saying over the last couple of years?
24:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember what year it was.
24:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say it was around seven, eight years ago.
24:21
[SPEAKER_02]: There was some law that passed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you have any sort of gambling at all in your video game, that it has to be rated M. And the reason they can't re-release Jen one through three is because of the slot machines, if they were to re-release it now, it would have to be rated M. Not saying I agree with that, but have you heard about that?
24:40
[SPEAKER_03]: So, that's not true at all.
24:42
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actual loot boxes because it's a form of gambling that was banned.
24:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard if there was any sort of representation of gambling in a video game it has to be rated in.
24:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't heard that.
24:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it could be, it could be true.
24:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't know.
25:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't play.
25:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with that.
25:01
[SPEAKER_02]: But I've heard a lot of people say that in the last couple of years.
25:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They're saying that's the reason it's never coming to switch.
25:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, they could find some sort of work around if they really wanted to.
25:10
[SPEAKER_02]: If that was the issue, they could find some sort of work arounds.
25:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
25:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so it looks like if a game has a gambling element, it may be rated.
25:23
[SPEAKER_03]: It may be rated, but also not recommended.
25:26
[SPEAKER_03]: They're fine.
25:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
25:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've seen like videos about how it's never gonna happen and no, it has nothing to do with that and the main the reason why that passed anyways in Europe and Mainly Europe and so they basically guarded it because of the player base It's because the loot boxes were a digital form of gambling that people you know people's kids were using that credit cards on and they're like dude fuck this
25:52
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know, we'll see.
25:53
[SPEAKER_03]: We've only been asking for that for about four, and you're five years now, honestly, feels like, um, you can play these things on.
26:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You could play these games on, like, phones, emulators.
26:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You could play it.
26:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just want them on my switch.
26:07
[SPEAKER_02]: People are always like, just emulate.
26:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a easy, like, I was like, I mean, I can, and I have, but why can't you put it on the console that I play all the time?
26:17
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I agree.
26:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I love emulation and I love what people have done with their custom games and you know, I have the epilogue GB operator so I can take my ROM that's inside my cartridge and put it on my computer which is how I play sometimes.
26:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
26:30
[SPEAKER_03]: It's great and successful.
26:32
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm right.
26:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm right there with you.
26:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I want it on my official console.
26:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I want it officially released on my console because everything else is there.
26:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the fact that I have the in sixty four the fact that I'm gonna have my favorite Gamecube game of all time and I already have one of my favorite fighting game of all time because it's so clever to like the fact that I can have Mario Kart eight Mario Kart world Mario Kart sixty four all these Pokemon games and all these Mario games now I'm doggy Combinanza all in like a switch to is fucking cool man like I don't I don't need an emulator already got right here
27:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm right there with you on that like I have got nothing against the emulation It's just that even though like in a so is emulation I just mean I would like it all done officially like I love having that But yeah, we'll see what happens with that next up is something I've already said and I've already alluded to before
27:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Pokemon call a CM just gets shadow dropped on Tuesday.
27:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It makes sense to me in Nintendo when they release like a new console on NSO.
27:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Usually they do a game a month at the very beginning of July right before July fourth we got Mario strikers on the second.
27:38
[SPEAKER_03]: However, twenty second, almost at the end of the month, I can see them shadow dropping Pokemon call a CM.
27:44
[SPEAKER_03]: The game cube has a massive catalog that they can take advantage of just like the N-Sixie four.
27:49
[SPEAKER_03]: So I can see them
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[SPEAKER_03]: like celebrating this presents and getting more install days on a bigger install base on their switch shoes with this program.
27:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it would make sense to me to launch call a CM because there's someone out there and probably thousands who would buy the service if they don't have it yet, the expansion pack service because of that game.
28:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Because right now, if you wanted to go buy it without emulating it, it's about three hundred dollars for the console in the game and memory cards on that.
28:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never played either of those games so I'm really excited about those ones.
28:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been trying to emulate them for years, but there's always issues with those two games in particular, and it's like visual issues, so I can't really get immersed into it.
28:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited for them to come out officially, like I really am.
28:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like ex-y guild of darkness is fine.
28:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot of people kind of blow that game up too much in my opinion.
28:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think ex-y guild of dark, I'm sorry.
28:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Pokemon call CM is better because the story is better.
28:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the main character more starting off with embryon and espion is badass.
28:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the shadow Pokemon and the way the game design is is better.
28:57
[SPEAKER_03]: But ex-y guild darkness is great too.
28:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean shadow is badass.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um,
29:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm excited for people to play those games.
29:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think it's going to be tough for a lot of people to play them because like leveling up isn't really necessarily great.
29:12
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't get a ton of money to buy items.
29:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty tough.
29:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say as opposed to the new games.
29:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Call the seams the first one, right?
29:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And then XD?
29:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
29:22
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my thought, okay.
29:24
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think you're going to love them.
29:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I think being able to play on handheld at whatever fidelity they run at is going to be pretty remarkable.
29:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Before we jump in the legends EA's or anything else you think is going to happen that we haven't talked about yet.
29:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Any Hail Mary is you want to throw out there in case you're right.
29:42
[SPEAKER_02]: New Pokemon snap or Pokemon snap switch to addition and you get new levels.
29:49
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be my random guess.
29:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, a Pokemon snap to would be switch to addition would be pretty insane.
29:57
[SPEAKER_03]: That game was gorgeous, bro.
29:58
[SPEAKER_03]: And if if it ran at sixty frames four k holy shit.
30:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
30:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I finished it.
30:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually have it here.
30:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't finish it either, but yeah, it was beautiful.
30:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It was really like a great looking game.
30:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
30:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, even the DLC was like insane.
30:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, not there was DLC.
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't it a little tiny, like little.
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot what it was.
30:17
[SPEAKER_03]: But they added enough Pokemon that were in like these different areas.
30:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I could be wrong.
30:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's not for alligator, but you see someone underwater and it just looks gorgeous.
30:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know my Ganym's in it.
30:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah.
30:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
30:31
[SPEAKER_03]: That'd be cool.
30:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, oh, that's what I was going to say, Brian.
30:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, just to throw it in there with Brian, I think legends, Arquise, Sword and Shield, Pokemon, Pokemon tournament.
30:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I think all the pre-existing games she gets switched to, upgrades for free, especially do their performance.
30:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm kind of hoping that's just like an Nintendo Switch to thing all around.
30:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why they haven't made that clear.
30:54
[SPEAKER_03]: because that was like my favorite thing about Xbox Series X. It's like, hey, all these games that, you know, they ran okay.
31:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Like now they're gonna run like they should, just like a super computer.
31:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And it felt great to get that console and place so many older games that just ran just vastly better because of it.
31:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're super, they really think they would hold off on doing it on that because they want people to focus on generation nine right now.
31:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I don't know.
31:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, generation nine's already kind of have it today.
31:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it would make more sense to do it for certain shields and Legends Arquise because there's still people who haven't played them yet.
31:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I can play it like a better fidelity.
31:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Legends Arquise at sixty frames, like God damn, I'd love to see that.
31:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I would go back to that game.
31:39
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a good time.
31:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would love to replay it.
31:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm, I need to keep playing a violet because I never finished it.
31:46
[SPEAKER_03]: So I waited for the upgrade.
31:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, so we'll talk about legends, EA now.
31:52
[SPEAKER_03]: The biggest thing I'm hoping for is make a fralligator, just the mega starters.
31:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It's be honest with you.
32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they'll show the starters, but I do think they'll show a mega.
32:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just gonna throw my guess out there.
32:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be a mega dragon egg.
32:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
32:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, mega dragon egg.
32:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'd be cool.
32:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't know if I lost you there.
32:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Hello.
32:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you hear me?
32:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, this is podcasting, that is finest.
32:28
[SPEAKER_03]: It is, this is how it goes.
32:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
32:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm here.
32:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you heard me the whole time?
32:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard you the whole time.
32:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's my connection.
32:36
[SPEAKER_03]: See, how is my internet connection unstable?
32:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's like the best internet you could fucking pay for.
32:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I thought it was me because mine went down a couple of times yesterday, but it was only for like five seconds.
32:44
[SPEAKER_03]: No, apparently it's me.
32:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't fucking know.
32:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I worry about that later.
32:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Um,
32:51
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the last thing you heard me talking about Dragonite?
32:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then I was saying like, yeah, I think Mega Dragonite would be cool and I said I just made it up to kill the noise, but it would be cool if they released a surprise demo on Tuesday.
33:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a tech demo.
33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Have they ever done a demo for like a major Pokemon game?
33:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, they did in person demos for all the main games and then they did an online demo for a main player.
33:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Sun and Moon, I remember that when I downloaded that one.
33:18
[SPEAKER_03]: So sun and moon, and I'll make a Ruby an office at fire.
33:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Which was cool because the Ruby and Sapphire thing was like it's own little content.
33:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't even in your own game.
33:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just I'm really excited to know more about like where the games taking place because obviously we know it's taking place in Lumio City, but like
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see more of it because we haven't seen that much.
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen on top of buildings, but like, where do you catch Pokemon?
33:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're probably going to, do you think you'll go in the sewers, maybe?
33:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Paris does have, you know, the trips, right?
33:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hoping that there's a whole underground just like tears of the kingdom that's like kind of mind blowing.
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see where we're playing.
33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of, I don't understand because the game's not out.
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of get what they're going with with the new battle style where you move around.
34:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that makes sense, but I don't know.
34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to know more about where the game is.
34:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't say, I got to be honest.
34:14
[SPEAKER_03]: My legends, EA predictions are going to be fulfilled because I'm right there with you, man.
34:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to know what the fuck's going on.
34:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to see what the game is.
34:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Just more than we've seen already.
34:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a underground?
34:25
[SPEAKER_03]: is there some secrets to Lumionos that makes it more than just a city like I want to see on that.
34:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they didn't tell us as that much when Legends RC came out as far as story.
34:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I know they told us nothing and they showed us parts of the map, but I'm trying to I mean, it's it's different.
34:41
[SPEAKER_02]: This one's in a city and that one was all like in mountains and stuff.
34:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.
34:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we haven't heard a lot about this game, but we didn't hear a lot about RC inside it.
34:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
34:55
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
34:56
[SPEAKER_03]: We literally didn't know about the Sui and starters and I don't think it's like the week it came out.
35:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, it's a week.
35:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I remember when our origin, Lucia and Pauki Elite didn't even believe it was real because they look so fucking ugly.
35:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was a blurry like pixel photo and I'm like ain't no way.
35:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I did.
35:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw the whole thing and I still couldn't believe it.
35:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
35:15
[SPEAKER_02]: How many new megas do you think they'll be?
35:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping for at least.
35:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I think sixteen.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it would be cool.
35:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna say at least I hope we get at least ten, but the way you're gonna be the starters so that would only be seven so it has to be at least what you said.
35:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know.
35:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking forward to it.
35:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think the game taking place in a city is a little bit of a detriment.
35:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's impressive at all.
35:39
[SPEAKER_02]: because it's it's a reason to be concerned but they haven't showed us enough they told us it takes place in one city or they told us it takes place in one city and then people are like what the fuck they should have showed us more like hey no need to be worried this city's like a massive yeah because I feel like this gameplay we see is like the same part to the same like the same part of the city yeah and the the problem for me though regardless of whether or not the city's bigger not
36:05
[SPEAKER_03]: is my favorite thing about Pokemon is like when you go to different biomes and locations and volcanoes as the sea and ho and you know the forest and jodo and it's just like I don't know it sucks that we're not going to get that I'm kind of bummed out about it.
36:24
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to make your predictions for the typings for the mega-evolutions for the starters?
36:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, I'm very convinced that it's uh, mechanisms, uh, grass fairy.
36:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, cause the violators want to reckon.
36:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, and more was, uh, fire.
36:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, fire steel.
36:48
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
36:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Because every, so basically what they did with legends, Arquise is every starter had a sub-typing that was strong against each other.
36:59
[SPEAKER_02]: or the most fighting ends.
37:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, so it's so what's his face was grass fighting?
37:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I'm sorry, every starter had a double effectiveness against their opponent.
37:13
[SPEAKER_03]: So, typhlosion is like completely dominant over dissidue I, and Samarot is watered dark type, which is dominant over typhlosion, because water and go are firing ghosts.
37:24
[SPEAKER_03]: So, if it's grass dragon, that means it's double effective against fralligator, which would be water, I'm sorry, in grass fairy, which is versus water dragon.
37:32
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Mbor at that point would be,
37:37
[SPEAKER_03]: while he could be his fire dragon.
37:38
[SPEAKER_03]: See, that's where it doesn't make sense.
37:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Because dragons only go against dragon.
37:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Ice is good against dragon.
37:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but he's not going to be, well, no, no, no.
37:47
[SPEAKER_03]: So emboer would be another typing that's weak against dragon.
37:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine it fire, I said.
37:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
37:55
[SPEAKER_02]: That would never happen.
37:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So nothing's weak against dragon besides dragon.
37:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Or I'm sorry, dragons only strongest against dragon.
38:02
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no other typing and stronger against.
38:06
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no no you're right.
38:08
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just it's just effective against everything else and then not very effective against steel and ferry.
38:15
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.
38:16
[SPEAKER_03]: And boarder just might be fire fighting still.
38:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh Lord.
38:20
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm hoping his mega saves.
38:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate and more so much.
38:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I like his shiny his shiny stunning.
38:27
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm so proud.
38:28
[SPEAKER_03]: He's out there.
38:29
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not my favorite.
38:30
[SPEAKER_03]: He's middle of the road.
38:31
[SPEAKER_03]: He's middle of the road.
38:32
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not my least favorite.
38:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Del Fox takes the cake or no.
38:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Cinder ace.
38:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate Cinder ace so much.
38:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that whole line kind of sucks.
38:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not bad.
38:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Like reboot reboots cool.
38:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the name.
38:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I like how like I don't know.
38:48
[SPEAKER_03]: He's I don't know.
38:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I like reboot.
38:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You shut your fucking mouth.
38:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate the last stage.
38:55
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, you don't like Samurai?
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it looks nothing like Oshoa.
38:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like an entirely different fucking animal.
39:02
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
39:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like by the hell.
39:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I like Oshoa.
39:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I like Samurai a lot.
39:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But it is annoying, right?
39:09
[SPEAKER_03]: It goes from bipedal to fucking four legs.
39:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And then tape it goes from four legs to pignight.
39:15
[SPEAKER_03]: He's fucking bipedal.
39:16
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, can we just, like, or, like, litton and then, uh, tarot Torah cat into incinerator.
39:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, can you just commit?
39:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, who doesn't want a fucking fire cat starter on all four legs?
39:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it just would have been nice.
39:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
39:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I get the wrestling part.
39:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I know incinerators, like, a fucking badass because of intimidate.
39:37
[SPEAKER_03]: But
39:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Damn it.
39:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the worst starter of all of them is the stupid fucking pop Leo.
39:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the stupid circus seal.
39:52
[SPEAKER_03]: For me, whatever, fucking.
39:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's pretty bad to you.
39:54
[SPEAKER_03]: It took me a second.
39:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Why could I not remember what Prima Reno would ever.
39:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Prima Reno, Prima Reno or something like that.
40:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Prima Reno.
40:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, what was it last generation?
40:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I hated every single one of the final stages of the class of all sucks.
40:06
[SPEAKER_02]: The duck.
40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: What was the other one?
40:10
[SPEAKER_02]: The cat.
40:11
[SPEAKER_02]: You said you don't mind the cat.
40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like.
40:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't mind the cat at all because I think they still did a pretty good job with the design.
40:18
[SPEAKER_03]: What was the other one?
40:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but that goes against my whole bipedal four leg thing.
40:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no.
40:24
[SPEAKER_02]: If what quote goes not terrible, the whole line's pretty good.
40:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
40:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm super biased.
40:29
[SPEAKER_03]: You got me a firecrack like Simon the fuck up.
40:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
40:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And Skeleton is a beast.
40:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he's literally like he's literally a fucking beast.
40:37
[SPEAKER_03]: And his unique move torch song, Whitley raises his special attack every time he use it.
40:41
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
40:42
[SPEAKER_03]: That's cool.
40:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's awesome.
40:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Not the yellow bro.
40:45
[SPEAKER_02]: What else do we want to see?
40:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought there was so much more I wanted to see, but just give me the damn ports.
40:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just just show me the game.
40:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, don't be afraid to show it.
40:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, let's do this.
40:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Switch two's out.
40:57
[SPEAKER_03]: We finally have a Pokemon game that's like launching at a good quality and technical performance.
41:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Should at least shadow drop call a CM give us release date for champions and more footage of that.
41:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Give us a netflix show.
41:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd love to see what they do with that.
41:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're going to shadow drop Colosseum.
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to give us a date and it's going to be like in a week.
41:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Because usually when they have announced, like stuff coming to NSO, it's like coming next week, coming next week.
41:27
[SPEAKER_03]: But you got to remember, they just launched a new console.
41:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is a great way to continue those crazy sales from Mario Kart Donkey Kong.
41:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And now you got one of the most popular spin-offs in Pokemon history.
41:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
41:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a great way to sell memberships.
41:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's true.
41:44
[SPEAKER_03]: What we'll see.
41:45
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, man, that's pretty much it.
41:46
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all we got today.
41:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Brian, thank you so much for being on.
41:51
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll have to do a follow up podcast.
41:53
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll do it the twenty-third, or maybe the day of.
41:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what we're doing yet, but we're going to make sure and follow up on this, because I feel like we're either going to be like really happy or just really fucking disappointed.
42:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, it always disappointed.
42:05
[SPEAKER_02]: If we're disappointed, you won't see a podcast and you'll know because that's usually what happens with both an intended or X and Pokemon presents.
42:12
[SPEAKER_02]: We call each other later that day and we're like, that sucks.
42:15
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have to do a podcast.
42:16
[SPEAKER_03]: One, I know the last direct before the switch to shit was utterly abysmal.
42:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me just say, yeah, you know, follow up on that.
42:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I know we've done it like handful of times over the years.
42:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so but hopefully this one there's a follow up because I do think there's potential for us to be able to talk about stuff I think no matter what whether we like it or we don't there's definitely going to be a legends EA follow up from that presents Yeah, thank you so much for being on thank you guys for listening to the podcast and we'll see you on the next episode.
42:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Peace.
42:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.
42:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Have a beautiful time