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What If?... Jadarian Price and the O-Line Heat Up in the Desert · Sea Hawkers Podcast: for Seattle Seahawks fans

• 0:09
  Clinton: Welcome in.
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  Welcome in.
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  Welcome, friends, to the newest edition of Sea Hawkers: What If, the most unique
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  Seahawks preview show in the multiverse.
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  I am joined by my good buddy, Mr.
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  Brandan.
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  Brandan, we are also joined, of course…
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  Brandan, I forgot your last name there for a second.
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  I, I don't know why.
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  Yeah, it doesn't…
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  It's not important.
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  I- it's only been, like, nine years.
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  Brandan Schulze.
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  I was like, "Brandan Brandan."
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  Yeah.
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  Back-to-back, so.
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  Brandan, yeah.
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  This is going great so far.
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  That's a cool name, Brandan Brandan.
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  Yeah.
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  Brandan Brandan, double Brandons.
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  I'm thinking about
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  Brandan: changing it.
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  Clinton: Maybe an A and then an O, so people will be like, "Well, what
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  are you, which one's which now?"
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  Which one's
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  Brandan: which?
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  Nobody
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  Clinton: knows.
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  Yeah.
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  We're off the rails early.
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  I love it.
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  Getting us back on the rails, of course, is the protector of this multiverse, Mr.
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  Phil Lydick.
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  And boys, we are ready for week two for this Seahawks going to the desert.
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  They're wearing their rival uniforms, which is kinda cute.
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  And our 1 and 0 Seahawks have to take on a seemingly competent
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  1 and 0 Arizona Cardinals.
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  Brandan, how you feeling about this matchup that maybe they're okay?
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  Brandan: I…
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  You know, it's funny.
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  I…
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  Cardinals fans are so mistake- I've never seen them so confident
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  after just a week one win, and maybe it's because week one wins are rare.
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  I don't know, I haven't looked it up.
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  But, listening to Cardinals fans this week has been entertaining, because
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  y- you- they beat a, you know, fringe playoff team from last year, and all
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  of a sudden they have th- these big ideas of, "Oh, hey, maybe, maybe fans
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  will show up to the game this week.
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  the…
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  And we're playing the Seahawks.
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  Th- this is gonna be fun, because there might actually be fans at the stadium"
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  Phil: Well, the thing about people that believe in week one
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  is they're the type of people that salesmen should look for.
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  'Cause people that believe in week one of NFL things will believe anything.
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  They're the most gullible people in the world.
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  We all know if we've been a fan for a period of time, week one is
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  the biggest liar in all of America.
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  So- Phil
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  Brandan: Phil, the Rams are going to
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  Clinton: 0-17.
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  Phil: Okay, what can I sell you, Brandan?
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  It's true.
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  What can I sell you?
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  Clinton: Absolutely true.
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  So we're gonna get into all of it.
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  We will…
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  So we're, we're diving right in, so we, we might as well not delay.
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  And w- part of What If is we do this delicious little, you know, preview that
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  we call Previously with The Protector, where if you didn't watch Cardinals
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  Chargers, and, you know, why would you, we're gonna run through it real quick.
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  So Mr.
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  Phil will take us through this, then we're gonna hear our theme, then we're
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  gonna go through six questions that Mr.
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  Phil has concocted, that we do not know what they are, so we're gonna answer live.
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  And if you wanna play along live while, while you're watching the recording
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  put your answers as comments live, because Brandan and I, we shouldn't
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  be the only two people tap dancing, though we're gonna do our best.
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  But Phil, the Cardinals, they win this game going away.
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  What did you see?
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  Phil: Well, I did watch it.
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  It was the only game on that mattered for us in the NFC West.
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  And it was a fascinating, interesting game.
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  I kind of was hoping that the Chargers might actually be good this
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  year, except for when we play them.
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  I kinda was hoping they'd be good when they play the other teams in
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  the NFC West, but they sure weren't.
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  They…
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  Week one, if week one says anything about a team, it says the
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  Chargers have a long ways to go.
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  I think they will improve, but they looked pretty poor in this one.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  the third down was awful.
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  They could not control the clock because for some reason
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  they weren't running the ball.
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  the turnovers were a problem for them.
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  The Cardinals weren't all-dominating, but they definitely dominated the, the
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  takeaways and they kept the ball moving.
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  The yards, I mean, they, they outr- they out-yarded them by 125.
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  Wow.
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  The time of possession was 15 minutes different, if you watched that game.
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  Brissett looked, Like a bottom-end starter- Okay
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  just like our top-end backup.
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  I think there's, there's some similarity there.
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  He was, he's pretty careful with the ball.
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  He's good at getting completions, when he's not being pressured.
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  he didn't have a ton of pressure, so that made it pretty easy for him.
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  What'd you guys see when you watched this particular match up, Brandan?
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  Brandan: Well, it's interesting because you have the turnover
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  differential, two takeaways.
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  It, it was almost- Giveaway… worse than that because they had the
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  fumble, they had the interception-
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  Phil: Yeah
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  … Brandan: but they turned it over on downs.
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  well, and they had the blocked punt, so- Yeah, that's
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  true… the, there was that, that I think counts as a takeaway.
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  And then- It did, yeah… yeah, the, the turnovers on downs which, yeah, one
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  two, three, and four if you count the blocked punt being a turnover on downs.
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  So it was really, even though it shows two turnovers- Yeah, it was
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  more… it was more like six.
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  Phil: Yeah, it was bad.
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  Brandan: And that's no way to win a football game.
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  Yeah.
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  Especially when you have a blocked punt that is right in the, in front of
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  your end zone, and that's how they get the, the, the one- the first touchdown
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  drive by the Cardinals was legit.
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  Yeah.
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  But, and I mean, the second touchdown was legit, it
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  was just, it only took them three yards to get in the end zone.
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  Phil: Line of scrimmage advantage was all about the Cardinals throughout this.
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  They looked like they were ready to play, and the, the s- the trenches
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  of the Chargers weren't there really.
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  It was pretty embarrassing.
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  Clinton: Yeah, I think that was the part that stood out for me the most besides
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  the turnovers that Brandan's pointing to.
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  I mean, it was only a two-point game when that, when that punt gets blocked.
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  As bad as the Chargers are playing, it's a two-point game.
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  And then they get the blocked punt and they walk in and
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  basically get in the end zone.
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  And- And it
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  Brandan: shouldn't have been a two-point game because if they would've
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  just taken the field goal at the end of the first half, they would've- Oh
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  they would've had the- There you go… wouldn't they?
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  At least tied it or had the lead going into halftime.
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  Clinton: Yeah, that, that makes sense.
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  I
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  Brandan: mean- Oh, no.
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  Yeah, so it was tied.
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  They could've kicked the field goal.
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  They opted to go for it on fourth down, and then Arizona drove down and scored
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  the field goal right before halftime.
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  Clinton: Oh, so that- that's a six-point swing right there.
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  Right.
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  So bad management, and this is not…
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  I mean, look, the, the Cardinals have, have LaFleur, maybe the better LaFleur
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  because Gr- the Green Bay LaFleur, he sure knows how to take points off the board
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  and then, and then, cripple another fourth quarter for his Green Bay Packers.
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  So we'll see, but that's, you know, not usually what you're
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  gonna get from a Harbaugh team, but that's a big swing right there.
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  And overall, dudes, like, look, it's, it's like are the Chargers that bad?
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  Are the Cardinals that good?
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  Phil: Neither.
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  Clinton: I don't- exactly.
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  I don- I don't think it's, I don't think it's either.
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  And when you see the Cardinals, like, just getting after Herbert with, with
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  intensity, with the pass rush, it's like, man, what's up with this Chargers o-line?
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  I know they're kinda, they're kinda back, and they got dudes back who are coming
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  off of major injuries, but- O- okay.
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  It did, it just did, it was bad news for the Chargers kind of all day long.
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  So, I- we'll talk about it.
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  We're gonna get into our review now, but anything else from your, your perspective
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  there, Phil, on Arizona or a nugget or two that you thought is worth talking about?
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  Phil: Their linebacker play looks pretty good.
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  I did not ex- their edge group is supposed to not be good, but they didn't look
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  as horrible as I expected them to look.
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  Obviously, you'd go in knowing McBride's gonna be awesome
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  and of course he's awesome.
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  So I mean, spam McBride if I'm, if I'm their coordinator.
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  But they were running the ball with both backs well, decently well.
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  Not…
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  They weren't dominating, but they were running well with them.
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  I think both Allgeier and Love could be a problem, but
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  probably not for the Seahawks.
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  I, I just, the, the Chargers didn't look ready.
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  They didn't, especially didn't come out in the second half looking like
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  they knew what they were doing.
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  It was kind of embarrassing for them.
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  I, I think it was more the Chargers not being up for it than I thought
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  that the Cardinals looked awesome.
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  That was for me, that, from what I was seeing.
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  Clinton: Yeah.
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  I like to call them linebackers.
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  Let's talk about them more a bit later.
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  Brandan, you talked about listening to some Arizona podcasts.
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  Got a lot of Arizona podcasts in my ear this week, and they were glowing
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  about some of the linebacker play.
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  So I'm sure- Oh, okay… we'll talk about that.
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  Yeah, really- I didn't know
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  Brandan: there were multiple.
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  I thought I found the only one.
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  Clinton: Funny.
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  Well, they have, like, you know, two fans, so one podcast, two fans.
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  Sounds about right.
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  Good ratio.
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  Phil: How about we get to the theme?
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  Yes.
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  The theme, of course, we have a game.
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  This is a very special game for a special man.
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  He gets to s- start with the Seahawks.
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  We get the hose.
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  You, you know-… John Schneider, when he talked about when we had the trade
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  for Russell Wilson, and we got Drew Lock coming, he goes, "The man's got a hose."
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  So I found him already practicing hosing off the Cardinals.
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  We s- ha- had someone get in there and, and snap a picture for us.
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  Brandan: Good.
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  Phil: So we have Drew Lock going down to Arizona, and what if, gentlemen
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  what if the Cards are hosed as they face Drew Lock and the Seahawks, this week?
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  Clinton will get to go first on where we go.
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  Everything has something to do with hosing things.
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  We have air, like an air hose, spray, flow, radiator, garden, or fire.
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  That's what, Drew is using there in the picture.
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  Clinton, where will we go first?
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  Clinton: Yeah, this is fun.
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  Always love your themes, man, so and I love that it's focused on Drew
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  Lock, the hose, and I'm sure we'll explore all the, all the avenues.
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  Look, I could think about being a youth and being thirsty and playing wiffle
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  ball and-… hitting up the garden hose for a cold drink of water like we did
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  in the 1980s and, you know, early 90s.
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  Phil: Yeah, we had a half-court basketball right
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  where, in my front yard, and I…
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  People were there all the time.
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  Like, after school, we were there till dinner.
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  My mom always had cookies going.
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  And we just kinda left the garden hose going all the time.
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  And as you're playing ball- It's good drink.
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  It's good drink… just people rotate around.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  three on three, four on four, whatever it is, rotate around and
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  drink it out of the garden hose.
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  So we have a lovely garden here.
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  Clinton, what if we talk about growth?
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  When I think about gardens, I think about growth.
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  Where do we most need to see growth from our Seahawks from last week
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  going into this week, Clinton?
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  Clinton: Yeah, good question.
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  this to me is the one, we were in the stands for last game.
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  We saw the 13-10 victory.
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  We see the comeback.
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  We see Price.
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  We see JSN do his thing, and the other side of the coin was
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  we saw some sloppiness, right?
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  Yeah.
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  So the growth can simply be, being a more professional football team-
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  Yeah… for, for 60 full minutes.
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  And, you know, to quantify that a little bit more or try to quantify
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  it or get it towards quantification, we're just talking about like, hey
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  getting plays in on time, not taking delay of game penalties, not having
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  more offsides or false starts than your opponent, especially last week at home.
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  just cl- clean it up, right?
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  I mean, that to me, with Fleury in game two now with, with, Drew
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  Lock in what will be basically a f- you know, full second game two and a
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  full week of practice, I understand why that would happen in week one with
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  a new OC and a backup quarterback.
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  Yes.
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  I, I could…
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  I have some grace for that.
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  And then I think it ends.
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  It's like, and I think Mike Macdonald is gonna be like, "No, we're not leaving
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  points on the board because on, for the three-yard line we take a delay of game
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  then have a procedural pen- penalty."
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  Not happening again.
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  So there's other ways you cer- we certainly can grow, but even if we just
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  play way more clean, I think we'll see the kind of growth that we're after.
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  Phil: That would've been my number one on the board.
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  You took it off the board.
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  Brandan, you're gonna have to think a little bit harder.
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  Where would you like to see growth other than- Yeah… cleaning up the
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  ridiculous unprofessional penalties?
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  Brandan: Penalty is definitely number one answer off the board.
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  I, I think number two answer is Drew Lock, because now going into this
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  week, he's the starting quarterback.
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  And, and, and I think how we see that play out in terms of growth
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  is, we saw a lot of JSN.
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  And we- Mm-hmm… you would expect that because he's your number one player.
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  But now that he has had an entire week to work with the offense, work
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  with the number ones, spreading the ball around and getting other people
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  involved, especially if the Cardinals go into this game, you know, you
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  see other teams try and take away JSN too, and it doesn't necessarily work.
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  I mean, the Patriots didn't go into that game going, "Oh, you know what?
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  JSN 100 yards, like we can, we can live with that."
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  the, the Cardinals, they may not be able to stop him, but I think th- that
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  having that connection then with some of the other pass catchers, with A.J.
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  Barner, you know, got a really good tight end on the other side of the field that
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  I'm sure we're gonna talk about today.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  But, you know, getting other components of the offense
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  involved in the passing game.
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  Phil: Yeah, that's, that's a good call for sure.
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  I dig it.
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  I'd love to see some, some growth that way.
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  But don't grow to where you get risky with the ball.
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  So grow and, but continue to do a good job of taking care of the ball.
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  Garden is gone, so we will have…
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  Oh, that's the wrong one.
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  We don't wanna put a little light on there, do we?
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  We wanna cross it out.
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  How about that?
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  There we go.
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  How about we cross it out, Brandan?
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  Yeah.
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  So now you know which five you get to choose from.
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  Brandan: Now we know where to go next.
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  It's gonna be radiator because- Mm
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  a radiator is a, an important part of your car, as I found out
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  one time-… visiting the gorge.
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  And, had, had the, the plug, burst out of my radiator and
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  then I was, stranded until I could get some more coolant in my
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  car- Yeah… and, keep moving.
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  Phil: You were hosed until you got the-… thing next to
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  the radiator hose cor- corrected.
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  Exactly.
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  Which was the actual radiator itself.
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  Brandan, what if Price and his O-line can heat things up?
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  Radiators warm up, don't they?
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  Where should Fleury find success in the run game down in Arizona?
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  Brandan: Ooh, where should they find success?
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  I, I think just through, you know, keeping the ball…
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  Y- Clinton and Adam talked about this a little bit with Thomas
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  Rawls in, their preview- Yeah
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  with him yesterday.
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  And just the, the fact that the offense was so limited, because they…
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  Even though they didn't…
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  I don't, I don't think we had a single three-and-out.
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  maybe we did- Mm… unless I'm forgetting.
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  But, Yeah.
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  I don't think
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  Phil: so
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  … Brandan: the, they still, 40 plays is not enough.
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  And so I think just continuing to have that balance, I, I
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  think they can have some more success against this run defense.
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  And, I know, you know, they're, they're hyped about their linebackers
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  but I think that, I th- I think in particular with the edges, with our
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  offensive tackles against this Cardinals edge group, I think that that's where
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  I could see us having more success.
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  But I also, I, I love running up the middle too- Yeah.
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  because, we, we've seen our team be able to have success there, and
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  Price seems to have that vision.
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  So, I'd like to see a little more Price.
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  And I'm, I'll, I'll, I'll s- I'll just say the edges.
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  Phil: You would like, you think we can have some success…
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  I think that's a good call, and I, I also agree with where you're at.
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  Like, we would like to do well in the inside, but, we should be able to
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  have some suc- success on the edges.
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  I just think having
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  Brandan: more volume is gonna- Mm… generate more success.
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  Phil: How about you, Clinton?
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  Do you have a, do you have a great answer here for this, difficult
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  question that I've proposed?
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  Clinton: I mean, so I think I, I was gonna go to- towards volume
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  also, being like, and that goes back to the number of plays- Yeah
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  but also just getting, getting Price upwards of 16 plus, 18
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  plus, more, a more cowbell-ish before our Charbonnet gets back.
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  Can we, can we use him as a legit RB1 and, and, you know, 10 for 52 is good
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  18 for 130 sure feels achievable and, and really, really, really solid.
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  Ro- Roy Lopez is, is dinged up, but, you know, he's just on the…
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  He was, limited yesterday.
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  Big defensive tackle, that's pretty darn good.
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  Yeah.
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  They have a bunch of like, you know, people like me might know some of
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  these names, like Dante Stills, Josh Sweat, you know, and then- He's
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  Phil: hurt, right?
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  Or he's taking a, he's just taking a rest day.
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  Clinton: He was not back yet.
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  Yeah, he wasn't back yet.
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  And then, like, Walter Nolen, who c- who, who was a second-year guy, I think
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  from Ole Miss, just a big body, about 300 pounder, dead smack in the middle too.
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  He's talented.
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  He'll, he'll eat two, you know, he'll eat up to, double teams all day.
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  He's a pretty talented guy.
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  So, you know, it's a bit of, like, a no-name defense, but
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  it's, I think it's actually okay.
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  I think their defensive line is not that bad, and they got some
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  interesting, cornerbacks as well.
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  So I do like the idea of, look, we are, we are still gonna be a wide zone team.
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  Clinton: Mm-hmm.
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  Clinton: And like we talked about with Thomas Rawls, Thomas' big call-out
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  about, like, watching Ja'Darian Price was he's extremely consistent with
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  knowing whe- when he picks the right place to go with the ball, and then
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  he's extremely decisive and gets up field when he does make the call.
• 16:21
  So he was, so Thomas was very impressed with, like, his consistency of being
• 16:26
  like, you made the, you made the o- the offensive line look good there.
• 16:30
  Like, y- you, you ran it exactly as it was scripted.
• 16:32
  The hole was there.
• 16:33
  You trusted it, and you got as much as you could in that particular run
• 16:36
  which is cool to hear from a- Yeah
• 16:38
  an NFL running back who, who knew his stuff.
• 16:40
  Yeah.
• 16:40
  So beyond the volume, I do think we…
• 16:43
  The beautiful part about Price, and the beautiful part about wide zone is
• 16:46
  that you could keep trying to get the edge, but with a runner like Price and
• 16:53
  the, the athleticism of our o-line-
• 16:55
  Phil: Counter it
• 16:55
  … Clinton: the, the, the cutback lanes are gonna be- Yeah
• 16:57
  there as well as the overpursue.
• 16:59
  So cool.
• 17:00
  We saw that in the very first play of the game last, last
• 17:02
  last time against the Pats.
• 17:04
  So it's a little bit of a- You know, combo platter there of volume plus
• 17:09
  yeah, keep being who you are, go outside, and let Price be who he is, which is
• 17:16
  if he doesn't see it there, he puts his foot in the ground, decides to cut
• 17:19
  it back up the A or B, all day long.
• 17:22
  We are more athletic than they are.
• 17:24
  Our offensive line is really athletic, which means we're getting to second
• 17:28
  levels- Yeah… we're pinning dudes, and we're in position where Price
• 17:32
  doesn't need a giant hole, he needs a seam, and it's kind of perfectly set
• 17:37
  up for him to have a nice big day.
• 17:39
  Phil: Yeah, when I'm talking about heating things up, it's
• 17:41
  kind of like, did we see him?
• 17:42
  Yeah, we saw him, we saw him play, but can we really feel him this week?
• 17:45
  Like, is he gonna affect the, the temperature of the game a little bit more?
• 17:50
  That's kind of what I'm hoping for.
• 17:51
  Yeah.
• 17:52
  And probably like you're saying, it's just volume.
• 17:53
  Like- Well
• 17:54
  Clinton: yeah
• 17:55
  … Phil: he didn't have many bad runs.
• 17:56
  Clinton: I didn't mean to cut you off there too, but like you did
• 17:57
  spur a different idea quickly is like, you know, we didn't see him
• 18:00
  really much at all on third down.
• 18:02
  Right.
• 18:02
  So just th- that particular place, can we see him on third down, or can we
• 18:06
  see him in the screen game at all too?
• 18:09
  So there's some other ways that it might, we might get more, a
• 18:12
  little bit more Price for our, for our buck, which would be cool.
• 18:15
  ' Phil: Cause you open the hood, you feel the radiator, right?
• 18:18
  I would like to like- Open
• 18:19
  open this game up and get a feel that Price is-
• 18:23
  Clinton: The guy
• 18:23
  … Phil: impacting the temperature.
• 18:24
  Yep.
• 18:24
  Yeah.
• 18:25
  He's getting hot.
• 18:25
  Clinton: Love it.
• 18:26
  Phil: Clinton, you get to go next.
• 18:27
  Air, spray, flow, or fire?
• 18:28
  Clinton: Hmm.
• 18:29
  Let's go, you know, it's nice to be in a really good flow.
• 18:32
  Let's go with flow.
• 18:33
  Phil: Get the flow.
• 18:34
  Let's see what we got there.
• 18:35
  Here we go, Clinton.
• 18:36
  What if the Hawks can block the flow of the Cards run game?
• 18:39
  They had 116 yards last week split up between Allgeier and Love.
• 18:43
  What should we, what do you think we should hold them down to?
• 18:47
  And you can give yards or not, but, kinda how are we gonna shut d-
• 18:51
  turn the faucet off, so to speak, from the Cards run game this week?
• 18:55
  Clinton: Yeah, very different backs, complimentary.
• 18:58
  I like Tyler Allgeier.
• 18:59
  I always did.
• 19:00
  Yeah.
• 19:00
  I want him.
• 19:00
  I thought they…
• 19:01
  I th- exactly.
• 19:02
  When we had, like, when we knew that K9 was probably walking out the
• 19:05
  door, and then what he signed for, it's, like, five-something million.
• 19:09
  I'm like, "Okay, this guy was a legitimate, a legitimate, second
• 19:13
  punch down in, than in Atlanta, just behind Bijan," who of course you're
• 19:16
  gonna, you're gonna feed Bijan.
• 19:18
  But he's a different type of back.
• 19:19
  Certainly has the power, very good at the goal line, very good on the tough
• 19:22
  yards, and a good runner overall.
• 19:24
  you know, so I think any team is still gonna have a hard time with
• 19:30
  with our defensive tackles and our linebacker corps, and our edge.
• 19:33
  It's just we're very, very good against the run.
• 19:35
  But I'm not saying anything, out of the ordinary here that people
• 19:38
  don't know about, of course, already.
• 19:40
  Phil: Well, we're, like, the best tackling team on opening week.
• 19:43
  Like, we're not even, we don't even need to get with it on that.
• 19:46
  Clinton: It's very difficult to run against the Seahawks, and that's
• 19:48
  it, it's such an advantage, and that's without Emmanwori, who maybe
• 19:51
  he's back, but we'll, we'll see.
• 19:53
  But it's extremely difficult, we know this, to run against our team.
• 19:56
  with, with that, Jeremiah Love is different.
• 20:01
  Jer- you know, in the sense that, like, a, a player like Allgeier, I think
• 20:05
  bottling him, him up like we did with R- Rhamondre is pretty darn similar.
• 20:10
  You know?
• 20:10
  It's like maybe- It does… there's some variance of skill here or
• 20:13
  there, but they're bigger, they're stronger, and they're pretty
• 20:16
  good at getting the tough yards.
• 20:18
  We had no problem bottling up Rhamondre St- Rhamondre Stevenson last week.
• 20:22
  on the opposite side of that, you know, Love has got more…
• 20:26
  I, he, I don't think he has the skill level of Jahmyr Gibbs.
• 20:29
  It's, it's not as flashy or as quick on, on film to me.
• 20:34
  But he's more violent, and he, he has this, Isaiah Pacheco, and I
• 20:40
  say that in a good way, like a plus Isaiah Pacheco to him Where he's kinda
• 20:44
  wild, and he kinda takes these…
• 20:46
  His body movement's different and he, and he himself can get
• 20:49
  to the outside successfully.
• 20:51
  His touchdown run, he did exactly that.
• 20:53
  So our edge group, which I am highly confident in, but we're talking D Law
• 20:58
  Nwosu, and Hall, et cetera, et cetera.
• 21:00
  The edge group I think has to play even better than last week, which
• 21:03
  was phenomenal against the Patriots, because I think the type of runner
• 21:07
  who likes to bounce it outside with Love, it just calls for it.
• 21:11
  And I have no problem with us rallying behind that, with Spoon crashing
• 21:14
  down or Jobe crashing down- Mm-hmm.
• 21:16
  Brandan: Yep
• 21:16
  … Clinton: or, Drake flowing to the outside to be where he's supposed
• 21:20
  to be, and they work as a system.
• 21:22
  But I think our edges will be more challenged because Love likes to
• 21:26
  bounce the ball when he can, and he's, he's pretty damn fast, guys.
• 21:30
  Phil: How about you, Brandan?
• 21:31
  Which one of these guys are you most worried about, and, what
• 21:34
  do you, which one, how do you think we're gonna hold him down?
• 21:36
  Brandan: Our Seahawks have not allowed a 100-yard rusher in 27 straight games.
• 21:42
  Phil: Yeah.
• 21:43
  Is that good?
• 21:43
  That
• 21:43
  Phil: sounds good.
• 21:44
  Brandan: That sounds pretty good.
• 21:44
  That's very good.
• 21:45
  Yeah.
• 21:45
  And really, the, the 116 yards, it's, 14 of those were J.K.
• 21:50
  Brisset, so you did have Love and Allgeier combined for a
• 21:55
  little over 100, just slightly.
• 21:57
  It's interesting listening to Cardinals fans talk about, they're very
• 22:02
  sensitive to this comparison of Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Price-
• 22:07
  Hmm… because I, I heard them talking about, "Oh, after week one
• 22:10
  this argument should already be over.
• 22:12
  Jeremiah Love had a touchdown."
• 22:16
  Clinton: Right.
• 22:16
  Right.
• 22:16
  Brandan: Okay.
• 22:17
  So, okay.
• 22:18
  Yeah.
• 22:18
  Yeah, but he also had 11 carries for 41 yards.
• 22:21
  Like- Yeah… they, they were fairly even in terms of, their
• 22:25
  rushing contribution to each team.
• 22:27
  But, yeah- Allgeier
• 22:28
  Phil: was more effective, I thought, right?
• 22:30
  Brandan: Allgeier was the more effective running back.
• 22:32
  Yeah.
• 22:32
  And against the Seahawks, he's had relative success.
• 22:36
  you know, 22 carries, 95 yards over the course of three games.
• 22:42
  So, you know, even, even three games with a full workload
• 22:46
  we haven't seen him get 95.
• 22:49
  I, I think that each w- Clinton's correct.
• 22:52
  Like, if I'm to pick one that I'm more concerned about, I, I'm
• 22:55
  definitely more concerned about the big play when it comes to Love.
• 22:58
  Hmm.
• 22:58
  I'm more concerned about short yardage performance when it comes to Allgeier
• 23:01
  because I think he can pick up two, three yards even against, you know
• 23:06
  a Seahawks defense that is, very good at limiting rushing yards.
• 23:09
  So, in, in both of ways, they have their own, they bring their
• 23:15
  own, components to the game, but, what should we hold them to?
• 23:20
  85 yards or less.
• 23:22
  Phil: I like it.
• 23:22
  Yeah.
• 23:23
  Yeah, and I'm not terrified of J.K.
• 23:25
  Brisset.
• 23:26
  I mean, we're not talking about, you know- Great.
• 23:29
  Oh, no.
• 23:29
  He is, We're not talking about- Yeah… Jaden Daniels coming in here
• 23:32
  but you're picking him for- He's Geno
• 23:34
  Brandan: Smith caliber- Yeah… as far as being able to get out and move, and
• 23:37
  Clinton: pretty hefty He's a pretty good quarterback.
• 23:39
  He's pretty good.
• 23:40
  He's not, you know-
• 23:40
  Phil: I mean running, like- I'm talking about
• 23:42
  Brandan: running, yeah.
• 23:42
  Phil: Oh.
• 23:42
  Like Drew Lock.
• 23:43
  Running- I think he's like Drew Lock level, right?
• 23:45
  Kinda?
• 23:45
  No
• 23:45
  Brandan: Lock's
• 23:46
  Clinton: better, I think than- I think le- less at this point of his career.
• 23:48
  Yeah.
• 23:48
  Phil: You think Drew's faster than Brissett?
• 23:49
  Oh, yeah.
• 23:50
  Yeah, okay.
• 23:51
  Clinton: Yep.
• 23:51
  I, and I also think Drew's better on the move, throwing the ball, too.
• 23:55
  You know, I think if we get, if we get Brissett off platform
• 23:58
  we'll, we'll have our success.
• 23:59
  Phil: Yeah, I'd, I'd love to hold them as a team under 100, not
• 24:03
  just the running back, but 'cause that's, there's three guys doing
• 24:06
  it, and, and I think we could.
• 24:07
  I like Brandan's pick there.
• 24:09
  Brandan, you got three choices.
• 24:11
  Brandan: Hey, if we're talking about the hose, we gotta talk about the spray.
• 24:14
  Phil: Spraying the ball.
• 24:16
  Spraying the ball, Brandan.
• 24:18
  What if the hose can spray the ball to various targets?
• 24:21
  You already started, started us on this thought earlier in the broadcast.
• 24:25
  How do you expect him to be more effective than Herbert was?
• 24:30
  Brandan: I, it's i- infinitely, higher expectations than Herbert.
• 24:33
  Okay.
• 24:34
  Because one of the things, watching back, Phil, to that game of the Chargers against
• 24:38
  the Cardinals, who is Herbert throwing to?
• 24:42
  Phil: Yeah.
• 24:42
  Brandan: He's throwing to Quentin Johnston and Ladd McConkey.
• 24:46
  And I- Conkie's good, right?
• 24:47
  I like Ladd.
• 24:48
  Ladd's fine, but- That's
• 24:49
  Clinton: good.
• 24:49
  He, he's a good route- He also got hurt.
• 24:50
  Once he got hurt, it was like- Yeah, that kind of
• 24:51
  Brandan: did it… yeah, then it was, well he couldn't catch the
• 24:53
  ball anymore after he was hurt.
• 24:54
  And Quentin Johnston is not good.
• 24:56
  And then-… if there are other pass catchers beyond that
• 24:59
  it's, it's very limited.
• 25:02
  And so when you talk about the targets that Drew Lock
• 25:06
  has, I mean, he, he has JSN.
• 25:08
  The, the, the Chargers don't have anybody anywhere near close-
• 25:11
  Phil: No
• 25:12
  … Brandan: to that level a receiver.
• 25:13
  He's got, y- his A.J. Barner, his tight end.
• 25:17
  Like I haven't seen anybody like that, with the Chargers.
• 25:21
  So, those top two targets, and then you have Rashid Shaheed
• 25:25
  who we really didn't see- Yeah, sure… a whole lot of in week one.
• 25:30
  And can they get the ball to the speedy Shaheed?
• 25:33
  I, I, I think even if he completes three or four passes to, to Shaheed
• 25:39
  he's already doing, something that is gonna be more effective than
• 25:43
  Herbert had in their past games.
• 25:45
  So, and then haven't even mentioned Cooper Kupp.
• 25:47
  So, a very good group, and a, a better group of receivers
• 25:53
  than Justin Herbert has in LA.
• 25:55
  Phil: Could you imagine a quarterback, a backup coming in and
• 25:58
  really coveting or wishing for more than what Drew got to walk into with
• 26:03
  these kinds of targets, Clinton?
• 26:04
  And how do you- Yeah… expect him to be more effective than Herbert?
• 26:08
  Clinton: Yeah, I think, the, the offensive coordinating al- allows for
• 26:13
  Drew to get a, a good amount of free yards, and we saw that- Oh, yeah… sort
• 26:17
  of with, if that means Brady Russell out of the backfield catching two
• 26:20
  receptions as a fullback out of nowhere-
• 26:22
  Barner for some free yards, or all the motion type of things that, that
• 26:27
  that, like, in, JSN across the face of, face of the defense, and
• 26:31
  you know, everybody watching JSN, then Drew's read is to the right-hand side
• 26:35
  just firing a quick ball to the tight end.
• 26:37
  I mean, JSN had eight
• 26:37
  Phil: catches.
• 26:38
  Clinton: It wasn't like he did nothing.
• 26:38
  Yeah, J- Yeah.
• 26:39
  We know JJ has had a good day.
• 26:40
  He's gonna get his.
• 26:41
  We, we- Yeah… know this, right?
• 26:42
  So it's, it's trying to look a little beyond that.
• 26:44
  I think this comes down to Fleury making things easy, easier for Drew than
• 26:49
  Herbert had it, even with, McDaniels.
• 26:52
  So with all that, you know, the one person we haven't talked about yet
• 26:55
  we, we did the Russell Wilson thing.
• 26:57
  We, we named all the players, right?
• 26:58
  The one player-… we didn't name yet is we didn't name Tory Horton.
• 27:02
  Yeah.
• 27:02
  And Tory Horton being full as a participant in, in
• 27:05
  practice, he should be back.
• 27:07
  Look, I like Rashid Shaheed as a wide receiver, and I really love him as
• 27:11
  a special teamer and a, and a, you know, punt returner, kick returner.
• 27:15
  And I think Tory Horton is a, could be even a different level than
• 27:20
  Shaheed, and Shaheed's been good.
• 27:22
  He was really good as a Saint, and he was a huge part of us
• 27:24
  winning- Wow… last year.
• 27:25
  But I think Horton might be a better route runner, you know?
• 27:29
  And-
• 27:29
  Phil: How many plays, how many snaps is Horton getting in this one?
• 27:32
  Clinton: Well, that's…
• 27:33
  The, again, there's only one ball, and if we only run 48 plays
• 27:36
  again- 15… that's You think he's- There we go… getting 15
• 27:39
  Phil: Brandan?
• 27:40
  That'd be pretty good.
• 27:40
  Brandan: 15 snaps?
• 27:41
  Yeah.
• 27:41
  Clinton: I think he could get, espe- look, we ran a lot of 11 last week.
• 27:46
  Yeah, for sure.
• 27:46
  We ran a lot of 11, and Shaheed was out there for a lot of it.
• 27:48
  So I think he could press to maybe 20.
• 27:51
  I think the Seahawks really like, Tory Horton.
• 27:54
  And I know I do, too.
• 27:55
  So I'm gonna p- I'm gonna press it to 20.
• 27:56
  Phil was
• 27:57
  Brandan: surprised by my number, and then Clinton went over the top.
• 27:59
  Clinton: I'm going 20, and then, but also like, hey, get the running
• 28:02
  backs involved with the pass game.
• 28:03
  Yeah.
• 28:03
  Make it easy, and that's how the ball can get spread around quite
• 28:07
  a bit more, and you could ha- and avoid a Herbert-like day, 'cause
• 28:10
  that was no fun for the Chargers.
• 28:12
  Phil: And something I was hoping to prompt, Brandan
• 28:14
  so maybe you can touch here.
• 28:16
  As I was talking about more effective than Herbert, I was kind of implying that the
• 28:19
  Cardinals seemed to do a good job, but you're saying the only reason they did
• 28:23
  was because Herbert has trash for targets?
• 28:27
  Brandan: I think that's a big part of it.
• 28:28
  I, I mean- Okay… that's, watching back, it- John, Q- QJ's not good.
• 28:35
  Yeah.
• 28:35
  And I, I think- Yeah, so-… having him out on the field was a liability.
• 28:39
  Phil: Okay.
• 28:39
  Brandan: and, and I don't think it was because of good
• 28:43
  coverage- Yeah… by the Cardinals.
• 28:44
  Phil: It's kind of like the end of Hasselbeck's era and he's
• 28:46
  like, "Okay, where's he gonna throw?
• 28:48
  What do you mean nobody's getting open?"
• 28:49
  Like, that's 'cause they can't.
• 28:51
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 28:51
  They're, they're not open.
• 28:52
  And the Cardinals guys are pretty, like, Will Johnson's a high draft
• 28:55
  pick, and you got- Yeah… the brother of Bo Melton, Max Melton, back there
• 28:58
  who's, he's a pretty good cornerback.
• 28:59
  So, and it was, they still got Budda, hanging around center field there.
• 29:03
  Yeah.
• 29:03
  So it's not like, they're not devoid of talent.
• 29:06
  All those things being said, I, our wide receiver group and pass
• 29:10
  catchers, they're damn good, man.
• 29:12
  So- Yeah… cool.
• 29:13
  Put up anybody against us.
• 29:14
  Put the Texans back up against us.
• 29:16
  We're still gonna get ours.
• 29:17
  Phil: And I also think a reason that maybe, and this is in my mind
• 29:21
  maybe Drew can be more effective than Herbert because he's gonna have more time.
• 29:25
  I, I just-
• 29:27
  Clinton: Oh
• 29:27
  Phil: for sure.
• 29:28
  For sure I don't think they protected him well, and I, I don't
• 29:30
  know if it was strategy or talent, but I expe- what I watched our
• 29:33
  game, Drew was having decent time.
• 29:36
  I mean, for the amount of points we didn't score, you'd expect he was under fire the
• 29:39
  whole game, but he was having decent time.
• 29:41
  Clinton: Phil, there, there was examples where Herbert's getting sacked by two
• 29:44
  dudes, and that's because-… that's because, like, they got, like, three g-
• 29:48
  like, they're triple teaming one guy.
• 29:50
  It's like, what are you doing-… while other guys are running free?
• 29:52
  Yeah.
• 29:53
  Right?
• 29:53
  It's bad.
• 29:53
  So I just don't expect that with a, a, a t- a five dudes who have been
• 29:58
  together now for year two with Benton.
• 30:00
  Yeah.
• 30:01
  I just don't expect that from our team to be…
• 30:03
  They, they weren't, like, running exotic stunts.
• 30:05
  They were just doing the wrong things.
• 30:07
  Brandan: You know, our guys were just false starting and-
• 30:10
  … Phil: unfortunately-
• 30:11
  Clinton: I told you we gotta clean that up.
• 30:12
  That's fine.
• 30:13
  It's gonna get cleaned
• 30:13
  Phil: up… the Chargers were better before the play.
• 30:14
  That, that's what-
• 30:16
  Clinton: Yes.
• 30:16
  Yeah, they were better before the play.
• 30:17
  We were actually good at the play, which was nice.
• 30:21
  Phil: Okay, I think it's Clinton.
• 30:22
  We have air or fire.
• 30:24
  Clinton: You know what?
• 30:25
  I watched that, that Jordan movie with the sneakers.
• 30:28
  I f- we- I think air is in the title.
• 30:29
  That was a good movie.
• 30:30
  so air.
• 30:31
  Brandan: Is it the one with Matt Damon?
• 30:33
  Clinton: Yeah, that's good.
• 30:34
  It's a good, it's a good hustle, you know-… make it
• 30:37
  make it out of nowhere movie.
• 30:39
  Yeah, what was it called?
• 30:39
  Was it just called Air?
• 30:40
  I forget, but it's, it's solid.
• 30:42
  Phil: Everybody's afraid of the fire hose, so we'll go to air.
• 30:45
  Clinton, Brissett was 27 of 37 for 277 yards.
• 30:51
  Well over a third of it went to Mr.
• 30:53
  McBride, of course.
• 30:54
  But what if our Hawks can make he and McBride less effective?
• 30:58
  What are gonna be the keys of slowing down this high-flying Cardinals pass attack?
• 31:04
  Clinton: Yeah, so it's…
• 31:05
  I was, when I went back and looked at the numbers, and I'm- not the 27 of 37.
• 31:09
  That wasn't crazy, the, the percentage part.
• 31:13
  But 37 attempts in a game that you were pretty much in control o- over
• 31:17
  and you could have ran the ball more.
• 31:19
  and you already had incredible time of possession like we looked at earlier.
• 31:23
  The Cardinals last year, like, Brissett was throwing the ball
• 31:26
  40-something times a game in all these very close l- they lo- they
• 31:29
  lost a bunch of games close last year.
• 31:31
  And Brissett, and they were coming back a lot, trying to come back, and
• 31:34
  Brissett was routinely throwing the ball 42 times, 44 times, 40 times.
• 31:39
  It's no way to live.
• 31:40
  So I was kinda shocked he still threw the ball 37 times in a
• 31:43
  game that, that they controlled.
• 31:46
  All that being said, how do you disrupt Brissett?
• 31:49
  look, he to me is exactly in that time of his career, and we have
• 31:54
  the exact horses to do this, guys.
• 31:56
  You get pressure in the A, through the A gaps.
• 32:00
  Oh, yeah.
• 32:01
  You get pressure, the zero, the one.
• 32:02
  This is Byron Murphy, this is Leo.
• 32:05
  Bisontis went down, a b- their big draft pick, guard
• 32:08
  went down, and he's, he's out for the year, so, so- Both guys
• 32:11
  Phil: are on the report
• 32:12
  Clinton: right?
• 32:12
  Yeah, and Seumalo, right, if I'm saying it correctly or
• 32:15
  incorrectly, has a shoulder injury.
• 32:16
  He did not participate yesterday.
• 32:18
  We're recording this Thursday, you know, morning-ish, and- That's not good
• 32:21
  Phil: against Riley Mills to have a shoulder
• 32:22
  Clinton: injury, I hear… that's not good.
• 32:23
  I mean, you're a guard.
• 32:24
  You want your shoulders, because they're, that's where you're gonna…
• 32:26
  Besides your trunk, you're gonna get your power and hold these
• 32:29
  dudes off with your levers.
• 32:30
  You need your shoulders.
• 32:32
  So it's bad news bears for those guys.
• 32:34
  So that's the way, guys.
• 32:35
  And, and when you blitz, we are not foreign to the idea of running Spoon
• 32:41
  through the A gap, or certainly firing Drake Thomas through the A gap.
• 32:45
  Mm.
• 32:45
  If we get those things where you start to see Brissett's gotta bail and
• 32:49
  get flushed out, w- we won the rep.
• 32:52
  It m- might he convert a couple of them?
• 32:54
  Sure.
• 32:55
  He's, once he's on the run, he's gotta depend on his legs to, A
• 32:59
  create space, and then be accurate, he falls off dramatically.
• 33:02
  Yeah.
• 33:02
  Dramatically.
• 33:03
  Just like most quarterbacks do, but he falls off a cliff.
• 33:05
  If he's got time, could sit back there, three-step, five-step, and
• 33:08
  find a quick, you know, target to Michael Wilson or Trey McBride.
• 33:12
  He's gonna do that, 'cause he's competent.
• 33:14
  But we are not gonna allow him to be that.
• 33:16
  So I don't care about the numbers so much, but I think that's the how
• 33:20
  it just drives down his performance.
• 33:23
  Phil: Brandan Clinton picked interior pressure.
• 33:24
  That's probably top answer on the board.
• 33:26
  Now you gotta do the hard answer again.
• 33:29
  Yeah.
• 33:29
  Where, how else can we make them less effective?
• 33:31
  Brandan: Oh, I mean, if interior pressure is number one, edge
• 33:34
  pressure's gotta be number two, right?
• 33:35
  Because- Okay
• 33:36
  Phil: just pressure, pressure.
• 33:37
  Yeah… well
• 33:37
  Brandan: well, it is pressure because looking back to the Chargers game
• 33:41
  against the Cardinals, the Chargers, they only accumulated 12 pressures on
• 33:47
  the entire day, on 75 defensive snaps.
• 33:50
  Garbage.
• 33:51
  Phil: That's
• 33:51
  Brandan: terrible.
• 33:51
  12 pressures.
• 33:53
  And I don't think either one of you could name the top answer of who got more
• 33:57
  pressure, because it wasn't Khalil Mack.
• 33:59
  Khalil Mack was number two.
• 34:01
  He had two pressures the entire game.
• 34:03
  He's old.
• 34:03
  And, old man Khalil Mack.
• 34:05
  But, yeah, it was Tuli, Tuipulotu
• 34:09
  Phil: who had- That's why I couldn't name it, Brandan
• 34:10
  'cause I couldn't pronounce it.
• 34:11
  Brandan: You couldn't, you couldn't say it.
• 34:12
  Me either.
• 34:14
  But he had three pressures on the day, and we had four players.
• 34:19
  You had Uchenna Nwosu, Byron Murphy, Drake Thomas, and Leonard Williams
• 34:24
  all who had three or more pressures.
• 34:27
  And we actually had guys that had, you know, two, at least two pressures.
• 34:31
  And, neither of them were named Khalil Mack, 'cause he's not on our team.
• 34:34
  But, I, I think just having that pressure is, it's going to be huge.
• 34:41
  Having guys that can cover is gonna be huge.
• 34:44
  One of the, one of the funny things that I thought, listening to
• 34:47
  Cardinals fans is, th- this was the line that stuck out to me.
• 34:51
  He said, "Yeah, they, they have a great defense, but they have to deal with us."
• 35:00
  We, we got, we got, pass-catching talent with Trey McBride, Kendrick Bourne
• 35:05
  Marvin Harrison, and Michael Wilson.
• 35:07
  And yeah, Trey McBride's good.
• 35:09
  Yeah.
• 35:09
  I'll give you that.
• 35:10
  I'll give you that, the first one.
• 35:10
  But- Michael
• 35:11
  Clinton: Michael Wilson's good.
• 35:12
  He's good.
• 35:12
  Yeah, I was not saying they're
• 35:13
  Brandan: bad.
• 35:13
  He's good, but-
• 35:14
  Clinton: He's legit good.
• 35:15
  The other ones, yeah, fine
• 35:15
  … Brandan: Michael Wi- okay.
• 35:16
  Yeah.
• 35:16
  Michael Wilson's good.
• 35:18
  Are you going into this game going, "You know what?
• 35:20
  We gotta put two guys on Michael Wilson" Glenn?
• 35:21
  Clinton: No.
• 35:22
  You just, no, you don't, you don't have to.
• 35:23
  And it's, and the missing link that we haven't named yet, too, for Trey
• 35:27
  McBride, is that's cool, but if, but if Emmanwori plays and is healthy, he's
• 35:34
  very, very well-equipped to, to, you know, track down a guy like McBride
• 35:38
  and, and, and- He'd be perfect if
• 35:39
  Phil: Emmanwori's
• 35:39
  Clinton: there
• 35:39
  to, to counter how good McBride is.
• 35:42
  Emmanwori's-
• 35:43
  Brandan: You know, you know who else- Yeah… is okay, against tight ends?
• 35:47
  Julian Love.
• 35:48
  Clinton: Oh, Julian Love's the man, yeah.
• 35:49
  You know how I feel about that man, so.
• 35:51
  Brandan: Exactly.
• 35:52
  So- Yeah.
• 35:52
  That's a good man.
• 35:53
  That'll be a, that'll be a big man.
• 35:53
  and we did, you know, we, we weren't up against Trey McBride last
• 35:57
  week, but we did pretty well against
• 35:59
  Phil: you know
• 35:59
  Brandan: the New England tight ends.
• 36:00
  Clinton: Yeah, they had that one little leak out to the backup tight
• 36:02
  end for a touchdown, but that's okay.
• 36:03
  We still won the game.
• 36:04
  Who cares?
• 36:05
  Hunter Henry didn't do much.
• 36:07
  Phil: I do- historically, McBride is okay against us, right?
• 36:12
  I mean, he's great against everybody and-
• 36:14
  Clinton: Big numbers, big- but a lot of calories, a lot of empty calories.
• 36:17
  Yeah, it's a- You know, that, I was looking at the stats from the-… garbage
• 36:18
  time- The last game-… score… we won 44-22, I think it was November
• 36:22
  the 2nd game, and he had like 100 and, it was like 9 for like 127.
• 36:27
  Phil: Yeah.
• 36:28
  Clinton: We were up by like triple, you know, we were up by like three
• 36:31
  touchdowns at one point, and he's getting stuff between the 20s.
• 36:34
  And yeah, okay.
• 36:35
  Like, it, that's the true yards-don't-matter of a
• 36:38
  day, when you lose by 22.
• 36:40
  sure.
• 36:43
  Brandan: Yeah.
• 36:43
  I'm gonna go with air.
• 36:47
  Phil: Good try.
• 36:48
  Brandan: Air is- Now it's, now it's off the board.
• 36:50
  It's off the board.
• 36:51
  fire then.
• 36:52
  Fine.
• 36:52
  Phil: Dope.
• 36:53
  Everybody's afraid of Drew's fire hose on the pick straight.
• 36:55
  Brandan: I know.
• 36:55
  Well, I picked air because it was still on the board before you
• 36:58
  crossed it out from last time.
• 36:59
  Mm.
• 36:59
  I thought maybe I'd get
• 36:59
  Clinton: it back.
• 37:00
  Remember we talked about the Jordan movie, remember?
• 37:02
  Yeah.
• 37:02
  The whole thing.
• 37:02
  Phil: Sorry, we gotta go here, Brandan.
• 37:04
  I don't even know where- I picked
• 37:05
  Brandan: it before he crossed it out.
• 37:06
  I didn't want to go fire.
• 37:09
  Phil: Brandan, what if there's one thing offensively or defensively that you
• 37:13
  wanna see pouring out of the game plan?
• 37:15
  Where do you want to attack the Cards heavy and often, wide open
• 37:20
  you're gonna fire hose this area.
• 37:22
  You can go defense, you can go offense, whatever you want, Brandan.
• 37:25
  Brandan: Oh, I, the thing that I want to see most defensively
• 37:30
  is stopping that running game.
• 37:32
  And I- Okay… I know that we, we've kind of already talked about that, but
• 37:35
  if there is one thing that I wanna see stopped, it, it would be to make the
• 37:40
  Cardinals one-dimensional and, a- and really stop that running game because I
• 37:47
  I have to believe that Jacoby Brissett, yes, he had a nice game, but if he
• 37:54
  doesn't have that run game to rely on, it's going to be the pressure of the
• 37:59
  the defensive line that's gonna speed the game up for him, make him have to work.
• 38:04
  I, I don't think he's gonna be able to throw the ball around as easily
• 38:09
  as he was against the Chargers, and because that's gonna lead to turnovers.
• 38:13
  And, it is all about the ball, Phil.
• 38:16
  When the Seahawks win the turnover battle, Mike Macdonald is 11 and 0.
• 38:20
  Yeah.
• 38:20
  14 and 0 in the playoffs, and
• 38:25
  One more win, going to 12 and 0 in the regular season
• 38:28
  winning the turnover battle.
• 38:29
  that sounds awfully good against the Cardinals.
• 38:31
  Phil: Well, they'll win if they get that.
• 38:32
  And you're gonna get your other one.
• 38:34
  We're gonna shut down their run.
• 38:35
  I mean, they have a Dr.
• 38:36
  Strange one in a zillion chance of us not stopping their run, I think.
• 38:41
  there's like, if you look through in the multiverse, there was just like
• 38:44
  one time that happened, and it was just all kinds of horrible things happened.
• 38:48
  So, shut down the run.
• 38:51
  Brandan's gonna get his.
• 38:52
  Clinton, where would you like us to s- fire hose them offensively or defensively?
• 38:56
  One thing.
• 38:57
  We just- Mm-hmm
• 38:57
  the game plan needs to have this all over it.
• 39:00
  Clinton: Yeah, I love this.
• 39:01
  I think this one, for me, it's pretty simple.
• 39:02
  When we look at Brissett throwing the ball 37 times, I could tell you who I
• 39:06
  don't want throwing the ball 37 times.
• 39:09
  Okay.
• 39:09
  I don't want Drew Lock throwing the ball 37 times.
• 39:11
  Yeah.
• 39:11
  So, so, like, let's bring that down the stream a little bit.
• 39:15
  It's like, okay, if he throws the ball 24 times, 26 times, I'm
• 39:18
  feeling pretty good about that.
• 39:19
  So where's the ball going?
• 39:21
  It- we're running the football, guys.
• 39:22
  We're running the rock.
• 39:23
  I really would, really would like to see Jadarian Price used as
• 39:27
  an RB1, and what does that mean?
• 39:30
  To me, that's at least 18, you know, 18 to 22 rushing- I love that
• 39:34
  attempts for him.
• 39:35
  But as an aggregate for, you know, with, with whether it's Emmanuel
• 39:40
  or if it's Holani, man, I would love to see us, like, run the ball 35 times
• 39:46
  where, like, they just can't stop us.
• 39:48
  You know?
• 39:48
  It's like we are just get- we're converting on third and twos, and
• 39:51
  then on first down we're getting six.
• 39:53
  And in the red zone, we're like, "Oh, you know what?
• 39:55
  We're at the eight-yard line.
• 39:56
  We're gonna run it, run it again, run it one more time, and it's fourth
• 39:59
  and one, we're gonna run it in."
• 40:00
  You know, just, like, have that kind of mentality where
• 40:03
  it's like this is an okay team.
• 40:05
  They're, they're not bad, and they got s- we talked about it.
• 40:08
  They got, they got some players, man.
• 40:09
  They're okay across the line.
• 40:11
  They got some decent linebackers.
• 40:13
  But we're better.
• 40:14
  We're more athletic, and we're a better football team.
• 40:17
  So I want Fleury to unleash the running backs, keep Drew right in
• 40:21
  that kinda sweet pocket, and let the running backs do the work on Sunday
• 40:26
  'cause I think we'll end up with…
• 40:27
  It might not be some Bears-type game, 'cause who cares?
• 40:30
  We might not score 59 points, but if we ex- But they ran
• 40:32
  Phil: a lot, too
• 40:33
  … Clinton: Tha- that's true.
• 40:34
  Yeah.
• 40:34
  That's a good point.
• 40:35
  Yeah.
• 40:35
  But if we do execute that way, we will, we'll, we'll win the day, and that's
• 40:39
  all I care about when it gets done.
• 40:41
  Phil: It's funny, Clinton, I, I love where you're at, but somebody's
• 40:44
  ornery like me listening and saying, "Okay, he doesn't want Drew to pass
• 40:48
  much, but Torrey's gonna play 20 times,"
• 40:52
  JSN's
• 40:52
  Clinton: gonna get his and catch it.
• 40:52
  Well, but 20 snaps does not mean 20, Shaheed's still gonna
• 40:54
  Phil: Shaheed's still gonna get five and C- and Barner is gonna get five
• 40:57
  … Clinton: Well, I, well, I, that's funny, like, back to that point earlier
• 41:00
  when you asked it, it's like, okay, it's cool to talk about where the ball might
• 41:03
  spray around, but I won't be shocked if it's like, oh, we look at a line that
• 41:07
  goes JSN nine and the next dude has three.
• 41:11
  Phil: Yeah.
• 41:12
  That one don't- Because we ran 12 all day, and we just-… won't shock
• 41:14
  Clinton: me.
• 41:14
  Phil: Yeah, ran 12 all day and just ran the ball, and threw it to JSN
• 41:18
  to keep the, keep the chains moving.
• 41:20
  'Cause he- But you can run the ball a lot and still get a lot of completions-
• 41:23
  Correct… 'cause they kinda go together.
• 41:24
  Your completion percentage goes up, you have the ball more- Yeah
• 41:28
  your total- Yeah, you're extending
• 41:28
  Brandan: drives.
• 41:29
  Clinton: Yeah… got, got one, one stat before we, we hit the rest of it.
• 41:32
  I gotta just find it real quick.
• 41:33
  It was e- it was either eight for eight or nine for nine.
• 41:35
  I think it's eight for eight, but let's call it eight for eight.
• 41:38
  Drew, talk about, you know, running so that you set things up.
• 41:40
  Drew Lock in play action last week was, I think it's eight for eight, eight for
• 41:44
  eight for 110 yards and a touchdown.
• 41:47
  Phil: I know we were number one DVOA on- Cool… play action.
• 41:50
  Yeah.
• 41:50
  Clinton: Comes directly out of also running the football well, and then
• 41:53
  eight for eight on play action?
• 41:55
  Awesome, and a lot of it being free, open, easy reads, and Drew
• 42:01
  did a great job with that stuff.
• 42:02
  Phil: And no pressure.
• 42:03
  That's what I love about play action.
• 42:04
  The quarterback can just look and not be so concerned about the, the pressure.
• 42:09
  Clinton: Look at that
• 42:09
  Phil: well.
• 42:09
  Well, what's-
• 42:09
  Clinton: Look at that well.
• 42:10
  It's full.
• 42:11
  It's brimming.
• 42:12
  Phil: Yes, the w- the Flocker wishing well is packed.
• 42:14
  Did you guys stop in and throw something in when you were at the game?
• 42:16
  Did you bring the group over?
• 42:18
  That's nice.
• 42:18
  Clinton: Oh, you know what?
• 42:18
  We circled and circled, and then we went inside.
• 42:21
  Phil: Okay.
• 42:21
  So you didn't stop off at the Little Flock of Wishing Well.
• 42:24
  Clinton: Yeah, like I said, it's a Harry Potter thing.
• 42:25
  We think you have to walk through a brick wall.
• 42:27
  We're not, we're not…
• 42:28
  We'll see it next time, I'm
• 42:29
  Phil: sure.
• 42:29
  Yeah, okay, next time.
• 42:30
  I wanna go there for sure.
• 42:32
  We did get a lot of wishes, and so I've gotta go fast.
• 42:35
  This almost- this may be late to the recording, there were so many
• 42:37
  wishes, but we're glad about that.
• 42:39
  How do they get in to be able to toss these into the Wishing Well?
• 42:42
  How can they find this mysterious place, Brandan?
• 42:44
  Brandan: Yeah, getintheflock.com
• 42:47
  or you can hit the join button out on YouTube, become a member of the
• 42:51
  flock, and you get into our Discord.
• 42:53
  We have a Discord channel just for the Wishing Well, the, the What If
• 42:59
  Preview Show channel, and, that's where you go to leave your wishes.
• 43:03
  Clinton: So fun.
• 43:04
  Phil: Okay, so let me see if I can speed read these.
• 43:06
  KNTS TP, "What if we come out of State Farm Stadium with no injuries?"
• 43:10
  I like that.
• 43:11
  King Trails, "Price over 55 yards and a touchdown, and yeah, please don't let
• 43:15
  another dynasty die in Glendale, Arizona."
• 43:18
  Mm.
• 43:18
  Hey, that's not even…
• 43:18
  Let's not even go there.
• 43:19
  12 Fan Records, "Shaheed takes a punt return to the house."
• 43:23
  I like it.
• 43:24
  Dehooman, Josh, he says, "Elijah Arroyo and the other tight ends are
• 43:28
  more involved in the passing game.
• 43:30
  We get a tight end touchdown.
• 43:31
  Seahawks defense holds McBride to under 100 yards and no touchdown."
• 43:35
  I love that, I love that a good game against McBride is
• 43:38
  let's keep him under a hundy.
• 43:39
  Yeah.
• 43:39
  Like, that's, that's where this guy's…
• 43:41
  He's like the whole team.
• 43:42
  They're the Arizona McBrides pretty much.
• 43:45
  Brandan: Mm-hmm.
• 43:45
  Phil: Lisa, "Zero pre-snap penalties," yes.
• 43:48
  Right.
• 43:48
  I'm with you, Lisa, and two rushing touchdowns.
• 43:51
  We like that as well.
• 43:53
  PS1, "Minimize the penalties, Price unleashed, another pick for Job
• 43:58
  and oh no, you broke the three no more than three wishes rule.
• 44:02
  PS," but maybe you're new at this.
• 44:04
  Clinton: Maybe.
• 44:04
  " Phil: I wanna give him his wish.
• 44:05
  Leo gets to body surf over a hapless bird."
• 44:08
  I wouldn't mind seeing that even if- That's kind of
• 44:09
  cool… it's an illegal wish.
• 44:10
  Clinton: It's cute.
• 44:12
  Phil: Living the good life.
• 44:12
  Bracket McBride with the Eman pressure, the, Catfish out of Brissett.
• 44:18
  Then we have, well, I'm assuming it didn't really seem like his
• 44:22
  injury was a big deal for…
• 44:23
  Oh, that's, Eman is back.
• 44:24
  They're responding Eman is back in our Discord.
• 44:27
  Sure.
• 44:27
  Gamer Hog, "Byron Murphy has a national come out game and gets
• 44:31
  four sacks and a constant disruptive
• 44:34
  force."
• 44:34
  Brandan: Careful, that's spicy, Phil.
• 44:36
  I like that one.
• 44:36
  Four
• 44:36
  Brandan: sacks.
• 44:37
  Phil: Yeah, that's- Four.
• 44:38
  That goes with your first hope there, Clinton, just that interior pressure.
• 44:41
  Except
• 44:41
  Brandan: the, the only problem is this won't be a national game.
• 44:43
  Yeah, that's, that's very true.
• 44:47
  Phil: Very, yeah, someone'll notice if he gets four sacks.
• 44:50
  That's true.
• 44:50
  Living, Living the Good Life came back with some info, but we'll keep going.
• 44:53
  Car Car, "This is a hard one."
• 44:56
  Bunny, "What if super hawkra, we take the Arizona tortilla
• 45:01
  wraps and just cook them?"
• 45:02
  I kinda like that.
• 45:03
  They're wearing their tortilla wraps.
• 45:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 45:04
  Let's just…
• 45:05
  How about all the sack celebrations are chowing down on a burrito?
• 45:09
  Wouldn't that be all right?
• 45:09
  Yeah, just
• 45:09
  Clinton: flip it, flipping the burritos.
• 45:10
  Yeah.
• 45:10
  A little, little, little touch of heat, that's all.
• 45:12
  Phil: Car Car, "Darnold rests up so he's back sooner than expected."
• 45:16
  I like that.
• 45:17
  Got Zero Hawk, "Drew Lock, zero interceptions, running backs combine
• 45:21
  for 150 yards from scrimmage."
• 45:23
  Mm.
• 45:23
  Yeah, mm-hmm.
• 45:24
  "More Shaheed returns."
• 45:25
  Yeah, how about just return it, Shaheed, and then we'll let things happen.
• 45:28
  We'll see what, we'll see what your magic does when you decide to not fair catch it.
• 45:31
  Brandan: Yeah.
• 45:31
  I guess those first four returns were, like, his pre-season.
• 45:35
  Phil: Okay, yeah.
• 45:36
  Brandan: Feels right.
• 45:37
  Phil: That, that, he's trying to get his coordinator fired.
• 45:39
  or he doesn't want him to get promoted and stolen, so maybe that was what it was.
• 45:43
  Maybe.
• 45:43
  Nate Shoots, "We control the game on the ground, and we win comfortably.
• 45:48
  Also, Price outrushes Love doubly."
• 45:52
  And then I have one down here I'm having a hard time reading.
• 45:54
  Can you read that one for me, Clinton?
• 45:56
  Clinton: Oh, I can't from here.
• 45:57
  I gotta put my
• 45:58
  Brandan: peepers on.
• 45:58
  Brandan?
• 45:58
  Hold That Fish, "Defensive wish, a minimum three sacks and one interception
• 46:02
  while holding the Cardinals to under three and a half yards per rush."
• 46:07
  Nice.
• 46:07
  "Offensive, no big mistakes by Lock.
• 46:09
  We get better pre-snap and 120-plus yards rushing."
• 46:13
  Is- those, is, technically fit six wishes into two wishes.
• 46:16
  Phil: Okay.
• 46:17
  Is three sacks, is that a worthy wish?
• 46:20
  I mean, that's averaging 51 a season.
• 46:25
  Clinton: I don't know, you got one, one person with four sacks from
• 46:27
  Byron-… and one with three for the whole team, so you know, I, I don't know.
• 46:30
  Brandan: Minimum three sacks.
• 46:31
  Clinton: Minimum three sacks, there
• 46:32
  Phil: we go.
• 46:32
  Oh, for us.
• 46:33
  Okay, I mis- Yeah… that's what I was misreading.
• 46:34
  I couldn't follow.
• 46:35
  Okay, great.
• 46:36
  Rising Hawkra, "The Seahawks win," I'll take that.
• 46:38
  Gambling Goat, "We show that the Cardinals are still the
• 46:41
  Cardinals by dominating them."
• 46:44
  I think that's a fair wish, and that's probably gonna come true in- Mm-hmm
• 46:47
  to some degree.
• 46:48
  So we get to our gentlemen's wishes.
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  Last week, Brandan wished for Knight to get four tackles.
• 46:57
  Brandan: He got snaps.
• 46:59
  Phil: Yeah.
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  He was out there.
• 47:01
  Clinton, Clinton wished for Kupp for 40 yards and a touchdown, which is- Pretty
• 47:06
  Clinton: close.
• 47:07
  Pretty
• 47:07
  Phil: close… but that's, we had something that brought that back, right?
• 47:10
  Clinton: Yeah, exactly.
• 47:11
  Yeah.
• 47:11
  He had it and then we- Another pre-snap
• 47:12
  Brandan: penalty.
• 47:12
  Phil: Another penalty.
• 47:13
  Or
• 47:14
  Brandan: maybe it wasn't pre-snap.
• 47:15
  Phil: It might have been post-snap.
• 47:16
  Brandan: Like emotion.
• 47:16
  Clinton: He would've been right around that if we didn't had
• 47:18
  that penalty, just saying.
• 47:18
  Was
• 47:19
  Phil: that one, like, emotion or something?
• 47:20
  Clinton: Well, him and Holani were emotion same time, barely.
• 47:23
  Yeah.
• 47:23
  And that's true, you can't do it, but-
• 47:25
  Phil: It's not allowed… he was loud.
• 47:25
  Not allowed.
• 47:27
  So.
• 47:27
  Clinton: It's not Canadian football, so.
• 47:29
  Phil: Clinton, your wish first this time.
• 47:32
  Clinton: Yeah, I, I am of two minds, man.
• 47:34
  Like these are the two themes I've had the entire time.
• 47:36
  I will go with the, the more joy- I don't know, they're both joyful.
• 47:40
  God, I like defense, too.
• 47:41
  Jadarian Price with 105 plus yards on the ground- Wow… and a touchdown.
• 47:49
  A big day for our rookies.
• 47:50
  Triple digits.
• 47:51
  Yeah, big day.
• 47:52
  105 and a tuddy.
• 47:54
  Brandan: I think you could've gone lower on that and I would've accepted it.
• 47:56
  I'd, I'd accept- It's fine… 80, but, you're locked
• 47:58
  Clinton: in
• 47:58
  Brandan: for
• 47:59
  Clinton: 105 now.
• 47:59
  No biscuit.
• 48:00
  No biscuit
• 48:00
  Phil: no biscuit.
• 48:00
  No risky, no biscuit.
• 48:01
  It's really tough to get triple digits in the run game
• 48:02
  these days, but that's a wish.
• 48:04
  It's a What If Superhawk.
• 48:05
  To be super, triple digits it is.
• 48:07
  Clinton: Yes.
• 48:08
  Brandan: Well, one thing that would be super, Phil, is if Anthony
• 48:11
  Bradford had zero sacks, zero quarterback hits because Dante
• 48:18
  Stills, that's one name that we…
• 48:20
  Well, I think Clinton was naming dudes and brought up Dante Stills.
• 48:22
  But, he led the team in pressures for the Cardinals
• 48:27
  last week against the Chargers.
• 48:29
  Had four total pressures.
• 48:30
  He had one quarterback sack that was a quarterback sack on fourth down.
• 48:35
  That was the one, when they were going for it right before the end of the half.
• 48:38
  So, we, we do see Stills, though, if you go back to that game, he's
• 48:43
  not exclusively lined up on Bradford.
• 48:45
  In fact, he, the, he was outside on the edge a little bit.
• 48:48
  They like to move him around.
• 48:49
  in the first half it seemed like they were lining him up over the right
• 48:53
  guard, and then in the second half I, I saw him, pa- pass rushing
• 48:58
  more from the, left guard spot.
• 49:00
  But I think the area that they're gonna wanna target is going to
• 49:04
  be Anthony Bradford, and, we see a solid game from him.
• 49:08
  He holds up, no sacks, no quarterback hits.
• 49:11
  He might, he might give up a pressure or two, but-
• 49:14
  Phil: No, no hits.
• 49:15
  Oh, I put pressures.
• 49:15
  Okay.
• 49:16
  Yeah.
• 49:16
  So interior pressure's really bad for our deal.
• 49:19
  Hopefully Drew Lock isn't a goober like Justin and take a sack on fourth down
• 49:22
  which is the dumbest thing you can do.
• 49:24
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:24
  So, never take a sack on fourth down.
• 49:28
  All right.
• 49:29
  I like it.
• 49:29
  I would like to not get
• 49:30
  Brandan: blown.
• 49:30
  He didn't have much choice, though.
• 49:32
  The dude had, like, a free rush right at him on fourth down.
• 49:35
  Clinton: D- do you see the scoreboard, Brandan?
• 49:36
  Do you see it?
• 49:37
  Do you see it?
• 49:38
  Brandan: Yeah.
• 49:38
  Phil: This is Clinton's moment with the lead.
• 49:40
  Clinton: Does week one live?
• 49:41
  Brandan: Yeah.
• 49:42
  C- congrats on your, picking a, a closer game than me.
• 49:46
  Clinton: Yes.
• 49:47
  Phil: Yeah.
• 49:47
  Yes.
• 49:47
  He chose to make it a less gap, so that's how he got…
• 49:51
  And we were even giving him a hard time about it.
• 49:52
  It turned out granting him the win, so- Mm-hmm… you know.
• 49:56
  Brandan: I knew I was smoked as soon as, as Sam went down.
• 49:59
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 50:00
  Phil: Yeah, I was like, "Oh, Clinton won."
• 50:01
  Clinton: Kind of, yeah, kind of put that in a box.
• 50:03
  I agree.
• 50:04
  Phil: Okay.
• 50:05
  So Clinton has to pick first this week, though.
• 50:07
  Clinton: Okay.
• 50:07
  Phil: So what do you got for the score?
• 50:07
  Got it.
• 50:08
  Clinton: Got my score.
• 50:09
  Seahawks 20, Cardinals 16.
• 50:12
  By the way, Vegas says this, this is a four and a half
• 50:15
  point Seahawk, victory.
• 50:16
  Okay.
• 50:17
  So right there, 20 to 16.
• 50:19
  Closer than we want it to be, but we get out of the desert with the big W.
• 50:24
  Phil: 20 to 16 with our backup quarterback, who's kind
• 50:26
  of like their backup quarterback.
• 50:28
  but that's their starter.
• 50:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 50:30
  Brandan, 20 to 16, what's your pick?
• 50:33
  Brandan: Oh, I'm so happy you went with a four-point spread, because I
• 50:35
  am going with a three-point spread.
• 50:38
  I, I had already had it planned, too.
• 50:40
  But, 21-18 Seahawks get the dub, and, it's really only 18
• 50:46
  because they go for seven and get a two-point conversion at the end of
• 50:50
  the game to, to bring it up to 18.
• 50:51
  To
• 50:51
  Clinton: try to get to three.
• 50:52
  I like it.
• 50:52
  Brandan: Or, or-
• 50:53
  Clinton: I like it.
• 50:53
  If
• 50:53
  Brandan: that happens- Yeah, they go for, they get six and then get two.
• 50:55
  Yeah.
• 50:55
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 50:56
  Phil: Yeah.
• 50:56
  If that happens, I'll tip my cap.
• 50:57
  You got kind of a close game, but really we're up two scores, and they
• 50:59
  get one that it's not gonna- It doesn't happen very often, yeah… they gotta
• 51:01
  go for a onside kick at that point.
• 51:03
  Yeah.
• 51:03
  Like it.
• 51:05
  I, I feel that it's somewhere in that range.
• 51:07
  I, I think there's a world where we really shut them down.
• 51:10
  There's definitely a world where, where that happens.
• 51:12
  But, this is probably the wisest choices.
• 51:15
  Yeah.
• 51:15
  One score games.
• 51:15
  The
• 51:15
  Brandan: Cardinals cover.
• 51:16
  Congrats.
• 51:18
  Yeah.
• 51:19
  Phil: They, they can celebrate going into week three.
• 51:21
  Brandan: Yeah, we covered.
• 51:22
  Phil: We did it.
• 51:23
  We did it.
• 51:23
  Another upset.
• 51:24
  Yeah.
• 51:27
  That team with, you know, they had to deal with us.
• 51:29
  They had to come deal with us in here.
• 51:31
  Brandan: Yeah.
• 51:32
  Phil: All right, anything we missed you were hoping that I'd ask about
• 51:34
  that we didn't, that we didn't get to talk to you about, about the game?
• 51:37
  Any players on the cards that our fans need to know about?
• 51:40
  Brandan: I was, I was hoping that Clinton was gonna go with Jadarian
• 51:43
  Press- J- Jadarian Price just more rushing yards than Love, but, That's
• 51:47
  nice… I feel like with 105, then that's, that's pretty easily- That's a
• 51:50
  Phil: given… that that's gonna happen.
• 51:50
  Since nobody runs for 100 against us.
• 51:52
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 51:52
  Well, this is, this is about us.
• 51:54
  We, we don't care about what they do, right?
• 51:56
  So, no, that, that's a cool thing.
• 51:58
  No, I think we nailed it, man.
• 51:59
  I think there's…
• 51:59
  Again, I think in years past, the Cardinals are a laughing stock, and
• 52:04
  then the NFC West meme and the whole thing, the, the, you know, Ghidorah
• 52:07
  from Godzilla meme, and they might
• 52:10
  Brandan: be- Oh, did you notice- They might be better
• 52:11
  did you notice in the Discord somebody posted that, Jacoby
• 52:14
  Brissett's Wikipedia photo-
• 52:17
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 52:17
  It's
• 52:17
  Brandan: him playing
• 52:18
  Clinton: baseball… is him holding a baseball bat.
• 52:19
  Yeah.
• 52:19
  I did.
• 52:20
  I did.
• 52:21
  It's him playing baseball or softball.
• 52:22
  I think- 'Cause
• 52:23
  Brandan: the Cardinals are, just, like when you Google Cardinals
• 52:25
  Yeah… Cardinals schedule, it brings up the baseball schedule.
• 52:28
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 52:28
  They're always gonna be- That's-… second fiddle even in the sport they
• 52:31
  play, so, you know, they wanna wear their rivalry jerseys, and that's- And
• 52:36
  Phil: eat some tortillas
• 52:37
  … Clinton: that's cute.
• 52:38
  Now, what, what can we say?
• 52:39
  Like, that, that's cute.
• 52:40
  You wanna think they're- It's nice that we got
• 52:41
  Phil: chosen.
• 52:41
  We're their rivals.
• 52:42
  Clinton: Exactly.
• 52:43
  But that's cool.
• 52:43
  If we're your biggest rivals, then, well I guess, I guess we'll
• 52:46
  we'll tip our cap and say sure.
• 52:47
  We'll…
• 52:47
  and we'll treat you as such when we get out of there with a, with a W, boys.
• 52:51
  Phil: Yeah.
• 52:52
  Brandan: And I think with that
• 52:53
  Clinton: there's only one thing left to say.
• 52:54
  Phil: Go Hawks.
• 52:55
  Go Hawks.
• 52:56
  Go eat some tortillas.
• 52:57
  Clinton: Go Hawks.