Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / Donald Trump waives Russia sanctions as row with Zelensky intensifies
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. I'm Samantha Simmons. We start this hour
- 0:03Speaker 1: with the news that US President Donald Trump has used
- 0:06Speaker 1: his presidential authority to waive key sanctions against Russia and
- 0:10Speaker 1: a new law passed last month citing US national interests.
- 0:14Speaker 1: The restrictions, which included sanctions on key Russian leaders, including
- 0:18Speaker 1: President Putin, and entities controlled by the Russian government, were
- 0:22Speaker 1: due to come into force on Sunday. In a new
- 0:24Speaker 1: executive order, Mr Trump said the waivers would remain in
- 0:27Speaker 1: place until further notice. Let's get more on this from
- 0:31Speaker 1: our White House reporter, Bernd de Busman.
- 0:34Speaker 2: This bill that President Trump himself had signed last month
- 0:36Speaker 2: was due to go in effect in just two days.
- 0:39Speaker 2: It was meant to kind of essentially punish Russia, particularly
- 0:42Speaker 2: its energy sector, for having invaded Ukraine and as a
- 0:46Speaker 2: way to kind of choke Russia economically. Now, I mean,
- 0:50Speaker 2: President Trump has essentially put that on hold. And it
- 0:53Speaker 2: comes as his opinion of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky seems
- 0:58Speaker 2: to have very much... soured in the last few days.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Trump has essentially said that he sees Zelensky as an
- 1:04Speaker 2: obstacle to peace, that he doesn't actually want the fighting
- 1:08Speaker 2: to stop, and at one point even suggested that he
- 1:11Speaker 2: should no longer be president of Ukraine. So I think
- 1:14Speaker 2: within that context, it's very important to note that Trump,
- 1:18Speaker 2: his attitude towards Ukraine has changed in the last few days.
- 1:21Speaker 2: But also, he seemed in the last month or so
- 1:24Speaker 2: to really kind of turn towards Russian energy as a
- 1:28Speaker 2: potential way to kind of address some of the concerns
- 1:31Speaker 2: many American voters have ahead of the midterms of high
- 1:34Speaker 2: energy prices. He hasn't said, however, nor has the White House,
- 1:38Speaker 2: how putting these sanctions on hold is in the American
- 1:41Speaker 2: national interest. He didn't reference it at all during his
- 1:44Speaker 2: remarks in Georgia or later here in Mar-a-Lago later in
- 1:47Speaker 2: the evening.
- 1:49Speaker 1: And staying in Washington, the new White House press secretary,
- 1:52Speaker 1: Katie Zachariah, has left her job just five days after
- 1:56Speaker 1: taking up the post. Confirmation came after Mr Trump said
- 1:59Speaker 1: he'd told her she should reconsider staying in the role
- 2:02Speaker 1: after a bruising start. Ms Zachariah has faced growing scrutiny
- 2:06Speaker 1: after a lacklustre first press briefing lasting 14 minutes and
- 2:10Speaker 1: questions over her legal credentials. Our North America editor, Sarah Smith,
- 2:15Speaker 1: has the story.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Morning, Katie. Can we ask you a few questions?
- 2:19Speaker 4: On her first Friday at the White House, Katie Zachariah
- 2:23Speaker 4: did not yet know this was also her last day here.
- 2:25Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be working with President Trump and
- 2:29Speaker 2: on behalf of the American people.
- 2:31Speaker 4: Later, she was noticeably absent from President Trump's side.
- 2:35Speaker 5: And I said to Katie, just two minutes ago, I said, Katie,
- 2:38Speaker 5: you know, you don't have to do this if you
- 2:40Speaker 5: don't want. She said, this is a lot.
- 2:44Speaker 6: He didn't say she'd been sacked, but the news broke
- 2:46Speaker 6: minutes later. Press Secretary Katie Zachariah has been fired.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Katie Zachariah is, quote, transitioning out.
- 2:52Speaker 4: Who knows why she decided to give a press briefing
- 2:54Speaker 4: on her second day in the job when she was
- 2:56Speaker 4: obviously not ready for it.
- 2:58Speaker 5: Good morning.
- 2:59Speaker 6: Sticking rigidly to her script.
- 3:01Speaker 2: I am so honored to work for President Trump and
- 3:05Speaker 2: the American people.
- 3:07Speaker 4: She took questions from only three journalists and was unable
- 3:10Speaker 4: to answer an obvious question about Ukraine.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Has the US stopped sharing intel with Ukraine?
- 3:16Speaker 3: I'll have to get back to you on that.
- 3:18Speaker 4: Only 14 minutes long, this was the shortest briefing anyone
- 3:21Speaker 4: could remember. Katie Zachariah's problems then magnified when President Trump
- 3:27Speaker 4: was asked about her legal qualifications and where she had
- 3:29Speaker 4: passed the bar exam.
- 3:31Speaker 2: You said she's an attorney. Where did she pass the
- 3:33Speaker 2: bar exam?
- 3:34Speaker 6: Which state?
- 3:35Speaker 5: Which state?
- 3:36Speaker 2: China.
- 3:38Speaker 4: China, she said, when I moved to China. That is
- 3:42Speaker 4: not true, because it's not possible. An American cannot sit
- 3:45Speaker 4: a bar exam in China. Still more questions about that
- 3:49Speaker 4: bar exam and an appearance that did not save her job.
- 3:54Speaker 5: You took the bar exam, but you didn't pass the
- 3:57Speaker 5: bar exam, correct?
- 3:58Speaker 2: Yes, Sean.
- 4:01Speaker 5: Okay, did you ever take it a second time?
- 4:03Speaker 1: So for background.
- 4:05Speaker 3: You might well be thinking, Luke, why are we worried
- 4:08Speaker 3: about this when there are such serious issues facing the
- 4:12Speaker 3: world at the moment?
- 4:13Speaker 6: But that is the point.
- 4:15Speaker 3: When you have got big questions about the US involvement
- 4:19Speaker 3: with Iran and Ukraine or anything else, they need to
- 4:22Speaker 3: be handled by somebody who takes them seriously and knows
- 4:25Speaker 3: what they're doing, not someone who's become a laughingstock in
- 4:28Speaker 3: the job.
- 4:32Speaker 4: Less than three weeks before crucial midterm elections is a
- 4:36Speaker 4: really bad time to lose a press spokesperson.
- 4:38Speaker 6: Sarah Smith, BBC News, Washington.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Larry Gersten is a political scientist and professor emeritus at
- 4:45Speaker 1: San Jose State University. He says this has come at
- 4:49Speaker 1: a bad time for the president.
- 4:51Speaker 5: There's a short leash here for very good reasons. If
- 4:54Speaker 5: you think about all the problems that have piled up
- 4:57Speaker 5: for President Trump, the last thing he wants is a
- 4:59Speaker 5: distraction for somebody who can't handle the job of the
- 5:03Speaker 5: press person. In this case, clearly, image is important. He
- 5:07Speaker 5: wants somebody who looks good, who sounds good. This is
- 5:11Speaker 5: all about the Hollywood style that President Trump really appreciates,
- 5:15Speaker 5: the way all of his cabinet people look, look and
- 5:17Speaker 5: sound and act. She did not cut it. On top
- 5:21Speaker 5: of all the other issues that are plaguing the president
- 5:23Speaker 5: right now, it's the last thing he needed. And just
- 5:26Speaker 5: like that, he let her go.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Will it have any impact on him, on the midterms?
- 5:31Speaker 1: What are the sort of wider implications, if there are any?
- 5:35Speaker 5: It's not so much as it's going to have any
- 5:37Speaker 5: impact on the midterms. It's just not going to add
- 5:40Speaker 5: to all of the bigger issues that are already there.
- 5:43Speaker 5: The last thing he needs is distraction. Look, we start
- 5:46Speaker 5: with the tariffs. You then go ahead with Iran. You
- 5:50Speaker 5: talk about immigration. You talk about inflation. All of these
- 5:53Speaker 5: things have stacked up. The last thing President Trump needed
- 5:56Speaker 5: was yet another distraction– when he's running around the country
- 5:59Speaker 5: telling people, listen, things are okay. The gasoline prices are
- 6:04Speaker 5: going to go down. Everything's going to be okay. Trust me. Well,
- 6:08Speaker 5: right now, there is not a lot of trust given
- 6:11Speaker 5: the events of the last 15 months. President Trump just
- 6:14Speaker 5: doesn't have a lot of goodwill left. He's even lost
- 6:17Speaker 5: about 30% of the Republicans who voted for him in 2024.
- 6:22Speaker 5: So the last thing he needs is another distraction.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Larry, let's talk about this executive order signed on Friday night.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Donald Trump saying it's in the U.S. national interest to
- 6:33Speaker 1: withhold some of the sanctions against Russia. What's your assessment
- 6:38Speaker 1: of that? And we did know it was coming, but
- 6:41Speaker 1: how significant is it?
- 6:43Speaker 5: It fits in with the pattern. It fits in with
- 6:45Speaker 5: the pattern where all along President Trump has viewed that
- 6:49Speaker 5: President Putin is more correct on this entire mess than
- 6:52Speaker 5: President Zelensky. In fact, at one point, He actually said
- 6:55Speaker 5: President Zelensky started the war. We know that's not the case.
- 6:59Speaker 5: But that's how serious President Trump is about considering the needs,
- 7:04Speaker 5: the feelings, the wants of President Putin. And so once again,
- 7:07Speaker 5: he's saying we're going to head and we're not going
- 7:10Speaker 5: to take on all of those different rules that are
- 7:13Speaker 5: coming back. We'll let them slide for now, all those sanctions.
- 7:16Speaker 5: And instead, we will go ahead and keep things going
- 7:18Speaker 5: now with the gasoline, the diesel fuel, which, by the way,
- 7:22Speaker 5: most experts say is less than one day's worth of
- 7:25Speaker 5: fuel in the United States. So again, President Zelensky is
- 7:31Speaker 5: at the door wanting, needing, helping U.S. help, which they
- 7:35Speaker 5: had during the Biden administration. That's been largely cut off
- 7:39Speaker 5: during the Trump administration. One more example of Trump's concerns.
- 7:43Speaker 1: And I guess what is it going to mean for
- 7:45Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine, for President Zelensky's efforts to push
- 7:49Speaker 1: back the Russians?
- 7:51Speaker 5: It's tough. It's tough because obviously Zelensky is concerned that
- 7:55Speaker 5: this gives the Russians more money from their sales to
- 7:59Speaker 5: go ahead and get the things they need, whether it's weapons,
- 8:03Speaker 5: whether it's paying North Korean soldiers to be there. All
- 8:07Speaker 5: of these things all add up. The point is that
- 8:10Speaker 5: it leaves Zelensky out in the cold. He's already out
- 8:13Speaker 5: in the cold. He's run out of defensive weapons. He
- 8:16Speaker 5: needs help in getting through the winter and allowing the Russians...
- 8:21Speaker 5: This further advantage only makes it more difficult for President
- 8:25Speaker 5: Zelensky and the tough things that the Ukrainians are going
- 8:28Speaker 5: through right now.