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55KRC Wednesday Show - Ken Kober, Jack Atherton, AFP, Judge Napolitano · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: 505-55KRC, the talk station. Happy Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: Call Kenny Loggins because you're in the danger zone.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it is Wednesday and a very happy one to you.
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas right here. Glad to be. Feel free to
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Speaker 1: call me. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK or pound 550 on AT &
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Speaker 1: T phones. Love to hear from the listeners. And of course,
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Speaker 1: the topic of conversation can go really any direction because
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Speaker 1: it's like nine gajillion things to talk about. It's like
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Speaker 1: I mentioned before, you know, at the end of the week,
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Speaker 1: I've got this huge stack of documents and articles about
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Speaker 1: the size of a ream of paper of things that
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Speaker 1: I didn't even mention on the 55 KRC morning show
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Speaker 1: during the week. So a lot of volume. It just
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Speaker 1: becomes a question of what you want to focus on,
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Speaker 1: which is your choice often if you call in and
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Speaker 1: mention something. But beyond that, coming up, 6.30, the first
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Speaker 1: guest of the program this morning, Ken Kober, FOP President
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Speaker 1: Ken Kober, representing the Union for the Cincinnati Police Department.
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Speaker 1: We will be talking about violence in and around downtown Cincinnati,
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Speaker 1: specifically University of Cincinnati. Was that guy stabbed on the streetcar, Joe,
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Speaker 1: or did he get on the streetcar after being stabbed?
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Speaker 1: It was on the route, yeah. I just sent him
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Speaker 1: a picture. It was a headline, and it suggested that
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Speaker 1: the guy got stabbed on the streetcar. And I asked Joe, jokingly,
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Speaker 1: I said, is it too early for me to experience schadenfreude? Because,
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Speaker 1: of course, you've got violence downtown, which is pathetic and sad.
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Speaker 1: And if we had law enforcement or if we had
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Speaker 1: a justice system that actually cared about punishing people who
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Speaker 1: commit crimes, we might have a lower crime rate in
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Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati. That coupled with the stupidity that is and
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Speaker 1: always has been the streetcar is like made for sort
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Speaker 1: of a momentary brief feeling of schadenfreude. So anyway, details
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Speaker 1: out now. We have local stories at the bottom of
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Speaker 1: the hour to talk about that a little bit, but
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Speaker 1: also talk about it with Ken Culber. What's going on
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Speaker 1: down there? Increased walking patrols. I know they're talking about that.
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Speaker 1: And I thought this was rather interesting. Elliot Isaac, the
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Speaker 1: chief of the University of Cincinnati Police Department, pointed out
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Speaker 1: that UC Police, University of Cincinnati Police, have doubled their
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Speaker 1: deployment in the area, and the university spends $ 1 million
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Speaker 1: a year to hire off-duty Cincinnati police for additional support.
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Speaker 1: I'm scratching my head over that. I've got to ask
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Speaker 1: Ken about that because my understanding is the, well, because
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Speaker 1: the number of police officers is below the amount necessary
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Speaker 1: to police the city of Cincinnati, that the 200 or
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Speaker 1: so fewer officers they have result in a lot of
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Speaker 1: the regular, still employed with the Cincinnati Police Department officers,
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Speaker 1: working a lot of overtime. An exhausting amount of overtime.
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Speaker 1: And I guess maybe they're also working at University of Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: It's double extra overtime. So anyhow, we need more police officers.
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Speaker 1: And look, more police equals less crime.
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Speaker 3: Huh?
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Speaker 1: Whatever happened to the defund of police people? I guess
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Speaker 1: their narrative was nonsensical. Yeah, it always was. Jack Edelman's
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Speaker 1: on today at 7.05. Of course, we get the big
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Speaker 1: picture every week with the brilliant Jack Edelman. Today, he will...
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Speaker 1: Headlong dive on into the topic. Vivek's ancestry. I'm disturbed
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Speaker 1: as I can be that anybody in my listening audience
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Speaker 1: would look at that man and say, I'm not voting
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Speaker 1: for him because of the color of his skin or
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Speaker 1: his religion. And I've heard it directly from people. I've
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Speaker 1: said it out loud on the morning show that people
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Speaker 1: have actually said that out loud. Matter of fact, we
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Speaker 1: had a caller that pretty much said exactly that. I'm appalled.
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Speaker 4: Jeez Louise.
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Speaker 1: Racist much?
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Speaker 3: Huh.
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Speaker 1: Donald Leo Americans for prosperity. He's the state director of
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Speaker 1: AFP action here in Ohio. We hear from him every
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Speaker 1: Wednesday at seven 30. Today we talk about the gas
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Speaker 1: relief proposal. That is get rid of the gas tax
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Speaker 1: here in Ohio. More people embracing that Ramaswamy and Amy
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Speaker 1: Acton both came out in favor of getting rid of
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Speaker 1: the gas tax for a period of time. Um, I
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Speaker 1: know Tom Zawistowski has been asking for that for a long,
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Speaker 1: long time. If you didn't get to hear him yesterday,
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Speaker 1: that one. Donovan will also talk about the Houston Brown race,
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Speaker 1: and it looks terrible for Houston because Sherrod Brown is
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Speaker 1: actually ahead in every single poll I've seen. And yes,
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Speaker 1: I will qualify that statement by acknowledging that I don't
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Speaker 1: believe polls either, but there's got to be one out
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Speaker 1: there that's even close to correct. And since all of
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Speaker 1: them that I have seen that have been reported anyway
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Speaker 1: that cross my field of vision show Sherrod Brown ahead,
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Speaker 1: I am a little worried about that one. I don't
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Speaker 1: get it, don't understand it. Sherrod Brown is as left
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Speaker 1: as they come, and you are guaranteeing yourself a vote
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Speaker 1: for all the woke ideology that exists out in the world.
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Speaker 1: And what's more, anything else those left-wing nutcases can come
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Speaker 1: up with down the road, he'll be in favor of it.
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Speaker 1: If or nor the reason, I'll just get pressure to
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Speaker 1: vote for it, but his record is well-documented. I'm almost 100%
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Speaker 1: always voting with Democrats on every single issue. The word
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Speaker 1: bipartisan does not enter into the realm of Sherrod Brown, period,
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Speaker 1: end of story. Judge Anna Napolitano, I've got a lot
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Speaker 1: to talk about with Judge Napolitano, and that'll happen at 8.30. So, tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: Warren Davidson returns, plus I heard me, aviation expert Jay Ratliff,
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Speaker 1: and I miss having him. So, annihilation. Did you hear
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Speaker 1: nuclear bombs dropping on Iran That's kind of what I
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Speaker 1: heard through Donald Trump's comments yesterday. A little disturbing because
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Speaker 1: I want to know how you make good on it. Now,
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Speaker 1: he has threatened the Iranians with complete destruction before, only
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Speaker 1: to say, you know, like diplomacy, they want to get
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Speaker 1: a deal. And so it's back and forth and back
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Speaker 1: and forth. So yet for the how many times he's
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Speaker 1: made a statement like this. But now I have a
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Speaker 1: big decision to make. This is before the United Nations.
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Speaker 1: Will a deal be made with Iran that lets them
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Speaker 1: rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever
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Speaker 1: was before? Maybe. be one of the greatest in the
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Speaker 1: Middle East or even the world? Or do I annihilate
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Speaker 1: the Islamic Republic and do it quickly, never giving them
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Speaker 1: a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again?
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Speaker 1: Do I drive them into hell with no chance of
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Speaker 1: survival and no hope of future greatness or generations? How
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Speaker 1: does one do that? Now, whether or not you like
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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis or agree with his conclusions, let's focus on
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Speaker 1: the reality. Yes, Iran is a huge country. What is it,
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Speaker 1: 2.4 times the size of Texas? The landscape is difficult
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Speaker 1: to navigate. The terrain is rocky, hilly, mountainous. We've dealt
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Speaker 1: with this before. Remember all the time we spent in Afghanistan? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: how well did we do there when we pulled the
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Speaker 1: plug and left? Yeah, right, I know. They're back in control,
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Speaker 1: or at least we didn't seem to have accomplished anything.
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Speaker 1: Same thing after 10 years with the Russians being there.
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Speaker 1: We didn't learn a lesson from that. So tenacious people
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Speaker 1: with ideological willpower in the mountains with AK-47s can really
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Speaker 1: hold off a large army that has nuclear weapons. Going
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Speaker 1: back to the point about Donald Trump making the other
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Speaker 1: day about annihilating the Islamic Republic and driving them into hell,
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Speaker 1: that suggests to me a nuclear weapon because, again, going
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Speaker 1: to the foregoing amount of land, you would certainly need
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Speaker 1: boots on the ground, I would imagine, to conquer or
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Speaker 1: wipe Iran off the map. There's that pesky question mark
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Speaker 1: floating around there about whether or not we've run out
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Speaker 1: or are running out of sufficient munitions to deal with
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Speaker 1: the global challenges that the United States faces every single
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Speaker 1: day beyond just Iran. I know Donald Trump said we've
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Speaker 1: got all the weapons in the world. Now, you go
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Speaker 1: ahead and struggle and figure out who's right on that.
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Speaker 1: Why would we engage in multi-billion dollar contracts with the
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Speaker 1: arms manufacturers to increase production dramatically and if we had
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Speaker 1: all the munitions we needed. See, this is where I
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Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, I'm just trying to be a
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Speaker 1: realist here. But if you're going to make good on
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Speaker 1: the threat to annihilate Iran, don't you think maybe, and
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Speaker 1: I'm not asking to reveal military secrets or how the
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Speaker 1: war would be waged and the specifics of any operations.
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Speaker 1: We don't want to put our troops in jeopardy, but
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Speaker 1: what are we going to do to achieve that? Because
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Speaker 1: I don't think the Iranians are going to listen to him.
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Speaker 1: He acknowledged that they're going to wait until after the election,
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Speaker 1: and I thought he did a great job yesterday saying, listen,
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Speaker 1: They can wait out the election, and I can get
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Speaker 1: my ass handed to me. My word's not his, but
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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. I'm commander-in-chief, and I'm going to be
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Speaker 1: in this role as commander-in-chief until the end of my term.
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Speaker 1: You've got two-plus years left of Donald Trump, Iranian, so
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Speaker 1: screw you. Go ahead. If the Democrats take over, they
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Speaker 1: can't do anything to me. Question. Could they pull the
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Speaker 1: plug on funding? I think that is certainly a possibility.
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Speaker 1: They're going to have to get bipartisan approval on that,
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Speaker 1: although more Republicans are suggesting we need to pull the
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Speaker 1: plug on the entire operation. Now, there's good reasons for that.
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Speaker 1: The law, for example, we go back to Congressman Massey
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Speaker 1: and others who realize that, hmm, first there's the Constitution
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Speaker 1: and declarations of war, and then if you believe it
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Speaker 1: is constitutional because it's never been tested in court, the
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Speaker 1: War Powers Resolution 1973 has some obligations legal to either, well,
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Speaker 1: get congressional approval after a certain period of time or
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Speaker 1: pull the plug. That's what the law says. And if
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Speaker 1: you get a Democrat-controlled Congress, you get a Democrat-controlled House
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Speaker 1: and Senate, which is possible, you might get a, well,
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Speaker 1: more than 50% vote to pull the plug or enforce
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Speaker 1: the War Powers Resolution or just otherwise just not fund
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Speaker 1: the conflict, which means Donald Trump will be backed into
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Speaker 1: a corner, I suppose, unless he defies the will of Congress,
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Speaker 1: which would create a real challenge here, a constitutional crisis.
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Speaker 1: of a high magnitude. The law says one thing. If
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Speaker 1: our elected officials say, here, we're going to enforce the law,
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Speaker 1: what can be done? If the commander-in-chief ignores it, And
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Speaker 1: then you'll go back to the whole idea that Napolitano
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Speaker 1: has advanced before, going ahead and engaging in and listening
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Speaker 1: to illegal directives in warfare. Can't follow illegal orders. So
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Speaker 1: there's that argument as well. So if Congress speaks at
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Speaker 1: some point in time and says, no, you cannot do that,
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Speaker 1: maybe under the War Powers Resolution, and he goes ahead
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Speaker 1: and tries to do something like, The generals, I suppose,
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Speaker 1: are going to have to say, no, Donald Trump, I
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Speaker 1: can't do that. Congress enforced the law. Where would we
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Speaker 1: be at that point? So November may mean something a
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Speaker 1: little bit more, but I thought it was at least
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Speaker 1: a good point he told the Iranians. I personally do
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Speaker 1: not care. And there'll be some political repercussions for folks
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Speaker 1: after November, assuming that the Democrats win a majority in
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Speaker 1: both the House and Senate. They're going to have some
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Speaker 1: hard questions to ask themselves before they hastily go ahead
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Speaker 1: and tell Trump to pull the plug on the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: Allowing Iran to go back to where it was, maybe
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Speaker 1: start up the nuclear program again? Difficult and challenging questions
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Speaker 1: need to be answered. Anyway, I thought he did a
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Speaker 1: nice job rattling off his accomplishments, too, which he also
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Speaker 1: sent out on Truth Social Media, the top 25 Trump
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Speaker 1: achievements between 25 and 26 years. Pretty substantial list, if
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Speaker 1: you get right down to it. You say what you
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Speaker 1: want about Donald Trump, the man, but he has accomplished
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Speaker 1: a lot in a very short period of time. It's 517.
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Speaker 3: 55KRC.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Big Blue Nation. Of course it is. Beginning last
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Speaker 1: night around 8 p.m., right? 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on
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Speaker 1: AT & T phones. Trump renamed artificial intelligence yesterday. Now
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Speaker 1: it's super intelligence. Will the world gather around that call?
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to hold my breath for that one. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: obviously we've got a social media problem in this country,
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Speaker 1: and I thought this was rather interesting locally. University of
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati has been the site of a lot of violence,
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Speaker 1: as I indicated before. Earlier we were going to have
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Speaker 1: Dan Hills talk, or Ken Cobra, rather, talking about violence
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Speaker 1: around University of Cincinnati. Uh, unauthorized parties, organizing unauthorized parties.
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Speaker 1: You can do that real quickly on social media. Shocking.
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Speaker 3: No one.
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Speaker 1: How about that? So some of the violence driven by
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Speaker 1: events organized on social media that attracted large crowds, some
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Speaker 1: events falsely appear to be organized by university of Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: They got a guy. They found a guy, his name,
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Speaker 1: Ronquez Benton. He's 25, and they've identified him and arrested
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Speaker 1: him in connection with organizing these big events. One dude
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Speaker 1: goes out on social media, tells people there's a party
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Speaker 1: going on at X location, and everybody shows up. Pretty
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Speaker 1: much fundamentally what it boils down to. They say some
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Speaker 1: of the events falsely appear to be organized by the
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Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati, so he wasn't exactly telling the truth.
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Speaker 1: UC's having an official event, that kind of thing. And
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Speaker 1: he also pointed out that the site could rapidly change
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Speaker 1: the organizers, or in this case, one guy could change
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Speaker 1: the location of the events rapidly on social media. So
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Speaker 1: one post says it's over here. You know, five minutes later,
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Speaker 1: the post says, no, no, no, no, we're going to
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Speaker 1: be over there as opposed to the former place, thus
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Speaker 1: making it harder for police to manage the event and
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Speaker 1: monitor the location and information and what's going on. I
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Speaker 1: get that. So Ronquez Benton, who's 25, was identified. They
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Speaker 1: went and they talked to him. Interim Police Chief Henney,
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Speaker 1: people are getting hurt. The real lives are at stake here,
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Speaker 1: they told him. They met with him, tried to convince
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Speaker 1: him to stop doing this. But apparently, according to the
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Speaker 1: statement from Henney, he did not heed the warning, made
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Speaker 1: another post the weekend after police met with him in
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Speaker 1: blatant defiance of what they asked him to do. Benton,
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Speaker 1: arrested near UC's campus and charged with criminal trespass, Related
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Speaker 1: to hosting an unauthorized party. See, now I was wondering
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Speaker 1: because I had read that this guy got arrested and
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Speaker 1: I thought they maybe tried to arrest him for simply
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Speaker 1: making social media posts about having an event. Criminal trespass.
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Speaker 1: If you go to a place where you're not entitled
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Speaker 1: to be and there's a law on the books that
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Speaker 1: says that, then you can of course get arrested for that.
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Speaker 1: Can you get arrested for asking people to meet at
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Speaker 1: a certain location? We have, you know, Constitutional right to
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Speaker 1: freedom of assembly. And that's kind of where the Constitution
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Speaker 1: runs headlong into a social problem we're having. These large
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Speaker 1: instantaneous gatherings based on a social media post. I guess
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Speaker 1: people are just generally sheeple. Because one guy, Ron Quez Benton, says,
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Speaker 1: show up here. You all go do it. Joe, I
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Speaker 1: saw we're getting a new skate park. Maybe more skate
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Speaker 1: parks will stop this kind of thing from happening. At
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Speaker 1: least three more are needed. I think you're right, Joe.
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Speaker 1: You may be on to something. Anyway, apparently during the
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Speaker 1: September 11th arrest, Benton had a long gun. Which, because
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Speaker 1: we have the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms,
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Speaker 1: not necessarily a problem, but He has prior convictions. He
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Speaker 1: was convicted of gross sexual imposition back in 2024. So, ergo,
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Speaker 1: he had weapons under disability by carrying the long gun
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Speaker 1: or concealed weapons, so he could have charged with that too.
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Speaker 1: And he said, you know, this individual was not only
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Speaker 1: putting these parties together, but was also bringing weapons to
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Speaker 1: the scene, which could have obviously had a horrible effect.
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Speaker 1: We have not seen any additional social media posts since
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Speaker 1: the arrest. Of course not. But guns are pretty much everywhere.
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Speaker 1: Most gatherings, I assure you, include people with firearms. And
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Speaker 1: sometimes I take comfort in that, like listener lunch. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're going to have a horrible effect if
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Speaker 1: you bring weapons to any given event. If people are
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Speaker 1: inclined to act criminally and they have shown a predisposition
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Speaker 1: to criminal behavior... perhaps that person may be more likely
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Speaker 1: to use a firearm criminally. There's a certain logic in that,
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Speaker 1: which is why we need to treat recidivist criminals harshly
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Speaker 1: Good to hear from you, man.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom. So you get a per diem to
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Speaker 1: cover that hotel expense?
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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, I wouldn't be out here. And I am
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Speaker 5: not driving two and a half hours to work.
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Speaker 3: That's not happening.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a long commute.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Although, you know, on that note, on that note, you know,
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Speaker 1: you've got to take into account here, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: sing the praises of the greater Cincinnati area because having
17:57
Speaker 1: lived in Chicago and experienced literally everywhere you went, you
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Speaker 1: just had to default, it was going to be an
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Speaker 1: hour to get wherever the hell you were going to go.
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Speaker 1: And we used to work with folks in New York.
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Speaker 1: It was a huge accounting firm we had on a case.
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Speaker 1: And the guys that worked lived in the exurbs, you know,
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Speaker 1: outside the greater Manhattan area but had to commute in
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Speaker 1: every day. There were people that literally had a two-hour
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Speaker 1: commute each way just so they could have a home
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Speaker 1: out in the burbs. Four hours a day on a train?
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? No, thank you.
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Speaker 5: That's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Just be thankful for where you live.
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Speaker 5: You know, everybody's got their different life, and they have
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Speaker 5: their reasons for what they do. Hey, if you're getting
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Speaker 5: up in the morning, and I've been meaning to say something,
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Speaker 5: if you're going to get your butt up in the
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Speaker 5: morning and go to work, and you're going to show
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Speaker 5: up on time and do your job, well, kudos to you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: Regardless of what your job is, regardless of what your
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Speaker 5: situation is, you're getting your butt out of bed. and
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Speaker 5: you are going to work and making money to support
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Speaker 5: yourself and your family.
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Speaker 1: Be proud of it.
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Speaker 5: I can't really give people too much crap for doing that.
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Speaker 5: I might not agree. I might not do what they're doing, but, hey,
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Speaker 5: at least they're getting up and doing something.
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Speaker 1: That is true. And I'm not saying they weren't well paid.
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Speaker 1: You'd have to pay me more than I can even
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Speaker 1: think up in my mind to commute two hours each
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Speaker 1: way every single day. You know, I got a life
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Speaker 1: to live.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy. That seems like a lot of wasted time.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't it? Totally. They did work on the train, though.
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Speaker 5: Your two main stories that you were talking about with
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Speaker 5: Trump and Iran and then this guy organizing parties, there's
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Speaker 5: a common theme, and you have people who want to
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Speaker 5: do what they want to do. They don't care what
19:48
Speaker 5: anybody else thinks about it. and they even know it's wrong,
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Speaker 5: or at least they should. And then you have people
19:55
Speaker 5: who have to hold them accountable, who have to try
19:58
Speaker 5: to stop them from doing what they're doing. So obviously
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Speaker 5: the leadership in Iran, they don't care what anybody else thinks.
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Speaker 5: They want to do whatever they want to do. including
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Speaker 5: terrorism and whatever else they decide they want to engage
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Speaker 5: in to inflict whatever on anybody else to push their
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Speaker 5: agenda and to, you know, flex and let everybody know that,
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Speaker 5: you know, hey, we're Iranians and we're going to blow
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Speaker 5: this up or we're going to kill these people or whatever.
20:30
Speaker 5: And somebody's got to stop them. Somebody has to stand
20:32
Speaker 5: up and say, no, we're not going to tolerate that.
20:35
Speaker 5: And I know you have all the– The different rules
20:39
Speaker 5: in the world and the different treaties and stuff like that,
20:43
Speaker 5: you have to consider. And if a president in the
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Speaker 5: United States wants to do something about it, he's got
20:48
Speaker 5: all the political things he's got to deal with. But
20:51
Speaker 5: it comes down to Trump, in this case, decided we're
20:54
Speaker 5: not going to tolerate this. We're not going to let
20:56
Speaker 5: you get away with this. You're killing people. You're stepping
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Speaker 5: outside your boundaries and you're doing stuff, and we're not
21:03
Speaker 5: going to allow it to happen anymore. And that's behind it.
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Speaker 5: Trump is not a person who's going to just, oh,
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Speaker 5: you're not going to give up? Okay, well, fine. No,
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Speaker 5: he's going to be just as defiant as they are,
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Speaker 5: but he's on the side of right.
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Speaker 1: And the corollary to that is, okay, so he may
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Speaker 1: be rogue, he may be in defiance, many argue and
21:26
Speaker 1: have been arguing in defiance of United States laws, like
21:29
Speaker 1: the War Powers Act or resolution, or maybe even the Constitution,
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Speaker 1: but We've had so much leeway given to presidents since
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Speaker 1: post-World War II that this is not the first time
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Speaker 1: a president has done this without congressional approval. So you
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Speaker 1: got that. That's on his side, at least from a
21:43
Speaker 1: historic standpoint. Both Republican and Democrats have done it. Somebody's
21:47
Speaker 1: got to do it, I know he thought. And I
21:49
Speaker 1: know we can blow up the mountains so we get
21:50
Speaker 1: the nuclear program. Let's get it going. Let's kill the leadership.
21:53
Speaker 1: We found out they were all together at a picnic
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Speaker 1: in one spot, so let's blow them up. Maybe we
21:58
Speaker 1: can get the rest of the Middle East to wake
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Speaker 1: up that if we get Iran settled and eradicated, at
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Speaker 1: least from a minister, from a regime standpoint, everybody else
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Speaker 1: can enjoy the beauties and the benefits of peace. No
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Speaker 1: more evil Iranians supporting terrorist organizations that are ruining life
22:16
Speaker 1: for all of these surrounding countries. I mean, if you
22:19
Speaker 1: took Israel out of the equation and we didn't have
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Speaker 1: this whole Israel existence issue, I think every single Arab
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Speaker 1: country would be unified in opposition to what the Iranians
22:29
Speaker 1: are doing because it will be in their best interest, right? Well,
22:33
Speaker 1: yesterday he sat down and met with most of them,
22:35
Speaker 1: so maybe we're getting to that point. Maybe the Saudi
22:37
Speaker 1: Arabians are sick of getting their infrastructure blown up by
22:41
Speaker 1: the Namhouthis. You know, we have had enough. We, the
22:43
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabians, are going to just sort of sit back
22:45
Speaker 1: and say, you know what? We're going to join in
22:47
Speaker 1: the fun and stop the Iranians. Okay, let's get everybody
22:50
Speaker 1: welcome to the party. Let's stop the Iranians without having
22:52
Speaker 1: to drop nuclear weapons and end this nonsense. And then
22:55
Speaker 1: turn the whole region into one peaceful, you know, nirvana
22:59
Speaker 1: or something.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that sounds like a great idea. And
23:06
Speaker 5: that's what it seems to be the direction that Trump's
23:09
Speaker 5: trying to push it in.
23:10
Speaker 1: I hope he can get there.
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Speaker 5: And the same on a smaller level, like you were
23:14
Speaker 5: talking about the story with the guy organizing the parties.
23:17
Speaker 5: Somebody's got to stop them. Somebody's got to put their
23:21
Speaker 5: foot down and say enough's enough. Whether it's that or
23:23
Speaker 5: any other kind of crime going on, you have to
23:25
Speaker 5: have people just to put their foot down and say
23:28
Speaker 5: enough's enough. And the people that are around who are
23:31
Speaker 5: thinking about doing stuff illegally, they need to see that.
23:35
Speaker 5: If they don't see that, they're going to keep going.
23:37
Speaker 5: They're going to keep doing stuff. It's just going to
23:38
Speaker 5: keep getting worse. So we've got to put our foot
23:41
Speaker 5: down and say enough is enough of this garbage. And
23:43
Speaker 5: when you're looking at November's election and you've seen all
23:46
Speaker 5: the garbage that we've been dealing with and all the
23:48
Speaker 5: stuff that the Democrats have been pushing, you've got to
23:51
Speaker 5: put your foot down and say enough is enough. We're
23:53
Speaker 5: not going to tolerate it anymore. Don't vote Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Have a great day. And I don't want my daughter
23:58
Speaker 1: playing against a very hairy man who claims to be
24:01
Speaker 1: a chick. There's another reason. 536-55-KRC, the talk station. Stack
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Speaker 1: It's 5 41 55 krc the talk station update of
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Speaker 1: the morning show lineup after the judge ended up all
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Speaker 1: the time good morning laura right she's going to tell
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Speaker 1: us all about the bulldog rescue apparently having the fifth
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Speaker 1: anniversary party the badass bulldog a party we'll learn the
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Speaker 1: details on that rescue a dog don't buy real puppy
24:34
Speaker 1: milk There are so many awesome dogs out there. I
24:37
Speaker 1: know this because we've adopted and rescued several over the
24:41
Speaker 1: years and worked out great. Plus, you feel really good
24:44
Speaker 1: having done a great service for the dog. One of
24:48
Speaker 1: our dogs is so abused. There are so many pitiful,
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Speaker 1: hot spot in hell reserved people out in the world
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Speaker 1: who would abuse animals. Anyway, we'll hear from Laura later
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Speaker 1: at the end of the program. Good morning, Laura. Stupid time.
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Speaker 1: Woman in Kansas City sentenced after replacing her one-month-old In
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Speaker 1: an oven rather than a crib. Why are you doing that?
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Speaker 1: You'll never find out. Maria Thomas, no relation. Sentenced 13
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Speaker 1: years for the felony charge of endangering the welfare of
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Speaker 1: a child resulting in death. Pleaded guilty yesterday. Accepted her sentence.
25:22
Speaker 1: The first degree murder charge was dismissed because of the
25:26
Speaker 1: plea agreement. Poor child died February 24th. Officers went to
25:30
Speaker 1: the home after the report that an infant wasn't breathing.
25:32
Speaker 1: Baby was found dead at the scene. Detectives said the
25:34
Speaker 1: circumstances were suspicious enough to cause concern, leading to an investigation. Reportedly,
25:40
Speaker 1: first responders at the scene noticed burns on the child
25:43
Speaker 1: who wasn't breathing when they showed up. They said Thomas
25:48
Speaker 1: told them that she was putting the child down for
25:50
Speaker 1: a nap, but accidentally put the child in the oven
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Speaker 1: instead of the crib. That's it. That's the whole story.
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Speaker 1: 13 years. Gee, it's burning hot in there. Maybe I
26:07
Speaker 1: shouldn't put the baby in. Oh, it doesn't look like
26:09
Speaker 1: a crib. Anyway, Clarksburg, West Virginia. You got a woman
26:12
Speaker 1: there accused of crashing her vehicle while impaired. Sydney Healy, 31.
26:16
Speaker 1: That's no big deal, though, but she's been charged with
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Speaker 1: child neglect, creating a substantial risk of injury or death.
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Speaker 1: Deputies responded to a single vehicle crash last weekend in Clarksburg.
26:27
Speaker 1: Our dispatch notified the deputies that the driver, identified later
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Speaker 1: as Healy, had run away from the scene. Specifically, she
26:35
Speaker 1: ran into the woods, leaving a child behind in the
26:39
Speaker 1: car and showing no care for the child's welfare.
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Speaker 3: What?
26:43
Speaker 1: Deputies checked on the child. Fortunately, the child was not hurt,
26:45
Speaker 1: but also was not wearing a seatbelt. The child specifically
26:48
Speaker 1: told deputies that, and they refer to the child as they. Now,
26:51
Speaker 1: they didn't identify the gender of the child, so I
26:53
Speaker 1: guess maybe that's why. But here's the sentence. The child
26:56
Speaker 1: told deputies... They did not know how the vehicle crashed
26:59
Speaker 1: because they were looking at a phone. That's a singular
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Speaker 1: child referred to as more than one. Maybe it's a
27:04
Speaker 1: gender pronoun thing, although I seriously doubt that anyway. Specifically,
27:09
Speaker 1: deputies told Haley's white Chevy Malibu had some damage to it.
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Speaker 1: She was later found hiding in the woods where deputies
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Speaker 1: did administer a field sobriety test and noted that she
27:19
Speaker 1: was showing signs of impairment. Held in the North Regional
27:22
Speaker 1: Jail on a $ 50, 000 bond. Obviously not here in Hamilton County, Ohio.
27:34
Speaker 1: Let's see here. Like yesterday. Playboy.com, Joe. You were taken
27:45
Speaker 1: by the headline, I imagine, weren't you? One in three
27:50
Speaker 1: Gen Z men hasn't, I'll just insert the words, pleasured
27:54
Speaker 1: themselves in 90 days or themselves. One in three. If
28:00
Speaker 1: not engaged in an act of self-pleasure over the past
28:02
Speaker 1: 90 days, apparently this is a strike. It's a viral trend.
28:15
Speaker 1: Recommendation that you don't do that. You got to do
28:18
Speaker 1: what you want. This, I suppose, is a development. Fewer
28:21
Speaker 1: men are engaging in that type of behavior. Researchers are shocked.
28:26
Speaker 1: And Joe Strecker, in a state of disbelief, 545. Don't
28:30
Speaker 1: go away. More stupid coming up. 55KRC, the talk station. 55KRC,
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Speaker 1: the talk station. It's 549 at 55KRC, the talk station.
28:43
Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. Back to the stack of stupid. Where we
28:47
Speaker 1: typically find ourselves in Florida. And that's where we are
28:49
Speaker 1: with this one. Got a man arrested Saturday in connection
28:52
Speaker 1: with a shooting taking place during a custody exchange. This
28:55
Speaker 1: is a residential news.
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Speaker 4: Ah, Joe Strecker.
28:59
Speaker 1: If they'd only listened to that. Anyway, Bay Ridge Courts,
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Speaker 1: the area of the location in this suburban neighborhood. Sheriff's
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Speaker 1: office said on Friday, 32-year-old Darius Engla Winard Kirkland. Close enough.
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 1: Anyway, Mr. Kirkland, accompanied by his girlfriend, were there for
29:20
Speaker 1: a regularly scheduled child custody exchange with her, the girlfriend's
29:25
Speaker 1: estranged husband. You can see this is not going to
29:27
Speaker 1: go well. Sheriff's office reported that Kirkland, a convicted felon
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Speaker 1: not able to own firearms legally, nonetheless armed himself with
29:37
Speaker 1: an AR-style rifle as well as a semi-automatic pistol before
29:41
Speaker 1: the custody exchange. After the dad got there, the ex
29:48
Speaker 1: of the girlfriend, right, the young child of Kirkland's girlfriend,
29:51
Speaker 1: still have to keep track of the baby mama situation
29:54
Speaker 1: going on here, Anyway, this kid got out of the
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Speaker 1: vehicle and began walking toward her father's car, at which
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Speaker 1: time Kirkland exited the vehicle with his rifle in his hand,
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Speaker 1: pointing it at the father's car as he was getting
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Speaker 1: out of the car. Kirkland then fired the rifle numerous
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Speaker 1: times at the father, who then returned fire with his
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Speaker 1: own pistol, then retreated into a neighboring yard. Sheriff's office
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Speaker 1: says the father's vehicle was struck by bullets numerous times
30:19
Speaker 1: while another young child was inside the car. Several houses
30:24
Speaker 1: also got hit by stray bullets. During the exchange of gunfire,
30:28
Speaker 1: Kirkland's girlfriend was able to retrieve both children and get
30:31
Speaker 1: them to safety. Now, unfortunately, nobody got injured in the shootout,
30:34
Speaker 1: and I find that a little hard to believe, considering
30:36
Speaker 1: how easy and accurate an AR-style rifle is, and being
30:39
Speaker 1: so close to the intended target. Thank God these people
30:43
Speaker 1: did not go to the firing range, at least once
30:45
Speaker 1: even in their lives. At least that's my presumption. Huh. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: Clay County Sheriff's Office said the father returned to the
30:51
Speaker 1: scene after the incident and surrendered to the deputies. Kirkland
30:53
Speaker 1: fled the scene in his girlfriend's vehicle. Get a load
30:55
Speaker 1: of this. But he crashed into a tree before attempting
31:01
Speaker 1: to hide in the yard of a nearby residence. The
31:03
Speaker 1: vehicle and tree both caught fire from the crash, as
31:09
Speaker 1: well as an unoccupied vehicle that was parked nearby. Fire
31:12
Speaker 1: department showed up. Both vehicles, though, had been fully engulfed
31:15
Speaker 1: in flames before the fires could be extinguished. Kirkland apprehended
31:19
Speaker 1: with the help of community members. Neighborhood got together in unity.
31:25
Speaker 1: Detectives interviewed Kirkland, who was injured during the incident. After
31:28
Speaker 1: getting medical treatment, Kirkland was arrested by the sheriff's office,
31:31
Speaker 1: charged with attempted murder, possession of a firearm by a
31:33
Speaker 1: convicted felon, and, of course, child abuse.
31:40
Speaker 3: Wow.
31:40
Speaker 1: Dude, what the hell? Okay. A woman told police that
31:47
Speaker 1: Someone put a baggie of cocaine. Thank you, Joe Strecker.
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Speaker 1: In her, during a specific, some would argue rather perverted
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Speaker 1: sexual act. See, I'm dancing around FCC compliance, Joseph.
32:07
Speaker 3: Anyway.
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Speaker 2: There's no flag for us.
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Speaker 1: Well, in this case, actually, I think there is, Joe.
32:13
Speaker 1: During a court hearing. Reagan Cox, 30, entered a no-contest
32:16
Speaker 1: plea to introducing contraband into a jail and obstruction charges.
32:23
Speaker 1: She was placed on probation for 18 months by the
32:26
Speaker 1: circuit court judge who fined her $ 700, also sentenced to
32:30
Speaker 1: 70 days in jail. After being arrested during a traffic stop,
32:33
Speaker 1: here's the back story. Her car was spotted veering across
32:37
Speaker 1: the roadway, which led to the traffic stop. The, quote,
32:39
Speaker 1: slow and lethargic, close quote, Cox transported to county jail.
32:43
Speaker 1: where the intake process included a pass-through X-ray scanner screening
32:48
Speaker 1: looking for contraband, for example, weapons, phones, and, of course, drugs.
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Speaker 1: Jailers then spotted what they determined was an anomaly in Cox's, quote,
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Speaker 1: lower region, close quote. Phrasing. Subsequent search by the jailer
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Speaker 1: located a small baggie with 3.8 grams of white powder
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Speaker 1: testing positive for cocaine. Cox had been seen, quote, Here's
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Speaker 1: from the report. Trying to cover her buttocks area with
33:17
Speaker 1: her hand, close quote, before the baggie dropped from her bottom.
33:24
Speaker 1: With the baggie at her feet, she denied ownership of
33:26
Speaker 1: the contraband and declared that someone put it there during sex.
33:31
Speaker 3: Whatever.
33:39
Speaker 1: I just.
33:42
Speaker 1: You know, you try to put yourself in this. She
33:44
Speaker 1: clearly is desperate to come up with a story for
33:46
Speaker 1: how a bag of cocaine fell out of her butt.
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Speaker 1: That's the best you can come up with on short notice.
33:53
Speaker 1: I didn't know it. I just, it's happened during sex. Okay.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Good.
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Speaker 1: By the way, you're being charged. Good luck with that one.
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Speaker 1: And your picture is made it to the smoking gun
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Speaker 1: where Joe Strecker founded resulting in it being a, uh,
34:09
Speaker 1: Back to Stupid Story here on the 55KRC Morning Show.
34:11
Speaker 1: 6 o'clock hour. We have time between now and 6.30
34:15
Speaker 1: when FOP President Ken Coburn joins the program to talk
34:18
Speaker 1: about violence around the University of Cincinnati and Clifton area,
34:20
Speaker 1: what's being done about it. Sounds to me like just
34:22
Speaker 1: a lot of extra overtime and increased police presence, which
34:26
Speaker 1: is a good idea if you want to lower crime.
34:28
Speaker 1: And we will see if they defund the police. Members
34:30
Speaker 1: of council get the memo immediately. We'll get to Ken
34:33
Speaker 1: at 6.30. Feel free to call me between now and
34:35
Speaker 1: then because I would love to hear from folks wondering
34:36
Speaker 1: what you would like to talk about. I'll be right back.
34:39
Speaker 3: News.
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Speaker 6: And what happens next?
34:41
Speaker 4: It's your tent.
34:42
Speaker 3: Tent.
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Speaker 2: A big tent.
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35:19
Speaker 1: Bottom of this hour, we'll have Ken on the program
35:22
Speaker 1: to talk about violence around the University of Cincinnati, which
35:24
Speaker 1: is a real problem. And the arrest of that guy
35:26
Speaker 1: that was organizing these outrageous, run-amuck, out-of-control parties. Thank God
35:33
Speaker 1: he was carrying a firearm and had a firearms disability.
35:37
Speaker 1: So you've got a real good charge that can stick.
35:39
Speaker 1: Big picture with Jack Avin. And coming up at 7.05,
35:41
Speaker 1: we'll talk about V-Vake's ancestry. I'm going to let it
35:48
Speaker 1: sit there. Donovan O'Neill, Americans for Prosperity in Action here
35:50
Speaker 1: in Ohio. Gas relief proposal. Both parties in the gubernatorial race,
35:54
Speaker 1: Acton and Ramaswamy, talking about getting rid of the gas
35:57
Speaker 1: tax here in Ohio. I think Indiana did it. So
35:59
Speaker 1: if you want a cheaper price of gas per gallon,
36:02
Speaker 1: just head across the border to Indiana. And good morning
36:04
Speaker 1: to my friends in Indiana. Houston versus Brown. We'll also
36:07
Speaker 1: talk about that. And I'm still reeling over the fact
36:09
Speaker 1: that Sherrod Brown is so far ahead of most of
36:11
Speaker 1: the polls. And again, I know, I know. Polls, polls, polls.
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Speaker 1: Judge Anna Napolitano and Laura Wright. Both in the 8
36:18
Speaker 1: o'clock hour, Judge Anna Napolitano at 830 and Laura Wright,
36:21
Speaker 1: who is a huge advocate for rescuing dogs, notably Dobermans.
36:25
Speaker 1: We got one of our Doberman rescues from Laura many,
36:27
Speaker 1: many years ago. That was Archer. She's doing a bulldog rescue.
36:32
Speaker 1: She is going to promote it. It's the badass bulldog
36:34
Speaker 1: fifth anniversary for the bulldog rescue. There's a rescue for
36:38
Speaker 1: every breed out there. So rescue a dog. Don't go
36:42
Speaker 1: out to a puppy mill and buy one. And I
36:44
Speaker 1: was thinking of Jay this morning, Jay, who's all about fraud.
36:46
Speaker 1: And yes, more work is being done, Jay. It takes time.
36:49
Speaker 1: But lo and behold, if you put some effort toward it,
36:51
Speaker 1: and a little bit of effort is all it takes,
36:53
Speaker 1: it's like an effort to close the border. If you
36:55
Speaker 1: care about shutting the border down and preventing illegal immigrants
36:58
Speaker 1: from just inundating our country and swarming over the border,
37:02
Speaker 1: then you enforce the law like a light switch going on.
37:06
Speaker 1: Are you eligible to be on Obamacare? There are criteria,
37:11
Speaker 1: and if you check them, When someone signs up and
37:14
Speaker 1: you find out they don't meet the criteria, they're not
37:17
Speaker 1: supposed to go on Obamacare. But you know what they
37:19
Speaker 1: were doing during the Biden administration? They weren't checking eligibility requirements.
37:24
Speaker 1: And so you've got countless people getting taxpayer dollar support
37:28
Speaker 1: for Obamacare. Many of these people don't even exist.
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Speaker 3: J.D.
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Speaker 1: Vance just announced this yesterday. The White House Fraud Task Force,
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Speaker 1: which is working, I'll bet they're doing a whole lot
37:38
Speaker 1: of work behind the scenes right now in any given
37:40
Speaker 1: department because any given department where money is being spent
37:44
Speaker 1: and used and people apply for it like loans or
37:47
Speaker 1: grants or means-tested programs, you've got to meet eligibility requirements.
37:53
Speaker 1: They're looking into it. They removed 750,000 what they described
37:59
Speaker 1: are fraudulent Obamacare recipients. This was the announcement yesterday. Saving
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Speaker 1: the U.S. taxpayer, that's you, $ 2.
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Speaker 6: 2 billion.
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Speaker 1: They're also using the verification standards to look into another
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Speaker 1: 419,000 people, which I believe they suspect are not eligible either.
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Speaker 1: Vance said, we're going to make sure that they are,
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Speaker 1: first of all, legal residents in the United States. And
38:22
Speaker 1: of course, you've got to be a legal resident to
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Speaker 1: get this particular program. Second of all, we're going to
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Speaker 1: make sure that they actually meet the income threshold requirements
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Speaker 1: in order to receive the Obamacare benefits. Whoa, what a
38:31
Speaker 1: brilliant idea.
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Speaker 3: Huh.
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Speaker 1: Actually look into what the law requires before handing out
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Speaker 1: the benefit. Brilliant concept, that. He said, to put that
38:43
Speaker 1: into context, the amount of money that we're stopping from
38:46
Speaker 1: going to fraudsters today, $ 2. 2 billion, the average American child
38:51
Speaker 1: receives about $ 4, 000 in health care benefits every single year.
38:54
Speaker 1: So there's your stat. That means, if you do the division,
38:58
Speaker 1: we are saving 550,000 American children's worth of health care.
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Speaker 1: that would otherwise go to fraudsters. So it's all about
39:10
Speaker 1: the children. See, Vance flipped the narrative on the Democrats because,
39:13
Speaker 1: you know, the Democrats are quick to pull out some poor,
39:15
Speaker 1: pathetic child out in the world and use that as
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Speaker 1: a poster child for the biggest problems that exist. We
39:19
Speaker 1: need a government program. It's all about the children. Well, look,
39:22
Speaker 1: the Trump administration just saved the American taxpayers working hard
39:29
Speaker 1: every day, so they can have their money taken out
39:31
Speaker 1: of their paycheck. $ 2. 2 billion. Is anybody against that? Vance
39:39
Speaker 1: criticized the Biden administration for incentivizing Obamacare fraud. And this
39:44
Speaker 1: has gone on for so long. arguing the incentives for
39:48
Speaker 1: brokers to enroll people in the program combined with the
39:51
Speaker 1: relaxed eligibility requirements became the perfect recipe for fraud. Quote,
39:56
Speaker 1: in one case, we found that a fraud ring had
39:58
Speaker 1: had 40 agents, 40 brokerage agents who had funneled 50,000
40:03
Speaker 1: people into the Obamacare system fraudulently. Now, each of those
40:07
Speaker 1: agents gets a fee for signing up someone on Obamacare.
40:10
Speaker 1: They're supposed to go over the eligibility criteria, check documents,
40:14
Speaker 1: verify income, verify Social Security. Well, these folks found it
40:17
Speaker 1: really easy to just bring random people in, folks that
40:20
Speaker 1: were not eligible, including homeless people and people that were
40:24
Speaker 1: just whole cloth made up. So most of these people
40:27
Speaker 1: were not eligible because they either didn't meet the citizenship
40:30
Speaker 1: criteria or income requirements. Many, quite literally, didn't even exist.
40:38
Speaker 3: J.D.
40:38
Speaker 1: Vance pointed out. Pivoting over, Dr. Memon Oz, also a
40:41
Speaker 1: member of the Vance Fraud Task Force. He said, normally 1%,
40:45
Speaker 1: a single digit. 1% of people who get Obamacare exchange
40:50
Speaker 1: plans do not have a social security number. We're supposed
40:53
Speaker 1: to check their tax returns to make sure they're making
40:56
Speaker 1: between one and four times the poverty level. So they're
40:59
Speaker 1: eligible for all of our taxpayers to pay their insurance
41:03
Speaker 1: so they get the discount. Now, if 100% of people
41:06
Speaker 1: coming onto the program don't have social security numbers, I
41:08
Speaker 1: think we'd all agree that there's a problem. That would
41:12
Speaker 1: be a massive statistical outlier. Did the Obama administration or
41:16
Speaker 1: the Biden administration rather give a crap about verifying that?
41:19
Speaker 2: No.
41:20
Speaker 1: More people on Obama. Look how many people enrolled in Obamacare.
41:24
Speaker 1: It's wildly successful. Well, you just put on 750,000 people
41:28
Speaker 1: who didn't qualify for it in the first place. But
41:33
Speaker 1: I guess if you extrapolate, anyhow. Oz then pointed out
41:36
Speaker 1: over 1.1 people who enrolled in Obamacare this year have
41:39
Speaker 1: no Social Security numbers. Also showing that 35% of enrollees
41:45
Speaker 1: Not once used the program. Red flag. Why would someone
41:52
Speaker 1: be enrolled and never use Obamacare? Well, that's because they're healthy, Thomas.
41:56
Speaker 1: They didn't have to go to the doctor. No, that's
41:57
Speaker 1: because the people didn't exist. Going back to the brokers
42:01
Speaker 1: who get commissions, all they need to do is have
42:03
Speaker 1: a name on a piece of paper and they'll get
42:05
Speaker 1: their commission. Anyway, Mendenhall said, you know, they haven't brought
42:08
Speaker 1: a prescription medication. They haven't seen a doctor. That's just
42:11
Speaker 1: not possible. That's at least twice as much as your
42:15
Speaker 1: normal incidence of people having insurance not using it. So
42:18
Speaker 1: we know there is fraud. And he even cited one
42:22
Speaker 1: specific illustration of how this works. Corey Lloyd, who along
42:27
Speaker 1: with his partner, some guy named Stephen Strong, well, preyed
42:32
Speaker 1: on vulnerable customers or consumers rather to enroll them in Obamacare, well,
42:36
Speaker 1: to get their commission payments, which apparently come from the
42:39
Speaker 1: insurance companies. This was an announcement from February.
42:42
Speaker 7: U.S.
42:43
Speaker 1: Department of Justice pointed out that they were going after
42:45
Speaker 1: these guys or at least prosecuted them or convicted them even.
42:48
Speaker 1: Said the crooks bribed homeless and jobless people into enrolling
42:51
Speaker 1: in the Affordable Care Act plans. They had no idea
42:52
Speaker 1: what they were even doing. Then he pointed out a
42:56
Speaker 1: text message between Lloyd and Strong which showed how this
42:59
Speaker 1: process unfolded. He said, I can't even really read the
43:01
Speaker 1: exact words because apparently there was some curse words in there.
43:04
Speaker 1: He said, but Lloyd said, it's a killer idea to
43:07
Speaker 1: sign up these poor individuals. Make them victims. If I
43:10
Speaker 1: could pull it off, I want to rape the shelters.
43:13
Speaker 1: That's what he said, meaning the homeless shelters where there
43:16
Speaker 1: are homeless people who he would sign up for Obamacare
43:19
Speaker 1: and get his commissions, even though the homeless didn't know
43:21
Speaker 1: what they were doing. Isn't that great? Look how easy
43:23
Speaker 1: it is. Government programs set up, almost designed to encourage fraud.
43:28
Speaker 1: It didn't take some brilliant artificial intelligence-solved problem to come
43:33
Speaker 1: up with the idea that, man, we just need a
43:34
Speaker 1: person's name on a piece of paper and we get paid?
43:37
Speaker 3: Huh.
43:41
Speaker 1: Those pair, the partner and the strong and Lloyd folks,
43:44
Speaker 1: both convicted of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, wire fraud
43:48
Speaker 1: and conspiracy to defraud the United States. Both sentenced to
43:51
Speaker 1: a total of 20 years in prison in order to
43:53
Speaker 1: pay $ 180. 6 million in restitution. So there's the figure. Two
43:58
Speaker 1: dudes ripping you and I off via the Obamacare program,
44:05
Speaker 1: facilitated by overseers who do not care and did not
44:09
Speaker 1: care about verifying eligibility. We're incentivized to not care about
44:14
Speaker 1: eligibility requirements, and we all suffer for it. $ 180. 6 million
44:23
Speaker 1: in restitution, that's what two dudes were able to do
44:25
Speaker 1: to you and me. That was a reimbursement, apparently. Somebody
44:33
Speaker 1: is at least doing something about it. And if you
44:37
Speaker 1: think about the speed at which they did identify 750,000
44:42
Speaker 1: of these folks, maybe another 400,000 or more. Now, Trump
44:48
Speaker 1: hadn't been in office a full two years. These investigations
44:50
Speaker 1: take a long time. But once the initiative is there,
44:53
Speaker 1: once the desire to accomplish something is there, once the
44:58
Speaker 1: insult to taxpayers of all political stripes is revealed... Couple
45:04
Speaker 1: that with a $ 40 trillion hole in the ground that
45:06
Speaker 1: we've dug ourselves by overspending. Finally, somebody's doing something for us.
45:13
Speaker 1: A bipartisan effort to crack down on fraud, waste, and abuse. Now,
45:18
Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes somewhere, maybe like people who
45:21
Speaker 1: had an incentive to sign up a bunch of people
45:22
Speaker 1: who weren't eligible. Maybe people who don't believe in borders
45:25
Speaker 1: and think that the entire world basically is entitled to U.S.
45:28
Speaker 1: government largesse. Maybe those are the folks that are angry
45:31
Speaker 1: about it. Maybe those are the folks that benefit from it,
45:35
Speaker 1: I guess. But if you looked at this whole problem objectively, fraud,
45:40
Speaker 1: we are being ripped off. Something we can all embrace.
45:46
Speaker 1: So I'm moving away from cancer is the only thing
45:48
Speaker 1: that we can unify. Well, maybe not because of the
45:50
Speaker 1: point I just made. There's something truly nefarious going on
45:53
Speaker 1: behind the scenes with elected officials and government programs that
45:58
Speaker 1: are designed to facilitate fraud and expand and grow fraud. Notwithstanding,
46:03
Speaker 1: that expansion and growth has no connection with benefits going
46:07
Speaker 1: to the people the program was designed to help. Like
46:11
Speaker 1: all those children whose health care basically was stolen. 617-55-CARE-CD-TALK-STATION.
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Speaker 3: Zimmer, eating in there.
46:18
Speaker 1: 617-55-CARE-CD-TALK-STATION. It's 622-55-CARE-CD-TALK-STATION. FOP President Ken Coburn coming up next.
46:26
Speaker 1: A lot of violence around the University of Cincinnati. I'm
46:30
Speaker 1: willing to go out on a limb and bet that
46:32
Speaker 1: it's not University of Cincinnati students that are committing the
46:34
Speaker 1: acts of violence. Anyway, further fraud relief or further investigations
46:38
Speaker 1: into fraud yielding some great results.
46:41
Speaker 5: 170.
46:42
Speaker 1: Count them. Trump administration stopped more than $ 5. 8 billion in
46:48
Speaker 1: snap fraud since he took office. Another victory for the
46:52
Speaker 1: American taxpayer. The latest results, New York City, they swept out.
46:56
Speaker 1: hundreds of undercover investigators went out and engaged in law
47:01
Speaker 1: enforcement activities. So, for example, you know, like cops sending
47:05
Speaker 1: in an underage kid into a store to buy beer
47:07
Speaker 1: or wine or alcoholic beverages to see if they sell
47:10
Speaker 1: it to an underage person. Same thing goes with SNAP benefits.
47:13
Speaker 1: They went in, they bought items that were not eligible
47:16
Speaker 1: under SNAP cards. They also breached the law by exchanging
47:21
Speaker 1: benefits for cash. Pretty rampant. She said the U.S. Department
47:28
Speaker 1: of Agriculture in a statement, this is just the latest
47:33
Speaker 1: action the Trump administration's fight against fraud. The message is clear.
47:35
Speaker 1: If you accept any portion of the annual $ 100 billion
47:41
Speaker 1: taxpayer program, you must follow the rules or face the consequences.
47:44
Speaker 1: A statement from Brooke Rollins, the Agriculture Secretary. We owe
47:47
Speaker 1: it to every American taxpayer to safeguard their hard-earned dollars.
47:51
Speaker 1: And these latest enforcement actions are just a small part
47:53
Speaker 1: of the Food and Nutrition Administration's effort to remove criminals
47:55
Speaker 1: and bad actors from food stamps. Retailers accused of allowing
48:00
Speaker 1: benefits to be used for alcohol, non-eligible food items, cash.
48:04
Speaker 1: Now penalties range from a suspension of the operation's use
48:08
Speaker 1: or ability to even use or take snap cards and
48:11
Speaker 1: also permanent disqualification. USDA said the New York sweep is
48:18
Speaker 1: part of a much larger fraud crackdown The department says
48:22
Speaker 1: it has already disqualified or suspended nearly 6,000 retailers and
48:26
Speaker 1: disabled or blocked more than 2,000 illegal point-of-sale devices. Previously,
48:32
Speaker 1: USD announced enforcement proceedings against 19 Snap retailers in Cleveland, Cincinnati,
48:37
Speaker 1: and Columbus after a joint operation with the Ohio investigators. Congratulations,
48:41
Speaker 1: Ohio investigators. Look, we're cracking down on Ohio as well.
48:44
Speaker 1: Crack down everywhere. Let's move over to other programs. Listen,
48:47
Speaker 1: if it's alive and well in Social Security, Obamacare, Snap,
48:52
Speaker 1: Go on. Keep adding up all of the areas. Leering centers.
48:58
Speaker 1: I mean, your mind can just imagine. I mean, if
49:05
Speaker 1: we could snap our finger and get rid of literally
49:07
Speaker 1: every single human being, fake or real, that is getting
49:11
Speaker 1: benefits they're not entitled to under every single one of
49:14
Speaker 1: the federal programs and pivot away over from means-tested benefits.
49:19
Speaker 1: Let's try... to audit the Pentagon. Yeah, they've tried that
49:24
Speaker 1: eight times. They can't do it. Do you get the
49:27
Speaker 1: feeling we have an oversight problem? Do you get the
49:30
Speaker 1: feeling that maybe the federal government has gotten too big
49:32
Speaker 1: for its britches, that too much is going on and
49:34
Speaker 1: too much money is being taken from us and just
49:36
Speaker 1: literally thrown out unaccountable into the world yeah you do
49:42
Speaker 1: don't you and if you don't you're not paying attention
49:44
Speaker 1: 625 55 care cd talk station fop president ken coburn
49:49
Speaker 1: next it's 6 30 f55 care cd talk station happy
49:55
Speaker 1: wednesday And there he is. Glad to welcome back to
49:59
Speaker 1: the 55 KRC Morning Show. And God bless the Cincinnati
50:01
Speaker 1: Police Department. God bless all members of law enforcement. I
50:03
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I know my listeners do. And we're not
50:05
Speaker 1: interested in defunding police. We're interested in getting more police
50:08
Speaker 1: in areas that deserve and need more police because there's
50:11
Speaker 1: more violence in some places than others. Joining the program,
50:13
Speaker 1: the return of FOP President Ken Cobra, representing the Union
50:16
Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Police Department. Good to have you back on, Ken.
50:19
Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to have you on the show.
50:21
Speaker 8: Hey, good morning, Brian. Thanks for having me.
50:23
Speaker 1: Real quick question. One of my dear friends, call him
50:26
Speaker 1: Cribbage Mike, he was curious to know, it's Interim Police
50:29
Speaker 1: Chief Henney. Is there currently a search on? Is Interim
50:33
Speaker 1: Police Chief Henney going to become the formal police chief?
50:36
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea where they are in that?
50:37
Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on the spot if
50:38
Speaker 1: you don't know, but there hasn't been much reporting on
50:41
Speaker 1: the current status of finding a permanent police chief.
50:45
Speaker 8: No, there's been no search. There's been no even talks
50:48
Speaker 8: of anything. That's the interesting part. I mean, we're going
50:51
Speaker 8: into almost a year.
50:53
Speaker 1: Now and nothing. Wow. Okay. So it isn't for want
50:59
Speaker 1: of reporting. It's for want of activity by, I guess,
51:02
Speaker 1: city manager, Cheryl Long. It's her responsibility, isn't it?
51:05
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely. And there, there's been, there's been no talks
51:08
Speaker 8: that I'm aware of. Like I said, there's not even any,
51:11
Speaker 8: any rumors going around the police department of, you know, what,
51:14
Speaker 8: what's this look like in the future? Just nothing. Huh?
51:18
Speaker 3: Wow.
51:18
Speaker 1: Well, if you find out anything, please let me know.
51:20
Speaker 1: We'll let everybody else know about that.
51:22
Speaker 3: Wow.
51:22
Speaker 1: That's strange. Anyhow, uh, does real quick, does that, does
51:25
Speaker 1: that saw, does this interim component for the, for, for
51:29
Speaker 1: handy status, does that create a problem among the rank
51:32
Speaker 1: and file, the, the sort of interim nature of it,
51:35
Speaker 1: or is it just sort of business as usual as
51:38
Speaker 1: spite of the fact that business isn't really good right now,
51:40
Speaker 1: given the number of officers we're down, but seriously, does
51:42
Speaker 1: it create a problem with, with internal structure?
51:45
Speaker 8: Well, sure it does because there's only so many decisions
51:48
Speaker 8: an interim chief can make. Um, And until they know
51:52
Speaker 8: that there's some stability, you know, the rank and file,
51:55
Speaker 8: we're wondering every day what's going on. You know, why
51:59
Speaker 8: has it now been almost a year that we have
52:00
Speaker 8: an interim chief, you know, and there's been absolutely no
52:04
Speaker 8: communication whatsoever about what any kind of process would look like,
52:07
Speaker 8: what any kind of final decision. So it leaves the
52:09
Speaker 8: rank and file wondering day to day who's going to
52:12
Speaker 8: be in charge of this police department.
52:13
Speaker 1: Understood. Are promotions delayed as well?
52:17
Speaker 8: No, no, because actually everything from sergeant, lieutenant, captain, all
52:22
Speaker 8: those positions are all part of our bargaining unit, so
52:25
Speaker 8: they have to follow the contract when it comes to promotions.
52:28
Speaker 3: Okay. All right.
52:29
Speaker 1: Well, I hope for a prompt resolution to that, although
52:32
Speaker 1: I guess the prompt ship has sailed, given that we're
52:34
Speaker 1: coming up on a year. Violence in and around downtown Cincinnati.
52:38
Speaker 1: It was first reported there was a stabbing on the streetcar,
52:40
Speaker 1: but apparently there was a stabbing near the streetcar route,
52:42
Speaker 1: but one more violent act in downtown Cincinnati. And, of course,
52:46
Speaker 1: the violence around the University of Cincinnati is really troubling
52:49
Speaker 1: to me. I went there for seven years, seven years
52:53
Speaker 1: of college down the drain. But it never struck me
52:57
Speaker 1: as a violent area. And if you're trying to get
52:59
Speaker 1: kids to go to the University of Cincinnati and day
53:01
Speaker 1: after day after day there's some sort of violent outbreak
53:04
Speaker 1: or someone gets harmed, that's got to hurt the reputation
53:07
Speaker 1: of the University of Cincinnati but also the reputation of
53:09
Speaker 1: the city generally speaking. Looks like interim police chief Henney
53:13
Speaker 1: and UC police chief Elliot Isaac were talking about this
53:17
Speaker 1: yesterday and their efforts to expand police presence. And I
53:22
Speaker 1: saw and I thought this was a rather interesting statement
53:24
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about, Ken Kober. Isaac pointed
53:27
Speaker 1: out that the University of Cincinnati police have doubled their
53:29
Speaker 1: deployment in the area around the university and that spends
53:32
Speaker 1: a million dollars a year to hire off-duty Cincinnati police
53:36
Speaker 1: for additional support. I thought you guys were overworked just
53:40
Speaker 1: filling in details for overtime to patrol the city of Cincinnati.
53:44
Speaker 1: What's the story on this borrowing of the city police
53:47
Speaker 1: officers for the university, Ken?
53:48
Speaker 8: Well, we've had a relationship for years with the University
53:52
Speaker 8: of Cincinnati Police. They do some fantastic work. They've always
53:55
Speaker 8: partnered with us. But this detail has been going on
53:58
Speaker 8: for several years where they go in and they will
54:03
Speaker 8: have extra patrols, like I said, in the UC campus
54:06
Speaker 8: area as well as Coryville. Um, you know, and it's
54:09
Speaker 8: just this, you see this spike in crime, of course,
54:12
Speaker 8: you know, when kids come back to school, um, you know,
54:15
Speaker 8: because college kids are just sometimes naive and they decide, well,
54:18
Speaker 8: I'll just leave my front door open or whatever. And
54:20
Speaker 8: before you know, people are breaking into houses. Unfortunately, it
54:24
Speaker 8: happens every year. Um, kids getting robbed, they're just walking around,
54:28
Speaker 8: not paying attention to their surroundings. Um, and it does
54:31
Speaker 8: seem to level off once school gets started and then
54:33
Speaker 8: kids realize, oh, wait, you know, even though this campus
54:36
Speaker 8: typically is safe, there's a lot of bad areas around there.
54:40
Speaker 8: And of course, what does it do? It makes these
54:42
Speaker 8: kids easy targets. So they're starting to figure it.
54:45
Speaker 3: Out, it seems.
54:46
Speaker 1: Well, I'm guessing that when you refer to the students
54:49
Speaker 1: versus the perpetrators, the perpetrators are not students.
54:53
Speaker 8: No, absolutely not. I mean, you look at all of
54:55
Speaker 8: the suspects in all these crimes. They're people that come
54:58
Speaker 8: in and they just want to prey on these college kids.
55:02
Speaker 8: I applaud the police department you see for saying, listen,
55:05
Speaker 8: we're going to try to find out where we can
55:07
Speaker 8: get more bodies from to flood this area because it
55:10
Speaker 8: proves the old point that if you have more police
55:13
Speaker 8: in an area, crime is naturally going to go down.
55:16
Speaker 1: Well, and of course, social media has compounded the problem
55:18
Speaker 1: of these violent actions. We're going to bring Ken back
55:20
Speaker 1: and talk a little bit more about that, given the
55:22
Speaker 1: recent arrest of one of the guys primarily responsible for
55:25
Speaker 1: these sort of flash mobs that get out of control.
55:29
Speaker 3: 636.
55:29
Speaker 9: Station.
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Speaker 1: 641-55-KRC-D Talk Station. Brian Thomas speaking with FOP President Ken Colbert.
55:37
Speaker 1: Violence around campus, he identified maybe one of the primary
55:40
Speaker 1: reasons kids coming back from school and creating crimes of
55:43
Speaker 1: opportunity by not paying attention to where they are, walking
55:45
Speaker 1: around oblivious to what's around them, carrying cell phones around. Ken,
55:49
Speaker 1: I've also understood that students just sitting outside on their
55:52
Speaker 1: front porches in student housing, Or also getting attacked by
55:56
Speaker 1: random people walking by. I find that really a difficult
55:59
Speaker 1: thing because you're entering onto someone's private property and doing that.
56:05
Speaker 1: That suggests to me you're maybe setting yourself up for
56:07
Speaker 1: a potentially deadly interaction. Is that a common phenomenon, Ken?
56:12
Speaker 8: Yeah, unfortunately it is. You see these kids that are
56:15
Speaker 8: out running around. They're all drinking. But it's no excuse
56:19
Speaker 8: for somebody to be walking around lurking for.
56:23
Speaker 8: Young, unsuspecting college kids. It's something that unfortunately we see
56:27
Speaker 8: it and there's a spike at the beginning of the
56:29
Speaker 8: school year and then it does seem.
56:30
Speaker 3: To level off.
56:31
Speaker 8: Now, part of that might be the weather, but it's
56:34
Speaker 8: something that it seems to go on every year.
56:36
Speaker 1: Well, and I know UC is not unique in having
56:38
Speaker 1: crime problems. I even point out to my daughter when
56:40
Speaker 1: she went to Ohio State University, got robbed at gunpoint twice, twice.
56:45
Speaker 1: One girl. So you can imagine how rampant that problem is. Anyway,
56:48
Speaker 1: but the problem, all of this, the criminal, the crime
56:50
Speaker 1: problem is exacerbated, whether it's around UC campus or anyplace else.
56:54
Speaker 1: When you've got people going into social media and doing
56:56
Speaker 1: these flash mob events, whether it's street takeovers or things
56:59
Speaker 1: like this 25-year-old Ronquez Benton that you guys arrested because
57:03
Speaker 1: he was one of the ones responsible for promoting these
57:05
Speaker 1: events online. I mean, doesn't this represent a challenge to
57:10
Speaker 1: law enforcement? Because here I am, Brian Thomas, I have
57:13
Speaker 1: a free speech rights. Now, while I stay off social
57:16
Speaker 1: media for the most part, I could go on one
57:18
Speaker 1: of the social media outlets and tell people that, hey,
57:20
Speaker 1: we're all meeting at X place. I'm allowed to do that.
57:23
Speaker 1: We are allowed to freely assemble or we have a
57:26
Speaker 1: constitutional right to that. But where does it cross the
57:29
Speaker 1: legal line? How do you arrest someone for organizing these
57:33
Speaker 1: flash mobs that ultimately turn violent, which maybe aren't advertised
57:38
Speaker 1: as an opportunity to commit violence?
57:39
Speaker 3: Kent?
57:41
Speaker 8: Well, in this case, this ringleader, clearly not a University
57:45
Speaker 8: of Cincinnati student, and was holding these parties on their property.
57:51
Speaker 8: And if you're not a student, you can't be on
57:52
Speaker 8: their property. So there you have at least at the
57:56
Speaker 8: very minimum a trespassing charge. The police discovered that this
58:00
Speaker 8: is the guy that's doing this, go to him and go, listen,
58:02
Speaker 8: knock this off, because otherwise you're going to bring problems
58:05
Speaker 8: to yourself. So what does he do? He doubles down
58:08
Speaker 8: and let's bring a stolen gun to this party. And
58:11
Speaker 8: by the way, he's already a felon, is my understanding,
58:14
Speaker 8: if he's being charged with weapons under disability.
58:17
Speaker 1: They said he was convicted of gross sexual imposition back
58:21
Speaker 1: in 2024, rendering him not allowed to carry concealed or
58:24
Speaker 1: carry weapons.
58:26
Speaker 5: Right.
58:26
Speaker 8: So, you know, they arrest this guy, do phenomenal police
58:30
Speaker 8: work to get this done, arrest this guy, get him
58:32
Speaker 8: off the streets. Only for, and this is going to
58:34
Speaker 8: surprise you, I got a $ 5, 000 bond at 10%. on
58:38
Speaker 8: these charges, and he's out now walking the streets free.
58:43
Speaker 1: Welcome to Hamilton County judicial system. We got elections coming
58:48
Speaker 1: up here, Ken. That's an emphasis we need to put
58:50
Speaker 1: on people. Please choose good judges who are tough on crime.
58:54
Speaker 1: You're going to end up exacerbating the problem, so this
58:56
Speaker 1: guy's going to continue doing it. What do you need?
58:58
Speaker 1: Let's boil it down, Ken. Obviously, you've identified some of
59:00
Speaker 1: the problems. We clearly have a crime problem in downtown.
59:02
Speaker 1: If you had your wish list fulfilled, let me just
59:05
Speaker 1: check off number one on the list, a full contingent
59:07
Speaker 1: of police officers. Beyond that, what is the police department missing?
59:12
Speaker 1: What needs to be changed from maybe the mayor's office
59:15
Speaker 1: or the city manager's office? Can you boil it down
59:18
Speaker 1: to simple terms for my listeners and I to understand, Ken?
59:22
Speaker 8: Well, what you need is the other part of the
59:24
Speaker 8: justice system to do its job. you know, the police
59:27
Speaker 8: do fantastic work. They arrest these people only for them
59:29
Speaker 8: to be let out. They're spinning their wheels. If we
59:32
Speaker 8: actually have judges that are willing to hold people accountable
59:35
Speaker 8: for their actions, then maybe we could get to a
59:38
Speaker 8: point in society where these things aren't happening to begin
59:41
Speaker 8: with because the consequence for doing it is greater than
59:44
Speaker 8: the consequence for, you know, not doing it. So maybe
59:48
Speaker 8: they'll figure this out, but until any of that happens,
59:51
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter who the mayor, the city manager, they're
59:54
Speaker 8: not going to do anything. You know, you watch a
59:56
Speaker 8: law and public safety meeting yesterday where they announced this
59:59
Speaker 8: great police work, all these things being done. The piece
1:00:01
Speaker 8: that they left out is, oh, by the way, this
1:00:03
Speaker 8: guy we just arrested, the courts just let him right
1:00:06
Speaker 8: back out. But they're never going to say that. I
1:00:08
Speaker 8: don't know why. But until things like that change, we're
1:00:13
Speaker 8: going to continue to see all of these headlines that
1:00:15
Speaker 8: we see every day.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And the solution is in our hands. It's right here.
1:00:22
Speaker 1: Show up and vote, and vote for judges who actually
1:00:25
Speaker 1: are tough on crime. It sounds so simple, and it's
1:00:28
Speaker 1: odd to me, Ken, that that isn't the default mindset
1:00:31
Speaker 1: of the voter. I wish voters paid closer attention to
1:00:34
Speaker 1: who their judges are and who they're voting for, because
1:00:36
Speaker 1: if you're voting straight blue ticket, you're going to get
1:00:38
Speaker 1: more of the same, and that's sad. One party is
1:00:41
Speaker 1: behind woke justice. Republicans aren't advocating for it, and I'm
1:00:45
Speaker 1: sure there are some Democrat judges who might run as
1:00:47
Speaker 1: a Democrat who want to be tough on crime. The
1:00:49
Speaker 1: problem is they probably wouldn't get the endorsement of the
1:00:51
Speaker 1: Democrat party. It's a sad situation, Ken Kober. That's my
1:00:55
Speaker 1: observation anyway, but we can change the dynamic and give
1:00:58
Speaker 1: Ken his wish, get better judges on the bench. Ken,
1:01:01
Speaker 1: anything else you have to offer this morning to my
1:01:03
Speaker 1: listeners before we part company?
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Speaker 8: No, I will say, if you look at the campus
1:01:07
Speaker 8: over the last week or so, there has been a
1:01:11
Speaker 8: serious reduction in crime there. So that is at least
1:01:14
Speaker 8: something that can leave you on a positive note with.
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Speaker 1: I am happy to hear that. And Across this great land,
1:01:20
Speaker 1: we're in crime. At least murders are at a historic low.
1:01:23
Speaker 1: So we seem to be going in the right direction,
1:01:26
Speaker 1: at least generally as a society, with the reduction in crime.
1:01:28
Speaker 1: So let's hope we continue on that trend. And, Ken,
1:01:31
Speaker 1: if we get our wish along those lines, then you
1:01:33
Speaker 1: won't need the additional 200-plus officers that you're down, right?
1:01:38
Speaker 8: It's wishful thinking, that is for sure.
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Speaker 1: I know, but we can all dream. Ken, God bless
1:01:43
Speaker 1: you and every member of the Cincinnati Police Department and
1:01:45
Speaker 1: all members of law enforcement. We'll include everyone out there.
1:01:47
Speaker 1: Keep up the great work, Ken. I'll look forward to
1:01:48
Speaker 1: having you back on the show, hopefully with some really
1:01:50
Speaker 1: great news to talk about.
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Speaker 8: Sounds good.
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Speaker 3: Thanks, Brian.
1:01:53
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Stay safe, man. It's 648 at 55 Cares.
1:01:59
Speaker 1: It's 706, and it's Wednesday. I always get excited for
1:02:03
Speaker 1: this moment in time during the 55 Cares for Your
1:02:05
Speaker 1: Morning Show week because it's time to get brilliance of
1:02:07
Speaker 1: Jack Atherton we call it the big picture with Jack
1:02:10
Speaker 1: Atherton Jack welcome back to the morning show my friend
1:02:12
Speaker 1: love having.
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Speaker 4: You on good morning birthday boy thank.
1:02:15
Speaker 1: You good one I had a great one yeah early
1:02:19
Speaker 1: birthday celebration on Sunday my birthday was Monday great family
1:02:22
Speaker 1: dinner we all chipped in and helped out including me
1:02:25
Speaker 1: and prepared a wonderful meal I got the company of
1:02:27
Speaker 1: my mom and my children and my son-in-law which I'm
1:02:30
Speaker 1: proud to say out loud I love having a son-in-law So, yeah,
1:02:33
Speaker 1: it was great. Really enjoyed it. Just a real low-key,
1:02:36
Speaker 1: just relaxing weekend. And I appreciate my wife's efforts all
1:02:40
Speaker 1: throughout the weekend as well. We enjoyed it.
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Speaker 4: As we get older, we just keep celebrating. But let's
1:02:46
Speaker 4: talk about a much younger and more energetic man, Vivek Ramaswamy.
1:02:53
Speaker 4: Unless we're all complete idiots, in about six weeks, Ramaswamy
1:02:58
Speaker 4: is going to be elected governor of the great state
1:03:00
Speaker 4: of Ohio. He wants to slash our confiscatory property taxes
1:03:05
Speaker 4: and phase out the state income tax. And if Vivek
1:03:09
Speaker 4: and our too often useless GOP lawmakers actually follow through,
1:03:13
Speaker 4: Ohio will be as big a magnet for industry and
1:03:17
Speaker 4: jobs as Florida, Texas, and Tennessee. Vivek also wants to
1:03:23
Speaker 4: expand energy production, both natural gas and alternative energy. That'll
1:03:28
Speaker 4: lower our killer utility bills Volunteering as a public school tutor,
1:03:34
Speaker 4: I also applaud Vivek's focus on education, on students, not
1:03:38
Speaker 4: teacher unions. He wants to raise achievement standards and expand
1:03:42
Speaker 4: school choice, including lots more career and technical schools. I
1:03:47
Speaker 4: could go on about his business background, his marriage and family,
1:03:51
Speaker 4: but Brian, can we celebrate something else Vivek Ramaswamy is
1:03:55
Speaker 4: rightly proud of?
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Speaker 1: Please.
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Speaker 4: Being an Indian-American. The Vague may be a trailblazer in
1:04:02
Speaker 4: local politics, but for a long time now, Indians have
1:04:06
Speaker 4: been many of our most brilliant and productive fellow citizens.
1:04:10
Speaker 4: Five and a half million Indians and counting are now
1:04:13
Speaker 4: the second biggest group of Asian Americans, increasing by 125%
1:04:19
Speaker 4: just since 2000. One reason? Most Indians, including the professional
1:04:25
Speaker 4: women I know, love devoting themselves to children. Not Hillary
1:04:29
Speaker 4: Clinton's village full of children, young and old. Their own kids.
1:04:36
Speaker 4: When you and I grew up, Ryan, East Indians were
1:04:39
Speaker 4: often the butt of jokes. They were untouchables in old
1:04:43
Speaker 4: Hollywood movies like Gunga Din, which glorified British colonialism that
1:04:48
Speaker 4: was often bigoted and cruel. On the other hand, a
1:04:52
Speaker 4: very affecting film, I have to admit, by Mayor Zoran
1:04:56
Speaker 4: Mamdani's mom, Mira Nair, called the namesake, showed how tough
1:05:01
Speaker 4: it was to assimilate coming to America. Although that does
1:05:05
Speaker 4: not excuse Zoran becoming a communist. The fake Ramaswamy and
1:05:09
Speaker 4: children of other immigrants from around the world face challenges too,
1:05:14
Speaker 4: and still championed America's free market limited government. On a
1:05:19
Speaker 4: lighter note, we think of Indians disco dancing in Bollywood movies.
1:05:24
Speaker 4: If you've never seen one of these, I'd start with
1:05:26
Speaker 4: one set in India, but it's in the English language,
1:05:29
Speaker 4: updating Jane Austen. It's called Bride and Prejudice. You'll love it.
1:05:34
Speaker 4: Since we talk history, Gandhi, from 1982, explores India's fight
1:05:40
Speaker 4: for independence, something we can relate to during this 250th
1:05:43
Speaker 4: anniversary of America's independence. Mahatma Gandhi, later called Mahatma, meaning great-souled,
1:05:52
Speaker 4: was one of the humblest and most peaceful people figures
1:05:55
Speaker 4: in history, a role model for Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
1:05:59
Speaker 4: But let's go way back and consider an Indian who's
1:06:03
Speaker 4: widely considered the noblest ruler the world has ever seen.
1:06:07
Speaker 4: A couple of hundred years before Christ, Ashoka started out
1:06:12
Speaker 4: as a warrior, as bloody as they come, until he
1:06:15
Speaker 4: learned about another Indian prince who renounced wealth and power
1:06:19
Speaker 4: to seek peace, starting with inner peace. Siddhartha Gautama said,
1:06:24
Speaker 4: came to be called the Buddha, the enlightened being. Emperor
1:06:28
Speaker 4: Ashoka embraced Buddhism, but he did not decree that others
1:06:32
Speaker 4: follow him. Ashoka tolerated all religions and practices and spread
1:06:37
Speaker 4: Buddhist teachings, not at the point of a sword, but
1:06:40
Speaker 4: through inscriptions carved on rocks and pillars, many of which
1:06:45
Speaker 4: we can still visit on their ancient sites throughout the
1:06:48
Speaker 4: subcontinent from India to Nepal. Beyond teaching, Ashoka directed his
1:06:54
Speaker 4: officials to relieve suffering wherever they found it, even in
1:06:58
Speaker 4: neighboring lands. That was remarkable for the time and in
1:07:02
Speaker 4: most times. But folks, you know which other country has
1:07:05
Speaker 4: done this? The United States of America. America has a
1:07:10
Speaker 4: record second to none in spreading literacy, medical care, sanitation, industry, defense,
1:07:19
Speaker 4: all the blessings of civilization around the world. We are
1:07:23
Speaker 4: far from perfect. We're not Buddhist monks. We're not always
1:07:27
Speaker 4: very good Christians and Jews. Yet from everything I've seen,
1:07:30
Speaker 4: Vivek Ramaswamy, a Hindu who also promotes Judeo-Christian values, would
1:07:36
Speaker 4: be inspired as governor by the examples of Dr. King,
1:07:40
Speaker 4: Mahatma Gandhi, and Ashoka, along with America's founders. That's a
1:07:46
Speaker 4: lot to live up to, but it sure beats being
1:07:48
Speaker 4: mentored by Karl Marx, which is true not just of
1:07:52
Speaker 4: Zoran Mamdani, but almost all of today's Democrat socialists. And
1:07:57
Speaker 4: what do you say, my enlightened and somewhat older friend?
1:08:03
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I always agree with what you have
1:08:04
Speaker 1: to say. You break it down so wonderfully. I love
1:08:06
Speaker 1: your historical references, as always. But, you know, when you
1:08:09
Speaker 1: mentioned the depiction of Indians in movies, you mentioned Ganga
1:08:13
Speaker 1: Dan and you commented on the caste system. And they
1:08:17
Speaker 1: did abolish the caste system, but, you know, that is
1:08:19
Speaker 1: a lingering problem for them. They still sort of have
1:08:21
Speaker 1: this societal, you know, look down their nose at certain
1:08:25
Speaker 1: people because of the formerly now abolished caste system. When
1:08:28
Speaker 1: you were born into a caste, you couldn't leave it.
1:08:30
Speaker 1: I mean, what an amazing contrast between the freedoms and
1:08:33
Speaker 1: liberties we enjoy here in America. Now, there may be
1:08:35
Speaker 1: inherent biases in people here, you know, holdover of racism, but,
1:08:39
Speaker 1: you know, time and time again, you have misogyny. illustrations
1:08:42
Speaker 1: and demonstrations of people who were formerly subjected to slavery
1:08:46
Speaker 1: here in the United States or maybe were an untouchable
1:08:49
Speaker 1: under the Indian caste system and not capable of moving
1:08:51
Speaker 1: out of that. We moved out of it. Many African
1:08:55
Speaker 1: Americans were able to achieve great success in spite of
1:08:58
Speaker 1: the Jim Crow laws that even existed on the books.
1:09:01
Speaker 1: We don't have those anymore. We have freedom and liberty here.
1:09:04
Speaker 1: We aren't stuck in one place. And the only thing
1:09:07
Speaker 1: stopping us from moving forward and up is maybe our
1:09:10
Speaker 1: own limitations and our own self-motivation. But it isn't a
1:09:13
Speaker 1: governmental societal structure that prevents people from moving forward. Maybe
1:09:17
Speaker 1: that's why we've been such a great magnet for humanity
1:09:20
Speaker 1: in this country, the freedom to enjoy and choose our
1:09:23
Speaker 1: own self-destiny, Jack.
1:09:26
Speaker 4: I'm glad you mentioned that because there was another movie,
1:09:28
Speaker 4: and I think the name of it was Slumlord Millionaire.
1:09:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:09:33
Speaker 4: Where you saw how poor so many people are still
1:09:36
Speaker 4: in India.
1:09:36
Speaker 3: Oh, my, yes.
1:09:37
Speaker 4: They're doing their best. It's almost intractable because the place
1:09:40
Speaker 4: is so populated and the resources are not what they
1:09:44
Speaker 4: should be, and they're moving into the modern age. But
1:09:47
Speaker 4: they tried. Apparently, Modi, their current leader, is very popular still,
1:09:52
Speaker 4: and he's been there for a while. But as for Americans' attitudes,
1:09:57
Speaker 4: at the last listener lunch, I spoke with a fan
1:10:00
Speaker 4: of yours. They were all fans of yours. This fellow
1:10:02
Speaker 4: worried that some voters may shy away from supporting a Hindu.
1:10:08
Speaker 4: You always hope we've moved beyond bigotry and politics. After all,
1:10:12
Speaker 4: in this land of alleged white supremacy, Barack Hussein Obama,
1:10:17
Speaker 4: was elected president twice, and many Republicans who voted for
1:10:22
Speaker 4: a Republican, including myself, they were proud of that, until
1:10:26
Speaker 4: the candidate who proclaimed there would be no red states,
1:10:29
Speaker 4: no blue states, only the United States, showed his true colors.
1:10:34
Speaker 4: He really did want to fundamentally transform America, and he
1:10:38
Speaker 4: went a long way toward doing that. Before Obama, people
1:10:42
Speaker 4: said we couldn't elect a Catholic, Because in 1928, New
1:10:47
Speaker 4: York Governor Al Smith went down in flames. Yet Jack
1:10:50
Speaker 4: Kennedy in 1960 overcame the claims that he would take
1:10:55
Speaker 4: orders from the Pope. Now we hear that Josh Shapiro,
1:10:59
Speaker 4: Rahm Emanuel, and John Ossoff can't win the Democrat nomination
1:11:02
Speaker 4: because they're Jewish and support Israel. I would not vote
1:11:07
Speaker 4: for any of them because they're socialists, but I hope
1:11:10
Speaker 4: we've seen the last of bigotry.
1:11:13
Speaker 1: Amen to that. You know, you comment about JFK, and
1:11:16
Speaker 1: one of the reasons, I suppose, he won was the
1:11:19
Speaker 1: debate with Nixon, where Nixon looked all washed out and pale,
1:11:22
Speaker 1: and Kennedy was fresh off of a long day in
1:11:24
Speaker 1: the bath and was all makeuped up. And he was
1:11:29
Speaker 1: a good-looking, sharp-witted, and intelligent guy. He came across as great,
1:11:33
Speaker 1: and whether or not he had any substance behind his exterior,
1:11:36
Speaker 1: you know, looks, I just think that was maybe the
1:11:39
Speaker 1: beginning of looks and and polish versus substance becoming a
1:11:45
Speaker 1: predominant factor in American politics. I mean, I don't think
1:11:48
Speaker 1: a guy like Gavin Newsom could be hired for a
1:11:51
Speaker 1: McDonald's manager, but look at him. He's good-looking, and he's polished,
1:11:55
Speaker 1: and he dresses great, and he's the leader of California.
1:11:59
Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest economies in the world. But
1:12:01
Speaker 1: he lacks in substance. We live in a TV age,
1:12:05
Speaker 1: and you've got to really look good to get votes
1:12:07
Speaker 1: these days. At least that's my impression. At least it
1:12:08
Speaker 1: seems to be, Jack.
1:12:09
Speaker 4: 1960, the Kennedy-Nixon year, we were on the cusp of
1:12:14
Speaker 4: the TV age. Many people heard that debate on the radio,
1:12:18
Speaker 4: and they say that if you listened on the radio,
1:12:20
Speaker 4: you thought Nixon won.
1:12:21
Speaker 1: They took a.
1:12:22
Speaker 4: Poll afterward, but if you watched on TV, it was
1:12:25
Speaker 4: John F. Kennedy.
1:12:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:12:27
Speaker 1: Well, we're shallow people, Jack Atherton. I think I can
1:12:30
Speaker 1: take that away from this.
1:12:32
Speaker 4: Well, you used to be shallow, but now you're older
1:12:35
Speaker 4: and you're no longer callow.
1:12:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:12:37
Speaker 1: And you know, I just, it really bothers me, Jack.
1:12:39
Speaker 1: And you know, I have had people literally say to
1:12:42
Speaker 1: me that they're not going to vote for Ramos on
1:12:44
Speaker 1: me because he's Hindu. I don't, I don't understand that, man.
1:12:48
Speaker 1: I really don't.
1:12:49
Speaker 4: Well, that's why I talked about this topic today. I
1:12:52
Speaker 4: don't know that it's going to change people's minds, but
1:12:54
Speaker 4: I hope it makes them think twice. Um, this country,
1:12:57
Speaker 4: you know, people who are considered foreigners, you know, uh,
1:13:01
Speaker 4: you know, we were all foreigners at one point or
1:13:03
Speaker 4: another and it's, um, And we've all assimilated and we've
1:13:06
Speaker 4: all made tremendous contributions. We've got to get beyond that,
1:13:09
Speaker 4: especially when we have a great candidate like Vivek Ramaswamy.
1:13:12
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. A man who is not in
1:13:14
Speaker 1: a position to impose his religious will on anybody. Jack?
1:13:19
Speaker 4: No, nor does he want to.
1:13:20
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't. Jack Atherton, it is always a pleasure
1:13:23
Speaker 1: to have you here on the 55KRC Morning Show. Appreciate
1:13:26
Speaker 1: your brilliance each week and your thoughtful analysis. And I'll
1:13:29
Speaker 1: look forward to next Wednesday and doing it again.
1:13:30
Speaker 4: Thanks so much.
1:13:32
Speaker 1: Health and love to you and your better half, my friend.
1:13:34
Speaker 1: It's 7. See the talk station. 7.30 on a Wednesday.
1:13:40
Speaker 1: It's a regular feature. To speak with Donovan O'Neill from
1:13:42
Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity, I recommend you head on over to BuckeyeBlueprint.com.
1:13:46
Speaker 1: Everybody can help out. We've got to get people out
1:13:48
Speaker 1: to vote in November for all of the obvious reasons,
1:13:51
Speaker 1: most notably to vote for Vivek Ramaswamy and not Amy Lockdown.
1:13:55
Speaker 1: I don't have a clue. Acton, welcome back. Donovan O'Neill,
1:13:57
Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity. I love having you on the show, man.
1:14:00
Speaker 3: Brian, always good to start my Wednesday with you.
1:14:03
Speaker 1: Does anybody believe in polls anymore, Donovan? Okay, before we
1:14:06
Speaker 1: get to the poll issue, Donovan, your reaction, if, let's say,
1:14:11
Speaker 1: let's focus on the conservative side of the ledger, from me,
1:14:14
Speaker 1: little L Libertarian, all the way through the hardest evangelical
1:14:17
Speaker 1: right-wing conservative you can come up with. If that group
1:14:20
Speaker 1: of people is told over and over again that either, A,
1:14:25
Speaker 1: the polls show the Republicans are doing really, really well,
1:14:28
Speaker 1: way ahead of the Democrat challenger, or they're told, The
1:14:31
Speaker 1: Republicans are way behind the Democrat challenger. Which message, if
1:14:36
Speaker 1: you know, is more likely to get people out to
1:14:39
Speaker 1: the polls? I don't need to worry about it. We're
1:14:42
Speaker 1: so far ahead, so I'm not going to go vote. Or,
1:14:44
Speaker 1: oh my God, I'm going to prove them wrong. I'm
1:14:45
Speaker 1: going to get myself and everybody else and his brother
1:14:47
Speaker 1: to get out to the polls and vote. Do you
1:14:49
Speaker 1: know the answer to that question, Donovan?
1:14:52
Speaker 7: You know, I've given up on trying to figure out
1:14:54
Speaker 7: the answer to those kinds of questions, Brian. The polling
1:14:58
Speaker 7: is always wildly off.
1:15:00
Speaker 1: And I think.
1:15:01
Speaker 7: You know, at the end of the day, the kind
1:15:03
Speaker 7: of person who takes those polls, I think, is something
1:15:05
Speaker 7: to maybe be examined as well, because, you know, I think,
1:15:09
Speaker 7: you know, how you're doing that methodology, who actually participates
1:15:14
Speaker 7: in those things, where you're getting those samples from. I mean,
1:15:17
Speaker 7: we've seen it time and time again in recent elections.
1:15:20
Speaker 7: Polls being extraordinarily off. There's a BGSU poll on some
1:15:24
Speaker 7: stuff last cycle. Presidential polls are notoriously off. This election,
1:15:29
Speaker 7: we've seen polls notoriously off. It doesn't mean you should
1:15:31
Speaker 7: sleep on it, right, and just say, well, they're wrong,
1:15:34
Speaker 7: so we're going to win. To me, it's just you've
1:15:36
Speaker 7: got to go out and do the work. Nobody can
1:15:38
Speaker 7: predict these things with any level of accuracy.
1:15:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's the default mindset most of
1:15:45
Speaker 1: my listening audience has. I know it's mine because every
1:15:47
Speaker 1: time I see another poll and then mention what it says,
1:15:50
Speaker 1: the first thing I say is, well, we all know
1:15:52
Speaker 1: how we feel about polls these days. I think it
1:15:54
Speaker 1: really boils down to a question of who participates in them. Donovan,
1:15:59
Speaker 1: you ever pick up a phone call from a telemarketer
1:16:02
Speaker 1: or whatever and engage in a 10-minute discussion on a poll?
1:16:05
Speaker 1: I know that every opportunity I've had to do that,
1:16:07
Speaker 1: the phone call has ended probably, or I never pick
1:16:09
Speaker 1: the phone up.
1:16:11
Speaker 7: Well, I think that's a key thing, right? As we've
1:16:13
Speaker 7: seen that even in our grassroots advocacy, we've moved away
1:16:17
Speaker 7: largely from phone banking. We used to do phone banking
1:16:19
Speaker 7: a lot. We moved away from that because most people
1:16:22
Speaker 7: don't have home phones. Those who have cell phones, the
1:16:24
Speaker 7: technology filters it out.
1:16:27
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this.
1:16:27
Speaker 3: I do get texts occasionally. for surveys, and I'll pull
1:16:31
Speaker 3: those up.
1:16:33
Speaker 7: But I think more and more, that's even, for at
1:16:35
Speaker 7: least here where I'm at, they've been a little bit
1:16:37
Speaker 7: more of local issues, and somehow they're probably just pulling
1:16:40
Speaker 7: a registered voters list and randomly sampling, maybe.
1:16:43
Speaker 3: I don't know.
1:16:45
Speaker 7: It's often, I think, again, the fact that a lot
1:16:47
Speaker 7: of those are phone calls or they're internet-based, and so
1:16:50
Speaker 7: you have a lot of questions that come through, and
1:16:52
Speaker 7: you spent, you know, again, that kind of person who
1:16:54
Speaker 7: does that stuff.
1:16:55
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's entirely indicative of.
1:16:57
Speaker 7: The normal American voter, the.
1:17:01
Speaker 4: Kind of people who participate there.
1:17:03
Speaker 1: Right. Well, and I'll just interject my belief anyway, and
1:17:06
Speaker 1: I think I'm probably right on this, although no tech
1:17:09
Speaker 1: genius am I, but AI, it seems to me, could
1:17:12
Speaker 1: easily skew any one of those polls if you're doing
1:17:14
Speaker 1: an online poll. Those seem to have the least amount
1:17:17
Speaker 1: of reliability just because anybody with an internet connection or
1:17:20
Speaker 1: an IP address could probably participate.
1:17:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'll tell you what, Brian, if we were
1:17:26
Speaker 7: showing up 10, 20 points in the polls right now,
1:17:28
Speaker 7: you know I'd be on the air touting it with you,
1:17:31
Speaker 7: saying it's the gospel truth.
1:17:34
Speaker 1: That's true, but then that goes back to my original question.
1:17:36
Speaker 1: If you tell everybody out there that we're so far ahead,
1:17:39
Speaker 1: this is going to be, and it's going to be
1:17:40
Speaker 1: as red as red could possibly be in Ohio after
1:17:43
Speaker 1: the election, then maybe they wouldn't go. I just know
1:17:47
Speaker 1: that there seems to, this well-oiled, Well, oil, I'll say
1:17:52
Speaker 1: it's the far left wing of the Democrat Party seems
1:17:55
Speaker 1: to me the most motivated to do anything. They're all
1:17:58
Speaker 1: connected socially. They all will show up on a moment's
1:18:01
Speaker 1: notice if they're called to arms. They're all told to vote.
1:18:04
Speaker 1: They're all I mean, they're well connected. So that to
1:18:07
Speaker 1: me is the driving force behind the Democrats. They know
1:18:10
Speaker 1: these folks are reliable folks. They want to keep their
1:18:12
Speaker 1: NGO dollars flowing into their pockets. They want to keep
1:18:16
Speaker 1: their programs alive and well, and they use some of
1:18:19
Speaker 1: the money that's donated to those various organizations they work
1:18:21
Speaker 1: for to go out and campaign with. So that's something
1:18:24
Speaker 1: I think the Republicans lack.
1:18:28
Speaker 7: Certainly that unity, that focus, I think, you know, that's,
1:18:31
Speaker 7: I think, indicative.
1:18:32
Speaker 1: We talk about that a lot around the water cooler.
1:18:34
Speaker 7: You know, that's just indicative of the kind of people
1:18:37
Speaker 7: that we are, I think, right? You know, more independent
1:18:39
Speaker 7: minded people. Individual liberty, while our liberal Democrat friends are
1:18:44
Speaker 7: a little more collectivist in what they do, and justify
1:18:47
Speaker 7: the means in a lot of ways.
1:18:48
Speaker 1: You see it in policy and politics.
1:18:50
Speaker 7: And, you know, we have our own strengths, though, right?
1:18:54
Speaker 7: I think the principles that we carry help us be successful.
1:18:57
Speaker 7: And the dedication to the cause that we have, too,
1:19:00
Speaker 7: you know, is what you may, you know, I think
1:19:02
Speaker 7: we're starting to see a bit of that shift, you
1:19:05
Speaker 7: towards Republicans as folks are getting closer to election day
1:19:08
Speaker 7: and we're seeing people start to pay attention to what's
1:19:10
Speaker 7: really at stake.
1:19:11
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I truly hope, because really people are
1:19:14
Speaker 1: paying attention to the price of gasoline. We're going to
1:19:16
Speaker 1: talk about that with Donovan O'Neill, Americans for Prosperity, how
1:19:18
Speaker 1: it impacts the gubernatorial. It's 740 here at 55KRC Detox Station.
1:19:24
Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. Brian Thomas with Donovan O'Neill from Americans for Prosperity.
1:19:27
Speaker 1: I strongly encourage you to get over to BuckeyeBlueprint.com and
1:19:31
Speaker 1: get engaged in the process of changing the hearts and
1:19:33
Speaker 1: minds of people, most notably changing their mind to stay
1:19:36
Speaker 1: at home on election day and get out and vote.
1:19:38
Speaker 1: Donovan O'Neill, maybe a gas tax relief here in the
1:19:41
Speaker 1: state of Ohio might help. I know the pain at
1:19:44
Speaker 1: the pump is obvious to everybody. We've got a gas
1:19:46
Speaker 1: tax here in the state of Ohio of, what, 38 cents,
1:19:50
Speaker 1: 38 and a half cents per gallon. Governor DeWine said
1:19:52
Speaker 1: no to that back in May. I don't know what
1:19:54
Speaker 1: his problem is, but then again, that's been a problem
1:19:55
Speaker 1: for me for his entire administration. What the hell's he thinking?
1:19:58
Speaker 1: But You don't need a new governor to get rid
1:20:01
Speaker 1: of the gas tax right now, do you?
1:20:04
Speaker 9: No.
1:20:04
Speaker 7: In fact, you just need a good legislature willing to
1:20:06
Speaker 7: come back to the statehouse for a couple hours, pass
1:20:09
Speaker 7: a bill, and put the charge on Governor DeWine's desk.
1:20:14
Speaker 1: Slim and none.
1:20:15
Speaker 3: I'd be hard-pressed to believe he would.
1:20:17
Speaker 7: Veto something like that, especially given— dynamics at play here
1:20:20
Speaker 7: in Ohio right now with fuel prices.
1:20:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the gubernatorial candidates, my understanding, correct me if
1:20:26
Speaker 1: I'm wrong with my understanding, Donovan O'Neill, is that both
1:20:28
Speaker 1: Acton and Ramaswamy have come out with the idea of
1:20:31
Speaker 1: suspending the gas tax to give us some relief. Although,
1:20:34
Speaker 1: if I have the order of things right, Acton came
1:20:37
Speaker 1: out first with that proposal, didn't she?
1:20:40
Speaker 7: Well, and I think this is actually a key thing
1:20:42
Speaker 7: to point out here. Yes, based on Twitter and few
1:20:46
Speaker 7: hours before Vivek put out his comprehensive plan. But we've
1:20:50
Speaker 7: had lawmakers, you mentioned going back to May, we've had lawmakers, politicians,
1:20:54
Speaker 7: political commentators consistently talk about lowering the gas tax or
1:20:59
Speaker 7: freezing the gas tax, but it's never backed up with
1:21:02
Speaker 7: a plan. And I think what caught our eyes particularly
1:21:05
Speaker 7: on this was vivakes comprehensive plan. There's actually a laying
1:21:11
Speaker 7: out how we're going to pay for this because, you know,
1:21:13
Speaker 7: and I say this as somebody who works every day
1:21:15
Speaker 7: to eliminate taxes in the state of Ohio and proud
1:21:17
Speaker 7: of it, Brian, if you just turn that tax revenue off,
1:21:22
Speaker 7: that has real impact. And those gas taxes go towards
1:21:26
Speaker 7: roads and bridges and other things. We need to make sure, right,
1:21:30
Speaker 7: if we're But if we're going to suspend that, that
1:21:33
Speaker 7: there is a plan to pay for, right? Have the
1:21:35
Speaker 7: trade-off conversation. Most politicians don't, right? They spend like drunken
1:21:38
Speaker 7: sailors and say the next generation.
1:21:40
Speaker 1: Will pay for it.
1:21:41
Speaker 7: What I like about Vivek Macaulay's plan here, that it
1:21:44
Speaker 7: looks like the House and Senate will find out more
1:21:46
Speaker 7: today might take up, is that they actually have a
1:21:48
Speaker 7: plan to say this is going to have to come
1:21:50
Speaker 7: from ODOT's money first.
1:21:53
Speaker 8: And any other cash.
1:21:53
Speaker 7: Balance ODOT doesn't have, it's going to come out of
1:21:55
Speaker 7: the general revenue first. And then ultimately the goal is
1:21:57
Speaker 7: going to be to get hard on the Medicaid fraud.
1:22:00
Speaker 7: And we're going to use that money. We're going to
1:22:02
Speaker 7: earmark that money when that time comes to ultimately backfill it.
1:22:05
Speaker 7: Either way, having a sober assessment of it, I think
1:22:08
Speaker 7: is refreshing in politics. Again, too many folks just say
1:22:11
Speaker 7: the next generation will pay the bill without having a
1:22:14
Speaker 7: plan for what to do today.
1:22:16
Speaker 1: Fair enough. I guess we take in, I did a
1:22:20
Speaker 1: quick AI search about the total. Ohio collects approximately $ 2. 6
1:22:22
Speaker 1: billion annually. They're not talking about, at least my understanding is,
1:22:27
Speaker 1: either proposal is not talking about a complete year-long suspension
1:22:32
Speaker 1: or eradication of the gas tax. It's just like a
1:22:34
Speaker 1: 90-day suspension to hopefully get us past the current disruptions.
1:22:39
Speaker 1: And I suppose that's a suggestion of optimism that the
1:22:42
Speaker 1: war in the Middle East is going to be resolved
1:22:44
Speaker 1: within 90 days.
1:22:46
Speaker 7: Well, I think that would be the hope. I mean,
1:22:48
Speaker 7: the larger challenge with fuel prices, right, gas tax, 38.5
1:22:51
Speaker 7: cents goes a long way when you're pushing $ 5 a gallon.
1:22:55
Speaker 1: In the state for unleaded.
1:22:56
Speaker 7: But, you know, we have some larger energy challenges that
1:22:59
Speaker 7: we find ourselves in that put us here. I think
1:23:01
Speaker 7: the other thing to point out too, when you look
1:23:03
Speaker 7: at general revenue funds, we're about 1.82 billion, I think,
1:23:07
Speaker 7: in last fiscal year. over estimates. And that's with Brian,
1:23:12
Speaker 7: by the way, proud to say, Ohio moving to a
1:23:14
Speaker 7: flat income tax, right? We've made good tax policy. We've
1:23:17
Speaker 7: seen what pro-economic growth tax policy can do. It gives
1:23:21
Speaker 7: the state some flexibility to be able to do these
1:23:23
Speaker 7: things and still meet the obligations, you know, to our
1:23:26
Speaker 7: roads and bridges and other infrastructure that, you know, we may,
1:23:30
Speaker 7: you know, if we didn't have that padding there, may
1:23:33
Speaker 7: not be.
1:23:33
Speaker 1: Able to do it this time. All right, Don O'Neill,
1:23:35
Speaker 1: bear with me. We're going to take a quick break here,
1:23:37
Speaker 1: and I want to talk with you about the Houston
1:23:39
Speaker 1: Brown race and what we can do to change the
1:23:42
Speaker 1: dynamic on that one. I don't get people's traction.
1:23:44
Speaker 3: The Talk Station.
1:23:48
Speaker 1: It's 749-55-KRC, The Talk Station. Brian Thomas with Don O'Neill
1:23:52
Speaker 1: from Americans for Prosperity. AFP Action is where you find them,
1:23:57
Speaker 1: or BuckeyeBlueprint.com. It's AFP Action, too, but you want to
1:24:00
Speaker 1: go to BuckeyeBlueprint.com and figure out what's going on in
1:24:02
Speaker 1: the state of Ohio and, uh, how to get involved
1:24:04
Speaker 1: with the door knocking campaign. They'll train you. They'll tell
1:24:06
Speaker 1: you what to do. And you'll actually have an enjoyable
1:24:08
Speaker 1: experience based upon everything I've heard from Donovan, right? Donovan. Oh, absolutely.
1:24:13
Speaker 7: In fact, it's, it's quite refreshing when you actually go
1:24:15
Speaker 7: out and you have a conversation at somebody's doorstep about
1:24:19
Speaker 7: the issues they care about, you know, what, what they're,
1:24:22
Speaker 7: where they're inclined to vote. Even the folks who indicate
1:24:26
Speaker 7: they're leaning towards a Sherrod Brown, um, You know, I
1:24:29
Speaker 7: got to say a lot of those most all of
1:24:31
Speaker 7: those conversations walk away from in a very cordial way
1:24:36
Speaker 7: and may disagree on how to solve the problems in
1:24:39
Speaker 7: this nation. But that's why our door knocking campaigns go
1:24:42
Speaker 7: year round.
1:24:42
Speaker 3: Right. We'll be back.
1:24:43
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him, Brian.
1:24:44
Speaker 3: We're going to we're going to win him over before
1:24:45
Speaker 3: they they vote here in a few weeks.
1:24:47
Speaker 1: All right. And convincingly vote for John Houston over Sherrod Brown.
1:24:50
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of a challenge. I'm going to
1:24:53
Speaker 1: qualify it again. OK, we know how we feel about polls.
1:24:55
Speaker 3: Fine.
1:24:55
Speaker 1: We got that out of the way. At least go
1:24:57
Speaker 1: to a real clear polling average. We'll look at all
1:25:00
Speaker 1: of the various polls and be provided with an average.
1:25:02
Speaker 1: Brown up 4.8 over Houston. Is John having trouble getting
1:25:08
Speaker 1: some traction? How do you analyze this one, Donovan?
1:25:13
Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the things we.
1:25:14
Speaker 7: Knew from the beginning of the campaign was that Sherrod
1:25:16
Speaker 7: Brown has near universal name ID, right? 50 years in politics,
1:25:20
Speaker 7: 20 years in the Senate. He's somebody who voters have
1:25:25
Speaker 7: opinions on, right? The real work here has been for
1:25:28
Speaker 7: a while to build up John Husted's name ID, make
1:25:32
Speaker 7: sure voters understand what their senator is doing in the
1:25:36
Speaker 7: short 18 months, now at this point nearly 20, 22 months,
1:25:41
Speaker 7: that their senator has been in Washington working for them.
1:25:44
Speaker 7: So that's, I think, a large part of the challenge,
1:25:46
Speaker 7: is building up the voter's impression of candidate and pushing
1:25:51
Speaker 7: back the other dynamic at play here is for the
1:25:54
Speaker 7: first time in his career sugar brown is actually running
1:25:57
Speaker 7: not from an elected office and so he's able you
1:26:01
Speaker 7: know he does he's able to go out and campaign
1:26:03
Speaker 7: any way he wants and as the masterful political chameleon
1:26:06
Speaker 7: that he is the message that you're hearing from him
1:26:09
Speaker 7: right the voters who hear from him are hearing a
1:26:11
Speaker 7: message of a really a moderate yeah blue dog democrat
1:26:15
Speaker 7: but we know that's not the case not that that's.
1:26:17
Speaker 1: Not him You know what the thing is about Sherrod Brown?
1:26:20
Speaker 1: He's like a wolf in sheep's clothing. He doesn't run
1:26:22
Speaker 1: around screaming about women having a play against men because
1:26:26
Speaker 1: that's just the right thing to do or anything else
1:26:28
Speaker 1: that the far left wing of the Democrats, that they support,
1:26:31
Speaker 1: that they're now trying to walk away and distance themselves from.
1:26:34
Speaker 1: But that's him. I mean, he votes with the Democrats.
1:26:37
Speaker 1: What's the statistic on that? 98% of the time?
1:26:41
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yep.
1:26:42
Speaker 7: That's about that's about right. And depends on different people.
1:26:45
Speaker 7: But yes, nearly 100 percent of the time Sherry Brown.
1:26:47
Speaker 1: Votes with his party.
1:26:48
Speaker 7: And what's changed in the last 20 years, let alone
1:26:51
Speaker 7: last 50 years, right, is the composition and the things
1:26:54
Speaker 7: that the Democratic Party cares about.
1:26:56
Speaker 3: Exactly. We talked about it before.
1:26:58
Speaker 7: It's that Democrat socialist agenda, right? It's co-opted the Democrat
1:27:01
Speaker 7: Party that maybe our fathers, grandfathers would have voted in.
1:27:06
Speaker 7: It's totally different than what many folks associate with traditional
1:27:11
Speaker 7: worker values that the Democrat Party sort of built a
1:27:14
Speaker 7: brand around. In the last century, the last couple of decades,
1:27:21
Speaker 7: it's really been about the craziness, and the Democrat socialists
1:27:24
Speaker 7: are on full tilt here.
1:27:25
Speaker 1: No doubt about it, Donovan O'Neill. And, boy, couldn't we
1:27:29
Speaker 1: use a bunch of Kennedy-era Democrats, John F. Kennedy Democrats,
1:27:33
Speaker 1: who would be advocating for lowering taxes, for example? My
1:27:37
Speaker 1: other world's changed. It's a different place. But, you know,
1:27:41
Speaker 1: that's why the work is so important, right?
1:27:42
Speaker 7: Because especially, you know, I was talking with Joe before
1:27:45
Speaker 7: it came on the air today about the TV ads
1:27:47
Speaker 7: and the political environment.
1:27:48
Speaker 3: You're getting bombarded with those ads.
1:27:50
Speaker 7: The mail is starting to pile up. It's why those
1:27:52
Speaker 7: conversations at the door that we have, right, to be
1:27:54
Speaker 7: able to actually talk to people. Here's what John Husted
1:27:56
Speaker 7: has done. Here's where Sherrod Brown has voted on, right?
1:27:59
Speaker 7: These are just the facts. We'll lay them out, have
1:28:01
Speaker 7: the conversation at the door. That wins votes, and it's
1:28:04
Speaker 7: why we believe in it and do it tirelessly and
1:28:07
Speaker 7: will be for the next several weeks.
1:28:08
Speaker 1: It's a great concept, the idea of actually talking to someone,
1:28:11
Speaker 1: answering their questions, and maybe walking through some of the stark,
1:28:15
Speaker 1: crazy allegations that are levied by political action committees in
1:28:19
Speaker 1: those ads. If you get somebody alone for a couple
1:28:22
Speaker 1: of minutes, you can explain away that nonsense pretty darn easily.
1:28:25
Speaker 1: It's just impossible to do in a 30-second ad buy. Well, absolutely.
1:28:30
Speaker 7: And those 30-second ad buys, right, they're going to get
1:28:32
Speaker 7: crazier and sillier as we get closer to Election Day.
1:28:36
Speaker 1: It's walking folks through the facts, talking through the circumstances.
1:28:40
Speaker 7: And, you know, we have a lot of that. And
1:28:42
Speaker 7: I'm excited now that we're getting into that fall weather.
1:28:45
Speaker 7: It gets even better, right, because we're not up there sweating.
1:28:49
Speaker 7: And so your conversations are a little bit better.
1:28:51
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:28:53
Speaker 1: They don't have to let you in to keep the
1:28:54
Speaker 1: air conditioning from going out that side. So you can
1:28:57
Speaker 1: stand on the front porch and talk with them and
1:28:58
Speaker 1: be comfortable. One little small thing that makes it so
1:29:00
Speaker 1: much easier. It makes it really easy by going to BuckeyeBlueprint.com.
1:29:04
Speaker 1: AFP has done everything they can to get you involved,
1:29:07
Speaker 1: and I encourage you to do so. Just shy of
1:29:09
Speaker 1: 806 here at 55KRCB Talk Station. Very happy Wednesday to you.
1:29:12
Speaker 1: Bottom of the hour, Judge Anna Napolitano. When war comes home,
1:29:16
Speaker 1: a constitutional warning. Subject of his op-ed piece. And without
1:29:20
Speaker 1: further ado, I mentioned this man's name earlier in the
1:29:22
Speaker 1: program in the context of the Anderson Township trustees, well,
1:29:27
Speaker 1: admitting that they violated the open meetings laws. And I said,
1:29:30
Speaker 1: Joe Strucker, aren't they all Democrats over in Anderson Town?
1:29:33
Speaker 1: He said, yeah. Somebody had to pull the flag out
1:29:35
Speaker 1: a little while ago. I remember the days when Drew
1:29:37
Speaker 1: Pappas and Josh Gerth were trustees and Man, business seemed
1:29:40
Speaker 1: to be really booming over in Anderson Township, right, Andrew Pappas?
1:29:43
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling this morning. I don't know if you
1:29:44
Speaker 1: heard me mention your name earlier today, but things have changed.
1:29:48
Speaker 3: You know, I did, and I appreciate it, but I
1:29:51
Speaker 3: don't want to be, you know, I don't want to
1:29:53
Speaker 3: forget that I handed off the reins to a very
1:29:57
Speaker 3: qualified and competent trustee. That would be Lexi Lawson, who
1:30:00
Speaker 3: took my place. She was great. She was great, and
1:30:04
Speaker 3: under their good stewardship, the township was in good hands.
1:30:09
Speaker 3: And I just, you know, I read the report or
1:30:14
Speaker 3: the ruling from, I guess it would be, what's the
1:30:17
Speaker 3: legal term? When the judge signs off on the, I
1:30:20
Speaker 3: guess it would be the ruling. And well, I'm not
1:30:24
Speaker 3: an attorney.
1:30:25
Speaker 1: Like you, so forgive me.
1:30:26
Speaker 3: But the point of the matter is I was I
1:30:30
Speaker 3: was disturbed by what had occurred. And, you know, listen,
1:30:34
Speaker 3: I served with D Stone. I would say D Stone
1:30:36
Speaker 3: is is more on the definitely more on the independent side.
1:30:40
Speaker 3: I wouldn't classify her as a Democrat per se. So
1:30:44
Speaker 3: I just want to give the deference on that. But
1:30:47
Speaker 3: the two radicals and I do mean radicals that were
1:30:51
Speaker 3: elected this last cycle caused me great concern because. Um,
1:30:58
Speaker 3: this is what happens. And I want to discuss this
1:31:00
Speaker 3: with you because we have an election coming up. This
1:31:03
Speaker 3: is what happens. And this was caused simply by complacency
1:31:06
Speaker 3: on the part of conservatives and on the part of Republicans.
1:31:10
Speaker 3: And what happened out here in Anderson is, is, uh,
1:31:13
Speaker 3: sadly happening all over the country, um, where Republicans get
1:31:17
Speaker 3: comfortable and conservatives get comfortable and they say, you know what?
1:31:22
Speaker 3: I don't have to, I don't have to, uh, I
1:31:24
Speaker 3: don't have to vote because bill next door is going
1:31:26
Speaker 3: to vote. And, you know, I, things are good out here.
1:31:28
Speaker 3: And why would anyone change what's going on? Whether that's Anderson,
1:31:33
Speaker 3: Hamilton County, Ohio, we have some very important elections. I'd
1:31:37
Speaker 3: love your discussions on Mr. Ramaswamy's Hindu religion today. I
1:31:42
Speaker 3: thought those comments were excellent and very enlightening. And, um, um,
1:31:48
Speaker 3: I hope people take those comments to heart, but, um,
1:31:52
Speaker 3: You know, when you get complacent, and this is, liberals
1:31:57
Speaker 3: creep in, and liberalism creeps in. And, you know, we
1:32:01
Speaker 3: are the, the Anderson Township right now is the poster
1:32:05
Speaker 3: child for what happens when we don't pay attention to elections.
1:32:08
Speaker 3: We are still a conservative area, overwhelmingly, I would say,
1:32:12
Speaker 3: but because of our success, many many of the younger
1:32:17
Speaker 3: folks from the city have moved here and they brought their,
1:32:21
Speaker 3: you know, because they've, they've, they've had a family. They
1:32:24
Speaker 3: want to settle down, move to a good school district.
1:32:26
Speaker 3: They want to move to a safe area. I saw,
1:32:30
Speaker 3: I was at yesterday. We had our, We had, I
1:32:33
Speaker 3: think even now the streetcar has had a stabbing on it.
1:32:37
Speaker 3: Herald Streetcar is not even a safe place to go.
1:32:39
Speaker 1: Correct. It was on the streetcar line, and the guy
1:32:43
Speaker 1: apparently then got on the streetcar. I know, because when
1:32:45
Speaker 1: I read the original headline, Strecker sent it to me yesterday.
1:32:47
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my God, I had an overwhelming
1:32:49
Speaker 1: dose of schadenfreude to hear that there was actually violence
1:32:53
Speaker 1: on the streetcar. Not that I want anybody to get hurt,
1:32:55
Speaker 1: but people know how I feel about the streetcar. So
1:32:57
Speaker 1: go ahead.
1:32:58
Speaker 9: I'm sorry.
1:32:59
Speaker 3: Well, no, I just I just you know, I would
1:33:01
Speaker 3: say that what happens is, is that people move to
1:33:04
Speaker 3: a safe area, whether it be a state. We see tech,
1:33:07
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, for example, Texas. Now we have
1:33:10
Speaker 3: a situation where Tallarico, a obvious and by any stretch
1:33:14
Speaker 3: of radical, very radical, quite freakish candidate is running neck
1:33:21
Speaker 3: and neck with a established attorney general there in the state.
1:33:24
Speaker 3: Because why? Because people flee California because of the lunacy
1:33:29
Speaker 3: of the policies enacted there. They come to a state
1:33:33
Speaker 3: and they say, you know, they forget the very reason
1:33:36
Speaker 3: that they fled their state of origin. And they say,
1:33:40
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm a Democrat and I'm going to
1:33:42
Speaker 3: vote Democrat. And then the state, what happens? This is
1:33:45
Speaker 3: what happens. So in Anderson, we had a lot of
1:33:47
Speaker 3: voters stay home this last election cycle. And I'd like
1:33:51
Speaker 3: to remind you, you know, these people ran as quote
1:33:53
Speaker 3: unquote moderates and they're anything but six, barely six trustee
1:33:58
Speaker 3: meetings into their tenure. They chose not to renew the
1:34:05
Speaker 3: contract for long standing township administrator out here, Vicki Earhart,
1:34:10
Speaker 3: who's excellent. I served with Vicki for eight years. She's excellent.
1:34:15
Speaker 3: And our two new trustees, you know, chose partisanship and
1:34:19
Speaker 3: not that Vicky is partisan by any stretch, but they
1:34:21
Speaker 3: wanted to put their stamp on things and they wanted
1:34:23
Speaker 3: to change things. You know, when I was newly elected,
1:34:27
Speaker 3: I kept my mouth shut for, which is hard. I
1:34:30
Speaker 3: kept my mouth shut for a long time and I
1:34:32
Speaker 3: just watched because I, I acknowledge, I don't know things
1:34:37
Speaker 3: and I wanted to learn things. But besides the fact
1:34:41
Speaker 3: that this went on, And so they came into office
1:34:45
Speaker 3: with their agenda. Pardon the dog. There's a school bus
1:34:47
Speaker 3: going by. I need loads of school buses. But besides
1:34:52
Speaker 3: the fact that they did this and came into office
1:34:58
Speaker 3: with an agenda and ran under auspices of being moderates,
1:35:02
Speaker 3: which they're not. Tom Hodges' comment, I mean, you're an attorney.
1:35:07
Speaker 3: I found his flippant remarks regarding this situation. I'm most concerned.
1:35:13
Speaker 3: I mean, Tom Hodges is an attorney. Shouldn't he know better?
1:35:16
Speaker 3: Or Democrats, the rules are, you know, the rules and
1:35:21
Speaker 3: laws are just there for republicans and conservatives but democrats
1:35:25
Speaker 3: like like we always say the ends justify the means
1:35:28
Speaker 3: so you know mr hodges's comments i found most disturbing
1:35:31
Speaker 3: like yeah we violated the rules it's.
1:35:34
Speaker 1: A technical violation.
1:35:37
Speaker 3: Well you know mr hodges sir i i think that
1:35:41
Speaker 3: uh that was probably some of the jurors uh arguments
1:35:45
Speaker 3: in the Clancy case. It was a technical violation. Her
1:35:48
Speaker 3: three children were killed, but technically, you know, she didn't
1:35:52
Speaker 3: necessarily mean to do it. I mean, give me a break.
1:35:56
Speaker 3: This is the liberal mind. And this is what happens
1:35:59
Speaker 3: when you put liberals in power and they run under
1:36:02
Speaker 3: the auspices of, oh, I'm just I'm a I'm a
1:36:05
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just a regular regular person. I'm I'm
1:36:09
Speaker 3: just on the Democrat Party because this, that, or the other.
1:36:13
Speaker 3: I have to argue with that because no sane person,
1:36:16
Speaker 3: no normal person would associate with the Democrat Party today
1:36:20
Speaker 3: given their radical leftist shift to socialism, communism, and just
1:36:26
Speaker 3: lunacy in general. I do question how anyone can say,
1:36:31
Speaker 3: I'm a Democrat, I'm a proud Democrat, given where their
1:36:37
Speaker 3: party has shifted to without acknowledging the fact that their
1:36:40
Speaker 3: very party has left them. A good Democrat, I would call,
1:36:44
Speaker 3: you know who I call a good Democrat? Dusty Rhodes.
1:36:46
Speaker 1: Dusty Rhodes. He's more conservative than the right wing of
1:36:51
Speaker 1: the Republican Party. Dusty Rhodes. It's like calling them leftists.
1:36:57
Speaker 3: Absolutely. And when a longtime Democrat such as Dusty Rhodes
1:37:01
Speaker 3: and many, many others, I mean, even James Carville, that
1:37:04
Speaker 3: loomed from Louisiana, he said that he can't support the
1:37:08
Speaker 3: Democrat Party because they've shifted too far to the left.
1:37:11
Speaker 3: So it's out there, folks. And Republicans, if you stay
1:37:16
Speaker 3: home or you find some reason that you say, you know,
1:37:20
Speaker 3: I'd love to vote for this guy, but He parts
1:37:24
Speaker 3: his hair on the left, and I part my hair
1:37:25
Speaker 3: on the right.
1:37:26
Speaker 5: I just don't know if I can.
1:37:27
Speaker 3: You focus on that one minuscule piece of grain of
1:37:32
Speaker 3: sand in their ethos, and you say, that's the reason
1:37:34
Speaker 3: I'm not going to vote for this person. You're doing
1:37:37
Speaker 3: not only yourself, you're doing your community, and more importantly,
1:37:40
Speaker 3: you're doing your state and country a disservice. There's no
1:37:44
Speaker 3: excuse for you not voting. We have, what, a month
1:37:48
Speaker 3: to vote here in Ohio? Yeah.
1:37:50
Speaker 1: Get it out of the way.
1:37:51
Speaker 3: You can vote absentee. It's okay. As our former and
1:37:56
Speaker 3: now state chairman, Alex Chantafilou, said so eloquently, it's okay
1:38:01
Speaker 3: to vote this way. And our current county chairman, Josh Gerth,
1:38:05
Speaker 3: who's doing an outstanding job as county chairman for the
1:38:09
Speaker 3: Republican Party, we're pushing, we're working with Americans, not working
1:38:14
Speaker 3: with per se, but we're We're volunteering for Americans for Prosperity,
1:38:18
Speaker 3: door knocking. We have great grassroots efforts, door knocking here
1:38:22
Speaker 3: in Hamilton County. You want to get involved. You want
1:38:26
Speaker 3: to change the direction of your state, your country. your county,
1:38:31
Speaker 3: your township. Vote. We need you to vote. And we
1:38:35
Speaker 3: have to have. And you mentioned it most eloquently this morning.
1:38:40
Speaker 3: The very same people, you know, we have that go
1:38:43
Speaker 3: out with the blue slate card and they vote down
1:38:46
Speaker 3: the ticket for all these judges who are. I mean,
1:38:48
Speaker 3: need we discuss the juvenile court debacle that's been going
1:38:52
Speaker 3: on for years and years here in Hamilton County?
1:38:56
Speaker 1: Bloom needs to go.
1:38:58
Speaker 3: Bloom needs to go. And we have an opportunity. You know,
1:39:02
Speaker 3: it's just this is this is not supposition. This is
1:39:05
Speaker 3: cause and effect. This is, you know, trust the science
1:39:08
Speaker 3: per se. You've seen what soft on crime judges, you've
1:39:12
Speaker 3: seen what they cause. And yet you can't make the
1:39:16
Speaker 3: connection in your head that perhaps I should go in
1:39:19
Speaker 3: a different direction. Perhaps I should choose a different path.
1:39:22
Speaker 3: Let me reward, let me choose these, at least the
1:39:26
Speaker 3: judicial candidates that are going to hold these criminals accountable
1:39:32
Speaker 3: and put them in jail and keep them in jail.
1:39:35
Speaker 3: and not be soft on crime and let these habitual
1:39:40
Speaker 3: criminals out to prey on the public.
1:39:43
Speaker 1: No question about it. Well, we go back to the
1:39:47
Speaker 1: guy that got arrested for the social media agitator who
1:39:49
Speaker 1: was responsible for all those flash mobs downtown. And they
1:39:52
Speaker 1: told him, you shouldn't do this, you're trespassing. And, of course,
1:39:55
Speaker 1: he was got a weapons under disability charge, so he
1:39:58
Speaker 1: is not allowed to have a firearm. And yet he
1:40:00
Speaker 1: brought a rifle and a semi-automatic handgun to the most
1:40:03
Speaker 1: when he got arrested. They let him out on 10%
1:40:06
Speaker 1: of $ 5, 000, 500 bucks. And the left, everybody's screaming about guns.
1:40:11
Speaker 1: They want to get guns off the street. We need
1:40:13
Speaker 1: to outlaw guns. That's a left-wing mantra. They've been singing
1:40:15
Speaker 1: that for as long as I've been alive. Well, there
1:40:17
Speaker 1: you go. There's a guy with a gun. If you
1:40:19
Speaker 1: treat him harshly, maybe he'll be an example to everybody
1:40:22
Speaker 1: else in the world who might bring a gun to
1:40:23
Speaker 1: the party.
1:40:27
Speaker 3: I think you almost had to bleep yourself there.
1:40:29
Speaker 1: Ah, you have no idea how close I come every
1:40:32
Speaker 1: single day, Drew. Swear to God.
1:40:34
Speaker 3: Quick question. I just hope. Go ahead.
1:40:36
Speaker 1: I just want to know, have the folks in Anderson
1:40:39
Speaker 1: Township who voted for these left-wing folks, have they woken
1:40:42
Speaker 1: up to that? Have they learned a lesson by any chance?
1:40:44
Speaker 1: I mean, you live out there. Can you take a
1:40:46
Speaker 1: pulse of the neighborhood?
1:40:49
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You broke up for a second.
1:40:51
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know if you could take the
1:40:53
Speaker 1: pulse of the neighborhood, would you think that people kind
1:40:55
Speaker 1: of woke up to the reality that they elected a
1:40:57
Speaker 1: bunch of left-wingers on the trustee as trustees?
1:41:02
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, I would like to say so.
1:41:05
Speaker 3: I think that people are genuinely, you know, all the
1:41:09
Speaker 3: promises that these two new radical leftist trustees supported, Democrats supported,
1:41:16
Speaker 3: and got across the finish line. They've kept none of
1:41:20
Speaker 3: their campaign promises. I think people are, you know, I
1:41:23
Speaker 3: think people are, they don't live politics maybe as much
1:41:26
Speaker 3: as you and I do. But I think that they
1:41:28
Speaker 3: are waking up and, you know, they're seeing, you know, they're,
1:41:33
Speaker 3: they're seeing there that we're seeing crime, sadly get closer
1:41:37
Speaker 3: and closer to Anderson. Not that crime doesn't occur here.
1:41:40
Speaker 3: I'd like to, you know, I'm not that naive, but
1:41:43
Speaker 3: at the end of the day you know, we, we,
1:41:45
Speaker 3: we were a, we were, we have, we have Cincinnati
1:41:49
Speaker 3: right on our doorstep and we see the, what, what
1:41:51
Speaker 3: happens in Cincinnati does spill over here and we're concerned.
1:41:55
Speaker 3: And I think people are genuinely concerned and they're thinking,
1:41:58
Speaker 3: you know, What is going to happen if our trustees
1:42:01
Speaker 3: who clearly have an agenda, who clearly ran under fake auspices?
1:42:06
Speaker 3: And might I remind you, we also have, sadly, the
1:42:10
Speaker 3: school board here is run by radical leftist Democrats. And
1:42:14
Speaker 3: I mean the most radical of the radical. And people
1:42:17
Speaker 3: are genuinely concerned and people are starting to wake up
1:42:20
Speaker 3: and show, say, you know what? I do need to vote.
1:42:22
Speaker 3: I do need to get involved. Maybe I should consider voting.
1:42:26
Speaker 3: supporting my party or my beliefs a little bit more,
1:42:30
Speaker 3: which are reflected in my party, by either donating or
1:42:35
Speaker 3: at the very minimum, I can vote. And that's all. Listen,
1:42:38
Speaker 3: I'm not asking you to write a check, although it
1:42:41
Speaker 3: would help. But I would say that the most important thing,
1:42:47
Speaker 3: the minimal thing I would ask of any voter out
1:42:50
Speaker 3: there and every voter out there, vote. Just go vote.
1:42:54
Speaker 3: Don't assume... Because bad things happen when you do that, that, oh,
1:43:00
Speaker 3: it's always been this way. It will continue to be
1:43:02
Speaker 3: this way. Because the left, to the leftists, to the
1:43:06
Speaker 3: radicals that are involved, politics is a religion to them.
1:43:11
Speaker 3: It is. It's more of a hobby. And that's why
1:43:15
Speaker 3: we don't turn out in the same numbers that they do.
1:43:18
Speaker 3: And the results are terrible for your community. They're terrible
1:43:21
Speaker 3: for the country. And I hope that people wake up.
1:43:25
Speaker 3: I hope they vote for Vivek for governor. Down the
1:43:30
Speaker 3: Republican ticket, we have a solid ticket. I can't find
1:43:33
Speaker 3: fault with any of the Republicans on the ballot, on
1:43:36
Speaker 3: our pink sheets that are going to be out. I
1:43:38
Speaker 3: hope you vote overwhelmingly and say, give the Democrats, you know,
1:43:43
Speaker 3: pull their chain. They're the ones that have shifted to
1:43:46
Speaker 3: the left and are radicalized, not the Republican Party. Whatever
1:43:50
Speaker 3: faults you might have with a Republican somewhere, The simple
1:43:54
Speaker 3: fact of the matter is, you know, you'd have to
1:43:57
Speaker 3: be flat out nuts to go vote for a Democrat
1:43:59
Speaker 3: in today's world.
1:44:00
Speaker 1: Listen to the most radical Democrats. They, too, are walking
1:44:03
Speaker 1: back their woke one ideology because it's not popular. Do
1:44:06
Speaker 1: they really walk it back? Do you believe them when
1:44:08
Speaker 1: they say, oh, that was us before? We're not doing
1:44:10
Speaker 1: that now. No blanking way. Drew Pappas, thank you so much.
1:44:15
Speaker 1: Your passionate words resonate, and I hope everybody hears them
1:44:19
Speaker 1: and heeds them. And you know what? You got a
1:44:20
Speaker 1: window of opportunity to vote. You could drive a semi-tractor
1:44:23
Speaker 1: trailer truck through. So use the window of opportunity and
1:44:27
Speaker 1: get it out of the way. Thank you, Drew. Good
1:44:28
Speaker 1: to hear from you. 821 right now. Don't go away, man.
1:44:31
Speaker 1: Napolitano's coming up. Be right back.
1:44:32
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1:44:40
Speaker 1: Judge Ed Napolitano. When war comes home, a constitutional warning.
1:44:44
Speaker 1: That's coming up next. In the meantime, got time for
1:44:46
Speaker 1: Pete's call. Hey, Pete, thanks for calling in. Happy Wednesday.
1:44:49
Speaker 9: Hey, Brian, thanks for having me on. I was hoping
1:44:53
Speaker 9: to comment about some of Andrew's statements and Republican encouragement,
1:45:00
Speaker 9: if that's okay.
1:45:01
Speaker 1: Sure.
1:45:04
Speaker 9: The one thing, and listen, I agree with so much
1:45:07
Speaker 9: of what he said. The problem is his stump speech
1:45:12
Speaker 9: is geared towards people that are already voting for Republicans.
1:45:17
Speaker 9: And where Republicans are missing out right now is holding moderates,
1:45:23
Speaker 9: moderate Republicans, ones that don't, you know, pledge allegiance to
1:45:28
Speaker 9: Trump or have these hardcore beliefs. They're just out there,
1:45:33
Speaker 9: middle-class families living their lives. They don't want to be
1:45:38
Speaker 9: embedded in all the knee-deep stuff of all of the
1:45:42
Speaker 9: entrenched far-right and left-wing politics. They just want gas affordable.
1:45:48
Speaker 9: They want to hear a governor preach how they're going
1:45:53
Speaker 9: to lower their costs. They do want safe streets. I
1:45:59
Speaker 9: agree with things that happen in urban areas.
1:46:02
Speaker 3: Sure.
1:46:03
Speaker 9: Disturbing, and Democrats are, I would say, 100% to blame.
1:46:08
Speaker 9: I get that. But when it comes to voting these days...
1:46:14
Speaker 9: It seems to start in Washington, D.C., come down through Columbus,
1:46:19
Speaker 9: and then get to our local neighborhoods. And what he's
1:46:23
Speaker 9: not talking about is what have we done to ourselves
1:46:29
Speaker 9: with $ 4. 50 a gallon gas? What have we done to
1:46:34
Speaker 9: ourselves with $ 6 a gallon diesel?
1:46:37
Speaker 1: Well, Pete, I go back to the point I made
1:46:39
Speaker 1: all the time. If you vote for a Republican, you know,
1:46:41
Speaker 1: the situation in the Middle East will eventually resolve itself
1:46:44
Speaker 1: some way. They usually do these wars, even if they
1:46:47
Speaker 1: last a long time, and the markets will go back
1:46:49
Speaker 1: to normal. And we have an abundance of gasoline being produced,
1:46:53
Speaker 1: oil being pumped out because Republicans are in charge, and
1:46:55
Speaker 1: they're not nutcase, green, New Deal kind of folks. If
1:46:59
Speaker 1: you vote for the Democrats, you're going to get more
1:47:01
Speaker 1: of that. The reason the price of gasoline went up
1:47:02
Speaker 1: under Obama and Biden, green. They wouldn't drill. They wouldn't
1:47:06
Speaker 1: allow us to have it. They wanted us to get
1:47:07
Speaker 1: an electric vehicle. They told us the price would go up.
1:47:10
Speaker 3: Why?
1:47:10
Speaker 1: Because of their rules and regulations, not because of market forces,
1:47:13
Speaker 1: because they wanted it to. Now, go ahead, vote for Democrats.
1:47:17
Speaker 1: You will have higher gas, as a matter of fact
1:47:20
Speaker 1: and principle, because without high gasoline, you wouldn't be inclined
1:47:23
Speaker 1: to buy an electric vehicle. I mean, that's what you get.
1:47:26
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a simple reality.
1:47:29
Speaker 5: Well, how about this?
1:47:30
Speaker 9: There's also a mindset that says we shouldn't do self-inflicted wounds.
1:47:36
Speaker 9: We already had been dealing with unbelievable inflationary pressures.
1:47:41
Speaker 1: The printing press.
1:47:43
Speaker 9: Why do we enter a war that's not our fight
1:47:47
Speaker 9: that ends up costing every single American a lot?
1:47:53
Speaker 1: Well, that's why you're talking to me who believes the
1:47:57
Speaker 1: Constitution says what it says, and Napolitano's going to talk
1:48:00
Speaker 1: about it. Maybe if we had engaged in a constructive
1:48:03
Speaker 1: debate before the bombs started dropping, cooler heads might have prevailed,
1:48:06
Speaker 1: and they might have pointed it out that, whoa, wait
1:48:08
Speaker 1: a minute, if we do this, does anybody consider what's
1:48:11
Speaker 1: going to happen if the Strait of Hormuz closes? Anybody consider, yeah,
1:48:14
Speaker 1: we'll blow up their military and sink their ships, but
1:48:17
Speaker 1: the massive quantity of drones and missiles that every one
1:48:20
Speaker 1: seemed to know that they had already accumulated and are
1:48:22
Speaker 1: still manufacturing right now. So yeah, I'm with you, man.
1:48:26
Speaker 5: Yep.
1:48:27
Speaker 1: I appreciate the comments, Pete. I really do. And I
1:48:29
Speaker 1: hear where you're coming from. Judge Napolitano on that situation
1:48:32
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1:48:41
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1:48:44
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1:48:48
Speaker 6: this interview, our next guest has a tryout with the
1:48:53
Speaker 6: New York Giants. He could be their very next quarterback.
1:48:57
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1:49:07
Speaker 1: I'd love to ask Judge Edna Napolitano about his knees.
1:49:10
Speaker 1: Can they stand up to the challenge? Judge Edna Napolitano,
1:49:13
Speaker 1: welcome back to the morning show. I didn't realize you
1:49:15
Speaker 1: were going to be quarterback for the Giants.
1:49:18
Speaker 2: Neither did I. I'm old enough to be Jackson Dart's grandfather.
1:49:24
Speaker 2: And he's a superb athlete, but what a crisis and
1:49:27
Speaker 2: a tragedy. It appears he's going to be out for
1:49:31
Speaker 2: the season. Anyway, these things happen. These kids are young
1:49:34
Speaker 2: and healthy, and his day will come.
1:49:36
Speaker 1: Well, we had it happen with Joe Burrow, too. Of course,
1:49:39
Speaker 1: you're not alone this year. Apparently, what, five quarterbacks are
1:49:42
Speaker 1: injured now?
1:49:44
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:49:44
Speaker 1: It's pretty bad.
1:49:45
Speaker 5: Anyway.
1:49:45
Speaker 1: All right, real quick here, Judd. Donald Trump in front
1:49:47
Speaker 1: of the U.N. yesterday, and this dovetails quite nicely with
1:49:50
Speaker 1: your column that comes out tonight at midnight when war
1:49:52
Speaker 1: comes home, a constitutional warning. And he had this to say,
1:49:54
Speaker 1: you know, now I have a big decision to make.
1:49:57
Speaker 1: Will a deal be made with Iran that lets them
1:49:58
Speaker 1: rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever
1:50:01
Speaker 1: was before, maybe one of the greatest in the Middle
1:50:03
Speaker 1: East or ever in the world? Or do I annihilate
1:50:06
Speaker 1: the Islamic Republic and do it quickly, never giving them
1:50:08
Speaker 1: a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again?
1:50:11
Speaker 1: Do I drive them into hell with no chance of
1:50:14
Speaker 1: survival and no hope of future greatness or generations? That
1:50:17
Speaker 1: sounds to me suspiciously like nuclear war. But putting that aside,
1:50:20
Speaker 1: the predicate or the preceding comments were related to the
1:50:23
Speaker 1: November election. He says the Iranians are going to wait
1:50:25
Speaker 1: it out. They want me to lose in the November elections,
1:50:27
Speaker 1: but I'm not on the ticket. And whatever they want,
1:50:30
Speaker 1: whatever the outcome of the elections, it's not going to
1:50:31
Speaker 1: change the Well, the commander-in-chief of the U.S. military. So
1:50:35
Speaker 1: he's saying this is going to go on regardless of
1:50:38
Speaker 1: the election until he gets what he wants or he
1:50:39
Speaker 1: wipes them off the face of the earth. Now, that
1:50:43
Speaker 1: being said, you and I have been over this a
1:50:45
Speaker 1: bunch of times. You talk about it in your column.
1:50:48
Speaker 1: Ever since World War II, presidents of both political stripes
1:50:51
Speaker 1: have waged war without congressional authority or any authorization. What
1:50:54
Speaker 1: happens if Congress flips, the Senate and the House both
1:50:59
Speaker 1: flip into Democrat hands? and they tell Trump that, you know,
1:51:03
Speaker 1: we're asserting the War Powers Resolution in 1973, and you
1:51:06
Speaker 1: are over time, you must pull the plug. Can he
1:51:10
Speaker 1: say no and raise his metaphorical middle finger? Or maybe
1:51:13
Speaker 1: that becomes the vehicle to challenge the constitutionality of the
1:51:16
Speaker 1: War Powers Resolution in 1973, which I think you and
1:51:18
Speaker 1: I both believe is an unconstitutional delegation of congressional authority.
1:51:23
Speaker 2: Well, it's a fascinating question. I almost can't imagine the
1:51:29
Speaker 2: Supreme Court telling the president he has to stop fighting
1:51:32
Speaker 2: a war, but yet the War Powers Resolution is the
1:51:35
Speaker 2: law of the land. It was adopted over the veto
1:51:39
Speaker 2: of President Nixon. In my view, it's unconstitutional in two respects.
1:51:44
Speaker 2: Nixon vetoed it because he felt it unconstitutionally impaired his
1:51:50
Speaker 2: ability to wage war wherever he wanted. In my view,
1:51:53
Speaker 2: it's the opposite side of the coin. It unconstitutionally delegates
1:51:59
Speaker 2: away war-making power to the president, unlimited war-making power for
1:52:03
Speaker 2: the first 60 or 90 days, depending upon how he
1:52:06
Speaker 2: wants to frame it. But there's another clause in there
1:52:10
Speaker 2: that is probably unconstitutional, and it says this is not
1:52:17
Speaker 2: subject to review by the president. Now, whenever both houses
1:52:21
Speaker 2: of Congress enact legislation and a war powers resolution telling
1:52:26
Speaker 2: him to stop as a piece of legislation, he can
1:52:30
Speaker 2: veto it or sign it. Saying that he doesn't have
1:52:34
Speaker 2: veto power probably violates the Constitution, and at least one
1:52:39
Speaker 2: or two Supreme Court opinions are coming to mind. They
1:52:44
Speaker 2: could insert the prohibition on the use of funds for
1:52:50
Speaker 2: the war into legislation that he must have, like the
1:52:54
Speaker 2: National Defense Authorization Act, which he couldn't possibly not sign
1:53:00
Speaker 2: without shutting down the Defense Department. But that's about as
1:53:05
Speaker 2: far as they can go with this. I don't think
1:53:09
Speaker 2: that any court is going to get involved. They are loath,
1:53:13
Speaker 2: particularly under Chief Justice John Roberts, to get involved in
1:53:18
Speaker 2: foreign policy.
1:53:19
Speaker 1: Well, in a political landscape that's just filled with landmines,
1:53:23
Speaker 1: you know, Democrats are going to also have to contemplate
1:53:26
Speaker 1: the reality of, well, if you just walk away, you're
1:53:29
Speaker 1: giving the Iranians everything in a bag of chips that
1:53:31
Speaker 1: they want, and that may not be even tenable for
1:53:34
Speaker 1: their own constituents.
1:53:36
Speaker 6: I don't know.
1:53:36
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not the one that has to make
1:53:38
Speaker 1: these decisions, but I certainly don't see that Democrats taking
1:53:42
Speaker 1: over is really going to change the dynamic of the
1:53:44
Speaker 1: war that's currently being waged in the Middle East, just
1:53:46
Speaker 1: for the multitude of reasons we're talking about.
1:53:48
Speaker 2: The other dynamic that will change, and this will happen
1:53:53
Speaker 2: repeatedly to the point of aggravating everybody, is they will
1:53:57
Speaker 2: probably impeach him over and over and over again. They
1:54:01
Speaker 2: won't do it just once. They already have their research done.
1:54:07
Speaker 2: They're going to hold public hearings about how he earned
1:54:10
Speaker 2: his $ 2 billion while he was president. They're going to
1:54:14
Speaker 2: put Witkoff and Kushner, who've been described by foreign diplomats
1:54:18
Speaker 2: as sophisticated grifters under oath. They're going to come up
1:54:23
Speaker 2: with as much as they can to damage him, to
1:54:27
Speaker 2: consume his PR time defending himself rather than moving forward
1:54:34
Speaker 2: with whatever the policies of his administration are. I have
1:54:38
Speaker 2: to say a comment about the phrase that you read
1:54:41
Speaker 2: from the speech yesterday. That's a war crime. It is
1:54:44
Speaker 2: a war crime to threaten to slaughter innocents using the
1:54:50
Speaker 2: power of the government. And that's what he that's what
1:54:52
Speaker 2: he did.
1:54:54
Speaker 1: Even notwithstanding the First Amendment right to free speech is
1:54:57
Speaker 1: broad as we interpret that.
1:54:58
Speaker 2: Well, the war crime is an international crime, so the
1:55:01
Speaker 2: First Amendment doesn't apply. This is one of the reasons
1:55:05
Speaker 2: he's trying to undermine the International Criminal Court, because he
1:55:11
Speaker 2: has properties around the world. If he's indicted by the court,
1:55:14
Speaker 2: he won't be able to visit those properties.
1:55:17
Speaker 3: Huh.
1:55:19
Speaker 1: I never gave that a moment's thought on that. How
1:55:21
Speaker 1: about that, Judge Annapolitano? So I guess we're just in
1:55:25
Speaker 1: wait-and-see mode like we've been since post-World War II in
1:55:27
Speaker 1: connection with every military engagement we've been involved with, huh?
1:55:31
Speaker 2: Right.
1:55:32
Speaker 3: Right.
1:55:32
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows what's going to happen? I don't
1:55:38
Speaker 2: think the Iranians will negotiate anything. They believe they have
1:55:42
Speaker 2: a binding deal with him. He signed the Memorandum of
1:55:47
Speaker 2: Understanding ostentatiously in the Palace of Versailles in front of
1:55:51
Speaker 2: an international audience, and then two days.
1:55:54
Speaker 1: Later, Someone said, probably shouldn't have signed it. Well, I know.
1:55:58
Speaker 1: Two days later, the Iranians started bombing boats. It's like,
1:56:01
Speaker 1: wait a second. The ink wasn't even dry in the
1:56:04
Speaker 1: damn thing. And then, you know, if you read it,
1:56:06
Speaker 1: to say it's loosely written and subject to multiple interpretations,
1:56:10
Speaker 1: I think, is a valid way of viewing it.
1:56:12
Speaker 2: Well, it was written by a guy named J.D. Vance.
1:56:16
Speaker 2: I don't think Donald Trump read it before he signed it,
1:56:18
Speaker 2: but that's what the Iranians believe is the governing relationship between...
1:56:25
Speaker 2: The two countries. The president of Iran and the foreign
1:56:27
Speaker 2: minister of Iran are just a couple of blocks from
1:56:30
Speaker 2: where I am now. They're at the UN. They're limited
1:56:35
Speaker 2: in their ability to travel, but they are here. I
1:56:39
Speaker 2: don't know when the last time is that a head
1:56:43
Speaker 2: of state with which the United States is at war
1:56:46
Speaker 2: has come into the United States. Certainly the Germans didn't
1:56:49
Speaker 2: visit during World War II.
1:56:50
Speaker 3: No.
1:56:52
Speaker 1: I guess that suggests that they at least have comfort
1:56:54
Speaker 1: in our commitment to their security.
1:56:57
Speaker 2: Yes.
1:56:57
Speaker 1: There you go.
1:56:58
Speaker 2: Yes, they have been told that the U.S. will protect them,
1:57:01
Speaker 2: providing they stay in about a four or five block
1:57:06
Speaker 2: radius of the U.N., which if you're looking at Manhattan
1:57:11
Speaker 2: is right in the middle, but all the way east
1:57:13
Speaker 2: on the East River.
1:57:14
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they had that much confidence considering Donald Trump
1:57:17
Speaker 1: almost had his head blown off in spite of the
1:57:19
Speaker 1: fact that he's got Secret Service working around him all
1:57:22
Speaker 1: the time.
1:57:22
Speaker 4: Good point.
1:57:24
Speaker 1: Judge Annapolitano, you know that memorandum of understanding was rather
1:57:27
Speaker 1: suspicious from the get-go when they included Israel and Israel
1:57:30
Speaker 1: committing to getting out of Gaza or whatever it was.
1:57:33
Speaker 1: They weren't even signatories to the agreement. Found that puzzling, too.
1:57:38
Speaker 2: That's probably the reason why he rejected it. He read
1:57:41
Speaker 2: it afterwards and said, well, Bibi's not going to go
1:57:43
Speaker 2: along with this. Why did I sign it?
1:57:45
Speaker 1: I know.
1:57:47
Speaker 5: Excuse me.
1:57:48
Speaker 1: Judging Freedom is the podcast. I presume you have your
1:57:51
Speaker 1: usual Wednesday guests on. Is there any addition that you
1:57:53
Speaker 1: want to let my listeners know before we part company?
1:57:55
Speaker 3: I do.
1:57:55
Speaker 2: Well, Professor Jeffrey Sachs will give us a preview of
1:57:59
Speaker 2: what Prime Minister Netanyahu is likely to tell a largely
1:58:04
Speaker 2: empty General Assembly chamber when he addresses them tomorrow.
1:58:08
Speaker 1: Astute observation. Judge Anna Napolitano, we'll do this again next Wednesday, sir.
1:58:12
Speaker 1: God bless you.
1:58:14
Speaker 3: Thank you. All the best to you, Brian.
1:58:15
Speaker 5: Bye-bye.
1:58:16
Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. 841 right now. If you don't
1:58:17
Speaker 1: care to see the talk station, let's put.