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Oh, and Parliament, You’re Fired | Charles I · Beheaded

0:04
SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to Beheaded.
0:07
SPEAKER_01: Welcome to season three, number three, episode one.
0:10
SPEAKER_01: I'm Megan Moore.
0:11
SPEAKER_01: And I'm Elizabeth Flack.
0:13
SPEAKER_01: I missed you guys.
0:14
SPEAKER_01: We missed you a lot.
0:16
SPEAKER_01: We missed each other?
0:17
SPEAKER_01: We missed each other a lot.
0:19
SPEAKER_01: We honestly didn't see much of each other in the offseason, and we missed each other.
0:23
SPEAKER_01: We miss you.
0:23
SPEAKER_01: We miss each other.
0:24
SPEAKER_01: We like did this couple sound checks where we were just talking for a very long time and we're like, oh yeah, we're here to record.
0:31
SPEAKER_01: Record an episode right now.
0:33
SPEAKER_00: We just did like a three-hour sound check just getting caught up in our in each other's lives.
0:37
SPEAKER_01: I know.
0:38
SPEAKER_01: We had a weird, busy, crazy summer, but all good things.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: Good stuff.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
0:44
SPEAKER_00: I have to admit, the summer flew by.
0:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
0:47
SPEAKER_00: I cannot believe it's November.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know what happened.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, we are glad that you are here and you're listening to us.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: We are still alive.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: I did not want you to think that we died.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: No.
0:59
SPEAKER_00: I I actually have a really funny story.
1:02
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:02
SPEAKER_00: So um I went to a very prestigious work party for my husband a couple months ago.
1:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:11
SPEAKER_00: And it was one of those things.
1:13
SPEAKER_00: It was at a very fancy, it's called the Biltmore.
1:15
SPEAKER_00: It's like a very fancy hotel in Phoenix.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: You gotta go there.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful.
1:19
SPEAKER_00: It's Art Deco from the 1920s.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: It was a three-day event.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: I think designed by Frank Lloyd Wright, if I'm not mistaken.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: It is.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:28
SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
1:29
SPEAKER_00: And it was a three-day event.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, on Saturday, it was an all-day pool party and then a very nice dinner.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: And we were everyone was, you know, drinking at the pool and it was a good time.
1:43
SPEAKER_00: Everything was open bar.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: So at night, it the dinner was like buffet style, but it was big round tables, and you know, you got your plate and got to sit wherever you want.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, a party of people sat around me, and Jake was still fixing up his plate, and I just, you know, start making conversation with everyone around me.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea who they are.
2:04
SPEAKER_00: It's all my husband's company.
2:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm just the taglong.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: Just the plus one.
2:08
SPEAKER_00: My go-to is like, well, I host a podcast.
2:11
SPEAKER_00: It's called Beheaded.
2:13
SPEAKER_00: Here's my card.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: I deal with black.
2:16
SPEAKER_01: I like that that's just your starter conversation.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: You're like, hi, Megan.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: So here's a card.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: Are you interested in beheadings?
2:22
SPEAKER_01: How much do you like history and executions?
2:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's kind of what came out.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: And at this point, I was maybe like three glasses of wine in.
2:29
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like getting a little chatty.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: And um, so I ended on a really sour note about my my spiel on the podcast.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: Where it was this awkward moment where it just went quiet.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: And I ended with, I love beheadings.
2:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: It was so terrible.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: And they all kind of looked at me awkwardly because half the table did not hear the conversation and didn't know what I was even talking about.
2:57
SPEAKER_01: So it's like one of those moments where like music stops.
2:59
SPEAKER_01: Music is quiet.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: I just love beheading.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: And five of like the ten people just look at me at the table.
3:07
SPEAKER_00: It gets better.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: The guy who I was talking to was like, okay, well, I need to go make a speech.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
3:13
SPEAKER_00: Stands up, grabs the microphone.
3:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:15
SPEAKER_00: And evidently he's the CEO of the company.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: Oh boy.
3:21
SPEAKER_00: And it was also 9-11.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: And he made he instantly went into a speech about 9-11, and I just ended on the note of I love beheadings, and I kind of wanted to die in that moment.
3:35
SPEAKER_01: He's like, as we honor the 20th year anniversary.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to be very specific.
3:40
SPEAKER_00: This podcast is about historical executions.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: Like Romans, British people, Egyptians, messed up people from the 1500s, 1400s.
3:53
SPEAKER_00: Like not currently.
3:54
SPEAKER_00: The latest we've done is 1940.
3:57
SPEAKER_00: Or sorry, earliest.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: Like earliest?
3:59
SPEAKER_00: Latest.
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SPEAKER_00: Earliest.
4:00
SPEAKER_01: The latest in the history timeline.
4:02
SPEAKER_00: Most recent?
4:02
SPEAKER_00: Most recent is like 1940s.
4:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:06
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, I need to put that out there.
4:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, that was kind of a low point in my life.
4:11
SPEAKER_01: Everyone's like, what was this girl talking about on the anniversary of 9-11 about beheadings?
4:16
SPEAKER_01: Cool.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: I just want to be real clear.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, this we are a historical podcast.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: I like specific beheadings.
4:24
SPEAKER_01: I like queens, kings, nobility, traitors, traitors, treasonous people.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: Like based drunken pirates.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: Drawn and quartering.
4:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Nothing scary.
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SPEAKER_00: Nothing terrible here.
4:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:39
SPEAKER_01: I think if it's been at least 80 years, we're we're okay to talk about it and make fun of it.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: And you know, yeah, and that's what we're here for.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: You know, we we need a laugh every now and then.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: That's true.
4:49
SPEAKER_01: And bringing that up too, I will say, like, obviously, this is our third season, right?
4:54
SPEAKER_01: So we've had two under our belt.
4:55
SPEAKER_01: And I think our first season was just like a lot of figuring out what we wanted to do, what our style was, getting our first followers.
5:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, season two, I think we had some like kind of true fans and people that were really excited about it.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: And during the off season, I think we got our first like haters.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: We did.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: We got bad reviews.
5:12
SPEAKER_01: We got our first bad reviews.
5:13
SPEAKER_01: High five.
5:13
SPEAKER_01: High five.
5:14
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, they don't boo nobodies.
5:17
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
5:17
SPEAKER_00: You're not a something until people hate you.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
5:20
SPEAKER_01: Because I was kind of impressed when we got our first like actual real criticisms.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: My my favorite was a really bad review, but she still gave us four stars.
5:30
SPEAKER_00: Couldn't have been that bad.
5:32
SPEAKER_00: Like bad comments, not bad on the star rating.
5:35
SPEAKER_01: So, like, you know, you've gotten things like uh we have strong accents.
5:38
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that means.
5:40
SPEAKER_01: Don't know what they're talking about.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: I do know I talk over you a lot.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to fix it.
5:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm just eager.
5:49
SPEAKER_01: She's eager.
5:49
SPEAKER_01: We give her three glasses of wine and we expect her not to talk over people and say things like I love beheadings.
5:54
SPEAKER_01: Go crazy.
5:57
SPEAKER_01: Me and the executionados.
5:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then what was the other one we got?
6:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love the one that we got like right after our Anne Boleyn, which us, okay, we both love Anne Boleyn a lot.
6:07
SPEAKER_01: And we understatement.
6:09
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
6:10
SPEAKER_01: We know a lot about her.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: We both read many books on her, and we had like a girl who works at historical palaces of London, and then I think one of our first comments was like full of historical inaccuracies.
6:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, well, we also don't claim to be like PhDs here.
6:25
SPEAKER_01: We all say always we are not historians.
6:28
SPEAKER_01: We are novice, like just people that enjoy Wikipedia.
6:31
SPEAKER_00: Reading off the Wikipedia page is all they're doing.
6:34
SPEAKER_01: So if you're coming here to write your dissertation, I think you found the wrong source.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: This is for entertainment.
6:40
SPEAKER_01: And you can.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, run away.
6:43
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: I've seen people's uh thes thesi.
6:46
SPEAKER_01: Thesi?
6:47
SPEAKER_01: Thesis?
6:48
SPEAKER_01: Is that a word?
6:50
SPEAKER_01: You know, plural of thesis?
6:52
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
6:54
SPEAKER_01: And I will say, I mean, we're not the worst source you can find.
7:00
SPEAKER_01: There are worse than us.
7:02
SPEAKER_01: There are.
7:02
SPEAKER_01: So we're not that bad, you know?
7:04
SPEAKER_01: We give our opinions into the subject.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: We create color to the story.
7:09
SPEAKER_01: We always everything that we say comes from like a true source.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: It's not like we just like make it up, flip it on the cuff.
7:15
SPEAKER_01: We might speculate certain things.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: We're passionate.
7:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:18
SPEAKER_01: Like, what was the episode where you call started calling the main girl prostitute a lot?
7:24
SPEAKER_01: And that was not clear in our readings that she was.
7:26
SPEAKER_01: Was it the half half not it wasn't half-hangit Maggie?
7:29
SPEAKER_01: It was the uh half-hangit.
7:31
SPEAKER_01: No, it was Black Betty.
7:32
SPEAKER_01: I think Black Betty.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: Bamba, but that was a fun episode.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: I think you just kept calling her prostitute out of nowhere.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: In my mind, she felt a little prostitute.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: But she did say, Megan did say that.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: That was my own opinion.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: In my own opinion, she was a prostitute.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, well, welcome to Beheaded, if you've never listened to us before.
7:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, my apologies.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: Welcome.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: This is us.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: This is Elizabeth and Megan.
7:52
SPEAKER_00: We're here to talk about executions.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we love it.
7:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm allowed one song per episode.
7:58
SPEAKER_01: I know I nixed that two seasons ago, but she still does it.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm okay with it.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, what are so what are you up to?
8:04
SPEAKER_01: What what what what's what's your what's what's your life?
8:07
SPEAKER_01: Dude, honestly, like again, it's been such a crazy summer.
8:09
SPEAKER_01: I feel like I haven't seen Megan at all.
8:10
SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen anyone at all.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: No, you haven't.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: I know.
8:13
SPEAKER_01: Holding it against you.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm it's fine.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: I just I'm trying to participate in my social circles and it's not working.
8:17
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I already gave her shit for it.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: But my sister actually recently moved to Arizona where we live.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, we've told you guys before, but we're in our early 30s.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'm now 33.
8:28
SPEAKER_01: And my sister's my sister's 23.
8:31
SPEAKER_01: So she's moving to Phoenix.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: Like, this is her the start of her young adult life.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: And so it's been really weird for me this summer because I've been like almost reverting back to that state with her where like our mom calls us and is like, hey, do you know how to make pasta?
8:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, do you know how to pay your online bills?
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Like, let me know.
8:47
SPEAKER_01: Mom, I've done this before.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, can I call the cable company for you?
8:50
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I'm 33, like, been a homeowner for 11 years.
8:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, I, you know, I'm very much an adult.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I forget that obviously my sister's just starting out.
9:00
SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of that kind of going on of like all of a sudden I feel like I've been like shot back 10 years into my past, which is good and bad.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, uh, like it's just a lot.
9:11
SPEAKER_01: It's a lot.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: But we're gonna get through it.
9:13
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be fine.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: Did you hear that?
9:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was my computer telling me.
9:19
SPEAKER_00: I thought it was my glass of wine dinging.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: No, it's my computer telling me that I have a task to do.
9:24
SPEAKER_01: What's your task?
9:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, no one should be assigning me a task at 8 20 in the evening.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
9:30
SPEAKER_00: That's never a good sign.
9:31
SPEAKER_00: Whoever that is.
9:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, I bought a new piece of artwork.
9:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, I love it.
9:36
SPEAKER_01: I saw it for the first time today.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: Her name is Charlotte.
9:39
SPEAKER_00: She's a beauty.
9:41
SPEAKER_00: How do we describe her?
9:42
SPEAKER_00: Describe her, Elizabeth.
9:43
SPEAKER_00: I shall try to describe and then you can correct me.
9:45
SPEAKER_00: We're also staring at her.
9:46
SPEAKER_00: So if our voices are distant, it's because we're looking at staring at her.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: She's in the room with us as we speak.
9:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: Charlotte is a pirate-looking lass with a nice, what do you call it?
9:56
SPEAKER_01: Try, what do you call that hat?
10:00
SPEAKER_01: A captain hook looking hat.
10:02
SPEAKER_01: No, there's a word for it.
10:03
SPEAKER_01: A three-point hat.
10:04
SPEAKER_01: Three-point hat.
10:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
10:05
SPEAKER_01: Okay, we'll we'll call that.
10:06
SPEAKER_01: So you've got three-point.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's what it's called, a three-point hat.
10:08
SPEAKER_00: No, I think you're right.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: I think you're right.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: I thought it was called like a try something, but you're right.
10:12
SPEAKER_01: I think don't get fancy.
10:13
SPEAKER_01: Okay, all right, all right.
10:14
SPEAKER_01: Tricolore.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: Tricolore hat.
10:16
SPEAKER_01: With feathers.
10:17
SPEAKER_01: Um and she's got blue gloves, and she's got like She's like 18th century.
10:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 18th century, you know, very beautiful girl with dark curls in her hair.
10:25
SPEAKER_01: And she's finishing what looks like kind of a last drop of her wine, like it's like held high up, and she's just enjoying it.
10:32
SPEAKER_01: Chugging it.
10:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
10:33
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's all kind of dark and like just beautiful, mysterious looking.
10:37
SPEAKER_01: And we call her Charlotte.
10:38
SPEAKER_00: She's got a little beauty mark on her cheek, like thick ringlets, yeah, gloved hands.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: Sitting in like it looks like kind of like a carriage, like something cozy with like pillows all around her, and just like downing a glass of wine.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: Love it.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: The the title is called Air Is Not Enough.
10:55
SPEAKER_01: And it's not.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: It's not wine is a requirement.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: I do have I got I got her off Etsy, shipped from England.
11:03
SPEAKER_00: I have a little bit of feedback.
11:05
SPEAKER_01: The one thing I noticed right away, and I knew it was probably a thorn on Megan's side.
11:10
SPEAKER_01: I was like, I love it so much, but there's like a fake frame on it.
11:15
SPEAKER_01: It's like a print.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: It's a printed frame.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: It's canvas.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: Canvas.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: It's printed canvas.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: And when I purchased it on Etsy, it looked like there was a thick, tacky wooden frame, which is totally my style.
11:28
SPEAKER_00: I wanted a tacky wooden frame.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: Give me a big wooden frame around a picture, and I'm all for it.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: And the frame is printed onto the picture.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: I can't even explain it.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: It's like I think you need to post a picture of it.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: I'll post a picture, but the picture, I swear, when you look at it, it will look like it's a frame.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: And you will be in the shoes that I was in when I looked at the picture on Etsy, like that's a winner.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, and it was expensive.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't just the price of just like a regular It wasn't an Ikea picture.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: Right.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I probably spent$200 in shipping.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: Like true, true.
12:03
SPEAKER_01: But you know, I mean, we mentioned that she has a King Henry Henry VIII painting downstairs, and that is like triple the size and half the page.
12:10
SPEAKER_01: I'm all about my tacky portraits.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: They're not tacky, they're beautiful.
12:14
SPEAKER_01: This one does need a frame, though, I will say you can still stick that in a frame.
12:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: Charlotte deserves a frame.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: We are starting off with a bang.
12:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: Or a whoosh.
12:25
SPEAKER_01: Rather.
12:27
SPEAKER_01: That's stupid.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: No, this is awesome.
12:29
SPEAKER_01: So we were discussing who we wanted as our first episode, because again, we like talked about our whole lineup for the whole season.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, and we realized we started the last two seasons, both with Queens.
12:40
SPEAKER_01: We had Marie Antoinette kicking off season one.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, we had Catherine Howard kicking off season two, and now we thought it would be appropriate for a king.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: We've had a lot of women executions.
12:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:51
SPEAKER_01: I think more than I thought we were going to have.
12:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh, totally.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, women are amazing and they do terrible things that they're trying to do.
12:59
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: But now is the time to talk about a man.
13:03
SPEAKER_01: We'll bring a man into the picture.
13:05
SPEAKER_01: But not just any man.
13:07
SPEAKER_01: He's actually the first and only King of England to be executed.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: And the first king in general to be executed.
13:15
SPEAKER_01: So.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: Slow clap.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: Slow clap.
13:17
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we're doing it.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: Drum roll.
13:19
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna do King Charles I of England.
13:23
SPEAKER_01: Woop whoop, whoop whoop.
13:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, if you don't know who that is or are somewhat unfamiliar, obviously that's the point of this episode.
13:29
SPEAKER_01: But just to give you some historical con context, he actually is the son of James I, who James I is the son of uh Mary Queen of Scots.
13:40
SPEAKER_01: If you are unfamiliar with a Mary Queen of Scots, please refer to episode 13 of season one.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: Wow, that was a good pitch.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
13:49
SPEAKER_00: Also educate yourself.
13:51
SPEAKER_01: Also educate yourself, people.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: Um but but yes, no, in all seriousness, he was the only king of England to be executed.
13:57
SPEAKER_01: We'll get into why, but it involves a civil war, it involves multiple fallouts with parliament, um, and he was uh actually the only king to cause the country to become a republic for the first and only time.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: So we'll kind of get into what all that means.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: Um Megan will cover some of the early life and we'll go from there.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: Um but again, if you are a hardcore executionata, you kind of already know a little bit about Mary Queen of Scots, James I.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: So this is kind of again a continuation for you.
14:25
SPEAKER_01: But if you're new to the podcast, hey, sit back, relax, enjoy some history.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: So I like to visually think of where we're at in the family tree here.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: And the timeline of history.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: And I kind of center all of that around the tutors.
14:41
SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's just a very selfish theme because that's what I like.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: But we are talking about the early 1600s.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: Right.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: To put things into perspective, Queen Elizabeth I died in 1603.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: Right.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: So right at the beginning of the century.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: Our buddy Charles I, he was born November 19th, 1600.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: Right.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: Just three years before Elizabeth I died.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
15:05
SPEAKER_00: He's born in Scotland.
15:07
SPEAKER_00: Kind of funny.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: He, I mean, because he is Scottish, he grew up with a Scottish accent.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: Right.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: He had a stammer, a strong one.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: A strong stammer.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: He had two older siblings.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: He had a brother and a sister.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, and they he was close to both of them.
15:23
SPEAKER_00: His father became king of Great Britain, Great Britain being Scotland, England, and Ireland.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: Ireland, yeah.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: In 1603, once Elizabeth I died.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: They actually left Charles I back in Scotland because they thought he was too sick to even travel and be able to survive the trip, right?
15:41
SPEAKER_01: And he's kind of like the runt of the family, right?
15:44
SPEAKER_01: He already has his older brother, Henry, who is groomed to be the king and he's healthy and strong, so he accompanies um James I to London when he's crowned, and they're like, Charles, just hang out in the country style.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: Stay here, Chuck.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: He's small, he's shy, um, he's got that stammer, like I mentioned, and he's very sick.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: This is very much like a Henry VIII type of story, I feel like, because his older brother actually, Henry who was Henry, you know, limit limitation of names in this period.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: Henry was intended to follow his father's footsteps and be crowned king.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: Henry dies in 1612 from, I believe, typhoid fever.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: I think so, yeah.
16:28
SPEAKER_00: Um and at this point, obviously his older sister cannot be a monarch.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: Even though we just had Elizabeth I.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:38
SPEAKER_00: And nor Mary Queen of Scots, nor Elizabeth I.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: Right.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: They just marry her off and she goes to Bohemia.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: She's married off and it all kind of falls down on Charles I.
16:50
SPEAKER_00: He becomes king and on March 25th, 1625, after his father dies.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: He inherited his father's very strong belief of what we called the divine right of kings.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: And this is going to be the reason I'm bringing this up, is I feel like this is very much a center point of this entire story.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: And like keep this with you.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: This belief system was that the king of England or the king of Great Britain is intended by God to rule.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: God chose the king.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: The king can make laws, the king can oppose laws, the king can do whatever he wants because he is at the equal power of God.
17:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: And that's very much the same belief that Henry VIII started.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: Like Henry VIII kind of started this whole tradition, and I feel like it carried down throughout these different generations.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, but Charles I was a very strong believer of this.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: So keep this in mind, kind of, I want to call it like a level of arrogance, really, of where he where he felt like his establishment was, that he was just really above everybody else.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: Right.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, he's very religious, he's a Protestant, and from previous episodes, we always kind of talk about England is a very divided country.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:04
SPEAKER_00: All of England during this period of time, starting with King Henry VIII, is about Protestants versus the Catholics.
18:10
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
18:10
SPEAKER_00: And Charles I is Protestant.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: He has a huge distrust in the House of Commons because they are primarily a lot of Puritans in there who are also Protestants.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: And again, he like he thinks that he's just on the same level of God.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: And um ver from the very beginning, as soon as he gets crowned as king, there is some tension between him and the parliament, which is the government of England.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: And I think him kind of growing up, the way he did probably contributed to his arrogance because again, he was this like slight, shy, stammering little boy, and then all of a sudden he's the heir, and then all of a sudden he's the king, and he's always been taught like you have a divine right to rule.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: So he just took that and ran with it.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: So again, as soon as 1625 rolls around, um, and he kind of you know becomes king, he immediately befriends um the Duke of Buckingham.
19:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I believe his like original name was George uh Vila Vila.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: Villiers someone correct us, please help us.
19:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:15
SPEAKER_01: You guys know our pronunciation.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: Villiers.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: Villiers.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is what they're talking about with the accent.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
19:22
SPEAKER_00: In the reviews.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: They have a hard accent.
19:25
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's what they mean.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: I think they mean we sound like American Valley girls.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: What?
19:32
SPEAKER_00: No.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
19:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay, sorry, continue.
19:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, but maybe it is also our shitty accent when we try to pronounce name.
19:41
SPEAKER_01: George Villier.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna call him Villiers.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: Buckingham.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna call him Duke of Buckingham.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: So right away he befriends this man, the Duke of Buckingham, um, who he immediately like proclaims us his favorite.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: He makes him an earl.
19:54
SPEAKER_01: And there was even some talk that there might be a little homosexuality in between them.
19:58
SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
19:59
SPEAKER_01: A little bit of uh Louis XVI action there.
20:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, but either way, he Oh my god, we're such an artist.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: As I shimmy my shoulders, like Louis the XVI.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: Elizabeth she tends to shimmy.
20:11
SPEAKER_01: I do shimmy.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, but so anyway, he so he befriends him, he becomes his closest uh kind of confidant and counselor in court.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: Um and so right away the Duke of Buckingham says, Okay, the first thing you need to do as king is obviously marry, because you need to start producing heirs, as we've learned through many of our episodes.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: You gotta you gotta get married, you gotta start producing your heirs and your spares.
20:33
SPEAKER_01: So he originally tries to marry him off to a Spanish princess, Maria Anna.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, but because they both visited Spain and they were both so arrogant and pompous and bad at negotiating anything because they think they're so amazing, uh, this didn't work out.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: Spain was like, Who the F do you think you are?
20:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, get out of here.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: Like, you can't marry Buckingham messed that up for that.
20:55
SPEAKER_01: He did.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: He was a little shithead.
20:57
SPEAKER_01: A little shithead.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: They didn't want anything to do with him.
20:59
SPEAKER_01: So they were like, Alright, he uh keep moving on, you're not gonna marry Maria Anna.
21:04
SPEAKER_01: So he goes and finds another Maria.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: Um Buckingham sets him up with there's a lot of Maria's Mary's and you know Henri's Henries, Elizabeth's, you just swap them all out.
21:13
SPEAKER_01: But he ends up marrying Henrietta Maria of France.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: Um so they originally get married.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: Originally he's very attracted to her and charmed by her.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, but within a few weeks they start to really fall apart.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: Their marriage is declining.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: Uh, she thinks he's kind of like cold and aloof, which he is, and he thinks she's kind of a spoiled brat who's from a Catholic faith and expects a certain amount of, I guess, respect for her position.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: So they, after six weeks, are kind of like, alright, we're only together, you know, in name.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: We're only together, you know, as a marriage, but we're not like gonna spend time together, or like, let's just call it what it is.
21:49
SPEAKER_01: So his next conquest after that, Buckingham, kind of gets in his ear and says, You know what?
21:54
SPEAKER_01: As a king, you should assert war.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: You should go to war because that's what kings do and they need to assert their power.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: And so Charles I, who's aloof and kind of removed from common society, is like, great, let's start a war.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: So he starts a war with Spain because what else is there to do?
22:09
SPEAKER_01: Maybe he was still a little mad at Maria Anna, I don't know, but he just decided, yep, great job, let's go to war with Spain.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: So 1625, which is still again the first year that he's king, um, he goes to Parliament.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: He says, Yo, I'm the new king, Buckingham's at my side, let's go ahead and, you know, start a war with Spain.
22:26
SPEAKER_01: So, what does he need from Parliament?
22:28
SPEAKER_01: He needs money, he needs funds, right?
22:30
SPEAKER_01: And so they immediately are like, you know, we kind of have a distrust for this Buckingham guy.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, he wasn't well liked in Spain, and so they just immediately were like, No, you're a new king, we're not gonna give you the funds to immediately start a war.
22:43
SPEAKER_01: But again, he so fiercely believed his divine right to rule, his divine right of kings, that he kind of looked at it as a personal insult.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: So he looked at Parliament like, whoa, you can't deny me this, you can't deny me my wishes.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: So what does he do?
22:56
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, you dissolve the parliament after that.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: You say, Okay, thanks, no, thanks, you're not employed anymore.
23:02
SPEAKER_01: Goodbye.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: But again, because he thought that he was above all, yeah, no one could tell him about it.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's like, No, if you're not telling me what I want, I'm better than you.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: Goodbye.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: So this starts the first of a few different run-ins with Parliament because within a year he decides, you know what, they need to be reinstated.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: I can't just make decisions alone.
23:27
SPEAKER_01: I need them for money, I you know, I need them for a multitude of reasons.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: So he immediately after a year says, okay, you had your time out, you're back in progress.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: But then, as soon as they convened again, they all got together and they decided, hey, this Buckingham guy is not the guy we want next to the king.
23:44
SPEAKER_01: Let's impeach him for treason.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: And so, what does Charles I do again?
23:49
SPEAKER_01: Bye.
23:51
SPEAKER_01: He's like, uh, we're gonna dissolve you again.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: In case you didn't learn your learn your lesson the first time, I can just tell you goodbye whenever.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: Can I just say really quick, dissolve is such a nice um word?
24:03
SPEAKER_00: I almost said aneurysm.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: It's not uh what's it called?
24:06
SPEAKER_00: A euphemism in my mind.
24:08
SPEAKER_00: Dissolve is such a nice euphemism for just getting rid of something.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: That department was dissolved.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: Like uh, we are um what do they call it in corporations?
24:21
SPEAKER_01: Dissolved is a good word.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: Reduced.
24:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: This this department has been reduced.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: This department is redundant, non-existent.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: You you are being outsourced.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: I just we're not picking up your options, we're at a new direction.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: I always think of it in like a corporate setting.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, whenever these things happen, whether it's like an execution, it's like they've been terminated.
24:45
SPEAKER_00: This person is no longer with the company.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: Or when it's something like this and they're dissolving parliament, your role has been reduced.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: You're furloughed.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: You're I just we've had a lot of that in the past couple years.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: A lot of COVID terms.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: Again, I'm sorry, I we have to laugh about it on an extent.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: But I feel like that when I hear these stories, like I feel about these poor men in parliament, like they lost their jobs.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Every time the king decided to be like, never mind, I'm done.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: And if you're a career politician, like what else do you do with your time?
25:17
SPEAKER_01: You're not a farmer, you're not a merchant, you're not a hang out of sport, I guess.
25:22
SPEAKER_01: But who knows what you do.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: It was very much his way or no way.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, so finally, again, he dissolves them for the second time.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then he decides, you know what, I need to go ahead and I need to um move forward with another war because that war in Spain never quite stuck.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: And he promotes Buckingham to Lord High Admiral in a war with France.
25:44
SPEAKER_01: So at this point, the French are kind of fighting amongst themselves.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: It's like the French Protestant rebels versus the French Catholics, which as we said is still um a main issue in uh England as well, is Catholics versus Protestants always.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: But this was a dismal failure, this war.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: So when this war is taking place, um Parliament is again getting together again for a third time during the reign, and they decide to implement a few changes.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: So Charles I is trying to raise money, and he's not always doing it in the best of ways.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: He is imposing what they call a forced loan.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: Really, it's just raising taxes through the roof, and it's very illegal what he's doing.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: Right.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: He's forcing people to contribute money towards all of his causes.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: And if they do not contribute money, he's imprisoning them.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: Right.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: I get a very like Robin Hood violence.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: Put them all in jail if they're not going to pay their taxes.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Parliament was not okay with how much he was levying the um tax, the duties, like the international duties that he was imposing, the taxes he was imposing on his own subjects, and these new laws he was putting in place.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: He actually even arrested 770 knights who all refused to pay this loan, the quote unquote loan, air quotes, this loan.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: And you're like, what did I loan you?
27:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm getting this money back in somehow?
27:07
SPEAKER_00: Like, what where is this being invested?
27:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, and he just kind of goes rogue at this point because he's money hungry, he's war hungry, and he needs to fund his wars, and the only ways to fund them is by taxing duties, raising prices, all things that are a big no-no.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: Parliament is there to protect the people also and make sure like the king is in check.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: Talk about checks and balances.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: That's the whole point.
27:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Charles is Chuck is like off the rocker at this point.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: The Parliament comes up with a document called Petition of Rights.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: This was implemented in June 1628.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: There were four main points of the petition of rights.
27:48
SPEAKER_00: It very much kind of like levied off of um the Magna Carta.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: Right, very similar.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: But it meant no taxes without consent.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: The king has to get approval for what he's taxing people on.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: He can't just be like tax, tax, shopping.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: He can't be uh Prince John, the phony king of England.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: Counting his coins in the corner, right?
28:08
SPEAKER_00: This little snake.
28:09
SPEAKER_00: Um imprison, no imprisonment without cause.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh again, I'm picturing all the little like critters with their china balls on their ankles.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
28:22
SPEAKER_00: You and I are on the same level.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: It might just be us.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: It has its ups and downs.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the rooster and the badger and they're crying.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: God, if you haven't seen this movie, please go.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: That's your homework.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: You get like get on your Disney Plus and you watch uh the 1970s.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: People should see it.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: It's wonderful.
28:39
SPEAKER_00: You know?
28:39
SPEAKER_00: So no no imprisonment without cause, no quartering soldiers on subjects.
28:45
SPEAKER_00: You can't just send out your troops on people and like have uh I'm just picturing like the rhinos, like the big rhinos just like badgering all the subjects and being jerks.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: Fun fact with that, when the the rhinos are like like hammering over everyone in Robin Hood?
29:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it they play the USC fight song.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Because we're so dominant at football.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: Okay, continue.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: The last piece, okay, so no taxes without consent, no imprisonment, no courting soldiers, and then the last part is no martial law in peacetime.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Which Charles was very much all about no martial martial law during peacetime.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: So um Parliament puts these laws into place.
29:29
SPEAKER_00: Chuck signs it, accepts it, is like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:32
SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: Basically ignores it because again, he thinks that the king can say he can oppose any law he wants.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: So he signs it willy-nilly and just like, eh, okay, but I'm still gonna do what I want to do.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: Right.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, at this point, this is the third time that parliament has regrouped, and uh third time he's gonna dissolve them.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: Terminate, done.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, I don't we are not on the same terms, we disagree, right?
29:59
SPEAKER_00: You're no longer needed.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: Have a nice day.
30:02
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
30:02
SPEAKER_01: And simultaneously, what happens um after the this French war that turns out to be a colossal failure?
30:10
SPEAKER_01: Um his best friend, the Duke of Buckingham, who we hate, who we hate.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: Everyone hates.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: Everyone hates us.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: Except for yeah, except for Charles I, who loves him.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: Um I was referring to Black Betty when you just kept calling her a prostitute, and I'm just calling this guy a homosexual over and over.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: We don't we don't know.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: We don't know the facts, we're just speculating.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: But anyway, uh, but poor Duke of Buckingham is now assassinated.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: He gets assassinated by an army officer.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, so he was stabbed to death with a dagger.
30:39
SPEAKER_01: This guy came, he was just a a lone um predator, I guess you call him.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: Alone murderer, but assassin.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: Assassin, that's a better word.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: Would I call him a predator?
30:51
SPEAKER_01: He would have also been a predator.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh but Charles is very upset because uh he thinks like this might be some sort of grander plot, this might be some sort of big thing against me and the Duke of Buckingham, and that's again around the same time where he dissolves Parliament for the third time.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: So now he's dissolved Parliament three times, and then he doesn't reinstate Parliament for 11 years.
31:14
SPEAKER_01: So this is the biggest like period of time that they go without a parliament.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: But in that time, it's actually kind of a nice period of time for Charles.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: So it's the one time in his life where people can say that he's a kind of good king.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: So he modernizes the country a little bit, um, he creates a postal service, there's new roads.
31:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh excited for the postal service.
31:37
SPEAKER_01: And roads.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: You know, you know, Amazon?
31:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: I think it's a good thing.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: It's a precursor to Amazon.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: But um so he creates new roads, he addresses unemployment, he really becomes a big patron of the arts uh and architecture.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: And fun fact here, too, is he was kind of the first one to embrace Roman architecture in England.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: So if you go to England now and you see some of the big like parliament buildings, and you will, yeah, honestly, take pictures.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh the you know, when you see like Roman columns and things, that was a lot of his influence.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: He was like, I want to, you know, embody the glory days of Rome and blah blah blah.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: So so the Roman architecture kind of creeps into uh you know the English art and he re like sparks his marriage.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: So his marriage is kind of on the up and up.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: Um and so once uh his friend Duke of Buckingham dies, you know, and he's kind of experiencing all this time alone without the parliament, he really reunites with um Henrietta.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: And so they become very, very close to the point where they're kind of in love again.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Like it's not just like, oh, they're maybe you know, Henry and Catherine of Aragon where they like respect each other and have been together.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: They kind of genuinely love each other and they, you know, generally have this good relationship.
32:48
SPEAKER_01: So that was going all really well.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: But soon, because it's been 11 years and things are going a little too well, and people never like when things are too nice, um, the public started to resent his extravagance a little bit.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: And to be clear, he wasn't as extravagant as, say, like his devaucherous father.
33:05
SPEAKER_01: Like people really accused James I of like spending too much money on women and parties and like too, you know, indulgent things.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: And you know, with Charles I, he really just appreciated art and wanted to spend a lot on like new paintings in his palaces and stuff.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: He loved art.
33:19
SPEAKER_00: That was a really big piece of it.
33:20
SPEAKER_00: He was a connoisseur.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was an art connoisseur, like a a patron of art.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, I think there was something like 1400 different, very prominent pieces that he's collected.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, a lot of them still in existence today that they had still kept that they have still kept in the museums and the different palaces.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: But he really thrived on art and culture.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: And and when you're thinking of Charles the First, it's 1600s, right?
33:52
SPEAKER_00: So he's very much like the pointed shoes and the tights and the big curls, kind of like Charlotte over there.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: Kind of a little bit.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: Like I know she's a century later, but like I feel like there was Yeah, like he's very Captain Hook-esque.
34:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a hook.
34:07
SPEAKER_01: Minus the hook.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: Minus the hook.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: Well, we didn't know, we didn't read about his hands.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: Perhaps a hook.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: He probably had nice fingernails.
34:15
unknown: Probably.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: So um, so again, so people kind of viewed a lot of these things as arrogance, but we have to remember too that he wasn't the one that was sent to London as a kid to be groomed as a king.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: He was frolicking around in the countryside and always aloof and always better than people.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: And so he never really grew up with the mentality of thinking about the common man.
34:38
SPEAKER_01: He just grew up like, oh, you're you have this divine right to rule, your older brother has died, you're now the king.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: So he was like, okay.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: Like he was always kind of floating through life, like I'm better than everyone.
34:50
SPEAKER_00: Is I'm better.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: So so people started to really see all of his kind of patron of the arts and everything, patronage of the arts, as really just being arrogant and too powerful.
35:02
SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, it didn't it didn't take long for something to really kind of break.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: So the last straw was that Charles really wanted to restore the monasteries.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: And if you remember back to um King Henry the Eighth days, when King Henry the Eighth went through and they like pillaged the monasteries and they tore them all down and they got rid of all the Catholics like symbols and everything.
35:23
SPEAKER_01: Um Charles I wants to kind of come back and restore them, which is interesting because he doesn't identify as a Catholic, right?
35:29
SPEAKER_01: His wife does.
35:30
SPEAKER_01: And so people were thinking, oh, maybe the wife has too much influence.
35:34
SPEAKER_01: Like, why is he trying to go back and restore these monasteries?
35:36
SPEAKER_01: Like she's Catholic.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: Right.
35:38
SPEAKER_01: He's Protestant.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: And maybe for him it was simply because of the art, simply because of the history, like who knows what his reason was.
35:45
SPEAKER_01: He didn't come out and say that he supported Catholicism in any way.
35:48
SPEAKER_01: But because of this, riots broke out, and they were like, okay, he's papist, he's listening to his uh, you know, his wife who's too Catholic, like, we can't stand for this.
35:58
SPEAKER_01: So eventually, Parliament has to kind of come back again in 1640, again after an 11-year drought, um, because he needs money uh against a war against the Scottish rebels.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: He's like a teenager, like rebels and comes back for money.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: And then rebels, like, but could I have more money?
36:16
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: I kind of blew everything up.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: Could I have more money?
36:19
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: He's always only reconvening Parliament because he needs money.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: He needs the funds.
36:26
SPEAKER_01: So as soon as the Scottish rebels come after him because of his uh, you know, trying to resurrect the monastery thing, uh, he's like, Okay, Parliament, you're back.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: And guess what?
36:35
SPEAKER_01: I need money.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: And guess what?
36:36
SPEAKER_01: They say no because they're like we're trying to teach you that you can't just bring us back to ask for money.
36:43
SPEAKER_01: So this is when your parents finally say, um, actually, you're cut off.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
36:47
SPEAKER_01: What do you think he does in response to this?
36:51
SPEAKER_01: A little predictable now.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: He dissolves a parliament for a what?
36:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, they're terminated, they're done?
36:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're outsourced.
36:59
SPEAKER_00: They're outsourced.
37:01
SPEAKER_00: Or that, then they're done that.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so he no longer needs a parliament again.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not sure if it was this one or the last one, but at some point they called it the short parliament.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: The short parliament because it was barely not even in service before it gets liquidated.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh they're the country once again, very familiar to England.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: They are divided, lo and behold.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: Shocking.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: Not so much, well, it is Protestant versus Catholicism, but really what what it is against is the Royalists versus So the Royalists are whoever supports the King.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: Right.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: The Royalists versus what they called the parliamentarians.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: Right, which obviously support the parliament.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: Love that word.
37:44
SPEAKER_00: Parliamentarian.
37:45
SPEAKER_00: Parliamentarians and the royalists.
37:47
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: The key the everyone supported the king and everyone supported the parliament, who was kind of like the level-headed ones.
37:53
SPEAKER_00: Quite basically the elites versus like the common folk.
37:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're like, well, just go to war and spend money, and the parliament being like, well, no, we have laws, we can't just tax everyone, and we need to be reasonable about this.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, they had some nicknames for each other.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: They did.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: The parliament parliamentarians called the royalists the cavaliers.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: Right.
38:14
SPEAKER_01: And that actually comes from um the Spanish word caballero, which means like cowboy, and it's because a lot of their army like rode on horseback.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: But they wanted it to be kind of a knock on them, like you guys are foreign, you guys kind of support Catholic beliefs, like you guys don't really belong to original England and like our new beliefs.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: Um Cavaliers was actually, it's funny.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: It sounds cool.
38:36
SPEAKER_01: It sounds cool now, and I like the word now, and we actually still use it, I think, in like modern military, but but they call them like oh you're cavaliers.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh you're so cavalier.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: So cavalier about that.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: And then the royalists called the parliamentarians the roundheads.
38:51
SPEAKER_01: The roundheads, which their their helmets, I believe, were round, but it also stemmed creative.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: Good job, royalists.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: Good one.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think it also stemmed from like the like the they're like, oh, the shape of your head resembles like your peasants and your common and like you're you're thick headed.
39:10
SPEAKER_01: You're yeah, you're perfect.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: So I think it's funny because again, looking at these two words now, you're like, these are not disses, nor are they like insulting.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: But back in the day, it's like, oh, you're a cavalier, oh you're a round head.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, so again, royalists versus pol parliamentarians, they had their little names for each other.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: Um but in 1640, uh, this is quickly after the parliament is uh um like shut down, they come back again, they're reinstated.
39:40
SPEAKER_01: Um so they're back for what is this?
39:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, I'm already losing count.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: This is the fourth time they're back, I believe.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: Um, but by 1642, tensions start to rise again, right?
39:53
SPEAKER_01: Um and so what Charles I does is he goes in and he arrests five members of parliament, like in broad daylight, because they're kind of whispering that they want to maybe impeach the queen and so slow, like slowly strip power away from Charles in different ways.
40:08
SPEAKER_01: Um so he goes ahead, he sends his queen off to Holland for her safekeeping, and he officially says, Okay, this is it.
40:15
SPEAKER_01: Like we've already established that there's royalists, that there's parliamentarians.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: It's a civil war.
40:20
SPEAKER_01: This officially is a civil war.
40:21
SPEAKER_01: Once once they threatened his queen and you know, he had tried to uh uh arrest several several members of parliament, that was like the last thing.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: So he officially declared um the leaders of parliament traitors, and a civil war broke out in uh September of 1642.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: The civil war lasts for five years.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: 200,000 deaths are pretty sure resulted.
40:44
SPEAKER_00: When you think in perspective, that's that's a lot of people for one country.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: This isn't multiple countries involved.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: This is just England against itself.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: Just fighting on its own.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: Right.
40:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, the first two years it goes pretty well for Charles, and he's winning, and he's like, yeah, go royalists, and they're they've they've got like a big up and cavaliers, oh cavaliers, right?
41:07
SPEAKER_00: Um 1644, a man named Oliver Cromwell, who's the general for the parliament, he kind of steps in.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: Steps in and he's pretty good at what he does.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: The Scots are taking the Parliament side.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: So again, this is also Great Britain.
41:24
SPEAKER_00: This is Scotland, Ireland, and England.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: Right.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: And Scotland now joins the Parliament side, and Charles's royalist side starts really getting defeated.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, Charles is trying to negotiate, and he's taken prisoner finally because everyone just hates him.
41:40
SPEAKER_01: He just, yeah, and it's funny the way he was taken prisoner too, because it was literally, it was again in 1647, so this is five years after the Civil War started, and he's literally playing chess with a bloke, and someone just comes all the time.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so so like they just come and they seize him, and his first kind of thought is like, all right, like I knew this was probably gonna happen, but I'm the king.
42:06
SPEAKER_01: Like, what are they gonna do to me?
42:07
SPEAKER_01: You know, we're gonna figure this out.
42:09
SPEAKER_01: Let's everyone calm down.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: Like, he went obligingly, like he was very cooperative, he was very cooperative, but at the end of the day, he's such an absolute monarch and he will never give up his absolute power that he was not willing to negotiate with anyone.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: So while he thought this was just a casual, like, okay, you're arresting me, haha.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you win, sometimes we win.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: Like Peter Pan.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: But um, but so finally, like, after a couple years of him just kind of being locked up.
42:41
SPEAKER_01: A couple years, right?
42:42
SPEAKER_01: I know, isn't that funny?
42:43
SPEAKER_01: For a couple years he was just like, oh, whatever, like this will all blow over.
42:46
SPEAKER_01: He even tried to escape once, right?
42:48
SPEAKER_00: 1647.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: He was locked up in our favorite Hampton Court, which is where uh Stephanie, our historian who joined us for our last episode of um with Ambalyn.
42:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she was working at Hampton Court Palace, but that's where he was locked up 1647.
43:04
SPEAKER_00: He tried to escape and he was captured again.
43:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh not the most swift guy, I'd say.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: It's those heels.
43:10
SPEAKER_01: It's the heels and the wig, I think, that gave it away.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: He didn't do our trick of like you dress up like the laundry lady like Mr.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: Toad and try to leave.
43:17
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, so he again is in custody for two years, and finally Parliament kind of loses its patience because they're like, okay, he's not budging, he's not compromising.
43:28
SPEAKER_01: We either agree to his terms, because that's how he like laid it all out, or we execute him.
43:34
SPEAKER_01: There's no other way because he for two years has failed to compromise, failed to talk about it, failed to negotiate.
43:40
SPEAKER_01: He's a bad team player.
43:42
SPEAKER_01: He's a really bad team player.
43:43
SPEAKER_01: If we were to do his annual review for his confidency on team player, it'd be like Terminated.
43:49
SPEAKER_01: Does not meet expectations.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: Does not meet expectations.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: December 1648, Parliament joins again.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: And what's funny is at the door, look.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Literally physically going into parliament at the door.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: There are soldiers who are picking out people of parliament saying, no, no, no, you're not welcome here and you can't come in.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: Because they're picking out the parliamentarians versus the royalists, and they only want the royalists to come in because obviously they're now voting if Charles the First should go to trial or not.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: Many were actually even arrested.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: And the small group of people who were able to actually join Parliament, they started calling them the Rump Parliament.
44:30
SPEAKER_00: There were 46 members who actually got to go in and they voted on whether Charles I should even just go to trial or not.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: It was a 26 to 46 vote.
44:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: So 56% of people said, yes, we should take him to trial.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:49
SPEAKER_00: Jeez.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: And those are of the royalists.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: They're like slowly raising their hands, like, I'm sorry.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: I don't like this guy either.
44:58
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
44:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, so so finally they send him to trial.
45:02
SPEAKER_01: Again, it's it's 1649 at this point.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: Um, and they have uh a trial where um Charles I is very much like composed.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: Again, just like we thought he would he would do, he doesn't try to negotiate, he doesn't plead his case.
45:18
SPEAKER_01: He barely speaks because in his eyes, he doesn't even recognize the authority of the people putting him on trial.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: When he first gets even brought in, first of all, like imagery.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: He's wearing like all black velvet, right?
45:31
SPEAKER_00: Bougie as shit.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: Bougie.
45:33
SPEAKER_00: He keeps his hat on, which is a respect thing, and he's like, I'm not gonna take my hat off.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: I am the highest power in here.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: Why am I gonna take my hat off for you?
45:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
45:42
SPEAKER_00: And his question is by what power am I called hither?
45:46
SPEAKER_00: Am I cold hither?
45:47
SPEAKER_00: Like, who here is higher than me?
45:50
SPEAKER_00: Like, what higher power than me, the king of England, is calling me to come in here?
45:54
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: The whole thing for him is a facade.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: He's just like, man, I'm still like in more power than any of them.
45:59
SPEAKER_00: This is all just for a joke.
46:00
SPEAKER_00: This is all just for looks and show.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: But in the end, I I've got the upper hand, and nothing's gonna happen because I I can oppose the law and I am the law and I choose the law.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: Arrogant.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: Right, totally arrogant against downfall.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
46:15
SPEAKER_01: So this is a again transcendent theme throughout his whole life.
46:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, but finally, uh, because again, he didn't plead his case, he didn't even try to defend himself, nothing.
46:23
SPEAKER_01: He was just so aloof throughout the whole trial.
46:25
SPEAKER_01: Finally, the court comes back and they say, Hey, you're a public enemy of the Commonwealth of England.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: Like you were being uh, you know, tried for treason, you're being tried for tyranny, and I believe it was murder.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: Murder.
46:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, think about the poor 200,000 people who died in the Civil War because he was throwing a little temper tantrum.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: So they finally um sentenced him to death.
46:48
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
46:49
SPEAKER_00: Trial took seven days.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, January 27th, they claimed him guilty.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: Guilty.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: And we uh saw in a documentary that he kind of gave this like smug chuckle when they gave him his verdict.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: So when they finally say, You're sentenced to death, he's kind of like Okay, we'll see how that works out for you.
47:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's real cute.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, but they take him into custody again and he goes for three days.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: Three days before his execution, he gets to see his two favorite kids.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm laughing because Elizabeth and I don't know how many kids he has.
47:25
SPEAKER_00: Elizabeth goes, No, he has four kids.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, he has five kids.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: No, maybe he's three.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: He has only four.
47:33
SPEAKER_00: Two to six children.
47:35
SPEAKER_00: I think it's five.
47:37
SPEAKER_00: If I had kids, I wouldn't know if I had two to six kids.
47:40
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
47:41
SPEAKER_00: It's a lot.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: Charles has anywhere between two to six children.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, we know there's Elizabeth and there's Henry.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: There's Henry and there's a Charles Charles II, yeah, because he becomes Charles II.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: And there's like another Jane somewhere in there.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: It's probably a Mary or maybe two Henries, for all we know.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: That's true.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: In all seriousness, don't put this in your dissertation.
48:02
SPEAKER_00: Do not quote us.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: But we do know that he sees his two favorite children, which is Henry and Elizabeth.
48:09
SPEAKER_00: Great names.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: Original, beautiful.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: We kind of said this, but he's very much a family man.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: Like he loves Henrietta, he loves his kids, he used to play with his kids all the time.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: He wasn't like that king father who just didn't know his children and would be like off and fighting in different countries.
48:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:29
SPEAKER_01: Even like Henry VIII, who just kind of like exiled his kids away from court every so often based on who was queen.
48:35
SPEAKER_01: Like, he he wasn't that king.
48:37
SPEAKER_00: He was very much like, yeah, like kind of reminds me of the Romanovs, how in that season one, one of our early episodes, we talked about how they were like a he was a family man.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: That's how Charles was too.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, young Henry and Elizabeth, they're just little kids at this point, and they come and they see him, and Elizabeth is hysterical and she's crying, and they're saying bye to their dad, like right before his execution, and he's telling them, like, oh, you're gonna forget this one day, like you're gonna move on from this.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
49:05
SPEAKER_00: Or have to see a therapist when you're 12.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: Talk about PTSD, but it's fine.
49:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, that night before his execution, he's praying a lot, he's putting his affairs in order, he's burning a lot of papers.
49:18
SPEAKER_00: I read that, like, yeah, he's like trying to like, you know, clean up.
49:23
SPEAKER_01: He's like, I only have until 5 a.m.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: to burn 300 papers.
49:26
SPEAKER_01: Hold on, hold on.
49:28
SPEAKER_00: Just cleaning up, doing some housekeeping.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: He wakes up at sunrise, he opens the curtains, he goes, I have great work to do today.
49:37
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, big, big great work.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I have to do this lady.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, I mean, work is hmm.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: What kind of work are you doing all this?
49:45
SPEAKER_00: It's January 30th, and it's very cold in England.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: He intentionally asked to wear at least two shirts.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: Right.
49:54
SPEAKER_00: Because it's cold, and he doesn't want the people to think that he's shivering because he's afraid.
49:59
SPEAKER_00: Right.
50:00
SPEAKER_00: He wants to look brave and warm.
50:03
SPEAKER_00: I like that little like I I like when people are very composed.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: Well, like intentional.
50:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, intentional and they like premeditate everything that's going to happen.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: Like Catherine Howard practices on her block a bunch of.
50:17
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
50:18
SPEAKER_00: She practices on the block.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: Like Charles is thinking of every little step, but like, well, I need I don't want to look like I'm I'm shaking, so I need this and that, and right.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: I feel like that that I mean it's a nice touch.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you're up all night, like think about those things.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: True.
50:33
SPEAKER_01: I also saw a documentary that said he had in his pocket an orange that was full of cloves, I guess, because he didn't want to appear faint and he didn't want to pass out at any point, so he would take little sniffs of this orange clove thing to kind of like revive him.
50:47
SPEAKER_01: So between the shirts and the orange clove situation, he was really trying to look very composed and again, like not like he was gonna freak out at any point.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: At 2 p.m., he was led through the hall.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: Kind of late for an execution, like a late afternoon.
51:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we've always talked about early morning execution.
51:03
SPEAKER_01: So 8 a.m., 9 a.m.
51:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
51:06
SPEAKER_01: He got four hours of sleep and he had his executions at 2 p.m.
51:08
SPEAKER_00: He's taking a nap in the middle of the day.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: Done a lot.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, he's led through the hall.
51:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, he very much like hid any reservation.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: He was brave, he looked composed, all that good stuff that we want to hear in a strong execution story.
51:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
51:23
SPEAKER_00: He was not peeing himself or faking or anything like that.
51:27
SPEAKER_00: Good for him.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, I love this.
51:29
SPEAKER_00: They couldn't find an executioner who was willingly going to execute a king and show his face.
51:35
SPEAKER_00: This is the f okay, put yourself, it is 1649.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: It is the first time in history in England that they have killed their own king.
51:44
SPEAKER_00: They have executed their own king.
51:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
51:47
SPEAKER_00: And every executioner is like, whoa, I don't want that on my resume.
51:50
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no, no.
51:52
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna be the first one here.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: What if this is some bad juju?
51:55
SPEAKER_00: Someone's gonna come after me, the next king is gonna be mad, it's his son, like I don't want this on my guy calling in, you know, divine rider rulers type of thing.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: We don't know who the executioner was to this day.
52:09
SPEAKER_00: What we do know is whoever they found wore a sailor outfit.
52:13
SPEAKER_00: Discreet.
52:14
SPEAKER_00: Perfect, fish nets over his head.
52:18
SPEAKER_01: Right, so you couldn't see it's almost like with uh, you know, robbers these days put like nylons on their face so it distorts status.
52:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
52:26
SPEAKER_00: And he even wore a fake beard and a wig to hide his identity, like really going over and beyond.
52:32
SPEAKER_01: In a modern documentary, this would be like the silhouette in the corner with the like gargled voice.
52:38
SPEAKER_00: Famous words.
52:39
SPEAKER_00: I go from a corruptible to an incorruptible crown where no disturbance can be in the world.
52:47
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, I like that.
52:48
SPEAKER_00: I love this.
52:48
SPEAKER_00: He asked the executioner if his hair was any trouble because he has long locks.
52:52
SPEAKER_00: He has like long, like what do you call it?
52:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh voluminous hair ringlets of hair.
53:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:01
SPEAKER_00: And I love this very much reminds me of Anne Boleyn when she was so nervous too.
53:06
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, is my cap in the way?
53:07
SPEAKER_00: Like, okay, you good?
53:08
SPEAKER_00: Like with her tiny.
53:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like you get worried about.
53:11
SPEAKER_00: I think like in that moment, you're kind of worrying about like what can go wrong.
53:15
SPEAKER_00: Like, maybe this hair is gonna get in the way and it's gonna like stop the blow a little bit.
53:20
SPEAKER_00: So cause debotched execution.
53:22
SPEAKER_00: And surprisingly, the executioner goes, Yeah, it is in the way, let's fix it.
53:26
SPEAKER_00: How much hair he had.
53:28
SPEAKER_00: They spend some time, they put a nightcap on him.
53:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
53:31
SPEAKER_00: The executioner helps tuck it up, his all his hair into the nightcap.
53:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm still looking at this because I'm like doing it with my own hair.
53:37
SPEAKER_00: Right.
53:38
SPEAKER_00: They he helps him tuck his hair into the nightcap and they get all good, and like, eh, there's something creepy about that.
53:45
SPEAKER_00: Like, they just want everything to be right, so nothing goes amiss.
53:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's almost like you're stalling for time a little bit, but it's and you know, and it's also just making sure, again, this isn't botched in any way, this is gonna be just fine.
53:58
SPEAKER_01: So I'm sure every tiny detail you're like, okay, is the nightcap's in the way?
54:01
SPEAKER_01: Is my hair in the way?
54:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, are we facing the right way?
54:04
SPEAKER_01: Did I say everything I needed to say?
54:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, these are your last few moments on earth.
54:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you just want everything to go right.
54:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, there's also a huge crowd, and everything that I read said that his speech was pretty much like he had a big, like, not a big speech, he had a short s a short speech, but it was pretty much lost in the crowd because it was such a big crowd, and it was so cold, and like everyone's just kind of there shivering.
54:25
SPEAKER_00: It's the end of January in England.
54:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, he then tells the executioner, I would like to say a short prayer kind of to himself.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: He's like, I'll let you know when I'm ready, I'll spread my arms out.
54:35
SPEAKER_00: So he says a short prayer.
54:36
SPEAKER_00: We don't know what that is.
54:37
SPEAKER_00: He kind of mumbled it to himself and spreads his arms out in a cross ready type way.
54:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, signals he's ready.
54:45
SPEAKER_00: One blow, clean cut, no Mary Queen of Scots situation.
54:51
SPEAKER_00: Not hereditary in that way, which was his grandmother.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, and that that's the end of Charles I.
54:59
SPEAKER_00: Head goes in the basket.
55:00
SPEAKER_01: The killing of a king.
55:02
SPEAKER_01: Killing of a king.
55:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, he was buried in St.
55:05
SPEAKER_01: George Chapel.
55:06
SPEAKER_01: I believe he's still there to this day.
55:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if we confirmed that.
55:09
SPEAKER_01: We can take a look at that for next year.
55:11
SPEAKER_01: I have one note that says St.
55:12
SPEAKER_01: George Chapel buried.
55:14
SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
55:14
SPEAKER_01: I have the exact same note that says St.
55:16
SPEAKER_01: Chapel.
55:16
SPEAKER_01: St.
55:16
SPEAKER_00: George Chapel buried.
55:18
SPEAKER_00: I think I copied your notes.
55:19
SPEAKER_00: That's why.
55:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh, geez.
55:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, but but after that, it was essentially the end of absolute monarchy.
55:27
SPEAKER_01: Because after that, uh again, like I said at the beginning, it was the first time that England declared itself a republic, and it stayed that way for several years.
55:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, it wasn't until his son, Chuck, uh, Charles I's son, Charles II, Chuck, Chuck, number two, uh, came up into the world and he he was the new king of England.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, but again, it wasn't an absolute monarchy.
55:51
SPEAKER_01: They had checks and balances in place where it wasn't just the king is able to dictate all the rules because they saw how that went wrong.
55:58
SPEAKER_01: So it forever kind of changed the face of the monarchy.
56:01
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but we thought this one was a good one to start with.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, first king ever to be executed before Louis the Sixteenth, um, and the only king of England.
56:11
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56:18
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56:18
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56:22
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56:24
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56:24
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56:27
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56:28
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56:34
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56:35
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56:37
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56:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, Elizabeth, we're rambling.
56:45
SPEAKER_01: Do you have any final words?
56:46
SPEAKER_01: Not today.