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Who Should be President? Trump vs Kamala: The Final Showdown! w/ Jemele Hill & Tim Scott · Earn Your Leisure

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Speaker 3: To have as a reference point that they've never like,
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Speaker 3: if they've never got in or if they're still trying
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Speaker 3: to figure out like this investing game. So put together
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Speaker 3: some ten and ten commandments for investors to ten investing
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Speaker 3: commandments that I think can be a good reference point
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Speaker 3: for people to always think back to So one rule
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Speaker 3: number one is to buy low and sell high, vitally important.
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Speaker 3: Most people do the exact opposite, they buy high and
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Speaker 3: sell low. You got to have patience. You never buy
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Speaker 3: it highs. We talk about this all the time. Wait
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Speaker 3: for pullbacks and if you're selling it, sell after you've
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Speaker 3: made substantial gains on your investment. So buy low, sell high.
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Speaker 3: Number two is buy and hold. So yes, you know,
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Speaker 3: Ian's big on that, whether it's real estate, whether it's crypto,
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Speaker 3: whether it's stock. If you buy good assets, you have
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Speaker 3: to hold it for a long period of time. The
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Speaker 3: short flip is going to be quick money, but the
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Speaker 3: real wealth is in buying and holding.
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Speaker 4: That's ftally important. Diversification thou shall diversify.
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Speaker 3: Now, some people say, you know, diversification is for people
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Speaker 3: that's not well at versed. Well, when I say the diversification,
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Speaker 3: I'm not just talking about just in stock. I'm talking
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Speaker 3: about just an investing period. So it's like real estate,
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Speaker 3: talk about it, crypto businesses. You can put all your
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Speaker 3: eggs in one basket. That's vitally important. To commodities, Shasi,
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Speaker 3: thou shall invest with patients. You have to have patience
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Speaker 3: because if you invest in with no patience, you're going
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Speaker 3: to get washed out. And that's done on purpose a
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Speaker 3: lot of times. Especially it happens in crypto all the time,
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Speaker 3: where the whales will wash you out. They'll drop the
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Speaker 3: price on purpose, and then you get scared, you sell
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Speaker 3: your position. So you have to have patience.
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Speaker 1: What number was that?
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Speaker 4: Number four?
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Speaker 2: That could have been number one for me, number five.
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Speaker 4: That's a good point.
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Speaker 3: Thou shall understand, would die invest in. So never invest
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Speaker 3: in anything that you don't have a good understanding in
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Speaker 3: the NFTs, Yes, exactly, if you don't understand it, stay
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Speaker 3: away from it. Warren Buffett said this twenty years ago.
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Speaker 3: Never invest at the top. Thatw shall never invest.
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Speaker 4: In the top, no matter what market it is, no
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Speaker 4: matter what you gotta wait, you gotta wait for a pull.
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Speaker 5: Their Rolex marketers in shambles, not to cut you off.
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Speaker 5: Everybody else paying fifty.
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Speaker 2: Thousand for the little Boo Bay Rolex authorized dealers only.
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Speaker 4: That's the fact.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that means, look when you see the fifth and
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Speaker 2: that's given to you fifty two.
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Speaker 4: Weeks high, look at it for a reason.
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Speaker 1: There's a reason why they show it.
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Speaker 4: This is important. Now shall reinvest profits. That's the real
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Speaker 4: way to well.
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Speaker 3: So when you're making money, it's not Okay, I invest
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Speaker 3: a thousand dollars, I'm made five hundred and I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: take that five hundred. I'm gona, boy Balenciaga, reinvest that
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Speaker 3: five hundred like because there's a thing called compound interest,
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Speaker 3: which is called one of the wonders of the world.
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Speaker 3: But that only happens if you are constantly a just
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Speaker 3: reinvesting periodically, but also reinvesting profit as well, So reinvest profit.
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Speaker 3: Number nine thou shall stay informed at all times, So
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Speaker 3: watch market Mondays every single week. Read stay informed. You
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Speaker 3: have the education is a is a ongoing journey.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't. It's not like you just This isn't college
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Speaker 4: where you just take a course.
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Speaker 3: Cradle to the grave ongoing situation. And the last one
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Speaker 3: is thou shall keep emotions in check because emotions and
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Speaker 3: investing do not go to go to go well together.
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Speaker 3: You cannot be emotional. You have to be level even
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Speaker 3: kill non emotional. There's reasons why these terms like sniper
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Speaker 3: and target are used because that's the kind of mindset
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Speaker 3: that you have to have. You gotta you gotta operate
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Speaker 3: with position, precision and not take emotion into it. So
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Speaker 3: there's a bunch of others that you could potentially incorporate,
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Speaker 3: But those are ten that I think we're being good
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Speaker 3: people that are just you know, sometimes you just need
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Speaker 3: to remind them. Like I said, just from a lot
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Speaker 3: of the questions that I'm getting, I understand that there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of people that are still new and investing,
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Speaker 3: still trying to figure it out. So win in doubt,
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Speaker 3: refer back to those commandments, and you'll have to break
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Speaker 3: up if not, if not.
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Speaker 4: Twenty five years, I want to make up.
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Speaker 1: About I thought too.
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Speaker 4: Te In is gonna fall in well for sure when
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Speaker 4: I get my Verse next week eleven.
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Speaker 5: But even the long term hold and it being even
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Speaker 5: kill in partnership, like look how long Steve and Bill
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Speaker 5: work together at Microsoft, Like all the games are in
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Speaker 5: the long term hold. When you said diversification, stocks, futures,
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Speaker 5: real estate, business, intellectual property, international exposure.
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Speaker 4: And makes life a lot sim gold. Oh gah.
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Speaker 3: And then so before we bring our steam guests on,
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Speaker 3: I do want to say this because you know, being
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Speaker 3: that you know it's this is a lifelong journey, right
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Speaker 3: And yes, so for myself, I was a financial advisor,
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Speaker 3: for twelve years before we started doing this, So.
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Speaker 5: Was this when you lived in Baltimore, Hawaiian New York.
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Speaker 4: That's so we've been doing this for six years.
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Speaker 3: So this is an eighteen year journey of trying to
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Speaker 3: help people understand finance. Den Troy was a teacher for
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Speaker 3: probably the same amount of time, so he probably an
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Speaker 3: eighteen year journey as far as on education, right, So
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Speaker 3: you've got to.
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Speaker 4: Put fifteen twenty years.
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Speaker 3: I still have to say this moment that we've kind
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Speaker 3: of poured countless hours hours on the education and the
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Speaker 3: finance side, and then you know, with Earned your Leisure
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Speaker 3: and then market Mondays. It's been millions of hours done
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Speaker 3: and we accumulated that into one, one body of work,
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Speaker 3: one project, which is our first book that we're going
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Speaker 3: to come out with. Right, So here's a deal. The
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Speaker 3: book comes out January fifteenth, and it's called You Deserve
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Speaker 3: to Be Rich. Now you can pre order the book, right,
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Speaker 3: So what can they pre order it? I'm gonna tell
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Speaker 3: them the whole thing country. But we want to do
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Speaker 3: a special incentive. So for forty eight hours during this
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Speaker 3: election cycle, for forty eight hours, we're giving you an incentive.
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Speaker 3: Anybody that pre orders the book. Keep in mind the book.
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Speaker 3: I think it costs thirty dollars or twenty seven dollars,
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Speaker 3: months ago, where it was like an hour and twenty
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Speaker 4: It's a whole.
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Speaker 3: It's a whole, like foundational training. Yes, if you pre
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Speaker 3: ordered the book in the next forty eight hours, you
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Speaker 4: Oh that's fire. And like I said, the book is
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Speaker 4: like twenty dollars.
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Speaker 3: But the point is in full transparency, we need to
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Speaker 3: it to the New York Times list. That's vitally important
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Speaker 3: and very really do I ask our community for anything,
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Speaker 3: but I would say this, if we've ever helped you
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Speaker 3: in any regards, if we ever helped you make any money,
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Speaker 3: if we've ever helped you you know, be inspired. If
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Speaker 3: Because if we make it to the New York Times,
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Speaker 3: that opens up opportunities for other people.
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Speaker 4: It's a space that you don't see a lot of
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Speaker 4: black authors in. It's rare, the finance wealth space. So
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Speaker 4: it's helpful. And be honest with you, I'm not gonna
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Speaker 4: allow you.
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Speaker 3: It is helpful, but we wanted to give that added
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Speaker 3: benefit bonus because I mean, to me, that's a no brainer.
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Speaker 4: For it's thirty. It's thirty dollars.
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Speaker 2: right now.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's a good lesson to every purchase that
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Speaker 2: So to add the options component, and that was a
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Speaker 2: joining like, where's the first.
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Speaker 4: And that gives you a preview to Eyo University. So
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Speaker 4: it's a double edged sword.
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Speaker 3: But you know, just wanting to add a most David
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Speaker 3: Shan said something he did. He said, make the price
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Speaker 3: substantially lower than the value that you're going to give. Yes,
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Speaker 3: So I feel like for thirty dollars, the price is
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Speaker 3: substantially lower than the value that is provided with the
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Speaker 3: book alone.
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Speaker 4: But then when you add the options on top of that,
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Speaker 4: it's a no brainer.
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Speaker 3: But with that being said, it is a very important
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Speaker 3: time in American history and we have a historic election tomorrow,
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Speaker 3: so we wanted to bring a few of our friends,
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Speaker 3: friends of the program Yes on to have a last
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Speaker 3: minute discussion and encouragement to our our audience to vote tomorrow. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: because tomorrow's the last opportunity. So first we'll bring up
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Speaker 3: Jamel Hill, steam journalist.
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Speaker 4: How you doing.
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Speaker 6: I'm good.
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Speaker 7: You see what I'm doing now I'm buying, I'm ordering
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Speaker 7: pre ordering this book.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, appreciate you, and.
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Speaker 7: If I may as somebody whose memoir came out two
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Speaker 7: years ago, and by the way, it's still available on
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Speaker 7: Amazon if you guys want to get it. Yes, people
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Speaker 7: don't understand this book struggle like it's real. And I
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Speaker 7: hope that your followers follow your advice because, as you said,
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Speaker 7: black authors on the New York Times Bestseller list, it's tough,
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Speaker 7: and it's tough no matter what space that you're in.
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Speaker 6: I didn't make it.
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Speaker 7: And literally because another thing too that you have to
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Speaker 7: factor in is when your book comes out and what
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Speaker 7: else has been released that week?
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Speaker 6: And I forgot what else was released.
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Speaker 7: That week because the New York Times they have this
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Speaker 7: very crazy formula nobody quite understands. They don't make it
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Speaker 7: public about how you're able to make this list, and
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Speaker 7: if you're in the author space making this list, although
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Speaker 7: it's not a validation of your work in the respect,
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Speaker 7: it doesn't mean your work is good or bad or
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Speaker 7: awful if you don't make it, but it allows you
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Speaker 7: to continue forward, particularly if you want to stay in
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Speaker 7: the book space. It's one thing to be able to
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Speaker 7: put on the resume and say New York Times Bestseller,
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Speaker 7: which leads to you getting more opportunities and other things.
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Speaker 7: And so for black authors it can be especially tough.
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Speaker 7: So let me reiterate the message to your listeners that
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Speaker 7: black people that you support who have books, buy the
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Speaker 7: books by the books for friends. And a little bit
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Speaker 7: of advice I will give to you all that I
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Speaker 7: learned to be quite helpful because I'm often asked to
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Speaker 7: speak at various universities and places.
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Speaker 6: I made a book by part of the writer, so
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Speaker 6: that also helps.
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Speaker 7: If you say, hey, you know type of pay, but
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Speaker 7: my speaking fee is y'all gotta put y'all gotta get
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Speaker 7: these four thousand books also very helpful. Now sometimes the
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Speaker 7: New York Times and make sure that they get them
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Speaker 7: from a local bookstore that the New York Times counts
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Speaker 7: as part of being a best seller.
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Speaker 6: That's that's my that's my.
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Speaker 1: Ya.
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Speaker 3: So and then we have to bring our other guests
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Speaker 3: on as well. Senator Tim Scott of the Great State
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Speaker 3: of South Carolina.
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Speaker 1: Thank god, I thought y'allre I thought y'all were trying
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Speaker 1: to cut the brother out because he's got our bias name.
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Speaker 5: So I said, I'm looking out for you.
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Speaker 1: Listen. She gave she gave really good advice as an author,
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Speaker 1: I gotta say, even though it's not my place, herbs
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Speaker 1: device was spot on. If you want to be a
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Speaker 1: best selling author and you're not using local bookstores, New
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Speaker 1: York Times is going to discriminate again your selection. And
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Speaker 1: I will say real time that they have a complex,
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Speaker 1: complicated and layered approach to awarding the New York Times Bestseller.
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Speaker 1: It's not based on just sales. Yeah, it is, in
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Speaker 1: fact a very interesting algorithm. So in order to get there,
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Speaker 1: you better be using local bookstores or you will be unhappy.
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Speaker 1: But the number you tell and how it does not
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Speaker 1: work towards your New York Times best selling status.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate that. Not All right? All right, guys, first and
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Speaker 4: foremost welcome.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Do you guys know each other?
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Speaker 1: No, this is.
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Speaker 6: Here's my first time.
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Speaker 7: Yes, I obviously know of I know who Tim Scott is,
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Speaker 7: but I have never met him.
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Speaker 6: This is our first interaction.
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Speaker 4: Well man, welcome to the show. Let's play nice one
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Speaker 4: day away, Let's be kind. Come on.
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Speaker 3: I want to make this just a free flowing conversation everybody,
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Speaker 3: but I just feel like it's just my important for
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Speaker 3: people to just hit that. You know, this is the
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Speaker 3: final call right, this is the last opportunity for anybody.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how you undecided at this point, but
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Speaker 3: you know, there might be some people from the side,
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Speaker 3: or it might just just just to get pushed to
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Speaker 3: actually take part in the political part. There's a lot
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Speaker 3: of people that just are not going to vote. So
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Speaker 3: here's what I've been hearing from people on the Democratic side.
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Speaker 3: They said that their internal polling shows that Kamala is
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Speaker 3: winning the election by a very thin margin. And Trump
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Speaker 3: Trump's narrative, he's already trying to put out that this
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Speaker 3: voter fraud, so that if he does lose, he's going
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Speaker 3: to say that he did not lose. He's putting that
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Speaker 3: out there ready to kind of taint the election. So
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Speaker 3: it's not going to be certified with the anticipation that
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Speaker 3: if it needs to go to the courts, and a
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Speaker 3: lot of the Republicans, you guys run the court system
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Speaker 3: right on the on the Supreme Court. You know you're right,
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Speaker 3: you're on a Supreme court and some of the state
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Speaker 3: courts as well. So is that a fear narrative that
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Speaker 3: I'm hearing or is that something that is not actually true.
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Speaker 1: I think it's certainly fear mongering a little bit there.
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Speaker 1: If you think about Wisconsin, you think about Pennsylvania, you
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Speaker 1: think about Michigan, you think about all the battleground states,
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Speaker 1: they are typically run by Democrats out Republicans number one.
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Speaker 1: Number two, I think the reality of it is that
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Speaker 1: I've been on the ground Franklin, the event in Detroit,
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Speaker 1: the event in Philly, it was in Ohio as well, Wisconsin, Milwaukee,
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Speaker 1: buncing around Las Vegas, Nevada. And I can tell you
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Speaker 1: one thing. There's lots of momentum, lots of energy on
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Speaker 1: the ground. But at the end of the day, we
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Speaker 1: expect a fair election. And my assumption is based on
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Speaker 1: the ground experience in the last ninety six hours or
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Speaker 1: four or five days, is that we are in a
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Speaker 1: strong position to bring home the victory. There are a
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Speaker 1: couple of very positive signs from my perspective. Number one,
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Speaker 1: Trump is outperforming with women better than Kamala is out
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Speaker 1: with men. So when you look at the divide, Trump's
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Speaker 1: doing very well with men, Kamala is doing very well
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Speaker 1: with women. The bottom line is that Trump is doing
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Speaker 1: slightly better with women than Kamala is doing with men.
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Speaker 1: And so that is one very important signal number two
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Speaker 1: African American men. Trump is outperforming as twenty twenty numbers
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Speaker 1: with African American men, even though in all seven battleground
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Speaker 1: states the African American male vote, to your point earlier,
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Speaker 1: is actually down a bit. So we're outperforming in a
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Speaker 1: strong and necessary voting block of Democrats. If that all
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Speaker 1: plays out, then we are in a strong position to
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Speaker 1: be victorious. The caveat out there is that there is
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Speaker 1: an undercounted I heard on the news recently the progressive woman,
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Speaker 1: typically white, is not being factored in as much as
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Speaker 1: she has been in the past. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: that means, how that plays out. But ultimately, based on
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Speaker 1: the amount of information we have today, based on all
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Speaker 1: the polling data of that've scene, we are in a
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Speaker 1: very strong position to do very well in the seven
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Speaker 1: battleground states and that will determine the outcome of this election.
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Speaker 3: So you don't think so, you think it's going to
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Speaker 3: be a fit. You don't think voter fraud is a problem.
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Speaker 1: Well, voter fraud is always the problem. The only question
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Speaker 1: is where is it enough to change the outcome of
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Speaker 1: the elections. I'm not going to concern myself with that.
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Speaker 1: I honestly believe that we're going to have a fair
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Speaker 1: enough election to get the results that will determine the
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Speaker 1: future of this nation. And so as opposed to really
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Speaker 1: going back and forth on something that none of us
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Speaker 1: will be able to have any say until after it's
19:42
Speaker 1: all done, I'd rather spend the energy on why we
19:46
Speaker 1: need to elect four more years of President Donald Trump
19:48
Speaker 1: versus the last four years of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
19:55
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean this is interesting, but so Scott,
20:00
Speaker 2: you brought up a lot of points. You talked about
20:02
Speaker 2: women obviously playing a huge role in this and that's
20:06
Speaker 2: a massive role, and women's reproductive rights has been a
20:09
Speaker 2: major issue. In fact, seventy three percent of women have
20:12
Speaker 2: voted so that they're right their choice. I wonder, Jamelle,
20:16
Speaker 2: as you see it one from a woman's standpoint, the role,
20:18
Speaker 2: and I'm glad you brought up the progressive women. Has
20:22
Speaker 2: enough been done on that side from the Democratic Party?
20:24
Speaker 2: And then from the men's side. We've talked about black
20:28
Speaker 2: men countless times on this show, even when the mic
20:33
Speaker 2: was on. During the Kamala's an interview, she says she's
20:36
Speaker 2: having an issue with men. Has enough been done from men,
20:38
Speaker 2: I guess the two part question and specifically black men,
20:40
Speaker 2: to engage them to get to the polls and vote.
20:44
Speaker 7: Well, I understand in general black people in voter participation
20:48
Speaker 7: has been down since I believe two thousand, since Obama
20:52
Speaker 7: is the second reelection of Obama. So I mean, what
20:55
Speaker 7: we saw in the first time in history, it was
20:58
Speaker 7: that more black people voted than white people in that election,
21:01
Speaker 7: which was quite amazing. And so since then there's been
21:05
Speaker 7: a steady decrease and a lot of it maybe has
21:07
Speaker 7: been a level of dissatisfaction, a lot of other factors,
21:11
Speaker 7: some of which maybe some of us also brought that
21:13
Speaker 7: whole post racial America stuff which wasn't quite true. But
21:17
Speaker 7: I would say well for women in particular, and this
21:20
Speaker 7: is my I'm speaking both from this personally and as
21:23
Speaker 7: I guess if you want to put me in the
21:24
Speaker 7: role as a media pundit, I am someone I had
21:27
Speaker 7: an abortion when I was twenty five years old, and
21:31
Speaker 7: the idea and the thought of this, and I know
21:35
Speaker 7: the usual Republican talking points is it's a state's issue
21:37
Speaker 7: now and all of that, but I think we very
21:40
Speaker 7: much know who owns minimizing the reproductive rights for women
21:45
Speaker 7: in this country, and that person is Donald Trump, and
21:48
Speaker 7: I think for a lot of women, especially older women,
21:50
Speaker 7: because if you pay attention to what's happening in Iowa,
21:53
Speaker 7: where Kamala Harris is doing quite well with are the
21:55
Speaker 7: women who have to grow up without that being a
21:57
Speaker 7: right and what.
21:59
Speaker 6: They don't want to see is things go backwards.
22:01
Speaker 7: And while I know that there has been this sort
22:04
Speaker 7: of word play about whether or not there be a
22:06
Speaker 7: national abortion band where sometimes we hear, you know, where JD.
22:09
Speaker 6: Van says yes and.
22:11
Speaker 7: Other people say yes that are around in Trump's a circle,
22:13
Speaker 7: and he remains not committal. The fact is we can't
22:15
Speaker 7: afford to take that chance. And you know, particularly when
22:19
Speaker 7: you have two more Supreme Court justice openings that will
22:22
Speaker 7: possibly happen in a for the next whoever the next
22:25
Speaker 7: president is, then you further look at what the other
22:29
Speaker 7: erosion of rights could look like. So for women, this
22:32
Speaker 7: is all very serious, and I think one way that
22:35
Speaker 7: in some ways was a missed opportunity in engaging men
22:38
Speaker 7: on this issue is understanding that this is not just
22:40
Speaker 7: a woman's issue.
22:41
Speaker 6: This is a household issue.
22:43
Speaker 7: This is an issue for the for the women that
22:47
Speaker 7: are in these men's lives that they care about, and
22:49
Speaker 7: we have seen repeatedly, like with what's happening in Texas,
22:53
Speaker 7: there's just been so much evidence of how harmful this
22:56
Speaker 7: has been because a lot of these states have triggered laws.
22:59
Speaker 7: So as soon as Row versus Raid was undercut at
23:02
Speaker 7: the federal level, trigger laws went into place that plays
23:04
Speaker 7: very restrictive abortion bands in places, and you are seeing
23:08
Speaker 7: women dying as a result of this. And so one
23:12
Speaker 7: of the things that I saw recently that SMBC did
23:14
Speaker 7: a panel with black male voters and they talked to
23:17
Speaker 7: the men in particular who who the women in their
23:20
Speaker 7: lives have been impacted by this. So this is a
23:23
Speaker 7: very galvanizing issue for women, but it is not just
23:26
Speaker 7: a women's issue.
23:27
Speaker 6: It's something that men should to concern themselves about it all.
23:31
Speaker 7: And look with black voters period, but especially with black men,
23:34
Speaker 7: I get it, it's frustrating, and I think the pace
23:37
Speaker 7: of change has been very difficult for our community, period,
23:41
Speaker 7: but especially for black men. They're looking at, you know,
23:45
Speaker 7: feeling displaced economically, feeling displaced from an educational standpoint, and
23:50
Speaker 7: despite the gains that have been made, sometimes the lack
23:54
Speaker 7: of progress becomes the headline and not looking at how
23:56
Speaker 7: the incremental change has actually.
23:58
Speaker 6: Happened, and so they feel dis engaged.
24:00
Speaker 7: And I've often said to two men and to black
24:03
Speaker 7: voters period, and I hope to the men that are
24:05
Speaker 7: listening to to our conversation, is that the best way
24:10
Speaker 7: to release your power, or to give up your power
24:13
Speaker 7: is when people convince you you don't have any And
24:16
Speaker 7: so by that measure, they have some of the disenchanted voters.
24:20
Speaker 7: Because I agree with you, I don't think this is
24:22
Speaker 7: really an issue of more black men voting for Donald Trump.
24:24
Speaker 7: I think this is black men versus the couch. The
24:27
Speaker 7: underside is are I'm.
24:28
Speaker 3: Eithers the couch, but definitely no, we have to be fair.
24:33
Speaker 4: There's definitely a lot of black men. It's more.
24:36
Speaker 6: Yes, it's a more. It's an uptick.
24:38
Speaker 1: So I don't want to I don't.
24:41
Speaker 4: Yes, I think the most black men.
24:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a couple of points. Summer when
24:45
Speaker 1: I was looking down because I was looking up our
24:48
Speaker 1: our rbg's comments about uh the rights the Roe v
24:54
Speaker 1: Wade going back to the States, she said there is literally,
24:57
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing what she said, there is no found nation
25:00
Speaker 1: for a national ban or national conversation. This really is
25:05
Speaker 1: a state's rights issue, and that is what she said.
25:09
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I had that right before
25:10
Speaker 1: I came on the air and said that that's paraphrasing
25:13
Speaker 1: what she has said in the past, but very clearly
25:16
Speaker 1: one of the most important progressive justices on the court,
25:21
Speaker 1: perhaps ever thought of the issue of abortion as a
25:26
Speaker 1: state's issue. In not having a national footing, I will
25:29
Speaker 1: say very clearly, President Trump has not just been clear,
25:34
Speaker 1: he's been crystal clear that it should not be a
25:37
Speaker 1: national issue, and therefore there cannot be a national ban
25:41
Speaker 1: on something that is not a national issue. He went
25:44
Speaker 1: further on to say that there are no votes on
25:47
Speaker 1: either side, Republican or Democrats. There are not enough votes
25:50
Speaker 1: on either side to get it done a national ban.
25:54
Speaker 1: So that issue is an issue that is laid to rest,
25:57
Speaker 1: without a question. The issue of black voter participation, but
26:01
Speaker 1: specifically black men voting. We saw the largest turnout of
26:06
Speaker 1: black folks in Georgia and the history of the state
26:09
Speaker 1: just in twenty twenty two. I would say that if
26:13
Speaker 1: what we see in the polls holds true tomorrow night,
26:18
Speaker 1: by the time this voting is done. So to speak,
26:21
Speaker 1: you'll see the largest increase in Black male support of
26:25
Speaker 1: the Republican candidate in my lifetime, almost sixty years. I
26:29
Speaker 1: know you thought it was only forty years, but it's
26:31
Speaker 1: actually one of the reasons why you'll see that is
26:36
Speaker 1: what she was just talking about. Educational outcome is in
26:42
Speaker 1: fact the primary indicator of income, wealth, position in society,
26:49
Speaker 1: and the lack of government intervention in your life, including incarceration.
26:55
Speaker 1: And so for us to focus on the primary issue
26:58
Speaker 1: negatively impacting black men is to focus on the important
27:03
Speaker 1: issue of education. The better your education system, the better
27:07
Speaker 1: your results. That's just cart Blanc number two. I'd say economically,
27:13
Speaker 1: if we were able to separate the issue, black men
27:17
Speaker 1: are frustrated because our paychecks are smaller because of the
27:23
Speaker 1: impact of inflation over the last four years, and so
27:26
Speaker 1: much so that you can measure it in the frustration
27:29
Speaker 1: and in the turnout. This is the last point I'll
27:32
Speaker 1: make for all of my life. We as a race
27:39
Speaker 1: of voters have been taken for granted by the Democrat
27:42
Speaker 1: Party and to a large extent, for a long time,
27:45
Speaker 1: ignored by the Republican Party. The Republican Party says, if
27:48
Speaker 1: everyone's going to vote against us? Why bother? The Democrats
27:52
Speaker 1: party said, if everybody's voting for us, why bother? With
27:56
Speaker 1: only one out of four black men being interested did
28:00
Speaker 1: and engaging in this process Republican or Democrat. Now both
28:05
Speaker 1: parties are engaging with black men. What does that tell me?
28:10
Speaker 1: It tells me that power comes from being independent. I'm
28:16
Speaker 1: not suggesting you join the Republican Party. I'm not suggesting
28:20
Speaker 1: that you leave the Democrat Party. I am suggesting vote
28:23
Speaker 1: your values and vote your future. If we do that,
28:27
Speaker 1: I think you'll see a strong turnout for the Republican Party,
28:32
Speaker 1: not only for Donald Trump, but for Senate candidates as well.
28:35
Speaker 1: And hopefully when this election's over, both parties will be
28:39
Speaker 1: far more interested and doing what I have already done,
28:42
Speaker 1: by the way, which is represent the issues that move
28:46
Speaker 1: people forward as one nation, but also as the most
28:50
Speaker 1: vulnerable part of the economic link. That's one of the
28:53
Speaker 1: reasons why I created oppersit to need zones. It's one
28:56
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I focus on sick of cel anemia.
29:00
Speaker 1: Research has led to the crisper breakthrough that now can
29:04
Speaker 1: cure SECA cel. It's another reason why I focused on
29:08
Speaker 1: HBCUs and in a bipartisan fashion. I worked with Democrats
29:12
Speaker 1: and Republicans to restore the opportunity scholarship momentum in DC
29:17
Speaker 1: and around the country because if we get education right,
29:21
Speaker 1: if we reform the incarceration system, not just the criminal
29:25
Speaker 1: justice system, but the incarceration system, more men, particularly of color,
29:31
Speaker 1: will have brighter futures. And that's what we have done.
29:34
Speaker 1: That is measurable success in reasonable time, and if the
29:39
Speaker 1: people vote on their values and their issues, we will
29:43
Speaker 1: make great gains.
29:46
Speaker 5: Speaking of games, I want to go to the gamail
29:48
Speaker 5: that you want to reply.
29:49
Speaker 7: I can well what I would say, and in addition
29:53
Speaker 7: to you know, applying to Scaffoard's work, is that but
29:57
Speaker 7: you know, look, yes, yeah, you just come me right there,
30:04
Speaker 7: because I'm sure that'll be a I applaud you for
30:12
Speaker 7: the work that you've done that in that regard, but
30:15
Speaker 7: also there is the issue of the George Fluss did
30:17
Speaker 7: the George Floyd Justice.
30:18
Speaker 6: And Policing Act, which you were a part of. But
30:20
Speaker 6: you see any movement. We didn't see any movement on that, and.
30:23
Speaker 7: There was a lot of there's a lot of reasons why,
30:26
Speaker 7: and I know that is an issue that is critical
30:27
Speaker 7: to black men. It also does not help when you
30:30
Speaker 7: have your presidential candidates saying that the police deserve full immunity,
30:33
Speaker 7: which is also an issue for black men. And while
30:36
Speaker 7: as much as the First Step Act, which by the way,
30:39
Speaker 7: was if i'm and again you're the politician, so you
30:41
Speaker 7: know this the timelines of this better than I am
30:44
Speaker 7: than I do. Obviously, Donald Trump signed the First Step Act,
30:47
Speaker 7: and I know for a lot of black men that
30:48
Speaker 7: was a very critical piece of legislation. However, that being said,
30:52
Speaker 7: it was something that was bipartisan in the worst before
30:54
Speaker 7: he got into office.
30:55
Speaker 6: But he was able to obviously I were able to
30:58
Speaker 6: push it through.
30:58
Speaker 7: But that being said, you have Bill Barr who did
31:02
Speaker 7: a lot to try to undermine what the First Step
31:04
Speaker 7: Act was supposed to do. So I when you talk
31:07
Speaker 7: about voting your values, either there is a disconnect and
31:11
Speaker 7: what those values are because those are not the values
31:13
Speaker 7: that I get when I watch your presidential candidate. Is
31:15
Speaker 7: that I get the exact opposite of everything you just said.
31:19
Speaker 7: I get him talking about turning guns on protesters. I
31:21
Speaker 7: get him talking about full immunity for the police. So
31:24
Speaker 7: as much as I would like to say, oh, let's
31:28
Speaker 7: not what you want people to do is like not
31:30
Speaker 7: take them seriously, or that's not what he means.
31:32
Speaker 6: If I got to that's not what he means.
31:34
Speaker 7: One more time, it's just like, what's the real vision
31:37
Speaker 7: of the party, particularly as it relates to this issue,
31:39
Speaker 7: because what I'm.
31:40
Speaker 6: Hearing at the top is not the things that you're saying.
31:43
Speaker 1: Well, Jamel, I would just question what you're saying in
31:48
Speaker 1: light of what we see on both sides of the aisle.
31:51
Speaker 1: That's one of the points I was making, Bob Mine
31:53
Speaker 1: or something like this. When you look at the first
31:55
Speaker 1: step act, any president, any president before Donald Trump, could
32:01
Speaker 1: have had legislation to reform our criminal justice system. They
32:06
Speaker 1: just didn't do it. The last time it was done
32:08
Speaker 1: it was in the nineteen nineties, when in fact, they
32:10
Speaker 1: locked up more black men as a result of the
32:13
Speaker 1: move from the Democrat Party to try to squash crime
32:17
Speaker 1: in the neighborhoods.
32:18
Speaker 6: Which were to support it. Don't act like they didn't
32:21
Speaker 6: because they did.
32:22
Speaker 1: No, no, no, But I'm just saying it was sponsored
32:25
Speaker 1: by and led by the Democrat Party. That's something we
32:28
Speaker 1: can just look up. I'm not going to give you
32:30
Speaker 1: my opinion on any of these things because they're really
32:33
Speaker 1: too important to just try to make a political punching
32:37
Speaker 1: bag out of it. I'm suggesting that Donald Trump could
32:40
Speaker 1: have passed on the First Step Act. I'm suggesting that
32:43
Speaker 1: he could have not worked with people in our community
32:47
Speaker 1: like the ACLU and Heritage Foundation, and the Koch brothers,
32:54
Speaker 1: and media personalities who may not want to be named
32:57
Speaker 1: in this conversation, who we both probably mayern respect. They
33:01
Speaker 1: were at the White House with me when we were
33:03
Speaker 1: about to take the pictures. I said, brother, you might
33:05
Speaker 1: want to get out of this frame. May not be
33:06
Speaker 1: good for your TV contract. And so he said, you
33:09
Speaker 1: know what's him, I'm moving out the frame. And so
33:10
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is that people coming together
33:13
Speaker 1: should be the way things get done, but you have
33:16
Speaker 1: to have a president willing to push it forward. Talk
33:19
Speaker 1: about unqualified immunity for law enforcement. Never a part of
33:24
Speaker 1: the first never a part of the of the police reform,
33:27
Speaker 1: never a part qualified immunity, always a part of the conversation.
33:32
Speaker 1: Qualified immunity suggests that what happened with George Floyd, He's
33:36
Speaker 1: going to jail for murder. What happened recently in DC,
33:39
Speaker 1: lady getting shot in the face, arrested, What happened with
33:42
Speaker 1: in Memphis with the officers beating up the African American
33:45
Speaker 1: driver arrested, So we should be careful on explaining the
33:51
Speaker 1: difference between qualified immunity and frankly unlimited you just do
33:56
Speaker 1: what you want to do, like it'sa a wow, wild West.
33:58
Speaker 1: I would not support that one on the police reform
34:01
Speaker 1: because we get I mean, I spent two and a
34:03
Speaker 1: half years of my life in this process, so I
34:05
Speaker 1: know it very well. I offered my friends on the
34:07
Speaker 1: other side unlimited amendments to do whatever they wanted to do,
34:12
Speaker 1: even though we were seventy percent. Seventy percent of the
34:15
Speaker 1: bill was right where we wanted it to be on
34:17
Speaker 1: both sides, they walked away. Now they so we would
34:20
Speaker 1: come back, and to his credit, not their credit, but
34:24
Speaker 1: to his credit, Corey Booker came back and we still
34:28
Speaker 1: have conversations about criminal justice reform, I mean police reform
34:31
Speaker 1: to this day. We're still working on legislation that we
34:34
Speaker 1: both have in our files right now that we talked
34:36
Speaker 1: about this year, and so the action continues. But many
34:41
Speaker 1: of the members that were there with us have decided
34:45
Speaker 1: to do something else with their time, and so we
34:48
Speaker 1: could go on with that one issue, or talk about
34:52
Speaker 1: criminal justice reform, or talk about education. But here's the
34:55
Speaker 1: question I keep asking all my friends who happen to
34:58
Speaker 1: be Democrats in this out in the black community. It
35:02
Speaker 1: is simply this, are you Are you better off now
35:05
Speaker 1: than you were? And the answer is no. That's why continue.
35:10
Speaker 7: It's on who you're talking to, with all due respect,
35:12
Speaker 7: because I lost my husband, lost his grandmother to COVID.
35:18
Speaker 7: I lost a very dear friend of mine also to COVID,
35:21
Speaker 7: And so to tout are you better off now than
35:25
Speaker 7: you were four years ago, without the context of us
35:28
Speaker 7: being in a major pandemic of which the president was,
35:31
Speaker 7: the president being Donald Trump was wildly irresponsible, with of
35:35
Speaker 7: which remembering yes he was, he was wildly irresponsible, wildly
35:40
Speaker 7: wildly says that wildly irresponse.
35:43
Speaker 1: Let's just take NBC News May of twenty twenty when
35:48
Speaker 1: they said it will take five years, if not ten years,
35:53
Speaker 1: for there to be a vaccine available to save millions
35:57
Speaker 1: and millions upon lives. We said, I was there. We said,
36:02
Speaker 1: that is just going to crush the American soul in
36:06
Speaker 1: less than twelve months and nine months using mRNA German
36:11
Speaker 1: company and an American company and nih CDC fumbled the
36:16
Speaker 1: ball for the first four weeks of COVID getting their
36:20
Speaker 1: act together under President Trump's direction to get something done. Absolutely,
36:26
Speaker 1: without question, the most consequential decision made was to allow
36:31
Speaker 1: that public private partnership to produce a vaccine, still the
36:34
Speaker 1: controversial vaccine in the eyes of many many people, but
36:37
Speaker 1: in the end, millions of lives likely saved through that action.
36:43
Speaker 7: We could debate so many issues, but what I'm saying
36:46
Speaker 7: is that when you proposed the question a better off
36:48
Speaker 7: than four years ago, four years ago, I would have
36:51
Speaker 7: liked not to have lived through the time of not
36:54
Speaker 7: being able to leave my house. And there were economic
36:58
Speaker 7: factors that obviously fluence what some of the pricing was then.
37:03
Speaker 7: So when you tell the story about what the what
37:05
Speaker 7: things look like four years ago, we need to tell
37:07
Speaker 7: the complete story in the full context.
37:10
Speaker 4: Mister Tim, do you have to leave him?
37:13
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I've got a TV interview and well
37:17
Speaker 1: right the second so I have to go through. Yeah,
37:19
Speaker 1: But let me just tose with this, even though I'm
37:21
Speaker 1: going to irritate my team real quick here, but at
37:23
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I hope jaml and I
37:25
Speaker 1: come back after the election and have I do lash
37:29
Speaker 1: debate about future issues and initiatives that will have a
37:34
Speaker 1: positive and negative impact on our community. I'll close of
37:38
Speaker 1: my parting thought on COVID. I think it's a really
37:41
Speaker 1: important conversation that we can take a deep dive in
37:45
Speaker 1: even after this. I don't mind. I don't ever run
37:47
Speaker 1: away from a debate. I actually like to have a discussion.
37:50
Speaker 1: I like when they're civil. But we've been very civil
37:52
Speaker 1: and we're not going to come to the same point
37:54
Speaker 1: of agreement. But I will say without question that one
37:56
Speaker 1: of the most profound things done during COVID to help
37:59
Speaker 1: people who have to go to work. Eighty percent of
38:01
Speaker 1: African Americans could not work from home. We had to
38:04
Speaker 1: go to our jobs. The government says shut the entire
38:09
Speaker 1: economy down. We gave out Pheck protection programs and cash
38:14
Speaker 1: to make sure that those who had to go to
38:16
Speaker 1: work had extra assistance. That wasn't done perfectly. We'll argue
38:20
Speaker 1: that later.
38:22
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I think you probably know what my mind
38:25
Speaker 6: is say.
38:28
Speaker 1: We know for sure nothing's one perfectly, but we also
38:30
Speaker 1: know no other administration in the history of the world
38:34
Speaker 1: had to deal with a worldwide epidemic or challenge since
38:40
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen. So we can debate looking back on what
38:44
Speaker 1: could have been done or should have been done, but
38:45
Speaker 1: if you look forward through it. I'll take that debate
38:49
Speaker 1: all day long and hopefully we'll do this in a
38:53
Speaker 1: couple of weeks when when I'm available to come back. Unfortunately,
38:56
Speaker 1: have five TV hits back to back to back, several hours.
39:00
Speaker 4: So thank you, thank you.
39:02
Speaker 1: Cut y'all short, but I do appreciate your appreciate change
39:05
Speaker 1: with our technology challenges. And he just stop talking. Okay,
39:11
Speaker 1: you have me back again, and Jael, I appreciate you
39:13
Speaker 1: saying this guy. You've been compelling and Martin and unfortunately
39:19
Speaker 1: I would like for you not to have a microphone.
39:21
Speaker 1: Next time we talk, I'll just repack you.
39:24
Speaker 6: Will we will live to argue another day.
39:26
Speaker 8: Sia discuss an illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping
39:33
Speaker 8: a child in Massachusetts, an MS thirteen gang member from
39:36
Speaker 8: Al Salvador accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan
39:41
Speaker 8: charged with filming and selling child pornography in Michigan.
39:45
Speaker 9: These are just some of the heinous migrant criminals caught
39:48
Speaker 9: because of President Donald J.
39:50
Speaker 10: Trump's leadership. I'm Christine Noman, the.
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Speaker 9: United States Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted
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Speaker 9: illegal border crossings are at the lowest.
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Speaker 10: Levels ever recorded, and over.
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Speaker 9: One hundred thousand illegal aliens.
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Speaker 10: Have been arrested.
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Speaker 9: If you are here illegally, your next you will be
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Speaker 9: fined nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported.
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Speaker 10: You will never return.
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Speaker 9: But if you register using our CBP home app and
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Speaker 9: leave now, you could be allowed.
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Speaker 10: To return legally. Do what's right, leave now.
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Speaker 9: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected.
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Speaker 1: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,