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9 | Why Women Should Be Talking About These Transitions More · Let's Talk! An Our2Gens Podcast

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  Let's talk. Welcome.
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  Back weirdos. I love that we've called the
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  weirdos now. Hey, welcome to our two gems.
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  I'm Danielle Nicki. I'm Trinity Grace.
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  Today we're going to talk about transitioning as women.
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  The. Topic Oh my God, all the
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  different transitions that we go through.
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  Yeah, because there's so many and I don't appreciate that
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  there's so many. Like, why can't it just be
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  linear? Not only.
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  Can it just be linear? Can they not overlap that part?
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  Because that's what I'm pissed off about.
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  That part. Oh my God.
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  I mean, I'll start. Please do please.
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  Do because I have a rant about puberty but I'll get to that
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  eventually. Oh well, I have a rant about
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  perimenopause. Please, please.
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  So I'm at the age where my body has decided that we are thinking
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  about not being able to produce any more children, right?
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  Great. Love that for me.
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  Wonderful, right? But also I still have a period.
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  Which isn't fair. I feel like it should link up.
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  If we're done, we're done. We are.
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  Done. It's like I'm pulling into the
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  train station and they're like making the announcements, but
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  the train station is still five years away.
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  Yeah, No, I, I need an agreement.
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  We are done. If we are done, we are done.
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  We are done. No need a hemorrhage.
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  We're good. We are done.
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  I have both a fan underneath this desk so I don't sweat to
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  death. That part.
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  And I have cramps at the same time and it just feels like
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  bullshit. Yeah, like who decided?
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  I I think it there's a there's a flaw in the system.
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  Yeah, I need someone to blame like I need a name.
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  You know what, I like this. I like this because I'm kind of
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  in a pissy mood right now. And it would really help if I
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  had somebody to blame and I could just call them up and be
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  like, bro, look, you did this wrong.
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  There's some wires that got crossed, right?
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  Because we deal with drama and craziness almost from the
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  beginning of our lives. And then we get to the end and
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  it's like, oh, I'm almost done. And then they're like, no, you
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  got to do these things together. One more hurdle, yeah.
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  Your period is going to be the heaviest, the craziest, the most
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  unreliable you've ever had in your life.
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  You're not going to be able to sleep without sweating through
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  your sheets and your clothes. You're not going to be able to
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  exist in daily life without extra strength deodorant.
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  OK, I'm on to. The extra.
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  Strength. The regular strength wasn't
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  enough. Regular strength.
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  I thought I was funky. No, I needed the real strength,
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  more upper level strength for the Queens.
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  The Queens need extra strength. Deodorant.
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  I love that. And then it's just like you're
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  going through all these crazy things.
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  But my biggest rant is all of the side effects of being in
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  Perryman, and I'm going to take a little aside.
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  I've decided I'm going to call it Perryman because it makes me
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  happier to be pissed off when the word man is in it.
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  Oh my goodness. Which brings me back to the
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  name. I feel like we should just call
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  this entity George. So, George, I hate you, George.
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  I hate you for puberty. I hate you for menopause.
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  I hate you for the periods. I hate you for the mood swings.
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  I hate you for the cramps. I hate you for all of that.
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  So, George. Fuck off, George, we're going to
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  call. Him.
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  George. I love this George.
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  All right, George is a terrorist and he hops on a woman's back
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  when she is a child and he does not fall off until she's like
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  65. Yeah, but the unfair part is
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  that George will fluctuate his weight depending on which woman.
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  See, I used to have a 60 LB George on my back, but now I
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  feel like I got a 200 LB George he on my back.
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  I don't like to that. Tell me.
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  I my periods never used to be this bad.
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  Now I'm hurting every week and now I'm fresh in it.
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  It's not like I've been doing this for more than a decade.
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  I haven't, but I'm done. You're like I want it.
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  Take it. Why do I need it True, you know,
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  cuz no, no. And also I feel like if you make
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  a decision internally and say do I want kids?
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  Do I not want kids that should establish whether or not the
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  period. Should keep going.
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  Yes. And we should be able to kill
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  George after you've had children.
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  Exactly. George 3 go.
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  OK, I've contributed to society. Right.
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  I'm done. George can move on to the next
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  victim. Oh my.
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  Gosh, the next one, yes, thank you.
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  So George, bye. But no, George said I'm a stay
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  and you know what I'm a eat and I'm a gain weight and I'm a
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  still be on your back and I'm like God.
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  He doesn't know what he wants to do.
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  Yeah, yeah. Oh no, he has no purpose in life
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  other than to torment you. So George.
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  George. I'm coming for you.
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  Yes, I like that we named him George.
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  Yeah, George is fitting, right? He, he sounds annoying.
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  He sounds like he gets on your last nerve, right?
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  Yes. Yes, he sounds like he just
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  doesn't take no for an answer. That part.
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  So George, you're on. You're on my list, but please
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  continue. So, OK, well for, for mine, I, I
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  really am frustrated with the fact that I can't tell what is
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  going to happen to my body because there's not a whole lot
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  of research that's done on women's healthcare period.
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  So I was having these weird heart things that was going on
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  with me, like I'm laying down and my heart is just like boom,
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  out of my chest. And I'm like, what is this?
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  And then thank goodness for people like Halle Berry and
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  Oprah Winfrey who have gone on in public and said, hey, I
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  thought I was having a heart attack and I'm going to the
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  emergency room, I'm going to the doctor's.
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  But turns out that heart palpitations are a side effect
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  of being in Perry, man. But the turns out is crazy like
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  that information isn't readily available for us.
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  Exactly. I mean, you could Google and you
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  can look at all these different things.
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  There's so many weird side effects.
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  Don't look. At Google, because Google's
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  going to tell you you're dying, Doctor.
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  Google told me I was dying. I was.
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  Dying. Especially with.
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  The AI too, they're like, in short words, you're dead.
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  Like now searched. In short, you're gone.
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  Like, I don't even know why you're here anymore, right?
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  But it's not talked about. And so I really appreciate the
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  women who are just older than me who are, have been going through
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  this for a while and have decided that they're going to be
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  open and talk about this because a lot of things just aren't
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  spoken about. And so you have somebody like me
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  that literally a year, a year and a half ago, I was always
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  cold. And now the thought of putting
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  on socks makes me want to scream.
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  Because the switch up is crazy. It's going to.
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  Warm me up too much and my poor husband.
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  We're in bed and I'm in like AT shirt with the with the sheet
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  and he's got a hoodie on because I've got the fan, the air
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  conditioner, I got everything on and the thinnest blanket period.
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  Like you're not. Hot.
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  I'm hot. Yeah, I'm so hot, so hot, and
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  I'm just a heater, can't touch my skin.
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  I'm so hot. And it just happened like that.
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  But I wouldn't be so upset if George only stayed around for
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  like a year, right? But no, I am just at the if
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  there's a hill, I'm at the bottom.
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  No. Yeah.
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  Wait, so how long? It could after up to 10.
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  Years No see no, no, I'm just saying no because that's stupid.
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  It's. Dumb.
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  And there's nothing you could do about it.
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  I mean, there's things that you can do to lessen things, but
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  it's just like, can I just do it?
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  Can I just? Be done, done.
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  Why is it got to be a marathon? I'm a Sprint type of person.
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  Like, let's, let's go. Let's just Sprint there.
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  You know who? Do I call?
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  Like we said, we need somebody to blame.
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  I know I also want to submit a proposal.
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  Oh please, that it only lasts a year.
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  Absolutely. Because I mean, minimum five
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  years. That just sounds like bullshit.
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  I'm going to say it again. It's just like in a.
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  Minute Five years. What?
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  Yeah. No, that doesn't seem worth it.
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  Five years of this. Two what for what?
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  Reason I had to really have make a game time decision on wearing
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  sleeves today because I was just like I don't know I'm kind of
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  hot my. Game time decision.
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  I'm kind of hot. Real everything, every decision
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  now wraps around George. It wraps around pair of men
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  because I'm just like, am I going to be hot in this?
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  Right. It's freezing outside, but you
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  know what? I'm kind of hot, so I'm just
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  going to bring a jacket and I don't want to wear it.
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  Things feel weird on my skin, really.
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  Food tastes weird. My skin like that's another
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  thing. Why am I having breakouts?
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  Why no? Can we not?
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  That should be like a 25 years and younger thing.
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  Max right? Like why are you?
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  Still here a pimple? You don't belong here.
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  Go torment a 13 year old like. A pimple like a like a range of
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  them. Yeah, Yeah.
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  So I mean, I'm gonna, I'm getting hot just talking about
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  this, so I want to talk about you.
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  Than you already are OK. I'm getting even more hot.
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  I need to cool down is. That possible?
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  Like seriously, I can feel the heat rising in my skin.
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  George is on you right now. I'm just gonna shoot him.
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  I can't. But George.
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  Man, have you? Ever been that hot?
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  No, I'm always cold. See, and that used to be me.
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  I used to be cold all the time, but do you remember like
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  puberty? Do you remember what it felt
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  like to go through? That yes and I hate her.
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  I hate 1312 year old me like every time I think about her I
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  like I hate her. She was the worst and she
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  tormented my parents all the time.
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  It was so evil. And every time I think about it,
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  I'm like, you were evil, Like George was puppeting me, like it
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  was horrible. And I've always been cold,
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  honestly for the longest time. So that was in addition, my
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  emotions were on an all time high.
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  Luckily my parents were that bad back then.
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  The cramps weren't that bad. It was just like my emotions.
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  Yeah. It was the craziest roller
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  coaster ever. I do remember that.
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  It's like a drop. It's not even like this.
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  It was like up, down, up, down. It's crazy.
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  And you can't say anything to me because I'd go in my room and I
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  cry for like 2 hours. And I know you remember that.
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  Not only do I remember it, I was like, maybe something's going
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  on. It wasn't even like depression
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  or anything, it was just I'm emotional so I'm going to wallow
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  in my feelings for two. Hours and two, I've never seen
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  someone cry for two hours straight.
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  Like to keep. It going did that I know I was
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  dried out like eyes puffy every day.
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  It is what it is, but that you had no control over that.
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  And that's what I think is unfair because from the start,
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  it's just like somebody took over your life.
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  Like you can see the way I like to describe it is like you can
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  see yourself making these decisions.
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  You're like, don't say that, but then you say.
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  It say it anyway. Like you can't stop yourself
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  from saying. It's like you're watching
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  yourself be out of control. A slow motion car crash, for
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  sure. It's not fair.
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  It's not fair at all. But when you're out of it, it's
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  like the sky is clear. You know, your decisions are
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  much better, You know, it's just horrible.
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  And I feel like honestly, for everyone, don't hold them
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  accountable for that time, anyone, unless they did
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  something like ridiculous. But we're all just going through
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  it. The chemical changes are.
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  Crazy. And I'm glad you brought that up
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  because it is chemical. Like we have no control over
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  this. Like some people.
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  Yeah, you can lean in. You know, you can.
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  You can totally lean in and be like, you know what?
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  I like this. I like George, me and George are
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  hanging out. We're just going to we're just
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  going to be no right. But there's some things that you
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  literally can't control. And I saw a video the other day
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  where this guy was like, you have cramps, you have your
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  period week, and then you have like post week cramps and post
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  week issues. And he's like, so you only have
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  one week a month where you feel normal.
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  And everyone was like, yeah, yeah, that's normal.
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  And I don't think people who don't menstruate can understand
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  how how how it feels because not only do you go through all those
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  things, you still have to go to. Work definitely you still.
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  Have to raise children. You still have to, you know,
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  keep your house. And you have to try not to
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  isolate yourself against everybody else because all the
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  women are going through it at different times.
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  So your best friend or your child or your mother could be on
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  Week 2 and you on Week 4. You're in the hot week.
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  Yeah, You know, don't talk to me.
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  Yes. So it's it's it's just say like
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  give people grace definitely because we are all going through
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  through something that we literally.
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  Can't control, can't control and we're trying our best and I kind
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  of like to be controlled in a lot of situations, so it annoys
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  me that we only have 12 weeks a year to be normal.
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  When you put it like. That jeez.
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  And over our lifetime, that's actually kind of crazy.
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  Then that makes me feel like the other stuff is actually normal,
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  you know, like living underneath this, this bubble of chemicals
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  is the norm, right? And feeling perfectly good in
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  your body, not being bloated, not being broken out, not food,
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  doesn't taste weird. Everything is working for you
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  like just 1/4 of your life. That's not fair.
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  Do you even know who you are? Good question.
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  You know, because I feel like I'm a different person every
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  week. True.
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  And that's not fair. And it's like, who is real me,
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  you know? Exactly.
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  And you were saying your periods weren't bad when you were young.
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  So I remember that you would never ask for any medication or
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  anything. And you were just like, I'm
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  great. I was.
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  Like if this is what periods are, I can do this for the rest
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  of my life two years later. I have always had heavy and
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  cramp, like really bad cramps. And so, you know, I don't know
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  if they still do this, but I was put on birth control early
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  because it helped with the cramps and made it because they
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  were kind of debilitating. Like, you know, you're just,
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  like hunched over and you can't, you know, do anything really.
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  Yeah. And so I remember it just being
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  bad from the start. And then after I had children,
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  it just started doing this like I from month to month, no idea
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  what's going to happen. When is it going to show up?
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  Am I going to get cramps? Am I not going to get cramps?
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  I don't know. And it's still like that.
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  I just don't know. We'll just see.
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  We'll see. We'll play it by ear.
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  I don't like that because we should have a schedule here,
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  right? They're like, no, it'll be 28
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  days here, 34 days here. Oh my.
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  God it. Oh my gosh, it's not fair.
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  It really is. It is so, so not fair.
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  And I'm more heated now because like, I got a problem.
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  Why did it get worse? And that's the thing, there's
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  no, it's not like something you did or didn't do or something
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  you can do about it. It's just how your body is
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  reacting to these chemicals and what's going on within yourself.
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  I. Don't even know.
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  I don't even know. It was crazy.
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  I just grew up and then all of a sudden the acne got worse and it
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  just and I was like you. See.
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  That's why they're. Right.
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  It's not good to grow up. Stay young as long as you can,
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  people. Stay young.
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  Yes. Because it don't get better.
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  Don't. Get Oh my God, like what is?
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  Better literally from. You got to pay bills.
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  It was horrendous. It was horrendous.
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  Like in my closet in like a ball because it was that bad.
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  Like it was Oh my God, it was horrible.
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  And I was like, I don't remember this.
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  I could have sworn when I was 13 it wasn't this bad.
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  And I'm just like. It wasn't.
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  It really wasn't. I know, George, you can kick
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  rocks, honestly. George and.
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  Get off of my back. That's what I'm saying, like,
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  and so, you know, it's like there's puberty and there's when
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  you grow up, when you become an adult and your body's like, OK,
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  I'm going to settle into this, this is who I am.
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  And then you have children, right?
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  And then the whole children part is it just throws everything all
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  out of whack. And then you go through
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  perimenopause for however long. And then for women that I've
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  spoke through, who have gone through menopause and they're
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  done, they say that's when they feel the most, the best they've
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  ever felt in their life. And I'm like, are you telling me
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  that I have to wait until I'm 60 years old before I feel like a
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  good, like a like a whole person, a whole person?
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  I ain't got that much time. What say say I kick it at 80?
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  I have to wait until I AM 60 to get that.
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  Life, right? Who says that's fair?
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  No, I mean, there's no fairness in this.
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  George. I could strangle you, George.
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  But it makes me wonder, OK, so I did mention how there's not a
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  lot known about women's bodies and our healthcare.
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  And that is a fact because I mean, take the the like period
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  products, they weren't tested on actual menstrual blood.
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  They were tested on dyed water. Seriously.
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  Yeah. And so the absorbency is
• 17:36
  incorrect because water and blood are totally different.
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  And also blood that comes out of here and blood that comes out of
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  some other place is different. And so it took them until just
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  recently to be like, hey, maybe we should test it with the
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  actual thing it's being used on. And that's just a small example.
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  I mean, hip replacements, knee replacements, all of those
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  things were the, the, the science that they have is based
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  off of male hips, knees, male bodies.
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  And so there's very little about our healthcare that they know
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  about. And so it makes me wonder, is
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  there something they could be doing about this?
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  100% I believe that in my his soul.
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  But if they just spend the time and the money figuring it out,
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  it's a priority. To them it's not.
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  Who's them? You know who them is?
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  George's friends. George and his colleagues don't
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  think that it's a big deal. It's fine.
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  It is. They just want to rest on our
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  backs and then we'll suffer and it's fine.
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  Oh my God. So like, let's just, let's just
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  do a little bit more research for ladies bodies.
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  I mean, OK, so let's let me talk to y'all for a second.
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  You know, the the vase, OK, You have to deal with women having
• 18:53
  these issues for 2 1/2 weeks, a year, three weeks, I mean a
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  month. And so wouldn't you like to have
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  a easier life? The scientists out there, you
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  know what I'm saying? Wouldn't you want to find a
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  solution right? Because I'm overreacting too
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  much. Right.
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  I'm emotional right now. Too much.
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  So if you don't want to deal with my emotions, find a
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  solution for my emotions. Sounds right to me.
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  Please and thank you. I expect this solution by next
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  month. Thank you.
• 19:23
  Yeah, let's get on that. Thank you.
• 19:28
  Yeah, it's just so unfair. And I just don't like how we
• 19:33
  have to deal with this on top of everything else that life throws
• 19:36
  at you and how it's always taught a young age.
• 19:40
  You're like, OK, so this is what's going to happen.
• 19:43
  This is how you're probably going to feel.
• 19:45
  But there's no way of predicting how bad it might be for one girl
• 19:48
  or another. Or if you're shocked and this
• 19:51
  girl at nine years old gets hers.
• 19:54
  Had a. Friend.
• 19:55
  Who? Her parents didn't even talk to
• 19:56
  her yet because they're like, oh, we got like.
• 19:57
  Four years. Worth.
• 20:00
  You know, all these things that we have to deal with or if you
• 20:04
  start growing weird, like if your boobs grow weird and you
• 20:06
  have to get like surgery or if anything going on with your
• 20:10
  uterus is going wrong. It's just like all of these
• 20:14
  extra complicated situations on top of our normal healthcare
• 20:19
  like dental and you know. Yeah, which why is it separate?
• 20:24
  Good point. Yeah, very, very good.
• 20:26
  Why do I have to pay for medical, dental and vision?
• 20:29
  It's all of my body. Like let's just have body.
• 20:32
  Insurance. Body insurance.
• 20:34
  How about that? That should be.
• 20:35
  Cheaper anyway. Go ahead, continue.
• 20:37
  Sorry. But yeah, it's just like it's,
• 20:40
  it's adding up. It is stacking up absolutely.
• 20:43
  And it's starting to get really, like, intimidating.
• 20:46
  So just seeing what's in front of you, like what you have to
• 20:48
  deal with. Yo, the point is it worth it?
• 20:53
  All of it, all these questions, you know, especially me as a
• 20:57
  Gen. Zier, my generation, we're
• 21:00
  starting to question everything, you know, everything that's
• 21:04
  normal about society. Like, why is that normal?
• 21:06
  Why are we dealing with that? Why shouldn't it be this way?
• 21:09
  And a lot of us not going to college and a lot of us not
• 21:12
  doing these things, and we're just like, why is healthcare not
• 21:16
  free, right? Why is women's healthcare not
• 21:20
  considered healthcare? You know, just these questions
• 21:24
  that we're asking. And I just cannot wait until we
• 21:27
  get into positions of power and we start doing it our way.
• 21:31
  You know, I really love that because you all came in here
• 21:35
  asking questions. I remember I sat you and your
• 21:37
  sister down and I explained what you know is to come with your
• 21:41
  period and you're going to have to see a gynecologist one day.
• 21:45
  And I do you remember this conversation?
• 21:46
  I do. And when I explained what a
• 21:48
  gynecologist was, I was telling her about a pap smear.
• 21:59
  And this girl was like, what, do they knock you out for it?
• 22:09
  She was like, absolutely not. I'm not.
• 22:11
  They're not doing that to me. Absolutely not.
• 22:16
  Absolutely not. It seems ridiculous, right?
• 22:18
  It does. And then your first question was
• 22:21
  what do the boys have to do? And So what I'm saying is like,
• 22:26
  I didn't ask those questions when I was young.
• 22:28
  You know, it's like I waited for conversations to be had.
• 22:31
  But you are asking these questions.
• 22:33
  You guys are saying, well, where's the there's a disparity
• 22:36
  between genders and with what one gender gets and what another
• 22:41
  gender gets, what other races get and all this.
• 22:43
  So you guys are asking these questions and you're pushing
• 22:45
  back. And so I have a lot of hope for
• 22:47
  what's going on with like the next level of leaders that are
• 22:50
  coming up from your generation because y'all are kind of
• 22:54
  fighters. Absolutely.
• 22:55
  And I dig that. It takes that.
• 22:57
  Raised by a certain generation that were also fighters, and it
• 23:01
  just seems normal. And there's always a moment in
• 23:04
  time over and over and over again when you see this crazy
• 23:08
  friction within a society and then a big change happens and
• 23:12
  we're sort of seeing that and the generation that's kind of of
• 23:16
  age right now is mine. So we might be that big change
• 23:20
  and I'm very excited to see where this goes.
• 23:22
  Yes, you. Know, and you maybe encourage
• 23:24
  other people to do so because, you know, we've, I think we've
• 23:28
  talked about on the show, there's different ways that
• 23:31
  things were accepted in the past.
• 23:33
  And there was, you know, my mom's generation, my
• 23:36
  grandmother's generation, and then mine.
• 23:38
  And you are allowed to evolve and you're allowed to change,
• 23:42
  right? If you know better, you do
• 23:43
  better. And so I try not to hold things
• 23:45
  against people from, you know, it's like there were certain
• 23:48
  things we were saying in the 90s and I'm like, whoa, right, Can't
• 23:50
  believe we said that. But now we know better and we
• 23:52
  don't say that anymore. Exactly.
• 23:53
  And so influencing older generations to to fight and to
• 23:59
  just stand behind the people who are trying to make change.
• 24:03
  And what I'm seeing is that there's not a whole lot of
• 24:05
  people that are like, well, I didn't have it.
• 24:07
  So you don't have to. You know, it's not really
• 24:09
  necessary. They're like, yeah, hell yeah.
• 24:11
  My gosh, of course you should have it.
• 24:12
  Why didn't? We have it exactly.
• 24:15
  You know, certain women who certain women, women who
• 24:18
  couldn't have bank accounts and a credit card.
• 24:21
  And, you know, there was a lot of financial abuse that was
• 24:24
  happening and people having to stay in relationships and
• 24:26
  marriages because they could not leave.
• 24:29
  And yeah, I see, I see a lot of grandmothers telling their
• 24:32
  granddaughters never get married and make sure you always have
• 24:36
  your own money and make sure this.
• 24:37
  And so I feel like it's always been there.
• 24:40
  It's just there was certain voices that were stamped out and
• 24:44
  that couldn't be heard. And so now just seeing how vocal
• 24:47
  everybody is allowed to be. Yeah, it's really great.
• 24:50
  And we're fostering that. It's OK to speak out, it's OK to
• 24:53
  be different. And I really do like that too.
• 24:56
  Yeah, like you see. All of these people of
• 24:59
  different, I don't know, different races, different
• 25:03
  genders, different ways of life, different ways how they grew up
• 25:06
  and they come together and they're all standing for the
• 25:08
  same purpose. And it doesn't matter, you know,
• 25:10
  as long as you honestly respect yourself and respect someone
• 25:15
  else's life as well. Exactly.
• 25:17
  Like no one's asking you to like, force and think the same
• 25:20
  way that I do. But appreciating you and your
• 25:23
  life that you want to live is the base.
• 25:25
  Right. I mean, it's equality, just
• 25:27
  letting you are allowed to have your opinions and everything
• 25:31
  like that. Nobody's saying that you're
• 25:32
  going to get arrested or, or, or killed because of your opinions,
• 25:35
  but it's like, I think baseline healthcare, you know, Yeah.
• 25:41
  Like just the the right to live peacefully.
• 25:44
  I. Mean these are the basic.
• 25:46
  Things basically human rights, yeah.
• 25:48
  And I just like that there's so many voices out there fighting
• 25:51
  for that, for everybody, not just for for themselves.
• 25:54
  Exactly. I agree.
• 25:57
  Oh, look at that. So I started off in this
• 25:58
  conversation hot and a little pissy in the cow.
• 26:02
  Cooled down. Yeah, George is still hovering.
• 26:06
  You can feel him. But it's cool.
• 26:09
  It's cool. Yeah.
• 26:10
  I think as long as we turn George into like AI don't know a
• 26:14
  Mackenzie and then and maybe we can just have a cooler life.
• 26:19
  You know, I like deal with the Hanks.
• 26:22
  The updated version is Mackenzie.
• 26:25
  What's the first name saying that came to my head.
• 26:27
  I'm not even going to lie to you.
• 26:28
  I don't know why. Who is Mackenzie?
• 26:30
  Hey, but Mackenzie, she's like that cool girl who's just going
• 26:34
  to let you do whatever you want to do.
• 26:35
  And she? Has a septum ring.
• 26:37
  She absolutely have this. Because we're cool people.
• 26:41
  OK, Very cool. She has.
• 26:42
  Piercings probably has like green or blue hair you know?
• 26:45
  Absolutely and just. Like you do you, girl.
• 26:47
  We love Mackenzie. We love Mackenzie, yes.
• 26:50
  So once we have more attention paid to women's healthcare, then
• 26:53
  George will become Mackenzie. Absolutely.
• 26:56
  But we love the transition, too, and we accept George for who
• 27:00
  they are. You know it's OK.
• 27:04
  Absolutely. If you want to be Mackenzie, be
• 27:07
  Mackenzie girl. Please be Mackenzie, be
• 27:10
  Mackenzie. I love that, I love that.
• 27:19
  Well, this was a fun conversation.
• 27:21
  It was because I think we need to get these have more of these
• 27:24
  conversations as women, because we are all suffering in silence
• 27:30
  is not great, no, and thinking that you are the only one
• 27:33
  dealing with this thing is not cool.
• 27:35
  And so just know every single woman, we're all dealing with
• 27:38
  these things. We're all suffering, yeah.
• 27:44
  And so it's OK to talk about it of.
• 27:46
  Course, of course it's OK to talk about.
• 27:48
  I mean, you should talk about it, you know, because feeling
• 27:51
  alone in your sadness and in your depression, it's not good.
• 27:55
  In your hurt, it's not good. It's good for community.
• 27:58
  It's like, OK, yeah, let's suffer together.
• 28:01
  But really, let's suffer together because, I mean, two
• 28:04
  people is better than one and five people is better than two.
• 28:06
  Like, come on. I got your heating pad.
• 28:08
  I've got your your, your blanket, your pillow.
• 28:11
  Let's watch some movies. We got salty food, period.
• 28:13
  We're ready, salty. Foods.
• 28:15
  Now you bring that up, I'm actually like a sweet person.
• 28:17
  Really. When I go.
• 28:18
  Sweet. Yeah, I go sweet, I go.
• 28:20
  Salty. I have to go sleep.
• 28:22
  And I'm like, where are all the chips?
• 28:25
  You know, I just. Yeah, like the saltiest.
• 28:27
  Chips. No, because salt tastes weird to
• 28:29
  me. Oh, that's what tastes weird to
• 28:31
  you. Sugar tastes weird to me.
• 28:32
  Really. See, now I'm curious, OK, how
• 28:36
  many of y'all go salty and how many of y'all go sweet?
• 28:38
  I'm very curious. Yeah, seriously and very.
• 28:40
  Do you have weird food things that go on and what is?
• 28:43
  That thing like what food makes you barf after all, right y'all?
• 28:49
  Thank you for coming and hanging out with us and we'll.
• 28:52
  See y'all soon, bye bye.