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Vampires on Leashes - The High n' Dry After Part Special Part II (Feat. Elizabeth Suggs, Author) · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_02: I promised my stream I promised my stream only fan content, but I left the S off purposefully and I'm going to put together a stream of like interesting fan things.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_02: Nice.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um I have like some I have some fans that have like color changing LEDs in them.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna try to I'm gonna try to do something with that that's gonna be fun.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_02: And then uh I've got a surprise that I'm gonna I'm gonna like do the whole fan thing and then come back and my shirt's gonna be off and and it'll be the joke that it was only fans content, but it was at the end of a bunch of fans.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_02: I love that genius.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_02: It'll be a great pun.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like for like real though, like to sleep, I like uh I like to have a background noise.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's a little rumble stuff.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's a good question.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: So so do you like background noise?
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: You say you do like background noise.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: What kind of background noise do you like?
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_02: You like a fan, is like your go-to?
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's my go-to.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: I love a good fan also.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I think that's a good thing.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because if I'm sleeping in a room with anyone, like even if they're on the other side of the room, a very light sleeper, and so if there's no fan, if even if they're deeply breathing and I'm having a hard time sleeping, I'll just listen to them the whole time.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: But if I have a fan, I can focus on the fan.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: So it might be a slight insomniac and slight uh ADHD.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: But well, uh, you know, it sounds like it's just the PTSD from your time in Desert Storm.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so a quick question for you.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: How far are you on that first mule we saw?
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: She finished the first one.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, finished the one.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: And the second one is half done.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: Well, if you wanna oh, so I guess we're watching something after this.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: We could chill for a minute.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna watch a movie.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_01: We could chill for a minute.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh here's here's to you, Liz.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for coming on.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thank you for coming back again.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's been great.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: I know I had coffee last time, so yeah, we remember.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's because I had to drive.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, so do I.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you weren't the first person to do coffee.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: We did have someone who was under 21.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: No, which was crazy.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_01: So he was he was a bigger fish than we thought we would catch, especially that early on in the show.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because he he had done investigative journalism during the whole Portland uh BLM protests, and um he he had stories coming out all the time, and then all of a sudden he's talking to us about who would win between fucking Chewbacca and the scarecrow.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_02: Chewaca versus the scarecrow.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, dude, what are you doing here?
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: What's going on right now?
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_02: Go change the world.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: I I that's why I like your podcast, though.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I mean, anyone can do a podcast and ask questions, but to make it uh unique is it's fun, you know.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you for that.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, right now what I'm doing is I'm pulling out just random philosophical questions that have a number attached to them.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: You didn't um you didn't answer whether you'll we answered that about our background noise.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't done with that question.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I mean Jesus fucking Christ.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh what'd you say?
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um American Dad or Family Guy.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you just have it on in the background.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh okay.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I s I used to be in a relationship with someone who liked the TV on and it was a nightmarish like.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I couldn't do TV, so I'd wake up all the time.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: I turn I've since uh like I've been in those relationships with you fucking monsters and um who sleeps quiet for sleep and I turned it off.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, she would have the fan on the whole time.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: The fan's fine.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: The fan is the fan is not a very good thing.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: What you gotta do is turn the AC on to 68 degrees, you're good to go.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: Unless you live in a cold place, like in Utah when it gets really cold and it's snowing.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: I have my fan on in like the dead of winter.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's long but look, I love a cold evening and when you got the blanket on.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean if you can snuggle up against someone, that's nice.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, you and I would be fighting the whole time about the goddamn fan.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't work.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean we'd get along on the fan.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_02: If we ever have to like share a two-twin fucking hotel room for some conference or some shit, then I enjoy a test conference.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_02: Ryan and I are sleeping in one bed.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_02: He's got headphones on that are blasting family guy at full volume, and he's just laying peacefully.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: Can't handle a fan.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: While you and I, normal people have a fan on in the background to simulate some slight wind.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: But we are the unnatural monsters.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: Seth McFarland is natural.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so anyway.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: Liz, I need you to pick a number between one and two hundred and twenty-five.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: 175.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: Of course you make me scroll.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_01: All right, 175.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know where you were.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: So well, damn.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: Well, interesting.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_01: Get feisty, please.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: Is this gonna induce some feist?
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: This is paid content, you know.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: So the thing is, is like when I um when I do my so I did this right drunk edit sober um event here just like a month or two ago.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: And it was funny because I got I got so drunk.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, is I got the steady drunk where I was very in control.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: But when I get very, very drunk, I start getting kind of bossy.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I see is the beginning, and then I get bossy.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: But like it's you know, it's it's just um, I don't know.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: So if I ever have another right drunk I did sober, you guys are invited.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, definitely.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_00: I would do it.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're there.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're gonna.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you should.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm I when I go to school, I'll be going for a year, but I'll be back in December, and then um, and then I'll be back in like summer and stuff too.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, if you got a if you have a drinking thing, we'll be there.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no problem.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh so oh fuck, god damn it.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: I hate it when I but I hate it when I legitimately listen to someone and I forget what I was thinking.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_03: Oh well, Shaq.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: Listening to people sucks.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_01: Don't do it.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_02: Don't listen to people.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: What's going on?
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I know what you reminded what it okay, so you you conjured up this story from New Orleans.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: James was there with.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: New Orleans is fun.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: I like that place.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there was there was a night where you were just talking about getting drunk and bossy.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: So me and James, we have this mutual friend who at the we were young, we were stupid, we were in New Orleans, we'd been drinking, and our goal had become to find him love in New Orleans.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: And we found this very bookish young lady at I mean, granted, we were at a vampire bar, so that should have told us something.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um Yeah, it was a nerd, it was a nerd convention.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: It was a nerd convention for vampire masquerades.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: Cool, I want to go to a nerd convention there.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so jealous now.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we were at a vampire nerd convention.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: And then afterward Part of this, part of this fucking nerd convention was to go to a bar, and they hired out like fire breathers and stilt walkers and burlers.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: And it was all blood drinking, everywhere it was all vampire themed.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_02: It was fucking sweet.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: There were a shit ton of nerds there, so it's still a little dorky.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like it was it was awesome light because of all the social awkwardness.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, but like you you say it's the socially awkward nerd thing, but the person I'm talking about, so him and I we're these two, at the especially at the time, we're we're two sexually active assholes and are with narcissism out the ass.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_02: I just wanna emphasize that I just wanna I just want you to be careful here because this person in our life was the only other person there, and they're gonna know who you're talking about.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm fine.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: If they ever listen, are you sh are you?
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, totally fine.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: Okay so anyway, um so we find this this this really bookish young lady.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: She seems very tame and tender and sweet, and we're like, hey man, go talk to her.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: She seems right up your alley.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: And he won't do it.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: But then, so when it came time for that fire-breathing clown party with blood drinking and threesums and tattoo artists and what have you, that same bookish young lady had been drinking.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess when she drinks, she gets a little bossy.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: And she comes in with this dude on a leash.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she has him on a leash on all fours.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: And that's how she enters this party, and we're like, God damn.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: We're like, whoa.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: I and his job, his one job was to rub her nipples with cold beer the whole night.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: That totally happened.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: It was really crazy.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_02: She was I I obviously she was playing a part of being bookish, yeah, because that was her character in this in this role-playing.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she was playing a character of a bookish person because a bookish person does not recline with a leashed man rubbing her nipples with a cold beer.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it was sitting there.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: We were all we were just kind of sitting there going, you know, it was crazy books, apparently.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, Nerd's Party Hard.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, she was a fan of Katniss and PETA and yeah, all that fun stuff.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um oh no, she would she would eat PETA alive.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_02: She would have eaten, she would have eaten our friend alive as well.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um she would have eaten him alive.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh good.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: So what was your number?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: 175.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: 175.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Does democracy work for every country?
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um well, that's that's trying to say that if every government uh system could essentially work for every country, because I feel like some government systems work better for others, and not because of the people, because I think some ideas are better in thought than practice, like communism, but I think that it does depend on the culture, right?
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Because democracy isn't going to necessarily work in, I mean, I mean, at least not I mean, Russia's kind of getting to a point of like, and I know they're not, you know, it straight up they're not communist anymore, they're but they're um they're socialist, like they're you know, it's like uh on the verge or something.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, like everyone's honestly it's a fucking oligarchy, and they're closer to like if it was to be a south socialist system, any socialist system, it would be more like national socialism, which is not socialism, which is bad.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: But I feel like they because of their culture, the way that they um they the things that they value, it just wouldn't work there necessarily.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: And um in the same, you know, it's it's just so I don't think democracy works everywhere.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think it has uh the potential if every culture is similar, every everyone has the same ideals, but you know, it it kind of goes back to when we were talking about when you were saying individualism, you know, and you shouldn't be individualistic, you should have the community.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like those two sides are so different that if you tried to have government systems that were the same, you would be like trying to change their cultures, right?
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: So no, I don't think it can.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: There would be resistance, yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: All right, cool.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, James, did you have thoughts or did you want to pick a number?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I have thoughts.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: Go on.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, man, I'm not just a pretty face.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: I have thoughts.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so let's see.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so my thoughts.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: We could see here's here's the argument for just exporting uh US culture and democracy at the same time via missiles.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: You just launch the missiles into a country and give them democracy and a culture that will accept it.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I'm wearing this little green off the shirt number right here.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a perfect point.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's good.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: I just came from work.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: You both have nice shirts.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm, you know, uh, you know, you have the blue, you have the green.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh kind of complimenting.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, we we every morning we get together and we plan it.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: If I was there, I would wear a different color.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: I would I would wear I don't know, what would I wear?
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe like a uh a red or a purple, you know.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um really get the full color palette right there.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: That would be nice.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like uh because we've both got kind of dull, it they're kind of like soft palette colors, dark.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, mine is the this is it looks black, but it's actually dark blue.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I would have no idea.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: It would it this would that would go straight with ours.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: That'd be really nice.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so we'd work out fine.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: We'd work out fine.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that would well we'd all have to wear it.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: We'd all have to wear something sparkly.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: We'd all have to wear it.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: No, we should all wear a disco ball bra.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there you go.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: It'd be like what was that blink 182 video?
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: So this made me just think about it.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm actually going to the Star Trek convention this uh this comment.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking nice and uh yeah so um so I'm gonna dress as seven of nine.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: But I was I've been like looking at all of her things, and it's um so I have this silver full body suit, and uh my okay, it's gonna get explicit right here.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry guys.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: I have big boobs, but they're not big enough for they're fit for the uh the suit.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: So what I ended up doing is and this is there's a reason I'm bringing this up.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: There uh I ended up putting socks inside, and it so it makes it extra big, right?
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so that's what you guys should do too.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: You should have socks in your brain because you all have boobs.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: There we go.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: This is a classic teenage girl.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like we all we all learned this growing up.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Middle school, you realize the moment I realized what boobs were as a child, I was putting socks in my my chest area because I wanted boobs.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: I pushed too hard, okay?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: You found a genie and you were like fuck.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm really making it like grow.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm, fuck.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: All right, all right, right on, right on.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um paid content is cool, guys.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, it's totally paid content.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, we're gonna advertise that.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um well give me give me another number, one through twenty two hundred and twenty-five.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh 50.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: 50.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: 50.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: You're bringing me back into a different section.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so 50.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a reason for life?
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: Breasts.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: Breasts, yeah.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's true.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think we're talking about butts a lot earlier, though.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Boobs and butts.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's the reason.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think also the reason is uh thought, right?
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's consciousness.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I was actually just talking about this with someone yesterday where it's like what we define consciousness as the thing that which we can think and we have inside our minds, but what if there is consciousness in other things, not just animals, but other entities, right?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because what is energy?
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Everything is made up of energy, you know, the sun's made up of energy.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: So what if consciousness is just uh a different version of energy, and so everything has that type, it's just at different levels.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so thought is the reason that's a really nice idea.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: I think that if you know, if that's true, we need to kill everything else out of fear of it t overtaking us.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: So there we go.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, or what if it just likes to be the way it is?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like what if you know the sun enjoys his consciousness and it doesn't want it doesn't want you to kill it, but it's nuke it for sure.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_02: Crossland 2024.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: Nuke sucks.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: I think it has become more intense.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it would help us at all.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_01: The sun isn't in a tent, it's in space.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: People don't care.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: People don't care what happens with the sun.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: People don't know, they don't think about the sun enough.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they're like, Yeah, fucking do it.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see what happens.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'll vote for them just to see.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody's talking about what happens if you need the sun except for me.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that that reminds me, uh, so have you guys seen that?
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's that famous meme of uh the man and the woman sleeping back to back, and she says, I bet he's thinking about other women.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm always on Reddit, and I'm always seeing that, you guys.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we all have I love the one where she just says, I bet he's thinking.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: And then it's him over there as Renee Descartes saying, I think, therefore I am.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: I like that one.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh or there's one where it's like she's like saying, It's like, I bet she he's thinking about other women.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then in his, it's like, why does everyone always read hers when they always know what she's going to say?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like they always solid.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Metameme.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, well, James, outside of nuking the sun, do you think there's a meaning to life?
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: Do I think there's a meaning to life?
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: No, I mean, there's no like I it turns I don't like this question because it's not very it doesn't give any criteria.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know what the what this person is using to judge meaning in life, but did did life start with the intent of having a meaning?
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: No, definitely not.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um and whatever, I don't care.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'll make this gives us an opportunity to make our own meaning.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um and yeah, I like that.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: You create your own meaning.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's I like that.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there is no implicit meaning, it's what you make of it.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, I'm gonna do my best.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, it goes real well, and people don't remember me as a historical dick.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: That would be that would be the worst thing to be a historical dick.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: You nuked the sun just to see what would happen.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't know.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: Things change, people uh, you know, ideas change too.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: So we have no idea what's gonna be.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so hopefully he won't be a dick.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think he'll be a dick.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he actually created a cloud around the sun.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: He saved us from climate change.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the idea that a nuke would do anything to the sun is so absurd.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: Ridiculous.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: So absurd.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: It'd be like a little it'd burn out like a hundred million miles from the sun.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so you invest all of our resources into a missile capable of killing.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's still just yeah.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to destroy the sun.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: I declare war on the sun.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody, this will be the war that defines our generation.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, it would bring all humans together.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: For for the first time, we're not fighting each other.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: I love this.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh fuck.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that's how we defeat global war.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I think then as far as meaning for us, um no, there was none of that nonsense.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that I think that's just uh narcissistic to even think.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, it's like the whole concept of you have, you know, an infinite number of galaxies and light and potential for all this, and someone somewhere is concerned about how often I masturbate.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: It just doesn't make sense.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm concerned.
• 20:00
  unknown: Yeah.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it it just it depends on how often and where you're doing it, on whether someone should be four times a day at work.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: In the bathroom or be just behind the counter.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, where on standing on top of his desk.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: Spraying it on everyone.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, after that, I mean after like the four times.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Someone is going to care at that point.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: At that point, yeah.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: There will be a meeting.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so we have time for one more.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: Who's got a number?
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'll do 96.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: 96?
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta go back to that page.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: I clicked off of it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: You know how these things go.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: This is head-to-toe, back-to-back sleeping number.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's not the sex number.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's not the sex numbers.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's foot to butt.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's foot to but yeah, there you go.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's foot to butt.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Foot to butt, kinky.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's a very it's a it's the platonic inverted sex number.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, all right, so we're in the same hotel room, but there'll be no nonsense.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: But there might be.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: I trust you enough to sleep in the same bed as you, but not enough to trust.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: It is, yeah.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: But not enough for us to put our genitals against one another.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: Not yet, yeah.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: But I appreciate that very, yeah.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Why do we resist doing things that we know are good for our well-being while craving things that are detrimental to our well-being?
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, what we were just talking about.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I I feel like also um we I think that everything well, not everything, but a lot of things that we do has have the potential to be good, but we do them in such like an excess that it becomes unhealthy.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like I mean, I'm not like love doesn't have to be unhealthy, but if you're always going from one person to another, like that's that's unhealthy, right?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like we just it's not that we crave bad things, it's that we crave that dopamine boost.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: We like those drugs, those brain drugs.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: Well, James, what about what do you think?
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I blame Kane for murdering his brother and cursing us all with this sin.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: What if I continued to do?
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um but no, I uh I I almost kind of think of like one person way in the past was it was real shitty about their relationships, and they had like eight children, and those eight children were really shitty about their relationships, and it's just kind of passed down generation to generation.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: These motherfuckers keep screwing us up.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I think that it's a really timeless story of people to be screwed up for long portions of their lives and then come to conclusions that they were wrong.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a very classic um uh human story that people have been contemplating for thousands of years.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: Was the original question?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember anymore.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh why why do we try and do good, but oh, oh, oh, yeah.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: Things that are good, things that why do we do things that are bad for us instead of things that are good for us?
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: Because our because our dad did it to us.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: Our dad beat it into us because it really fucked us up.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: Timeless fucking yeah, he did it with the belt.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was like, he was like, Here's here's issues, enjoy.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna be self-destructive for like I don't know, it's a real roll of the dice.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Fucking talk to your dad, man.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, talk to your dad is the theme of this podcast.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: What the fuck's wrong with you?
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um Witcher.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: We'll splice in some witcher.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then for me, I would say everything just comes down to this inability we have to self-actualize.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the reason why I'm fucking doing a podcast about drinking, because it makes me forget.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think it's like other things, right?
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, there you go.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: And do you do you think part of it is like material needs also?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think part of part of that towards self-actualization, we all have material needs that we need fulfilled first.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then we can focus on self-actualization.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I mean, I think there's just like you know, a long time ago, um, a timeless sandworm told me I could be whatever I wanted to be, and that's just not the fucking case.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: They told you you could be whatever you wanted to be and then hit you when you weren't what they wanted you to be.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_02: You can be whatever I want you to be.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Be what I want you to be.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go downstairs and play pinball.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, oh gosh.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's the after party.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: This is what that's what the after party is about.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: We nailed it.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: We fucking nailed it.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: We nailed it.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: Fucking killed it.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: So there's the after party.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you all for listening.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: Liz, thank you so much for joining us for this fucking ridiculous thing that we do.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna I mean, I invited myself to a third time, so yeah.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so we just love having you on, so it's all good.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if you could though, please send us some personal information so we could send you a shot glass.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: You've been on twice now, it's high time you had a shot glass.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: And thank you again.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: And Elizabeth, say again where we can find you.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, they probably listened to the other uh episode, but this one's shorter, so oh that's true.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: You should go on to if you're on Instagram or on Facebook, go to Elizabeth Suggs author.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's you know, my last name's weird, so it's like it's kind of like the Uggs shoes, like S U G G S, but like with an S in front of the Uggs.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: So Elizabeth Suggs author.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: And then um, or you can go on to ctpfiction.com to submit to some of the anthologies I'm part of.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, or the um editing me, that's editing me.com, and I do editing and reviews on there.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_01: So awesome.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Cool.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Check it out, everybody.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh if you're listening to this, you know where the fuck we are.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: So uh