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Inside the Dolphins’ Cap Crunch: Free Agency, Tua’s Future & What Comes Next | Fish Tank LIVE · The Fish Tank: Miami Dolphins Tales From The Deep

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: you're now diving into the fish team.
• 0:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Here we go, here we go, welcome back to Sitch Tank Live, presented by Van Horlow Group, the Cassabella Design Group, Seth Levitt here, live from the Cassabella Design Group Studios, and the Dolphins talk YouTube channel, and as always, I am joined by the man with the best hands in the live podcast business, he is O.J.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: McDuffie Juice.
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I, I hate to say it every time, but I just get a little, I get jazzed up, man, every time I hear an intro.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you know, what though you came out on queues this time, no, man.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: The last time there was some pause and hesitation, some trepidation, all kinds of big words like mayonnaise that, you know, I mean, before you like, oh, oh, I got it.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: I gotta, I gotta get this thing.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I just thought I was caught up in the moment.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was caught up in the moment, plus I have this thing.
• 1:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we're using this stream yard system.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then I also have the YouTube channel on.
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it was flipping me out, because I was hearing like one team and all this stuff back before, with a call in response.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then I realized, just mute the damn YouTube channel.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: So that was part of the issue.
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: Got it.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: Got it.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: We'll see what we can do.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: I have a hard time believing that you're somebody that couldn't handle all that going on at one time, because I see multi-task, better than most, bro.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I don't know.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you like, and I think you have, like, one of you can hear one thing, another you can hear something else, man.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think you're still good to bring it all together.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: sometimes.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: But clearly that was not one of those times.
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Could I use the old it's preseason for all of us?
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Nah, they were going to kill that.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, really.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like it.
• 2:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, as always, we are joined by our Emmy adjacent producer.
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: He is the Legendary Savak.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Rockin' and Rollin' headband, matching, you didn't go with the all-American headband.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's got all of his colors.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what he's got going on right now, just the orange and aqua.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, sir.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's what he's got.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: Aqua and orange is what it is, big.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: No, but if you start from the top.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know where Chad been horned is.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're not sure, maybe he'll pop up here or maybe we just want to see him today.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: But, since we are being honest, I think he's honest shift right now.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Because he's in diapers.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he's on shift right now, bro.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I was like, did you say shift or did you say, I didn't hear the ding.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I was like, well, he missed my already saying one already.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: So he's like, he's like, he's like,
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's terrible, man.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: Fuck it's terrible.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, what did you say already saying one already?
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: What did you say?
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, I gave you the cue like me, but now you...
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't hear it.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's up to the box.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: There we go.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: That was bad.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: That was bad.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's one, give one and a half.
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, since we are in his backyard, like we cut through his backyard, you know, if you're trying to get to your friends' house and your top defense and cut through somebody's backyard, kind of disrespectful.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: We make sure that we aren't disrespectful.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: We are joined today by Michael Leva of Dolphins talk since we are on the Dolphins talk YouTube channel Mike.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Good to have you back, man.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he's always fun to be here, but Wednesday night have some laughs talk some football as it's about to get real busy for the dolphins here next week or so.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's a big set.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: You talk about jumping.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: I did that growing up, man.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, running through backyards, jumping through over fences and stuff.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: As long as Mike doesn't have a big dog back there, no dog.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 3:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: When you don't know, they got a big dog.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: They're not that we good, then, bro.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, we were jumping this backyard all day swimming this pool, jumping this swing, do all that stuff, man.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know?
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, I used to do that, but then when people did it in my yard, my step dad did not like it.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: He would run off and I'd start to cut some people out, man.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: He'd try and chase people, yeah, and I think that just eggs them on.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: Right, right.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, nobody's coming to my yard, man.
• 4:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: I had big uncles, cousins, you know what I mean.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: You coming to our yard, it could be a problem.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm the only child, but I didn't grow up that way.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Too good.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Too good.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: You would think there's no dolphins news, but there's plenty of dolphins news, where at least there are topics there are things to discuss with the Miami dolphins not always my favorite things to discuss right but there are there are things that that we need to to get out in the open here and and
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: out of there ever since that I don't want to have some for the fate of Jason Cole, but before we get in at any of that, speaking of money, how about the fact that Stephen Ross carbs out 1%.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, you know what I'll do?
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: You want a piece of my team?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll give you a 1%.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: at a valuation of 12.5 billion with a B.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: He bought a team for one billion.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: 12.5 billion with a B dollars.
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: He sells 1% of the Miami Dolphins.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, you guys as shocked as I put her in with a five million dollars dollar Might just had that just sitting around big set.
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know to take care of two is contract.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that day money You know what I'm gonna get you take your money to I just made a back we're good
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: In Ben, Lin Ben is the is the Chinese billionaire who now is a 1% owner.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm wondering like, you know, we've heard the Mark Anthony's in the 30 and the William Sisters, like, do they really, I wonder what what percentage of the dolphins that you have?
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: And did they just get a major come up when they saw the fact that 1% now just sold for 125 mill.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they got in when he got it for a bill, right?
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: So they're, they're different, combined is like, so do that math and carry the one big sense.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: So that means they got it for, they didn't have 100 in the bag.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: Did they?
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I don't know.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, I don't know.
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea what they have.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: What they had.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know if they paid for it, you know, at that point in time, when Mr.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Raw showed the team, the orange carpet that, you know, he wanted to bring sizzle, he wanted it to feel like Miami and, and so having the celebrity minority owners was part of the sexy that he was bringing back to the South Florida, and so I, you know, I really was here.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: care about though and that situation is you know what percentage do I have and what it is and then as you see that go 12 times more than what he got it for now I'm watching my money grow too right I just got that's my point yeah right
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know what, I don't know what any of that means, but I am really curious.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I opening numbers and for a team that has the longest streak of not winning a playoff game in all of the national football league.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now,
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: It includes the stadium, which obviously, world class, you know, event facility, it includes Formula One.
• 7:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, I think people would buy into that as much if not more than that.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: That begins to be right.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's something for someone like him too.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but for someone like him, he's got his foot in the door.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: So if there's a day or even if it's not Mr. Ross, maybe, you know, after he is not here anymore,
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that family puts it for sale, you know, he's he's got 1% he can hold on guys before you put this out there talk to me because this guy's got this guy worked on internet explorer.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: He like inventing so much money this guy's probably got internet explorer.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, I was all over in an explorer.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: So exactly, it could be a long-term play.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, short-term, you're going to make money off.
• 8:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: This even at 1%, you're going to make money off this.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: Long-term, because I got my foot in the door for an NFL team, possibly maybe someday.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: Right, you know, and I don't obviously we don't see any teams going down and value, you know, probably ever.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: They're just going to get richer.
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not a national football league.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I think that I think the Seattle Seahawks are just chopping up the bits in our valuation and what they can do because they're obviously their team is on the market right now too.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I think it's a, you know, I mean, when you, you got to, that's what, that's why so many people want to get in like, like, like, my, they're talking about so many people want to get into the NFL ownership business.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: That network right there is tight knit.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: They're making a ton of money at hell.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: If you're if you're a commissioner makes what does Roger make almost 50 million a year More than a player makes more than a player.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll tell you that.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's no salary cap for comparison.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: No salary cap for him man in the owners loving So I just tell you how much everybody else is making.
• 9:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: Of course we'll get into that.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know the salary cap's off in a minute, man, but I'm saying like
• 9:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's just printing money, man.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: It really is just printing money.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: They thought they'd have some hiccups along the way, but these teams, and they just keep getting reevaluated and they're just making more and more and more money and say, what, man, the fans, that's saying, hey, you know, the boy cotton football, I can't tell.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: Somebody boy cotton football.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's boy cotton.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, boy cotton.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's like, it isn't even closed.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's the national football league.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: At least in this country, and then there's really everybody else.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's just not us being meathead sitting here because we love our Miami Dolphins and we're just saying that and pound on our chest go look at the numbers.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just go look at the TV numbers for for the national football league games and every other sport and it's laughable.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Look at the TV deals.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: They have a chance to opt out now.
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: You would say, why would you opt out?
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: They got the best deal ever.
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why?
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because there's more networks.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's more platforms now.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're going to opt out.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think next year.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And they're going to get so much money when you throw in Netflix might want to package or Amazon might want more or YouTube might want.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: As certain you know, there's gonna be nobody opts out of their TV deals because you sign up for nine ten years and you get a ton of money They're opting out because they're like, yeah, we can get more some more.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're gonna opt up and get more Which is insane and then they're playing games overseas why because they've tapped out every penny in America Let's just play games in Madrid.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: We'll play games in South America.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: We'll play a game at a Wednesday at nine a.m. Who cares people watch
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know what's in there for a buck yeah I'm going to say I'm with those countries are paying to have the national football league bring get it's it's it's incredible It's absolutely incredible so since we're on the topic of money which has not been my favorite topic today But since we are on the topic of money Uh, juice you heard something on the dolphins talk network this week Yeah, and you thought it would be uh something we need to bring to the show tonight
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely, man.
• 11:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, listen to Mike a lot, Mike Leaver, a lot, man, and just on Sunday, I was sitting there listening to, you know, as podcast or listening to ways talking about, bro.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it was very intriguing to me what he was talking about with the additional money that's being added to the salary cap.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: And how the dolphins were below it, you know, that were in trouble with it within the salary cap.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then how we could kind of trim the fact that
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the 11th of plus Eastern.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so that'd be next.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: So that'd be, uh, 10th of 11th is Wednesday.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Wednesday, next Wednesday.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: And so, uh, so Mike, why don't you take it from here, man, and and tell us what, how we can get me compliant and what do you think some of the moves of dolphins could should or probably will mate moving forward?
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so right now they are salary cap compliant, because they announced the cap over a week ago.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think like 10 days ago, and it was like 301 point.
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: 2 million.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: So right now they are 770,000 under the cap.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're compliant.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now we all know you ain't buying a bag of peanuts in the NFL for 770,000 dollars.
• 12:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: You ain't signed a nobody for that kind of money because that's not a lap, but they are compliant.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: And there's a couple easy and I say easy because it ain't me.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Easy moves they can make to open up salary cap space.
• 12:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: Number one would be if they caught Jason Sanders that opens up roughly
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, Jason Sanders is great, but Riley Patterson was a pretty good last year, and, you know, he's far cheaper than someone like Jason Sanders, and I think that's probably a move where as much as you're like Sanders, you can get the same type of production for less money.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I think Jason Sanders would probably be someone who in the next few days or a week or so might not be on this team anymore.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: The next one, because he's a great guy and everyone loves
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: In gold, if they move on, that's three million bucks.
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know that's right.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: We can say, let's say your piece.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know it's three million bucks for team that's got no cash face though.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's that can sign a couple other guys in.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's not that full back certain port and button, you know, when you got like nobody in your second there.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: So they're in the league.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: How many of you guys are free?
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's a San Francisco.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's about it.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: But they're important in this offense.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: They're all the old offense they were in for it.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, but it's Bobby's law.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not your only thing.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: It may or not be.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's the box of the sleep over there, man.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's a lot.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's a thing.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, ask you this.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Could you play Julie and Hill is an H back sometimes and have him be your full back?
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: No.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: Or someone like that may be not Hill exactly.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: But listen, you can't come in here talking
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: want and guys that love football and having the right guys in the room and and culture and all of that.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Alec Engold is as important in that locker room as he is on the field.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: For three million people, they cut my ass.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Don't give me that.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: For three years, I just, you know, someone said my name three times, so I've appeared.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to San Francisco.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Feudal too good.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just look, we saw it.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: I understand what you're saying.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just saw that you do this with Andrew Van Ginkle, a couple of years ago.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you got a good player who still has miles left on it, right still has threads on the tires and is as important in the locker room as he is on the field.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think they felt the law significantly.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's an edge russia compared to a fullback.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: Go ahead.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: I continue my- That's right.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: And not that fullbacks are important.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: But again, first off.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: We could all blame Chris Greer for this at the end of the tale.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, right on this, Matt, does he John Eric Sullivan's fault?
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Is he my fault and crystal messenger?
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: This is who some of the guys are probably likely caught out with you, Seth, and a form of a girl, because I think HN was so great last year, a big part of it was a alkengal.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: But when you have 770,000 under the cap, you've got to make some tough decisions.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I think full back might be one.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, we can debate whether he's shooters.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think the tough decision is to keep a mic.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the tough decision.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, then let's weather people go.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: And here's another name that my name is.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm plopplers.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I think might be let go is linebacker Tyrell.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's in which opens up roughly another $3 million.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's great last year.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: You've been great since you've been in Miami.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: But again, linebackers, you're in nickel so much because the past half of you leave, you're always in, you know, these, you know, lots of secondary players on the field, you need to pay Tyrell.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's in three million.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was what you have nobody in your secondary right now.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think he's a name.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're probably going to treat me now.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: If they treat them now, they can take that one up to the draft, because they probably want to wait to see what the offers are.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: But that opens up $6 million.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: So again,
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, six million would make up, let's say Ingle for now, just for argument six, three, three million here for Tyrell, nine, that's 12, four million here for Sanders, you're at like 16, again, is it the most money in the world?
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, but it's at least gives you a chance to sign a few players, even if there are a few role players, which John Eric Sullivan, I think he said it is combine interview.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're not going to go out there and spend big, but you know, he would like to add
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: Malik Willis, I don't think it's gonna happen, but he's not the reporting on this, talk about smoke screen season is a week or two back 30 to 35 million, maybe even 40.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now it's like, wow, maybe it's 20 to 25, like if his number comes down to a point where they can like, we can make this happen.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think they're gonna want this sadly kept space, and I'm sorry, Elk, England, they're gonna stop them, okay.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's all said.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: The rest structure.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: You can't get rid of him.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's got to be part of a lot of the deals too, right?
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: Mike, there we got him.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Jordan Brooks could get an extension lower his cap number.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Aaron Brewer could get an extension lower his cap number.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: A chain could get an extension.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: His cap number so small.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's on a rookie deal, but it might lower it's some or it might not even touch it.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: But they could.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: you know, pay him now and lock him up long-term.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: So, yes, extensions, deck sealer is someone who could get one as well, lower his cap number.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think they want to give one of Austin Jackson.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: He has no incentive to do it though, but I don't know they want to cut him because they can't cut everybody.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: So, Austin Jackson's going to be an interesting one.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: They could reach out.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I would call a tim before I tossed angle.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I would do there.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: One guy shows up and plays.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: If they cut, if he was a post-June first cut, they would save $11 million, which is substantial.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: The problem is you only allowed two.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: One of them is gonna be the quarterback, we all know it, and Chob, they haven't announced it yet.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: If they ever could find a way to trade to then your two post-June first would be Chob, which opens up a 20, or and Austin Jackson was sent opens up 11, not till June, but that's big money you can take it next year even into all that stuff.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a jolly loud too.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think they'll do it with Austin Jackson.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: And the child one, if they cut them now, pre-June 1st opens up 7 million, if they do a post-June 1st opens up like 20.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's why they haven't said anything yet, because I think they kind of hope if someone will trade for Tua, then we can do him and Austin Jackson post-June 1st, but I don't know if that's going to happen.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I think child will be post-June 1st, and I think Austin Jackson is going to be here for one more year.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: One more year.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: So how much really play in that one year is a different story.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he's going to be under contract for one more year.
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: So bubble is a great question.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why make all these cuts just to sign Willis?
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, and I hear what you're saying.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're going to reach trouble with that deal.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because you can structure that deal anyway.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: You want to push the big cap pit to the year two.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you will have some similar cap space.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was waiting to get creative.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not saying they're going to sign Willis.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: I actually think they won't.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think they're going to make push for them.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I think what I'll send them down they won't.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we're going to get into the quarterbacks in a second, but I think the overarching theme here is that we heard there's a name that we heard a lot this off season.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we heard this name as part of the core structure that would be leadership in this team.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: We heard this name as somebody that was a part of the interview process.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not talking about Troy Eggman and talking about Brandon Shore.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: And this, all of the things that you're discussing, like this is the time for him to make his money, right?
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: There were a lot of irresponsible deals that we've talked about over the last few, Chad B.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, I just can't, I can't, we'll see how I love it.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: So there are a lot of interesting things that, that, uh,
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: that happened with these contracts and it just seems like all the blame has gone to, you know, the general manager in the former head coach and, you know, so Brandon, I guess, had a sharp and pencils and figure out how to do the things that those guys wanted to do is what we can, I guess, kind of take away from that, but these, these suggestions that you're making Mike, this is his time to get that figured it out.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah absolutely I mean this is why he's here and this is why he's in this role and I think he got a little bit of a Promotion with this new re-org so he has more of a voice I would say and how much we don't know But you probably don't have a voice to maybe like put the brakes on if he sees something that's not
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: like wise, but I think these guys from what they say, they're both from the Green Bay Packers.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: They don't.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: That team is never thrown around a month.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: They will for a Reggie White or Mike a Parsons every now and then.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: But outside of the interview.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: Outside that, they're pretty much draft and sign your own.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: They don't go out there and spend money in March like all these other teams or like we have.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't think if that's going to be an issue, it's just getting through this next year or two to flush out the bad contracts, to get to a spot where it's like we're going to help the spot.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now we can operate like a normal football organization type of deal.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it's going to take a little bit of pain.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to go pain.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it stinks that big Saturday week.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: We don't get any money for your boy Liam, man.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: I know you were impressed all week about Liam being, you know, I mean, I know that's your boy and everything, man.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, tell us, you know, tell us a little bit about how you feel and about your boy Liam, not coming back to being there.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I came around on this issue.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Like, since you like to do it, you know, in the orange and aqua, Liam coming back and the orange and aqua, not coming back.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I just have to guess that Liam is just not healthy enough to play, right?
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's he didn't play all last year and that guy fought through a lot.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: He was a warrior.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know he was definitely a favorite of fans when they were looking for someone to, you know, he had a bull's eye on his back and there's the classic meme of him just leaning
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: I hate to say it.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got more out of him than you did some other people that played on that offensive line and and two years ago or snaps out of him.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you got more out of it.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, because that's when Connor goes down, Liam had never taken a snap as as a center in his entire life, and, you know, he survived.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: And so to get off him, I'm going to tell you guys this big assessment, like Melancholy Melancholy.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's all been about Liam y'all man.
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's been about I'll say there's two and he just said and they just said because last year when they resigned him and you know I was shocked the extra.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was absolutely floor the extra resigned them There's a lot of people in the media.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: They know he's a good backup.
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: You can play all five spots.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: Do you please them all badly?
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: You don't play any of my good.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't care if you can play all five you can play the reason he moved around so much because you couldn't find one spot where he excelled I understand 233 he's stepping at center in a pinch and he held his own but you know outside of that what month I mean this time of Miami is you know not gonna be remember finally
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, I mean, he's unfortunately going to be in that Jesse Davis category, you know, that's where he is and, you know, I say it a little facetiously, but at least he showed up to play.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I cannot stand.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: You had a guard that you signed for whatever the prize of free agency last year and he played three flippin snaps and never saw the field again and you know, we saw what Dave Hyde reported about his injury.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: He never had a surgery, you know, a pectoral strain and you can't get on the field for the rest of the season.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: And excuse my friends, it was hard me to wipe my ass with it.
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: But you tore it.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: He didn't tear it.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's got to be sometime.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: It was a slight tear or something.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: You never hurt the word tear.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: We can't hurt the word tear.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: We can't hurt the word tear.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: We can't hurt the word tear.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: We can't hurt the word tear.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: We can't hurt the word tear.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: But if it's already, you may have it.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, one little boy.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: He made a business decision.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't need to go back out there on this team.
• 24:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he made a business decision real early.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: Made a South Beach decision.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's my tell you.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: I tried to tell you, I'll bring these dudes down here to South Florida on South Beach with a pocket full of money.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's too much.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's too much.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: But that is my point is that you didn't have that issue with Liam.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's all I was about to relocate.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: If you could take leave out of Florida.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: take Liam's heart and put it in.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: To rust this.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Him or even someone like Austin Jackson's body, you'd have a great player.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because Austin Jackson is a guy who's just never on the field either.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, nice guy, but.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's the thing about it, though.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's that's the thing about it.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: Some guys get over on heart.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: Some guys get over on talent.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: Some guys got both.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: Those are probably your best players ever.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: But it's hard for some guys that have have all that in them.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: They become great players, man.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: So, you know, the fact that Liam has heart, which fucked that heart.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, what happened, Jews?
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: I want, I love me, but I need, I need talent on the field.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not crying, I'm not dying on the Liam's sword, okay?
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I think we're blowing this out of proportion.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying that I am more offended by someone who's 26, 27 years old and in tip-top shape and it's supreme athlete and they can't stay on the damn field.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's all I'm saying.
• 26:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's all I'm saying.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: There was a good, a good question that came up and I asked all you guys this
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: that's figured out, I think it's Miguel.
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: HN, the HN situation alone, like, you know, there's all kinds of rumors about possible trade or re-up, Mike, Seth, Savak.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, HNs are MVP last year.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: Everybody can argue Jordan Brooks on the defense side of HNs are MVP last year.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: If the right situation happens, what do we do about an HN situation if we get a great offer for it?
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: If it's a first round pick, I'd be tough to say no.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now that I don't like each and I love each and we all love each and love each.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Here's a deal, you also have to factor in, for running back, he's a smaller size guy and if you give him a three or four year type extension, probably four, will he hold up over the four years?
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like Chris Greer in the past would have probably just mean the high front and back in the league and then
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, six months later, he's hurt and so you got to think this stuff through and they have options with that not look if you don't give him an extension, you're going to show for camp, but he ain't going to participate because his agent then tell him you ain't stepping on that field until you get a new deal because you're finally your best deal.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: They can play hardball with them.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: and may come show it one more year.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if Johnny or someone wants to do that though, or they can give it an extension now.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's not outrageous, maybe, but it's fair.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's what will happen.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: But Johnny or Sullivan said at the combine, he was so transparent, it was so refreshing.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, he said,
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Not looking to trade, water, or A-chan, but if you send me an offer, I like.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, you wouldn't even slam the door on it.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I think a team and a team, well, they just treated this week.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Houston was a team I thought might be interested, so they treated with a line for running back.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: If there's a team of handsome and has a first-round pick, I'm not going to, you know, hand them away for nothing, but a first-round pick, a first-round pick.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, you have to, and plus we got Jalen right was pretty good at the end of last year.
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll leave Gordon for a rookie with pretty good.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's a one area.
• 28:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: We got a little bit depth actually.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: So you have to consider it, but it's got to be a fair deal.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and speaking about it, Gordon, real quick, makes sense.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't realize how big that dude was, man.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, at the Dolphin Cancer Challenge this weekend,
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: He looked like a lineback from me.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that's a big cat right there, bro.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's amazing because he was standing beside Terry Kirby.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: He was a big running back back in the day.
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: He was a little bit bigger than Terry.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Really?
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: He was bigger than Terry.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: Really?
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: He was like a slightly taller, a little bit bigger than TK.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: And he didn't.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: I was like.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we can all hoot, man, not every time I have any handles, but I'm sure we can, you know, drive it, everybody can dump everybody can dump everybody right now.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: Everybody on a football team can dump.
• 28:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: Riley Patterson.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's got hops.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: You got the legs, he's got to have pops, right?
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, fair.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: There are points.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but yeah, but the whole HN thing man isn't just fascinating, you know, we have to build somewhere on this team, right?
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: We have to build somewhere on this team and I think that HN is done.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: But my thing to about HN is that if we don't do it now, and he has another season's gonna cause us too much next year.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's gonna pass a lot more.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: If he, if he, if he caused us a lot,
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and I think they I think James Cook with the bills got like 40 years, 48 million, 30 million fully guaranteed something like that.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll top my head of care and remember exactly, but so he's probably looking at something like that or something in the neighborhood of that because he's like the same type of player.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I would say is James Cook, so if it's that, I think they'll pay them, but again.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, they said in that these people, we know that we're not trained tons of, we're not trained tons of, but if a team keeps calling and keeps up in their offer, you will get to it.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're a real deal.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, of course, sure.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if it is a just silly deal that's in your favor, then I get it.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I understand that this is a team that really is starting over whether people want to use rebuild, retool, whatever.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: they're starting over and trying to undo the damage that is done.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: The damage that gave them the opportunity of a lifetime for them to get their dream job.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I like that they used to turn building blocks.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's certain players, you can't talk about, we want to, you know, draft guys and then build our own and you can't do that.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then get rid of a guy who's that young and that talented, not explosive and that unique and the league.
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't see how you look at this.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: Unless your game is going to be about guys like Jalen Wright and Ali Gordon, a big backsist, who we don't know.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: You say I know what it's got, you know, the ties with Mike, but you don't know what we don't know what is going to be running and what kind of
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: I bet I bet it won't be all that quick stuff, I see how I change that, it won't be all that quick, all the time stuff that we've run to protect you and get the ball.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to find ways to get it to our guys quick, but there's going to be some situations down the field, smash.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: These guys want to play smash, small football.
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's what we're looking at with this with this with what half and and where we want to, you know, play our play football for the dolphins moving forward and I think that that's going to be some big guys downhill, that's you want to come to like, you know, you know, November December, hopefully in the January, you know, there might be a more of a big back offense, who knows.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: Who knows, we'll see.
• 31:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'll be out there for some of those, some of those events and OTAs when they allow me, you know, well, let's just talk about that real quick.
• 31:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: We don't let me out through any more of some part of the media.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not, I act hard, blanch, man.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: So this might be my last week on the show, y'all.
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: I might be, I might, y'all.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Wait a second you're going to you're going to drop the fish thing just like the OTA you spent your whole career Not wanting to be at OTAs and now you're going to drop the fish thing I can sit in the shade have a drink always watching he ain't got to be out there running around
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: whatever, bump that.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: They need to don't get me started.
• 32:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: Don't get me started.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Don't get me started.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: So all right.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's talk about the elephant in the room.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: You dressed it earlier.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: My, we talked about the quarterback position.
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: So Adam Schepter reports that the dolphins will probably, and quotes, probably released two of by this time next week.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, it's I think everybody just it's kind of inevitable that it's not a matter of if but when right, but this time next week.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is there a time for reflection, do we save it for this time next week?
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is that what the show's about next week?
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, do we think about the fact that we talk about Austin Jackson, Austin Jackson and two are the only two people left from that draft, that where you got that haul for Lermy Huntsle, Lermy Huntsle, and, and it's just, um,
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is, have we seen an athlete fall this far, this fast, other than Tua, like I can't even think of anybody in this market that was that beloved and and at the top of this game right top 100 player.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: led the league and passing you know all of those things and here we are and and a lot of the two of stands right want to get rid of them He he he did a lot of things with a microphone in his hand that turned fans off and it just was it was shocking to me to see both from a talent perspective and just the way he was perceived by a fan base and internally
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, got benched for crying out loud.
• 33:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: He got for the flip and benched for a 7th round draft pick.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: The ball, the ball in the past.
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, I'm the field.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: We've seen guys who have gotten to a high point and then sort of fall off the cliff.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think I'm the field that stuff happens.
• 34:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's guys who are kind of a flesh and a pan lightening in a bottle.
• 34:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: It happens off top of my head with
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: this team, I can't think of one per se, but one name that came into mind in the NBA, however many years ago was Jeremy Lin, came on the scene, great for a year to then kind of hurt from again.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it does happen in sports with two, it was the off-to-field stuff.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it just got with the press conference says he fumbles a snap he's blaming you try to do it and so we do And you're sitting all the time he's going after the fans he's done then he's complaining this past year about the whole fans it was too loud he's blaming the fans
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: they can't run their offensive home.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, maybe even stink.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: They won't be boon you so much.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
• 34:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's that aspect of it.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Be through teammates under the bus, had to walk it back at times.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: So some guys are, you know, um, first you went up for meetings on time still.
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, that's where I think he lost even his die hard fans.
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's not so much with the play.
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: And even I thought what he did, the one thing I thought that really rubbed me the wrong way.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: he and Brian Flores did not get along and that whole thing was just ugly.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: But when Flores left and he went on the laboratory show and just ripped him, it's like it's over.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's gone.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: You won the battle.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why are you doing this?
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: You didn't need to be done.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's like stuff like that often field kind of showed his warts a little bit and some fans took longer to get there.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: But that's what it's like.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, if you're not going to perform on the field, we don't need to put
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and I think for I think for two of honestly, you know, he showed a lot of amazing promise and I think once people feared out, you know, Mike's offense, he became ineffective, but two was injuries, I say this two was injuries really really
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: slowed him down more than he was already, you know, a slow quarterback.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: Now, as mine at times was very, was very good, you know, he read defense well.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's, it's a just patient was incredible.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: But then when that was gone, we already know he was a mobile.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: Then that means that he has, what, what superpower did to a half after that?
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: He had no, it's ability to read defense, look them off, no looks, you know all this stuff.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: That was his superpower because his arm wasn't as strong as his mobility wasn't the best.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: But once he lost all that, then he had nothing left, man.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I think that's just an accumulation of all that was going on with him.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: Mentally, you know, the head injuries possibly, his body was breaking down, everything that was going on for him.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's why, you know, I think the decline was so swift with two of.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I think, honestly, and I don't notice for a fact, I don't think you have the most productive all season last year in terms of getting ready for this upcoming season.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, you know, it's
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: especially these guys.
• 36:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know why they don't get it, man.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: Social media is a beast when it comes to putting these guys in his best situations on boats party and out kicking it all the stuff and then you come back and things just aren't very good for your football team when you get back.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, our number one job, honestly, and we all know this is the play ball.
• 37:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's plenty of time to kick it.
• 37:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: A lot of code to say, yo, you can kick it up.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: You can go wherever you want, do whatever you want when you retire.
• 37:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, some of these guys know that they want to kick it all.
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: We have to OTA the training camps and things like that.
• 37:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I was one of those guys, but damn it, I showed up in shape all the time.
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: I showed it right at ball all the time.
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I just love, you know, I love the game of ball.
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it was just about the money.
• 37:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, because I was at one point, you know, I was one of the top 10 guys that was getting paid on the team that, you know, where the team could put out insurance policies on case you got there, they could put in insurance policies out there to cover your contracts, but at point I just wanted to play ball, man, and sometimes I wonder how many these dudes just don't love the game, like they need to love the game.
• 37:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think two of loves the game or otherwise he would have shut it down a while ago.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: But I think this body is mine, everything else.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: It started to decline and want him a little bit.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: And when that happens, what do you have to lean on?
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think I don't think two of us has an all-speed pitch or anything that he could throw to get people out.
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know?
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, great stuff, Jews.
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I also want to ask him to talk about loving the game and for a guy who played as long as you did.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I feel like you don't get there without loving the game.
• 38:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the people who don't really love it, they get exposed and you start to figure out who they are quickly.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: But at some point, guys love Sundays, but they start to love the process less.
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if it's fair to say, but it did not look like two of us has invested in the process and you kind of indicated that what you would just say in terms of his Aussies and what have you.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so look, he got generational,
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Generationally changing money that he was paid is that the reason that things changed I don't know if that's fair or not, but you know some of that perception is there But I just I just wonder how much yeah, I love the game I love to compete on Sundays at one o'clock But everything that it takes to be elite at that point.
• 39:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, do I still love that?
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Am I willing to make those sacrifices and I don't know?
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, I say it all the time
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: you know I say it all the time man there's only two fun days in football and that Sundays and pay days man you know the rest the rest is a beast man it really is man I mean all seasons a hell of a grind you know and back in a day you know these dudes had other jobs they were bankers they were car salesmen they were insurance salesmen you know now it's 24-7 when it comes to you know football preparation and being ready for the season and you know and you have to do that in order to be able to play in a 17
• 39:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: coming to 18 games season, you know, the preseason with three games, hopefully you play all season.
• 39:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: You look at a 20-some games.
• 40:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's a grind.
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: And if you don't prepare in the all season all the time for that, you're going to be in a lot of trouble now.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: I remember going on vacation my boys, but we go to Cancun, but every day I was running and working out.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's no window where I was weird there for for 10 days running and working out every single day.
• 40:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't care what time we got in, don't talk about it.
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't care what time we got in from whatever club it might have been.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, you know, drinking Corona's loaded, you know, me and it was just, but the same time no man get my butt up, run every day, find get to work out in every day because I never wanted to fall behind that.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: And a lot of guys, there are a lot of guys that really take working out seriously.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: And, you know, I didn't like lifting, but I was running all day, you know.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, come guys, you know, but I'll lift the maintain, you know, I just got a maintain except that my position, some of the big guys in the trenches, they got a really lift this hard and they got a maintain strength and they got to take it a lot of calories.
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, we wish you a lot of big linemen now that are half their sizes, you know, the policy twins, you know, the Tim Ruddy, look at those guys now, you see, you guys play what you play old line and what way they're attracted to themselves right now because they have to maintain so much for most guys, man, they really go out there and, you know, they got to take that all season serious and continue to grind and or to stand the league for as long as you can.
• 41:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: You're not going to make this kind of money anywhere else, you know, I mean, that's your
• 41:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, you guys like that.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: You're not gonna make this kind of money anywhere else.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: So, hone your craft, take care of yourselves, man.
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: Fight through it, and then show up the next season.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like in my opinion that I didn't see two in the best.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: He could have got, we needed two of the be at least as quick as he was.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I think two have got slower.
• 41:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yep, you know.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: And every aspect of the game, every aspect of the game was slower for two and that hurting last year.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: and hurt not just him, but it hurt the entire organization.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, tea.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Some people who had jobs and don't have them anymore, you know.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I mean, all of that, right?
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: All of that was tied to it.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's the kind of the epic flow of a franchise.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's why they're called franchise quarterbacks because so much is resting on their shoulders.
• 42:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I agree with your whole heartedly on that.
• 42:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: What do you guys make of?
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I probably should be when bring this up.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: the non-birthday wish.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's my fault.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: I tried to tell you.
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got a good, I tried to tell you.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
• 42:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: What do you want to say?
• 42:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 42:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got a good one.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did research.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll say.
• 42:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: Somebody asked.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, we're talking about two of his injuries.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: And of course, I had an injury.
• 42:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: So my ass about my turf toe.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: on the chat I saw a big set and you know obviously that was a sort of subject for me and I'm literally and figuratively you know three surgeries later and I've never get it right and I'm ordered to go out to and play a wide receiver but now you know I cycle a little bit walk a lot, can't run, can't cut, can't jump, I can't jump at all man.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: I said you were going to have a big set.
• 42:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: I do.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: See man, people don't believe I had hops back in the day, Mike and that's the vibe.
• 43:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: I believe that's hopped back to the day.
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's gonna be part of my try to tell y'all too, but anyhow, let's talk about some hops, but yeah, but you know, the toe is what it is and it's, you know, I'm glad I think it helps my injury I think is helping a lot of the guys that had toe injuries, I know they've all a lot of guys that went through the same doctor I went to, say the way from one doctor I went to about toes.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: same thing to have with bow Jackson and hips, you know, guys learn a lot from the hip injuries from bow Jackson injury, and I learned from like my injury and beyond Sanders had kind of same injury and so on and so forth.
• 43:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: So, you know, nowadays men, they're actually, especially with Mike was here when guys were having a problem with certain things.
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: They were getting that time off.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: They needed some guys took advantage of that, and I was one of those guys that actually didn't take advantage of the situation because that was, you know, just a whole different story,
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: Jack, that girl said, that's how it's good.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: If you tell me it's good, it's good.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's good to kick somebody now, it's the one.
• 44:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: there we go.
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I like the bottom line.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, let's good.
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like when you're a bottom line guy, you Penn state.
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's like to be bottom line guys.
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: There it's Eddie Saw my house.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: You hear that?
• 44:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: There it's Eddie Saw my house.
• 44:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, and then real quick, I guess a bit of news and I see some people are putting in the chat.
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: But John who Smith gets released by the Steelers.
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: I did a cat casualty.
• 44:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: And everyone lost their damn minds when when that decision was made.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, the dolphins won that trade.
• 44:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: That wasn't a job I tried to tell y'all a while back.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we're going to, there's been a lot of piling on Chris Greer.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, I guess if that still makes people feel good, and don't, I'm not going to sit here and defend Lee and Mike and Bergen, Chris Greer on the same show.
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I do believe.
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: I do believe that the dolphins won that trade because they still have, they have a tradable asset in Mink of Fitzpatrick and potentially have a guy that could bring some better and leadership to a defense, you know, half is a, is a, right, defense coordinator, you can talk that language, maybe if he feels like he needs, if they can find a way to keep Mink and make it worthwhile for the team.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, they still have an opportunity to do something with the player as opposed to the decision that the stealer just made with Jono.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is there a world for Jono Smith to come back and play for the Miami Dolphins?
• 45:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, I mean, probably not because they want to go younger, I mean, they want to get young.
• 45:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't.
• 45:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly right.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think we probably addressed the tighted position a little bit in the draft.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: I like don't you.
• 45:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: You're doing the way to get him back.
• 45:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: They have to resign.
• 45:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, right.
• 45:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's a you.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know.
• 45:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: I love he see don't she's back.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I think that'd be great.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: I know Hayden Rucci's out looking for employment.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: He's got some visits.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: I talked to his dad the other day.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: I played with dad, Ty Rucci at Penn State.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: So a position, you know, Julian Hill is probably going still going to the Rossi, you might be a guy.
• 45:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, they want to run the footballs.
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: A guy you want to keep involved.
• 46:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: So they'll go out and get some guys.
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: But John knew probably would not be, you know, guy they'd bring back in the fold here.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, fair enough.
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to get it to try to tell y'all.
• 46:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: I got to run this by you guys and has absolutely nothing to do with the Miami Dolphins or anything else, but I just saw this on Twitter.
• 46:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it will, you know, these little AI videos, but it had these classic.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: television and movie vehicles that they would show them and then they would like turn into transformers.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it was the general lead.
• 46:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was the 18 van.
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was the old 60s Batmobile.
• 46:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was Starsky and Hutsch's vehicle.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was all of that.
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I want to ask you guys if you have a favorite and all-time favorite vehicle.
• 46:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: from television or film if you have one of the chat drop it in here.
• 46:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's the end of mine.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: I still got it here because I sent you a picture not too long ago.
• 46:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know we got the same one like mine.
• 46:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just the same one.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: And there's one of these for sale.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: And set myself actually chatted about.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's go have spend half the year with you and South Florida.
• 47:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Half the year up here with me and Syracuse.
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: We'll figure it out somehow.
• 47:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know how they post those things and like I'm not gonna brag if I win a lottery But there will be signs and people have like the castle grace goal in the note They would have a I would have a fully tricked out 18 B.A.
• 47:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Barocca's van that is mine So Michael we when I are on the exact same one.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hey love the 18 love Mr. T. That was he was the biggest the biggest dude in the Like he was the guy in the 80s and I was a guy He was the best yeah
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I had to have the Mr. T-Series.
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, what was your whip?
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is a tough one, so I'm kind of torn, because a part of me wants to lean towards kit from Night Rider.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: Good one.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know one.
• 47:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Another part of me wants to say the Delorean from back to the future.
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's a, yep, yep, yep.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: I like the Delorean, too, from back to the future, but I really, really love Pinky's limo, you know,
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: I wanted to be in the, in the wide with pinky, you know, pilling that curve, you know, to me and spilling this, spilling this drink, man.
• 48:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, that's, that's what I want to be, man.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: But I was really thinking that Deloria, you know, back to the future that that right there with Michael J.
• 48:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Fox, pretty dope.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was just curious when you guys were at.
• 48:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I saw it.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I had to keep it realistic, I would take, uh, probably the, do you remember the orange Toyota Supra that Brian drove in the first fast and furious movie?
• 48:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't get into that series.
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to be fast and fierce guy.
• 48:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: I have to admit I'm just now.
• 48:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, there we go.
• 48:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the one.
• 48:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, you actually have it.
• 48:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: So by the way, our guy Emilio from Mexico is it just sent me, he's got quite a collection of model cars.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, well, you got everything.
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: The general leaves in there.
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: But he's got the Flintstones with vehicle for the store in Ghostbusters.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is sick.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: The mystery machine with the Scooby-Doo crew.
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then of course, yeah, there's the Mach 5.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he does have the 18 and B.A.
• 49:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Barak is the stand on the outside.
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Pity a new fool.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the Mach 5.
• 49:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: What an answer that was there.
• 49:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: Let me a car that we've gotten from them because they said, I got a few of them sitting around here.
• 49:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: So Emilio makes these custom little matchbox cars, and he's made a few different fish tank ones, and they're absolutely spectacular.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for sending this brother.
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is incredible.
• 49:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: So love it.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, well, what that we're going to roll into it.
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's the big T's.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it juice just want to go get some.
• 49:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: We lost them.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think you want to go find a car.
• 49:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me down one.
• 49:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we got juice.
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, show you my cars, y'all.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: All right, so we got this bad boy.
• 49:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's nice.
• 49:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: We'll truck.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's fair.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: And we got another truck, 81.
• 49:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh dang, those are nice.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're sweet.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then.
• 50:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're doing the paint job myself on that.
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's pretty cool.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's all a million.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's a bad boy right here.
• 50:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Awesome.
• 50:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: In the game, that's a tank logo.
• 50:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, there we go.
• 50:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I see it.
• 50:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: I do see you on the cast.
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe hookin' me up, man, my cars, bro.
• 50:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then of course you guys, you know, I'm not gonna pull that out.
• 50:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: My birthday present.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: My my clearance that I got from my birthday.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: We saw it on social media.
• 50:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: So, I mean, all right, I will, I can't agree, you know, it's, it's big.
• 50:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: Girl, the nose.
• 50:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: So, I want to even bring it out.
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: See, I've got more to, it's like, we could do it entire, then, entire, and on that.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: You need to grow up to rock.
• 50:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: You need to grow up to rock.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: You need to grow up to rock.
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: You need to grow up to rock.
• 50:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Don't grow up.
• 50:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, I, I think we should do one of these, but probably not now.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, let's hit it with it.
• 50:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it and I try to tell y'all, we'll get everybody out of here.
• 50:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Although we drink it the late night crew that comes in.
• 50:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, that's right, man.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: Great great group, man.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's also new names and new people in their man.
• 51:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: So good stuff.
• 51:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: One more time, big shout out to that figure it out, you know, my shirt and you guys look at their check them out on social media, man.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: And you know, us dads, you know, we need to be recognized sometimes as as being good guys and good people and as a nice school community and nonprofit that works for these guys.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it's really, really cool.
• 51:21
  [SPEAKER_07]: And so everybody
• 51:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: I tried to tell y'all that numbers at the combine and Indianapolis, ready to walk, don't mean shit.
• 51:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's a meanless way to use in your draw, doing things that any great athlete can do, and look good doing it.
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: The 40, defense press, the shuttle, the vertical, what does all that mean?
• 51:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: What does a fast 40 means you can't catch the ball?
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: What does a fast 40 mean if you're afraid to go over the middle?
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: What does a fast 40 mean if you can't or unwilling to block?
• 52:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: It means jack shit.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: The vibe.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's a joke.
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: I would never want to use that football game.
• 52:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 52:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: You get flip on your net bone when you go up high.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: Flip for real.
• 52:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: There we go.
• 52:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
• 52:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm with you.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: I want you to come by for the interview.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: And you're in the back.
• 52:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: Just like you're in the back.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: Hello.
• 52:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: You get to know you, you know, as a person engage your intellect and knowledge of the game.
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: At least in now, they get 30 visits, so you can engage all that extensively, extensively when you go there.
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I didn't run, I didn't live, I did not participate in hundreds of their lunches.
• 52:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: Many guys in my class did, you know, as wild receivers, you know, Johnny Morton, Ken Shed, Travis Hannah, Shannon Baker, they ran the fastest times, you know,
• 52:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: Never heard of him.
• 52:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's my whole point who always be.
• 53:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: Can you play bulls?
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: Some of the biggest freaks in the performance that the combine had been guys like Tony Mandies, Vernon Goston, Mike Lamolo, Gary's Hayward Bay.
• 53:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean really, by the way, I mean they were all drafted ahead of Michael Craftry and Jeremy McClend.
• 53:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: Could they ball?
• 53:18
  [SPEAKER_07]: Hell no, and conversely, guys like Tom Brady, Jay Rice, and Juan Bowdoin, Cooper Cup, had average to below average combined.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: And you can add Joe Breeze and Jarvis Langer and Kales, Kimball, if that lists, could all them ball?
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, there's no need even answer that question.
• 53:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: I try to play hard, play tough, play smart.
• 53:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: I try to act like an offense of player and think like a defense of player.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I ran a 4-4-8, 40 at my Penn State Pro Day, bottom line is this.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: Stop making draft decisions based off ridiculous, the ridiculous service and circus in Indy.
• 53:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: Look at the tape, see what type of people they are, are they tough, smart, no-the-game, the teammates, hard workers, and to hell with the rest.
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: I want Baldur's walk in the Aquinoins, not some cat that gained the system through all season training.
• 54:09
  [SPEAKER_07]: They rarely last in this league.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: And I believe that Sully and Half feel the same way I do.
• 54:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: I try to tell you.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
• 54:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cheers.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: You messing around today got a couple of things in there, too, man.
• 54:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: I was ready for the dings, man.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: I was trying to pull it off earlier in dings.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I could save someone for my try to tell you.
• 54:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it didn't seem like you were trying to hold on.
• 54:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm right about it.
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I almost wanted to give you a ding for that.
• 54:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who are they, comment?
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was cold.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: That was good.
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: That was good.
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, who's up?
• 54:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: But we going, let's go Savat.
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, yeah, I got you, but I know because, you know, last week, Seth was getting on us.
• 54:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: We all got a stern talking to about staying on topic because we're dolphins podcast.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: I brought up frigging courts.
• 55:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's true, but I've been trying to tell y'all for a minute now.
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Miami hasn't been hiring bad coaches, at least not the last few.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've been hiring good coaches at the wrong time, and then parachuting them into messy situations and expecting them to drag the whole franchise out of the chaos by sheer willpower.
• 55:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: For two former dolphins head coaches, but the difference now is scope.
• 55:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Both of those guys now have lanes to find rules.
• 55:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fewer fires to put out, and that alone should boost their effectiveness.
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to use the word efficacy.
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: That one's just, woo!
• 55:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now let's start with the game.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: The man walked into back to back head coaching interviews, carrying a recommendation from Peyton Manning.
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like you're running the mill linked in endorsement.
• 56:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why did it fall apart in my name?
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can slice it a dozen different ways, but the heart of it was simple.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't turn Ryan Tanahill into Peyton Manning.
• 56:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was the bar.
• 56:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when that didn't happen, the clock started ticking.
• 56:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: In LA though, he won't be calling plays.
• 56:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: He'll be working under an OC and that's huge as it funnels him into what he actually does well.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Game planning, coverage identification, third down and red zone concepts and situational quarterback prep.
• 56:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Reminds me, can he still set it on the fish tang?
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Gaze had them ready for everything.
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Every scenario, including the Miami Miracle, that wasn't luck.
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was prep.
• 56:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think he was his quote exactly.
• 56:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said that they practiced that play.
• 56:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Every Saturday from the moment Adam Gaze got there until they used it in that game.
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So wasn't, this is a play we refer to as a miracle.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't divine intervention.
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was divine preparation.
• 57:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 57:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're going to sidestep Flores for a second to talk about McDaniel.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: As the head coach in Miami, McDaniel proved he could design an elite explosive offense.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when it was humming, it was beautiful.
• 57:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Motion, timings, facing, speed.
• 57:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it skewed toward finesse.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when things got muddy, the short yardage, and the red zone, physical run answers, the offense didn't always have a counter punch.
• 57:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Historically, though, his best work came as a lieutenant next to a strong head coach.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks Shanahan, where he can maximize a unit instead of overseeing an entire building.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: The charges are basically recreating that environment.
• 57:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You add in harbors, physical philosophy, and gaseous situational structure, and suddenly the soft spots in Mikey's make-offence have reinforcements.
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now put simply, make Daniel's strengths, creative run pass integration, motion, detailed game planning, and quarterback efficiency are front and center.
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: And as weakness it, buffered by the staff around him.
• 58:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now very briefly, Laura's, Ryan Flores is a damn good coach.
• 58:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to agree with everything he's done or said to see that.
• 58:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He caught heat in Miami largely because he refused to play along.
• 58:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Allegedly, allegedly offered $100,000 per loss and said, nope, not my team, and that's conviction.
• 58:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He also fielded one of the most disciplined dolphin squads we've seen in many years.
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: and he told us far more bluntly and with way fewer words than McDaniel would have used that he didn't believe tool was the guy.
• 58:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he got buried for it.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yet in three seasons, he produced two winning years with a quarterback he very publicly didn't want.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And today he still regard as one of the sharpest defensive minds in the league.
• 58:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me land this plan.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Seth said a couple weeks ago, Miami fans are going to be sick watching the chargers off
• 59:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: and maybe, but take a breath to all fans, we never could have built what LA just assembled.
• 59:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's no universe where two former head coaches come back to the same organization to take lesser roles almost never happens.
• 59:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, the only recent example that comes to mind is Van's Joseph and Denver, and hilariously enough, he was once my Amy's defense
• 59:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: My point, the same as it's been.
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Miami hasn't been hiring bad coaches.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've been hiring good ones and bad times in bad situations and asking them to perform miracles.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And even Adam Gase's one that he managed to pull was not enough.
• 59:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I tried to tell you.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: you guys are breaking it today and I have damn you're nothing so I'm I'm sure Mike's gonna slay it too.
• 59:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I might just go run with my tail between my legs.
• 59:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Michael Leva, what did you try to tell us?
• 1:00:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: All right, I've been trying to tell y'all.
• 1:00:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if John Eric Sullivan or Jeff Haffley will be successful, but this is a new day of Miami dolphins football.
• 1:00:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: They might, from what they have said so far and done.
• 1:00:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: They, and just from the whole organization of raw,
• 1:00:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: this group might not be so dang nice anymore.
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: They are not worried about upsetting players or hurting their feelings and it's not just a GM, it's not just a coach, it's now carried over to the social media team.
• 1:00:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Exhibit A, the Miami Dolphin social media team didn't even wish to a happy birthday on Tuesday.
• 1:00:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a birthday greeting.
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: I get it.
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: The guys gonna be gone soon, but not a birthday greeting and don't give me this all it was in all reciter.
• 1:00:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: They didn't know.
• 1:00:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because I did a quick glance of the Miami Dolphins Twitter and X page.
• 1:00:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: These guys don't miss anything.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: February 18th, they wish people a happy Ramadan.
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: February 14th, they wish people a happy Valentine's Day.
• 1:00:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: February 13th, they wish on T-Trader.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Happy birthday.
• 1:01:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: February 3rd, they wish Bob greasy happy birthday and I'm pretty sure Bob isn't even on social media on January 27th They wish Daniel Brunskill happy birthday.
• 1:01:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: What's big deal.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's not even under contract anymore.
• 1:01:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's gonna be a free agent
• 1:01:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: They wished Ali Gordon the happy birthday on January 15th.
• 1:01:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: They wished Andrew Wier.
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Andrew, but who's even play last year.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: They wish him a happy birthday on January 14th, Jonah Savaya Naya, January 13th, which has been web January 11th.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: On Christmas, a holiday, they wish Larry Zonka a happy birthday.
• 1:01:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: How high should you go back to July 12th?
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: They might have wished me a happy birthday.
• 1:01:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: They wish everyone a happy birthday.
• 1:01:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: Except for two of them.
• 1:01:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I did go back to December 2nd.
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because there's a former first round pick of the Miami Dolphins, who has a birthday on December 2nd.
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: And OJM said to announce you're in company with two of them.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Because they didn't wish you a happy birthday.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: I know.
• 1:02:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: But you know who did Dolphins talk that kind of thing.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
• 1:02:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
• 1:02:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, two better Miami Dolphins.
• 1:02:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: On the second next year of December.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm watching you guys wish to juice a happy birthday.
• 1:02:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: But back to my point.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: I tried to tell y'all this was over a long time ago.
• 1:02:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: When he got two head coaches and a GM fired, it was over.
• 1:02:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: And some people still don't want to believe there's some of the media saying,
• 1:02:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: They don't want them anymore and there's no further proof when they wish everyone under the sun that damn near happy birthday except for a guy who's been the starting quarterback for the past five or six years.
• 1:02:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: I tried to tell you all.
• 1:02:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, why?
• 1:02:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: Man, oh, man.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and my girlfriend did that research, too, man.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: Fuck, dude.
• 1:02:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: I can't, well, since I got back to Christmas, I go, let me check juice.
• 1:03:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's all you, you know, at the start of the month, and they go and run them by all these names.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they don't bronze kills, they have another contract.
• 1:03:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're gonna be gone.
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't realize it was that bad, man.
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I, I, I, man, I'm sorry to really dislike it.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's, that's brilliant right there, Mike.
• 1:03:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: Because now I really don't like the team anymore.
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: What was that the goal?
• 1:03:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, well, it wasn't a goal, but he's litified it for me.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, if they're going to do it.
• 1:03:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: Are you more upset about your birthday or two of us?
• 1:03:30
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, his.
• 1:03:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: See, I see.
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: Don't give me a chance.
• 1:03:33
  [SPEAKER_07]: Come on, choose.
• 1:03:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm more upset about you.
• 1:03:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what's about mine, Mike.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: Of course.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: No, what's that?
• 1:03:38
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's only trying to start something, man.
• 1:03:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Sam wants to know if they wish to lend Omari a happy birthday, Mike.
• 1:03:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's the first time I have to look at my list.
• 1:03:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's a good chance I did.
• 1:03:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bobby could chance I could hurt when I was saying, I don't really think I want to do one.
• 1:03:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I, that was too good.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You guys killed it.
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't need to do one.
• 1:03:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got to do one.
• 1:03:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, well, I got a half past half birthday.
• 1:04:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: I want to keep you happy birthday to a happy birthday.
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you guys, well, I don't come in half ass and two.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've got a brief one for you, man, man, all you, I have a brief one, and here's a deal.
• 1:04:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I tried to tell you all that there is no dirtier word in the national football league than hope.
• 1:04:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And gentlemen, get out your earmuffs because we are in hope season.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: From a carousel of hope that circle the NFL during a record setting head coaches cycle,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: to the hope that this time will be different for our Dolphin and Brethren.
• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: To hoping certain players will be released or that others will be signed or maybe that some will get a birthday wish.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hoping that your draft steel is still available at seven or that Ruben Baines are just short enough for him to fall to 11.
• 1:04:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Or just simply hoping that Miami Dolphins make throwbacks permanent.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hope springs eternal.
• 1:04:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm here to tell you to stop hoping.
• 1:04:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, I'm not trying to be all negative nilly here because there's a major difference between hope and belief.
• 1:05:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: And belief is really what we need, but belief is earned, belief is earned over time, and more importantly, belief is earned with results.
• 1:05:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we need some time.
• 1:05:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Put hope on the shelf.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's give half, let's give Sullivan, and the rest of this crew some time so that we can believe in that.
• 1:05:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: So just pause for a second.
• 1:05:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Follow your offseason, build your draft boards, go listen to drive time, and you get all your position, group breakdowns from Travis.
• 1:05:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: But hope, haven't we hoped enough in South Florida?
• 1:05:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want everyone to start treating hope the way Savak treats.
• 1:05:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: a profanity-filled, O.J.
• 1:05:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: McDuffie, Tyrade, when you hear the word hope, Savak, what are you giving?
• 1:05:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: I tried to tell you all.
• 1:05:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Sam's got a great comment.
• 1:05:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: We got to share this comment from Sam.
• 1:05:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, that's it.
• 1:06:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's exactly right.
• 1:06:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, you know, big set in the spirit of the late Jesse Jackson.
• 1:06:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: He always said, keep hope alive, man.
• 1:06:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I did it, I'm back on Belize now.
• 1:06:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna try to believe, because I've been hoping for a long time, man.
• 1:06:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: They should get the benefit of the doubt until they shouldn't.
• 1:06:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that's how I've been taking it.
• 1:06:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, look, Chris Greer, not to just keep pilein' out.
• 1:06:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: He must have more than one.
• 1:06:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: So he couldn't get the benefit of the past few years.
• 1:06:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: It was always, let's second, Gaston, because it was good reason to.
• 1:06:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: These guys haven't done anything yet.
• 1:06:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: where you'll give them the benefit of that.
• 1:06:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's see how this goes.
• 1:06:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: In a few years, if there's reason not to give them the benefit, I thought we crossed that bridge when we get there, but for now, let's just see how this plays out.
• 1:06:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: Let me ask before we get out of here, last you Mike and Savak and Seth, in the last 10 years have you
• 1:06:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: there's had to be some season where we felt good about how we could be as a team going to the season.
• 1:07:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: I thought after 23 with our offense, I thought we could be dominant, you know, and then figure out a way to make our defense work moving forward.
• 1:07:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I thought that after we were so good as an offense, I like shit.
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: We can be really, really good here.
• 1:07:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you, just about.
• 1:07:20
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know moving forward with all the same pieces parts.
• 1:07:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: I had the same feeling when I was at Penn State And we brought out a safety spark back and we collapsed this last year, but I'm saying like I felt pretty good going into into this season for sure Did anybody else for the same way?
• 1:07:36
  [SPEAKER_07]: I know we were beat up on these things like that, but for for us all fence That's how pretty good about it
• 1:07:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Not this year, but I'll tell you a year though, right, really at high hopes 24 24 and that's 20.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: Also, it should go back a little way.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: 2016.
• 1:07:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: Adam Gase's first year.
• 1:07:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Jay and Jay is running for 200 yard games.
• 1:07:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Landry's a beast out there.
• 1:07:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: Brian Tannel finally played a good year up until when he got hurt late in the year and I'm like, okay, they made the playoffs on some Pittsburgh with Matt Moore, not a shock.
• 1:08:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: But that next year, they said Ryan Tannel was healthy until you got to training the camp all at the third day.
• 1:08:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, but if you would have been healthy, I'm like, going into that year, J.J. Jarvis Landry, Ryan Tannel's coming off his best year that offensive line was pretty good time at that point.
• 1:08:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: I thought that year, like this might be a year where we can take a leap,
• 1:08:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: And it never happened because we ended up with Jay Kotler and it was a whole, it just unraveled like the first or second day of camp.
• 1:08:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: But that's when I really thought this franchise was really onto something because they had the power running game.
• 1:08:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: They had some wide receivers.
• 1:08:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: They had a quarterback who was ascending at that point a little bit.
• 1:08:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Never happened.
• 1:08:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: 23 was, that was their year, honestly.
• 1:08:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's so many years.
• 1:08:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: But 24 though, they lost a lot of guys after 23.
• 1:08:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: They built in.
• 1:08:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was tough to replace some of those guys.
• 1:08:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but there was, I think, well, for me, there was hope there because you just saw how explosive the offense could be.
• 1:09:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And at that point, we, and I hate to say that I had belief that Mike McDaniel was going to figure out the next thing, just like, you know, that whole, uh, whatever that, that speed motion or whatever he figured out with Tyreken, everybody started copying and then, you know, I thought he was going to be back in the lab and figure out the next thing and that that he would find away.
• 1:09:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: to overcome whatever the league had done to shut down the offense.
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it never, ever happened.
• 1:09:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: The last time I had a real hope, I would say, the last time I had a real hope was probably 2006 after the T-M1 was at six in a row to close out the season and say, you know, it was okay, you got Nick Sabin and you got obviously JT being defensive player the year and just thought things were maybe heading in the right direction there.
• 1:09:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, you know, we all know there was quarterback decision made there that that this team is still as we have a new Hall of Fame quarterback going in to the in the can there were decisions made there, but I think that one and maybe after Ricky's first year 2000 2000 2003, you know, those were the two years we had the run game and that defense together, the ideal situation for this team.
• 1:10:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: and they slubbed it up, Savak.
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: They slubbed it up.
• 1:10:25
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that was that.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_07]: When you had both, when you had, that's the recipe right there.
• 1:10:31
  [SPEAKER_07]: Great defense and a great run game.
• 1:10:34
  [SPEAKER_07]: And then it really boils down to now, can you have a freaking, you have a fucking franchise quarterback in the middle of that.
• 1:10:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: Savak, where are you?
• 1:10:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: Fuck your later on that one.
• 1:10:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: taxi, you know, if you if that's our problem, man, we can never get it all right at the at the same time.
• 1:10:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's, that's, do we believe we can get that?
• 1:10:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: I hope we can, but my belief right now is that we have to start with some of the guys we have now.
• 1:11:03
  [SPEAKER_07]: We don't have a franchise quarterback anymore.
• 1:11:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: We've got to figure this out.
• 1:11:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: How can we get that?
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: And that's how you win football games in this league, bro.
• 1:11:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, looking some of the teams that come up short.
• 1:11:16
  [SPEAKER_07]: Look at some of the teams that come up short.
• 1:11:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you talk about the Seattle Seahaw who just won the Super Bowl,
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: Look, they've got a quarterback that honestly, people would say whatever they want, but he's more 14 games, two years in the row.
• 1:11:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: And they've got a run game, and they've got a great defense.
• 1:11:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: The things that we're talking about, you know, you go back to Philly winning it two years ago, they think Jalen's a franchise quarterback, but they had a run game and a great defense.
• 1:11:42
  [SPEAKER_07]: Now, when you've got a sub-par quarterback, all of those shit don't matter, it don't matter.
• 1:11:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, you've got to have somebody at some point have to make a play.
• 1:11:52
  [SPEAKER_07]: Somebody's got to make a throw.
• 1:11:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: They got to run out of trouble.
• 1:11:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
• 1:11:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: And third down.
• 1:11:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: You got to convert third down.
• 1:11:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: So it's what it is to the whole league is.
• 1:12:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Third down.
• 1:12:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: Can you convert third down?
• 1:12:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: And a keep a saying, you know, manageable down in this season.
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Don't turn the fucking ball over.
• 1:12:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: I missed after I was survived.
• 1:12:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: We need a counter.
• 1:12:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Can we get a counter?
• 1:12:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a counter.
• 1:12:12
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• 1:12:12
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• 1:12:13
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• 1:12:14
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• 1:12:15
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• 1:12:15
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• 1:12:16
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• 1:12:17
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• 1:12:17
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• 1:12:18
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• 1:12:19
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• 1:12:19
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• 1:12:20
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• 1:12:21
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• 1:12:21
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• 1:12:22
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• 1:12:22
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• 1:12:23
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• 1:12:23
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• 1:12:24
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• 1:12:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: That book cover that you just said out there.
• 1:12:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Can that be pulled up on the screen?
• 1:12:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me see.
• 1:12:29
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• 1:12:30
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• 1:12:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let me see.
• 1:12:33
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• 1:12:35
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• 1:12:36
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• 1:12:37
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• 1:12:38
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• 1:12:42
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• 1:12:42
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• 1:12:47
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• 1:12:48
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• 1:12:49
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• 1:12:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: You ready?
• 1:12:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Here we go.
• 1:12:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: The next New York Times best seller.
• 1:12:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: There it is.
• 1:13:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, we're going to do autograph copies and you can get a pre-sale in now.
• 1:13:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we're taking orders.
• 1:13:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Except looking, looking like he got there and bought it.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Clark Kent ripping off the shirt.
• 1:13:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: That is an old ass photograph.
• 1:13:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: But damn it, it was a better time.
• 1:13:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a better time.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: If you get a time juice, I think it's about that time.
• 1:13:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: And it's no better way to end it than that right there, big set.
• 1:13:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody, thanks for diving in.
• 1:13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's on the legend that we're talking about when you've got a minute test time.