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The Late Debate | 9 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome the late base.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: with Joe Hildebrand and Daneka di Georgio. You're getting ready
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  Speaker 2: for a wonderful weekend day here, Danika, I am.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to the races this week.
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  Speaker 4: Who before, Well, I've been to the Melbourne Cup, but
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  Speaker 4: I've actually never been to any races here in Sydney
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  Speaker 4: since I moved here.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited a real horse race.
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited to get you because you get a bit
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  Speaker 4: frocked up for it, fascinator, So I'm actually I'm excited
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  Speaker 4: or Glambda.
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  Speaker 5: I get frocked up every year.
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  Speaker 2: I see I see your you get frocked up every
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  Speaker 2: night when you go home on the pikes.
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  Speaker 1: Reasoning are here.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, we'll have to get you to the Warnabule races.
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  Speaker 2: Next jump the next thing. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Should we bring back the military draft? The US is
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  Speaker 2: going to automatically register young men for the draft pool
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  Speaker 2: from December. But should we look at a draft or
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  Speaker 2: conscription to boost our service number? Will have that argument soon.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing gets any better when it comes to petrol. Diesel
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  Speaker 2: has now hit record prices. That's on the front of
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow's career mail.
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  Speaker 1: Not that it has.
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  Speaker 2: Anything to do with that bloke that you've just seen
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  Speaker 2: on the fuck though he has been perhaps missing his
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  Speaker 2: time on horseback. He'd be saving money on fuel if
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  Speaker 2: he was on horseback.
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  Speaker 1: He's not been allowed to do it. They won't let
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  Speaker 1: him go out and be in public.
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  Speaker 2: But in the meantime he's finally had a visit from
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  Speaker 2: some of his family and he's keeping a low profile,
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  Speaker 2: as I say, and so are they. But it is
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  Speaker 2: the first time that any of the royal family have
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  Speaker 2: shown any support since he was charged in relation to
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  Speaker 2: the Epstein files, as quiet as their support might be.
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  Speaker 2: But let's start tonight to hear at home. Grace tame,
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  Speaker 2: of course after her antics in recent months. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: you will remember her standing up at a protest at
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  Speaker 2: the Sydney Town Hall, which I'll show you in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: She was roundly criticized after that, then said that she
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  Speaker 2: couldn't get any work. All her speaking gigs had dried up.
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  Speaker 2: In the meantime, there were stories about her charity and
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  Speaker 2: the money or lack of money that it has. Will
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  Speaker 2: we find out today that her charity has been wound
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  Speaker 2: up now. I mentioned her little hissy fit on the
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  Speaker 2: steps of town Hall in Sydney.
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  Speaker 1: Here it is. If you don't remember it.
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  Speaker 2: Say it with me.
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  Speaker 3: From Gadigal to.
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  Speaker 6: Gaza Globalize the ENGI.
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  Speaker 3: Fun I won my time.
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  Speaker 4: From Gadidal to Gaza Globalize.
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  Speaker 2: The charity had made losses of one hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars over two years. It was originally set up
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  Speaker 2: around about the time that she came to public prominence
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  Speaker 2: as a charity to help people who were victims of
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  Speaker 2: sexual violence like she was. And clearly, as I've just outlined,
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  Speaker 2: there were problems with the charity to begin with. But
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  Speaker 2: it sort of goes from add to worse for Grace Tame,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it.
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  Speaker 5: It does, And I sort of feel really bad for this.
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  Speaker 5: I wrote about this a little while ago, But just
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  Speaker 5: that Grace Tame is actually someone who is clearly very
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  Speaker 5: very smart, and she's really good with words as well,
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  Speaker 5: Like when she's actually speaking, she's really sharp. She can
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  Speaker 5: be really funny in acerbic, and when she writes she
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  Speaker 5: can write really really well, and she can be really
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  Speaker 5: funny as well. And to see her just kind of
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  Speaker 5: reduced to just chanting these dumb slogans which are either
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  Speaker 5: incitements to violence or just meaningless crap that really means nothing,
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  Speaker 5: depending on which way you want to look at it.
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  Speaker 5: It's just so unoriginal and it's so performative without serving
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  Speaker 5: any real purpose whatsoever. And it's that kind of I suppose,
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  Speaker 5: performative politics that the activist left just loves to specialize in,
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  Speaker 5: what not what gets results. But the look at me,
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  Speaker 5: look at me, look at how progressive I am, and
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  Speaker 5: if you don't share my views, then you're you know,
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  Speaker 5: and you're not a real person. And now we're sort
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  Speaker 5: of seeing the results of that. And again, these charities,
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  Speaker 5: you're absolutely right, they very very rarely work out if
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  Speaker 5: they're if they're not, you know, if it's just based
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  Speaker 5: on someone you know, getting a gong for Australian of
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  Speaker 5: the Year and then setting up a charity for what
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  Speaker 5: they're getting their gong for, chances are there's already plenty
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  Speaker 5: of charities doing that work. And what you're doing is
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  Speaker 5: just you know, cannibalizing funds or donations that would already
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  Speaker 5: be going to these other places. And chances are if
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  Speaker 5: it's that niche or built around one person. Your ability
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  Speaker 5: to fundraise is going to be limited anyway, but one
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  Speaker 5: guaranteed way of ensuring that the funds dry up is
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  Speaker 5: to make sure that you are out of step with
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  Speaker 5: public sentiment that you are offensive, or you are a
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  Speaker 5: brand that that big money doesn't want to touch. And
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  Speaker 5: I think the real tragedy here apart from you know,
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  Speaker 5: someone who is very, very smart, who has an incredible
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  Speaker 5: story to tell, instead just sort of che these stupid
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  Speaker 5: angry slogans. Yeah, but that it seems that that was
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  Speaker 5: more important than actually getting the practical help totally and
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  Speaker 5: the dollars any more important than I'd be able to
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  Speaker 5: say globalized it's a fada, than actually doing anything else.
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  Speaker 5: And that's sad.
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  Speaker 4: I think, well, you know what I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sad about this. You know, in the end, this is
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  Speaker 4: all self inflicted, is it not? I mean, is she
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  Speaker 4: going to come out with a statement blaming a national
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  Speaker 4: smear campaign again? I mean, Grace Thames year has gone
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  Speaker 4: from bad to worse. Of course, all those speaking engagements
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  Speaker 4: were canceled following that pilava where she was chanting globalizing
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  Speaker 4: into FATA, and now her charity has gone down. According
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  Speaker 4: to that article, that there were members of the board
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  Speaker 4: who raised concerns or there was some tensions after she
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  Speaker 4: did go to that protest, So that it is such
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  Speaker 4: a shame to see what could have been a very
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  Speaker 4: successful charity helping survivors of sexual abuse, helping these women
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  Speaker 4: in their time of need, in the worst times of
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  Speaker 4: their lives. Now it has had to be shut down.
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  Speaker 4: And there's only one person to blame, and that is
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  Speaker 4: Grace Tame herself. She could have just been a fantastic
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  Speaker 4: role model, a fantastic Australian.
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  Speaker 3: Of the Year.
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  Speaker 4: Instead she went down this woke pathway where she became
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  Speaker 4: a nasty mouthpiece for every single left cause. As you
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  Speaker 4: mentioned the causes, Joe, and you actually lose respect for her.
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  Speaker 4: I've certainly lost respect for her in that entire process.
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  Speaker 4: So no, I've got no sympathy for the situation. It
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  Speaker 4: is all self inflicted. The only sympathy I have is
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  Speaker 4: for the survivors who could have done with a charity
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  Speaker 4: like this, and it could have been successful, but her
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  Speaker 4: own fault.
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  Speaker 2: And this is unfortunately, excuse me, unfortunately, what happens when
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  Speaker 2: you hold up victims as beacons of public opinion and
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  Speaker 2: goodness in the world because you've taken someone who has
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  Speaker 2: a rightful ax to grind on a particular issue. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: given her a voice way beyond that, and she's taken
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  Speaker 2: that and used it, but it hasn't.
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  Speaker 1: Been for good.
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  Speaker 2: You can talk until the cows come home, as you
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  Speaker 2: should be able to about sexual abuse. I mean it
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  Speaker 2: is a massive issue, and the work she has done
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  Speaker 2: on that I will defend, great work, fantastic, But she
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  Speaker 2: has then gone beyond that because you know, the media
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  Speaker 2: is interested in what she has to say. She has
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  Speaker 2: become a public figure and she has extended herself beyond
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  Speaker 2: what she ought to be dealing with and it has
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  Speaker 2: put her in an awful position.
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  Speaker 1: It's with the charity in an awful position.
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  Speaker 2: It's now discredited her work basically because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people go, well, if that's the content of your character,
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  Speaker 2: why would I want to be involved in your charity,
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  Speaker 2: Why would I want to be involved with you?
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  Speaker 1: With you at all?
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  Speaker 2: Which is why she's had speaking gigs drying up except
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  Speaker 2: for the Melbourne Ritis Festival. It's like she's been set
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  Speaker 2: up for failure and she's failed.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's almost a bit. The thing is, she
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  Speaker 5: should be able to speak about whatever she wants obviously,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, just because she's a survivor of sex
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  Speaker 5: abuse doesn't mean that that's the only thing she can
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  Speaker 5: talk about or that's the only cause she can take up.
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  Speaker 5: I think the problem is, firstly, do you say, right,
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  Speaker 5: my priority is she's very young as well. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if I knew much stuff when I
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  Speaker 5: was her age, But you say, all right, I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to make this my absolute priority, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: devote my energies towards this foundation, towards helping eliminate the
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  Speaker 5: scourge and giving survivors a place to go to to
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  Speaker 5: get help, and everything else is going to take a
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  Speaker 5: back seat to that, and anything that might compromise that
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to do. So that is one the
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  Speaker 5: one position I could have taken, you know, if she
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  Speaker 5: was really thinking about these things. And again, young people
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  Speaker 5: don't necessarily sit down and think about But.
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  Speaker 4: Even if you're a young person and you don't stand
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  Speaker 4: next to Scott Morrison, the Prime Minister there with your
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  Speaker 4: you know, acting wayside, if you just.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do things like that, don't matter.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what age you are, You just be
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  Speaker 4: appreciative of what is in front of you, and you
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  Speaker 4: take those opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: You don't act like that in public.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think the problem is that. And you
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  Speaker 5: see this with the activist left all the time, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm going down a bit of a Dylan rabbit hole
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  Speaker 5: at the moment. And this is what Bob Dylan hated
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  Speaker 5: when people thought couldn't understand why he'd gone electric, or
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  Speaker 5: why he wasn't showing up to the same old rallies everything,
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  Speaker 5: which is you have a sort of activist mentality. You
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  Speaker 5: have often if you're young, you want to be rebellious,
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  Speaker 5: you want to get you want to fight against you know,
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  Speaker 5: the system, man or whatever. And it kind of almost
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  Speaker 5: doesn't matter what the issue is or what the cause is.
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  Speaker 5: The whole point is the protest. The whole point is
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  Speaker 5: the activism. And so you get these kind of you
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  Speaker 5: know what to be angry about today, It's Palestine, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's this Israel. You know, last generation it was Vietnam,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the one before whatever, whatever. So and so
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  Speaker 5: she sort of joins this kind of activist class. I
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  Speaker 5: think Brenda O'Neil from Spike called it the Omni cause,
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  Speaker 5: where so right Okay, I'm now an activist. Just point
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  Speaker 5: me what direction do I protest?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well the left, isn't she That's that's the way
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  Speaker 4: the left act. They just jump onto every single call.
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  Speaker 4: And that has been grace tame, and look exactly where
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  Speaker 4: it has got her.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to the.
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  Speaker 4: US now, where men age between eighteen and twenty five
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  Speaker 4: will automatically be registered for US military draft from December,
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  Speaker 4: should they be eligible. Now, this is a not an
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  Speaker 4: automatic draft. The US has not had conscription since the
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  Speaker 4: nineteen seventies, back during the Vietnam War. But this is
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  Speaker 4: designed to one make it cheaper and two to streamline
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  Speaker 4: the eligibility criteria, So that's coming in from December. The
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  Speaker 4: US Selective Services System says this statutory change transfers responsibility
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  Speaker 4: for registration from individual men to SSS through integration with
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  Speaker 4: Federal Data Service sources. Caroline Levitt, the White House Press Secretary,
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  Speaker 4: said it's not part of the current plan right now.
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  Speaker 4: This is conscription, but the President again wisely keeps his
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  Speaker 4: options on the table. Now, something like a conscription a
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  Speaker 4: national service would only happen should Congress and the Donald
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  Speaker 4: Trumps sign off on it, and only in the case
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  Speaker 4: of a national emergency. But given this streamlining process in
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  Speaker 4: the US, it has many in the United States wondering
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  Speaker 4: whether that national service would be on the cards given
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  Speaker 4: the times that we live in with Iran, the Middle
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  Speaker 4: Eastern conflict. But would young people actually now sign up
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  Speaker 4: and would they do it, say here in Australia. And
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  Speaker 4: I think this actually presents itself to be quite an
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  Speaker 4: interesting debate. Obviously, our conscription was a huge moment for
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  Speaker 4: US during the war when men were sent off, whether
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  Speaker 4: they liked it or not. I don't think that we
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  Speaker 4: could possibly have national service anymore. And there's two reasons
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  Speaker 4: for it. One, I don't think that people know what
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  Speaker 4: they're fighting for. I think that patriotism has gone out
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  Speaker 4: the window in this country and there are genuinely people
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  Speaker 4: who hate this country, yet they walk among us. They
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  Speaker 4: were born here, but somehow they've been indoctrinated by these
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  Speaker 4: culture wars to think that Australians are the enemy and
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  Speaker 4: if you're white, well you must certainly be the enemy.
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  Speaker 4: But secondly, I just don't think that our values people
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  Speaker 4: appreciate our values as much as they used to the
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  Speaker 4: values of madship and of courage. And I think this
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  Speaker 4: next generation is just so different to the soldiers who
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  Speaker 4: once fought for US, and we're very lucky that many
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  Speaker 4: still do. But I don't think that that sentiment is
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  Speaker 4: here in this country.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't that why you would have national service?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: But how many people are actually going to sign up
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  Speaker 7: for it?
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  Speaker 5: Don't sign up, you don't get a choice.
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  Speaker 3: Let me rephrase that.
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  Speaker 7: But do you really think that people care that much anymore?
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  Speaker 3: That's the question.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I suppose the whole idea, and I'm not sure
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  Speaker 5: how it would go down here in Australia. And I
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  Speaker 5: can imagine, you know, we saw what happened during Vietnam.
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  Speaker 5: Imagine all the college students being drafted to fight for
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump, and imagine how many draft cards would be
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  Speaker 5: incinerated on college campuses across the US. But look, it
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  Speaker 5: has been done before. It's also not been done before.
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  Speaker 5: I mean in World War One, Billy Hughes basically lost
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  Speaker 5: the Prime ministership by trying to introduce conscription. It was
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  Speaker 5: the mothers of young men who said, no, you're not
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  Speaker 5: going to be able to force our boys to go
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  Speaker 5: over and die. But of course, in many ways they
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  Speaker 5: didn't really have to have to in World War One
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  Speaker 5: because people were signing up by the droves, because there
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  Speaker 5: was that sense of national fervor and there was that
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  Speaker 5: sense that, you know, if your country said that it
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  Speaker 5: needed you, then you answered the call. These days, I think,
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  Speaker 5: I mean ever since Vietnam. I mean, that's really the
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  Speaker 5: first time, if you put aside the conscription thing, it's
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  Speaker 5: kind of the first time kind of said right, okay,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to war and a generator said, actually, no,
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  Speaker 5: we don't want to. We disagree with you. And the
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  Speaker 5: government said, hey, but yeah, but we're going because I'm
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  Speaker 5: the government and this is Australia, this is the US,
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  Speaker 5: and we are sending you there. And people said no, no,
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  Speaker 5: I won't go. And I think that I don't think
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  Speaker 5: it's any coincidence that that came as the first generation
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  Speaker 5: that had not really known existential war, the threat of
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  Speaker 5: existential war. So these are people who would have been
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  Speaker 5: either not born not old enough to remember World War Two,
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  Speaker 5: and so these are people who the baby boomers, who
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  Speaker 5: grew up at the beginning of what's now called the
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  Speaker 5: Long Peace, where you can afford to sort of pick
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  Speaker 5: and choose what you do because you know, since nineteen
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  Speaker 5: forty five. We haven't been under a threat of invasion
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  Speaker 5: in the West, in Australia or the US or the UK,
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  Speaker 5: and so, you know, so people are suddenly saying, well, no,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to do what my country wants. I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to do what I want. And I think that
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  Speaker 5: is a new mentality. And so maybe we do need
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  Speaker 5: to And I can't believe I'm saying this, I've talked
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  Speaker 5: myself into it, but maybe we do need to have
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  Speaker 5: some kind of national service, not necessarily military service, but
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  Speaker 5: national service, government service. You could have a green core,
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  Speaker 5: you know, kids out there planting trees. You could have
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  Speaker 5: people working in the public services filling shortages, you know,
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  Speaker 5: cleaning graffiti off trains or picking litter up off the.
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  Speaker 1: Streets to make them feel like they have some O.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, this is your country. You should be proud of it.
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  Speaker 5: You should serve it. And maybe if you make your
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  Speaker 5: country a bit better and know what it's like to
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  Speaker 5: serve your country, you will actually start to hold those
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  Speaker 5: values more dear, because it'll be a nation that you've
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  Speaker 5: put blood sweat into yours in.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I would on the issue of conscription, I
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  Speaker 2: would say that I'm opposed to it in principle because
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  Speaker 2: I don't think people should be forced to do anything
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  Speaker 2: against their will. But if you are at a point
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  Speaker 2: where people don't want to fight for their country voluntarily,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, the IPA has done polling on this,
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  Speaker 2: asking young people in particular, that the question was if
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  Speaker 2: Australia was in the same position as Ukraine is where
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  Speaker 2: you've been invaded, would you go out and fight from memory?
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  Speaker 2: It was something like half of them said no, and
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  Speaker 2: a large number said that they would actually try and
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  Speaker 2: escape the country if they could, so they have no
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  Speaker 2: interest in hanging around and defending their country. And if
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  Speaker 2: that is the case, you can see the justification for
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  Speaker 2: a government saying, well, we need to conscript people because
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  Speaker 2: we need bodies. And the real of war is that
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  Speaker 2: you do need some cannon fodder, and unfortunately that is
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  Speaker 2: often young men.
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  Speaker 1: That's just the reality of war. The second point, though,
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  Speaker 1: is that the.
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  Speaker 2: Future of war will not so will not be so
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  Speaker 2: much about cannon fodder and tanks and bombers and all
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  Speaker 2: this sort of stuff. Wars will be fought through telecommunication systems.
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  Speaker 2: They will be fought through power systems, that kind of infrastructure.
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  Speaker 2: Because if you can, as China is now developing the
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: ability to do, you know, turn off cars at any
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: particular time because they're hooked up via chips to other countries.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Or you can turn off countries telecommunication systems, which will
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: bring their banking to a halt. It brings all communications
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: to a halt. If you can take out power networks,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: which does exactly the same thing. I mean, you could
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: bring a country to its knees without even firing a bullet.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: That's probably going to be the new form of warfare.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: So maybe we don't.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Need to be talking about conscripting, you know, kids to
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: go out and die at war. We're talking about conscripting
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: kids who know how to use computers, who conslain rooms
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: and do the sort of planning and work that they're
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: going to try and do against us.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: And the other thing is, and I think that's a
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: really good point, but we also need to make the
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: ADF more attractive. I think because the ADF has such
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: a recruitment crisis as it is anymore, they are really
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: really struggling to get people on board. There's been all
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: sorts of budget cuts. I mean, there has been elements
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: of the ADF which has gone completely woke. But that's
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: a completely different story. But ways to make it more
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: attractive for recruits to sign up and maybe use different skills,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: as you alluded to, that might be the better option.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: It's amazing, isn't it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Although the interesting thing is again you talk about Ukraine.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Ukraine unleashed one of the most aggressive conscription programs going around.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: When it was made, it wasn't just young ideological you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: natural race. That's right, you know, Zelenski said, right, everyone
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: you are this age. We are literally founding you up
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: and we are dragging you to military barracks and saying again.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: World War One parents who you know, mums, resisted conscription
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: of their boys. World War Two when it looked like
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Australia was under you know, at risk of invasion, and
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: indeed did get attacked in both Darwin and Sydney Harbor.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: There's you know, all that crap about you know, oh
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: you know, no, not our boys, like not every single
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: body on the light. So when your country is on
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: the line, I think that is when you see and
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: we'll see we've haven't seen it in Iran probably, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: people just say, right, forget my politics, I'm now all
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: in all Australian, So maybe we need a good walk now,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: remind us what we're fighting for. Would have let out pencil.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I did once write that in the paper, and Jesus
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: copped some flack for it. While we're talking about war
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: over in the Middle East. We know that there is
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: now a cease fire between the US and Israel and Iran.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And guess who's come through to claim some credit and
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: say we achieve a cease fire.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: What is the purpose of your visit here in the Gulf.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: What kind of influence do you think you can have. Well,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: we've just reached this seasefar, which is both welcome and
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: I think there'll be a sense of real relief.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: That certainly is across the region and for the United Kingdom.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: But there's work to do.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Who is we exactly?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't see Sir Kia sending out messages on truth
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: social you know, calling them crazy bastards and threatening to
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: blow them all up on this kind of I'm not
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: sure what Sir Kiah Stamer had to do with anything
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: in terms of this seaspa, but he now says we
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: have reached a cease far. Of course, after trying to
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: distance himself as much as possible.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: From the war in Iran.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: After standing up in front of a room full of
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Muslim leaders in the UK and telling them, you know, hah,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Me, don't you worry about that?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Not my thing, not my circus, not my monkey's he's
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: now going over there saying, well, will help reopened the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Strait of hor moves and we have achieved a.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Cease fire because of course you want to.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Be on the winning team, don't you. And he's decided
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to hitch his wagon at the last moment and.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: See what he can get out of it.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I think, indeed we do have some exclusive footage of
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Sirkia assisting with things in the Strait of hor Moves.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Brave work. I have to talk about Johnny come lately.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I've made seriously Kirs Starmer is so deluded.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: The guy is a dithering idiot.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Since this war began, Kirs Starmer has taken it upon
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: himself what every press conference that he's been at to
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: say we had nothing to do with this war. Well,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: yet I think Kia, of course you had nothing to
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: do with this war because you are not wartime material.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: The funniest thing that I read today was that UK
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: labor are trying to position Kiir Starmer as a quote
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: global statesman. Now, I don't know about you, but Kiirstarma
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: and global statesman not exactly four words that I would
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: be jumbling together. They are so concerned that he is
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: going to lose the local elections which are coming up
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: next month, because of course that will be a real
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: test of his prime ministership.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: And it's really a referendum on that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: They're so worried that a couple of days ago he
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: put out a state address and get this, the UK
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Labor government put him in front of a black backdrop
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: with Union Jack flags in the background talking about the Iran.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: War to make it look like he was really giving.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: A war try wartime jolly old address is going to
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: have to do more than that to fix his problems.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: But look the fact that he tried to claim credit,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: and he's done this in the past us. This is
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: not the first time he's tried to write off Donald
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Trump's tails.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: It just goes to show how deluded he really really is.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: He's neither here nor there. He won't actually help Donald Trump.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: But as soon as Donald Trump secure as a deal,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: here goes how can I slither myself in and then
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: nominates himself to be the first person to hop on
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: a plane and go sort out the straight up mus
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Which world leader is going to take this guy seriously?
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, to be honest, I think I'm going to
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: be incredibly generous here and give Sircure the benefit of
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: the doubt and say when he's saying, oh, we've just
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: got to cease fire, he means we the world, So
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: he knew what he come on? What he might I think.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I think no, I don't because he knows that. No,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: because that's if he actually meant to say what he
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: said and how it's been interpreted, then he never would
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: have said it because it makes it it's word. Absolutely.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: I think he's saying, look, we're here now with recus
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: ceased fire. Now I'm going to cry and blah blah blah.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: The problem is that he's just so incredibly insipid. I mean,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: in politics, you stand for nothing, you fall for everything,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: and you've got to Actually I was reading I was
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: listening to a podcast about his predecessor, Robert Peel, who
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: was also that similar. You know, these are my principles
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: and if you don't like them, I have others and
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: you know if you backflip, and Peel had to resign
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: twice basically because he backflipped on his positions on corn
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: laws and Catholic emancipation. I don't want to go back
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: more than two centuries. But the point is that the Kystarma,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: what does he stand for? What does he mean? I
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: thought it was really refreshing when he got leader because
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: it meant that the Korbinistas, crazy horrible, nasty, little trotty
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: socialists in the Labor Party had been shunted to one side.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: But it's now clear that they still basically run him,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: and he is so scared of being rolled by them
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: that he can't even afford to, you know, put his
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: proverbial meat and two edge on the chopping block, which
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: is what you got to do in public life. And
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: I you know, I came out strongly. I backed you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: a war was on and what war? But as soon
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: as it was on, I said, well, I'm on Donald
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Trump's side. If it's the eye tol versit donald Trump
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: on Donald Trump's side. Everyone saying, oh, Donald Trump's ruined
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: the world, ruined the world, ruined the world, It's all over.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: So no, I don't know, maybe some good can come
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: of this. And you know what, sometimes when you actually
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: have the balls to say what you believe in and
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: stick by it even when things are going against you,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: you win in the long run. And this brings me
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: to a movie version of the War in Iran that
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: has just been released. We've got the trailer for it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: They've already done the casting, and it's doing the rounds
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: on the internet and I think you'll find that it's
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: a pretty pretty compelling watch. Have a look, come on
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: or something.
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: You're the most powerful military to work.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: You've sent your own purpose.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: That was a test.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: You fell right into my trap.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Yes that was Liam Neeson as Donald Trump, with the
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: role of Keir Starmer being played by Dame Judy Dench.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I think thanks just about joy. While he's over there
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: in the Middle East, I wonder if you're going to
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: pop Bay Gaza and have a word with her mass
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and tell them, as he said on stage a couple
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: of years ago, to release the sausages.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Well, you know who might have a word with Hermas
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Greta Thunberg. Remember her, You know, good, good old Greta
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Greta Thumberg, an absolute delight.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: You have to remind me I know we all love.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Her the Gandma, don't we? How dare you suggest that
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: she's a gremlin? Now?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Look, you might remember that Greta and her mery band
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: of hippies they set sail to Gaza, not once, not twice.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: But guess what they're trying for a third time. Would
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: you believe even though they've been unsuccessful in the past
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: when they were turned away by Israel because of course
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: they were actually in Israeli waters, they're giving another crack.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Lord knows why, especially because Rata last time she was
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: just so terribly treated.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: My name is Gibington. Ma'ma citizen of Sweden. If you
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: are watching this video, I have been abducted and taken
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: against my will by Israeli forces. Our humanitarian mission was
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: nonviolent and abiding by international law. Please tell my government
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: to demand my and the other's immediate release.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Yes, so Greta thought that she was abducted by israel I. Mean,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: this just goes the level of delusion in her mind.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: So they're setting sail again.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: And the Guardian of course, have done up this great
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: peace highlighting some of the Australians who will be on
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: board this flow tiller.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: It includes one woman here she is.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Her name is Juliet Lamont, and it says she has
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: reason to be apprehensive. She claims that she was sexually assaulted,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: deprived of medication, humiliated, and subjected to physical violence while
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: held captive by Israeli forces during the last boat ride.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: But she's doing it again, and so much so she's
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: trained herself to wean off her blood pressure medication because
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: she claims that she was denied her blood medication last time,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: and she thought that she would.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Have a stroke.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: So the lens that they're going to is incredible. And
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: there's even one board. There's a chap by the name
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: of Zack Schofield. He's from Newcastle. He has even gone
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: and spent a fortune on laser eye surgery. That way
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have to take his glasses on the high seas,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: because he said it would be a disaster should his
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: glasses fall overboard. Look, the commitment, the commitment and dedication
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: to what will undoubtedly be another failed flotilla is something
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: to be admired.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: I just it's it's just amazing, isn't it. I mean,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: you know, I could die, I could be assaulted, I
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: might not be able to see, I could have a
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: you know, have a heart attack. I could have a stroke.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Maybe just don't go there, Maybe just sit this war out.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, but this time home, This time.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: The last two times they've they've intercept them. This time,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: just let the boats float on him. What's not it
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be Israel's problem.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Just let them go.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: If these morons want to float themselves into Gaza, just
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: let them go into Gaza. I couldn't give twoots if
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: they get caught in crossing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: What happens to the world.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: They owe it to the world. They can stop this war.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I mean they've done it every single time. Everything off flotilla.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: It's worked. It's not like they're doing something completely useless
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: that has never ever ever worked. They're crazy or stupid
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: enough to think maybe, just this time, if we do
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: the exact same thing, then suddenly Benjamin Mettyahu will forget
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: that he's a warmongering prime minister and just do whatever
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: we ask him to. Although having said that, I'm pretty
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: sure if you locked him in a room with Gretethunberg,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: sooner or later he'd break. I'll do whatever you want.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Just shut up up, I mean stop.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: All she has to do is say how dare you
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: he's going to go you know what? Granted, you're right,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: you got me.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: This is exactly what happened. Of course, when when she
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: did actually get taken into custom of by the Israelis,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: just say, you know, please tell my government to come
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: and get me there, breaking action law. Like the Israelis
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: couldn't get rid of her quick enough. They're like, oh
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: my god, look yeah, we'll drive you to the airport.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Literally we will literally physically here. You're at the airport.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Here's your passport, here's your ticket. Go anywhere you want.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: We don't care, just anywhere.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: But he would you believe there may actually be someone
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: more annoying than greater too? And we have found her
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: in Canada. She is an MP over there. Her name,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: funny enough, is Lee of Ghars. And I'm not sure
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: if there's any connection here whatsoever. But well, I don't
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: even know how to explain this one.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Just watch it.
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: Deal with the ongoing genocide. M I W G two
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: s l g B t q I A plus this
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: is abhorrent.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: Was she like reading out her password or is that
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: from the parody video?
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: So can we just can we show that again?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I need to hear her say that again, he is
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: uh is leah ghazan giving out a password or something.
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: Deal with the ongoing genocide of m M A w
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: G two s l g B t q q I
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: A plus. This is abhorrent.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: So so the abhorring genocide against the m M I
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: w G two s l g B t q q
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I A plus That apparently means missing and murdered Indigenous women,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: girls in two spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender queer questioning
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: into sex and a sexual plus that they're now in
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the el BT.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: They being genocided in like Gaza or talking.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: About So they're now saying that if you're missing or murdered,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: you can identify. You can you can identify as missing
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: or murdered.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: If you're missing and murdered I Indigenous woman specifically.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Okay, so isn't is it murdered already implied by the
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: genocide bit.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a good point.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: You don't say the genocide of murdered, genocide genocide against.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: You've got her there, Joe, you got to you got it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: That's the logic. I'm going to go out on a
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: limb here and say I think that's at least one
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: letter too long.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: You're right, but you know it is out of control.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: And just bear in mind, this is Liah Garzan.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: She is an MP.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: She's actually a member of the Federal Parliament of Canada.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: She is an elected official. How embarrassing to have somebody
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: like that representing your country going on these you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: element o P alphabet spaghetti rants.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, who is actually taking her? Seriously?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Believe she said it was m M I w G
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: two scl GBT double QA A plus people, Is.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: That a WiFi?
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Is that a wife?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: See how I get into the wife the way.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Said it so prophetically, She's studied her whole life, her
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: whole career, She's.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Counted it, she's committed it to memory.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've got to say that is impressible as
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: crack as as it is. The fact that she can
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: just rattle that off without notes is like amazing.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: She's she's she's quite incredible.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: How much practicing in front of the mirror, do you reckon?
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: I've got to got to make it sound natural. I've
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: got to make it sound you know, to make it
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: roll off the time.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: As natural as possible.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Let's go to the UK now where nearly four thousand
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: offenses were committed in churches and places of worship last
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: year alone, four thousand, leaving many rural communities reeling this
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: is happening. So this is more than ten crimes every
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: day target churches across the UK. We've got the statistics
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: for you. According to the Countryside Alliance, three point six
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: thousand records of theft, burglary, criminal damage, vandalism and assault,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy five crimes of different categories. Ten
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: crimes took place at churches and places of worship every
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: day and three point eight thousand offenses and just under
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: four k were committed in churches and places.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Of worship last year alone.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: This is according to Freedom of information requests.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I think this is highly.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Concerning, particularly when you think the UK is built on
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Judeo Christian values. Where is the respect for Christianity now?
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Where has that level of respect gone?
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Where people are just going in now and committing such
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: horrible crimes against churches. Also think it's a shameful reflection
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: of Britain. The other issue I had with this when
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I was googling it to find out some more information
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: about this tonight, It's gotten barely any.
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: Media coverage over in the UK.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: It was only really on gb News that they were
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: covering this quite extensively and doing interviews on it, which
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: makes me think, I mean, if this happened to mosques,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: if mosques were being targeted, if it was a synagogue,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: when we hear about synagogue attacks all the time, this
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: would be investigated. But why is it when it comes
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: now to Christianity in the world, it seems to just
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: get fobbed off like it's not important.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Well, they would because it includes places of worship. If
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: there were attacks against synagogues and mosques, that would also
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: be included in these numbers.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: We should know.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: But you'd imagine people would be jumping up and down
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: a lot more if that's what was happening, because you know,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: politically Islamophobia and anti Semitism.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Are big issues.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: But if there's ten a day, four thousand in a year,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: they can't all be happening in mosques and synagoguees. They
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: must be happening in churches. And there are examples of
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: you know, they're having stain glass windows broken and people
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: turning up and assaulting people and all this sort of stuff,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and not that a place of worship should be any
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: more special than any other building when it comes to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: a crime being committed. But you must think that if
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: it were happening in other places of worship, other than churches,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: that it would get more media attention than it is.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and also I mean they are different from other
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: buildings I think. I mean, most churches are open to
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: the public. People can just come in, they can wander around.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: You know, you rely on you rely on people's sense
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: of respect to sort of ensure against that sort of behavior,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: and it seems now it is not working. I think
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: I have to confess. I should confess. I think I
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: once stole a sign that said that no confetti allowed
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: from my rebellious anti religious teenage years. I've now come
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: full circle and I would lynch my former self for
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: doing that, But it is it's a great shame.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Indeed, someone else who has been a great shame, of course,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: that former Prince Andrew Andrew mount Batton, Windsor, and he's
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: been having a hard time of it lately. Of course,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: after he was charged or sorry it wasn't charged, he
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: was arrested over misconducting public office, and he hasn't had
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: too many friends, but apparently over Easter he's had a
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: little visit. This is from the Telegraph in the UK.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: They see the Duke of Edinburgh, better known to the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: public as Prince Edward, visited Andrew and sandrig him over
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the Easter weekend. He is said to be worried about
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: his brother's mental state. In the face of extreme public
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: pressure and continuing police investigation. The Duke and his wife
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Sophie had dinner with Andrew to talk things through. Now
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: they're certainly not coming out in public to defend the feller,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: but clearly they're concerned about his mental state and that
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe he may do something that they
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: wouldn't want him to do to himself. You can't understand why,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: given the position he is currently in. But they're not
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: going to come out and talk about it. They're just
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: very quietly going to make sure that he doesn't top himself.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: No.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Well, and actually if you look on the screen now,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: this is one of the latest pictures of Andrew. He's
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: been reduced to just mounting his horse.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: He's been seen on his.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Horse property and his rural can you too stop? I
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: can't say anything without these. He's on his horse. He's
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: on his horse in Sandringham Caleb. He says all he
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: can do is now ride a horse.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Indeed, well just have more about that during the break.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: After the break, we'll get into the papers. Diesel has
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: now hit record prices. You thought it couldn't get any worse.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Have I got something to show you?
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Don't go away.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Let's take a look what's happening in the world tomorrow.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: If you are not aware of what's happening in the
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: world tomorrow, make sure you watch the Bond Report at
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: five pm and then Opinionated at eight pm, hosted by
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Danika de Giorgio, who has the Australian.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, thank you for the plug, do tune in.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: The OS front page budget spoils of war. Jim Chalmers
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: is set to bank a mammoth eight point one billion
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: dollar windfall in company tax revenues from soaring commodity prices,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: which the Albanezi government will partially use for fiscal repair
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: but also to help underwrite big spending programs and cost
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: of living measures. The Australian can reveal bumper mining exports
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: and prices, which have spiked in recent months a bit
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: global supply chain shocks fuelled by the war Iran are
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: raising expectations among industry leaders and economists for the Treasurer
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: to bank the bulk of revenue windfalls when he hands
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: down his fifth budget on May twelve. Well, I mean,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure we can be necessarily surprised by this,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: but I think Jim chalmers spending has come as a
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: surprise to him as well. I look forward to seeing
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: what happens in this budget, and no doubt it'll be
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: blamed on the overseas conflict.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Well, I think the takeout messages that the war and
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Iran has been fantastic for everybody. Correct, man, We've got
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: our cease fire, They've got excellent revenue. They can use
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: it to pay down debt. They can also use it
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: to give to us punters for cost of living relief.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, who doesn't win, apart from anyone who has
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: to actually drive a car.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know indeed, And I noticed as well on
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the front of the yours as we can bring the
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: front page back there next to the story there, they've
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: got the images of the.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: War and it is in the corner. So this is peace. Yes.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Can I say if I was Donald Trump, I would
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: be pretty pissed off at Benjamin Naho right about now, and.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I think Trump sort of alluded to, well, remember when
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: he said they had no iffing idea what they were doing.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: I think we might actually say a repeat of that
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: kind I speak.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Indeed, and he was quoted in Time magazine I think
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: it was last week saying, you know, I will dictate
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the terms that this ends on. And when I say stop,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Israel will come with me. So I suspect there may
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: be some words being had there on the front of
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the courier mail on all of these issues.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: It's more words on newspapers. What a surprise diesel record.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: As peace in balance, the press of diesels hit its
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: highest points since hostilities broke out in the Middle East,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: putting increased pressure on truckes and farmers and increasing the
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: cost of doing business. Despite the increase, Federal Energy Minister
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen refused to establish a new Zealand style fuel
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: dashboard for Australians to check supplies. It comes as the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: fragile truce in the Middle East is under threat after
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: a run block chips from passing through the Strait of
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: horror move. So everything is fine is basically what we
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: should read into that can't they do a fuel dashboard
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: so you can see what's floating around in the city.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I'm surprised that they don't, to be honest, but I
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: remember we saw the Northern Territory newspaper front page the
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: other day that it was five dollars aliter diesel up
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: in the top end. So I wonder how long it's
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: going to take now for it to spread across the
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: rest of the country.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we could have a giant global version of the
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: fuel check app. Yeah, I'm seeing the price of LPG.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Love it now at your local servo, you could say,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: you know whether or not your favorite LPG tanker was
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: stuck in the Gulf of Horn Moon. Yes, I mean
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: that might be a bit anxiety. What would you do
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: with that information?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I just I watched the tankers come in off my
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: balcony at Bala, and I watched them come up and
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: pull in. So I should go out and check tonight
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: actually and see whether there is one tied up. At
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: the moment, I can tell you when the fuels coming, you.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Just knock on the hull and if there's.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Some thanks before you take it out.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Anyway, I'm to the Mighty Daily Telegraph, which has splashed
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: with the simple header send in the Jets. Former PM
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: urges Australia to join the war that is exclusive by
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: our good friend and colleague here, James Morrow. Former Prime
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Minister Tony Abbott has warned that Australia risks being seen
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: as a weak country for not participating in the fight
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: against the Iranian dictatorship, and has urged the nation's leaders
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: to join our US allies in the Middle East, saying
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: a country that's not prepared to stand up for freedom
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: can't expect to keep it. In an opinion article in
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Today's Daily Telegraph, make sure you pick it up, mister
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Abbitt says that just as Australian forces helped in the
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: fight against Islamic State a decade ago, the RAAF should
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: be doing so again right now. In the government's defense,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: I think we're doing more than anyone else apart from
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: the US and Israel. I mean, we're sent We've sent
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: the wedge tail plane.
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: That was to the UAE. Wasn't it to protect the
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: gold But.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: We're also as using the information that that gathers to
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: share with the Americans. I mean, the Americans don't really
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: need our help it's more just for optics than anything else, Senesa.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: And we're sending, we're sending, says people.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: He asked for.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure if Prime minist has also been
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: very unclear on what we have what Trump has asked
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: us for.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: I think there is some confusion as to whether or
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: not an official request or a detailed official request has
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: actually been made.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, either there was a request or there wasn't
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: correct Trump says there was.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: So why would Trump have to lie about that? What
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: does he gain out of lying about that?
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Because Trump often says things for reasons that are entirely
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: based in what has transpired, in what you and I
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: might well, what.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Does an anthony come out then and can clarify what
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: has been requested and what has not many But again
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have a spine.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: That's the problem with this.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: Trump's gone after I don't think it's at all. I'm
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: very proud of the way Australia's hand. Trump also went
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: after everyone in Europe, NATO, Japan, South Korea, and we're
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: the only ones have actually put apart from US and Israel,
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: where the only ones US.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Help we we are Okay, let's move on to the
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: gold Coast bullet and e bike fire hell. A Gold
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Coast man's Miami home has been destroyed in a fire
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: believed to have been started by an e bike battery,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: just a week after his father was diagnosed with terminal
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: cancer and given three months to live. Father of two, dannymccall,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: received a call from his neighbor on Good Friday telling
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: him his Pheasant Courthouse had gone up in flames. Look,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: this is not the first e bike or e battery
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: issue that we've seen when it comes to causing these fires.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: We've seen it all over Sydney as well. Now I've
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: got to ask you, gentlemen. Also on the front page
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: of the Gold Coast Influenza Capital. Do you know any
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: of these influences that are on the front page?
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Can you name it?
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: I know, is influenza a influenza?
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Well, apparently the Gold Coast has been crowned Australia's unofficial
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: influenza capital, as content creators from across the country a
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: band in their home cities for the glitter Strip in
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: droves and there they all are.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: I've got it. I'm definitely not under the influence because
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: I as discussed the meeting, I have no idea. Who
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: any of those peop are I recognize a single one.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: A Tammy Himbro. I know she's on the social media
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: service Kayla. It seems I think only know who she
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: because she's from Adelaide. And there's a bloke on the
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: left hand side there who I've seen.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: His videos pop up personal trainer.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: There you go, but that's not unreasable. I mean they're
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: all under seventy, so they're not. Really it's a good start.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: You knew all of them. I know all of them.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: I do know all of them. I've watched him any
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: TikTok video.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Well, and it's not sure that says for you very quickly.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: On the front of the Herald Sun tomorrow, it's his
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: first cab off the rank. A sixteen year old girl
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: accused of a terrifying carjacking where a knife was held
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: to a taxi driver's throat is the first team ordered
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: to face a higher court under the Allen government's adult
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: time for violent crime laws. There you go. We shall
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: see how all of that transpires in Victoria. After the break,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: some of the weirder and wackier stories floating around, including
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: a woman who worked for the police and said she
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: deserved compensation because she used her.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Computer mouse too much.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Don't go a late now. Look, I think we've all
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: been to a restaurant or somewhere and they get the
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: order wrong.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: It need's annoying. But Danika, is it this annoying?
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Completely bagged that up. I was to Joe and then
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the grab came on. But anyway, what you saw there
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: was a bloke pulling a gun because they gave him
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: the wrong sauce in the chicken shop.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: That's exactly right, Caleb, and it's great to be here
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: on Sky News as I've made a few changes. No.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Marvin Kadia, eighteen years old, so old enough to know better,
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: pulled a fake gun on a chicken shop operator after
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: he asked for dips of garlic, sauce and mayonnaise with
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: his meal, which was, I know you want to know,
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: three chicken legs, chips and a drink. He then returned
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: to his flat. Footage showed him rummaging through the bag
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: of food and counting the number of dips he had
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: been given. After discovering he had been given the wrong number,
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: he was seen pacing around the flat while on the phone.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: We know where this is going. And then he made
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: his way back to the shop and shouted to the
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: staff member, I asked for three garlics and three mayo's.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: That was great, and then pulled out again.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: And he then yelled out open the door and he
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: leapt onto the counter, cocked the weapon, grabbed the worker's
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: wrist and pointed the gun in his head and said,
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: I'm going to kill you.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: You mad? Now I think he is mad. I'm sorry.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: You don't pull a gun for the wrong source.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Now he could qualify as one of these, but I
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: got another one for you.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Don't.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Of the day today's entries Phyllis Ung, who worked for
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: the South Australian Police Service, and The Advertiser reports that
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: she alleged that she sustained work related injuries to her wrist,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: neck and lower back in twenty sixteen. Those injuries, the
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: ESSA Employment Tribunal herd came from her excessive use of
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: a computer mouse over a period of three days, coupled
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: with quote unquote workstation strain. She has twice tried to
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: sue the South Australian Police for compensation because she used
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: her mouse too much.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Hopefully she's failed, but come.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: On, people speak of that compo claim I could get.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Seriously well well, in the words of Mary Poppins, feed
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: the birds tuppens a bag.
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: I think this Sydney man takes it to.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: A whole new level.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, that is in the streets of Sydney, where cockatoos
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: are flocking to this man. He keeps feeding them and
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: they're following him around everywhere. Apparently birds remember people.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: The irony is that the whole operation was going really,
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: really well for him, but then he got cocky.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: When you said going to show vision of a Sydney
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: man with birds flocking to him, I thought it was
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: going to be a video.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us tonight. Up next
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: to the reader panning his show, good night,