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Show 66: The heresy of "once saved always saved" · The Uncensored Catholic

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Hey, y'all, welcome today's show. Hopefully the audio will be a little
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bit better than yesterday, and a few issues with the microphone. Yesterday it
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seemed to be picking up background noises like every time I would shift in my
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leather chair rather rather than the clarity of my words. But let's just jump
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right in. Today is going to be an interesting show, probably gonna cover
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a lot of ground. Did a gospel reflection from Mizzy of Day today and
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we got into what I would call the heresy of once Saved, always Saved.
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That is actually a doctrinal tenet of most mainline Protestantism these days that has
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unfortunately infected many Catholics in their belief. We'll get into that it is a
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true heresy, it's not biblical, it goes against the teaching of Christ,
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and it's incredibly dangerous. It's really one of the most dangerous false teachings in
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Christianity today. But first of all, will start with the questions and answers
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from radio replies, as we usually do. The questioner asked the priests or
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actually posits I guess you would say, he asserts the giving up of religion
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has made no change in me. For good or evil, for sorrow or
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happiness. They answer, if you ever had a religion and it did not
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have any influence upon you, then you would not have experience any change in
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being without it, I should say, in being without it, you would
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perceive a difference in favor of the goodness and happiness. If you became a
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really practical Catholic, you would then know the peace of Christ, the peace
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the world can not give. And that is absolutely true. It's hard,
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you know. I meet so many people who say they're atheists or they're agnostics,
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so they're just they vaguely believe in Christianity, but they're not practicing.
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And I tell them, look, this is what it's done for me,
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and they can't understand because they haven't experienced it. And I'm not sure how
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to breach the experiential divide. But there are many things we can't understand until
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we've experienced them. Could you tell someone's water, tell someone that water is
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wet, had they never touched water. Could you explain the beauty of a
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sunset if someone had never seen a sunset. I don't know, I don't
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know. I struggle with that anyway. The person and says the laws of
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nature regulate all, and I worship only at her altar. While book written
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in what nineteen forty? And that's the neopagan culture of the New Age movement
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today. So remember there's nothing new under the sun. They answer the laws
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that they answer. Laws don't float around without a lawgiver. If nature has
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laws, they have been imposed by a lawgiver. All legislation supposes a legislator,
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and who authorizes you to specify that particular form of religion. Surely the
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one who is to be worshiped has the right to specify how he shall be
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worshiped. Remember, as Christians, we believe in a revealed religion. The
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person goes on, you say that religion is necessary. I say that it
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is positively evil and degrading. It restrains our freedoms. Is that not the
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liberal credo? Is that not everything that the progressive movement teaches? They answer,
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Since religion spells freedom, freedom from vice, from all injustice and one
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of charity. There is absolute freedom. You must be free from vice and
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subject to virtue, or free from virtue and subject to vice. And that
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is what we see in our culture today. We have our culture America,
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our society and Western Europe, Canada, etc. You know, most of
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South America as well, that has trended towards socialism and away from Christianity has
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absolutely become subject to vice. Remember a hundred thousand people died of overdoses on
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finnale last year. One hundred thousand people. That we're here in two thousand
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twenty three, interacting with us, productive members of society, perhaps loved by
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people, loving people, they're gone. Another more than fifty thousand people committed
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suicide last year. Think about that. Think about what's the largest city in
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your me where I'm sitting right now, I'm not home. It would probably
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be Fayetteville, North Carolina. I guess it's a town of about a quarter
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million people, including the military. You know, it's a big military town.
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Certainly around it. The largest cities are far smaller. I think of
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Lumberton, North Carolina, which is about twenty thousand people, including the outlying
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areas a few quaver arena much smaller. I think. I would say Row,
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the state capital of North Carolina, would probably have a population of And
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again this is including some bedroom communities, not just the metro area. Most
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people don't live in Raleigh, they work in Raleigh, just like most capitals
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of around one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand people. And imagine they're
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all dead, They're all gone. That's that's the equivalent of a regular nuclear
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bomb dropped on a city. I mean, what would happen, you know,
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if Russia or North Korea shot a missile at a normal sized, average
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sized city in America and killed one hundred and fifty thousand people. We lost
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three thousand, nine to eleven. It broke my heart. It changed the
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world as we knew it. We lost about, as you know, a
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few more than that. Well, I shouldn't say a few. I don't
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want to minimize anything of soldiers in the war following. We lost fifty thousand
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young men in Vietnam. And think of all the protests against the Vietnam War.
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A hundred and fifty thousand people died last year due to fentanyl. We're
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suicide. There's no outrage, No one seems very concerned about it whatsoever.
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Add to that all those who died from violent crimes. That's what happens in
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a society that walks away from Christianity, from Christian morals and doctrine. The
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man who is not ruled by a virtue will be ruled by vice, and
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vice being sinned the wages of sin or death. Most of those people who
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died of finnyl probably died accidentally. They didn't want to overdose, but no
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one is. Our government is certainly not doing anything to stem the foe of
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Finnel across our southern border. If anything, they're encouraging it. The liberal
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communities are facilitating drug addiction, whether directly by giving them the equipment to do
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so or just allowing homelessness, subsidizing addiction through various welfare programs, and then
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the suicides. The suicides often among young people that have no hope because secularism
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is hopeless and that's what they're taught in school. It's not the promises of
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liberalism, the promises of secularism, the so called freedom they offer, always
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ends in despair, hopelessness, violence, and death. And that has been
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true in every culture in which has been promoted. Don't believe me, go
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back and look at a pre World War two Germany. Pre World War two
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Germany embraced homosexuality, pornography, sato masochism, you know, the first country
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to break away from Catholicism. The Lutheran nation very quickly, within just you
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know, a few generations became godless, began to worship science and so called
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psychology, so called science of psychology, which is nothing but a secular ideology
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in government bureaucracy, and very quickly degenerated into hell on Earth and then spread
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that hell to the rest of the world. In World War Two, the
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ideology of progressivism or socialism, or the Masonic Order or whatever you want to
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call it, was very much driving that they called humanism. They were humanists,
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and they did not recognize the Church, tradition or God. And you
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know, they said certain people just deserve to live and other people should be
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exterminated, so they didn't continue polluting the gene pool. Very same thing here
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happened right here in America, our leaders Woodrow Wilson, Franklin, Delano Roosevelt,
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Margaret Sanger. Oh, I could go on, I could George Bernard
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Shaw, who I think was the first person to publicly advance the idea of
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gas chambers to rid the earth of the undesirables. They began to worship a
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perfected idea of the human race, which would be essentially English and German.
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Get rid of all the Catholics, get rid of all the Jews, you
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know, get rid of all the Gypsies, get rid of all the undesires
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of black folk, get rid of all the Blacks and Mexicans, any people
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of color. They wanted this pure secular, essentially atheistic at least agnostic,
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obsessed with the politically political ideology race of people. And it led to hundreds
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of millions of deaths through the world wars, through the Holocaust, through communism,
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through abortion, and it's playing out right now in America where feral children
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essentially left to their own devices without parents, raised by the state, pumped
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full of psychiatric drugs. Are you know, in control now? Honestly,
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I mean it's not the school shoot or if he lives beyond that age and
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doesn't commit it a mass atrocity, becomes a bureaucrat and or a school teacher.
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And yeah, they are absolutely living out the natural consequences of the ideology
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that rejects God. And it began with Martin Luther and the rejection of the
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Catholic Church. And it goes on for a while and a Christian culture with
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inherited values and eventually degenerates into the worst atrocities one can possibly imagine. Well,
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moving on to the main topic of today, my article from Mezio day
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E discusses the idea promoted by the Protestant churches. Once saved, always saved.
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This is essentially necessary to Protestant ideology, that or doctrine, I guess
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I should say that rejects confession, rejects purgatory. The Protestants teach that once
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you're saved, no matter what sinds you commit, you're still going to Heaven.
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Well, the Bible doesn't say that. Jesus certainly didn't say that,
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and what inspired it was today's gospel. Jesus said to his disciples, stay
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awake, for you do not know on which day your Lord will come.
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Be sure of this. The master of the house, had he known the
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hour when the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and not let
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his house be broken into. So too, you must also be prepared for
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at the hour to you do not expect the son of man will come,
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who then is the faithful and prudent servant, whom the Master is put in
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charge of his household, to distribute to them their food at the proper time.
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Blessed is that servant whom his master, on his arrival finds doing so.
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Amen, I say to you, he would be put in charge of
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all his property. But if that wicked servant says to himself, my master
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is long delayed, and begins to beat his fellow servants and eat and drink
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with drunkards, the servants master will come on an unexpected day, at an
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unknown hour, and will punish him severely and assign him a place with the
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hypocrites, and there will be wailing, a gnashing of teeth. You know
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when I say that this is a heresy, well, a heresy is anything
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taught as being Christian doctrine that is opposed to Christian doctrine. This is actually
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the one Saved, always Saved doctrine is in absolute opposition of the words of
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Jesus Christ and certainly the teachings of the Catholic Church. It's a cornerstone of
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modern Protestantism, the idea that one is saved for all attorney. Know that
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once one is saved. You know, we'll get into it, you know,
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the Protestant formula, I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and savior.
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Okay, it's a great start. But that's not all God ask of
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you. But they say, once you do that, no sin, no
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matter how grave, can change the Christians eternal destiny for all, eternal destiny
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for heaven of heaven. I mean, given that that's not what the Bible
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actually says. And Protestants claim to believe in the Bible alone as the sole
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authority. They have no basis for this belief. Obviously it's not what the
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Catholic Church teaches. But you know, many Catholics may not formally believe in
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the once saved, always saved heresy, but are guilty of the sin of
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presumption. How many times have you heard someone say God will understand. God's
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not legalistic? Boy? How many times have I heard that God, the
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law giver is supposedly not legalistic? Okay, But one of the worst as
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the presumption is saying I'll have time to set things right before I die.
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Jesus said, just said, you don't know the hour, you know.
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And another passage, the wealthy man had had stored up all, you know,
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he'd had a great harvest, he stored up a lot, and he
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said, I'm good now, you know, I don't have to work anymore.
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And Jesus says you fool. Your very life will be required of you
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this night. The same Jesus who said call no man a fool, right,
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says you fool, Your very life will be required of you tonight.
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I could die while doing this podcast. Literally, I could have a stroke
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and just drop dead while doing this podcast. I don't know what day I'm
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going to die. I might live to be a you know, one hundred
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and plus years old, like my great grandfather ninety in my late nineties,
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like my other great grandfather, or like my grandfather who was exposed to agricultural
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chemicals and industrial chemicals die in my seventies, or like my uncle about fifty
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massive stroke. I don't know what do I know? I have no idea.
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I could be hit by a bus, struck by lightning. I don't
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know. Neither do you. Neither does anyone. And the sin of presumption
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is to say, well, before I die, I'll reconcile with the church,
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I'll go to confession. Get it right. No, no, you
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got to do it today because there may not be a tomorrow. And essentially
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that's the same presumption of the once saved, always saved heresy. I know
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it's it's it's a little different, but it comes down to the same motive,
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the same idea that there's always going to be a tomorrow and God in
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his mercy will overlook whatever I do. Well, it's not actually true,
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not actually true at all. In my book Confirmation, Autobiography of Faith,
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I give the story of really my first formal introduction to this doctrine. Now
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you know, I was raised Protestant, but until I went to a certain
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Southern Baptist university, I was not taught taught the full doctrine of the Baptist
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denomination, which is essentially identical to Methodist and Presbyterian and Lutheran, etc.
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And this is very much part of it. So this is I'm going to
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read you an excerpt from my book The Next Confounding Doctrine, and there had
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doing any of us any good. But I'm not going to belabor that point.
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Just if you can, please buy my book. I really appreciate it,
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and I'm not helping anybody if nobody reads my book. But anyway,
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this passage from the book, I said. The next confounding doctrine to which
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I was introduced were the twin tenants of certain Protestant denomination, actually most Protestant
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denominations. Yeah, it's a mainline. These are mainline beliefs. The first
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is that all sins are equal and the second is that once saved, always
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saved. And of course, as Catholics, we believe in both mortal and
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venial sins. As the Bible teaches, there are certain sins that lead to
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death. Whether its are mortal sins, there are other venial sins which aren't
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as serious. Once saved, always saved. It's not biblical at all.
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Well, neither is all sins are equal. But I mean, you can't
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make any argument from the Bible to support either of these. Really, not
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only these beliefs not support in the Bible at all, but in truth,
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no one actually believes them. Okay, this was kind of surprising to me.
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We were being taught a doctrine that the teachers themselves didn't even believe.
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I'll get into that. I mean it was serious. I've been paying like
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fifty thousand dollars a semester to go to a supposed universe very and I'm being
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taught something that the teachers themselves didn't even believe. Yeah, seriously, before
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you think about sending your kids to a religious school, you might want to
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look at what they're teaching. Because probably the most prominent and premier or Southern
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Baptist university in the United States is a complete and utter joke. I've learned
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that the hard way, and it cost me a lot of money. But
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anyway, they were taught, and we were told we had to accept them,
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but even the professors themselves admitted they could not accept them. It's true.
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It is idiotic to believe that if a kid steals a pack of GOM
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from a gas station at the age of eleven, his sin is equal to
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a mature man who rapes and kills thirty women and then engages in a gun
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battle with the police, killing several officers. Obviously, the kid does not
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incur as much sin in stealing a pack a fifty cent pack of I don't
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even know what Wrigley Spearman gum as a multiple murderer and very evil serial killer.
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Right, Yeah, anybody could admit that. Right. But this is
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a major tenet of the Southern Baptists belief and rejecting Catholic teaching of mortal sin.
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They embrace an untenable position. When confronted, they say, man may
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judge sin differently, but God sees all sin is equal. I answered,
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didn't Jesus say that there was an unforgivable sin? Didn't he say to blaspheme
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the Holy Spirit would not be forgiven. Didn't he also say it would be
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better for Judas had he never been born, indicating that he would not be
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forgiven for the sin of a trained Jesus. Wouldn't that prove that some sins
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are worse than others? Wouldn't the Ten Commandments listing certain specific sins is particularly
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offensive to God imply that sins such as idolatry, murder, theft, and
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adults we are considered more serious to God than matters of violating dietary laws,
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such as were detailed in Leviticus. In answer to that question, I was
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told God forgives all sins. Therefore all sins are equal in the eyes of
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God. God is not legalistic. I replied that God, in his benevolence
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and great love for man, can and will forgive all sins. Does not
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prove that all sin is equal, especially when God himself said otherwise. Several
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Old Testament books lists the penalty for certain sins as death. The Old Testament
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proves that God does have a stated law, and, while perhaps not legalistic
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in human terms, violations of that law has specific penalties. Well. No
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answer was given to me other than that that's what we believe, and that's
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not a logical answer. So I opened my Bible and read to them.
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I was literally sitting in class with a Bible, and I said, Matthew
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twelve thirty one through thirty two. And so I tell you every human sin
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and blasphemy will be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
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And anyone who says a word against the son of Man will be forgiven,
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but one who speaks against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven. Will not
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be forgiven, either in this world or the next. Luke twelve ten.
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Everyone who says a word against the son of Man will be forgiven, but
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no one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven. John chapter five,
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sixteen through seventeen. If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that is
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not a deadly sin, hey, a mortal sin. Novel concept, right,
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It's in the Bible anyway, He says, if anyone sees his brother
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commit a sin that is not a deadly sin, he has only to pray
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to God, and God will give life to this brother, provided that is
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not a deadly sin. But there is sin that leads to death, and
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I am not saying you must pray about that. Every kind of wickedness is
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sin, but not all sin leads to death. In other words, when
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you commit a moral sin, simply saying a prayer and asking God to forgive
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you isn't enough. God actually gave us a vehicle for that. It's called
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the sacrament of confession. And in the Gospel of John he said, those
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who sends you forgive, they are forgiven, and those who sends you retain,
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they are retained. Protestants deny that, and therefore they have to pretend
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that all sins are equal. Well, I was answered with always silence,
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as for once saved, always saved. This one is a direct result of
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the Protestant belief in faith alone and a rejection of Catholic teaching on confession penance.
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Southern Baptists teach that wants a person accepts, and the sin quotes accepts
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Jesus Christ's personal savior, saying a prayer a belief that is all that is
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necessary for salvation. Although although the Baptist denomination was founded obviously upon the sacrament
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of Baptism, many Baptists now believe that Baptism is near. Merely somebody believe
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for faith exception, acceptance of Jesus's Lord, they say, is all that
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is necessary. I asked, quite naturally. So if a person believes in
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Jesus and praise the prayer, Reverend Billy Graham always advised. For instance,
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he always said, Jesus, I accept you as my Lord and savior.
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Or you know I have sinned, please forgive me, etc. He can
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then afterwards renounce his faith, rob a bank, kill people the next day,
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and still go to heaven without any effort of repentance or even being sorry
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for his sins and crimes. Yes, I was told once saved, always
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saved, but a true Christian would not do that. I always loved when
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they said a real, real Christian wouldn't do that. Okay, I hope.
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In my Bible, Saint Paul said in Romans chapter seven, we are
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well aware that the law is spiritual. But I am a creature of flesh
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and blood, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand my
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own behavior. I do not act as I'm mean to, but I do
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the things I hate. While I'm acting as I do not want to.
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I still acknowledge the law is good. So it is not my self acting,
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but the sin which lives within me. And really I know of nothing
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good living in me and my natural self. That is for tho. For
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though the will to do what is good is in me, the power to
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do it is not the good thing I want to do. I never do
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the evil thing which I do not want to do. That is what I
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do. But every time I do what I do not want to, then
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it is not my self acting, but the sin that lives within me.
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So I find this rule that for me, where I want to do nothing
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but good, evil is closest at my side, in my inmo self.
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I dearly love God's law, but I see that acting on my body.
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There is a different law which batters against, which battles against the law in
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my mind. So I am brought to be a prisoner of that law of
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sin which lives within my body. So I said, so, now you
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just taught me yesterday that all sin is equal. So by your doctrine,
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whatever sin tempted Saint Paul, which he never said what it was, even
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if he did not act on it. Because Jesus said that a man who
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lusted in his heart for a woman who was not. His wife was guilty
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of adultery. Whatever he did was just as bad as a bank robber or
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a murderer. Was Saint Paul a true Christian? Well, the professor actually
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answered me, we don't believe in saints. Okay, okay, I answered,
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oh right, Well, Saint Paul addressed his letters, which make up
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a large portion of the New Testament, to the saints at various churches,
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but we'll set that aside. He also wrote in Philippians chapter two, So,
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my dear friends, you have always been obedient. Your obedience must not
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be limited to the times when I am present. Now that I am absent,
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it must be even more evidence. So work out your salvation in fear
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and trembling. Then I shall have reason to be proud on the day of
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Christ, for it will not be for nothing that I have run the race
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and toiled so hard. Indeed, even if my blood has to be poured
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out as a libation of your sacrifice and the offering of your faith, then
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I shall be glad and join in rejoicing. And he went on saying,
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in Collossions, you were once estranged and of hostile and tent through your evil
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behavior. Now he has reconciled you by his death, and that mortal body
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to bring you before himself wholly faultless, irreproachable, as long as you persevere
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and stand firm on the solid base of faith, never letting yourself drift away
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from the hope promised by the Gospel which you have heard, which has been
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priests to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have
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become a servant. It makes me happy to be suffering for you now and
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in my own body, to make up all the hardships that still have to
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be undergone by Christ for the sake of his body the Church. Now,
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I ask, if salvation cannot be lost, and it is given in full
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merely food, belief, and possibly the profession of faith, how can we
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understand Saint Paul's words? Why should the Christians be obedient? Why does he
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warn them to persevere and stand firm of what good is his own personal suffering?
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Most Protestant Bibles translate this verse as Paul saying, filling up what is
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lacking in the sacrificial sufferings of Christ. How can this be? Why should
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Saint Paul worry about how he should finish the race? If the reward is
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the same for all, and he could not lose the prize of salvation.
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It would seem to me by his plain words, as Saint Paul believed,
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he had to complete in himself and in the mission of salvation, and in
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his mission the salvation offered by Christ through constant repentance and effort. After all,
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Martin Luther changed the very words of Jesus to say faith alone, as
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opposed to faith and works, whereas the Bible elsewhere states that faith without works
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is dead, even in the King James version. And Jesus told us unless
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we ate of his flesh and drink of his blood, we have no life
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in us. Do you disagree with the words of our Lord? And what
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if the passage that states if a man will not listen to the church,
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if a man will not listen to the church, let him be under you
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as a pagan, give him over to the devil. If he would not
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accept the authority of the church, presumably such a man's a Christian, or
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else he would not be under the authority of the church. Presumably he had
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believed, professed faith, and been baptized. How can one saved always say
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be valid if the Bible says otherwise. The answer, by a man who
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had graduate degrees in theology and who was a minister, was I do not
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know. I believe that our doctrine is true and it agrees with the Bible.
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I had not claim to understand everything in the Bible. Well, y'all
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know me by now. I can be a little sharp in my tongue,
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and I had to choke back what would have been a snide comment. You
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know, that would have been what I wanted to say. I thought the
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Holy Spirit was sup to guide you at all understanding of the Bible. But
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I didn't say it. I bit my tongue for once, but I did.
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Let's slip out the obvious question. If you do not understand the Bible,
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and those who taught you did not understand the Bible enough to explain such
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passages to you, how do you know that any Baptist, even the authors
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of the doctrine and founders of the denomination, had any better understanding of the
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Bible. He didn't answer. Yeah, it was cold silence. Actually,
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no one spoke to me for days after that. Weeks after that very beautiful
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girl who would just agreed to go out with me stopped talking to me,
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and yeah, she was really beautiful. Anyway, a little while later he
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called me aside privately after he dismissed the class, and he was really honest,
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and I respect him for this. He said, look, I don't
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have the answers you're looking for. Perhaps doctor so and and doctor so and
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so there were heads of departments could help. I realized that he was being
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honest with me and trying to help. I mean, he know, he
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realized I had questions that he couldn't answer, and it was really upsetting him
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that he had never had those questions and didn't have those answers. And then
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he said something that really troubled me more than anything I'd heard. He looked
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at me and said, very honestly and calmly, I have a wife and
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three daughters, and I can't afford to lose my job. By this admission,
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I realized that he was asking me to stop asking him such questions before
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the class. I thanked him for taking the time to talk with me.
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I shook his hand, and I did not trouble him any further. Well,
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I mean, you can see how logic and knowledge of the Bible kept
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getting me into trouble. Eventually, I had no choice but to suffer the
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rejection of my friends and much of my family in converting Catholicism. I certainly
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do not regret it. I do not doubt the faith and earnestness of many
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Protestants who embrace these errors. Their error may be forgiven due to their ignorance,
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refusing to consider in refusing to consider Catholic doctrine as valid. They just
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blanketly believe anything the Catholics believe is wrong, and they don't question. They
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never even know. They're taught Catholics aren't allowed to read the Bible, which
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is false on its face. We all know it's faults, but they believe
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it. They never even ask if they know a Catholic. They say,
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do you read the Bible? Nope, They don't ever ask that. They
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just assume that the Catholic knows nothing about the Bible and isn't allowed to read
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the Bible, And they oftentimes have an arrogance, Oh wow, would I
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put it? They kind of snicker and look down on you because they think
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they know everything, and if you ever question them, they get really angry,
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really angry, because it just undermines everything They believe. It makes him
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question not only their own understanding or authority or whatever you want to say,
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but their parents and their grandparents are the same denomination. It literally undermines their
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very identity. And that's why, I mean, they just sometimes you will
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meet a Protestant that will talk and you find common ground and they don't have
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a real anti Catholic bias. Those who have a real anti Catholic prejudice will
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fly into a rage when you explain to them that what they believe doesn't agree
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with the Bible and what they believe about Catholics is patently false. I mean,
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they can get violent. Seriously. I mean, you'll talk if someone
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will be telling you about the love of God and everything, and suddenly they're
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in your face, ready to kill you. I mean, it's happened many
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times to me, and I mean, honestly, I wonder if it's not
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some form of demonic possession, because all error comes from the devil, and
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Protestantism being opposed to the Church founded and guaranteed by Jesus Christ himself is not
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of God. And even I wonder if maybe the most devout Protestant Christian is
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not somewhat susceptible to demonic influence due to the founding principles of their church.
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I hope not, but I have been in that position where someone's trying to
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tell me, you know, Jesus loves you and you're destined for heaven,
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and they say something that is opposed to what the Bible says, and I
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now it's wrong. And they ask, you know what church you go to?
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I say, I'm Catholic, and suddenly they fly into a full rage,
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like literally on the verge of you know, punching me in the face.
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And where I not, you know, over six feet tassi, I'm
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like sixty four and about two hundred and twenty pounds lean. You know,
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they probably would have. I mean, most people look at me and I'm
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I'm a hill billy with a knife on my belt and I'm a big,
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burly guy, and They're not going to start a fight. But a lot
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of them have been on the verge of that. Men and women, irrational
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violent hate wells up within them in the blink of an eye, and when
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it comes down to even if it's not a demonic influence, which you know,
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I'm starting to think it is, what's your what you say to them,
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in refuting what they say or even disagreeing on like minor points, undermines
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their identity. I mean, I don't even know how to explain it.
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I mean it would be like if you were talking to a Nazi who was
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telling you that, you know, the Aryan race is, you know,
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the best thing out there, and you say, well, you know,
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actually the Jews were right on this, and there we go nuts on you,
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right, That's kind of what you run into. But anyway, never
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forget that while we may be talking about Protestants Protestant doctrine here, Catholics do
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fall into this error, this heresy through the center of presumption. And the
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probably the strongest words Jesus said were about lukewarm Christians, by which he would
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mean Catholics, of course, because there was no other church founded by Jesus,
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those of us who just go through the motions and presume salvation simply for
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being a member of the Catholic Church. He said, he would spit them
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out of his mouth. And to go even further, our Lord absolutely completely
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refuted such heresies, especially this once saved, always saved, or really the
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idea that you can be a Christian and not Catholic I know there's a strong
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statement, but you got to remember all valid Protestant Christianity is based on Catholic
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doctrine and the Bible, written and published and promoted and distributed by the Catholic
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Church. They would have no religion at all without Catholicism. So all Protestant
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belief comes through the Catholic Church. That's why they the church has always said
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salvation comes through the Catholic Church. Jesus said not. And again, you
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know, the Protestant doctrine is faith alone, to believe in Jesus is all
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that's necessary to be saved. But what did Jesus actually say. He said,
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I think it's in Matthew. I'd have to look it up. Not
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everyone that saith to me, Lord Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of
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Heaven. Now it says also in the Bible, no one can call Jesus
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Lord, you know, except through the Holy Spirit. But here he says,
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not everyone that saith to me, Lord Lord, shall enter into the
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Kingdom of Heaven. But he that doeth the will of my Father, who
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is in heaven, he shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Many will
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say to me that day, Lord Lord, have we not prophesied in thy
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name and cast out devils in their name and done many miracles in thy name?
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And I mean, you know, Protestant churches certainly have done many miracles
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and cast out devils and profit. I mean, think again, Jimmy Slaggard.
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I always remember, I grew up on you know, three channels on
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television of the South, and you were gonna watch Jimmy Slaggard and he would
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smack somebody in the head and heal them, and he would cast out demons
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and all that, And what does Jesus say? And then I will profess
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under them? I never knew you. Depart from me, you that work
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iniquity. Everyone therefore, that heareth these my words and doff them, do
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with them. I guess it's what I should say. Shall be likened to
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a wise man that built his house upon a rock. And who does he
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say the rock is but Saint Peter. And the rain fell, and the
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floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon the house, and it
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fell not it was founded on a rock. And everyone that heareth my words
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and doff them not shall be like a foolish man that built his house upon
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the sand, and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the
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wind blew, and they beat upon that house fell, and it was a
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great fall thereof as Catholics, we our faith, our church, our doctrine
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is built upon the one man in the history of the world, to whom
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Jesus said, you are the Rock, and upon you the rock I will
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build my church. And our church teaches that mortal sin committed by a Christian
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will kill the soul and you'll go to hell. The only way to be
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resolved absolved, I should say, absolved of mortal sin, is the sacrament
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of confession, as dictated by Jesus, as ordered by Jesus Christ in the
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Gospel of John, through a Catholic church, through a Catholic priest. The
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priest stands in persona ex christie, in the person of Christ when he enacts
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the sacraments, and the greatest Christian, like Saint Paul, is still in
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danger of losing his salvation, not because of faith, not because of what
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he believes, but because of sin. Once saved, always saved is a
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terrible heresy that probably has done in immeasurable harm. Now, like I said,
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Protestants gonna be forgiven because of their ignorance. They'll figure it out.
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You know, Jesus is going to say to them, you know you believe
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that, but that was wrong. I'm not gonna, you know, necessarily
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hold you accountable because you didn't understand. You were just ignorant. I don't
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know, you know what he's going to say about their prejudice, their hatred
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of his church. But they're gonna get sort of things out in purgatory.
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We believe that, and let I mean, they're going to be grateful on
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the day when they discover the truth of progrey Tory. That's going to be
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their salvation. But us Catholics, we who have the fullness of the Church,
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we're gonna be held to a much higher standard, a much higher standard.
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And just because you were born into the Catholic Church, your parents were
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to Catholic or you were confirmed in the Catholic Church, you know at nine
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years old or whatever, it doesn't mean anything. What it means is you're
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gonna be judged more harshly because you know, you know better and you're doing
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wrong anyway. I am, we all are. That is why we have
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to continually strive and work and try to be better, and try to do
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better, and beg forgiveness, and do our accipentence and our prayers every night,
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and go to confession, and God willing by the end of this life,
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if we have not become pure, become saints by the time we die,
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we'll work it out in purgatory as well. That is a great hope
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we have. But the idea that you know, God and his mercy is
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just going to forgive anything that's that's not biblical. Once saved, always saved,
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is not biblical. Jesus explicitly said to the Pharisees who said they were
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saved just by being descendants of Abraham. He said he could raise up descendants
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of Abraham of the rocks if he want to. It was there. You
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know, they would be saved through their own personal adherence to His commandments,
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not their heredity. And just because you have five generations of Catholics in your
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family, just because you were born or baptized and confirmed into a Catholic Church,
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but you don't go to Mass anymore, it's going to be so much,
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so much you're you You're gonna have so much more guilt and sin.
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Then an ignorant prejudiced, bigoted Protestant. And if you are an ignorant,
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bigoted, prejudiced Protestant, pick up your Bible, read and realize what I'm
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telling you is the God's honest truth. And this once Saved, Always Saved
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idea is a really quick way to go to hell, a really quick way
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to go to hell. It will allow you to excuse the worst actions.
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And I've seen it. I've seen it among very religious people, ministers,
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families of ministers. You know they always say preachers, kids are the worst.
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There's a reason for that. If you believe once Saved, Always Saved,
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you think you can get away with anything. And at the end of
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the day, Jesus was say, I do not know you. I don't
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care if you believe in me. I don't care what you did in my
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name. He said, depart from me. I never knew you. That
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work iniquity. Don't don't let yourself be in that position. I pray that
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I will never be in that position. By no means do I ever hold
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myself up as a paragon of virtue. Very much the opposite. But I
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know one thing Jesus said, Faith alone is not enough. Faith in works,
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faith in works, and that's what Martin Luther had change, and that
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is what began this heresy that has very likely led minute millions of people to
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hell. Martin Luther was an Antichrist, and those who preach doctrines that oppose
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her the postal words of Jesus Christ and the teachings of his infallible church,
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commit heresy and they will be judged as not ministers of God but agents of
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Satan. All right, y'all, but we'll go real serious now, we'll
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go real late, Saint Padre Pio said, Pray, hope, and don't
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worry. Thank God, this summer's almost over. Hurricane came through. Doesn't
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seem to be as bad as people thought it was going to be. It's
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actually a little cooler today, and thank God for that. Anyway, y'all,
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have a great rest of your week and weekend. And you know,
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usually I only do podcast Monday through Thursday, so barring any breaking news or
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events or something I have to weigh into, i'll talk to you on Monday.
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Have a great weekend, enjoy this weather. It's it's really nice today.
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And if you did get hit hard by the hurricane, you're in my
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prayers. That's all I can say, so y'all have a good one.