Latest / Vigilante Vibes Podcast / Ep. 163. Wanda Maximoff full MCU timeline
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- 0:19Hello nerds, comic fans, Marvel geeks and everyone in between.
- 0:24It is Megan from Vigilante Vibes, and today I want to talk
- 0:28about a character that is so universally loved, and if you
- 0:32don't love her, that's a red flag.
- 0:35So today I want to talk about Wanda Max Moff, AKA the Scarlet
- 0:39Witch. But usually I talk about the
- 0:41comics. Today I want to talk about her
- 0:43timeline in the MCU, which has been nothing short of fantastic,
- 0:48but there's been some hiccups as well.
- 0:51But yeah, I want to talk about all about her in the MCU,
- 0:54starting from her very first appearance all the way to where
- 0:57we are now. So even though Wanda Maximoff,
- 1:03AKA the Scarlet Witch, didn't show up the MCU until Avengers
- 1:06Age of Ultron, she ended up with one of the most complex and
- 1:10compelling arcs of the whole franchise.
- 1:13In the comics, Wanda has flipped between hero and villain more
- 1:17than once, and that's carried over into the MCU.
- 1:20Her powers, rooted in chaos magic, are incredibly strong but
- 1:24dangerously unpredictable, and the films have done a great job
- 1:29showing that constant push and pull.
- 1:33Wanda was first introduced as a villain, but over time we got to
- 1:37see the pain and the trauma behind her actions.
- 1:41Her powers were awakened by HYDRA, but really she was just
- 1:45trying to protect the people she cared about.
- 1:47Her journey from villain to hero and eventually back to villain
- 1:51again is rather heartbreaking. As of Doctor Strange in the
- 1:56Multiverse Madness, she's presumed dead, though it's
- 1:59anyone's guess if or when she'll return to MCU.
- 2:02But I think we can all agree together as a fandom that she,
- 2:07the character, is not dead, but a variant of her is, so I'll get
- 2:14to that. While Wanda herself wasn't
- 2:17around in ancient times, the roots of the Scarlet Witch go
- 2:20way back. According to the lore, the demon
- 2:23Scython showed up on Earth in prehistoric times and carved his
- 2:26dark magic into the walls of a temple on Mount Wondergore.
- 2:30He even left behind a throne meant to stay empty until the
- 2:34Scarlet Witch came along. Not Wanda, the Scarlet Witch,
- 2:39someone with the power to reshape and destroy all of
- 2:42reality. Nothing major happens at Mount
- 2:45Wondagore right away, but eventually, at some unknown
- 2:48point in ancient history, that changes.
- 2:50Even though the Scarlet Witch hasn't appeared yet, the dark
- 2:54magic Scython carved into the mountain gets copied into a
- 2:59terrifying book called The Dark Cold.
- 3:01This book is packed with forbidden spells and has the
- 3:04power to corrupt anyone that uses it.
- 3:07It ends up playing a huge role in Wanda's story later on.
- 3:12Fast forward to modern times in Eastern Europe, where the
- 3:15country of Sokovia is being torn apart by war.
- 3:19The details of who's fighting or why aren't really explained, but
- 3:23what matters is that the Maximoff family, Wanda, her twin
- 3:26brother Pietro, and their parents are caught right in the
- 3:29middle of it. To take their minds off of the
- 3:32chaos around them, the family watches old American sitcoms
- 3:35together and also helps them learn English.
- 3:40These shows become a source of comfort for young Wanda.
- 3:43For a for a little bit, just for a little bit.
- 3:47Then everything changes. In March of 1999, a missile
- 3:50crashes into their home. It doesn't explode right away,
- 3:53but the impact kills Wanda and Pietra's parents, leaving the
- 3:56twins trapped under rubble, staring at a bomb for what feels
- 4:00like forever. It was actually days at a time.
- 4:03They sat there and watched the bomb that had Tony Stark's name
- 4:07on it. So that's, that's quite an
- 4:11origin hatred right there. That moment sticks with Wanda,
- 4:15not just because of the trauma, but because of the logo on the
- 4:18missile. Like I said, Stark Industries,
- 4:22she doesn't know who Tony Stark is yet, but from that day on,
- 4:25she and Pietro are determined to find a way to get stronger and
- 4:28protect themselves and their country from ever feeling that
- 4:32powerless again. Growing up in a war zone and
- 4:34losing their parents left Wanda and Pietro feeling powerless, so
- 4:38they started searching for any way to protect themselves and
- 4:41the people they care about. Unfortunately, they ended up in
- 4:44the hands of a Hydra cell where cruel experiments are using the
- 4:49space stone were done on them by Baron Strucker.
- 4:53The results were clear, Pietro gained super speed while Wanda
- 4:57slowly started to develop her powers tied to chaos magic,
- 5:01though at first they were very limited.
- 5:04Wanda never forgot that Stark Industries bomb that killed her
- 5:07family, and she held a grudge against Tony Stark for the pain
- 5:11caused when The Avengers attacked Hydra base and Sokovia,
- 5:15Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver faced off against Earth's
- 5:18Mightiest Heroes for the first time.
- 5:20Wanda's power was more about illusions and messing with
- 5:24people's mind rather than raw strength, and she managed to
- 5:27mess with a few heroes mentally, Stark included.
- 5:32His vision of a destructive future eventually led him to
- 5:35create Ultron. After The Avengers took down the
- 5:39Hydra cell, Wanda and Pietro teamed up with Ultron, not
- 5:42knowing his real plan. Ultron convinced them that he
- 5:46wanted to build a better world, and the twins helped him get the
- 5:49vibranium he needed to build his powerful new body.
- 5:54When Ultron finishes building up his final body, he puts the Mind
- 5:59Stone in it as the last piece. But thanks to the stone, Wanda
- 6:04can finally read Ultron's mind and realizes he plans to wipe
- 6:08out all of humanity, which includes her.
- 6:11So she and Pietro switch sides, help The Avengers stop Ultron,
- 6:16who's trying to turn part of Sokovia into a giant meteor.
- 6:20During the fight, Pietro dies a huge blow for Wanda, who's
- 6:24already lost so much. After Ultron was defeated and
- 6:29with no family left, Wanda officially becomes an Avenger
- 6:32because, like, what else do you have going on?
- 6:35Not long after, the team tracks down Crossbones and Lagos, but
- 6:39he's wearing a bomb vest. Wanda uses her magic to throw
- 6:42him away from Captain America, but he crashes into a nearby
- 6:45building, causing a huge explosion and serious collateral
- 6:49damage. This incident leads to the
- 6:52creation of the Sokovia Accords, which require all superheroes to
- 6:56register with the government. Because Wanda was involved in
- 7:01the explosion, she's kept at The Avengers Compound, where she
- 7:05grows close to Vision. Then she's rescued by Team
- 7:09Captain America and ends up siding with them against the
- 7:13Accords, putting her at odds with her closest friends and
- 7:17even her future love. As Thanos moves closer to
- 7:21getting all six Infinity Stones, The Avengers make their last
- 7:24stand within Wakanda. Since Vision has the Mind Stone
- 7:28embedded in him, Sheree, with help from Banner and Stark,
- 7:31tries to safely remove it before Thanos can grab it.
- 7:35But things don't go as planned. And what happens next is it was
- 7:39it was heartbreaking. Vision convinces Wanda that
- 7:42removing the stone will take too long, so Wanda does the
- 7:46unthinkable. She kills the one she loves in
- 7:49order to save the universe, but Thanos just uses the Time Stone
- 7:54to rewind. That moment rips the stone
- 7:56straight out of Vision's head, right in front of her.
- 7:58Vision dies again, this time painfully, and Wanda has to live
- 8:03through the nightmare twice. Then Thanos snaps his fingers,
- 8:06and Wanda is one of the people who disappears into the dust.
- 8:11After The Avengers travel back in time to collect all the
- 8:14stones. Bruce Banner used them to bring
- 8:15everyone back. Wanda returns, desperate for
- 8:19revenge on the final battlefield at The Avengers complex.
- 8:24She goes head to head with Thanos, telling him that he's
- 8:27taken everything from her, her anger and power nearly to feed
- 8:31him, showing off just how much she's grown.
- 8:34And I want to say, like, how petty is he for saying, I don't
- 8:37even know who you are? I I dug that.
- 8:41After Thanos was finally defeated, Wanda feels more alone
- 8:44than ever. Drowning in grief, she ends up
- 8:48in Westview, New Jersey, where she and Vision had once planned
- 8:52to build a life together. Having lost her family and loved
- 8:55twice, her pain causes her to trap the entire town in a
- 8:59powerful HECS. Inside the HECS Westview becomes
- 9:03a never ending sitcom set with the real people stuck playing
- 9:07roles while still knowing they're trapped.
- 9:09As sad as it is, it's also a really terrible thing for those
- 9:13caught inside. Wanda even creates a fake
- 9:16version of Vision and two kids with her magic, only to lose
- 9:21them when the Hex is finally broken.
- 9:23After taking down the villainous witch act of the Harkness, Wanda
- 9:26unlocks a whole new level of power and finally becomes the
- 9:29legendary Scarlet Witch, way stronger than anything she's
- 9:33experienced before. But losing her magically created
- 9:38husband and kids hits her so hard and she turns to The Dark
- 9:42Cold, a book filled with Sithon's dark magic.
- 9:46The book feeds off her emotional pain and vulnerability as dark
- 9:50magic things tend to do. Using the Dark Cold, Wanda comes
- 9:54up with a plan to find her kids, Billy and Tommy.
- 9:58Even though they don't exist in her reality, which is Earth 616,
- 10:02they do exist in other universes.
- 10:04So she tries to capture America Chavez, who can jump between
- 10:08dimensions to help her track down her children.
- 10:12Meanwhile, Doctor Strange asks Wanda for help, unaware that
- 10:16she's the one putting Chavez in danger.
- 10:19What follows is a wild and destructive chase across
- 10:23multiple realities, but not not as many realities as it should
- 10:27have been for a for a movie called Multiverse of Madness.
- 10:31We saw like 3 so that's just. I just needed someone else to
- 10:37know that Wanda's power is even stronger than Doctor strangers,
- 10:41forcing him to fix up America Chavez and run.
- 10:44Instead of fighting her, the Scarlet Witch leaves a trail of
- 10:47destruction in her wake, wrecking Kumar Taj and killing
- 10:50the powerful Illuminati of Earth 838.
- 10:53While the Dark Cold partly fuels her, Wanda's fully gone down the
- 10:58villain path in a way that no one has really seen before.
- 11:01Eventually, Chavez and Strange figure out that the only person
- 11:05who can stop Wanda is Wanda. Chavez opens a portal between
- 11:10the evil version of Wanda and her kids, and seeing how
- 11:13terrified her children are, snaps Wanda back to reality.
- 11:18Using her chaos magic, Wanda destroys Mount Wanda Gore and
- 11:23the Dark Cold, bringing the whole place down on herself and
- 11:26ending her own life in the process.
- 11:29When Agatha all along dropped, a whole lot of fans thought it
- 11:32might lead to Scarlet Witch coming back.
- 11:34Which is fair because that was a very Scarlet Witch coded show.
- 11:38She was, let's be honest, the the she was a main character.
- 11:43Somehow I think the entire audience watched it thinking
- 11:46we're going to end up seeing Scarlet Witch.
- 11:49Agatha spent her time terrified of Scarlet Witch.
- 11:53Billy. He's just, he was just finding
- 11:55out about Scarlet Witch before he met with Agatha.
- 11:57So she was fresh on his mind too.
- 11:59So she was a very big presence in the show, but she stayed dead
- 12:04through the whole show, leaving her return up in the air.
- 12:08Kevin Feige has hinted that she'll come back eventually.
- 12:11Elizabeth Olsen is totally down to play Wanda again, according
- 12:15to her. If they figure out how to bring
- 12:17her back, you know, that's, that's the whole thing.
- 12:21It has to be done. Well, even though Akthalong
- 12:25didn't bring Wanda back, it reintroduced a character who
- 12:27might be the key to it. Billy, one of Wanda's sons.
- 12:31Well, it actually introduced two sons, but you know, Tommy was
- 12:35there at the end, but Billy was the main character.
- 12:39He basically reincarnated as William Kaplan, who's searching
- 12:44for his twin, Tommy. By the end of the series, Billy
- 12:47has the power to bring Tommy's soul back into another body, and
- 12:51his search for his brother is just getting started.
- 12:54He could potentially do the same for Wanda's soul, but that might
- 12:58mean someone else would have to play her, which I know.
- 13:03Another way Wanda could return and still have Elizabeth Olsen
- 13:08in the role is through Audrey Plaza's character Death.
- 13:12The show hinted that she has resurrection powers, so it's
- 13:15possible she could bring Wanda back as a way to mess with
- 13:18Agatha and Billy while they're hunting for Tommy.
- 13:22But let's be honest, it's probably going to be a
- 13:25multiversal Wanda or her soul. Like she died in Wanda Gore, but
- 13:32her soul is still floating around like Billy and Tommy's.
- 13:35I think that's, I think that's what's going to happen because
- 13:38let's be honest, she's coming back.
- 13:40There's no way she's not. Marvel knows what hit she is as
- 13:44a character. So let's just all wait to see.
- 13:49I, I know we all kind of like, is she going to be in Avengers
- 13:53Doomsday? Is she not?
- 13:55Personally, I don't know. I go back and forth.
- 13:59As of right now, I don't think so.
- 14:01But Secret Wars, absolutely. So, yeah.
- 14:04Plus, we have the Vision Series 2, and I think that's when we're
- 14:08going to see Elizabeth Olsen next.
- 14:14I don't remember when Vision series Vision Quest is supposed
- 14:16to drop, but whatever. So I think we're going to see
- 14:20her in that because I think we're going to get his wife,
- 14:23Virginia. I think that she will be modeled
- 14:25after Elizabeth Olsen. I think that'd be really cool.
- 14:30It might not happen because my theories always suck, but I
- 14:33think it'd be cool. So yeah, so thank you for
- 14:36listening to this entire thing about me rambling about Scarlet
- 14:40Witch. I hope you enjoyed it and let me
- 14:42know in the comments if you liked it.
- 14:44How do you feel about Scarlet Witch?
- 14:46Is she a villain? Is she a hero?
- 14:48Let me know it all. So be sure to like and subscribe
- 14:51and have a marvelous day.