Latest / The Breakfast Club / Best Of Full Interview: Wallo267 Breaks Down His Prison Experience, Inspiring The Youth, His New Book + More
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- 0:58Speaker 3: Wake that ass up the Morning, The Breakfast Club.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Morning, Everybody's Steve j n Vy, Jesse Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy.
- 1:06Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club Jess is on maternity leave,
- 1:09Speaker 1: so Lauren's filling.
- 1:10Speaker 2: In and we got a special guest in the building.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Let it's going down Wallow.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Listen, man, welcome to the Breakfast Club this morning, presented
- 1:17Speaker 3: to you by million dollars worth a game. Listen, man,
- 1:19Speaker 3: we didn't bought the company. Man is good. It's going down. Man,
- 1:22Speaker 3: We're doing it big now. Man, got my brother right here.
- 1:24Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. Listen, Man, listen, I want
- 1:27Speaker 3: to give you before I even start. I gotta give
- 1:28Speaker 3: you your flowers because you man. You me and you
- 1:31Speaker 3: had several phone calls. We had a thousand phone calls.
- 1:35Speaker 3: A couple of years ago. You hit me up. He
- 1:36Speaker 3: was like, Wowow, you need a book. This is years
- 1:38Speaker 3: ago and you was talking about how you and keV
- 1:39Speaker 3: was talking about you, and Kevin Hart was talking about
- 1:42Speaker 3: the man Wallow would be crazy on the audio book,
- 1:44Speaker 3: which I did my on audio book. Shout out to
- 1:47Speaker 3: you know, shout out the Ayana Van's ant also who
- 1:50Speaker 3: did the audio. She did the forward for me. Shout
- 1:52Speaker 3: out to thirteen name a publisher. Man for you, Yes,
- 1:55Speaker 3: for making it happen Simon and Schuster. But we're here now.
- 1:59Speaker 3: You told me, you tell me about the book of
- 2:00Speaker 3: your book. The book changed your life's right and the book,
- 2:04Speaker 3: the book, that's all you kept saying. And now we're here, man,
- 2:06Speaker 3: all with good attentions, you know, and it's game changed.
- 2:09Speaker 4: The book title is perfect for you because there's not
- 2:11Speaker 4: too many people on this planet who come with good
- 2:14Speaker 4: intentions like Wilow does appreciate that.
- 2:16Speaker 2: When did you develop that mentality?
- 2:20Speaker 3: I don't know, Man. I was on the street corners,
- 2:22Speaker 3: I was, I was. I had good intentions on the
- 2:23Speaker 3: street corners. I just, I just, I just wanted to
- 2:25Speaker 3: steal American dream. And I said, man, this shit is
- 2:27Speaker 3: too slow. And I never seen nobody in my neighborhood.
- 2:31Speaker 3: The only people that got respected my neighborhood was a
- 2:33Speaker 3: successful criminals. So even though I was a good person
- 2:36Speaker 3: growing up, my grandma raised me, well my mom, you know,
- 2:38Speaker 3: you know, I was like, I gotta figure this out.
- 2:41Speaker 3: So I said, I got to man, the only people
- 2:43Speaker 3: they respect out is the people that's winning by any means.
- 2:46Speaker 3: And then even in America, I was like, damn, hold up, America.
- 2:49Speaker 3: They only respect the scar face, they only respect the Godfather.
- 2:52Speaker 3: They don't respect nobody else. I gotta go get some money.
- 2:55Speaker 3: So I just figured out, you know, even though my
- 2:57Speaker 3: heart was good, I had to go figure it out.
- 2:59Speaker 3: And that led me to put in most of my
- 3:00Speaker 3: life and and but you know, even in there thirteen years,
- 3:05Speaker 3: right twenty or twenty, I did twenty penitentiary five years
- 3:09Speaker 3: and then out the juvenile system. And even in that,
- 3:11Speaker 3: I remember, you know, over here said all I did
- 3:14Speaker 3: was laughing jail and just do what I needed to do,
- 3:16Speaker 3: educate myself because I realized that, and to the point
- 3:19Speaker 3: where somebody said I was one of the nicest dude
- 3:20Speaker 3: in prison because I knew why I was there. I
- 3:24Speaker 3: did mine so I was accountable for my bullshit, so
- 3:27Speaker 3: you know, and that helped me change and develop into
- 3:29Speaker 3: what I become today. And you know, I'm just happy
- 3:33Speaker 3: to be here and I and I try my best
- 3:37Speaker 3: to share all the knowledge that I got, as you know,
- 3:39Speaker 3: with our people, to show let's listen, we're bigger than
- 3:41Speaker 3: what y'all think we are. Because I always say this,
- 3:43Speaker 3: and it's crazy to me. It's like, you know, back
- 3:46Speaker 3: in the day, we didn't have nothing, but we had
- 3:48Speaker 3: everything because we had each other and that was important.
- 3:51Speaker 3: And it's like it seemed like now we find so
- 3:55Speaker 3: many rays, so many reasons not to deal with each other,
- 3:58Speaker 3: and it's like, god, damn you working for you go
- 4:04Speaker 3: on social media, it's like who you're working for. But
- 4:06Speaker 3: I had to realize something. A lot of us don't
- 4:08Speaker 3: want to look in that mirror and deal with it.
- 4:10Speaker 3: I don't hate envy because if his money, his cars,
- 4:15Speaker 3: his family's marriage. I hate envy because envy getting love
- 4:19Speaker 3: for doing something that I always wanted to do, but
- 4:21Speaker 3: I ain't have enough heart to go out here and
- 4:22Speaker 3: do it. No, I'm not talking about that. I'm just
- 4:25Speaker 3: talking about in general. Yeah, he do got that Beijing,
- 4:28Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like Beijing give medals, but but
- 4:30Speaker 3: like this and theraist, damn, okay, you better be paying
- 4:33Speaker 3: you the way you promo. But but what I'm saying
- 4:38Speaker 3: is like that's how culture became. It became like this
- 4:41Speaker 3: in social media mede that like a lot of people
- 4:45Speaker 3: got to look in the mirror and say, damn, I
- 4:46Speaker 3: didn't materialize my dreams. And that's the hardest thing to do,
- 4:49Speaker 3: is you know. So it's more easy to say Charlemagne
- 4:52Speaker 3: the sucker, envy this lord, this just this, it's much
- 4:55Speaker 3: more easy to say it than to say, let me
- 4:56Speaker 3: get off my ass and go ahead and do something
- 4:58Speaker 3: with my life. So but it's just it's just sad
- 5:01Speaker 3: out here when you see it now, and it's like
- 5:02Speaker 3: we just I don't know, man, And all we ever
- 5:05Speaker 3: had was each other. That's the only way we ever
- 5:07Speaker 3: made it in life.
- 5:08Speaker 4: Said in the book, you said, it's actually in the
- 5:10Speaker 4: chapter Arm of Good Intentions, you said you screamed out
- 5:13Speaker 4: one day and you made it a daily reminded that
- 5:15Speaker 4: nobody will save.
- 5:16Speaker 3: You, nobody, Especially when I was in prison, I'm like,
- 5:20Speaker 3: we complain in the we doing. I'm like, yo, bro,
- 5:21Speaker 3: we inside these white folks, spot ain't nobody coming, Like
- 5:25Speaker 3: if this shit go off anything else, we're gonna be
- 5:27Speaker 3: locked in these selves, Ain't nobody coming. But that's the
- 5:29Speaker 3: same thing in the ghetto. Ain't nobody never come and
- 5:31Speaker 3: save nobody? Who saves him? What was the change for you?
- 5:34Speaker 1: What was because you said you were in and out?
- 5:36Speaker 2: What was the change?
- 5:36Speaker 1: You said, Ya, I gotta get this right and I
- 5:38Speaker 1: gotta change myself.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Like to be realistic, man, I got tired tired of
- 5:43Speaker 3: being in jail with a bunch of with a bunch
- 5:44Speaker 3: of niggas. You see what I'm saying. I wanted to
- 5:46Speaker 3: take a butt nigga shower, you know what I mean.
- 5:48Speaker 3: I couldn't do that. I wanted to sleep neked in
- 5:50Speaker 3: the bed. I couldn't do that because I'm in the SECNA.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Sell you, I don't know if he might wake up
- 5:53Speaker 3: in the middle of night, be like, yo, man, let
- 5:54Speaker 3: me I need parts of that, like what we're doing
- 5:59Speaker 3: straight up? Wake up in the middle of the night.
- 6:01Speaker 3: You're like, hey, my man, let's let's figure something.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Out, you know what I mean. So I don't know.
- 6:06Speaker 3: I'm just being real because listen, you know what's crazy.
- 6:08Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons I made it through
- 6:10Speaker 3: jail so smoothly because I was always a comedian doing
- 6:13Speaker 3: a low you know what I'm saying. I was always funny.
- 6:15Speaker 3: They was like, hey, I mean I was because I
- 6:17Speaker 3: was in there scared to death. You know how dudes
- 6:19Speaker 3: come on from jail. I'll be trying to wonder that
- 6:21Speaker 3: I did all this time in jail. I'll be like,
- 6:23Speaker 3: what program was you on that you wasn't scared in jail?
- 6:25Speaker 3: That you was just so tough because I was scared
- 6:27Speaker 3: to death. Soon al they listen. As soon as that
- 6:29Speaker 3: judge gave me them numbers and they you know, you
- 6:31Speaker 3: had your shoe, had your thing together. It ain't about nothing.
- 6:33Speaker 3: Me like this, it ain't about nothing. I looked at her.
- 6:37Speaker 3: You all right, say my little words back before you
- 6:38Speaker 3: see them. It's back and forth. Word player I had
- 6:41Speaker 3: with the judge is that he be back on, walked
- 6:43Speaker 3: in the joint. You know what I mean. Now you
- 6:45Speaker 3: gotta do the walk back in because now you're going
- 6:46Speaker 3: back into the cages with everybody looking at you. When
- 6:48Speaker 3: you come down. What they give you what ith ain't
- 6:50Speaker 3: about nothing, man. They gave me a little twenties man.
- 6:52Speaker 3: That shit ain't enough, a little toyle. Listen, that's the
- 6:54Speaker 3: that's the cat. That's the cat. By the time I
- 6:57Speaker 3: get to my my cell, lead on that I threw
- 6:59Speaker 3: that tie up, crying like a baby man for a
- 7:01Speaker 3: new born. And then and then once you the shackles
- 7:04Speaker 3: hit you box like an animal, the shackles going from
- 7:07Speaker 3: your arm to your feet. You get upstate, you hit
- 7:10Speaker 3: that penitentiary yard and you like, well, my mom, man,
- 7:15Speaker 3: oh ship, I ain't know it was like this. I'm
- 7:17Speaker 3: seeing people with knights longer than the giraffe trunk. I'm like, Ship,
- 7:20Speaker 3: I old you I was.
- 7:21Speaker 5: I was.
- 7:22Speaker 3: I went to the penitential when I was seventeen, but
- 7:23Speaker 3: I hit the big prison yard when I turned eighteen.
- 7:25Speaker 3: I was in Dallas Penitentiary in Pennsylvania, and uh, that was.
- 7:28Speaker 3: That was a different type of Joe.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Man.
- 7:30Speaker 3: I'm seeing people get married in the yard and all
- 7:31Speaker 3: that shit. I'm like, I ain't trying to be nobody's wife.
- 7:34Speaker 3: I ain't signed up for this ship, so I'm not
- 7:36Speaker 3: straight up. I'm looking like married in the yard. People
- 7:39Speaker 3: was getting married in the yard.
- 7:40Speaker 2: I said, damn, man, real weddings though.
- 7:43Speaker 3: It was real weddings like it wasn't though like if
- 7:46Speaker 3: you got the Bible when you got somebody that's officially.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Like you were just in the yard. I was walking
- 7:51Speaker 2: the yard.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Was I was in the backroub because I was walking
- 7:56Speaker 3: in the yard. So I'm like, I'm sitting there and
- 7:58Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, Ship, i ain't trying to get married
- 8:00Speaker 3: in the yard, man, Damn, like want some real shit.
- 8:04Speaker 3: And then I'm seeing people getting stabbed in on I'm like, yo,
- 8:06Speaker 3: I'm not trying to So I would go to my
- 8:08Speaker 3: cellar and be like Yo, what the fuck is going on?
- 8:10Speaker 3: I ain't sign up for this because nobody tell you this,
- 8:12Speaker 3: because only stories that we hear back in the hood
- 8:14Speaker 3: about jail is that you come home and you get
- 8:16Speaker 3: rewarded and you get acknowledged and you tough and all
- 8:18Speaker 3: this other shit. You get muscles. But I'm like, I'm like, damn,
- 8:22Speaker 3: ain't nobody talking about the scary part. So I had
- 8:24Speaker 3: to be the one to tell the scary part, to
- 8:25Speaker 3: tell a real part because I was scared. Especially listen
- 8:28Speaker 3: when I first listened, no bullshit, I get up to
- 8:31Speaker 3: the big penitentiary. This was this was the one. I
- 8:34Speaker 3: get up to the big penitition. It is, so why
- 8:35Speaker 3: get always fuck with me about it? Because I need
- 8:36Speaker 3: to tell you stories. I get up to that, stories
- 8:38Speaker 3: from the cell. So I get up to the penitentiary.
- 8:41Speaker 3: It's shower time. I go down there. I got my
- 8:44Speaker 3: boxes on.
- 8:45Speaker 2: And all that.
- 8:45Speaker 3: So I'm like, damn, we go down there, and this
- 8:46Speaker 3: is my first time in a real cause. It's like
- 8:49Speaker 3: it was like I started. I went to the penitentiary
- 8:54Speaker 3: when a young When a lot of younger dudes started
- 8:56Speaker 3: to go like you was getting certified as adult, they
- 8:58Speaker 3: created a new law. So a lot of time it
- 9:00Speaker 3: was no young boys in the one penitential. I went
- 9:02Speaker 3: to dollars penitentials, mostly old heads, and they had the
- 9:05Speaker 3: most lifers in the state of Pennsylvania at this time.
- 9:09Speaker 3: So you could be in a cell with anybody. You
- 9:10Speaker 3: could do one year of being a cell with a lifer.
- 9:12Speaker 2: It don't matter.
- 9:13Speaker 3: So I go, I go to go to the shower.
- 9:14Speaker 3: So I got my towel on, my boxes on, and
- 9:18Speaker 3: when I went to the shower, right, I go down there,
- 9:21Speaker 3: steamed up in everything. The shower is probably like it's
- 9:24Speaker 3: probably like in that joint, probably maybe fifteen shower heads
- 9:28Speaker 3: and a block got one hundred and something dudes on there.
- 9:30Speaker 3: So when I go in the shower room, it was
- 9:33Speaker 3: like a movie. Like everybody looked at me, like while
- 9:35Speaker 3: you got the boxes on, anybody, I'm telling me it
- 9:38Speaker 3: was a I'm talking about it was a sword showing
- 9:40Speaker 3: that joint man with no. No, I'm just like no,
- 9:43Speaker 3: it's like that's not normal, like you, and I'm like,
- 9:46Speaker 3: you know what. That day I realized that a shower
- 9:49Speaker 3: wasn't important than the bird bath. I said, I could
- 9:52Speaker 3: go back to myself and just wash up there why
- 9:54Speaker 3: would I need? Why do a shower really mean that?
- 9:56Speaker 3: You ain't taking the whole way? No. I took it
- 9:59Speaker 3: for a while until I just you know, went down
- 10:01Speaker 3: there and short comfortable because because I had that, I
- 10:03Speaker 3: was like, damn, man, like why everybody gotta be naked
- 10:06Speaker 3: in this joint?
- 10:07Speaker 1: Man?
- 10:09Speaker 3: And then they looking at you and then they talking
- 10:10Speaker 3: like like they'd be asked, and they talking, yeah, you
- 10:12Speaker 3: see the game? Oh man, what's the name?
- 10:14Speaker 2: Went off him Smith.
- 10:15Speaker 3: I'm like, man, we ain't sposed like you're supposed to
- 10:18Speaker 3: be doing this.
- 10:19Speaker 2: I don't know when did you.
- 10:20Speaker 5: Get like like like comfortable with it, like your first
- 10:23Speaker 5: necade shower?
- 10:23Speaker 4: Were you?
- 10:24Speaker 3: I never got the next show? Yeah, but I got
- 10:31Speaker 3: one when I got to the jail where you get
- 10:33Speaker 3: your own booth. I wasn't trying to be a party
- 10:35Speaker 3: because it's like it's like a volunteer, like you volunteering something.
- 10:38Speaker 2: How long it took to do that, oh.
- 10:39Speaker 3: Years, two years. But different jail, different part of the
- 10:42Speaker 3: jail got different sections where you get a single shower.
- 10:43Speaker 3: So in that jail was jing we had the single
- 10:45Speaker 3: shower locked in. But it was like, man, I always
- 10:48Speaker 3: feel like like that was the volunteer services, like you
- 10:50Speaker 3: was you was you was giving imitations to something. So
- 10:52Speaker 3: I didn't know was the was the coke.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Kine story real that Booty be talking about sometimes.
- 10:56Speaker 1: But it was a different prison though, But I think
- 10:58Speaker 1: it might be the same prison, say when you see
- 11:00Speaker 1: a coke cane.
- 11:01Speaker 2: In the shop.
- 11:03Speaker 3: No, no, it's different. Different, different things go on in
- 11:05Speaker 3: different prisons. I can't speak to that because I wasn't
- 11:07Speaker 3: in the geographical location of him. But it's different stuff,
- 11:10Speaker 3: fair state, different states. But it's like I just knew
- 11:13Speaker 3: that they signaled side of me in your in the
- 11:16Speaker 3: prison was what you mean signal? It was people was
- 11:21Speaker 3: making love to slow music. Man, it wasn't no like
- 11:24Speaker 3: you knew what time it was. Dudes had the red light. Listen,
- 11:27Speaker 3: bro Dudes had dudeshoo to take dudesake no, no, no, listen, dudes,
- 11:30Speaker 3: you to take paint and paint. They like red to
- 11:32Speaker 3: be red lights red like span Man. They got the
- 11:36Speaker 3: music playing, You like, don't look at their sound because
- 11:38Speaker 3: wanted to look at nobody's sell So I'm like, man,
- 11:41Speaker 3: I you know you can't look at nobody self.
- 11:43Speaker 2: But that's the signal.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Though.
- 11:44Speaker 2: The signal was the red light.
- 11:45Speaker 3: No, it could be anything.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Man.
- 11:46Speaker 3: You could walk in the bathroom in the yard, somebody
- 11:48Speaker 3: be tongue kissing and you know, romantic. I don't know.
- 11:51Speaker 3: It was a lot of stuff. Jesus Christ. I just
- 11:53Speaker 3: knew that. I just wanted to make it out innocent,
- 11:56Speaker 3: removed from me, that's all. But it was wild, man.
- 11:58Speaker 3: But I knew it was certainly can and just why
- 12:00Speaker 3: I knew. I said, oh, man, I can't, I can't,
- 12:03Speaker 3: I can't. I can't go back to this hit. Dude
- 12:04Speaker 3: put something on my bed one time. I didn't. I
- 12:07Speaker 3: didn't even know. No, no, this what happened. No, no, no,
- 12:10Speaker 3: this what happened. So what happened is my laundry came
- 12:13Speaker 3: back folded, and I'm like, damn, man, this is these people. Man,
- 12:17Speaker 3: they fold your laundry and everything. Man, I'm happy as
- 12:21Speaker 3: ship laundry. There was a couple of snacks left. I'm like, So,
- 12:24Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, this is what's up. So O G
- 12:26Speaker 3: from down the way he peeped, you know what I mean?
- 12:29Speaker 2: I asked him.
- 12:29Speaker 3: I said, damn, man, they dad? He said, what they did?
- 12:31Speaker 4: What?
- 12:32Speaker 3: So he went and checked the older dude that did it.
- 12:34Speaker 3: The older dude was trying to go on the date.
- 12:36Speaker 3: But I didn't know it was. I didn't know that.
- 12:38Speaker 2: What did he leave though? No, no, no, no, no,
- 12:40Speaker 2: he didn't leave.
- 12:40Speaker 3: No, no, he know. He left some nice uh. He
- 12:42Speaker 3: had a box of nutty bars. It was some suits
- 12:44Speaker 3: and chips and it was a nice It wasn't listen
- 12:49Speaker 3: old way when he told me I'd have had it
- 12:50Speaker 3: was a nice bread.
- 12:51Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So you gave it back
- 12:52Speaker 2: to him. You got to give it back to him.
- 12:53Speaker 2: I had to give it back to him if you
- 12:55Speaker 2: accept it.
- 12:55Speaker 3: No. No, But it wasn't just that he folded my laundry.
- 12:59Speaker 3: He worked in the laundry, and my drawers and all
- 13:00Speaker 3: it was folded. So I'm thinking, like, damn, this is
- 13:02Speaker 3: the pro this, this is the protocol of what they Damn.
- 13:05Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, they got some good service here, you
- 13:07Speaker 3: know what I mean. But once I realized that he
- 13:09Speaker 3: was looking for a date, I didn't I said, oh, ship,
- 13:12Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying. Lucky that I had the
- 13:13Speaker 3: old head did because I don't know what the happened. Yeah, yeah,
- 13:16Speaker 3: but it was crazy. It was crazy, man.
- 13:17Speaker 2: It was That's why y'all got to read this book.
- 13:19Speaker 4: It was deep man, you dedicated the book the lit Steve,
- 13:24Speaker 4: Aunt Ruby, Grandma or Uncle James, Uncle Tommy.
- 13:27Speaker 2: And hip Hop.
- 13:27Speaker 3: How did you know hip Yeah, that's my step Hop.
- 13:30Speaker 2: How did each of those people contribute to your journey?
- 13:32Speaker 3: Mim Ruby's first of all my grandma and this is
- 13:34Speaker 3: my grandma and nanny. She's she'd be ninety September thirtieth.
- 13:40Speaker 3: He's extraordinary. Ruby and her used to always gang war
- 13:45Speaker 3: min Ruby. You know, she was the only person I've
- 13:48Speaker 3: seen straight my grandma out, and don't nobody straight nanny out.
- 13:51Speaker 3: And they used to be going that this this was
- 13:52Speaker 3: her younger sister. Oh Man, and I used to call
- 13:54Speaker 3: home from jail. The stories that an Ruby used to
- 13:57Speaker 3: tell me was unbelievable. But I don Ruby was special.
- 14:00Speaker 3: She just was different. And she loved me, love us,
- 14:02Speaker 3: love us on me. She wound up passing, and she
- 14:05Speaker 3: passed my grandma house the middle room that I wound
- 14:07Speaker 3: up making parole to. That was one of the reasons
- 14:09Speaker 3: I was able to make parole because, you know whatever,
- 14:12Speaker 3: but God bless her. My my grandma Aura. She passed
- 14:17Speaker 3: when I was in prison. She was amazing, always real,
- 14:21Speaker 3: tell you just like it is. She was from the streets.
- 14:23Speaker 3: Uncle Tommy passed since I've been home. Was my big brother.
- 14:29Speaker 3: He passed my grandma arms in the crib he got shot,
- 14:32Speaker 3: ran down the street, died in grandma arms. She opened
- 14:34Speaker 3: the door. He aspired, that was my guy. But everybody,
- 14:38Speaker 3: them people is personal. You see what I'm saying. And Uh,
- 14:42Speaker 3: they were special in my life in different ways. They
- 14:44Speaker 3: helped me in so many different ways. And it's things
- 14:46Speaker 3: that I carried today that I got from them doing
- 14:48Speaker 3: my journey through, you know, doing especially when they was here.
- 14:51Speaker 3: And I always want to remember them people because I
- 14:53Speaker 3: feel as though a lot of people get forgotten that
- 14:58Speaker 3: give us so much and just because they're not there.
- 15:01Speaker 3: And I always feel like you really live when you
- 15:05Speaker 3: outlived how much you lived. And I'm saying that you
- 15:08Speaker 3: really live when you outlive how much you live. It's
- 15:11Speaker 3: people from our culture that outlive how much they live.
- 15:15Speaker 3: You've raveriged, Bossy. I'll rabage to certain people they lived
- 15:18Speaker 3: longer after life than they did their life. Absolutely, but
- 15:22Speaker 3: we don't do that with our family members and the
- 15:23Speaker 3: people that we love and the people that we know personally.
- 15:26Speaker 3: We keep other people alive based off celebrity, but we're
- 15:28Speaker 3: going to keep the people alive that was personally personal
- 15:31Speaker 3: to us. They get buried and the thank yous and
- 15:33Speaker 3: all that shit somewhere and sometimes forgotten. So I always
- 15:35Speaker 3: try to remember my people that died. They gave so
- 15:39Speaker 3: much to me.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Believe you right now, like if he saw the position
- 15:43Speaker 2: you was in when he believed no on everything.
- 15:45Speaker 3: I love my brother be doing just what Gilby doing.
- 15:47Speaker 3: We call me not that ass nigga looks you just
- 15:49Speaker 3: a not ass nigga ball because that was him. He's
- 15:51Speaker 3: a funny boy. He was all he wanted to do
- 15:52Speaker 3: is laugh all day. I'm just thankful that I was
- 15:55Speaker 3: able to the greatest thing that I ever did in
- 15:58Speaker 3: life and the history of my life was forgiving my
- 16:00Speaker 3: brother's killer. And the reason that was so important to
- 16:03Speaker 3: me because the ghetto nothing superseded. Nothing is. The hierarchy
- 16:08Speaker 3: is to get and the ghetto is revenge. But for
- 16:12Speaker 3: me to say, you know what, I want to live
- 16:13Speaker 3: for my brother, live for the kids, live for the family,
- 16:17Speaker 3: and put it in my heart to forgive someone that
- 16:19Speaker 3: took my brother out of there. Heard the devastated the family.
- 16:22Speaker 3: But I said to myself is we always ask for forgiveness,
- 16:26Speaker 3: We ask God all the time forgiveness, but when do
- 16:28Speaker 3: we forgive on a real level. And that was the
- 16:33Speaker 3: greatest thing I ever did. And I always encourage young
- 16:35Speaker 3: brothers to like, you know, because when you see our community,
- 16:38Speaker 3: it's like everybody is moving based off of a lot
- 16:40Speaker 3: of cats, is moving and continueing this crime criminal mindset.
- 16:44Speaker 3: And you know in the genocide based off award that
- 16:48Speaker 3: they never even knew about, Like you don't even know
- 16:51Speaker 3: why you beefing with somebody, and we never have a conversation.
- 16:54Speaker 3: It's like and even the level heads from different sides
- 16:57Speaker 3: of the communities never could sit down and just be like, yo,
- 16:59Speaker 3: this bullshit be on some bullshit, like come on, y'all,
- 17:02Speaker 3: we got like we shooting in the mirror out here
- 17:04Speaker 3: as black people and ain't nobody. I don't know what
- 17:09Speaker 3: it is. Man. It bothered me because I see a
- 17:10Speaker 3: lot of elders that are scared they want to be
- 17:13Speaker 3: young niggas, and it's like, no, you're not nothing deaf.
- 17:15Speaker 3: I tell them all the I'm not no, no, I'm
- 17:17Speaker 3: not I'm not. I'm an elder, but dog, I'm not
- 17:19Speaker 3: no young boy I'm not trying to be cool with you.
- 17:20Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what you want to hear. And
- 17:22Speaker 3: if you don't, because I know most of your day,
- 17:24Speaker 3: especially the artists, the athletes, they run around with a
- 17:26Speaker 3: bunch of yes men. I ain't one of them enough.
- 17:28Speaker 3: I don't care about it. I don't care who you is.
- 17:30Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you listen, man, that's some dumb shit. Man,
- 17:31Speaker 3: you want some dumb shit left me and Gil will
- 17:33Speaker 3: be like, Yo, that's some dumb shit enough. And even
- 17:36Speaker 3: if you just hear me for the moment, I did
- 17:37Speaker 3: my job. A lot of times I fell short and
- 17:40Speaker 3: doing my job. Well, I ain't gonna say I didn't
- 17:42Speaker 3: do my job, but I fell short because it went
- 17:44Speaker 3: on some deaf ears and we've seen what happened with
- 17:46Speaker 3: that a lot of times.
- 17:47Speaker 4: Man, look at all the different clips that you can
- 17:50Speaker 4: look at a wallow online warning people about what was
- 17:54Speaker 4: gonna happen in their situation or what was gonna happen
- 17:57Speaker 4: if they didn't change their ways and they came true.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I, you know, I just be peeping
- 18:03Speaker 3: it because I see it like you could just see
- 18:04Speaker 3: it when you've been through it.
- 18:05Speaker 1: So long.
- 18:06Speaker 3: But that's why I try to share my story so
- 18:07Speaker 3: they could learn from my story and do live my story.
- 18:09Speaker 3: But a lot of times the money make people blind
- 18:14Speaker 3: and death. And when you get that paper, you think,
- 18:17Speaker 3: but one thing, I know, one thing, I know something
- 18:19Speaker 3: If I don't know nothing about this shit. When you
- 18:21Speaker 3: black in America, you get all the money in the
- 18:24Speaker 3: power you want. Man, man, but let me tell you something.
- 18:25Speaker 3: Mighty Whitey get to you. That's right, I'm just being real.
- 18:29Speaker 3: Mighty is over that courtroom. They humble the shit out
- 18:33Speaker 3: of you. They would get you in that court You
- 18:35Speaker 3: see how they laid Tyrek down Tyreek Hill, laid him down,
- 18:38Speaker 3: rubed him up, shut up. You see what I'm saying, Like,
- 18:41Speaker 3: I don't know what happened, but I'm like they rubbed
- 18:42Speaker 3: him up real.
- 18:43Speaker 2: Good and still had he still had to go out
- 18:45Speaker 2: there and play.
- 18:46Speaker 3: Pretty sure, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
- 18:48Speaker 3: it's always a point, whereas though you be it'd be like, man,
- 18:50Speaker 3: shut up, nigga, and you always got to be on
- 18:53Speaker 3: point to know, you know, know how to move out here.
- 18:55Speaker 3: And it's sad that we got to do that, but
- 18:57Speaker 3: that's the reality of the environment. That that that we
- 18:59Speaker 3: come up in.
- 19:00Speaker 1: What did you realize this is what you wanted to
- 19:01Speaker 1: do when you came home and you said you took
- 19:03Speaker 1: that drive and you went back to you had the
- 19:04Speaker 1: McDonald's with the Grandma house. When did you realize this
- 19:07Speaker 1: is what you wanted to do and how you wanted
- 19:09Speaker 1: to change for the next generation.
- 19:11Speaker 3: I was in a shout out to the life of
- 19:14Speaker 3: these Life for Brothers, this organization in WACP and all
- 19:17Speaker 3: the brothers that was in the penitentiary with me, the elders.
- 19:21Speaker 3: There's an organization called Real Street Talk. So I'm in
- 19:24Speaker 3: there and they in one of the old OG's brother,
- 19:27Speaker 3: minister Rob, shout out to him. He come to me
- 19:29Speaker 3: and said, Waller, we need you to come down here
- 19:30Speaker 3: and talk. It was a bunch of brothers should Core
- 19:32Speaker 3: Sharifa was a ike a Big Shannon, and it was
- 19:35Speaker 3: a bunch of brothers that was getting together the talk
- 19:38Speaker 3: to the inmates that was coming in two three hundred
- 19:41Speaker 3: inmates a week that was coming in to talk to
- 19:43Speaker 3: them about listen while you in jail, used this as
- 19:45Speaker 3: your time to educate yourself. So you go back out
- 19:47Speaker 3: there and make something happened with yourself and it was
- 19:48Speaker 3: called real street talk. So I was one of the
- 19:50Speaker 3: dudes that spoke in a way to whereas though they
- 19:53Speaker 3: really understood what I was saying because I was like
- 19:56Speaker 3: one of the youngest dude. Even though the og spokes too,
- 19:59Speaker 3: and I've seen it, they were listen. They was tapped
- 20:00Speaker 3: into it. And it was a brother, uh brother, Rob Griffin.
- 20:06Speaker 3: He was from the He used to do security for
- 20:07Speaker 3: Malcolm Mexican the Nation Islam back in the day, for
- 20:09Speaker 3: the Duff. You used to be the you know, the
- 20:11Speaker 3: head of security for the Nation of Islam back in
- 20:13Speaker 3: the day. And you know he held down Malcolm, hamming
- 20:17Speaker 3: all them it. And he came to my cell one
- 20:18Speaker 3: day because I was selling like next to him and
- 20:21Speaker 3: on a block greatest for it, and he was like brother,
- 20:23Speaker 3: Not too many brothers out here speaked whereas though multiple
- 20:26Speaker 3: generations could listen and understand it. And then the like
- 20:29Speaker 3: you speak clear, keep doing that. So when I got out,
- 20:32Speaker 3: just start grabbed it, grabbed that phone and just start
- 20:34Speaker 3: popping it because nobody was doing it. And I knew
- 20:37Speaker 3: that I had to do it in a unique way
- 20:39Speaker 3: because I was battling on the timeline was battling for attention.
- 20:42Speaker 3: You know when you go down the time line. I'm
- 20:43Speaker 3: looking at this. I said, Okay, I got to battle
- 20:45Speaker 3: the girl, this ass naked. I got to battle my
- 20:47Speaker 3: man with a pound of jerry On. I got to
- 20:48Speaker 3: battle the rapper, the athlete, I said, I got him.
- 20:50Speaker 3: That's why, if you've seen a lot of my videos
- 20:52Speaker 3: in the beginning, i'd be running across the highway eighteen
- 20:54Speaker 3: willer come laying on the ground, catch him on my head.
- 20:56Speaker 3: They laughing. But I'm giving you the message as long
- 20:58Speaker 3: as you listening, because what everybody was afraid to tell us, like, yo,
- 21:02Speaker 3: you can be great, you amazing, Like we build pyramids
- 21:05Speaker 3: with no cranes. I don't know what I'm reading this
- 21:07Speaker 3: shit in jail, Like, hold up, we did that? You
- 21:08Speaker 3: mean to tell me? Hold up? You mean to tell me? Uh?
- 21:12Speaker 3: We you know we came up out a slavery. This
- 21:14Speaker 3: little lady got us about a slavery. Since they got
- 21:16Speaker 3: us about a slavery, and that ingenuity. Ho, what the
- 21:19Speaker 3: fuck is going on? Frederick Douglass was who he did? What? Oh,
- 21:22Speaker 3: we we got most of the patents, most shit create.
- 21:25Speaker 3: Oh what the I'm like, yo, we can do it,
- 21:27Speaker 3: but you gotta I realized this, if you can make
- 21:31Speaker 3: them laugh, you can make them listen. And I always
- 21:34Speaker 3: was like, I always love comedy because I used to
- 21:36Speaker 3: listen to Paul Moody, Richard, probably all of my uncle
- 21:40Speaker 3: who played the records Red Fox, and I'll be laughing,
- 21:42Speaker 3: but they'd be saying some deep shit and they lace
- 21:45Speaker 3: it up. So I'm like, Okay, I just gotta give
- 21:47Speaker 3: it to our people in a different way, you know,
- 21:50Speaker 3: because I just couldn't get the whole Harriet Tubman thing
- 21:54Speaker 3: just just had me just like, Yo, there's nothing you
- 21:56Speaker 3: can't do that. Fuck them pyramids I'm talking about with
- 22:01Speaker 3: no cranes. It's no how would this done? We did that?
- 22:05Speaker 3: These adventures, we did this, we created what so it'd
- 22:08Speaker 3: be like what Black Wall Street we did? So I
- 22:10Speaker 3: just be looking like, no, it's just a different way,
- 22:12Speaker 3: in a different language you're doing it. And one thing
- 22:14Speaker 3: that I'm always doing, You'll never hear me say nothing.
- 22:16Speaker 3: You'll never hear me talk down to hate any of
- 22:18Speaker 3: our people, you know why never? All of our people
- 22:21Speaker 3: got it different. They got it. They might have a
- 22:23Speaker 3: different message. And no matter what you're doing business that
- 22:27Speaker 3: I don't care what you're doing. We don't have to
- 22:30Speaker 3: be doing the same thing. And just because we ain't
- 22:32Speaker 3: doing the same thing, even if we might be doing
- 22:33Speaker 3: something a similar we ain't got to be mad at
- 22:35Speaker 3: each other. I ain't got to hate you, ain't gotta
- 22:36Speaker 3: hate me. Because at the end of the day, is
- 22:38Speaker 3: this shit really about the uplook men of our people?
- 22:41Speaker 3: If it is, how can I go online and say
- 22:43Speaker 3: anything bad about our people? If I really care about
- 22:45Speaker 3: our people, I can't tear you down to lift them up.
- 22:49Speaker 3: It ain't gonna mathematically, it don't work. So what I
- 22:51Speaker 3: do is no matter if you say something about me,
- 22:53Speaker 3: say somebody, because what I'm never going to say nothing
- 22:55Speaker 3: about nobody because that's not gonna add value to the
- 22:58Speaker 3: whole plan above.
- 23:00Speaker 2: That's Willow really like this.
- 23:02Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that.
- 23:02Speaker 2: Even off camera he's like that, and I'd be like,
- 23:05Speaker 2: fuck these.
- 23:06Speaker 5: Niggas I was actually do And so like this is
- 23:09Speaker 5: like a daily thing for you, like on and off camera,
- 23:11Speaker 5: like you said, but like when situations come about, like
- 23:14Speaker 5: when people make you upset, when things don't go your way,
- 23:17Speaker 5: Like how do you what's your mental lock in that
- 23:19Speaker 5: you stay grounded where you are right now, like, what's that?
- 23:22Speaker 3: My thing? Is this? Some of the times when people
- 23:27Speaker 3: have said things or I wasn't like I even look
- 23:30Speaker 3: at it, and I look at it now from a
- 23:31Speaker 3: critique bone and be like, yo, is that person right?
- 23:33Speaker 3: Am I tripping? I'm not a person that's like, I'm
- 23:36Speaker 3: logic to the point whereas though there's a possibility whereas
- 23:38Speaker 3: though I might do some dumb shit or some nut shit,
- 23:41Speaker 3: So I will even look at it because it's like, listen,
- 23:43Speaker 3: after me dealing with the white folks in that mountains,
- 23:45Speaker 3: and I'm coming in my cell at any times. It's
- 23:47Speaker 3: because I'm beefing with the guard for a week and
- 23:49Speaker 3: he's coming to myself every day for a week telling
- 23:51Speaker 3: me to get ass whole negad and spread and cough.
- 23:53Speaker 3: None of this shit mean nothing to me. You think
- 23:56Speaker 3: this shit means I did seventy three hundred days in jail.
- 23:59Speaker 3: You think I get So it's not that deep. But
- 24:02Speaker 3: I'm also would look at things and say, damn, do
- 24:05Speaker 3: they got to do they got a point there? Because
- 24:07Speaker 3: sometimes they might have a point. And just because you
- 24:08Speaker 3: not rocking with me, that don't mean you hating on me.
- 24:10Speaker 3: I might not just be your cup of tea and
- 24:12Speaker 3: you might don't know how to reach out or whatever
- 24:16Speaker 3: you might just so it's like, I'm big on that.
- 24:18Speaker 3: Everybody's not hating on you because they don't like what
- 24:20Speaker 3: you got going on. And sometimes I understand you might
- 24:23Speaker 3: rub people the wrong way because you might remind them
- 24:25Speaker 3: that they didn't go after their dreams. So it's levels
- 24:27Speaker 3: to this ship. But you know what I need y'all
- 24:29Speaker 3: to do is I need y'all to all try to
- 24:31Speaker 3: drink and once this is my drink, drink pure, pure,
- 24:36Speaker 3: take a s.
- 24:36Speaker 4: I got to ask you a question. You said, when
- 24:38Speaker 4: the officers came in your cell, right, the white boys,
- 24:41Speaker 4: and they told you.
- 24:41Speaker 3: To time out to drink.
- 24:44Speaker 4: I like it.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Let me see.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Drinking that watermelon blast.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Tell me that's good.
- 24:50Speaker 3: Think that's all I needed. I'm gonna sing on something.
- 24:52Speaker 3: But go ahead, get back.
- 24:53Speaker 2: To the And you said the officers used to come
- 24:55Speaker 2: in to yourself. Make you get that in the spread?
- 24:57Speaker 2: You ass? You did you fuss with them a little bit?
- 24:59Speaker 2: Are you just that all you heard? Got nugget? Yeah,
- 25:01Speaker 2: that's on you.
- 25:01Speaker 3: No, you know what's crazy? Like I got So it
- 25:03Speaker 3: was so like me I was so institutionalized. As soon
- 25:06Speaker 3: as I know, as soon as I see him cracking
- 25:07Speaker 3: the door, I'm already asked nackad like, I'm just like,
- 25:10Speaker 3: what's up? What were we doing today? Baby? Were doing
- 25:12Speaker 3: because I knew that. I knew that they want to
- 25:13Speaker 3: see They want to see some black heat. For real.
- 25:16Speaker 3: They was trying to miss. They was they was trying
- 25:17Speaker 3: to message. They were trying to see some black heat.
- 25:19Speaker 2: I knew what was talking.
- 25:20Speaker 3: I said, all right, fuck it, then let's get it.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Come on, let's do it in the kitchen. You turned up,
- 25:23Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's do it.
- 25:24Speaker 3: Let's go we ad it again, y'all back hot. I
- 25:27Speaker 3: know what y'all want. Shout out, people's turn around all
- 25:30Speaker 3: that shit, hit the wall and put my hands on wall,
- 25:32Speaker 3: lift my feet, twinkle my toes and all that shit
- 25:34Speaker 3: been down, spread them. And then after I spread and
- 25:36Speaker 3: grab my sack, I gotta go on my mouth and
- 25:37Speaker 3: all this dumb ship like, yeah, y'all have some kinky
- 25:40Speaker 3: bulls man. Yeah whatever, people keep being smart ass. I'm
- 25:43Speaker 3: freaking d.
- 25:44Speaker 2: You're still interesting?
- 25:45Speaker 5: Is there anything from like when you was locked up?
- 25:47Speaker 5: You know, sometimes people come home and it's like like
- 25:49Speaker 5: I got you can't hear certain sounds or like you know,
- 25:52Speaker 5: like do you have any of that from all the
- 25:53Speaker 5: time that you spent the jail.
- 25:54Speaker 3: I got all type of shit. I just I can't
- 25:56Speaker 3: keep up with it.
- 25:57Speaker 2: There's so much.
- 25:57Speaker 3: You can't keep up with all that shit. It's just
- 26:00Speaker 3: so much. You just you just live because you know
- 26:02Speaker 3: what's crazy. Being from the ghetto. We normalize jail so
- 26:05Speaker 3: much to whereas though you know the side effects of
- 26:07Speaker 3: that shit that had you, Like everybody got that shit.
- 26:10Speaker 3: The family members got side effects from dealing with the
- 26:13Speaker 3: jail experience. Is just going to see it, like you
- 26:15Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's like it's just crazy, man.
- 26:18Speaker 3: But when it comes to prison thing, but I think
- 26:21Speaker 3: is so crazy?
- 26:22Speaker 2: Is that?
- 26:23Speaker 3: And I want to say this that the brothers out
- 26:25Speaker 3: there right especially if you're in the streets right now,
- 26:27Speaker 3: you're operating your gun, you just in the street game.
- 26:31Speaker 3: I just want to say something, rather you know it
- 26:33Speaker 3: or not, Black young black males in the street culture
- 26:39Speaker 3: build more communities outside of our community than anybody in
- 26:43Speaker 3: the history of life of America. Let me break this
- 26:46Speaker 3: shit down. When we get locked up. I come from
- 26:49Speaker 3: one nine, one three to two Philadelphia, the most people
- 26:52Speaker 3: that ever, they sent the most people to prison that
- 26:55Speaker 3: that area. Cole in Pennsylvania. Now, when I get locked
- 26:59Speaker 3: up up and me and the homies get locked up,
- 27:02Speaker 3: they build new prisons based on the population increase. When
- 27:05Speaker 3: the population increased, they'll take it down. They'll go rent
- 27:08Speaker 3: some farm area. They'll bring a lego prison, put it together.
- 27:12Speaker 3: Boom boom boom boom boom. Once they bring that prison,
- 27:14Speaker 3: they build the gas station, they build a Walmark, They
- 27:17Speaker 3: employ all these farmers. And this is me and the
- 27:20Speaker 3: homies doing this. And then now you got all this stuff.
- 27:24Speaker 3: They got this whole community that we built. But we
- 27:26Speaker 3: never we never built the home community. We never bought
- 27:30Speaker 3: on mama house. We never sent our kids to college,
- 27:31Speaker 3: but we send the kid were sending kids to college.
- 27:34Speaker 3: Every time you shoot a gun in the ghetto, you're
- 27:36Speaker 3: sending somebody else kid to college. Every time you rob somebody,
- 27:39Speaker 3: you're sending somebody. You're buying somebody paying somebody else mortgage.
- 27:42Speaker 3: Like we are the ultimate, the real street nigga is
- 27:46Speaker 3: the ultimate job security in America. The real street Niggas.
- 27:50Speaker 3: I'm to create more jobs than any other people, any
- 27:53Speaker 3: other group in America, more police, probation officers, sheriffs. I'm
- 28:01Speaker 3: telling all these every department correctional officers counts. Now, think
- 28:05Speaker 3: about the jail. In the jail, you know how mean people.
- 28:07Speaker 3: We probably over a thousand people we employ in the prison.
- 28:10Speaker 3: And you gotta think about it. Everybody from the the
- 28:14Speaker 3: guard to the counselor people that work in the kitchen
- 28:18Speaker 3: to the nurses. Like we do this and it be families.
- 28:21Speaker 3: It be nepotism on its highest level in there. I've
- 28:23Speaker 3: been in prison and I didn't seen guards start as
- 28:26Speaker 3: a rookie and then turning the war. And I've been
- 28:28Speaker 3: in prison. So and this grandpa, uncle, son, cousin. And
- 28:33Speaker 3: on the other side, if you look at this picture
- 28:35Speaker 3: in the book, and I try to explain generational incarceration,
- 28:38Speaker 3: this picture right here in the book of me right here,
- 28:40Speaker 3: that's me in the back. This is my step pop
- 28:42Speaker 3: hit To died. That's my brother Steve. That's my little
- 28:44Speaker 3: brother Jailiu. So in this prison, Dallas Prison Penitentiary. This
- 28:48Speaker 3: in the eighties, right, this is eighty seven. So in
- 28:50Speaker 3: eighty seven we going to Dallas prison to visit him.
- 28:52Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety eight, me and my Steppap was sell.
- 28:55Speaker 3: He's in that same prison, and in two thousand and five,
- 28:57Speaker 3: me and my brothers were selling in that same prison. Generationalcarceration.
- 29:01Speaker 3: And when we're looking on the other side, you'll go
- 29:03Speaker 3: see the warden. Then his son is a sergeant, his
- 29:06Speaker 3: cousin is a major. Like so we got families in prisons,
- 29:11Speaker 3: but they're on the winning side. Were on the losing side.
- 29:14Speaker 3: So when we're talking about this whole thing, this whole
- 29:16Speaker 3: I'm a real nigga, I understand what you're saying. But
- 29:18Speaker 3: you're gonna be a real nigga, and you're gonna be
- 29:20Speaker 3: in prison with your daughter graduating and growing up, and
- 29:23Speaker 3: there's gonna be some other men in our life that's
- 29:24Speaker 3: giving the game that's not beneficial to her. It's beneficial
- 29:27Speaker 3: to them, and your daughter gonna get taken advantage of.
- 29:30Speaker 3: So it's like when we looking at this whole thing
- 29:32Speaker 3: that we think we putting it down. I got a
- 29:35Speaker 3: bunch of brothers on the other side. They could tell
- 29:36Speaker 3: you they wish they could they could relive this because
- 29:38Speaker 3: they ain't never coming out of jail.
- 29:39Speaker 2: You the generational curse, brig O Wallow.
- 29:41Speaker 4: That's why I'm I'm a book man because I need
- 29:45Speaker 4: to see you on every platform having these conversations.
- 29:49Speaker 2: I want to see you on the view. I want
- 29:50Speaker 2: to see you.
- 29:51Speaker 4: But you know what.
- 29:52Speaker 3: You know what's crazy, though, and this is why I
- 29:54Speaker 3: commend you like what I commend you is of this.
- 29:59Speaker 3: And this is while our Brothers Club is a major
- 30:01Speaker 3: platform for our culture and will always be. You get
- 30:06Speaker 3: it when it's not cool. You get it before it
- 30:08Speaker 3: go popular, you get it before it goes shiny. You
- 30:11Speaker 3: get it and understand that a lot of these people
- 30:13Speaker 3: don't give a fuck about that, even though you name platforms.
- 30:15Speaker 3: They don't care about that. They just want some shiny shit.
- 30:17Speaker 2: Now.
- 30:18Speaker 3: While low come out of prison one of the probably
- 30:20Speaker 3: and I'm not I'm probably one of the greatest comebacks
- 30:23Speaker 3: ever to come out of prison in life, but they
- 30:26Speaker 3: not gonna get that to a New York Time bestseller
- 30:28Speaker 3: here at all that stuff, So they don't understand us.
- 30:31Speaker 3: And we control cool, but a lot of times we
- 30:34Speaker 3: don't own it. So they try to get a close
- 30:36Speaker 3: proximity to our coolness, and we so much suck as
- 30:39Speaker 3: we don't be understanding that. We don't even know why
- 30:41Speaker 3: when we're being used out here. That's why it's a
- 30:43Speaker 3: lot of shit that I see online. I'll be like, damn,
- 30:45Speaker 3: we goofy as shit. Man, can't nobody outside of us
- 30:50Speaker 3: validate us but us. I'm never gonna let nobody tell
- 30:55Speaker 3: me that you're not cool, that you not cool, that
- 30:57Speaker 3: outside our culture. And I'm never gonna let nobody have
- 31:00Speaker 3: approval of what's cool and what's not outside of our
- 31:02Speaker 3: culture of this blackness. I love being black. I'm a
- 31:06Speaker 3: die blast, right. My family is black. So I look
- 31:11Speaker 3: at us and I say, with some extraordinary people and
- 31:12Speaker 3: it's not taking that enough from any other group of people,
- 31:16Speaker 3: but everybody else love themselves. So I'm gonna love me
- 31:18Speaker 3: and you know, and I got some extraordinary people that's
- 31:20Speaker 3: not black, this family that's been But at the end
- 31:22Speaker 3: of the day, until we start loving us on all levels,
- 31:27Speaker 3: we're gonna be left behind.
- 31:28Speaker 1: What do you think about when when Michael Ruben was
- 31:30Speaker 1: up here and said pretty much the same thing that
- 31:32Speaker 1: you just said right now, but he just said we
- 31:36Speaker 1: heard He basically said, our community hurts ourselves. That's what
- 31:41Speaker 1: you've been saying.
- 31:42Speaker 3: Let me say this though. Let me say this though.
- 31:44Speaker 3: Everything is about the message, because I can't speak on
- 31:46Speaker 3: behalf of you know, different races. I can't do that
- 31:50Speaker 3: because they gonna be like, who the fuck is you?
- 31:52Speaker 3: So that's normal. But one thing that I can say
- 31:54Speaker 3: is that I've seen our everybody is speculating. Everybody's around
- 31:59Speaker 3: on that that Meek was in that courtroom. I was
- 32:01Speaker 3: in that courtroom to come to speak for me. Michael
- 32:03Speaker 3: Rubin was in that courtroom. And when we took that
- 32:05Speaker 3: break after the the you know, the judge was roughing
- 32:08Speaker 3: me up I'm talking about. She was like, she was
- 32:10Speaker 3: roughing me up. We went outside to the hallway and
- 32:13Speaker 3: Mike looked at us and said, what's going on in here?
- 32:16Speaker 3: Like this guy was really shocked. I'm like, this is
- 32:19Speaker 3: being black in America. He was like, what the fuck
- 32:22Speaker 3: I'm talking about? He was personally pissed because he didn't
- 32:24Speaker 3: understand them to be going because a lot of people
- 32:25Speaker 3: just don't know.
- 32:26Speaker 2: He said, he didn't realize there was two Americas until.
- 32:28Speaker 3: Like he listen that day. He looked at and then
- 32:31Speaker 3: he attempted to walk back in the courtroom after we
- 32:33Speaker 3: had the conversation, and she slapped him around, and he like,
- 32:37Speaker 3: what the I can't like cause he stood up and
- 32:39Speaker 3: spoke and stood up, and she was like, all right,
- 32:41Speaker 3: writing in the paper like he went and done something.
- 32:45Speaker 3: I respect Mike for that. I don't care what no
- 32:47Speaker 3: like Mike went and done something. You know, people won
- 32:49Speaker 3: have their opinions on people, but I'm talking about when
- 32:52Speaker 3: I see a good person, I see a good person,
- 32:53Speaker 3: I salute a good person.
- 32:54Speaker 4: That's it.
- 32:54Speaker 3: I ain't with all that other shit, because I'm gonna
- 32:56Speaker 3: tell you something. Man, to be real with you, I
- 32:59Speaker 3: got a lot of people, but it's not black. They
- 33:00Speaker 3: helped the shit out of me because they really people
- 33:03Speaker 3: that really believe it. And I ain't talking about business.
- 33:05Speaker 3: I'm talking about in life, people that people that love
- 33:07Speaker 3: you love you. It's not it's not always gonna be
- 33:09Speaker 3: a colored thing. And I know we fight so much
- 33:11Speaker 3: to get us together, but at the end of the day,
- 33:13Speaker 3: while you spend your your time on this planet, you
- 33:16Speaker 3: better love who love you, and you better figure out
- 33:18Speaker 3: who loved you and who got your fucking back. Because
- 33:21Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know what anybody
- 33:23Speaker 3: else doing out here, but I'm forty five and I'm
- 33:27Speaker 3: saying to myself, hopefully I get another forty five out
- 33:29Speaker 3: here because my grandma naety. So I'm measuring it by
- 33:31Speaker 3: my uncle James, rusting piece of him. He died he
- 33:33Speaker 3: was ninety three or ninety four. But we gotta we
- 33:36Speaker 3: got a nice lemph in our joint.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Pas.
- 33:40Speaker 3: Oh but is that a pause camp. I gotta run
- 33:42Speaker 3: that podcam because I'm talking about the lift of years.
- 33:43Speaker 3: I'm not saying but oh yeah, yeah, definitely, I gotta call.
- 33:47Speaker 2: It, you know.
- 33:49Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is, well, you was a pause
- 33:52Speaker 3: champion because the more you in the guinness. But I'm
- 33:56Speaker 3: gonna say this. I'm gonna say this though I'm looking
- 33:58Speaker 3: at it like I'm forty five. Now there's a big
- 34:00Speaker 3: chance twenty you know what I mean, like fifty percent
- 34:02Speaker 3: of my life or thirty whatever. I'm getting out of
- 34:05Speaker 3: this joint one day I can't worry about. I'm gonna
- 34:07Speaker 3: be going. I gotta go. I gotta go, and when
- 34:10Speaker 3: I go, my whole thing. I want to be able
- 34:12Speaker 3: to say I left that shit on the planet. That's
- 34:14Speaker 3: why I live a life that I live.
- 34:15Speaker 1: I do me.
- 34:16Speaker 3: If I want to buy someone buy it. If I
- 34:17Speaker 3: wanna go somewhere, I gonna go somewhere. I'm not living
- 34:18Speaker 3: my life based off of some fear of shit because
- 34:20Speaker 3: guess what, you know how many motherfuckers in the graveyard
- 34:23Speaker 3: sitting there mad as shit? Like Damn I should have
- 34:25Speaker 3: got disit, Damn I should have went here, Damn I
- 34:27Speaker 3: should have done this. We don't do it enough, We
- 34:28Speaker 3: don't live enough, we don't put more positive energy out enough.
- 34:31Speaker 3: Because I'm saying to myself, Damn, I gotta I got
- 34:35Speaker 3: a lot of shit to make up on because I know,
- 34:37Speaker 3: you know, when I see yad, I don't want it
- 34:38Speaker 3: to be like Nigga, didn't I tell you, Nigga, you understanding,
- 34:42Speaker 3: because God get foky for people. You know what I mean.
- 34:44Speaker 3: I don't want to be the one be like you
- 34:46Speaker 3: had plenty of time, nigga, you know where you gotta go,
- 34:49Speaker 3: you know I mean. So it's like, at the end
- 34:50Speaker 3: of the day, I just try to put the best
- 34:52Speaker 3: energy possible out there to our people to let them know, listen, man,
- 34:54Speaker 3: we ain't got time. We ain't gonna be if ever
- 34:55Speaker 3: love each other, do what you gotta do and keep
- 34:57Speaker 3: it moving, but one day you gotta get the fuck
- 34:59Speaker 3: up out of here.
- 35:00Speaker 2: What led the Ian Levon's not writing the forward for
- 35:02Speaker 2: this book.
- 35:03Speaker 3: The craziest thing in the world. So she hit me
- 35:06Speaker 3: one day in the DM I almost passed out.
- 35:09Speaker 2: And this is why.
- 35:11Speaker 3: Acts of faith what we call the Purple Book in jail.
- 35:14Speaker 3: That was like a joint of anybody carry around in
- 35:16Speaker 3: the bike pocket they be writing the little love notes
- 35:18Speaker 3: outed to the girl and all like. It was a
- 35:19Speaker 3: powerful everyday messaging book. So I had the Purple Book
- 35:23Speaker 3: most of my bits. So I'm like when she DM me, baby,
- 35:26Speaker 3: I'm like, what the I'm like, this gotta because I'm
- 35:29Speaker 3: the dude that's different than I'm not no dude to
- 35:31Speaker 3: think I'm I'm a regular person in my world. So
- 35:33Speaker 3: I don't think I'm this person that I'm starstruck when
- 35:36Speaker 3: I see people that's important in my life. If I
- 35:38Speaker 3: see certain rappers from Star Truck. Gil got mad at
- 35:40Speaker 3: me because it was six in the morning and I
- 35:42Speaker 3: seen Big Daddy came in the airport and I draw
- 35:44Speaker 3: attention on him. He said, why are you doing it? Dumb?
- 35:46Speaker 3: She cousin came and came. Didn't want to really be bobered.
- 35:48Speaker 3: I know he didn't, but fuck that came. He was
- 35:50Speaker 3: a legend. I got announced Chuck d I seen him
- 35:52Speaker 3: at the Joint. You know what's happening. You know what's crazy.
- 35:54Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell some deep shit. This how I knew
- 35:56Speaker 3: I was a hip hop history in it. I was
- 35:57Speaker 3: a major part of hip hop. I was at Lee
- 36:00Speaker 3: Corn party and he was giving him award City of
- 36:04Speaker 3: Hope I think in l A and Chuck D looked
- 36:06Speaker 3: over at me. He said, I said, I made it,
- 36:11Speaker 3: Chuck D, you understand this. Chuck D looked at me
- 36:14Speaker 3: and gave me the joint light and in my mind
- 36:17Speaker 3: he told me fight the power like he knew it.
- 36:18Speaker 3: But he didn't say that. Chuck didn't say that right.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Chuck didn't say that right. Chuck didn't say that, But
- 36:26Speaker 3: this is this is the thing that's crazy. Chuck didn't
- 36:28Speaker 3: say that, but I felt as that And he didn't
- 36:30Speaker 3: follow me on this Stagram. You know, I don't not
- 36:31Speaker 3: petty about that.
- 36:32Speaker 2: You didn't get a chance to speak to him.
- 36:33Speaker 3: No, we we wapped it up, but I was I was.
- 36:36Speaker 3: I was ready to pass out because it's Chuck D.
- 36:38Speaker 3: So I couldn't get myself together. He was like, go
- 36:39Speaker 3: and tell Michael Jackson concert. I was ready passed out,
- 36:42Speaker 3: but I didn't want to so Chuck D. I was like, damn,
- 36:45Speaker 3: this dude's a legend. I'm beefing with DJ Premier because
- 36:48Speaker 3: DJ Premier for him to be alleged he followed Gilly
- 36:50Speaker 3: and he wasn't following me. So I'm real petty about that.
- 36:52Speaker 3: I'm like, Gill don't know nothing about rapping. I do, like,
- 36:55Speaker 3: you know, gourgu was like ole to me. Usually so
- 36:58Speaker 3: me and beefing, but like, I love him Bob so much.
- 37:00Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is that I'm not going to
- 37:02Speaker 3: see no legend and don't it, don't freak. I was
- 37:05Speaker 3: crazy because Chuck D. You was a soundtrack to the
- 37:08Speaker 3: struggles that took place in America and Yo, and we
- 37:10Speaker 3: didn't have no food. We had public enemy and that
- 37:12Speaker 3: helped us through the course. So so when she hit me,
- 37:15Speaker 3: I almost passed out. I'm laying down. I'm like, oh
- 37:16Speaker 3: my god, and y'all a Vanzana. She just DM me.
- 37:19Speaker 3: You know what I mean, this is like your spiritual mother.
- 37:21Speaker 3: So I hit her back. But so what happened is
- 37:24Speaker 3: I asked her. I mean I had told Charles. I
- 37:28Speaker 3: was like, yo, man, I said Charles Man. He said, man,
- 37:30Speaker 3: ask her, man, you need to forward asks. I said, bet,
- 37:32Speaker 3: I'm an asker, and I hit her up. She broke.
- 37:35Speaker 3: She let me come to the house, made me a meal.
- 37:36Speaker 3: The food was delicious.
- 37:38Speaker 5: Come on.
- 37:38Speaker 3: I didn't want to be greedy, right, you know what
- 37:40Speaker 3: I mean? But I was like, damn, I didn't want
- 37:41Speaker 3: to ask for another plate.
- 37:42Speaker 2: But it was great.
- 37:43Speaker 3: It was like these stremps. It was just the sauce,
- 37:44Speaker 3: is right. It was just it was spectacular. And I
- 37:47Speaker 3: wanted to make a doggie bag, but I didn't think
- 37:48Speaker 3: that was appropriate. But whatever, but she bring me down
- 37:51Speaker 3: to the house. I'm down there. She showed me so
- 37:53Speaker 3: much us shout out as Zi kid too, her manager
- 37:55Speaker 3: to do things, but like, and she showed me so
- 37:57Speaker 3: much love man, and she and she read me. She
- 38:00Speaker 3: read me beforeward right there and there and and then
- 38:03Speaker 3: I hit up. And when I hit her up to
- 38:05Speaker 3: do for the audio, she just done it that day. Wow.
- 38:08Speaker 3: And I'm talking about like and it was based off
- 38:10Speaker 3: of love and how she seen me for us, and
- 38:12Speaker 3: it was everything.
- 38:13Speaker 4: You know. One thing I want you to talk about
- 38:15Speaker 4: before we leave, you said, you said the feeling of
- 38:17Speaker 4: not being punished for doing something you knew was wrong.
- 38:20Speaker 4: Was equivalent to your first orgasm. How long did it
- 38:24Speaker 4: take for you to actually feel guilt when you when
- 38:26Speaker 4: you did something wrong?
- 38:27Speaker 3: Man, it took me a while because you're young and
- 38:29Speaker 3: you just don't know, so it takes you a while.
- 38:32Speaker 3: And then then when it hit you just be like, damn,
- 38:34Speaker 3: I did some crazy shit, you know. But it was
- 38:37Speaker 3: a while. It was just a thirst.
- 38:39Speaker 2: It was just I don't know.
- 38:40Speaker 3: I think I was just part of stealing an American dream.
- 38:42Speaker 3: I was doing my thing because I wanted to be
- 38:43Speaker 3: You go understand, I'm looking at these fucking movies, man,
- 38:46Speaker 3: I'm looking at ray Leola and motherfucking good Fellas, and
- 38:49Speaker 3: you know the part where he burning the cars up,
- 38:51Speaker 3: he throwing the joint. He said. By the time I
- 38:53Speaker 3: was fourteen, I was making more money than the grown
- 38:55Speaker 3: ups around my neighborhood. I'm like, damn, I wanted to
- 38:57Speaker 3: be there. I wanted some money because we're gonna be
- 39:00Speaker 3: I always tell people this, when that guy in the
- 39:03Speaker 3: eighties pull up with that Bens and you know what
- 39:08Speaker 3: I'm telling me, he got the Bens in the eighties,
- 39:10Speaker 3: he got that gold chain on, he got that Felix
- 39:12Speaker 3: sweatsuit on with them felas he got them rings on them,
- 39:14Speaker 3: nugget rains and all that shit. And he pulled up
- 39:17Speaker 3: to the neighborhood. He's pulling up to our black communities
- 39:20Speaker 3: to deal with the most beautifulest girl in our neighborhood.
- 39:22Speaker 3: And when he pull up to get her, as he
- 39:24Speaker 3: opened in the car door and she getting in the
- 39:26Speaker 3: car door, you know, speaking to him. Ms Johnson, Miss Brown,
- 39:28Speaker 3: Miss Green, They hey, baby. But at the same time,
- 39:33Speaker 3: you're seeing mister john come back from work. He's a
- 39:35Speaker 3: plumber or dirty and everybody speaking to him. I'm sitting
- 39:39Speaker 3: on the step watching all this shit take place. So
- 39:41Speaker 3: I said, damn, I got to be a part of
- 39:42Speaker 3: this shit. In the black community, the women dictate who
- 39:45Speaker 3: the men want to grow up to be based off
- 39:47Speaker 3: of who they date. Real So I'm looking at it
- 39:51Speaker 3: like shit, I'm only seeing these girls. They there dealers
- 39:54Speaker 3: and dudes. They got nice cars. I gotta get me
- 39:56Speaker 3: some nice cars to get me some asks. I got
- 39:58Speaker 3: to get some I gotta hear some jar. I gotta
- 40:00Speaker 3: get some fly. I gotta get fly. That's what it
- 40:02Speaker 3: was about. And the way you saw to get fly
- 40:05Speaker 3: people they only respected the criminals in the game. The
- 40:08Speaker 3: fuck America. Look listen, money and violence. Listen. Do you
- 40:12Speaker 3: go ask any judges, lawyers, prosecutors and all that. What's
- 40:14Speaker 3: your favorite movies? Coy Fathers, what's your favorite series? The Sopranos,
- 40:20Speaker 3: Everything Gonna Be? They love the successful criminals. So I
- 40:23Speaker 3: grew up to try to be that. But as I
- 40:24Speaker 3: grew older, I took responsibility say oh, yeah, I want
- 40:26Speaker 3: some dumb shit I did wrong. You never heard me
- 40:30Speaker 3: say it was No. I wasn't in jail for some
- 40:31Speaker 3: shit that magically did or because of the white man.
- 40:34Speaker 3: I was in jail because I wanted to get busy,
- 40:36Speaker 3: and I did what I did.
- 40:40Speaker 5: To your point about women shaping everything, you talk a
- 40:42Speaker 5: lot about black women and see no women and how
- 40:45Speaker 5: you staff your team with women, can you talk like
- 40:48Speaker 5: why that's important and how that's helped you along your
- 40:50Speaker 5: journey as.
- 40:50Speaker 3: You like, Bill shout out to my manager, business part
- 40:53Speaker 3: of desiret Ivy, shout out the Ammo Rill, shout out
- 40:57Speaker 3: the shayam lost some attorney. These women. Let me say
- 41:01Speaker 3: something to you about these women. They get shit done,
- 41:05Speaker 3: that's right. They not playing games at all. They know
- 41:08Speaker 3: it's not they don't. I don't know what it is about. No,
- 41:11Speaker 3: they getting them going crazy. They lose their mind about No.
- 41:13Speaker 3: I'll be like, damn, what happened? Somebody told me? No,
- 41:15Speaker 3: todath what what's going on? Don't worry about the mine
- 41:17Speaker 3: your business. I get to the bottom, I'll tell you
- 41:18Speaker 3: when I get it done. They move in different, They
- 41:22Speaker 3: move different, man, they move different, and you know what,
- 41:24Speaker 3: you know what's going on. I just want to say this,
- 41:27Speaker 3: And a lot of these companies in America they be
- 41:29Speaker 3: playing games and a lot of times people don't see
- 41:32Speaker 3: them because they be in the shadows. But when it
- 41:36Speaker 3: comes to our culture, black women run.
- 41:38Speaker 2: That shit absolutely.
- 41:39Speaker 3: I'm talking about from not just from the consumer side,
- 41:42Speaker 3: not just from the the marketing side, but from the boardrooms.
- 41:48Speaker 3: The sisters. I went to the ballroom of Rich Claiming
- 41:50Speaker 3: Company with sisters running that shit. Sisters running shit everywhere. Like,
- 41:55Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna get something off you ain't
- 41:56Speaker 3: got no sisters in that fold.
- 41:58Speaker 2: Every single daity I got a black woman running.
- 42:01Speaker 3: Shout out to all the shit Dollar Dolly's a monster,
- 42:04Speaker 3: She's no joking, Nicole, Shout out to all the sisters
- 42:06Speaker 3: out there that's doing it, going up against all the bullshit,
- 42:09Speaker 3: all the racism in these companies, y'all, y'all going to HR.
- 42:13Speaker 3: HR is playing games with y'all. They trying to weed
- 42:16Speaker 3: y'all out. Because as soon as his sister get up
- 42:19Speaker 3: and she stand up for herself, oh she's being everybody
- 42:22Speaker 3: play victims. Soon as the sisters speak up for herself,
- 42:24Speaker 3: after they see all the dumb shit, these people being,
- 42:26Speaker 3: these corporations, throwing all these rocks, doing all this stupid shit.
- 42:29Speaker 3: As soon as his sisters say, I'm not going for that.
- 42:31Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's being aggressive. Oh my god, I'm scared.
- 42:34Speaker 3: Locked the door, get that that's cat. Stop that victim shit.
- 42:37Speaker 3: Because her sisters stepped up for USLF one thing about
- 42:39Speaker 3: a black woman. I don't care who. She's not dealing with,
- 42:41Speaker 3: no bullshit, a sister of color, Latino black, They not
- 42:44Speaker 3: dealing them with that ship. That's right. Why do you
- 42:47Speaker 3: think we scared of?
- 42:47Speaker 2: That's right?
- 42:48Speaker 3: You know what I meant that damn shit.
- 42:50Speaker 2: It's's Luthor Rocky too.
- 42:52Speaker 3: He first of all, first of all, shout out the
- 42:54Speaker 3: Rockhill boy, your ass boy. I just see flights we
- 42:58Speaker 3: go a Rocky. I'm going to see wild we shout
- 43:00Speaker 3: Rocky listen, but Roquel professional named Raquel Diazeus for uh,
- 43:05Speaker 3: you know us getting this done. Great writer did a thing. Uh.
- 43:09Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody, man, my my, oh yeah. Shout
- 43:12Speaker 3: out to Johnathan Minion for the cover. Shout out to
- 43:15Speaker 3: Simon and shooes at thirteen Charles Shoes, everybody for making
- 43:17Speaker 3: it happen. Yeah. No, Johonath Demelia did all the legend
- 43:21Speaker 3: ay hip hop jo he did all the Leegenid did,
- 43:24Speaker 3: jay Z, she did anything. But I just want to
- 43:26Speaker 3: shout out to everybody out there that is doing anything.
- 43:27Speaker 3: And I need to say this to you. I don't
- 43:30Speaker 3: care if you gotta what I stand. You got a
- 43:31Speaker 3: T shirt company, you gotta put the tape out music,
- 43:34Speaker 3: You're doing art. You won yes away from the world changing.
- 43:40Speaker 3: Stop looking on Instagram and thinking everybody's beating you and
- 43:42Speaker 3: you running late and you ain't enough. And I want
- 43:45Speaker 3: to say something to the sisters out there, you are enough.
- 43:49Speaker 3: They'll never let nobody finiss you. Don't tell you that
- 43:51Speaker 3: you got to be this and you gotta have this,
- 43:53Speaker 3: you gotta wear this. You gotta go head, you gotta
- 43:55Speaker 3: take live your fucking life. Do you in every way
- 43:58Speaker 3: possible and tell them young brother out there, y'all kings,
- 44:01Speaker 3: y'all ain't slaves. So what y'all gotta do is, y'all
- 44:04Speaker 3: got to understand, y'all the most fearless group of young
- 44:08Speaker 3: men ever on the history of life. This generation right now,
- 44:11Speaker 3: this generation of young black men out here is the
- 44:13Speaker 3: most fearless Black men ever. Y'all do not give off.
- 44:18Speaker 3: Just imagine if y'all switch that up. Imagine what you
- 44:21Speaker 3: could do when you go when you say, you know what,
- 44:23Speaker 3: I don't want to be a drug deal I want
- 44:24Speaker 3: to be a business man. I don't want to be
- 44:26Speaker 3: a killer. I want to be a healer. I want
- 44:28Speaker 3: to be a giver. I'm saying they could change. And
- 44:30Speaker 3: to my young brothers in the community, rap community, stay
- 44:38Speaker 3: away from them drugs man. And it's coming from a
- 44:41Speaker 3: man that never did a drug a day in his life.
- 44:43Speaker 3: I never did it because I had to watch my homies.
- 44:45Speaker 3: I had to make sure they get home at night.
- 44:47Speaker 3: And my homiees smoked. You know, they didn't smoke PCP
- 44:50Speaker 3: did all that type of shit, you know, to snort.
- 44:52Speaker 3: The little coach, you know, did a little bit of
- 44:54Speaker 3: little but I always watched it and I said that
- 44:56Speaker 3: ain't for me. And I don't know who told you this.
- 44:59Speaker 3: If you you're going through somebody, find somebody to talk to,
- 45:01Speaker 3: get a therapist, get a therapist. Stop trying to self
- 45:05Speaker 3: medicate yourself because you don't know what you're doing. And
- 45:07Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something, brothers. When you hit the town,
- 45:09Speaker 3: you young brothers, and I'm gonna be real with you,
- 45:11Speaker 3: everybody is trying their way to get some drugs to you.
- 45:14Speaker 3: And you don't know if anybody drugs is drugs. I'm
- 45:17Speaker 3: just being straight up. I don't know you know what
- 45:18Speaker 3: I mean. I'm just saying, you got all these people,
- 45:20Speaker 3: make it fake this, fake this. You don't know what
- 45:22Speaker 3: you're taking. And when you get that money, young brothers,
- 45:26Speaker 3: stay out of don't stay off them handcuffs. Man, Please please, man,
- 45:31Speaker 3: no disrespect your blessing because God ain't gonna keep blessing you.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Man.
- 45:33Speaker 3: You think God, listen, God gotta work with billions of people.
- 45:35Speaker 3: You think God will just keep coming around blessing you.
- 45:38Speaker 3: That's right. God ain't gonna keep blessing you. Take advantage
- 45:40Speaker 3: of these blessings. Keep doing your thing, and just know
- 45:42Speaker 3: anytime you see, don't stop me. I'm gonna say something
- 45:44Speaker 3: to you. I'm gonna tell you what's going on. And
- 45:46Speaker 3: a lot of y'all know. I'll reach out.
- 45:47Speaker 2: I DM y'all.
- 45:48Speaker 3: I talk to y'all regular. Man. Just know that you kings,
- 45:51Speaker 3: know that you queens, and know that the world is
- 45:53Speaker 3: waiting for all of us. And we're gonna make it.
- 45:56Speaker 3: We're gonna make it.
- 45:57Speaker 4: We gonna you know, listen, Good Intentions is out now, man,
- 46:01Speaker 4: everybody go pick this book up from Wallow.
- 46:04Speaker 3: Uh.
- 46:04Speaker 4: We gotta make this in New York Times best seller.
- 46:07Speaker 4: When today tonight we're gonna be at Uncle Bobby's in Philadelphia,
- 46:13Speaker 4: me and my man Wallow having more conversations with Bobby's.
- 46:16Speaker 2: Yes about this book.
- 46:17Speaker 3: Armed with a good intentions, make sure we get you stopped,
- 46:20Speaker 3: my man spot. Make sure to give you them cheese steaks.
- 46:21Speaker 3: You like them, taste cheese steaks.
- 46:23Speaker 2: I had some joints something without that you like.
- 46:25Speaker 3: He was he was home, he too the way you
- 46:26Speaker 3: made them damn.
- 46:30Speaker 4: Oh yeah probably yeah, yes, yes, hey slute, the taste
- 46:35Speaker 4: sell cheese crazy now I like that type of stuff.
- 46:38Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, and uh, find your way to
- 46:41Speaker 3: support local businesses.
- 46:42Speaker 2: Make Wallow New York Times best seller What Happens Wallow
- 46:46Speaker 2: On tammering and all.
- 46:48Speaker 3: That stuff up. We gotta also, uh, we gotta get
- 46:52Speaker 3: if you're out there, if you have any hair killing companies.
- 46:56Speaker 3: DJ Mvious, looking.
- 47:00Speaker 4: Like the Darts eyebrowns his mother sponsors The Gentlemanking Brown
- 47:04Speaker 4: wall Don't Make Good Intentions is out now.
- 47:07Speaker 3: Pick it up. The Brown Girls grinding, Wake that ass
- 47:10Speaker 3: up in the morning.
- 47:12Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club