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Garlic, Guitars & Guts with Jason Flashner · Laugh Love Law

0:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm heading a long way.
0:13
SPEAKER_03: Welcome back to Laugh Love Law.
0:15
SPEAKER_03: I am very excited for our next guest.
0:18
SPEAKER_03: He may have had one of my favorite career path stories that we've ever featured.
0:23
SPEAKER_03: He started out in corporate America, worked his way up to management at Enterprise Rent ACAR, decided corporate life was absolutely not for him, quit without a backup plan, ran out of money.
0:35
SPEAKER_03: What came next?
0:36
SPEAKER_03: He ended up delivering garlic to the tri-state area.
0:40
SPEAKER_03: We'll definitely ask him about that.
0:42
SPEAKER_03: And then somewhere along the line, he became an English teacher, a musician, a recording studio owner, a husband, a dad, and someone who now willingly gets on a surfboard in the ocean.
0:56
SPEAKER_03: Here's my favorite part.
0:58
SPEAKER_03: He didn't start playing an instrument until he was 28 years old.
1:02
SPEAKER_03: Since then, he's had four songs played on FM radio, released his own music, opened Flowstream Studio, and has new music on the horizon.
1:13
SPEAKER_03: So if you've ever thought you were too old, it was too late, or you were too scared to change your path, think differently.
1:21
SPEAKER_03: I'd like to welcome Jay Flashner to Laugh Love Law.
1:25
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having me.
1:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, how was that introduction?
1:28
SPEAKER_02: I it was I it it made me think a lot about wow, I did start a lot of things late in life, but uh definitely a good introduction.
1:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think I used more more commas with you than any other guest so far.
1:39
SPEAKER_02: As an English teacher, I could appreciate it.
1:40
SPEAKER_03: Okay, good.
1:41
SPEAKER_03: I use them in the right place, don't worry.
1:43
SPEAKER_03: Um, okay, so what doesn't make it into your professional bio?
1:47
SPEAKER_03: I know there's a lot there, but what have you done or what is a part of you that doesn't get included into your professional bio?
1:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know if this would be in my professional bio as far I think being a dad uh is not necessarily in my in my work bio, but uh it's definitely probably my biggest and most important job I I think I have.
2:06
SPEAKER_03: Best thing you've ever done?
2:07
SPEAKER_02: It is.
2:07
SPEAKER_02: I d uh another thing I started very, very late on.
2:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh in my late 40s, I became a dad.
2:12
SPEAKER_02: My daughter's now four years old, she's out there listening, and um, yeah, best thing that's ever happened.
2:18
SPEAKER_03: Oh, and she's beautiful.
2:19
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
2:20
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
2:21
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so I gave you this questionnaire and you filled it out perfectly.
2:26
SPEAKER_03: But you mentioned a story that I don't remember.
2:29
SPEAKER_03: So I'm going to turn it over to you to tell the mosquitoes attacking Steve's head story.
2:38
SPEAKER_03: Now, um, go ahead.
2:40
SPEAKER_02: It literally goes down as probably the fun no the funniest thing that I've ever like the most the hardest I've ever left was that day.
2:48
SPEAKER_02: I didn't remember where it was I told you in the questionnaire, but uh I spoke to Dustin and uh it wound up it was in Fire Island.
2:55
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
2:55
SPEAKER_02: And um I guess Josh was uh chef there.
2:59
SPEAKER_02: I forgot that part too.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
3:01
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it all came as Dustin started telling me this morning, it all started coming back to me as well.
3:06
SPEAKER_02: And uh basically we Steve, Dustin, and I went down somewhere by the ocean, we were just talking and everything.
3:13
SPEAKER_02: We started going back up, and Steve's slapping his head, and and and all of a sudden I'm seeing a red mark pop up, and then another one, and then there's mosquitoes just everywhere around his head, and I'm like, and and I I'm laughing a little bit, Dustin's laughing a little bit, but then at some point, as it just as it just kept getting worse and worse.
3:30
SPEAKER_02: He's slapping he was slapping his head.
3:32
SPEAKER_02: It went red, yeah.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: It's gold.
3:35
SPEAKER_02: I started cracking up, and once it's once the laughter really came out, I just could not stop laughing.
3:41
SPEAKER_03: You know, I think about that night, that was a long time ago.
3:44
SPEAKER_03: It was um probably almost 20 years ago.
3:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:47
SPEAKER_03: And we had like a karaoke thing going on, and Josh was cooking at that restaurant whose name I don't remember.
3:55
SPEAKER_03: I don't I I don't know if I ever heard the mosquito story, but and one more thing to add to that story, as you're saying about the karaoke.
4:02
SPEAKER_02: I remember I had probably been playing guitar for maybe five years at that point.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just started like performing out and everything, and I think everybody was trying to ex or was would maybe expecting me to want to do karaoke and everything, but I just really um I didn't I think you guys were like like I know Britney did it, I'm pretty sure you did karaoke, and I'm I'm almost positive I'd wound up not doing it because I think I've done karaoke maybe one time in my life, and I'm just not comfortable without my guitar in front of me.
4:28
SPEAKER_03: Alright, so you're a musician, you love to play, but karaoke is not your thing.
4:32
SPEAKER_02: Pretty much.
4:32
SPEAKER_03: Alright, yeah, that that's that is cool.
4:34
SPEAKER_03: You're probably not the first musician to feel that way.
4:37
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so I have some more questions for you.
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SPEAKER_03: But we we kind of have to start with the garlic story.
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SPEAKER_03: So you were in corporate America, you worked your way up, you realized it wasn't for you, you quit, you ran out of money, and then you were delivering garlic.
4:51
SPEAKER_03: Is that a thing?
4:52
SPEAKER_02: I didn't think it was a thing either.
4:53
SPEAKER_02: And there's even a little more to that story when I quit.
4:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I was at Enterprise, I I really didn't like this the suit and tie thing.
5:01
SPEAKER_02: I didn't like working on Saturdays, and a man as a manager, you have to work every Saturday.
5:05
SPEAKER_02: So when I quit, um, so I I'm like, I I thought I had enough money saved up.
5:09
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I'll quit, I'll go to graduate school, and I'll become a I had my major in English before um from when I went to college.
5:15
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
5:17
SPEAKER_02: So I quit enterprise pretty much on the spot, gave them my two weeks notice.
5:20
SPEAKER_02: With I didn't have a job lined up at all, I started going to graduate school, and I'm almost done with graduate school, and I'm realizing I probably had like six more months left.
5:28
SPEAKER_02: I had no money left.
5:30
SPEAKER_02: I was I was uh I was living with Dustin at the time.
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SPEAKER_02: We we wound up going our own our own ways as far as living living goes.
5:38
SPEAKER_03: Dustin is my brother-in-law, right?
5:40
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
5:40
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
5:41
SPEAKER_02: And um, long story short, I wound up uh I was kind of like any day, maybe even that same day, I was going to go to Stornybrook to disenroll from from college from my graduate program because I just couldn't swing it.
5:54
SPEAKER_02: And what I I played a lot of soccer growing up, and one of the one of the guys that played soccer, I'll I'll say his name.
6:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm not I haven't seen him in quite a while, but Danny Longo, actually his twin brother Mike Longo gave me a call.
6:05
SPEAKER_02: And he said, I know you've been looking for a job.
6:08
SPEAKER_02: I saw you say it.
6:09
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, Facebook wasn't even around, I don't know how he heard that I was looking for a job, but he called me saying that his brother owned a uh Westbury Produce uh produce company.
6:19
SPEAKER_02: And he had a and he had a friend named Robbie who owned a garlic company.
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SPEAKER_02: Long story short, I wound up getting this job and it it really saved me back then.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a good amount of money back then.
6:27
SPEAKER_03: Delivering garlic.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah,$450 cash I was making 20 years ago.
6:31
SPEAKER_02: It saved it saved me and got me into my into my teaching edge uh career.
6:36
SPEAKER_03: So maybe the title of this episode should be From Garlic to Music or Garlic to Teaching?
6:41
SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure, but yeah, the garlic's gotta come in.
6:44
SPEAKER_03: Looking back now, as uh almost 50 year old.
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SPEAKER_02: 51.
6:48
SPEAKER_03: 51.
6:49
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
6:50
SPEAKER_03: Was quitting enterprise the best decision or the worst decision you ever made?
6:54
SPEAKER_02: Definitely the best.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh I mean I was making even again back then 20 years ago, I was probably making 25 years ago.
7:01
SPEAKER_02: I was making somewhat similar to what I'm making now, but quality of life just wasn't there.
7:05
SPEAKER_02: Summers off, vacations.
7:07
SPEAKER_02: I could definitely can't complain.
7:08
SPEAKER_03: All right, so tell me about teacher flash.
7:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh it's a different, different, definitely uh different than everything else I do.
7:17
SPEAKER_02: Um what do you teach?
7:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh sixth grade reading right now.
7:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm an English teacher.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: I've taught every grade through um from sixth through twelfth grade.
7:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm up in Glen Cove.
7:25
SPEAKER_02: Uh the best part of the job is definitely the students.
7:29
SPEAKER_02: Worst part of the job can be the politics that goes along with teaching and stuff, but I guess that's that's anywhere you go.
7:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
7:35
SPEAKER_03: Um how long have you been teaching?
7:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh this is gonna be my 22nd year.
7:40
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: So here I am saying 20 years, so it's more than that.
7:43
SPEAKER_02: It's more like when when it's garlic had to be like 25.
7:46
SPEAKER_02: Wow, time goes quick, 25, 27 years.
7:48
SPEAKER_03: The garlic saga was more than 20 years.
7:50
SPEAKER_03: The garlic saga, maybe that's what the episode was like.
7:52
SPEAKER_03: I like that.
7:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I like that.
7:54
SPEAKER_03: So, so you teach English, reading?
7:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
7:57
SPEAKER_03: Okay, and how does music fit into your life?
8:00
SPEAKER_03: That's a big part of your life.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm sure like I've I've always been to back when I was going to college at Stony Brook, I was writing poems here and there.
8:07
SPEAKER_02: I didn't start playing I started everything kind of late in life.
8:10
SPEAKER_02: I started I picked up a never played an instrument until I was 28 years old.
8:14
SPEAKER_02: And um, when I started playing my instrument, I was going to Barnes and Noble.
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SPEAKER_02: I did I didn't have any money.
8:19
SPEAKER_02: This is so funny.
8:19
SPEAKER_02: I was going to Barnes Noble.
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SPEAKER_02: YouTube wasn't there yet.
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SPEAKER_02: I'd go to Barnes and Noble every night and go, I wouldn't I didn't even buy the book.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: I'd go there, I'd sit there, and I'd write down the chords from the book, and then I'd put the book back, I'd go home and practice the chords.
8:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:32
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
8:33
SPEAKER_02: Once I got once I got like three or four chords under my belt, then I would then I took then I'm like, oh wait, I have those po those poems I was working on.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
8:41
SPEAKER_02: So I'd I'd and and I'd go back and that's how I started writing my first song and and it all started coming together.
8:47
SPEAKER_02: So I guess I guess um lyric lyrics is like my my strong point, which is kind of what pushed me into becoming an English teacher.
8:53
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, it all kind of fixed fits together.
8:56
SPEAKER_03: And do you perform now?
8:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, very regularly.
8:59
SPEAKER_03: Where do you perform?
9:01
SPEAKER_02: Um mostly and yesterday I played a back uh backyard party out by where you live, I think, Cinema Riches.
9:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh I play a lot of backyard parties in Massapequa.
9:10
SPEAKER_02: I play um at a at a bar called the Bunker Bar in Oceanside.
9:15
SPEAKER_02: August 30th is my next show.
9:17
SPEAKER_03: Very nice, very nice.
9:18
SPEAKER_03: So people hire you privately.
9:20
SPEAKER_02: Mostly, yeah.
9:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
9:21
SPEAKER_03: Very nice.
9:22
SPEAKER_03: And you record your own music.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: I do.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: I have a I have a little uh in my detached garage in my at home, I have a a recording studio, and uh that's where I've been doing my recording for at least the past 15 years.
9:33
SPEAKER_02: Even before then, when I lived in apartments, I had some stuff like I used Logic Pro and a little laptop.
9:38
SPEAKER_02: I'd go into a closet, record some stuff, yeah.
9:40
SPEAKER_03: And then you made yourself your own space to record.
9:42
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
9:43
SPEAKER_03: Did your daughter show any interest in music?
9:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she loves it.
9:46
SPEAKER_02: She she's every morning without fail, she comes in, she asks me if she could uh go into the studio, she'll bang on the drums, uh, play the piano.
9:54
SPEAKER_02: She wants she starts taking out a notebook, pretending she's writing some songs.
9:59
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
9:59
SPEAKER_03: Anything you wrote from your younger days revitalized into something now?
10:04
SPEAKER_03: Have you taken anything like a poem from you know 20 plus years ago and trying to get a few years ago?
10:08
SPEAKER_02: It's funny you say that because my next song I'm gonna be releasing in about a month, it's called Click and Clash.
10:12
SPEAKER_02: I actually wrote it probably like 25 years ago.
10:14
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just re-recording it and getting it out there now.
10:16
SPEAKER_02: I I love that again, getting it out there again now.
10:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because it is on Spotify, but it's the recording's not that as good as as well.
10:23
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
10:23
SPEAKER_03: It's an older, yeah.
10:24
SPEAKER_03: It's an older recording.
10:26
SPEAKER_03: And what made you pick up an instrument at 28?
10:30
SPEAKER_02: I I I remember when I was playing college soccer with Dustin, uh, we had this a guy on the team named Chris.
10:36
SPEAKER_02: We'd go he'd go on away trips and uh he'd bring his guitar everywhere.
10:39
SPEAKER_02: I remember he'd play um that Counting Crow song, the popular one.
10:44
SPEAKER_02: She talks to Angels.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
10:45
SPEAKER_02: And it was such a cool riff and intro, and I'm I I would have him try to teach me.
10:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh, I'll never be able to do this.
10:50
SPEAKER_02: And oh, here's where it all comes, it ties together is that what made me play, I was delivering garlic for Robbie for like probably six months.
11:00
SPEAKER_02: He had always had a guitar there.
11:01
SPEAKER_02: He's like, I'll teach you, I'll teach you.
11:03
SPEAKER_02: I would always use the word never.
11:04
SPEAKER_02: I said, Robbie, I'm never gonna my hands are too small.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: I can't play an F chord, I'm never gonna be able to play an F chord.
11:10
SPEAKER_02: He gave me some exercises, and I just kept pushing through, pushing through, and he was really my first teacher.
11:16
SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
11:17
SPEAKER_03: So there's more to the garlic than just the garlic.
11:19
SPEAKER_02: I think we're gonna keep going back then.
11:20
SPEAKER_03: We are, we are.
11:21
SPEAKER_03: The garlic is where it all began.
11:23
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so a lot of people who are in their 40s and 50s and and older will say, It's too late for me to do this, or oh, I missed the boat on that.
11:35
SPEAKER_03: What would you say to those people?
11:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I thought you were I would say ask me that again in a second, but what I was gonna say was most people would say it's too late to have a kid.
11:46
SPEAKER_02: Which I thought it might I thought I was thinking maybe I was gonna be retiring in like four years.
11:49
SPEAKER_02: Not now it's not gonna happen, but but um but repeat that question once.
11:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:53
SPEAKER_03: So my question is people that are in their 40s, 50s, older that are saying, Oh, it's too late for me to pursue this dream or to follow through with this passion, uh, what would you say to them?
12:04
SPEAKER_02: I would give them yet another story about uh my uh it might be it might be in here, but my passion for uh paddle surfing.
12:12
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
12:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I I'll right now I'll paddle surf anytime all all winter long, any any size wave on Long Island.
12:20
SPEAKER_02: I I I really, really enjoy it.
12:22
SPEAKER_02: And the craziest thing about it is I had a I I buy I when I was younger, I'd go to Tobey Beach every day, I'd be boogie boarding every day, no problem at all.
12:30
SPEAKER_02: Once I turned 20, I don't know what happened to me, but I had uh an incredible fear of the ocean.
12:35
SPEAKER_02: Really?
12:36
SPEAKER_02: Like I'd go play beach volleyball with my friends and they'd be diving in the ocean after, and I would literally like like not even touch the shore.
12:42
SPEAKER_02: I I had like an irrational fears like of of like razor clams or even needles like getting me because I couldn't see in the in the ocean.
12:50
SPEAKER_02: So long story short, my friend one day was like, You gotta come paddle boarding with me.
12:54
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I'm really afraid, I'm really afraid.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: I went, I tried it with him, I was really afraid.
12:59
SPEAKER_02: I was almost crying.
13:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, get me back to shore, Cody.
13:01
SPEAKER_02: You gotta get me back to shore.
13:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to be here.
13:03
SPEAKER_02: We weren't in the ocean, this was just the bay.
13:05
SPEAKER_02: I just didn't want to touch the bottom of the bay at all.
13:07
SPEAKER_02: So he got me back to shore.
13:09
SPEAKER_02: My parents had a house in Florida.
13:11
SPEAKER_02: I wound up going to Florida, I was bored there a little bit.
13:13
SPEAKER_02: It was crystal clear water.
13:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, let me try paddleboarding here.
13:16
SPEAKER_02: I tried it there, and that must have been what really I I like I really enjoyed it, I loved it.
13:20
SPEAKER_02: Came home, went to South Shore paddleboards in Babylon, which is not there anymore, but bought a paddleboard, and and surfing has like definitely changed my life.
13:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm incredibly passionate about it, and that's why I would say it's never too late because I started when I was 38, and now I'm 51, and I will go every single day if there whenever there are waves.
13:42
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's funny, I I see the same article that comes up over and over again on social media, on just the internet, or it's you know, Oprah Winfrey didn't get her first break until 35.
13:53
SPEAKER_03: Uh this one didn't start their career.
13:55
SPEAKER_03: And and it's funny, as we're getting older, the ages are getting a lot closer.
13:58
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, oh, okay.
14:00
SPEAKER_03: Well, I hope I already took care of that and that because I turned 50 this year and I was like, oh.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: But turned or turned?
14:06
SPEAKER_03: Turned.
14:07
SPEAKER_03: February.
14:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh, gotcha.
14:08
SPEAKER_03: Happy birthday.
14:09
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
14:09
SPEAKER_02: February what?
14:10
SPEAKER_03: 19th.
14:11
SPEAKER_02: Callie's the 10th, and Brittany is the 11th.
14:13
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
14:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, February's a big month in our family.
14:16
SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, so I I feel like for me at least, it's it's never too late for most things anyway.
14:23
SPEAKER_03: Like, I I I've always been an attorney.
14:26
SPEAKER_03: I really haven't changed my path, but I've done different things.
14:29
SPEAKER_03: Like I started my own practice 10 years ago, and you know, I started doing a podcast at 50.
14:35
SPEAKER_03: So like it's never too late to do.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: I mean, listen, within reason, right?
14:39
SPEAKER_03: Like, I I I don't think, you know, if you're a 75-year-old woman, you could have a child.
14:45
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't know, maybe technology will prove me wrong.
14:47
SPEAKER_03: Nowadays, you never know.
14:48
SPEAKER_03: But you never know.
14:49
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, for most things it's but at 75, you can pick up a guitar.
14:52
SPEAKER_02: It's it is it is never too late.
14:54
SPEAKER_03: You can, you can.
14:55
SPEAKER_03: I had students when I was teaching grad school that were in their 60s and early 70s getting their undergraduate degrees.
15:01
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, that's awesome.
15:03
SPEAKER_03: I I even had in my law school class, I had a retired doctor who decided, I guess for sh you know, crapping giggles, he wanted to become an attorney.
15:16
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, wow, that's I mean, God bless you.
15:19
SPEAKER_03: I don't know why you'd want to do that, but yeah, I mean, it's really never too late.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: I decided I'm done with any sort of tests or anything like that.
15:25
SPEAKER_02: So I think it is too late for me for any other career change.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:29
SPEAKER_03: So this is an interesting one.
15:30
SPEAKER_03: You're the first person to put in their questionnaire something called the sand car.
15:37
SPEAKER_03: Do you want to explain that, Jay?
15:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh, my car is sandy.
15:41
SPEAKER_03: All the time.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: Like I said, I mean, I'm I'm I'm at the beach.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, I I got to the point where I'm like, why even clean it?
15:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm just if I go back to the beach tomorrow, it's gonna get all the sand in it again.
15:49
SPEAKER_03: Like enough sand that Callie can build a sand castle?
15:52
SPEAKER_03: It's weird.
15:52
SPEAKER_03: Or just like messy and dirty.
15:55
SPEAKER_02: She could probably build something.
15:57
SPEAKER_03: You know, your friend Dustin would be very upset that your car was that sandy.
16:01
SPEAKER_02: Him and I are, and my wife and I are are very opposite.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think I'm opposite most people in that way.
16:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm not a complete mess in my in my uh in my house, but my car is definitely uh not the cleanest.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: Not up to standards.
16:13
SPEAKER_02: I've got music stuff in there.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm always I'm I'm a traveling guy.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to a show here, going to surf here, so it's I'm like, why why why take it to a car wash today if it's just gonna get messy tomorrow?
16:23
SPEAKER_03: Oh no.
16:24
SPEAKER_03: Are you like one of those people that says, why make my bed if I'm just gonna get into it later?
16:28
SPEAKER_03: You have to make it.
16:29
SPEAKER_02: Now the bed's made every day.
16:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the bed has to be made.
16:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:31
SPEAKER_03: I mean, even if you're gonna get back into it later.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: It is the same philosophy, yeah.
16:35
SPEAKER_03: It is, it is.
16:36
SPEAKER_03: Um, are you ready to play a little laugh love law?
16:39
SPEAKER_02: Let's play.
16:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, alright.
16:40
SPEAKER_03: So I want you to grab those three paddles.
16:43
SPEAKER_03: All right, the rules are simple.
16:46
SPEAKER_03: If you I'm gonna give you a random topic.
16:48
SPEAKER_03: If you love it, you hold up the love paddle.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: If it's funny, you put up the laugh paddle.
16:52
SPEAKER_03: And if it's terrible or you hate it, it's the law paddle.
16:55
SPEAKER_03: I don't hate being a lawyer, but it's just a logical choice, you know.
16:58
SPEAKER_03: I get it.
16:58
SPEAKER_03: Um if there's a little story or an explanation, please share, but you don't have to.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna go fast.
17:03
SPEAKER_03: Are you ready?
17:04
SPEAKER_02: Got it.
17:04
SPEAKER_02: Ready.
17:06
SPEAKER_03: Group chat names.
17:09
SPEAKER_02: What does that mean?
17:10
SPEAKER_03: Huh?
17:10
SPEAKER_03: See?
17:11
SPEAKER_03: Like if you have like a family group chat and in your phone it's labeled like the cousins.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, no matter what, I'm going.
17:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you don't like it.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: I don't like group chats.
17:20
SPEAKER_03: Oh, there you go.
17:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh threads uh with too many emails, too many texts going on, and you're in I'm in a group I'm in a beach volleyball group thread with like 15 people and it goes off all day long.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know when to look at what the messages exactly.
17:32
SPEAKER_03: French fries dipped in your milkshake.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh, milkshake?
17:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: It's not bad.
17:38
SPEAKER_03: What laugh is Yeah, like it it you could smirk, you could smile.
17:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:42
SPEAKER_03: I'm not a big like dipping the fries in something sweet, but people love it.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: I like French fries and I like milkshakes together.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: But not together.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
17:49
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
17:50
SPEAKER_03: Parents using current slang.
17:54
SPEAKER_02: Like I'm gonna say love because I'm probably one of those one of those older guys now.
17:59
SPEAKER_03: Alright, well, you gotta hold it up then.
18:00
SPEAKER_03: Alright, there you go.
18:01
SPEAKER_03: Love.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: I feel like Callie's small, but like when Josh and I use like current, not even slang, but like anything that that's like too cool for us, the kids think it's cringy.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I call it Callie bro, and she does not like it.
18:15
SPEAKER_03: Well, Charlotte, our our littlest one, calls my husband bro Chacho.
18:20
SPEAKER_03: That's what she calls her dad.
18:21
SPEAKER_03: Bro Chacho.
18:22
SPEAKER_02: She calls me dude.
18:23
SPEAKER_03: Dude, I like it.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
18:25
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
18:25
SPEAKER_03: Filling an online cart up and buying nothing.
18:30
SPEAKER_02: I would not like that.
18:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't uh that's that's law.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: Right, there you go.
18:34
SPEAKER_03: That's law.
18:35
SPEAKER_03: All right, all right.
18:36
SPEAKER_03: He did pretty good with the laugh-love law.
18:38
SPEAKER_03: You ready to do the hard stuff?
18:39
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna do some capsule confessions.
18:41
SPEAKER_03: Got you three capsules.
18:43
SPEAKER_03: Let's open each one.
18:44
SPEAKER_03: You can put them on the couch if you want.
18:46
SPEAKER_03: And you can either answer the question, you can ask me the question, or you can save it for the next guest.
18:52
SPEAKER_03: The hard part's getting them open.
18:54
SPEAKER_03: Alright, so read it out loud.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: If you could have dinner with any historical figure, who would it be?
19:01
SPEAKER_03: That's a good question for a teacher.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna have a uh a maybe a surprising answer, but uh Bob Marley.
19:07
SPEAKER_02: And in fact, my wife was just telling me a story about some there was like an 85-year-old guy, and one of the things he he he made a reel about um a key to living longer, and he suggests everybody listen to Bob Marley every day.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: And I kind of like I I'm I'm along with that because uh like his words are are always about peace, love, and having a good time.
19:24
SPEAKER_03: So and if you met him, would you wanna jam with him?
19:28
SPEAKER_03: Would you want to talk to him?
19:28
SPEAKER_03: What would you want to do?
19:29
SPEAKER_02: Probably a lot, yeah.
19:30
SPEAKER_02: Definitely jam and definitely eat and talk.
19:33
SPEAKER_03: Alright, I like it.
19:34
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
19:34
SPEAKER_03: Alright, the next one.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: Number two.
19:40
SPEAKER_02: What is your favorite thing to do on vacation?
19:44
SPEAKER_02: Mine's gonna be surf, so I'm gonna ask you this one.
19:46
SPEAKER_03: Um, probably eat.
19:48
SPEAKER_03: Like new restaurants, try different things to eat.
19:51
SPEAKER_03: Definitely, definitely love food, especially pizza.
19:55
SPEAKER_02: What about like if you were in um uh a foreign land?
20:00
SPEAKER_02: Would you eat like like any sort of cowbrains, cow tongue?
20:03
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not adventurous at all with food.
20:05
SPEAKER_03: Like I like the things that I like, but I like to try them at different places.
20:08
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not sure.
20:09
SPEAKER_03: I have no problem.
20:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I have no problem saying, ew, that's gross, I'm not eating it.
20:13
SPEAKER_03: And I don't care if that seems uncultured.
20:16
SPEAKER_02: I hear you.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: Alright, number three.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: If your life had a warning label, what would it say?
20:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how to answer that.
20:31
SPEAKER_02: Do you have an answer for that?
20:31
SPEAKER_02: What was the third option?
20:33
SPEAKER_03: You can save it for our next guest.
20:34
SPEAKER_02: I think we're gonna do that one.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
20:35
SPEAKER_03: Alright, so let's put it back in the capsule and we'll save that.
20:40
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
20:41
SPEAKER_03: We'll save that for our next guest.
20:43
SPEAKER_03: I like that.
20:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll take the cat and put it back.
20:50
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
20:51
SPEAKER_03: Alright, we're gonna play another game.
20:53
SPEAKER_03: Now, we might need your musical skills for this one.
20:56
SPEAKER_03: You ready?
20:57
SPEAKER_03: So don't um, I'm gonna pick up this box that's sitting in front of us, but don't look at it.
21:01
SPEAKER_03: Okay?
21:01
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna close your eyes.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
21:03
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna reach in, and you're gonna grab any item.
21:06
SPEAKER_03: And then once you take the item out, you'll show it to us, and then I'll tell you what to do next.
21:10
SPEAKER_03: Okay?
21:11
SPEAKER_03: Ready?
21:11
SPEAKER_03: Close your eyes.
21:13
SPEAKER_03: Shake it up.
21:15
SPEAKER_03: Go ahead, grab an item.
21:17
SPEAKER_03: Any item.
21:18
SPEAKER_02: That feels like hair.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: Alright, alright.
21:27
SPEAKER_03: Alright, we got a suitcase.
21:30
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
21:31
SPEAKER_03: Um, it's a pretty good one.
21:33
SPEAKER_03: It's got some hair attached to it, though.
21:34
SPEAKER_03: It isn't mine this time.
21:36
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
21:37
SPEAKER_03: So, in 30 seconds, give us the name of a song that you're gonna write right now about a suitcase or traveling or luggage, and sing us the first line.
21:51
SPEAKER_03: Try not to destroy your musical career, but you know, this is a sort of thing.
21:55
SPEAKER_02: Is this what you do with i I mean, is this uh is it always about a song on this guy?
21:59
SPEAKER_02: No, no, so it
22:00
SPEAKER_03: Yes, get something that's Carolyn right to them.
22:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna call I'm gonna make up a song right now called I'm leaving and I'm taking my suitcase.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: And the first line of the song?
22:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm leaving and I'm taking my suitcase.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: But I'm also taking my family with me.
22:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm not leaving them.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm just leaving uh leaving work and all like idea.
22:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
22:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm leaving the suitcase.
22:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm leaving and I'm taking my suitcase with me.
22:26
SPEAKER_03: Good job.
22:26
SPEAKER_03: I think it would be like number 200 on the chart.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: If I had time, I think I could probably work something out of it, but I don't know.
22:34
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
22:35
SPEAKER_03: Good job.
22:35
SPEAKER_03: Alright, now.
22:38
SPEAKER_03: I know that you don't like karaoke.
22:40
SPEAKER_03: And that's okay.
22:41
SPEAKER_03: I love karaoke.
22:42
SPEAKER_03: But I also don't play an instrument.
22:44
SPEAKER_03: I know that you brought your guitar with you.
22:46
SPEAKER_03: Would it be too much to ask you to break out the guitar?
22:50
SPEAKER_03: And you can invite Callie in here if you want and play us something.
22:54
SPEAKER_02: She's saying yes, I would definitely.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah?
22:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:56
SPEAKER_03: Alright, so let's take a minute.
22:58
SPEAKER_03: You can go grab your guitar and your adorable daughter.
23:00
SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
23:01
SPEAKER_03: And you can give us a treat.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: Alright, this is a song I wrote called This Wave.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: You ready?
23:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm heading in on a long way.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: Just about halfway to the shore.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: This wave is bound for glory.
23:27
SPEAKER_01: This wave tells my life story.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: This wave is what I'm living for.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: Though I've been caught inside, I have learned to stay calm and watch the great gravity.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: One day this wave will crack, but for now, this wave will carry me.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: One thing I learned while on this long away is that balance is the key.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: This wave has moved below me.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: This wave has tried to grow me, but I stood strong on the sea.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I've been caught inside and I learned to stay calm and watch the greats in gravity.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: One day this wave will craft, but for now this wave will carry me.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I've been caught inside and I'll learn.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: Just take all and watch the brakes.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: In gravity.
24:57
SPEAKER_01: One day this wave will crash.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: But for now, this wave will carry me.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I've been caught inside and I learned.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: Take all and watch the brakes.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: One day this wave will crash.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: But for now, this wave will carry me.
25:24
SPEAKER_01: One day this wave will crash.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: But for now, this wave will carry me.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: Hey.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
25:44
SPEAKER_03: Jay, that was wonderful.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: Thank you very much.
25:46
SPEAKER_03: Did you write that?
25:47
SPEAKER_02: I did.
25:48
SPEAKER_02: That was that was uh I wro I wrote that like probably ten years ago.
25:51
SPEAKER_03: And when you're talking about the wave, you're talking about a real wave, a proverbial wave.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: It is proverbial.
25:57
SPEAKER_02: In fact, I do use it as a back to teaching now.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: I do use it as a lesson in one of my uh metaphor metaphorical language.
26:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh this wave.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: The the the first uh few lines of the song is I'm heading in on a long wave, just about halfway to the shore.
26:12
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what it's about?
26:13
SPEAKER_02: Can you just about halfway to the shore?
26:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm 51.
26:16
SPEAKER_03: You're just getting started.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: Well I'm ha I'm halfway to the shore.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: Basically, this wave, this wave, this wave is about life.
26:24
SPEAKER_02: The the this wave is a wave, it's a certain and then it says, Cal, stop, baby.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: I've been caught inside.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: When you're when you're when you're caught inside on a wave, you you get, you know, when you're on the inside and the waves are smashing on your head, you gotta say, I'm just gonna stay calm right here.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of like life.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: When you when you're when you have challenges, you gotta just try to stay calm and everything.
26:44
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, this wave is about life.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm halfway to the shore.
26:48
SPEAKER_03: It's beautiful.
26:48
SPEAKER_02: Thank you very much.
26:49
SPEAKER_03: Callie, I have some questions for you.
26:51
SPEAKER_03: You wanna answer some questions?
26:53
SPEAKER_03: Did you like Daddy's song?
26:56
SPEAKER_03: And Daddy tells me that you like to sing and play instruments too.
27:02
SPEAKER_03: Do you?
27:03
SPEAKER_03: What do you like to play?
27:08
SPEAKER_03: Piano, and you like to play guitar?
27:18
SPEAKER_03: Oh my goodness.
27:19
SPEAKER_03: Can you help me say thank you to your dad for coming on my podcast?
27:25
SPEAKER_03: You ready?
27:25
SPEAKER_03: When I count to three, you're gonna say thank you, Dad.
27:28
SPEAKER_03: Ready?
27:28
SPEAKER_03: One, two, three.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: And Jay, can I ask you to just sign that token so we have a little memory of you being here with us today?
27:39
SPEAKER_02: Callie's gonna want this token, I think.
27:41
SPEAKER_03: We can give Callie a token to take home, but that one goes in the special jar.
27:46
SPEAKER_03: Is that cool?
27:48
SPEAKER_03: Callie, can you put that over?
27:50
SPEAKER_03: You can do it.
27:50
SPEAKER_03: You can just put it right there.
27:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm gonna give you your own token, don't worry.
27:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and this is for you, J.
27:57
SPEAKER_03: This is a hoodie.
27:59
SPEAKER_03: Just a little merch.
28:00
SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much for being on the panel.
28:04
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you can wear it too.
28:06
SPEAKER_03: And thank you, everybody, for tuning in to Laugh Love La.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: Until next time.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: But for now, this wave will carry me.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: One day this wave will crash.
28:21
SPEAKER_01: But for now, this wave will carry me.