Latest / The Grounded Show / Spurs/Knicks Game 1 Review/Predictions & Jay-Z's Roots Picnic Freestyle #151
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- 0:01Speaker 1: What it do? What it do?
- 0:02Speaker 2: Yeah, we went back again this show. You already know
- 0:07Speaker 2: the vibes, man, coming off of the kickback of the
- 0:11Speaker 2: most recent one. Man, it was it was rained out,
- 0:15Speaker 2: but we still was out there vibing.
- 0:16Speaker 3: Man, shout out to everybody came out.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Man.
- 0:19Speaker 3: We we were kind of a little weary that you know,
- 0:23Speaker 3: the rain was going to affect some of the crowd,
- 0:25Speaker 3: but everybody showed up. Man, they walked right through that rain.
- 0:28Speaker 1: It was packed. It was you seeing people pulling up
- 0:31Speaker 1: with the umbrellas.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Hey, that's the thing about the grown crowd, bro, They're
- 0:35Speaker 2: not gonna let nothing get in the way.
- 0:36Speaker 1: You playing something? You got that through the rain.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Her pizza box was soaked.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Yeah, still ate that facts, Man, I appreciate everybody pulling up.
- 0:44Speaker 3: It was a nice vibe getting better man. Yeah, these
- 0:47Speaker 3: kickbacks are getting really, really good. I think this one
- 0:50Speaker 3: at the end of the month, the summer kickback.
- 0:52Speaker 1: The summer one is gonna be fine. Excited.
- 0:54Speaker 3: I got to go the first.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Summer one because we're gonna have a couple more before
- 0:58Speaker 2: oh yeah before the summer ends. So the first time
- 1:01Speaker 2: and we think about doing some other stuff too. Man,
- 1:04Speaker 2: people literally been asking. Every time I go pull up
- 1:06Speaker 2: over there, they always telling me that they're like, man,
- 1:09Speaker 2: when you're gonna take another night, people come and ask, like, oh,
- 1:12Speaker 2: when you're gonna do more nights like that kickback. So
- 1:15Speaker 2: we're definitely scheming.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:17Speaker 3: We've only done three and it's growing, and it's growing
- 1:20Speaker 3: and we're getting more engagement of new people who want
- 1:24Speaker 3: to show up, new people who are interested. So we're
- 1:27Speaker 3: trying to grow it from here, think of new ideas
- 1:30Speaker 3: and you know, provide the vibe as much as we can.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Man, it's definitely been a dope thing to kind of
- 1:36Speaker 2: see grow. And it really does have that like grown
- 1:41Speaker 2: It's weird because it's like a grown house party kind
- 1:45Speaker 2: of you know what I mean. It has that vibe,
- 1:47Speaker 2: but at the same time, it doesn't have that like
- 1:49Speaker 2: house party vibe per se, like you know, you at
- 1:52Speaker 2: your friend's house and O six type of thing.
- 1:55Speaker 1: It just it just has that like cool atmosphere. You know,
- 1:58Speaker 1: the vibes are right, the mood is right. You you
- 2:00Speaker 1: were spending the hell out the ones and twos, you know.
- 2:04Speaker 3: I gotta do what to do. But yeah, I think
- 2:06Speaker 3: it's so spacious that each group having their own like
- 2:09Speaker 3: little party there. Yeah, it's not. You don't overhear anybody talking.
- 2:14Speaker 3: The energy from other people doesn't affect you. So whatever
- 2:16Speaker 3: area you're in with your little group, you could do.
- 2:19Speaker 3: You could, you know, enjoy how you want to enjoy it,
- 2:21Speaker 3: and the rest of the vibes on the effect you
- 2:23Speaker 3: now and make sure I'm bringing the tracks all.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Day facts man, speaking of bringing the tracks, brou New
- 2:31Speaker 2: York ran the train on the Spurs yesterday.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Dog.
- 2:34Speaker 2: They hit him with the blitz in the fourth quarter.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Spurs had a nice little comeback towards the end. They
- 2:40Speaker 2: kind of swung the game back around. I was super
- 2:43Speaker 2: hype with that. But man, that that boy bruntsing. I'm
- 2:46Speaker 2: very I'm a skeptic of Brunton, so I like Brunton.
- 2:52Speaker 2: I enjoy I enjoy him as a player. He got
- 2:54Speaker 2: a lot of hard He's a smart player and he
- 2:56Speaker 2: plays great Bro. But I'm the type of guy where
- 2:59Speaker 2: it's like history tells me at his size is gonna
- 3:02Speaker 2: be tough to keep it up the whole series and
- 3:04Speaker 2: to be as impactful as he usually is. Because with
- 3:08Speaker 2: a seven game series, BRO team gets to learn you,
- 3:11Speaker 2: They get to see your little habits and once once
- 3:14Speaker 2: on both sides, once both teams start locking in on
- 3:17Speaker 2: what they gotta do defensively, Bro, it gets tight and.
- 3:20Speaker 1: It gets a lot tougher. Yeah.
- 3:21Speaker 3: I think the best part of winning game one is
- 3:24Speaker 3: we got that, you know, the away game advantage. I
- 3:27Speaker 3: think the worst part of winning that game is we
- 3:30Speaker 3: lit a fire on this. You know, Wenby's not gonna
- 3:33Speaker 3: come in game two and play like he was.
- 3:36Speaker 2: He was talking after the game yesterday, real, real methodical.
- 3:41Speaker 2: I felt the way he was speaking, and you can tell,
- 3:45Speaker 2: like you're saying, Bro, you can tell they really It
- 3:47Speaker 2: really made him be like all right, all right, but
- 3:51Speaker 2: but nah, hats off to New York. Like I was
- 3:54Speaker 2: saying in the chat earlier, Man, I feel like the
- 3:56Speaker 2: big difference to me was McBride and Cat, those of
- 4:00Speaker 2: the two guys that I thought were gonna be the
- 4:02Speaker 2: weak points for New York.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And was gonna really hurt y'all.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Like I was just in my mind, like, yo, McBride
- 4:09Speaker 2: and Kat that they're just gonna kind of get.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Ate up with these lineups, you know what I mean.
- 4:14Speaker 2: But hats off to both of them, especially Cat. He
- 4:16Speaker 2: was aggressive the whole night. I really think watch the
- 4:21Speaker 2: next couple of games, Bro, they're gonna start calling that
- 4:24Speaker 2: hook he's doing with his off arm when he dribbles in.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Because this last game they started calling Wemby on the
- 4:29Speaker 2: pushes on the screens. And like I was saying in
- 4:32Speaker 2: the chat, they always like overcompensate either way, you know
- 4:36Speaker 2: what I mean exactly, They always have that situation, and
- 4:40Speaker 2: in the first couple of games, and then by the
- 4:43Speaker 2: time it kind of like settles usually in like five
- 4:46Speaker 2: six seven around there, the games are kind of like
- 4:49Speaker 2: more down the middle, not necessarily that they're calling the
- 4:52Speaker 2: games great, but they're calling them more consistently, you know
- 4:55Speaker 2: what I mean. And that's that's one thing that's been
- 4:58Speaker 2: a big talk point all season this year. I mean,
- 5:02Speaker 2: it's been building, but this year I feel like mad
- 5:05Speaker 2: players have been letting loose, just selling out on the refs.
- 5:08Speaker 2: They haven't even cared, They've just been taking the fines.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Like.
- 5:11Speaker 2: It definitely seems like it's a thing where the NBA
- 5:15Speaker 2: and the players are like, Bro, some something's going on
- 5:17Speaker 2: here and it needs to get fixed.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Yeah, they're definitely showing their frustrations. I think I think
- 5:23Speaker 3: the key, the key, the major keys to winning the
- 5:27Speaker 3: series is the defense. You know, we can't let the
- 5:30Speaker 3: Spurs get hot, you know, Champagne hardaway starts bringing them
- 5:34Speaker 3: threes and to rap for us.
- 5:37Speaker 2: I picked up a rookie autograph card of his out
- 5:40Speaker 2: of a dollar bend for two dollars. Bro like was
- 5:45Speaker 2: it was probably like when he wasn't even in the
- 5:46Speaker 2: rotation yet. It's just I'm a Spurs fan, you know
- 5:48Speaker 2: what I mean. So I'm like, oh, two dollars, Champagne,
- 5:51Speaker 2: I'm taking that.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Bro.
- 5:53Speaker 2: I'm like, just I thought he was gonna be straight.
- 5:56Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna be like a solid, like
- 5:59Speaker 2: if he gives you a wins a game, you happy.
- 6:01Speaker 1: But Bro's he's.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Been exploding dog like he's shooting. He's definitely taking that
- 6:06Speaker 2: like energy of like the classic Spurs shooter slash defender.
- 6:11Speaker 1: You know, like they have the same.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Kind of dynamic structure of the team that they did
- 6:18Speaker 3: with you know, Dunky Parker and every fact. They have
- 6:22Speaker 3: like the same tools that each player had on that
- 6:26Speaker 3: squad on this squad, So they definitely have Like I said,
- 6:30Speaker 3: I didn't say anything that last quarter until it was over.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we were.
- 6:34Speaker 2: We weren't even saying nothing in the chat like everybody
- 6:36Speaker 2: else was saying stuff, and it was like, bro, I
- 6:38Speaker 2: don't I don't talk during the game. I can't even
- 6:40Speaker 2: like lock in to talk sometimes because I'm like so
- 6:43Speaker 2: so wrapped up in the game, you know. But it
- 6:45Speaker 2: was it was a good game, and it was a
- 6:48Speaker 2: lot of It wasn't good in the sense of like
- 6:51Speaker 2: it was competitive because they I felt like it was
- 6:53Speaker 2: just a lot of swings, like big lead this way,
- 6:56Speaker 2: big lead that way, big lead this way, big lead
- 6:58Speaker 2: that way.
- 6:59Speaker 1: So it wasn't really like so much like a.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Skillful game because it was definitely ugly in the first half.
- 7:05Speaker 2: A lot of misshots, a lot of kind of desperation stuff.
- 7:09Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people were throwing up
- 7:10Speaker 2: on both teams, and they started settling it in that
- 7:13Speaker 2: fourth quarter. And I'm definitely curious to see this game too.
- 7:18Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a lot more polished.
- 7:20Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a little bit slower the pace.
- 7:24Speaker 2: I think the fact that New York had nine days off,
- 7:28Speaker 2: they came with a burst of energy that was and
- 7:32Speaker 2: now the travel is going to slow down for both teams,
- 7:35Speaker 2: so they're both going to be more arrested, more locked in. Man,
- 7:40Speaker 2: I feel like this might be a finals that we
- 7:44Speaker 2: see a couple of times, bro, Like, and it's crazy
- 7:47Speaker 2: because the last time the Knicks were in the finals,
- 7:50Speaker 2: it was against the Spurs.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Like, what are the chances that is the same thing
- 7:53Speaker 1: as for one? Yeah? Yeah that was that was the
- 7:57Speaker 1: lockout year.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:59Speaker 2: That that was when Timmy was just asserting himself because
- 8:04Speaker 2: he man, and that was like the kind of similar
- 8:07Speaker 2: situation of what's playing what's happening now with the Knicks,
- 8:10Speaker 2: a young surgeon guy with a lot of talent around him.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Uh.
- 8:14Speaker 2: But honestly, man, like, I don't I'm not like super
- 8:21Speaker 2: confident about the series because man, it could just go
- 8:26Speaker 2: either way with you lose one player or you know,
- 8:29Speaker 2: it's just anything.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Bro, anything In the first quarter, I was I was like,
- 8:33Speaker 3: no way.
- 8:34Speaker 2: He had a couple of scares, bro, that angle the
- 8:38Speaker 2: you know he went to the back one.
- 8:40Speaker 3: If he would have if he would have been out,
- 8:41Speaker 3: I would have turned the TV.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely got Ah got got a tough road
- 8:48Speaker 2: ahead of him, man, especially if he's banged up, Like
- 8:50Speaker 2: like we are kind of believing seeing how he was
- 8:53Speaker 2: reacting in this first game Bro.
- 8:57Speaker 1: But yeah, man, uh well, we'll get off that for now.
- 9:01Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we're gonna have a lot to talk
- 9:03Speaker 2: about with that in the coming week. We're gonna have
- 9:05Speaker 2: because I feel like it's gonna be a long series, bro.
- 9:07Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think it's definitely gonna go the distance.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:11Speaker 2: So I'm glad you reminded me before we started recording
- 9:14Speaker 2: the jay Z freestyle at the Roots Picnic.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Man, So that was.
- 9:22Speaker 2: That was something that I feel like kind of came
- 9:25Speaker 2: and went as far as like uh, chattering the hip
- 9:29Speaker 2: hop world, you know what I mean. I feel like
- 9:32Speaker 2: it's not gonna be something that disappears as far as
- 9:35Speaker 2: like the artist that he talked about, Like we're gonna
- 9:38Speaker 2: start hearing responses to this pretty soon, if not already,
- 9:42Speaker 2: Like in the subtle way.
- 9:44Speaker 3: Do you think Drake should respond?
- 9:46Speaker 2: I feel like Drake was fishing for it, so I
- 9:51Speaker 2: feel like he's gonna respond, you know what I mean,
- 9:53Speaker 2: Like it just kind of I mean, I feel like
- 9:58Speaker 2: he should have threw a few jobs at him on
- 9:59Speaker 2: it album, you know what I mean.
- 10:01Speaker 1: That that's gonna be an.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Interesting one, like the established og hip hop guy that
- 10:09Speaker 2: is like the essence of hip hop as far as
- 10:12Speaker 2: the fans are concerned against the new established guy that
- 10:17Speaker 2: is not like OG hip hop as far as the
- 10:20Speaker 2: fans are concerned. So it's like it's like a weird dynamic.
- 10:24Speaker 2: I would love to see it, bro I definitely would
- 10:26Speaker 2: love to see it.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:28Speaker 3: To me, it's like Drake just dropped three albums. He
- 10:32Speaker 3: broke the record for you know, the top one hundreds,
- 10:37Speaker 3: he broke the Spotify stream records again. He's at the
- 10:41Speaker 3: top right now, and I don't see an opportunity that
- 10:45Speaker 3: comes from retaliating and coming back at it, Like, what's
- 10:48Speaker 3: he gonna drop a freestyle? Like he has so much
- 10:50Speaker 3: music out there, is he's just gonna come out with
- 10:52Speaker 3: a freestyle and drop it at this time while everything's
- 10:55Speaker 3: so hot with the three albums he dropped. I just
- 10:57Speaker 3: don't see the point of why Drake needs to respect
- 11:00Speaker 3: and jay Z. Like I said, I still I still
- 11:02Speaker 3: put jay Z above Drake. So I'm a jay Z fan,
- 11:06Speaker 3: kind of mad to go to going against each other,
- 11:09Speaker 3: but I don't see a reason for it right now.
- 11:12Speaker 3: I think I think he just led a simmer and
- 11:15Speaker 3: it's all I think a hole is just promoting that
- 11:17Speaker 3: Yankee the Yankee Stadium.
- 11:19Speaker 1: You you think he do you think that's gonna be crazy?
- 11:21Speaker 2: Like, do you think he's gonna Like I feel like
- 11:24Speaker 2: he's gonna probably announce or debut some new music, maybe
- 11:29Speaker 2: have some crazy performances because I was even like I
- 11:33Speaker 2: was shocked to see the him Beas and Freeway like
- 11:36Speaker 2: them performing.
- 11:37Speaker 1: I never thought in my life I would see that again.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Broder concert like that. That was insane. Yeah, And that's
- 11:46Speaker 1: what I think.
- 11:46Speaker 3: He's gonna bring everybody out, man, He's gonna I think
- 11:49Speaker 3: he's gonna bring everybody who has featured Our Reasonable Doubt
- 11:53Speaker 3: and featured on the Blueprint. I think he's just gonna
- 11:57Speaker 3: bring everyone out that's on there, and I think it's
- 11:59Speaker 3: gonna be one of the best shows. I think he's
- 12:01Speaker 3: trying to do that because you know, Drake's gonna go
- 12:03Speaker 3: on tour, and I think he's trying to sell out
- 12:05Speaker 3: and so and show how he still reigns in the
- 12:08Speaker 3: in the concert realm.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm super interested to see what jay Z does next, man,
- 12:14Speaker 2: because it just that Freestyle was like super lofty to
- 12:20Speaker 2: just go back into hiding after this concert, you know
- 12:22Speaker 2: what I mean, Like.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Like you just popped out, dropped his freestyle and lid
- 12:26Speaker 1: you know.
- 12:26Speaker 3: And I think I think he's also proven how you know,
- 12:29Speaker 3: people talk about how Drake this is people without saying
- 12:32Speaker 3: their names, and he did it to except for Jaguar, right,
- 12:35Speaker 3: that was that was kind of I think that's the
- 12:37Speaker 3: only person herctly, but everybody else he just like Dame
- 12:41Speaker 3: dash And and Dreke.
- 12:44Speaker 1: He didn't mention him, but they were very direct.
- 12:46Speaker 3: This yeah, like spinning like it, spitning out your teeth
- 12:48Speaker 3: and the exactly.
- 12:49Speaker 2: I was like, you know, he's talking about you. It's
- 12:51Speaker 2: not like he was being around the bush.
- 12:53Speaker 3: Because Drake said the jig is up, and he said
- 12:56Speaker 3: he's used the same word is up. Yeah, so I
- 12:59Speaker 3: think he's still showing Hey, you remember remember who you
- 13:02Speaker 3: got this from? Bro, because he did it with nas
- 13:04Speaker 3: all the time.
- 13:05Speaker 2: And I remember the big uh not not controversy, but
- 13:10Speaker 2: I remember it was like an eyebrow raising moment when
- 13:13Speaker 2: Drake started to really really pop and Jay got him
- 13:17Speaker 2: on the album, but he only had him on the hook.
- 13:21Speaker 1: And I believe, if I remember.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Correctly, I believe Drake said that he did cut a
- 13:25Speaker 2: verse for that, but the verse was not kept on
- 13:28Speaker 2: the song. I might be wrong on that, but I
- 13:31Speaker 2: know for sure it was just the hook that he
- 13:33Speaker 2: ended up being on on the album.
- 13:35Speaker 1: People were super confused, like.
- 13:37Speaker 2: You're gonna have Drake on here and you're just gonna
- 13:39Speaker 2: have him do the hook, you know what I mean?
- 13:40Speaker 2: They even questioned him at the time.
- 13:41Speaker 3: Yeah, but Drake still put Jay on his albums after that.
- 13:45Speaker 2: But that's that's kind of what I was getting too,
- 13:47Speaker 2: Like I feel like Jay kind of always mentally one
- 13:53Speaker 2: ups yeah Drake, you know what I mean. Like I
- 13:55Speaker 2: think he's like he's methodical in that way where he's like,
- 13:59Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you on the our, but not a
- 14:00Speaker 2: verse and then he's gonna get on.
- 14:03Speaker 1: I mean, brother, what was it? Nothing was the same?
- 14:06Speaker 1: Light up? Ye Bro? That verse on light Up from
- 14:09Speaker 1: jay Z Dog.
- 14:10Speaker 2: That's like he really just I mean whoa Like that
- 14:14Speaker 2: was insane, bro, Drake.
- 14:15Speaker 3: He said it gonna come at you with silly rapus
- 14:18Speaker 3: trying to distract you.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Bro.
- 14:19Speaker 2: He went insane that whole verse from from top to bottom,
- 14:23Speaker 2: like the songwriting, the flow, just the wittedness, bro. Like
- 14:29Speaker 2: jay Z's one of those for me that I wasn't
- 14:32Speaker 2: like a huge fan in the beginning, but like the
- 14:35Speaker 2: second act of his career, I felt like he was
- 14:38Speaker 2: even nicer than you know what I mean, Like like
- 14:41Speaker 2: just as far as like how mature his flow got
- 14:43Speaker 2: and like the way he still like keeps it real,
- 14:47Speaker 2: but he's just so poetic and he got such a
- 14:50Speaker 2: like philosophizer type mind, you know what I mean that
- 14:54Speaker 2: he just like it just sounds so good, bro. Like
- 14:58Speaker 2: he for me, it's like Days is at that point
- 15:01Speaker 2: like where I mean, he's been at that point.
- 15:03Speaker 1: But it's the same as like Nas. You know, like
- 15:06Speaker 1: Nas is just.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Like he's telling you something, bro, And just the way
- 15:09Speaker 2: that he's the point that he's at already and the
- 15:11Speaker 2: way he puts the words together.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Is like bro, oh my god. Bro.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Like it's just that that's the part of hip hop
- 15:19Speaker 2: that I feel like a lot of people.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Miss.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Just as far as like what we were talking about
- 15:26Speaker 2: before that back in the day, all the rappers had
- 15:28Speaker 2: their own sound, but they were all rapping, you know
- 15:31Speaker 2: what I mean. Like you had Nelly with the Saint
- 15:34Speaker 2: Louis swag, you know what I mean. You had Jermaine
- 15:37Speaker 2: dupri and the artist he was pushing with the Atlanta sound.
- 15:40Speaker 2: You know, he had DMX from New York, you know,
- 15:43Speaker 2: red Man from Jersey, like each.
- 15:48Speaker 3: You know, Atlanta sound, the Midwest, Atlanta sound, the New
- 15:53Speaker 3: York sound. Yeah, it was different.
- 15:56Speaker 2: And that was just all like the same kind of
- 15:58Speaker 2: like trap vibes, you know what I mean. It's like
- 16:01Speaker 2: it's cool to a certain point, but at the same time, Bro,
- 16:05Speaker 2: at the end of the day, music is music.
- 16:06Speaker 1: Music is just supposed to be.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Dope original, Like that's why it catches you, hear, once
- 16:11Speaker 2: you start following that formula, like down to a t,
- 16:14Speaker 2: it's just hard for like the sound of be anything exciting,
- 16:17Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 16:18Speaker 3: That's why like artists really have to try to make it.
- 16:22Speaker 3: And we talked about you know, we talked about Wayne
- 16:24Speaker 3: all the time. Like you listen to Wayne and you
- 16:28Speaker 3: don't listen the way in the same way you listen
- 16:29Speaker 3: to them before. But with Jay and Nas, you listen
- 16:33Speaker 3: to them the same way you did when you first
- 16:35Speaker 3: listen to them, Like it's still that sound, yeah, bring
- 16:37Speaker 3: you know what I mean, They didn't switch up. It's
- 16:39Speaker 3: still that flow, it's still that type of content and
- 16:42Speaker 3: the lyrics. So I don't I don't think the fall
- 16:46Speaker 3: off ever happened for them, maybe mainstream fall off as
- 16:50Speaker 3: far as the audience reached and what they put out,
- 16:54Speaker 3: but their skill and their technique as an artist and
- 16:57Speaker 3: who they are we were, they're still the same people.
- 17:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:00Speaker 2: I feel like it also goes to like the intention
- 17:04Speaker 2: behind an artist going to the studio, Like so many
- 17:08Speaker 2: different artists think so many different ways when they're going
- 17:11Speaker 2: to the studio. Sometimes it's like, Yo, I need to
- 17:13Speaker 2: make another bag, like make some new music.
- 17:15Speaker 1: You know.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like, oh, I went through this situation. I
- 17:18Speaker 2: really want to talk about it, you know. Sometimes you know,
- 17:21Speaker 2: it's so many different reasons, and I feel like it
- 17:23Speaker 2: always shows in the music, you know what I mean,
- 17:26Speaker 2: Like the people that care about the music. The music
- 17:29Speaker 2: sounds like you care about it, you know what I mean.
- 17:32Speaker 2: That's like one thing I always talk about with people
- 17:36Speaker 2: is like when you go cheap on your music, it
- 17:39Speaker 2: sounds cheap, and like who is gonna want to listen
- 17:41Speaker 2: to something that sounds cheap, you know what I mean?
- 17:43Speaker 2: Like when you got people like Drake out here, you
- 17:46Speaker 2: got people like jay Z, you know what I mean,
- 17:49Speaker 2: Like doing the best music you've ever heard, and then
- 17:52Speaker 2: you're gonna come out here and spend thirty dollars and
- 17:54Speaker 2: think like you about to change the world.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Like that's what happened.
- 17:58Speaker 1: It needs the quality. He comes with a price, you
- 18:01Speaker 1: know what I mean.
- 18:02Speaker 2: That's and that's even why somebody like jay Z sounds
- 18:06Speaker 2: so epic when he's so locked in on these tracks
- 18:10Speaker 2: like the Light Up or whatever, like bro, like he
- 18:13Speaker 2: was in a million dollar studio recording this, you know
- 18:15Speaker 2: what I mean, like having like the best guy that's mixed,
- 18:19Speaker 2: you know, for the last twenty thirty years, like all
- 18:21Speaker 2: the top songs.
- 18:22Speaker 3: Like and it's funny he still always records on his
- 18:24Speaker 3: own sent you the verse. Yeah, he wants his own
- 18:28Speaker 3: energy in that studio.
- 18:30Speaker 2: And that's another thing too of like just knowing knowing
- 18:34Speaker 2: that the game and knowing how to navigate, and like
- 18:36Speaker 2: why he's at the point he's at because it's like
- 18:38Speaker 2: he's gonna sound how he sounds no matter what, you
- 18:41Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you're not you're not gonna
- 18:43Speaker 2: get him sounding like some bullshit on the song or something,
- 18:45Speaker 2: because he's gonna make sure of it, you know what
- 18:47Speaker 2: I mean.
- 18:48Speaker 1: And yeah, man, it's.
- 18:50Speaker 3: Gonna have Guru in there. That's the only engineer that's
- 18:52Speaker 3: touching his music yep.
- 18:53Speaker 2: And then it's it's a crazy thing about uh us
- 18:57Speaker 2: being in that era now where like the hip pop
- 19:00Speaker 2: old heads are able to release music and we don't
- 19:03Speaker 2: feel like it's like some old hand music, you know
- 19:05Speaker 2: what I mean. Like I remember thinking like rock Him
- 19:09Speaker 2: is going to drop some new music when I was
- 19:10Speaker 2: a little bit younger and being like, I mean, I'll
- 19:12Speaker 2: check it out, but I'm not expecting you know, the
- 19:14Speaker 2: same thing, like you know KRS one, you know, all
- 19:18Speaker 2: the Big Daddy came, like when all the old when
- 19:21Speaker 2: I was.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Already older that like they were already way older.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Like at that time, you weren't thinking like, oh I
- 19:27Speaker 2: want to hear new music out these people you know
- 19:30Speaker 2: out exactly bruh. But now it's like changed because the
- 19:34Speaker 2: rap is like kind of different than the landscape of
- 19:37Speaker 2: the music is a little different.
- 19:39Speaker 1: So like you connect, you.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Could realistically might be hearing some new jay Z at
- 19:45Speaker 2: sixty years old, like he's not far from him, bro,
- 19:47Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 19:48Speaker 3: And just like you know, I think about all the time,
- 19:50Speaker 3: like if the Locks were to drop an album today, yeah,
- 19:53Speaker 3: I'd be running and listen to that.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like it's one of those things where
- 19:59Speaker 2: if you're dope and you're just paying attention to the
- 20:02Speaker 2: quality of the music, it's gonna sound dope, you know
- 20:04Speaker 2: what I mean.
- 20:05Speaker 3: That's why a lot of artists don't drop music at this,
- 20:07Speaker 3: like when they're like older artists like that.
- 20:10Speaker 1: I think.
- 20:11Speaker 2: I think a lot of times you hear like it's
- 20:14Speaker 2: just the effort that goes behind it, like it's such
- 20:16Speaker 2: an endeavor and it's such a project, like from front to.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Back, and then you got a tour on the end
- 20:21Speaker 1: of it, you know what I mean.
- 20:22Speaker 2: So it's like a lot of older people they look
- 20:24Speaker 2: at that and they're like, man, that's two years in
- 20:26Speaker 2: my life that I don't want to spend right now,
- 20:28Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like somebody like a bad Bunny, Bro,
- 20:32Speaker 2: he's probably been like touring and just doing crazy stuff
- 20:35Speaker 2: for like the past like five six years in a row. Bro,
- 20:38Speaker 2: Like he's eventually just going to be like, Yo, I'm
- 20:41Speaker 2: gonna take this long break because he's been going and
- 20:44Speaker 2: going and going.
- 20:45Speaker 1: That's a grind, bro. That's like, that's or.
- 20:48Speaker 3: You could be working on another album right now.
- 20:51Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Like you just keep going, like you get off the
- 20:54Speaker 2: road to keep working on music, and it's like you're
- 20:56Speaker 2: going for so many years and you get to a
- 20:58Speaker 2: point like look at Rihanna, bro, like she she made
- 21:01Speaker 2: her bag in multiple things. Yeah, and she was like, bro,
- 21:06Speaker 2: nobody's going to force me to put out bro. She's
- 21:09Speaker 2: just chilling, chilling when when she feels like dropping the music,
- 21:12Speaker 2: she'll drop.
- 21:12Speaker 1: The music, you know what I mean.
- 21:15Speaker 3: Yeah, And one thing I noticed, like Drake says it
- 21:17Speaker 3: on this album, like a lot as far as the effort,
- 21:20Speaker 3: how long it takes. He said, I spent four hundred
- 21:22Speaker 3: days listening to the beats. That's how long he's been
- 21:25Speaker 3: working on this album. He's spent over a year just
- 21:27Speaker 3: listening to beats for these albums.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's somebody like Drake. It has to be
- 21:34Speaker 2: super exciting putting together a project, just because on top
- 21:38Speaker 2: of that, people are sending you their best stuff. So like,
- 21:41Speaker 2: not only are you in like a creative mode where
- 21:43Speaker 2: you're like, all right, I'm trying to create some dope stuff,
- 21:46Speaker 2: but the stuff you're getting is like all like Holy.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Grail type stuff, you know what I mean. And it's crazy.
- 21:52Speaker 2: I feel like That's even why a lot of times
- 21:54Speaker 2: you've been seeing a lot of these beat switches and
- 21:56Speaker 2: songs because it's like, bro, there's so many fire beats
- 22:00Speaker 2: that they just like, they love the beat and they
- 22:02Speaker 2: just want to include it on there somehow, you know
- 22:04Speaker 2: what I mean, Like she.
- 22:05Speaker 3: Bang when he says Niche on the beach, she bang.
- 22:07Speaker 3: I know my Niche was a producer and I looked
- 22:09Speaker 3: up their discography and they made some bangers.
- 22:13Speaker 2: And that's crazy. I didn't know that was a guy's
- 22:15Speaker 2: name either. So he just gave them the whole simate.
- 22:17Speaker 3: That's what I mean. I wonder he's been he was
- 22:19Speaker 3: saving that. He's got the one for you.
- 22:21Speaker 2: You know, he gaveltimate tag that that Niche is gonna
- 22:25Speaker 2: that's gonna be the tag from now.
- 22:27Speaker 1: You're get to hear that on every beat.
- 22:28Speaker 3: Manis on the beat Bang.
- 22:31Speaker 2: It's like the the London on the track man beef Man,
- 22:38Speaker 2: like those those tags like that.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Man tags are big. You know, it's funny. I was
- 22:42Speaker 3: watching it was watching stupid show pop culture Jeopardy, and
- 22:46Speaker 3: they have producer tags and you know a Pierre come out,
- 22:50Speaker 3: come outside, you know where that's from Jamie Fox Show. Oh, yeah, yeah,
- 22:55Speaker 3: when he was a waiter and then they're like, oh,
- 22:57Speaker 3: this is not French. He's like he's like, yeah, my
- 23:00Speaker 3: chef Pierre made it, and he else in the case.
- 23:02Speaker 3: He's like, hey, yeah, come outside. I didn't know that.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Yeah, he used that tag because his name is Pierre.
- 23:08Speaker 1: That's funny, man.
- 23:09Speaker 2: The tag stories are always funny, Like they always ask
- 23:12Speaker 2: like producers and interviews and stuff. And then just like,
- 23:15Speaker 2: for example, the don Cannon cannon that's from Madden when
- 23:21Speaker 2: they're talking about Gannon the quarterback. It's just the way
- 23:24Speaker 2: Buddy says it. It sounds like cannon, damn. And then
- 23:28Speaker 2: they turned he turned that into the cannon. Like yeah,
- 23:32Speaker 2: that one was crazy, Like you took freaking Gannon from
- 23:36Speaker 2: Madden and turned it into cannon and that's your tag now.
- 23:39Speaker 3: Like shout shout out to unk. I really like his tag.
- 23:41Speaker 1: Yeah he got the click clack on clickla ash me
- 23:45Speaker 1: out that. It's funny. Bro.
- 23:47Speaker 2: When when I first heard that, I'm so like, uh,
- 23:51Speaker 2: like just an old man. In my mind, I thought
- 23:54Speaker 2: he was saying cats me out and I thought it
- 23:58Speaker 2: was like you know what I mean like that, And
- 24:00Speaker 2: when I told that he was cracking like, bro, this
- 24:03Speaker 2: is that it was.
- 24:03Speaker 3: You at first and then I found out I was kick, Like, yeah, I.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Think he when I first started working with him.
- 24:09Speaker 2: I think he just got that tag he got he
- 24:13Speaker 2: got a nice little classic tag.
- 24:15Speaker 3: Also, that's why because you never know what song is
- 24:18Speaker 3: going to become huge, and the producer rarely gets that
- 24:21Speaker 3: type of credit all the time. It's not announce an artist.
- 24:24Speaker 3: It always now is a producer. But if your tag
- 24:26Speaker 3: is in the beginning there, everybody's you made it, and
- 24:29Speaker 3: then are the other artists are going to be like hey, DANMG,
- 24:31Speaker 3: you made that?
- 24:32Speaker 1: Be like that yeah. Fact.
- 24:34Speaker 2: I feel like it's also like where the like where
- 24:36Speaker 2: your relationship is with the producer, like if you depending
- 24:40Speaker 2: on how you you know, putting the music out or
- 24:43Speaker 2: how y'all work together.
- 24:44Speaker 1: It's like like.
- 24:47Speaker 2: Even some people don't like to give like credit on
- 24:50Speaker 2: certain songs, Like they'll even just pay people out and
- 24:52Speaker 2: be like yo, just I'll pay you out. We can
- 24:54Speaker 2: make some other kind of deal so that you're not.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Like officially listed on the credit.
- 24:59Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's I want to say, weird,
- 25:03Speaker 2: but like interesting how people work their music.
- 25:06Speaker 1: And like the like the lore around it you know
- 25:10Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 25:12Speaker 3: Yeah, what's aos? Yes, it's it's the whole Yeah that.
- 25:21Speaker 2: Him, me and uh Aaron Gordon made a couple of
- 25:23Speaker 2: dope songs, yeah, man, a couple of.
- 25:26Speaker 3: Bangers, bro, and he's the Orlando Magic theme song.
- 25:29Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, play the song. Yeah, it's funny. Man.
- 25:32Speaker 2: Though, one of the Magic DJs works at his studios,
- 25:36Speaker 2: so he'd.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Be and they're right there downtown, you know what I mean.
- 25:40Speaker 2: So like he's about to go DJ the game real
- 25:42Speaker 2: crazy there in five minutes, you know what I mean.
- 25:44Speaker 2: It must be dope as hell. But yeah, man, speaking
- 25:47Speaker 2: of the Magic Bro, let's see what happens.
- 25:49Speaker 3: Man, Any guys the Spurs assistant head coach.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah, that was a disappointing into the season
- 25:55Speaker 2: for them.
- 25:56Speaker 3: So did you see my question yesterday with Sean Lewis,
- 25:58Speaker 3: assistant coach on the Spurs.
- 26:00Speaker 1: He just some dude looks like, oh, I don't know,
- 26:02Speaker 1: I don't know if.
- 26:02Speaker 3: There's some dude on the bench that looked like with
- 26:04Speaker 3: Shade Lewis, I know, I'm.
- 26:05Speaker 1: About to look it up right now. I didn't even notice.
- 26:09Speaker 3: Or you think that's gonna affect the Spurs losing the
- 26:11Speaker 3: coach like that.
- 26:13Speaker 1: I feel like it always does.
- 26:15Speaker 2: But they have a very good system in place, so
- 26:18Speaker 2: they're very plug and play.
- 26:19Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 26:21Speaker 3: He's even where he needs to leave there when he goes. Yeah,
- 26:26Speaker 3: and then I saw he has ties to like the
- 26:28Speaker 3: Bucks and Giannis in his early years and now like
- 26:31Speaker 3: that's why they said the Magic have a chance to
- 26:34Speaker 3: make a run for him and you know, increase the
- 26:36Speaker 3: interest of him the Magic at Gianni's brou I'm going
- 26:39Speaker 3: to the games.
- 26:40Speaker 2: Bro, I seen, Uh, yeah, for sure. I'm a big
- 26:43Speaker 2: I'm a big Yiannis fan. I feel like his stock
- 26:47Speaker 2: has gone down for whatever, I don't know what, Like Bro,
- 26:50Speaker 2: y'all see his work ethics, Like, you know, he's not
- 26:52Speaker 2: gonna fall off, Like I don't know anyway that would
- 26:55Speaker 2: be dope, But man, I seen him tick will kind
- 26:58Speaker 2: of end with this bro. I've seen on TikTok this
- 27:00Speaker 2: video of this dude just basically saying right after the
- 27:06Speaker 2: Spurs and Okac series ended, he was like, now, imagine
- 27:11Speaker 2: if Shake Gilders Alexander just went to the Spurs next year.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Imagine how crazy that would be. Yeah, that would be crazy.
- 27:20Speaker 3: No one's ever done that before.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Bro.
- 27:22Speaker 2: When he said it like that, man, it just reignited
- 27:26Speaker 2: that feeling of like, damn, bro, I can't believe KDD, but.
- 27:29Speaker 3: This though, but this SGA got one, He got one.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Yeah, it would definitely be he never had one, It
- 27:37Speaker 1: would definitely.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Be different, but it wouldn't be the same. It wouldn't
- 27:41Speaker 2: be the same. You're you're right, You're right for sure,
- 27:43Speaker 2: But just the idea of it, like dang, like I'm
- 27:48Speaker 2: the best player on a team that should that could
- 27:50Speaker 2: have won, should have won, and I'm gonna go to
- 27:54Speaker 2: the other team.
- 27:55Speaker 3: And that's why I think with KD he couldn't get
- 27:57Speaker 3: to the finals because of them. I think with SGA
- 28:01Speaker 3: is he knows he's never going to get to the
- 28:02Speaker 3: finals again because of them.
- 28:04Speaker 1: You know that's true. I don't even think about that.
- 28:07Speaker 2: It's not really like Apple saples, but the idea of
- 28:10Speaker 2: like a player that good just switching sides, like it's
- 28:13Speaker 2: just like I said, it reignited that out ahead of
- 28:16Speaker 2: like damn bro, KD really went.
- 28:17Speaker 1: To the Warriors. Bro. Yeah, that was insane.
- 28:21Speaker 2: I remember that was like a dark time for me
- 28:23Speaker 2: as a fan, BRO, because I was like, that's it,
- 28:25Speaker 2: They're gonna win unless unless.
- 28:28Speaker 3: But I hated it.
- 28:30Speaker 2: I mean it was it was O D. I mean
- 28:33Speaker 2: it was really just O D. Dog Like it didn't
- 28:36Speaker 2: make any Suman Devil's advocate, Like can we blame him?
- 28:41Speaker 2: Like he he he completed and created like the best
- 28:46Speaker 2: team you ever saw, Like you know what I mean,
- 28:48Speaker 2: Like it was just like you knew nobody had a
- 28:50Speaker 2: chance like they had, like a Big four. I've never
- 28:53Speaker 2: I've never felt that way.
- 28:55Speaker 3: Like Andrea Big five.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, it was like even even the heat when
- 29:00Speaker 2: Lebron went over there, like damn, that's crazy.
- 29:02Speaker 1: They lost that first year, you know what I mean,
- 29:04Speaker 1: it wasn't but when the.
- 29:07Speaker 2: When that team came together, dog, it was like that's it, bro.
- 29:10Speaker 2: It literally it literally came down to a disastrous playoff
- 29:15Speaker 2: run where everybody got hurt from them to finally lose
- 29:18Speaker 2: and break up.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Bro, that was the same.
- 29:22Speaker 3: That was the time.
- 29:23Speaker 1: That was a time.
- 29:24Speaker 2: I'm glad it's gone lowkey, well not even low key highkey, man.
- 29:28Speaker 2: They even they even the way the NFL, I mean
- 29:32Speaker 2: the NBA Players Association agreement just kicked in in the
- 29:35Speaker 2: last few years. Like that's why all the teams are different,
- 29:40Speaker 2: that's why there hasn't been a repeat champion in eight years.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Like they they really was like, nah, bro, we're not
- 29:46Speaker 2: gonna let all these super teams come together no more.
- 29:49Speaker 2: We really gonna even this out, bro. And it's been working.
- 29:52Speaker 2: I definitely can't say that it's been It's been a
- 29:54Speaker 2: bad change, bro, because Spurs wouldn't be in the finals
- 29:58Speaker 2: right now and the Knicks wouldn't be in the finals
- 30:00Speaker 2: right now if they were still letting the teams do
- 30:02Speaker 2: what they was doing before.
- 30:04Speaker 1: So I'm definitely happy about it.
- 30:06Speaker 3: Before we go. Game two predictions.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Game two predictions, I think, uh, I'm gonna give you
- 30:13Speaker 2: my series prediction.
- 30:14Speaker 3: No, no, no, just game. Let me just game.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's give it like that, all right.
- 30:20Speaker 2: Game two, I feel like the Spurs are gonna win.
- 30:23Speaker 2: I feel like Wenby's gonna play a lot better, and
- 30:27Speaker 2: that's gonna be basically the difference, because I feel like
- 30:30Speaker 2: a lot of the players did play well. He was
- 30:33Speaker 2: the one that was really bad in the in the
- 30:35Speaker 2: first half as far as a field goal percentage goes,
- 30:37Speaker 2: just not being all there. He lost the ball at
- 30:40Speaker 2: the end of the game. So I feel like he's
- 30:42Speaker 2: gonna come out and be on some different stuff, and
- 30:44Speaker 2: I feel like he's gonna have one of those type
- 30:46Speaker 2: of games like he did the OKC Game one.
- 30:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you know, Spurs, what's the coach's name
- 30:55Speaker 3: out is Mitch Mitch Johnson, Yeah, Miss john I think
- 30:58Speaker 3: I think he's a great coach. I think he's sees
- 31:01Speaker 3: what Kat was doing, Mitchell Robinson boxing OLMB whenever Brunson
- 31:05Speaker 3: took it to took it to the whole.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Richard Jefferson.
- 31:09Speaker 2: He called that out perfectly, the way he was sealing
- 31:11Speaker 2: winby bro he was doing his thing.
- 31:13Speaker 3: Man, I think they're gonna find ways around that. I
- 31:16Speaker 3: think that they're smart, they're young, they have the energy.
- 31:19Speaker 3: I was watching. My pops was watching My pops was
- 31:21Speaker 3: really watching basketball, but he texted Me's like I'm watching
- 31:24Speaker 3: the game and he's like, Yo, the Spurs are young
- 31:26Speaker 3: that it has so much more energy. I think they're
- 31:30Speaker 3: gonna show that energy. They're going to show that coaching
- 31:33Speaker 3: staff and how they adjust. You know, I'm going for
- 31:39Speaker 3: the Knicks, but it's gonna be I think it's gonna
- 31:41Speaker 3: be harder to win than Game one was.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Yeah, fact, it's gonna be a tough series.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Bro.
- 31:45Speaker 1: I never.
- 31:47Speaker 2: I definitely was excited about the Spurs getting past OKC,
- 31:52Speaker 2: and I definitely felt like that was a crazy test
- 31:54Speaker 2: for them just as far as like getting over that hump.
- 31:57Speaker 1: But at the same time, Jalen Williams was so it was.
- 32:01Speaker 2: Like, you ain't really get their second best player was hurt,
- 32:06Speaker 2: like so it's like you can't really really really gauge it.
- 32:10Speaker 2: So they gotta dig deep and and do something else
- 32:13Speaker 2: this series. Because the Knicks are all there, Bro, you
- 32:16Speaker 2: know what I'm saying that nobody's nobody's I mean, you know,
- 32:19Speaker 2: you got Robinson with the pinky, but aside from that,
- 32:22Speaker 2: I mean, he looked like he was playing fine.
- 32:24Speaker 1: So it's like they got their whole team. So now
- 32:27Speaker 1: they need to.
- 32:28Speaker 3: Come They're gonna have to play at one hundred every
- 32:31Speaker 3: single name, and that's not that's not gonna lie.
- 32:33Speaker 2: That's definitely been That was definitely something that I noticed.
- 32:36Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, that this pace that they're playing at
- 32:39Speaker 2: is gonna be tough to keep up. Definitely gonna be tough.
- 32:41Speaker 1: Especially like your dad said, against that youth.
- 32:43Speaker 2: He's gonna be tough, bro, But it's gonna be a
- 32:46Speaker 2: good series, Man series you already know, though, Stay Better
- 33:01Speaker 3: Two